May 03, 2021 Planning Commission

WE NOTIFICATION IN PUBLISHED.

I'VE SEEN IT.

HAVE TWO MINUTES TO APPROVE BEFORE WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S APRIL 5TH AND THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 20TH IS ANYBODY LET'S DO THE APRIL 5TH FIRST.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS FROM THOSE MINUTES HEARING NONE.

I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT WE APPROVED THE APRIL.

ALL RIGHT, SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY, SO APPROVED MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 20TH WORKSHOP, ANY REVISIONS COMMENTS, ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, SIR, I WASN'T THERE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATED ALL THE COMMENTS AND THE TIME EVERYBODY TOOK AND I READ EVERY WORD.

IT WAS A LIVELY DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE, NO CORRECTIONS ADDITIONS, DELETIONS.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 20TH WORKSHOP SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT MOTION ASHES, THE MINISTER ALSO APPROVED FOR APRIL 20TH.

WE'VE GOT TWO ISSUES, UH, IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.

UM,

[5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER XCENDA ITEMS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADD? OKAY.

[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS]

UM, ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO THE TWO TOPICS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? SO JUST IN COMMENTS, NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, SIR, WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

WE ALLOW GENERALLY ABOUT THREE MINUTES FOR COMMENTS.

SO MY NAME'S STEVE ANDREWS AND WHERE A LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING ON FARM.

AND I'LL BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT, BUT I HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE CURRENT TEXT AMENDMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING FOR THE RV PARKS AND CAMP GROUND.

AND SO ONE TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST AND WE'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND OFFER COMMENTS, UH, HAVE SUBMITTED AN EMAIL TO THE CHAIRMAN, EXPRESSING WHAT OUR INTEREST IS.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WHAT I NEED TO DO TO BE HEARD BY THIS CURRICULAR OFFICIALLY, AND THEN IF Y'ALL CAN OFFER ANY TIMING, I KNOW IT'S BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHEN IT'S GOING TO COME FOR YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, WE MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERED THOSE CAMPGROUND AMENDMENTS, UM, WE WOULD DO IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

SINCE WE HAVE JUST ENTERED BACK INTO A FOUR PUBLIC FORMAT, WE'LL BE SCHEDULED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

HAVE YOU SCHEDULED CAMP COUNT AMENDMENTS? UM, NO WE HAVEN'T.

I MEAN THAT IT'S STILL AN OPTION TO PUT IT ON THE JUNE AGENDA.

I WILL SAY THAT THAT'S BECOMING A VERY LONG AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND APPEAL AND SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES ON THAT AGENDA.

WELL, W W WE DO NOTE THAT YOU HAVE AN INTEREST YOU'RE AN INTERESTED PARTY AND YOU CERTAINLY WILL GET AN INVITE TO THE MEETING WHEN WE HAVE IT FOR A CAMPGROUND AMENDMENTS.

BUT WHEN LIKE, WELL, AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT MAKING A COMMITMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA IN JUNE, UH, IF NOT, MOST LIKELY WOULD FOLLOW IN JULY.

SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE INFORMATION.

RIGHT INTO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, NORTHERN BUFORD COUNTY ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT REZONING REQUEST FOR 5.23 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOE FRAZIER ROAD.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO THE TWO TOPICS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? OKAY.

IF NOT, LET'S JUMP

[7. Northern Beaufort County Zoning Map Amendment/Rezoning Request for 5.23 acres (R100 027 000 042B 0000) approximately 80 feet east of the intersection of Joe Frazier Road and Adams Way from T2 Rural to T2 Rural Center; Applicant: Billy Jay and Frank O. Plair Family Trust]

AND ADAM'S

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WAY FROM T2 RURAL TO T TO RURAL CENTER.

UM, ROB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? OKAY, WELL, I'M JUST GETTING A HANDOVER, UH, NO KREBS.

UH, HE DID THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS PROJECT AND SAW THAT.

CAN THEY READ THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE THE, HANG ON A SECOND? UM, SAY AGAIN, THE PUBLIC, CAN'T SEE THE, OH, ACTUALLY, CAN YOU PUT THERE? YEAH.

CAN YOU PUT THAT UP? NO, PLEASE.

YOU CAN SWITCH SIDES.

THANKS MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, SO THIS IS, UM, A FIVE AND ABOUT A QUARTER ACRE LOT.

UM, AT THREE 35 JOE FRAZIER ROAD CURRENTLY ZONED TEACHING, HE APPLICANT IS HOPING FOR A TGRC ZONING.

UM, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ZONED TO, TO RURAL CENTER OR INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, UM, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE IN 2014.

UM, CURRENTLY THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS WAY OR HOUSING.

UM, SPECIFICALLY IT'S A MOVING AND STORAGE COMPANY AND THERE ARE, UM, THERE'S TRUCKING AND TRUCK SCALES AS WELL.

UM, THAT'S BEEN OPERATING THERE SINCE 1994.

SO IN 1999, WHEN THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, IT WAS INDICATED AS, UM, TRANSITIONAL OVERLAY, WHICH WAS KIND OF THIS AREA BETWEEN RURAL AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS TIME AND OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT CLOSER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY WOULD MATCH FOR IT.

UM, THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE, UM, UNDER THAT ORDINANCE.

AND, UM, WE STAFF WASN'T ENTIRELY SURE OF THE SPECIFICS AND MAYBE ROB HAD BROUGHT ROBIN, MIGHT'VE HAD SOME INSIGHT TO THAT, UM, THAT I DIDN'T GET TO ADDRESS WITH HIM, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S A GAP THERE WHERE WE GOT TO A T2 RURAL ZONING FOR THIS SITE.

UM, BUT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT, UM, CONFORMING TO THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

SO CURRENTLY IT'S ILLEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT SAID ANYTHING THAT IF THE APPLICANT WHO IS, UM, WISHING TO SELL THE PROPERTY, IF THEY WERE TO SELL THAT USE WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE BY THE NEW OWNERS, UM, TO STAY IN CONFORMITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH A VEHICLE REPAIR COMPANY, WHICH THEY'VE KIND OF TAKEN OFF THE TABLE NOW THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF SOME CONDITIONAL STATES WITH THAT TYPE OF USE IN TGRC.

UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS T2 RURAL CENTER.

THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE CONDITIONS, NO MATTER WHAT THE USE IS THERE.

UM, AND SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH STAFF, ONE BEING THERE, OUR RESIDENTS IS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE THERE.

UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT REIN IN SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD COME WITH A T2 RC ZONING AS FAR AS NOISE, OUR ODOR, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT, SORRY, INTENSE USERS NEED TO BE A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, 200 FEET AWAY FROM A RESIDENCE WE'LL USE.

UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, IT IS A SPOT ZONING.

UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE RECENTLY AS WELL.

UM, THE LIGHT GREEN THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS T2 ROLL, ROLL, THE DARK GREEN, UM, FARTHER TO THE EAST ON THE MAP IS T2 RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE VERY RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND T2 ROLL CENTER, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS MORE FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES, UM, IN THAT SETTING DISTRICT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SPOT ZONING AND A FEW CONCERNS, UM, AS FAR AS POTENTIAL NOISE AND ODOR, UM, JUST GENERAL AESTHETICS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY, UM, STAFF, WASN'T ABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU.

SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, MR. CRABS.

SO THE, UM, THE FIVE AND A QUARTER ACRE IS ANY PLAN IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, CORRECT.

BUT IT'S RAW.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE COULD STILL BE A RURAL FEEL IF IT'S RURAL WAS RURAL IN THE SENSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OR FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE COULD STILL BE A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL, UM, CHARACTER WISE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR SOMEONE'S LATER

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RETAIL AND SERVICE USES.

UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO READ THAT HERE'S THE PROXIMITY.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THE RED OUTLINE PROPERTY, UM, EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF IT, UM, IS RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND DIRECTLY SOUTH, OR I'M SORRY, DRY DIRECTLY WEST IS, UM, THE AVERAGE HAMPTON ROAD AND DIRECTLY NORTH IS, UM, BURTON WILL'S PARK.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT FIELD AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL A RURAL CHARACTER IN THIS AREA, BUT IT ISN'T, THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S PARK.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE MARKET AREA OF HABERSHAM, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF WOULDN'T.

I ASKED THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IT, IT, IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT, TO ALLOW THAT KIND OF INTENSE USE TO HAPPEN IN THE SPOT, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT'LL, UM, LIMIT THE USES IN T2 RC, BUT IN THE END THERE ARE THERE, THERE, THERE IS THE CAPABILITY THERE TO, UM, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INTENSE USE THAN IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, I THINK I'VE GOT MY NORTH AND SOUTH THAT THE LAND DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF IT AND SOUTH THAT'S UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, IS THAT PART OF HABERSHAM.

CHERRY FARMS, ALL OF THAT, THAT I'M SEEING THERE.

AND, UM, ONE, ONE OTHER QUESTION WITH THE, IF THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO CHANGE THE ZONING, IS THERE A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COULD BE USED ON THAT SAME PIECE OF LAND SINCE IT ALREADY IS THAT USE NOW COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT LIKE INDUSTRIAL? UM, NO, I'M NOT POSITIVE ABOUT THAT, ROB, IF YOU KNOW HOW THAT SPLIT, UH, BECAUSE THE BACK, THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS TWO MOBILE HOMES.

UM, AND THERE ARE THREE STRUCTURES I BELIEVE FOR THE MOVING COMPANY CURRENTLY ON THE ONE PROPERTY.

UM, SO THE IT'S ABOUT THE PROPERTY HAS ABOUT AS MUCH BULK ON IT AS YOU COULD GET.

UH, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S A LIMITATION AND I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S 10,000 FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOOTAGE LIMITATION FOR THE SIZE OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE OF THAT DINA, HOW MUCH THIS THERE NOW OVER THAT SLIGHTLY NOT MUCH DID WANT TO SPEAK, SO THEY COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ONCE WE'RE DONE.

I JUST CLARIFY, CLARIFY YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT.

YOU SAID THE PROPERTY'S UP FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, CORRECT.

UM, AND THE, THE FACILITY IS NOT IN USE AS CLOSED.

I THINK IT'S THE CONTINUED USE OF, UM, THE FACILITY, THE BUILDING, THE WAREHOUSES, THEY SEEM TO BE SHUTTERED.

OH, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE BEING DISCONTINUED.

IS IT THE PROPERTY OVER THE WEEKEND? AND IT APPEARED TO BE SHUTTERED TO ME, PRETTY GOOD.

PRETTY MUCH CLOSED DOWN.

UM, SO IF, IF WE DO NOTHING, THE PROPERTY REVERTS TO T TO RURAL, CORRECT, NOW THERE IS.

AND IF WE, AND IF WE, IF WE APPROVE THE REQUEST, UH, THAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S STILL A WINDOW OF TIME, UM, FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WHICH WILL BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AS TO IF, IF THE NON-CONFORMING USE WAS DISCONTINUED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN CERTAINLY, I THINK THE POINT IS A ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR.

SO IF WITHIN ONE YEAR THAT USES RE CONTINUED, UM, IT WILL STILL BE GRANDFATHERED.

IT WAS, UM, IN 1994, IT'S BEEN AN OPERATE.

IT WAS AN OPERATION, CORRECT.

NICOLE CAME IN 1998, THE LAND USE MAP 1999.

SO IT'S BEEN A NON-CONFORMING FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU, NOAH.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT FOR SURE.

YES, SIR.

COME ON UP, IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

I'M SURE YOU'RE THERE FRANK OR BILLY.

AND TO REITERATE, I KNOW IF YOU WENT BY, IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE'RE SHUT DOWN, BUT WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY STILL HAVING CONTRACT WITH THE MILITARY AS FAR AS A LOCAL MOVE THAT WE HAVE TO PERFORM IF, IF IT'S NEEDED.

UM, BUT OUR BIGGEST THING IS YES, IT

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IS FOR SAFETY AND YEAH.

RIGHT.

CURRENT IT'S T2 ARE UNDER THE COUNTY RIGS DEFINITIONS.

WE'RE NOT LISTED THERE.

WE HAVE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE.

IT'S 30 FOOT TALL.

WE HAVE A 1600 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE, SAME SIZE.

AND WE HAVE A 2,400 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE, ALL THAT JUST SITS ON THE FRONT.

UM, THE 600 AND HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 94, WE WERE ALLOWED TO PUT THE 1600 IN 2005, WE WERE ALLOWED TO PUT THE 2,400 IN 2007.

AND, UM, BUT WHEN YOU WE'RE REQUESTING A T TWO RC, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO INTO THE COUNTY CODES AND ZONING UNDER T TWO, RC, IT WAREHOUSING IS LIST.

WAREHOUSING IS NOT LISTED UNDER T2, OR IF YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION COMING INTO US AND, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.

BUT WHEN THEY GO LOOKING AT THE ZONING, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW? BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER T2, BUT IT IS UNDER T2 RC UNDER, UH, WAREHOUSING, WHICH UNDER WAREHOUSING THE COUNTY EXACT WORDS OR A FACILITY FOR THE STORAGE OR FURNITURE, HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL GOODS OF ANY NATURE.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN 99 OR 2014.

WE WERE NEVER AWARE THAT WE WEREN'T ZONED IN SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO.

AND THEN TWO AND T2 ARE, THERE IS NO WAREHOUSE.

THERE IS NO STORAGE OF WAREHOUSE OF FURNITURE AND, UM, BOTTOM LINE.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, I MEAN, WE WE'VE BEEN A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

WE'VE WE PAID COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES, BUT NOW WE'RE NOT BEING AND ALLOWED TO MARKET IT.

AND I KNOW THERE IS REGULATIONS.

I MEAN, WE HAD A BAR.

WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE, WE HAVE, AND THIS IS WHERE THIS ALL STARTED IS BECAUSE I CAME DOWN HERE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE ZONED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT CAN TAKE PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WANTED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY WAS A BODY REPAIR PAINT SHOP.

WELL, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, NOAH AND HILLARY, WE ALL THREE GOT TOGETHER.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS OFF THE TABLE THAT DAY BEFORE WE, BEFORE THE APPLICATION WAS EVER OUT.

SO I KNOW IT'S BROUGHT UP IN THIS LETTER A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT KIND OF BUSINESS CAN NOT TAKE PLACE ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BROADEN THE SALE TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONFORM TO CERTAIN REGULATIONS SET OUT BY THE COUNTY, BUT IT JUST OPENS THE DOOR FOR ANOTHER MOVING AND STORAGE COMPANY TO COME IN THERE.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD COMMENTS FROM ANOTHER MOVE IN THE STORE.

IT'S GOTTEN NEW THAT LOOKED UP THE ZONING AND SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU GET THE ZONING, CORRECT, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED.

SO, OKAY.

AND SO WOULD THAT, UM, PERSPECTIVE, UM, MOVING COMPANY ONLY BE, UM, PCA TYPE MOVES, NO PCS.

THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD DO THE SAME THING WE DID.

I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE ANYBODY ANYWHERE ON THE WORLD AND, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT NOISE AND ALL THAT.

I MEAN, WE HAD 18 WHEELERS IN THERE EVERY DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THE RESIDENTS AND WE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THERE.

WE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT FROM ANY RESIDENTS ABOUT OUR NOISE, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT WE DID AND GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE W WE'RE JUST, WE'RE BEING HANDCUFFED.

IF WE CAN'T GET THIS THING CHANGED.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO LOOK FOR A PARTICULAR BUYER TO COME IN THERE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO DO.

BURGESS NOW, BUT ANY, ANY CHANGE? WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF THE BODY AND PAINT SHOP SAID, OKAY, WELL, I'M KIND OF COME IN AND THEY HAVE THE ZONING AND THEY PURCHASED THE PLACE AND THEN THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN'T, THAT WOULD BE THERE.

OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, YOU INDICATED EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT EXPAND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, OTHER TYPES OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT OTHER TYPES OF BUYERS POTENTIALLY, UM, WITH THIS EXPANDED ZONING.

UM, DO WE HAVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY THE ZONING DIRECTOR IN ADVANCE OF A PURCHASE

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THAT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE BUYER, TO THE INSURANCE.

SO THEY DO HAVE TO COME TO THE ZONING.

TYPICALLY TRIGGERED BY A BUSINESS LICENSE AND THEN BUSINESS LICENSE REQUIRES THEM TO GET A ZONING PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THAT'S OKAY.

AND YEAH, AND, AND THE, UH, T2 ARE RURAL IS THERE'S A LARGER LATITUDE THAT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE LAND USE MAPS.

CAN TEACH YOU RURAL SENSOR YES.

I MEAN, THAT DISTRICT ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, QUITE A DIVERSE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RETAIL, UM, OFFICE, UM, LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON THE SIZE, BUT THERE'S QUITE A BROAD ARRAY OF USES ALLOWED THAT DISTRICT, BUT STILL SOME REGULATIONS THAT HAVE TO CONFORM.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, FOR AN AUTOBODY SHOP THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S 250 FEET.

AND THAT JUST THROW HIM OUT OF THE WHIP THAT, THROUGH THAT TOOK THAT OFF THE TABLE REAL QUICK.

CAUSE WE'RE NOT 250 FEET FROM THE PEOPLE ON OUR LEFT.

WELL, I, I NOTICED THAT THERE IS A THIN FENCE BETWEEN YOUR FACILITIES AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON ADAMANT ON ADAMS. RIGHT? WELL, YEAH.

THE ONLY RESIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY BORDERS OUR PROPERTY ON OUR RIGHT SIDE OF THE POND, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT, IT BORDERS THE WHOLE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

AND THEN AS YOU SEE, UNTIL YOU GO WAY BACK OVER TO CHEROKEE FARMS ROAD, THERE'S NOTHING BEHIND US.

AND WHO, NOBODY IN ADAM'S WAY HAS OPPOSED YOUR COMPLAINT OF NOISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? APPARENTLY.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME, UH, I, AS I'M FINISHED WITH MY QUESTIONS WITH YOU, UM, YOU CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO US IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

AND, UH, NO, I MEAN, I WAS JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WAS HERE FROM ADAM'S WAY.

THERE APPEARS TO BE A GENTLEMAN.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. PLAYER? NOT THIS TIME, NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT THANK YOU, TARA.

WOULD YOU, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION? ARE YOU FROM ADAM'S WAY OR, I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE A PREDICAMENT, I MEAN, GO WITH THESE GENTLEMEN, BUT THEY WEREN'T GRANDPA, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SOLD PROPERTY.

YOU'RE RECUSING YOURSELF.

ARE YOU AN INTERESTED PARTY AND THIS ACTIVITY, OR WOULD YOU PUMP THEM UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? EXCUSE ME.

SHOULDN'T WE HAVE HIS NAME PIECE AGAINST, YEAH.

CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME PLEASE, SIR.

SHUMWAY.

THANK YOU, MR. SHUMWAY, ARE THERE OTHER, ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING REZONING REQUEST? OKAY.

UM, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR ME, I'M RELATED BY MARRIAGE TO THE APPLICANT.

SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM WHILE WE TAKE A VOTE.

NO, NO, WE'RE STILL IN A QUORUM.

WE'RE STILL IN A QUORUM FOR A VOTE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

START HOSTS FOR STAFF.

LOOKING SOUTH OF THE LAKE LAKES, ALL THE GREEN, SORRY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

UM, NOW WHEN DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP? YOU KNOW, IT, IF IT'S NOT CHANGED, HOW MANY, SO IF IT'S NOT CHANGED, THEY CAN'T ADD TO THE WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, CAN THEY SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY AND HAVE A DIFFERENT USE ON OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY? FIVE, FIVE? UM, NOT AS THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY SIT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE CORRECT WORDS AND ACCESS TO IF THEY WANTED TO SELL IT TO THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THEM TO INCORPORATE INTO THAT AND SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY.

WHAT ZONING WOULD THAT BE? I'M

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I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE WOODS AND THE WETLANDS THERE.

UM, SO IT PROBABLY MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE EMAIL, ALL OF THAT YELLOW THERE.

IS, UH, C3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.

NOW I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED, BECAUSE IT DOES, UH, BUT JUST LIKE THE MAY RIVER, A BUTTSTOCK I'M GOING TO BLUFFING AND THEY CAN DO DIFFERENT ZONING BECAUSE THERE'S AN A, BUT IT'S YELLOW ZONING THERE WITH WOOD.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT FOR ZONING.

BUT IN THE EVENT THEY SUBDIVIDED THAT PROPERTY.

COULD THEY COME BACK AND REQUEST THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES YOU SONY? YEAH.

SO NOTHING WOULD STOP HIM FROM REQUESTING IT LINE THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE EXISTING THING, BUT, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE.

SO UNLESS THEY REQUESTED OR CHANGES, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE BUFFER DO, YOU KNOW, OFFHAND FOR, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED SHOES BETWEEN THAT AND THEIR PROPERTY.

WE TYPICALLY BUFFER USES RATHER THAN SENDING DISTRICTS.

SO THERE'S A GREATER BUFFER IF IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR LARGE-SCALE RETAIL AGAINST THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, YOU KNOW, IF THE BUFFER WIDTH HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE USES THAN THE DISTRICT ITSELF, WHAT WHAT'S THE BUFFER WITH ON T2 RURAL CENTER IS THERE, UM, ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED, UH, WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, USE AGAINST THE, IF IT WERE AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL, IT'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER.

WE HAVE A TABLE, A PERIMETER BUFFERS IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODES.

AND SO THAT'S THE WIDEST ABOVE FIRST, BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE TWO.

IS THAT THE CASE NOW? IS IT YOU AS THE BUFFER APPROPRIATELY, ACCORDING TO THAT TABLE? UM, THAT, I MEAN, THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BRING IT INTO CONFORMITY WITH THE CURRENT CODES.

SO IT'S, IT'S NONE OF, IT'S NOT, IT'S ALL NON-CONFORMING CORRECT.

INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES BECAME AVAILABLE.

AND THE COUNTY STANDARD IS NOT TO GENERALLY PERMIT NON-CONFORMING STAFF, NON CONFORMING STANDARD.

CORRECT.

ANY, ANY, ANY PROPOSED USE THAT WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT USE WOULD NEED TO COME INTO FULL CONFORMITY? YEAH.

AND, AND WE'VE TYPICALLY INTERPRETED THAT AS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS CHANGING TO A USE THAT IS OF EQUAL INTENSITY, THEN THAT CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IS, IS OFTEN PERMITTED BY STAFF, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN AS AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED FOR EXISTING.

NON-CONFORMING USE WHAT'S THE COUNTY STANDING ON SPOT ZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PLANNING PROFESSIONALS, IT'S GENERALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT'S NEVER AN ACCEPTABLE, UM, ZONING CHANGE TO MAKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT CHOICE WHERE THEY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

W WAS THERE A REASON WHY, UM, YOU ZONED IT THAT WHEN WE, WHEN YOU ZONED, WHEN WE DID THE REZONING, UM, THE ZONING WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, DESIGNATED WAS RURAL A TRANSITIONAL, OVERLAYING IT WITH THE 99 ORDINANCE.

AND I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME THAT I, I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS IT HAD TO DO WITH, BECAUSE THIS, THIS USE STANDS ALONE BY ITSELF IN A, IN AN AREA THAT'S GENERALLY CHARACTERIZED AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL ALONG JOE FRAZIER ROAD.

UM, THAT, SO WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2014 ORDINANCE, THAT WHOLE NOTION OF A TRANSITIONAL OVERLAY WENT AWAY, WE STUCK WITH THE TH THE RURAL ZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH, SO I MEAN THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHEN WE ADOPT 2014 OR SO IT'S REALLY THE CHANGE IN LAND USE POLICY IN THAT AREA.

SO, UM, SO THE TRADITIONAL TRANSITIONAL OVERLAY THAT IT WAS ZONED, WOULD HE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO EXPAND HIS CURRENT USES UNDER THAT ZONING? THAT WAS KIND OF AN UNUSUAL DESIGNATION, BASICALLY IN OUR OLD ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE THAT OVERLAY GAVE THEM A PATH TO CONSIDER IT AN UPSTANDING IF, UM, UH, SEWER WATER AND ADEQUATE PUBLIC SERVICES WERE AVAILABLE TO THE SITE.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS MEANT TO KIND OF SET ASIDE AN AREA, SAY THAT EVENTUALLY OVER TIME IT WOULD TRANSITION INTO A, A MORE 10 ZONING AS

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BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DEVELOP UNDER THAT ZONING DESIGNATION, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE RURAL STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THEIR PROPERTY.

ANYTHING ELSE? CAN I ADDRESS THE SPOT ZONING ISSUE? SURE.

COME ON BACK, MR. CLAIRE, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION AND ABOUT A MILE FROM US ON BAY PINES ROAD IS ON BAY PINES ROAD AT TWO 65 BAY PINES ROAD IS A FORMER MOVING AND STORAGE COMPANY THAT IS NOW AN RV REPAIR SERVICE, FORMERLY MOVING AND STORAGE GOING BORDERLINE IT'S PROPERTY BORDERS UP TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET AT TWO 60 BAY PINES ROAD IS AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP.

IT BORDERS, TWO RESIDENTS ON ITS LEFT SIDE.

IT'S JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT SPOT ZONING.

I MEAN, I DON'T CONSIDER US REALLY ASKING FOR A SPOT ZONING.

WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE REGULATIONS AND SAYING WHAT T2 R STANDS FOR, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO.

WAREHOUSING STORAGE OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS UNDER T TO R C.

IF YOU GO DOWN AND T2 ARE, YOU'LL NEVER SEE ANYTHING ABOUT WAREHOUSING AND YOU THINK ABOUT STORAGE OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS, BUT IT IS UNDER T TWO RC.

AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UM, NOAH OR ROB, WOULD YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT WERE CITED? YES.

I'M HAD ABOUT SOME TIME HERE GETTING TO THE ZONING LAYER ON THAT.

I KNOW EXACTLY THE SITE C-SUITE IF YOU WANT YOUR POINT BEING IS IF THERE'S A PRECEDENT ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT SPOTS TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S BEING DONE IN THAT AREA.

WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS CHANGE, IT COULD BE IN PLACE ALREADY THREE YEARS AGO.

I MAY NOT BE SPOT ZONING ZONING GIVEN.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ASK THAT, OH, IT'S NUTS NOW IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT WILL BE SPOT IF WE CHANGE, RIGHT? YEAH.

I THINK THIS MIGHT BRING IN, UH, AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE MAP.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE CURSOR.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING, UH, REZONE REQUEST TO BE RESOLVED.

UH, THIS IS JOE FRAZIER ROADS, UH, GOING UP TO A LAUREL ROAD UP HERE.

SO THE INTERSECTION OF WHICH PROPERTIES WERE YOU SPEAKING OF? UH, ONE'S ON BANK BONDS PRIOR TO, OR WHATEVER.

SO, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE AREA ALONG BAIN HINES ROAD IS AN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO IT IT'S A ZONING DISTRICT THAT ENCOMPASSES, UM, THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THAT INTERSECTION.

SO THAT'S IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK ON THE GROUNDS, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT MAY APPEAR TO STANDALONE IS AN AREA THAT IS CONTIGUOUS WITH THE SAME ZONE, BUT IT IS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? YES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT.

UM, I THINK IT'S TIME TO TAKE A MOTION AND VOTE.

AND DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT AND REZONING REQUEST AT 5.23 ACRES AT 33 TO FIVE JOE FRAZIER ROAD FROM T2 RURAL TO T2 RURAL CENTER.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

WHAT WAS HIS MOTION? HE MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

TO THE NEXT PIECE OF BUSINESS, AND THAT IS A FURTHER REVIEW INSIGHT COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I'M SORRY.

YOU WERE COUGHING TIMELY.

DID YOU WANT A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

SORRY.

ARE YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT ZONING REZONING REQUESTS FOR 5.23 ACRES AT THREE 35 JOE FRAZIER ROAD FROM T2 RURAL TO T2 RURAL CENTER.

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WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON

[8. 2040 Comprehensive Plan]

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPENT HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND AT OUR WORKSHOP ON APRIL 20TH, THERE WERE EXTENSIVE COMMENTS THAT WE, THAT WE RECEIVED IN ROUND ROBIN.

I THINK COMMENTS ARE STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL THE SEVENTH FROM, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS YOU WANT TO GIVE US, OR I THINK THERE'S FOLKS HERE THAT I MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

AND I, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, IN THE PROCESS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST AND THEN WE CAN FINISH UP, LET'S DO IT THAT WAY.

UM, ANYBODY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE? I HAD A COMMON GOOD THAT I WAS HOPING TO GET AN UPDATE FIRST BEFORE COMMON INSIGHT ONTO THE PROCESS.

MORE HELPFUL.

LET'S COME ON BACK UP THERE.

IS IT, AS YOU REMEMBER, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS, UH, APRIL THIRDS, WE RECEIVED THE DRAFT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THAT WAS UNVEILED TO US KIND OF SIGHT UNSEEN.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO AT THAT POINT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHERE IT WAS MADE PUBLIC.

AND WE BEGAN THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS.

UM, SINCE THAT TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT A KIND OF A MEDIA SPLASH OUT THERE, UM, CONTACTED, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON THE COUNTY MAILING LIST MADE SOME VERY TARGETED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO REVIEW THE PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

UM, SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

UM, DO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD PROPOSED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN RECEIVE COMMENTS EVEN PAST MAY 7TH, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD TAKE COMMENTS UP TO MAY 7TH AND THEN STAFF WOULD KIND OF GO THROUGH AND ORGANIZE THE COMMENTS AND THEN MEET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HAD A WORKSHOP TO KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH MONTH AND, AND, AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, WE ARE, UM, WE FEEL CONFIDENT AT THE STAFF LEVEL, DEPENDING ON A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WE, AGAIN, BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE WEEK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THOSE OUT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS SOON AFTER THE SEVENTH AS POSSIBLE.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, I THINK FROM A LOGISTIC STANDPOINT THAT THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY IS THE EARLIEST THAT WE CAN GET THEM TO YOU.

AND THEN WE'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS SOON AS THE 13TH OR ANY DAY AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THE COMMENTS, REVISE THE DOCUMENT, AND THEN COME BACK FOR A JUNE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERNALLY IMPOSED DEADLINE.

IF WE BEGIN TO ENCOUNTER A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS THAT REALLY MEAN THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A MUCH CLOSER EVALUATION OF THE PLAN, WE CAN KIND OF PUT THAT SCHEDULE ON HOLD AND TAKE A, YOU KNOW, TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING AS MUCH INPUT AS POSSIBLE INTO THIS FINAL DOCUMENT.

SO OUR LAST W OUR FINAL REVIEW IN PUBLIC SESSION WOULD BE AT THE, DO A NEW COMMISSIONER MEETING THAT'S CURRENTLY WITH SCHEDULED PLACE.

AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM SPEAKING WITH ERIC GREENWAY, UM, THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE TYPICALLY TAKES OFF, YOU KNOW, UM, OFTEN THEY DON'T HAVE A JULY MEETING AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T HAVE AN AUGUST MEETING.

SO THAT MEANS THERE'S REALLY NO HURRY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IF WE SEE THAT WE NEED MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, OR WE'RE NOT RUNNING UP AGAINST ANY SORT OF A DEADLINE OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT TAKES THE WHOLE SUMMER, IT TAKES A WHOLE SUMMER.

IF WE COULD DO IT BY JUNE, WE COULD DO IT BY JUNE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT GIVES US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN, IN THE TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD.

THE COMPLAINT ITSELF, WE DIDN'T REVIEW THE ATLAS NOR THE, UM, THE WORK PLAN, SO TO SPEAK.

WELL, OUR FIRST, UH, OUR LAST WORKSHOP WAS TO REVIEW SECTION ONE,

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UM, WOULD IT BE THE INTENT OF THE NEXT WORKSHOP TO DO ALL THREE SECTIONS, OR WILL THERE BE UPDATES THAT YOU WILL BE PROVIDING ON? THE OTHER REASON I ASKED THAT IS THAT THE ACTION PLANS, THE WORK PLAN, SO TO SPEAK PART TWO, UH, WAS VERY INCOMPLETE AND THERE'S JUST IT'S TO BE DETERMINED TYPE THINGS.

AND, UM, I'M WONDERING IF THIS PROCESS INCLUDES COMPLETION OF THAT OR THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A FORWARD GOING THING.

UH, WHAT IS YOUR THINKING ON THAT? WELL, UM, THE ACTION PLAN IS REALLY, IT'S ALL THE ACTION ITEMS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN A MATRIX.

AND IT'S OUR STANDPOINT THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE, THE JUNE HEARING.

IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS MORE TIME TO REVIEW THAT, OR, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY, BUT, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT FINISHED FOR THAT, THAT, UH, WELL MEETING THE WORD, I CALL IT A WORK PLAN RATHER THAN CAUSE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS AND DO EACH OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION, YOU GET INTO THE WHO, WHAT, WHEN AND WHERE, AND THE FUNDING AND THE TIMING AND THE PRIORITIZATION AND WHAT DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBLE AND WHAT ARE THE DELIVERABLES, WHICH I THINK IS CRITICAL BECAUSE AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, A PLAN STRATEGY WITHOUT A WORK PLAN IS JUST A DREAM THAT WE WANT TO GET DOWN TO.

I IDENTIFIED PRIORITIES, PRIORITIZATION, AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE END PRODUCT, THE OUTCOMES.

SO, YEAH, I, I WOULD CONSIDER NOT HANDING SOMETHING OVER TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT'S INCOMPLETE LIKE THAT, BUT DEFINITELY, I AGREE JUST FOR EXTRA CLARITY, UM, LIBBY ANDERSON AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FLESHED OUT ALL OF THE, WHEN, WHERE WHY'S, THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

UM, AND I THINK BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT INCORPORATED IN TIME FOR THE PAST, SO IT EXISTS AND WILL BE THERE.

GREAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP AND, AND LOOK AT ALL THE COMMENTS, WE GET THAT, TAKE THAT AND UPDATE THAT SECTION AND HAVE THAT READY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.

OKAY, GOOD.

I'D LIKE TO ASK ROB A QUESTION, ROB, WHAT I SENT YOU TODAY IN AN EMAIL, SHOULD I SAVE THAT FOR A WORKSHOP OR SHOULD I, SO WE'VE BEEN TAKING EVERY SINGLE EMAIL COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE, WE'RE CHARTING THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WRITING THEM DOWN, WE'RE TRACKING THEM, WE'RE LOOKING INTO MAKING SURE THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A COMMENT, BUT IT'S OVER IN ANOTHER SECTION OR IT'S ADDRESSED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH ONE, MAKING SURE THEY'RE IN THE PLAN, IF NOT, UH, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW WE WANT TO INCORPORATE YOUR COMMENTS.

SO, UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING, I SHOULD SAY THAT, NO, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU SENT THE EMAIL WE'LL THEN GO AHEAD AND MARK ALL THOSE COMMENTS IF YOU WANT TO EXPOUND ON IT.

THAT ARE MORE AT A SUBURBAN OR URBAN DENSITY.

JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS NOW? FRANKLIN, DID YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT UP? WELL, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I SAID, UH, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, I HAVE A STRONG POINT ON IS THE, IS THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. UH, I KNOW WE PLAN ON PUTTING SEWERS, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, BUFORD COUNTY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT THE OLDEST SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT BUFORD COUNTY, ALWAYS SETTING UP WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE INSPECTING THEM AND MAKING PEOPLE, UH, PUT IN NEW ONES, UH, TO PROTECT OUR GROUNDWATER.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, IT'S DEFINITELY A PRIORITY AND WE DO ADDRESS IT IN THE PLAN.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TARGETED CERTAIN AREAS AND, AND GOT AFTER A GRANT MONEY THAT IT, YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, MADE IT, UM, AVAILABLE FOR INCOME RESIDENTS TO HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEMS UPDATED.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH IT.

I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT BE FOR CHEST FOR WATER, SEWER AUTHORITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ASSESS THE FEE FOR EACH, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY WOULD BE SERVING.

SO EXTENDING LINES, IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR EACH AREA, YOU KNOW? AND SO IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE KIND OF PRIORITIZE THOSE AREAS

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WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE IN AND AROUND EFFORTS AND, UH, THERE'S SOME OF THEM IN BLUFFTON, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LITTLE BETTER THAN EXPANDING OF BRIGHTON BEACH AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OVER, UH, IN THE ALTRUA AREA, UM, IN BLUFFTON, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE AREAS WE WOULD PRIORITIZE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE GREATEST, YOU KNOW, INSTANCE OF FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY OF, OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SOME RURAL AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH, WITH INCOME ELIGIBLE RESIDENTS TO UPDATE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE, MIGHT HAVE HIGH RATES OF FAILURE.

UM, AND WE DID THAT IN THE, UM, OTT, UH, THE BAILEY SLOOP AREA ALONG ONE 70, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE SUBSIDIZING THOSE WHO REALLY COULDN'T AFFORD TO, UH, PUT IN A NEW SEPTICS SYSTEM? WELL, THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK AND WE'VE THOUGHT IN THE PAST, UM, I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT IT'S IT'S ABOUT THE, UH, THE BIKE LANES.

I REALLY BELIEVE CAREFUL, CAREFUL CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO HOW WE PREPARE THE BIKE LANES, JUST PAINTING A WHITE LINE ON THE ROAD DOES NOT PROTECT, UH, BICYCLES AND THE PEOPLE ON AT NEW YORK CITY, WHICH I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.

THE AVERAGE SPEED IN NEW YORK CITY IS 7.4 TO 8.4 MILES PER HOUR.

IN 2019, THERE WERE 3,200 BICYCLE ACCIDENTS.

60 OF THEM, UH, PEOPLE THOUGHT THE OTHER ONES WERE JUST SLIGHT FENDER BENDERS OR PEOPLE WERE INJURED, YOU KNOW, BROKEN ARMS. SO I REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD, UH, CONSIDER HOW WE PLAN THESE BICYCLE LANES.

I DRIVE ONE 70, WHICH HAS NO BICYCLE LANES.

THEY HAVE A BICYCLE PATH, BUT PEOPLE DON'T USE THAT BICYCLE PATH.

THEY USE THE ROADWAY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 50 MILE AN HOUR ROADWAY AND I'M, UH, JUST WORRIED, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE A ROAD LIKE A ONE 70? UM, WE DO ACTUALLY, AND YOU SHOULD BE SEEING IT SHORTLY.

WE'RE WORKING ON A BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN PLAN FOR ALL OF BEAVER COUNTY, INCLUDING MUNICIPALITIES.

AND THAT VERY ISSUE.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT MOST CYCLISTS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE BEING OUT ON A BUSY ROAD ON A DEDICATED BIKE LANE, EVEN IF, EVEN IF THEY HAVE FOUR FEET.

UM, THERE'S VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE IN THAT SETTING.

AND SO OUR PLAN IS FOCUSED MORE ON PROTECTED BIKE LANES, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I REALIZED THEY'RE NOT IDEAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF SITUATION WE HAVE WITH BLUFFTON PARKWAY WHERE THEY'RE SEPARATED FROM THE ROADWAY, UM, THEY'RE WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO LANES OR TWO BIKES TO GO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.

PART OF THE PLAN KIND OF FOCUSES ON, ON PROVIDING A NETWORK OF THOSE TYPES OF TRAILS TO CONNECT AS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AS POSSIBLE IN MORE RURAL AREAS THAT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE SIMPLY TO HAVE A PAVED SHOULDER, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE INTO CYCLING.

BUT I AGREE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST PUTTING A STRIKE DOWN A ROAD DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T MAKE IT A SAFE.

SO WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN CYCLING, UM, WITH THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL IN NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR RESIDENTS HERE.

AND, UM, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE BUILD IS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE FACILITIES THAT RESIDENTS FEEL SAFE IN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON IN THIS PLAN.

I GUESS THE REST OF MY COMMENTS I'LL SAVE THE NEXT WORKSHOP.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, RIGHT.

AND YEAH, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THEN ON OUR NIGHT AND DAY IS HERE TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

UH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TODAY, THOUGH.

THE LAND IS AVAILABLE ONLINE OR YOU ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

SO YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DOWNLOAD IT? UM, SO I MEAN, I CAN PUT THE WEBSITE UP HERE, UP HERE, BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT IT'S

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RIGHT DOWN THE PAGE.

YOU HAVE THE LINKS OF THE PLAN AND THEN THE BACKGROUND.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UH, IN ORDER TO MOVE TO COUNSEL, FOLLOWING OUR RECOMMENDATION.

DID YOU, DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCES MAY TAKE TWO MONTHS OFF AND IT JUST SIT THERE? OR CAN WE WORK ON THE PLAN? WHY ARE WE IN A RUSH? YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WE JUST GOT A SIGNAL THAT'S ONLY ONE MONTH.

SO, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD, THAT GIVES YOU AN X.

IT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING MAKE DECISION ON ONE EVENINGS.

AND THEN WHEN IT WAS FIRST DONE ROLLED, UM, AS I RECALL, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS OR PUBLIC THE BEST YOU CAN DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THE, WITH THE VIRUS, HOW MANY, UM, PUBLIC WORKSHOPS HAVE WE HAD OR ANY THAT YOU'VE ANNOUNCED IF ANY, WE HAD, UM, BACK IN MARCH OF 2020, WE HAD, UM, TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS, ONE NORTH OF THE BROAD ONE SOUTH OF THE BROAD, UM, INTRODUCING THE PLAN.

UM, AND WE, WE RECEIVED, NO, WE HAD A LOT OF KEYPAD POLLING.

WE HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT WENT IN, THAT WENT ONLINE AT THAT POINT AND RECEIVED A LOT OF INPUT.

UM, WE HAD TWO ONLINE, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, UM, ONE HAVING TO DO WITH THE GREEN PRINT AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

AND THE OTHER ONE HAVING TO DO WITH LAND USE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

ONE WAS HELD IN AUGUST, UH, 2021 IN SEPTEMBER, 2020.

THEN IN OCTOBER, WE HAD THREE WORKSHOPS.

UH, WE HAD ONE AT BURTON WELLS PARK, UH, WHERE WE HAD A FAIRLY GOOD ATTENDANCE, ONE DOWN AT BUCHWALD OR AT THE RECREATION CENTER.

AND THEN WE HAD ONE OUT AT PENN CENTER IN ST.

HELENA ISLAND.

UM, AND SO WE HAD THOSE AS A DROP-IN AND SOCIALLY DISTANCE EVENT BECAUSE WE REALIZED WE REALLY NEEDED TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, MEET WITH RESIDENTS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A CROWDED ROOM, BUT IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE.

I'LL SAY THAT TO, TO PLAN IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP SINCE THEY UNVEILED THE SO-CALLED LAST LAP, THE DRAFT THAT WE KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE NOT.

SO THE PUBLIC, CAUSE I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT.

THAT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT IT AS WE CAN.

AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.

UH, JUST ONE MORE.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD PUBLISH THIS IN THE, IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS, BECAUSE SINCE THIS PLAN SAYS, IT GOES TO 2040, MOST OF US WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT THEY WILL BE HERE.

AND, UH, I IT'S THEIR FUTURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND I REALLY THINK THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON IT.

NOT ONLY THE LIBRARIES, LIKE, UH, SETS THAT WE POINTED OUT, BUT ALSO THE SCHOOLS THINK THEY'RE GOING TO CAR CARE.

MA'AM DID YOU, UH, YOU SAID YOU WENT, YOU HAD A QUESTION OR A COMMENT, SO YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

JUST FROM A BRIEF GLANCE, UM, THAT IT WAS MAINLY ARE PREDOMINATED BY WHITE SENIOR CITIZENS IN INCORPORATED AREAS THAT ARE LIVING IN DETACHED HOUSING AND THEY ARE, UH, PROVIDING MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WILL AFFECT, UM, RULE BLACK CONSTITUENTS IS, UH, CONSTITUENTS IN UNINCORPORATED UNINCORPORATED AREAS WOULD KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE PROJECTING RENTAL RATES OF $2,000 GOING FORWARD.

MY NAME IS DAWN PAGE AND I'M WITH THE NEWLY FORMED, UM, LITTLE COUNTRY, EQUITABLE LAND TRUST.

AND I, UM, HAVE BEEN, UH, CALLED ON BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HERE TO, UM, SORTA TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN.

UM, AND I DID SO, AND I'VE FOUND, UM, THAT THERE WERE BOTH FEW SPOTS THAT NEEDED A LITTLE FLESHING OUT.

I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS, AS SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT, THERE WERE SOME CONSIDERABLE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.

UM, AND JUST DOING A BRIEF REVIEW OF THE PLAN AND LOOKING AT THE RESPOND AS I'M TRYING TO FIND MY NOTES HERE.

SORRY.

UM, I THINK IT WAS KIND OF OBVIOUS THAT, THAT WE DO NEED TO DO A BETTER SURVEY OF THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS, THEY DON'T SEEM TO QUITE MATCH UP WITH THE CONSTITUENCY.

UM, IT APPEARED THAT, UM, AS I SAID, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND ZIP CODES ON THE SURVEY DON'T MATCH THE EFFECTED CONSTITUENCY.

UM, IT APPEARS, UH,

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AND, UM, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE JUST AFTER THE QUICK LITTLE BIT, I TOOK IT, THE PLAN THAT IT APPEARS THAT IT COULD VERY POTENTIALLY RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, SOME SIGNIFICANT DISPARITIES.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO DEFINITELY OFFER MY SERVICES, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING AND ALSO TO AID IN GETTING MORE PARTICIPATION FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, WHICH IS SADLY MISSING, BUT I'M ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN INCORPORATING INTO THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, OR CALLING FOR A LOW COUNTRY EQUITY TASK FORCE.

UM, THE, OF THAT TASK FORCE WOULD BE TO STUDY THE SOURCE OF CHANGES IN LAND OWNERSHIP AMONG THE BLACK POPULATION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, FOLLOWING THE END OF THE PORT ROYAL EXPERIMENT IN 1865, PRESIDENT JOHNSON, FOLLOWING LINCOLN'S ASSASSINATION.

I THINK SINCE 1980, I THINK THE BLACK POPULATION BASICALLY HAS BEEN ABOUT CUT IN HALF HERE.

SO I'M PRETTY SURE, SURE.

WE CAN ASSUME THAT LAND, THAT, THAT MUCH FOR MORE LAND AND HAS BEEN LOST AS WELL.

AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO STUDY THE IMPACT OF HEIRS PROPERTY, WHICH AFFECTS EVERYONE, UM, TO ALSO STUDY THE IMPACT OF ANY DISPARITIES IN THE FREQUENCY IN TERMS OF BUFORD COUNTIES, EASEMENTS, AND WAIVERS GRANTED ACROSS DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, AN AUDIT OF WHO HAS RECEIVED CONSERVATION AND TIMBERLAND EASEMENTS, AND THEN ALSO WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT WHILE CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO RECEIVE THOSE TYPES OF, UH, HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF LAND LOSS THAT WE SEE GOING ON SIDE BY SIDE, PEOPLE WHO, UH, DO NOT HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THAT SIMILAR INFORMATION AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO STUDY THE IMPACT OF DISPARITIES IN TAXATION PRACTICES ON BLACK LAND LOSS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO STUDY AND HOW THE USE OF CULTURAL AND CONSERVATION EASEMENT IMPACT LAND LOSS, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMIC STABILITY.

I'D LIKE TO STUDY THE IMPACT AND DISPARITIES OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING AS IT RELATES TO ROADS AND BRIDGES, WHICH WAS JUST BROUGHT UP COURSE.

WE KNOW ABOUT THE HORRORS, UH, THAT OCCUR ON HILTON HEAD BRIDGE.

UM, I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BICYCLES, BUT WOULD ALSO BE NICE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS SO PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK DOWN THE STREET AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WALKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

UM, AND ALSO THE STUDY, UH, UH, DISPARITIES IN ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT WOULD MITIGATE LAND LOSS AND INCREASE WEALTH BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO ESSENTIALLY THIS TASK FORCE WOULD RECOMMEND PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL OR IN THIS PLAN THAT WOULD ADDRESS, UH, THE FINDINGS OF THIS TASK FORCE.

AND I WAS ALSO, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE SEPTIC TANKS THAT WERE ASKED ABOUT, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POOR PEOPLE HAVING TO RELY ON GRANT PROCESSES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, NEVER DIRECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT $700,000, USED THE CITY, THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY TO BUY A 700,000 THOUSAND PIECES OF A $700,000 PIECE OF WHICH APPARENTLY MAY BE TOXIC AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, $700,000 COULD'VE BEEN SPENT ON SEPTIC TANKS OR POSSIBLY, UM, ON PREVENTING LAND LOSS AND THE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T, WHO AREN'T PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT THESE, UM, TIMBERLAND, EASEMENTS AND CONSERVATION.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE TYPICALLY PUBLIC INFORMATION, BUT AS WE'VE SEEN, EVEN WITH THE CITY PLANNING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF PARTICIPATION THERE.

HASN'T BEEN A MEETING SINCE LAST MARCH.

SO I'M HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, EQUITABLE INPUT

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INTO THE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

AND DEFINITELY, UM, ENCOURAGE THE YOUTH TO HAVE A SAY, SO IN THIS SENSE, THIS ISN'T, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, US LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND TRIED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE BUFORD COUNTY MORE EQUITABLE PLACE FOR ALL.

AND SO I'M HOPING TO BE VERY MUCH INVOLVED GOING FORWARD IN THE PLANNING SESSION AND TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I HAVE A PLAN THAT, UM, I WILL BE SUBMITTING FOR THAT TEST FOR THAT, I GUESS MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A CALL FOR THE COUNCIL TO IN PANEL, YOU KNOW, STAKEHOLDERS, BUT I HAVE IT ALL WRITTEN OUT, BUT I WILL SUBMIT THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPACE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.

SURE, RIGHT.

THEY'RE ALL GREAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

UH, I'M ALSO WORKING ON THE BLUFFTON COMP PLAN.

SO YOU SHOULD GO DO A TALK TO THEM AT THE SAME TIME, BY THE WAY.

UM, THE LATIN POPULATION HAS GROWN 365% SINCE THE LAST CENSUS.

SO I THINK YOU NEED TO INCLUDE THAT AND, AND YOUR, AND YOUR GOALS, NOT JUST THE BLACK COMMUNITY, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT NEED HELP OF ALL RACES.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT OF COURSE, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE BEEN THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S OFTEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY HAVE A LASER LIKE FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, THIS, MY COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT, THAT BLACK PEOPLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, BUFORD COUNTY ARE PRETTY MUCH AT THE, UM, NEAR THE BOTTOM OR BELOW MEDIA, NON MOST OF THE WELLNESS INDICATOR.

SO THAT'S MY FOCUS NOW, IF THERE IS SOMEONE FROM THE LATINO COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP THAT, CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT TOO, BUT MY FOCUS IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC MISSION AND FOCUS, SO YEAH, WELL, I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THAT VERY WELL SAID.

I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN, AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAJOR THEMES OF THE COMP PLAN IS EQUITABILITY EQUITY.

UM, AND IT'S PEPPERED THROUGHOUT WITH ALL KINDS OF, UH, SHOULD TJ AND ACTION-ORIENTED STATEMENTS ABOUT EQUITY, WHETHER THEY'RE SUFFICIENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK YOUR TASK FORCE CAN FELL PROBABLY LET IT SHED A LOT OF LIGHT ON THAT.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SAID, UM, I TAKE IT TO THAT.

YOU'VE, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED A LIAISON WITH NOAH.

AND, AND, UH, I, I WOULD TAKE IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING SOME SORT OF A GET TOGETHER WITH THIS WE'RE GOING TO NEED.

WELL, I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED IN, IN, IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON THAT.

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT, UM, IN THERE AND A LOT OF MAPS THAT TALK ABOUT SOCIAL EQUITY AND THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AND READ BECAUSE THE SHADES OF BLUE AND PURPLE AND GREENS, SOMETIMES YOU GET LOST ON ME.

UM, BUT I THINK YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND, UM, YOUR PERSPECTIVES AND BRING TO BEAR SOME, SOME GOOD INSIGHT, UM, BACKGROUND IN, UH, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S NOT MY THING, BUT I DO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN FINANCE AND INVESTMENTS.

SO THAT WAS MY PREVIOUS LIFE BEFORE I BECAME AN ACTIVIST.

AND I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR, UM, LAND RETENTION, BUT, UM, YES, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH NO AND YES, WE HAVE MET.

AND, UM, I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO BECOMING A BETTER, A BIGGER PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND JUST HELPING THIS BE A GREAT PLACE FOR EVERYBODY.

WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU CONTINUING WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK PLACE TO SEE YOU.

I MEAN, I, I, I'M GLAD TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BASICALLY BE AN EXTENSION OF THE COUNTY AND OF THIS PLAN, BECAUSE OF COURSE WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO LIVE UNDER THIS PLAN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A QUICK ANSWER ON THIS, BUT HOW CAN WE BETTER PUBLICIZE THIS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING RIGHT NOW? I KNOW WE PUT IT IN THE PAPERS, UH, WHAT CAN WE DO TO BETTER PUBLIC? I THINK MY, I MEAN, I, THE THING IS TO GO TO THEM, YOU KNOW, TO GO WHERE THEY ARE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY GOING ONLINE IS NOT IN LOOKING AT GOD.

GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS IS NOT WITH THE AVERAGE PERSON, DOES, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL WALK AND THAT'S MY THING.

AND I, IN MY CASE, I THINK I WOULD GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING AS PART OF THE, UM, OF THE, UH, THE, UH, EQUITABLE LAND TRUSTS THAT WE WOULD TRY TO GET OUT THERE AND MAKE IT A JOB TO GO OUT AND TAKE THE INFORMATION.

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SO JUST TO BE A RESOURCE TO GO OUT AND TAKE THE INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY HOPING TO WORK, UH, HAND IN HAND WITH YOU GUYS TO GET THAT OUT AND JUST TO ASSIST IN, IN GETTING, SO IF I HAD TO DO, YOU KNOW, TOWN BALLS OR, YOU KNOW, GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHAT I DO.

SO THAT'S NO PROBLEM FOR ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL KEEP GETTING GREEN HERE.

I LIKE, I LOVE TO SEE HER TAKE THE NEXT YEAR.

HERE SHE IS.

GOOD.

THAT A LOT OF THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE ON ST.

UM, I SEE ANOTHER HAND OR TWO BACK THERE.

DID YOU ALL WANT TO TOUCH SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT? MA'AM COME ON FORWARD, YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND LET US KNOW.

I'M SABRINA RENTALS, GREEN.

I'M A RESONANCE IN HELENA.

UM, AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND I DID TO EVERYTHING THAT DAWN SAID.

UM, UH, BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

UH, WE ARE, UM, THE MINORITY POPULATION, BUT AS AFRICAN-AMERICANS ON THIS ISLAND AT ONE TIME, WE'RE NOT.

SO THAT BOTHERS ME.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE LAY SOME FORM GROUNDWORK, A COMMISSION OF SORTS TO FIND OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE HA HELP TO MAINTAIN THE HABITATS OF THE DIVERSE POPULATION HERE ON THE ISLAND.

AND YOU MENTIONED THE HISPANICS, OF COURSE, THE HISPANICS AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE SUFFERING THE MOST ON THIS ISLAND.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, THIS IS ONE OF THE RICHEST COUNTIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

AND SO I THINK ALL OF US IS INCOMPETENT UPON ALL OF US TO DO OUR PART, TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN WE DON'T DO IT, THEY WILL NOT HAVE A PLACE TO HABITATE HABITAT THERE.

THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR HABITAT, JUST LIKE YOU TAKE A BIRDS NEST, THEY HAVE TO FLY, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HAPPENING, BUT I WANT TO REVERSE THAT AND SEE SOMETHING ELSE WHERE YOU HELP THEM TO MAINTAIN THAT HABITAT AND TO LIVE, UH, ADJUST TO LIFE ON THE SILENT, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND HAVE THE MEANS TO, UM, ENJOY IT LIKE WE DO LIKE EVERYBODY DOES.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY MY COMMENTS, BUT DEFINITELY SOME KIND OF COMMISSION.

THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A RECENT THING.

THIS IS AN ONGOING THING.

AND, UM, MY ORGANIZATION WITH MARSH VIEW COMMUNITY ORGANIC FARM, WE HAD, UH, SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE VERGE OF LOSING THEIR PROPERTIES LAST YEAR, UM, AND DOING A PANDEMIC.

AND SO WE STEPPED IN AND I, I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IS NOT AS VOCAL AS MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

SO WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

YOU ASKED, HOW CAN WE CONTACT? HOW CAN WE REACH THE COMMUNITY? LIKE SHE SAID, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE MINISTERIAL ALLIANCES, OUR CHURCHES, A BIG ON THE ISLAND.

WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS, ALL OF THE GREEK ORGANIZATIONS ARE REPRESENTED ON ISLAND THAT THE DELTAS, THE ALPHAS, THAT MAKERS, UM, ALL OF THOSE GREEK ORGANIZATIONS ARE VERY VITAL IN THE COMMUNITY AND JUST LOCAL LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE THERE TO HELP GALVANIZE THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN'T COME TO MEETINGS.

SO WHO CAN'T GO ONLINE AND ACCESS THE PLAN.

BUT IF IT'S A 40 YEAR PLAN, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S OUR CHILDREN.

IT'S OUR GRANDCHILDREN.

IT'S NOT US.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY DO NEED TO HAVE A SANE AS WELL.

SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU, UM, WORK WITH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? NOAH AND I MET NOAH.

I WAS AT THE PENN CENTERS WALKTHROUGH, AND I, IT TOOK ME SO LONG.

I WAS TRYING TO WRITE, WRITE, WRITE, WRITE, BUT IT IS SO MANY THINGS, FLOODING YOUR BRAIN.

WELL, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS, THIS IS SO MANY THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO I THINK A CONDITION IS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS VERY MUCH NEEDED TO STUDY.

WHY ARE THERE SO MUCH LAND LOSS OF VALID DG, PEOPLES AND LEGACY? AND THAT'S ALL THE, OUR ANCESTORS HAD, WAS A PIECE OF LAND TO LEAVE TO THEIR CHILDREN.

AND NOW THAT LAND IS BEING KNOCKED OVER LIKE NERVOUSNESS BEING TAKEN AWAY.

I WAS GOING TO POINT SOMETHING OUT TO HER.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS? WOW, MAN.

WOW.

CAN WE JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? YES.

MY NAME IS SALLY LOMBARD AND I'M ON ST.

HELENA AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT

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HELENA ISLAND, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE BLACK AND HISPANIC.

UM, MANY OF THEM STILL DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO UNIT.

SO WHEN YOU MAKE AN A, THAT MEANS THE FAMILIES DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.

SO WHEN YOU MAKE A COMMENT THAT SOMETHING'S AVAILABLE ONLINE, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S, SO IT'S, IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING TO SEE THAT.

AND WHAT DAWN IS OFFERING, UM, IS VERY CRITICAL THAT, UM, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IMPACTED BY WHAT IS BEING, YOU KNOW, FOR 2040, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN IDEA THAT IT'S, THAT, THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.

SO THAT, THAT SOMEONE IS WANTING TO, TO, UM, GO, GO TO THE DOORSTEPS AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE INTERNET, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT THEY'RE INDEED INFORMED.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THEY'RE INFORMED, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AT LEAST ARE INFORMED, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICIZED IN ALL SCHOOLS FOR THOSE EXACTLY, FOR THOSE PEOPLE, IF I'M, IF I MAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU.

I WONDER IF WE WENT INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE SAY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOW MANY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WOULD EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS? I THINK THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE THERE ALSO.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE.

RACHEL, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? YES, SIR.

WE JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

HI, MY NAME IS WILLIAM SMITH AND I DO, SEE IF YOU COULD TAKE OVER.

MY NAME IS SMITH AND I DO SIT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD HERE AT GRIFFITH COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR YOU TO TAKE IT TO THE SCHOOLS.

I'M SURE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WHO WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH Y'ALL WITH, WITH, UH, THIS BOARD OR THAT, UH, I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE A REASON.

I MEAN, WHAT A PROBLEM, EXCUSE ME.

ALSO, I'D BE A PROBLEM TO PUT THIS IN, INTO A HAZE, A SOPHOMORE, JUNIOR CLASS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A US HISTORY STUDIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL FALL RIGHT INTO THAT IN A MAJOR TOPIC LIKE THIS.

WHY BELIEVE THIS WILL BE A GREAT TOPIC FOR SOME TEACHERS TO GO OVER WITH THE STUDENTS.

AND YOU'LL BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY STUDENTS ACTUALLY WILL BE ABLE TO JUMP ON HIS PLAN AND TELL YOU DIFFERENT THINGS AND TELL YOU THEIR VIEWS, BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE STUDENTS HAVE NO PROBLEM TELLING YOU HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.

AND, UH, THE SUICIDE ALREADY TOLD US THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THEY FEEL THAT BEAUTIFUL COUNTY IS JUST A PLACE FOR RETIREMENT.

IF ALL THE FOLKS WHO THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE YOUTH TO DO HERE.

AND THEN THE YOUNGER FOLKS DON'T MIND HELPING US TELLING US LIKE YOUR HAIR HAIR HIDE IN THIS PLANTS, WHERE DO WE FIT IN THAT? SO I THINK THIS WILL, THAT WILL BE A, THIS IS A GOOD SEGUE.

YOU GET TIME.

NOW, IF THIS PREGNANT HAVE TO BE RUSHED TO TAKE IT THERE.

AND EVEN IF YOU PILOT THIS FOR POSITIVE, UH, WITH, WITHIN MAYBE A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS OR COUPLE NORTH OR SOUTH OR ONE, A COUPLE OF DROPS AND A COUPLE OF SOFTWARE ABROAD, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO, UH, TO DEFINITELY GET TO SIT IN THERE, UM, AND TAKE IMMEDIATE MASSIVE ACTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GET THIS DONE.

I THINK THIS WILL BE OUT.

THAT'S AN AWESOME THING TO DO BECAUSE I LIKE, UH, MR. FRANK, THEY SAID THAT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY WILL BE HERE AT SOME OF US WILL BE GONE.

AND SO IT IS NOT THE TIME THAT WE STARTED GETTING THEM INVOLVED BECAUSE OF WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, THEY ARE, THEY ARE THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW.

SO I JUST WENT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

AND ALSO, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE AWARE TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO IT.

YOU HAVE THE RADIO STATIONS.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE GAS STATIONS, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK OUT OF THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, WHO KNOW HOW TO GET IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE.

YOU HAVE TO PUT FLYERS OUT HOW THEN EVERY WAY THAT'S CREATIVE.

AND ONCE YOU HAVE TO DEVON THAT WE HAVE A YOUTH CONFERENCE THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST IT AND THEY PUT IT ON A BALLOT.

I MEAN, YOU JUST HAVE TO GET CREATIVE, CREATIVE AND MAKE IT, MAKE IT THE HOUSE NOT DISAPPEARED THOUGH, BUT SHOW PEOPLE THAT SHE WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT CAN TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE YOU AND PUT IT INTO AN ACTION.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE.

UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THIS BOARD DOES WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I'M SURE THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL BE GLAD TO ASSIST, ASSIST YOU ON THAT.

I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM ME AS BEING A LEADER OF DISTRICT THREE.

I DO NOT SPEAK ON THE BOARD, BUT HAPPY SHOPPING.

I'M SURE THAT WE ARE, HE WILL, HE WILL WALK I'VE GIVEN THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AT THIS? YOU HAVE A SMITH, MR. MERCHANT.

THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.

ROB, COULD YOU COME BACK FOR A SECOND

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I, I TH MY OPINION HERE, AND YOU ALL SPEAK UP THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY OR NOT.

UM, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF VERY INSTRUCTIONAL, UH, MEANING AND AN INTENT OF STRENGTHENING THE PLAN THROUGH A DIVERSE REPRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF PERSON, UH, SURVEY, UH, WHETHER IT BE AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL OR BE IN THE COMMUNITIES.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE CONSULTANT OR THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO DELVE FURTHER INTO FURTHER SURVEYING THOSE PARTICULAR INTERESTS, BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY THINK IT'D BE ADVISABLE TO DO THAT.

SO I THAT'S MY INPUT.

ANYBODY ELSE'S SECOND THAT YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT OR, YEAH, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK.

I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS HERE.

THERE WE GO.

I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE I'LL DONATE.

I'LL DONATE THE POSTERS AND HOPEFULLY PUBLIC.

SOME OF THE PUBLIC'S LISTENING THAT IT TIES INTO THIS AND IT FEELS THE SAME WAY THE FOLKS GET AS WELL.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH ALL THIS EFFORT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THIS PLAN MANDATED BY THE STATE IS TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY FOR THE CITIZENS OF BUFORD COUNTY HERE NOW AND HERE, HOPEFULLY TOMORROW.

SO THANK YOU, ROB.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

UM,

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I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

AND, UH, THE LAST THING I HAD IS THE CHAIRMAN'S REPORT.

I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT AT THIS POINT.

I'M GLAD WE DON'T HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT THE RAPE.

THERE WAS A, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN APA CONFERENCE GOING ON IN THE FIFTH THROUGH SEVENTH, I THINK THREE OR FOUR OF US ARE SIGNED UP TO ATTEND IT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF VERY, VERY INTERESTING SUBJECT MATTER IN THAT THREE DAY CONFERENCE.

AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT AND WELL, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A DATE OF THE, CAN WE DO THAT NOW? OR DO YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THE COMMENTS FOR A FURTHER WORKSHOP, WE DO TOUCH IT'S UP TO YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH IT NOW, OR YOU WANT TO, THE LONGER, THE BETTER, THE LONGER WE STRETCH IT OUT, THE BETTER, BECAUSE WE CAN GET TO MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO DO IT NOW.

NO, I'D LIKE TO GET MORE INPUT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO SET A DATE NOW? OH, WELL, YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO SET A DATE NOW, DOES HE REALLY THINK THAT WE'RE READY TO SET THAT DATE NOW WITH ALL THE COMMENTS WE GOT BACK TO THEM, ARE THERE FOR FURTHER, UH, WORKSHOP? WELL, LET'S, UH, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GET IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND NO, WE'LL COME BACK TOGETHER WITHIN A COUPLE OF, WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.