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WE ARE LIVE.

UM, OUR, UM, NOVEMBER TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, IT IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH.

ALL OF COUNCIL IS PRESENT.

UM, ANOTHER ZOOM MEETING.

SO WELCOME EVERYBODY.

LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

UM, WE HAVE THE PRAYER, WHICH I AM UP THIS MONTH.

SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO BOW IN PRAYER WITH ME, PLEASE DO SO LOVINGLY AND GRACIOUS.

GOD, YOU'RE INDEED THE GIVER OF ALL GOOD GIFTS.

AND WE THANK YOU TODAY FOR YOUR BLESSINGS.

YOU HAVE SO GRACIOUSLY BESTOWED UPON THIS WONDERFUL TOWN.

WE CONTINUE TO SEEK YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, COURAGE, AND STRENGTH.

BE WITH US IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND HELP US TO BE WISE IN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL.

THOSE WHO HAVE PLACED THEIR TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR LEADERSHIP.

GIVE US THE INSIGHT TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY THAT OUR DECISIONS MAY REFLECT WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD, HELP US MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE THE GOOD FOR THE GOOD OF ALL, AND HELP US TO TREAT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.

DEAR LORD, GRANT US THE HUMILITY TO ALWAYS SEEK YOUR WILL AND ALL THAT WE DO AND SAY IN THIS, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

UM, WE HAVE THE AGENDA.

UM, MR. ORLANDO, IS THERE ANY CHANGE TO THE AGENDA? YES.

MA'AM ONE MINOR CHANGE.

UM, UNDER FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS, SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU SWITCH ITEMS THREE AND TWO.

SO ITEM THREE BECOMES NUMBER TWO AND SO ON.

OKAY.

WILL YOU REMIND ME IF I FORGET THAT AT THE TIME? YES.

OKAY.

UM, WITH THAT CHANGE, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA HAS CHANGED YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER MEETING OF BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 13TH.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT SOME OF OUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

WE HAVE PRESENTATION, CELEBRATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, AND FIRST AND FOREMOST IS OUR RECOGNITION OF CAPTAIN SCOTT CHANDLER.

AND I THINK HE IS ON THE CALL.

DO I SEE YOU CAPTAIN? HERE YOU ARE.

SO WE WERE TALKING A BIT AGO, CAPTAIN, THAT I THINK YOU STARTED ABOUT THE TOWN AND I WAS ELECTED MAYOR.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH OUR POLICE FORCE? SINCE 2006, 2006.

SO BEFORE I ONE, I WAS ON COUNCIL AND YOU HAVE JUST KIND OF BEEN OUR STEADY BOAT IN THE NIGHT.

YOU JUST, FOR A WHILE NOW, YOU HANG AROUND AND YOU JUST KNOW THAT LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, AND YOU KEEP THAT AS YOUR GUIDE AND WE'VE WATCHED YOUR FAMILY GROW AND JUST REALLY HAVE SEEN YOU GROW AS A PERSON IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND TO STEP UP, NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE AS AN INTERIM DURING SOME AMAZINGLY STRENUOUS TIMES, HURRICANE PANDEMIC, YOU JUST NAME IT AND YOU WERE JUST SUCH A GOOD ROLE MODEL FOR OUR OFFICERS AND JUST KEPT THE COURSE.

AND REALLY WE WANTED TO THANK YOU.

WE HAVE NO MONEY TO GIVE YOU.

SO JUST WANTED A MINUTE.

IF ANY OF COUNCIL WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, FEEL FREE, BUT JUST WANTED TO LET THE PEOPLE WATCHING TONIGHT, JUST KNOW HOW THANKFUL WE ARE FOR YOU.

AND, UM, YOU JUST MAKE US BETTER.

THANK YOU, MONICA.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, ONE TO, UH, SERVE THE CITIZENS IN THIS CAPACITY, BUT ALSO TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE WONDERFUL MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN OR DITTO OR FEEL FREE AT THIS TIME? THIS IS TO MAKE DEBATE, EMBARRASS HIM.

I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO HIM AND THANKED HIM AND, UH, HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB AS HE DID BEFORE, PRIOR.

AND, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE AND BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO STEP UP.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

SAME THING, SCOTT.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

UM, CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT TO YOUR FARM SO I CAN COME OUT THERE AND HELP YOU DO SOMETHING.

ABSOLUTELY.

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NO, A LOT OF STUFF TO DO.

YEAH.

I WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

I CAN GIVE YOU ALL THIS MYRA.

SO WAIT TO SEE ON TOP OF THE TRACTOR, THEY'RE PUSHING SOME DIRT AROUND, HEY, I CAN GET ON THAT TRACTOR.

I CAN DO THAT.

SO ANYONE ELSE I ALSO WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU.

YOU DIDN'T LET ME DOWN.

HEY SIR.

IT MEANS A LOT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

SEDIMENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM AND WE DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT.

SO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL BUSY, BUT PLEASE KNOW, AND I THINK THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THAT DEPARTMENT KNOW HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT THEM.

IT'S NOT OFTEN SAID AND WE NEED TO DO MORE.

THANKS AND, UM, APPRECIATION.

WE ALL DO.

SO WE DO, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OH, GOOD.

OKAY.

I'LL GET MY, WE CALLED HIM, UH, UH, CHIEF FISH FOR ABOUT EIGHT NOW.

HE'S CAPTAIN SO WELL, GOOD.

WELL THANK YOU MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE OUR BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT OF THE MONTH AND I BELIEVE KIM SAID HE MAY BE CALLING IN, ARE, IS HE IN KIM? YES, HE'S IN THE WAITING ROOM.

VARIOUS HE'S CONNECTING RIGHT NOW.

SO WHILE HE'S CONNECTING, UM, ANY MAY NOT KNOW, WE'RE TALKING, HE MIGHT INTERRUPT US, BUT THAT'S FINE.

WE'VE DONE THIS EVERY MONTH, UM, FOR WHAT FIVE, FOUR, FOUR YEARS OR SO.

AND IN THE CHARACTER EDUCATION, UM, KIND OF PROGRAM THAT THE BOARD PUT TOGETHER, UH, UNDER THE PAST SUPERINTENDENT AND WE JUST LOVE CELEBRATING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND WANTED TO TAKE IT A NEXT LEVEL AND DO OUR OWN CELEBRATION TO OUR STUDENTS.

SO THE CLUSTER OF BLUFFTON, WHICH IS ALMOST HALF, IF NOT MORE OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FALLS INTO BLUFFTON.

SO ALL OF THOSE KIDS GET BUNDLED IN A POOL AND TEACHERS CAN RECOGNIZE AND NOMINATE THEM FOR A CHARACTER TRAIT EACH MONTH.

AND WE'VE MISSED IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF COVID.

BUT REALLY THIS IS STARTING TO SEE, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO SOME TYPE OF NORMALCY.

UH, WE'VE GOT OUR STUDENT OF THE MONTH THIS MONTH AND LASHA ARE YOU ON IF YOU'RE, HOW ARE YOU? CAN Y'ALL SEE HIM? UH, LASHA ELI OR ELIJAH? UM, MY NAME'S ELIJAH, BUT I GO BY ELI.

WELL, LET'S GO BY ELI.

LET'S SEE YOUR STATE SHIRT.

WHAT ARE YOU WEARING? THIS IS FOR WRESTLING STATE CHAMPIONSHIP FOR WRESTLING THIS YEAR.

THAT'S AWESOME.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU'RE A SENIOR AT MAY RIVER AND YOUR CHARACTER TRAIT WAS ACCEPTANCE AND I'M THRILLED TO SEE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT GET THIS CAUSE YOU'RE BUNDLED IN WITH ALL THESE YOUNG ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO LIKE IT'S A GOAL OF THEIRS TO GET ONE OF THESE CHARACTER TRAITS.

SO I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T FEEL TOO BUSY OR TOO COOL NOT TO REALIZE THAT CHARACTER'S IMPORTANT.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK, DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU WERE GIVEN THIS RECOGNITION AT MAY RIVER? OH, I KNOW ONE OF MY COACHES NOMINATED ME FOR IT AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL, VERY THANKFUL TO RECEIVE THIS.

WOW.

IT MEANS A LOT TO US.

I'M GOING TO READ A LITTLE BIT, UM, USUALLY WE HAVE YOU UP AND WE GIVE YOU A, UM, COIN, WHICH WE WILL GET TO YOU IN A CERTIFICATE.

UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.

I THINK YOU GET TO MEET US ON COUNCIL.

ANY OF US WOULD WRITE LETTERS OF REFERENCE FOR YOU.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET TO KNOW OTHER STUDENTS.

SO, UM, I'M TO, CAN I READ A LITTLE BIT? YES, MA'AM NO PROBLEM.

OKAY.

IT BASICALLY, UM, ELI DID, THIS IS FROM, I GUESS YOUR COACH ELI DESERVES A NOMINATION FOR MAY RIVERS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT OF THE MONTH AWARD DUE TO THE WAY HE WELCOMED NEW STUDENT TO OUR SCHOOL AND FOOTBALL TEAM.

WE HAD A NEW SENIOR FROM MICHIGAN JOIN OUR TEAM A WEEK AFTER PRACTICE, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE NEW KID, ESPECIALLY DURING YOUR SENIOR YEAR.

ELI IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO THE NEW PLAYER AND WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE THE STUDENT FEEL INCLUDED ON THE TEAM.

HE CONTINUED TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, HE HELPED THE NEW PLAYER WITH HIS TRANSITION ACADEMICALLY, ATHLETICALLY AND SOCIALLY, WITHOUT LEE ELI SHOWING ACCEPTANCE TOWARDS THE NEW KID.

THE STUDENT MAY HAVE HAD A MORE DIFFICULT TIME WITH HIS TRANSITION, THE WAY ELI GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO INCLUDE OTHERS, EXEMPLIFIES THE MEANING OF ACCEPTANCE AND TRUE LEADERSHIP.

AND, YOU KNOW, ELIDE, THAT WAS FROM MAY RIVER, BUT IT WAS BUNDLED IN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER NOMINATIONS.

AND YOU JUST AREN'T THE MAY RIVER, A STUDENT OF THE MONTH.

YOU'RE THE WHOLE BLUFFTON SCHOOL CLUSTER.

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SO CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? UM, I JUST WANT US TO SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM, HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.

IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

AND LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP WITH COLLEGE AND I JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT ALL.

WELL, YOU'RE APPRECIATED.

LET'S GIVE HIM A HAND, A ZOOM VIRTUAL HAND.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL, BUT I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE HOMEWORK TO DO.

YES.

MA'AM SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT.

WELL, THANK YOU, ELI.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.

YES, MA'AM THANK YOU TOO.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE PROCLAMATIONS AND THEY ARE AFAR, UH SMOKE-FREE AND BAIT FREE AWARENESS AND ALSO NO TO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

THESE ARE ALL, UH, AWARENESS MONTHS FOR THOSE TWO AREAS AND A GROUP OF STUDENTS, UM, OF ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS, UH, LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH, UH, HAD THESE PROCLAMATIONS.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE VERY IMPORTANT, AND PLEASE READ THEM.

UM, THE NEXT IS NUMBER FIVE, A PANDEMIC COVID UPDATE FROM SCOTT.

YOU WANT TO GIVE US ANY UPDATE ON THAT? SCOTT, IF YOU'RE TALKING YOU'RE ON MUTE, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE.

OKAY.

UM, COUNSEL HAD ASKED LAST MONTH WHEN WE UPDATED OUR EMERGENCY ORDINANCES FOR AN UPDATE ON THE COVID NUMBERS.

AND SO WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT, UH, ARE SOME NUMBERS TO REFLECT WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.

SO BEFORE WE GET TO BLUFFTON ZIP CODES, WHICH IS WHAT WAS ASKED FOR, I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE OF THE GRAPHIC YOU SAW LAST MONTH.

THIS IS THE DIFFERENT COUNTY TWO WEEK INCIDENTS RATE OF NUMBER OF COVID CASES REPORTED PER 100,000 POPULATION.

SO JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, WHEN YOU FIRST IMPLEMENTED THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE REQUIRING FACE COVERAGE ON JULY ONE, WHICH WAS AROUND THIS DATE, WE WERE AROUND 336 CASES PER 100,000 POPULATION.

THE LATEST TWO WEEK PERIOD THAT'S CLOSED AND BEAVER COUNTY IS NOVEMBER 4TH AND WE'RE AT 132 CASES PER 100,000 POPULATION.

IF WE BREAK THAT DOWN TO THE D HECK UH, THREAT LEVEL, IF YOU WILL, UH, WE ARE STILL IN THE MODERATE CATEGORY NOW FOR A LOOK AT THE BLUFFTON ZIP CODES.

THIS CHART PROVIDES THE NUMBER OF REPORTED CASES IN ZIP CODES TO NINE, NINE OH NINE AND TWO NINE NINE ONE ZERO AND TWO WEEK INCREMENTS THAT COINCIDE WITH THE DATES ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AGAIN, TO HELP PUT THESE NUMBERS IN CONTEXT ON JULY ONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WERE 34 CASES IN TWO NINE, NINE OH NINE AND 184 CASES IN TWO NINE, NINE ONE OH FOR A TOTAL OF 208, 218 CASES.

THE LATEST NUMBERS FOR THE TWO WEEK PERIOD ENDING NOVEMBER 4TH, SHOW 33 CASES IN TWO NINE, NINE OH NINE 85 CASES INTO NINE NINE ONE ZERO FOR A TOTAL OF 118 ACTIVE COVID CASES.

SO THOUGH YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS OF CASES SPIKED IN MID TO LATE JULY AROUND THIS TIMEFRAME.

WE'RE BACK INTO A MODERATE INCIDENCE RATE.

HOWEVER, THE NUMBERS ARE TRENDING UPWARD AGAIN, AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE NEED TO REMAIN VIGILANT JUST AS A REMINDER WHERE THE TWO NINE, NINE ONE ZERO AND TWO NINE, NINE OH NINE, ZIP CODES RESIDE.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT ON THIS? IS IT SOMETHING MORE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON WHAT HE PRESENTED THIS? WHAT COULD YOU PUT THAT MAP BACK UP THERE? JUST FOR A SECOND, SCOTT, JUST THAT WHERE IT SEPARATES THE AREA CODES.

I MEAN THE ZIP CODES, RIGHT? SO THAT THE THERE'S TWO PINK COLORS HERE.

SO WHERE'S THAT TWO NINE, NINE OH NINE TWO NINE NINE NINE IS EVERYTHING THAT'S PINK, BUT THE SHADED PINK IS THE TWO NINE, NINE ZERO THAT'S IN TOWN LIMITS.

SO IT'S THIS AREA I GOT YOU.

IT WAS JUST UP THERE FOR A FLASH.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S MY TWO

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NINE ONE ZERO IN THE TOWN LIMITS AGAIN IS, IS THE SHADED AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE BRIGHT GREEN AREAS ARE GOING TO HOLES.

THAT'S THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR TOWN IS IN TWO NINE, NINE ONE ZERO.

OKAY.

THE LIGHT PINK IS THIS THE TOWN.

THIS IS IN TOWN.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BREAK IT DOWN, BUT IN TOWN AND OUT OF THE COUNTY, JUST BY ZIP CODE, YOU'RE JUST SHOWING US THIS TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE SOME IN TOWN.

THAT'S CORRECT.

MA'AM AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT TO RAISE.

I BELIEVE BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO NINE, NINE ZERO NINE, ZIP CODE ENCOMPASSES, UH, SUN CITY IS A VERY DENSE POPULATION AREA.

THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE TOWN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT ON THIS? YES, SCOTT, THIS IS LIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

FIRST GRAPH.

YOU SHOWED US VERSUS THE SECOND GRAPH.

THIS ONE.

YES.

THIS IS A DX TWO-WEEK INCIDENT RATE, UH, IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.

AND THIS IS, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR BUFORD COUNTY.

AND THESE ARE OUR, THE NUMBER OF COVID CASES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED PER A 100,000 POPULATION.

SO IS THE SAME, THE SECOND SLIDE.

THE SECOND SLIDE IS A ZIP CODE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME CORRELATION WITH THE SHAPE OF THE DATA, RIGHT? UH, BUT, BUT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS OF REPORTED CASES IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD WITHIN THESE ZIP CODES.

SO THE ORANGE REPRESENTS THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WERE REPORTED IN THE BLUE IS TWO NINE, NINE ONE ZERO.

AND TOGETHER THE AGGREGATE IS THE TOP MEMBER.

SO THE PERCENTAGES OF THIS SECOND ONE IS HIGHER THAN THE FIRST.

IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION? DIFFERENCE, PERCENTAGE.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

SO IF YOU DIVIDE THE TOTAL OF, UM, UH, ONE 14 OR ONE 19 AT THE THREE 31, AND THEN YOU DO THE SAME THING ON THE OTHER SLIDE, IT'S A HIGHER PERCENTAGE ON THE SECOND SLIDE.

AND MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION DIFFERENCE THAT WOULD HAVE ATTRACTED BECAUSE OF THE HIGHEST NUMBERS IN THE COUNTY, UM, HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE BLUFFTON ZIP CODES OF TWO NINE, (900) 982-9910 FOR THE DURATION OF THE PANDEMIC.

SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT PERCENTAGE WISE, YOU WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE ON THE SECOND SLIDE IN THE FIRST SIDE OF THE FIRST SLIDE IS ALL BEAVER COUNTY, BUT THE SECOND SLIDE IS JUST (299) 092-9910.

UH, SCOTT, UM, JUST MAYBE HELPFUL IF YOU DO THIS EVERY MONTH, MAYBE LET THE GRAPHS SHOW LIKE ON THE BLUFFTON ZIP CODES VERSUS THE COUNTY WIDE, WHERE THAT MODERATE LEVEL IT WOULD HELP CAUSE THE LINE GRAPHS BIGGER THAN THE OTHER.

AND I JUST COULDN'T REALLY, OR IF YOU COULD PUT IT SIDE BY SIDE SO WE COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER TOP OF THE MIRROR.

UM, YES.

TO CLARIFY THAT THE GRAPH THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS THE ONE THAT YOU PREFER TO, TO, TO VIEW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL ON THIS.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

AND I THINK LET'S KEEP THIS KIND OF TENTATIVELY TO DO IF YOU CAN UPDATE IT, UM, EVERY TWO WEEKS FOR A WHOLE MONTH.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT IN YOUR PACKETS EVERY MONTH AS WELL.

THANKS SO MUCH.

UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT IS THREE MINUTES.

IT'S DONE ELECTRONICALLY, UH, RIGHT NOW.

AND OUR TOWN CLERK TAKES THEM TWO HOURS BEFORE COUNCIL AND SHE READS THEM.

AND SO FAR SHE'S READ VERY, VERY LONG ONES AND IT'S MADE IT TO THE THREE MINUTE MARK.

UM, KIM, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TONIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY.

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER IN THE FUTURE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL WE GET BACK INTO SOME PERSON TO PERSON MEETING OUR STANDARDS ARE DIFFERENT.

ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENT STANDARDS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THE ONES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED ARE ELECTRONICALLY SUBMITTED, SEND THEM TWO HOURS BEFORE COUNCIL.

OUR TOWN CLERK WILL TAKE THEM AND READ THEM, UH, AND PUT THEM IN THE RECORD FOR, FOR FUTURE.

SO MOVING ON TO COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANYTHING FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF GONE.

WHO IS THIS? I CAN'T SEE.

HEY LARRY, THANKS.

UM, JUST, JUST A BRIEF MOMENT, BUT I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF CALLS AND A LOT OF INQUIRIES ABOUT THE MISHAP WITH A SEWAGE SPILL THAT WE HAVE AIRED IN THE LAST WEEK OR 10 DAYS, WHATEVER IT'S BEEN NOW.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT, THE RESPONSE TIME

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WAS, WAS VERY MUCH UNACCEPTABLE.

AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT SAID THAT, THAT REACHED ME AND SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO CALL OR WHAT TO DO BECAUSE IT WAS SUNDAY AND ALL THAT.

I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THEY COULD CALL ME 24 HOURS A DAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND I WILL INVESTIGATE AND I WILL GET SOMETHING MOVING ON IT BEFORE REGULAR NINE HOUR NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BUSINESS HOURS WORK, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A TEAM EFFORT FROM ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

WHEN THEY NOTICE SOMETHING CONTACT, THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT TIME OF NIGHT IT IS OR WHATEVER, BUT JUST BE VIGILANT ON, YOU KNOW, STOPPING IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'M PUTTING MYSELF OUT THERE.

IT'S MY DESIRE TO HELP STOP SOMETHING WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING WRONG.

AND YOU CAN CALL ME, I ANSWER MY PHONE MORE AT NIGHT WHEN I HEAR IT, THEN I MAY IN THE DAYTIME, BUT JUST, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT.

SO, AND THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO DID CALL AND REPORT IT BEFORE IT GOT WORSE THAN WHAT IT WAS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, LARRY.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM MAYOR COUNCIL? UM, I THINK ALL OF US JUMP DITTO THAT LARRY, I THINK PEOPLE DID EMAIL OUR TEXTS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF US ON COUNCIL.

UM, THINGS TEND TO HAPPEN ON WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

I REMEMBER YEARS AND YEARS AGO, UH, MAYOR JOHNSON'S DRIVING DOWN, UM, RED, CEDAR, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE SEES TREES COMING DOWN AND HE JUMPS OUT OF HIS CAR AND STANDS IN FRONT OF A TREE REMOVING DEVICE AND, UM, CALLED IN HER TOWN MANAGER AT THE TIME, CAME OUT AND STOPPED IT.

SO JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN, WE AUTOMATICALLY KNOW WHEN WE NEED ALL EYES AND EARS ON THE GROUND, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIVER, BUT MANY OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

UH, SO BART IS ALWAYS ANSWERS THE PHONE WHEN WE CALL HIM.

AND IF, IF IT'S BETTER TO CALL US, WE CAN CALL, CALL MARK AND HE CAN GET ON IT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL HELPFUL? I'LL ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW TIME TO MEET NEXT MONTH.

WE'RE GOING TO MEET AT FIVE.

UM, BOB, WE'RE DOING ZOOM AND MARK'S LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS IN JANUARY, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR, OUR ORDINANCE ON ELECTRONIC MEETINGS OF HOW TO BRING SOME SOLUTIONS ZONE, GETTING BACK TO MEETING IN PERSON AND ZOOM, KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HYBRID FOR THOSE WHO JUST AREN'T COMFORTABLE YET.

UM, AT LEAST KNOWING THAT IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION, THERE WAYS TO MEET BY ZOOM AND TO MEET IN PERSON.

SO WE'LL WAIT FOR MARK TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS ON THAT, BUT I THINK FOR THE MEANTIME THIS MONTH, AND NEXT MONTH WE'LL CONTINUE THE WAY WE'RE GOING.

UM, IT'S WORKED VERY WELL, BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO SEE EACH OTHER AS WELL.

SO WE LOOK FOR MARK ON THOSE IDEAS.

UM, LAST CALL, ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

MOVING ON TO WORKSHOP ITEMS, A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

IT IS OWN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FIVE, HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS RELATING TO BUILDING TYPES, MAXIMUM BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND HEIGHT.

HEATHER, YOU ARE OKAY.

CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT? AND HEAR ME? I HOPE IT LOOKS GOOD.

OKAY.

SO AS YOU STATED, THIS IS A WORKSHOP ITEM FOR, UM, UDL POSSIBLE UDL AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE BUILDING SIZE IN THE OLD TOWN, BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO AS YOU MAY BE AWARE WITH THE INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC CONCERN REGARDING THE OVERALL MASS AND SCALING OF BUILDINGS.

UM, WE'VE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, HPRC THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMISSION, AS WELL AS I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN PUBLIC COMMENT PRESENTED TO TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF BUILDING SIZE AND BUILDING TYPES, WHICH I'LL GET INTO.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT I WOULD REQUEST IS DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT AMENDMENTS TO THE UDL MAY BE NECESSARY.

SORRY, JUST A COUPLE OF, UM, BACKGROUND NOTES ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND INTENT STATEMENTS FROM BOTH THE OLD POUND MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN NOTES THAT THE OLD TOWN'S CHARACTER IS ITS FRANCHISE.

AND IT'S KEY TO THE ECONOMY, UM, FURTHER THAN PROVIDES A UNIFIED VISION FOR OLD TOWN THAT GUIDES POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE THEN TRANSLATED TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THAT,

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AS YOU KNOW, THE UTO HAS, UM, BEEN AMENDED RECENTLY, AND THAT IS INCLUDED SOME CHANGES TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY TO SOME ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, SUCH AS SHUTTERS, SHUTTER DETAILS, AND MATERIALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS WELL AS MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WE RECENTLY HEARD ABOUT BUILDING SIZE.

THERE ARE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WITHIN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS, THEY ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES AND THOSE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, AS WELL AS BUILDING SIZES.

AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN CONCERN STATED THAT SOME OF THOSE MAXIMUMS MAY BE TOO LARGE FOR THE OLD TOWN AND AS YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY WHERE WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW AND REFINE THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S IN KEEPING WITH THE VISION AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

SO YOU'VE HEARD FROM ME SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THE ETL RECENTLY.

AND SO THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY DO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S ALIGNED AND MEETING AT COUNCIL'S GOALS AND DIRECTIVES.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THOSE BUILDING SIZES.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, THERE'S THE MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE UTO AS WELL AS SHOPFRONT AREAS AND HOW BUILDINGS SHOULD BE DESIGNED FOR SHOPFRONT AREAS AS WELL AS A PROVISION FOR LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDINGS.

AGAIN, LIKE I STATED, THERE'S FIVE SEPARATE, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER NEIGHBORHOOD, GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION AND THE RIVERFRONT EDGE, THE BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

THEY'RE THE MORE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW, UM, A VAST ARRAY OF LAND USES AS WELL AS BUILDING SIZES, THEN NEIGHBORHOOD CORE.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP IN A MOMENT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE IS THE INTENT OF THAT.

AND THE PURPOSE STATEMENT IS THAT THAT'S THE COMMERCIAL HEART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROMENADE IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

THEN THERE'S ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DISTRICT AND THAT IS MORE MODERATE INTENSITY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT INCLUDES PORTIONS OF CALHOUN STREET BOUNDARY STREETS, SOUTH OF MAY RIVER AND NORTH OF BRIDGE IS HERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT, UM, HEAVY DASHED BLACK LINE SHOWS THE LIMITS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

YOU'LL SEE UP HERE, IF YOU CAN SEE MY PURPLE POINTER, THAT'S THAT, UH, DISTRICT THAT I REFERRED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CORE AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, EXCUSE ME, OTHER WAY AROUND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERED NEIGHBORHOOD CORE.

YEAH.

SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS THE MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE.

THE MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE IS WITHIN THEIR FORM-BASED CODE.

THAT'S A BUILDING TYPE THAT'S PERMITTED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERED DISTRICTS.

THAT BUILDING TYPE ALLOWS THE LARGEST BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF ALL BUILDING TYPES.

SO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT OR NUTS HAS A MAXIMUM OF 3,500 SQUARE FEET FOR THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

SO WHAT ACTUALLY TOUCHES THE GROUND THAT IMPACT TO THE GROUND.

IT ALSO HAS A, UM, BUILDING SIZE RANGE FROM 2000 SQUARE FEET TO A MAXIMUM OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO JUST DOING SOME QUICK MATH, THAT COULD MEAN IF YOU WERE TO MAX OUT ON YOUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT AT 3,500 SQUARE FEET, YOU COULD GO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF STORIES.

AND THEN JUST FOR REFERENCE, UM, THE NEW BUILDING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON CHURCH STREET NEXT TO THE, UH, LEFT IN GENERAL STORE, THAT IS A MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE.

THAT BUILDING TYPE WAS BUILT WITH A FOOTPRINT OF 1,892 SQUARE FEET FOR FOOTPRINTS WITH A BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 4,745.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE OF HOW THAT MAY LOOK IN THE REAL WORLD, ALSO ANOTHER PROVISION IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES SIZE AND, UM, GOT MASSING AND SCALING OF BUILDINGS AND THAT'S THE SHOPFRONT AREAS.

SO WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, THE SHOP FRONT BUILDINGS AND SHOP FRONT AREAS IS ANOTHER DESIGN COMPONENT.

A LOT OF THE DESIGN COMPONENTS, UM, TO DO WITH THIS ARE MORE TO DO WITH THAT PEDESTRIAN SCALE, UH, WINDOWS, DOORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, ONE THING THAT STAFF HAS SEEN AND WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO YOU AS A WORKSHOP ITEM IS THAT IF THAT MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE BECOMES MORE PREVALENT TO MAX OUT YOUR BUILDING SIZE, THAT IT MAY BECOME, UM, IT COULD CHANGE THAT CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

ANOTHER PROVISION IN THE VIDEO THAT RELATES TO BUILDING SIZE IS LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDINGS.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS WITH OVERALL DESIGN, BUT THERE IS CRITERIA IN THE STUDIO THAT DOES ADDRESS LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDINGS.

AND THAT'S LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN, UM, IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HEIGHT, HOW IT IS, UM, SITUATED ON A BLOCK AS WELL AS WHERE THE BACK OF HOUSE LOADING DOCK SERVICE AREAS ARE ALL POSITIONED.

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OKAY, NEXT STEP.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING THIS EVENING IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD LIKE TOWN STAFF TO REVISIT THOSE VARIOUS BUILDING TYPES.

UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, OR EVEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHERE THEY ARE PERMITTED IN THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THAT MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIZE AND FOOTPRINT, UM, IF YOU DO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD ENGAGE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT, WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT THE VIDEO SPEAKS TO AS FAR AS THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM.

AND WE HAVE COMPILED A LOT OF INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT RECENTLY.

HOWEVER, THIS TIME I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF I WERE TO COME BACK TO YOU, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY WORK ON AN ANALYSIS TO MEET, MEET ANY DIRECTION THAT YOU PROVIDE THIS EVENING.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO UL AT, AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO ANY SLIDES.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, AT THIS POINT, JUST WANT TO REALLY FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED RECENTLY SHOULD, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT MORE UDL AMENDMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THAT OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN AND MEETING THE GOALS AND DIRECTIVES OF COUNCIL QUESTIONS OF HEATHER, THIS, THIS A WORKSHOP.

SO SHE'S TAKEN ALL THE COMMENTS.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE VOTING ON, BUT SHE NEEDS OUR ADVICE TO MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH, I GUESS I'LL START.

UM, HEATHER, YES.

THE, IN MY OPINION, THAT THE SIZES DO NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THERE I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT UNHAPPY FOLKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CORNER OF BRIDGE AND CALVIN.

UM, SO I GUESS ALL YOU'RE OUT, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, BUT, UM, SHOULD THEY BE LOOKED AT, AND IS THAT TOO MANY EGGS IN A DOZEN CARTON? IN MY OPINION, YES.

SO THAT IT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE A COUPLE, BUT I'LL WAIT, LET EVERYONE ELSE GO, MAYOR, I'LL JUMP IN.

I'M LIKE LARRY AND YOU AND EVERYONE, WE ALL HAD SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST IN, AND MAYBE I'M INCORRECT, BUT I THOUGHT PREDOMINANTLY THE ISSUE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AREA, NOT NECESSARILY THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AREA, UM, WHICH I, I, I, I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AREA.

UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CORE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DESTINED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIALIZED AS FAR AS SCALE WITH LIKE THE PROMINENT RIGHT THERE AND THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WENT UP.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY TAKE ON IT.

UM, LET IT GO WITH THAT GOOD FEEDBACK FOR HEATHER, ANYONE ELSE AT THE MOMENT, I'LL JUMP IN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS AND GET, MAYBE GET OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINKING.

UM, I HEARD OVER THE PAST YEARS WHEN I WATCHED HPC, YOU HAVE, UM, ARCHITECTS THAT COME WITH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD VARIATION.

SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT IF WE CHANGE OUR CHANGING FOOTPRINT OTHER THE WAY I THINK WE NEED TO BE MUCH SMALLER, MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, 2000 TO 2,500 FOOTPRINT AND MAYBE MAX IT OUT AT SQUARE FOOTAGE AROUND 4,500, JUST A THOUGHT, BUT CAN SOMEBODY COME IN AND SAY, OH, WE HAVE A VARIATION OF THIS PLAN.

WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT DO? AND CAN WE HAVE A MAX ON ANY VARIATIONS OF PLANS AS WELL? IF WE CHANGE THIS, YOU CAN ANSWER TO JUST TAKE IT AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S ACTUALLY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE FEEDBACK ON THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR THAT A DEVIATION OR VARIATION FROM, UM, BUILDING TYPES.

AND ONE THING THAT THEY, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT FALL INTO WHAT'S CONSIDERED AS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE AND THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE, UM, I THINK IS A GREAT TOOL.

IT'S VERY USEFUL TO, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T QUITE FIT IN THAT FORM-BASED CODE BOX AND YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE OTHER RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

UM, IT JUST KIND OF FALLS INTO PLACE WHEN YOU APPLY ALL THOSE OTHER RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO WE COULD, UM, TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND LOOK AT THAT BUILDING TYPE AS WELL AS THOSE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE MAIN, I JUST HIGHLIGHT ON THOSE TWO DISTRICTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THAT MAIN STREET BUILDING TYPE IS ALLOWED AND THAT'S OUR LARGEST, UM, BUILDING TYPE IN THE UDL.

SO WE CAN

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CERTAINLY LOOK AT, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT STAFF CONTINUE TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW.

AND THEN WE CAN AGAIN, PUT THE, PUT THE NUMBERS TO THE PICTURE OUT THERE IN THE REAL WORLD.

WELL, I WOULD JUST CANNOT SUGGESTION ON THAT IS WHATEVER WE SET, ANY OTHER BUILDING TYPES SHOULD NOT BE HIGHER OR A LARGER FOOTPRINT.

IT SHOULD HAVE THAT CAP IS THE SAME.

UM, THE OTHER THING I THINK, I DUNNO, I, I'M CURIOUS WHAT IT LOOK LIKE OVERALL AT.

I'VE HAD THIS CONCERN FOR A WHILE NOW.

JUST HOW, WHAT IS THE TIPPING POINT OF COMMERCIAL? YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START SEEING D SHOP FRONTS? NOT THAT WE CAN DICTATE EVERYTHING, BUT HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH COMMERCIAL? HOW BIG DO WE WANT TO GET TO CHANGE THE WHOLE LOOK OF OUR TOWN? WHICH, WHICH SCARES ME SOME SOMETIMES A LOT, UM, SEEING WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN GRANTED AND IT'S BEEN GRANTED BECAUSE OF OUR UDO'S.

SO, UM, I THINK SO I'M GONNA END IT YES.

TO EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID, BUT, BUT DO LOOK AT THAT DEVIATION.

UM, AND I AM DEFINITELY MASS AND SCALE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY A CRITICAL PART OF HPCS DECISION WHERE IF IT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THE STREETSCAPE, I THINK IT'S NO DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FIGURE THAT OUT EITHER, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I HAVE A COMMENT ALSO OR IT LOOKING AT, UM, I LOOKED IN AT EVERYTHING THAT'S LISTED HERE, HAS IT, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT, UH, TALKS ABOUT OR ADDRESSES PARKING.

CAUSE I KNOW WE ARE FOCUSED ON LIKE THE SCALE AND SIZE OF THE STRUCTURES GOING UP, BUT A CONCERN TOO IS WHAT ALL THE STRUCTURES GOING OUT AND SEEING THAT, UM, WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE SPACE AND THINGS FOR PARKING.

IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME OR KIDS, SOME CONSIDERATION BE PUT INTO, UM, INTO THE, THE PLANE OR THE NEW UDL AND HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF WHERE WHERE'S THIS PARKING GOING TO COME FROM AS, UH, STRUCTURES AND THINGS CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED OR PERMITTED IN THE AREA.

UM, AND CERTAINLY WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT.

UM, THE, THE PARKING WE HAVEN'T AT THIS POINT MADE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES SINCE WE MADE OUR LAST CHANGES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND JUST, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND LET ME MAKE SURE I GET THIS STRAIGHT RESIDENTIAL AND RESTAURANTS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MEET THEIR PARKING, THEIR PARKING, THEIR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS, UH, SIX SPACES PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT.

THE RESIDENTIAL, I DON'T HAVE HANDY.

I APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW AT MY FINGERTIPS, BUT THAT MUST BE, UM, MUST BE MET ON SITE.

SO THEY CANNOT USE ANY PROVISION FOR SHARED PARKING ON STREET PARKING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THOSE SITES.

AND THEN, UM, THERE'S VARIOUS PROVISIONS FOR PARKING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE CODE AND MAKE CHANGES AS WE NEED TO.

SO IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUTURE AMENDMENTS, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

RIGHT.

AND THAT, AND NOT THAT IS SOMETHING JUST TO FOLLOW UP.

UM, BRIDGET, JUST, I THINK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE INCREASED IT GREATLY.

AND I THINK WE'VE JUST STARTED SEEING PROJECTS THIS PAST YEAR THAT ARE HAVING TO CONFORM TO THAT AND THEY CAN'T USE OUR OWN STREET PARKING.

SO I'M CURIOUS HOW THE RECENT PROJECTS WILL ADDRESS THAT AS WELL TO KEEP PARKING ON SITE.

UM, MR. HAMILTON, YOU CHIMED IN TOO AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I KNOW YOU HAD A QUESTION OR THOUGHT, YEAH, I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT AND CONCERNS MORE, MORE, MORE IN LINE WITH CONCERNS THAT OLD TOWN IS NOT STARTING TO BECOME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

USA.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO WE WANT TO BE WHEN THEY GROW UP.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, FUTURE, UM, PLANS FOR THE OLD TOWN AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A DESTINATION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED AS A, WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE TOO MUCH? A CLUSTER IS ALREADY TO ME, UM, BECOMING A PLACE WHERE, UM, WE CAN'T CONTROL THE TRAFFIC, UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO NEED MORE PARKING.

UM, THE TOWN HAS INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY IN PARKING AND, UM, AND MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE WERE SEEING TODAY, EVEN IF THESE DEVELOPERS WANTED TO COME IN, THEY ARE THINKING THEY CAN SHARE SOME OF THE PARKING IS THAT WE ALREADY CREATED.

AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO, TO CONTINUE TO DO TRAFFIC COUNT.

CAUSE WE TAKE THESE IN, WE TAKE THESE, UM, PROJECT ON

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ONE BY ONE AND WE DON'T SEE THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE OVERALL IMPACT WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO TO OUR SMALL DOWNTOWN, UH, AREAS THAT THAT ONE SQUARE MILE IS, IS REALLY COMING.

UM, JUST OVERCROWDED.

SOME SOMEPLACE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN IS ENOUGH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH, THOUGHT WE, YOU KNOW, THIS OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN WAS DONE IN 2004 WHEN WE HAD TO BLANK CANVAS.

I MEAN, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A STREETSCAPE ON MAY RIVER ROAD AND I'VE, I'VE JUST BEEN TOYING WITH THIS IN MY HEAD WHERE, AND I DON'T LIKE TO SAY STUDY, BUT WHERE IS THE TIME OR WHEN IS THE TIME TO BRING BACK THAT GROUP OR SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU'RE GROWING UP.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GROW UP THIS WAY? OR DO YOU WANT TO GROW UP ANOTHER WAY? AND YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE REALLY KNEW WHAT 8,000 SQUARE FEET WAS GOING TO DO ON EVERY LOT IN OLD TOWN, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IT.

AND IT JUST GOES BACK TO MY CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KEEP THE COOLNESS WITHOUT BECOMING ANYWHERE USA? UM, SO I THINK MAYBE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKED THROUGH THESE AND MAYBE GET SOMEONE WHO, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS EVERY DAY TO KIND OF GIVE US A RELOAD.

MAYBE, MAYBE IT IS JOSH MARTIN, MAYBE IT IS DOVER COLE OR SOMEONE ELSE OR SOMEONE ON STAFF.

SO, UM, AND I WILL STATE TOO.

I KNOW I KEEP BRINGING UP WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING READY TO EMBARK AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHICH IS GOING TO BE A VERY INTENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS FOR A GUIDE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

SO, UM, A LOT OF THIS MAY, WE MAY BE ABLE TO KIND OF, UM, PARTNER ALL THOSE EFFORTS TOGETHER AS FAR AS FAR AS THE COMMENTS ABOUT OLD TOWN AND REVISITING THAT, UH, WHOLE TOWN MASTER PLAN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE ARE, WE ARE GETTING READY TO JUMP INTO THAT PROJECT AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

SO THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME IF EVERYONE FEELS THAT WAY, THEN, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO SLOW DOWN, UH, UM, UNTIL WE CATCH UP BECAUSE OF WHAT I, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO JANUARY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME STUFF APPROVED THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE.

YEAH.

I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION OFFLINE JUST ASKING THAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS WORKSHOP AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME FORWARD AND MAYBE WE NEED HEATHER AND MARK TO GET TOGETHER, TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT, WHAT TO DO.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CERTIFIED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO I THINK JUST THE, HIS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FRED, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF TALENTED PEOPLE THAT CAN LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS AND GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT TO DO.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? IS THIS A WORKSHOP ITEM, ANYTHING YOU THINK OF POST MEETING, PLEASE SEND IT TO HIM.

OR IF YOU WOULD JUST LET US ALL THINKING, OR IF HEATHER CAN SEND OUT A RECAP OF ANY SUBJECT, IF ANYONE WATCHING FACE ON A LIVE TONIGHT, IF YOU WERE UNABLE TO GET ON EARLY, IF YOU HAVE FAULTS AND YOU LIVE IN BLUFFTON, PLEASE SEND US, SEND US SOME THOUGHTS AND IDEAS.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

AND, UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT SHOT, BUT WE JUST DON'T THIS TIPPING POINT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE STAY AT A GOOD LEVEL? MAYOR? WHO'S TALKING DAN.

HEY DAN.

YES, BUT FINAL THOUGHT.

UM, ALL GOOD COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE, UM, THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AREA, UH, AND SOME OTHERS, YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A RESTAURANT NOW ON A SIDE STREET, YOU, UH, YOU CAN'T HAVE A CAR LOT OR A PARKING ON A CORNER.

SO THERE'S SOME BUILT IN PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, THE, TO PARKING WE ADDRESSED TWO YEARS AGO AND, UM, DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TWEAKED, BUT I, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T, I HAVE NOT HAD A COMPLAINT ON THAT ISSUE SINCE WE TWEAKED IT.

UM, AND AGAIN, SO WE'VE CAPTURED A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

I THINK I HOPE, UM, THE, THE SCALE AND FOOTPRINT ISSUE, IT JUST CAME TO OUR, UM, TO, INTO OUR CROSS SITES.

IT'S NEW TO US.

AND, UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO REMEMBER

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WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND THERE ARE SOME BUILT IN PROTECTIONS.

AND THEN, UM, YOU SEE WHERE WE COME OUT AFTER WE REVIEW ALL OF THIS.

AND I DO THINK IT'S TIME FOR A REVIEW.

LIKE YOU, YOU MENTIONED MAYOR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I HAD A QUESTION AND I AGREE THE CORNER PARKING LOT, ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID.

UM, AND MAYBE THIS IS A TERRY QUESTION.

THIS IS, THIS IS A CRAZY TIME.

AND WE SEE IT EVERYWHERE IS JUST REAL ESTATE IS OFF THE CHARTS.

HOW CAN WE HOLD OFF ON ANY NEW, UM, PLANS UNTIL WE FIGURE THIS OUT ON, ON A BUILDING TYPE ON SOMETHING SO LARGE AND MASSIVE THAT IF YOU SEE IT IN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER BLOCK DOWN THE ROAD, IT WILL CHANGE THE LOOK THAT SO MANY PEOPLE PUT THEIR TIME AND ENERGY AND MAKING SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? OKAY.

MAYOR, THIS IS TERRY.

UM, MORATORIUMS ARE VERY DIFFICULT AND THEY'RE LOOKED AT, UM, VERY, UM, NOT HARSHLY, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY BY ANY TYPE OF COURT.

SO MORATORIUM IS ONE ISSUE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO TIE IT TO THE LACK OF PROVIDING SOME FUNDAMENTAL SERVICE, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE A MORATORIUM, HAVE ANY LEGS ON IT.

UM, THAT WOULD BE ONE, UM, ASPECT TWO WOULD BE TO, UM, TO ACCELERATE OUR EFFORTS, TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.

UM, AND, UM, DEFINE MASS AND SCALE, PERHAPS A LITTLE BETTER.

UM, TALK ABOUT FOOTPRINTS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GET AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND YOU COULD, UM, YOU COULD THEN INVOKE THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY WAYS OF, UM, OF TRYING TO DO IT.

UM, I AM NOT AN ADVOCATE OF, UM, DELIBERATELY, UM, DRAGGING FEET.

UM, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT OUR REPUTATION.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BECOME OUR REPUTATION, BUT WE CAN BE AS CAREFUL AS WE NEED TO BE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, UM, IS DONE AT A DELIBERATE PACE.

IT'S DONE PROPERLY, THAT PLANNING COMMISSION CAN REVIEW IT, UM, ONCE OR TWICE.

UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET CRACKING ON, UM, UPDATING THE 2004 MASTER PLAN.

HEATHER IS OUT.

SHE SAID THAT THE DOWNTOWN, THE HISTORIC MASTER PLAN IS FROM OH FOUR.

I BELIEVE THAT 2004 AND 2006, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET THAT.

WE NEED TO GET THAT IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO ACCELERATE OUR EFFORTS TO, UM, MAKE, UM, UH, AMENDMENT CHANGES WITH THE GUIDANCE OF COUNCIL.

IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS CLEARLY ENOUGH, BUT THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.

WELL, NO, YOU, YOU DID.

I, I JUST KNOW THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING IT, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED, A MORATORIUM HAS BEEN PUT ON CLEMSON.

I, YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND TOO MUCH CRAZINESS HAS GONE ON BEFORE THE INFRASTRUCTURE RESOLVED.

AND I KNOW IT IT'S A TOUGH ONE, BUT IT IS A TOOL WE CAN USE IN AREAS.

BUT IF WE CAN ACCELERATE AND DEFINE AND PUSH OUT PROCESS, I MEAN, WE ALL CAN SLOW THINGS DOWN AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT I THINK THAT MAKE IT IN UNTIL SOMETHING'S GONE THROUGH THE COMMITTEES.

WE CAN CHANGE IT, RIGHT.

EVEN IF THEY COME FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE FOR WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNTIL IT GOES THROUGH PLANNING PERMISSION OR HPC.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR IT.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SQUARE MILE.

I'LL ALL OF OUR TOWNS IMPORTANT, BUT THIS WAS THE REASON THE REST OF THE TOWN GREW BECAUSE OF THE DELIVERANCE WE PUT INTO THIS PROCESS AND ACCELERATE AND DEFINE, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE DO IT QUICKLY IF WE, IF WE WANT TO DO A MORATORIUM, WE HAVE THAT AT OUR, AS AN OPTION SO QUICK, MAYBE THIS IS YOUR SPEED, SPEED RUN.

UM, ELSE.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING THERE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SEEING THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN AND KNOWING THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UM, THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIKE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MITIGATING.

UM, WHAT'S GOING ON.

I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF PARKING.

I KNOW A GREAT DEAL HAS BEEN DONE TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.

UM, SO FAR IN WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE, BUT JUST IN SEEING WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S COMING UP.

UM, THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING TOO, THAT WE PUT A FOCUS ON.

AND I HAD MENTIONED IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION, UM, JUST KNOWING IT THAT'S EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT, UH, FOR THE ATTRACTION THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA AND COMING TO THE AREA AND WE DON'T WANT TO,

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UM, FOCUS ON ONE AREA AND NOT LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AN OUTLYING ISSUE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A GREAT IMPACT BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, UM, THE CONTRACT WITH THE BLUFFTON TAXI AND MIKE, THE CORNER PARKING, IT JUST CAME ABOUT PRIOR TO THOSE ISSUES, UM, OR PRIOR TO THAT COMING INTO EXISTENCE, THAT WAS A HUGE, UM, PROBLEM DOWN INTO THAT AREA.

SO I'M JUST SAYING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MITIGATING AND LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS GOING TO BE, UM, THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ONE AND NOT THINK OF THE OTHER, BUT GOOD FEEDBACK.

OKAY, HEATHER, DO YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING? AND WE CAN WORK WITH TERRY ON DELAY PROCESS AND DELAY AND NOT DELAY, BUT PROCESS AND THOROUGHNESS.

UM, AND WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS OTHER WAYS.

SO ANYTHING ELSE FOR HEATHER, THIS IS A WORKSHOP LET'S MOVE THIS ON QUICKLY AND GET IT THROUGH THE COMMITTEES AND SEE THEIR THOUGHTS AND GET IT BACK TO US.

OKAY, NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL HEARING ON TWO ITEMS. UH, AND I WILL START WITH THE FIRST ONE IT'S CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE CHAPTER 23, THE UDI ARTICLE FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS, ARTICLE NINE, DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS TO ADD SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS, UH, TO ESTABLISH CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS.

THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING, UM, WHO HEATHER, YOU'RE UP ON THIS? LET'S HAVE THE CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

KIM, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM? NO, MA'AM OKAY.

I'LL STILL DO FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING THE COMMENT ON PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND CALL FOR COMMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING OF THIS ITEM, THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

UM, FINAL READING ON THIS, HEATHER, YOU ARE UP, WERE THERE CHANGES FROM FIRST READING TO NOW? NO, THEY WERE NOT.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES, CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

AT FIRST READING, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, GO THROUGH A BRIEF PRESENTATION, OR I ALSO HAVE, UH, THE PROPOSED MOTION ON THE SCREEN.

SO WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF HEATHER ON THIS THAT YOU'D LIKE CLARIFIED FROM LAST MONTH? YES, I DO.

YES, SIR.

MR. HAMILTON PROVISION, WE HAVE, IT SAYS THAT THE TOWN WOULD NOT INSPECT THESE HOMES WHEN THEY COME ONLINE, BUT RELY ON THE, THE OWNER OR THE MANAGER TO, TO PROVIDE US WITH AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING THAT IT MEETS REQUIREMENTS.

AND YOU GO TO THAT PROVISION PLEASE.

OOPS.

PERFECT.

UM, IS THAT IN THE SECOND? I BELIEVE THAT'S IN, IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

UM, THIS ONE I HAVE UP IS IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, I CAN, I DIDN'T THAT IN THE ITEM TWO IT'S IN THE SECOND ITEM.

YES.

FRED, CAN WE DISCUSS THAT ON THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM ON THAT? YES.

THIS ITEM JUST AFFECTS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACTUAL USE AND THE DEFINITIONS.

AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE PROCESS AND HOW TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT.

DOES, WHAT IS, WHAT YOU HEAR HIM ASKING AFFECT ANY OF THE DEFINITIONS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO, IT DOES NOT.

OKAY.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THIS AND THEN YES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PART OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL? UM, FINAL RATING, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE FOUR, UH, AN ARTICLE NINE SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS IN HOMESTAY RENTALS OR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

UM, NOW WE'RE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING OF CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE FIVE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THEY'RE CAUGHT, WHERE THEY'RE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS, KIM? NO.

OKAY.

HERE WILL CALL FIRST READING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

SECOND READING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, THIRD AND FINAL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS ITEM PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

SO HE IS FROM FIRST TO SECOND READING.

WOULD YOU PULL UP FRED? DO YOU HAVE FRED'S QUESTION TO PULL THAT UP AND ANSWER IT? YES, THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO.

SO

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THEIR STAFF DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATION AT FIRST READING.

SO ON THE SCREEN HERE, HERE'S THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS THAT PERTAIN TO SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS.

AND IN THE, I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE ACTUAL APPLICATION ITSELF IS AGAIN, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED? THE APPLICATION INCLUDES THE GENERAL INFORMATION, DEFINITIONS AND PROCESS, AND THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH USING, AGAIN, LOOKING AT OUR, UM, NEIGHBORS AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AS WELL AS THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE FIRE CODE THAT'S IN EFFECT AS WELL AS THE BUILDING CODE THAT'S IN EFFECT IS THAT, THAT, UM, WHEN THE STRUCTURE IS BUILT, IT'S CONSTRUCTED AS THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, THE FIRE MARSHALL DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE AUTHORITY TO GO IN AND INSPECT, UM, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, THE BUILDING INSPECTORS DO AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION AND, UM, MOVE FORWARD.

SO THIS FOLLOWS THOSE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN PLACE.

AND WHAT'S POSTED, SHOULD THERE BE ANY, UM, SORRY, SCROLLING THROUGH PROBABLY TOO FAST HERE.

CAN YOU, I JUST CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE SCROLLING THROUGH.

SO THIS YEAR IS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION I CAN STOP WHEREVER.

SO THE, THIS IS THE, THE DRAFT APPLICATION THAT WOULD, UM, FOLLOW THE CHANGES TO THAT PERMITTING ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING OF THE APPLICANTS IN THOSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT FOLLOW THE AMENDMENTS, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, AS FAR AS THE DEFINITION, SO THAT, SO THAT THERE'S NO UNKNOWNS, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THE PRIMARY CONTACT, AGAIN, GOING THROUGH HERE.

UM, AS FAR AS THE LICENSES, THE PERMITS WHAT'S REQUIRED, THE RENEWALS, UM, AND THAT LIFE SAFETY CHECKLIST AND THE POSTING REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE PO THE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE POSTED IN THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT IN A VERY CONSPICUOUS LOCATION.

SO THE BACK OF THE DOOR REFRIGERATOR SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S NOT HIDDEN, AND THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT MUST MUST BE INCLUDED THE MINIMUM OF WHAT MUST BE INCLUDED IN THAT.

SO GOING THROUGH THE, UM, AGAIN, HERE'S WHAT THEY WOULD BE FILLING IN.

AND AGAIN, THAT REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION.

SO THERE'S THE FEE THAT CHECKLIST THE AFFIDAVIT AS WELL AS THE DOCUMENT.

UM, SO HERE'S THAT CERTIFICATION THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO.

AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THAT BE REQUIRED TO BE NOTARIZED AS WELL.

AND HERE, THIS MAY BE A COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AFFIDAVIT.

SO THIS, AGAIN, OUTLINES WHAT THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE SO THAT, UM, THEY KNOW IT, THEY HAVE IT WITH THEM WHEN THEY LEAVE.

THEY HAVE A COPY.

IT'S ALL ON FILE AGAIN, WHAT ALL OF THOSE RULES ARE, AND HERE'S SOME OF THE LIFE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, AS FAR AS WHAT'S REQUIRED, AND AGAIN, FOR THE CONDUCT AND THINGS THAT ARE EXPECTED.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE AWARE OF A NO.

AND HERE'S THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE TO CERTIFY IS THERE.

AND THEN THERE'S MORE AUTHORIZED, UM, FOR THEIR AGENT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL, JUST THE WAY THAT BUILDING CODE IS STRUCTURED.

UM, FAR MARSHALL DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INSPECT THE, AND THE SAME KIND OF HOLDS TRUE FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTORS BECAUSE ONCE IT'S BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED, AND THIS IS THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, CERTIFICATION NOW, SHOULD THERE BE A, UM, VIOLATION OR AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE? WE CERTAINLY ALWAYS HAVE THE MEANS TO, UM, ANY AUTHORITY TO GO AND INSPECT.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? FRED, FRED FRED'S ON MUTE.

LET ME JUST, FRED, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.

LARRY, UM, PAGE TWO OF THE STAFF REPORT OR WHERE, OR PAGE TWO OF SORRY, CATHERINE, CAN YOU NOT MAKE THAT BIGGER? I ASKED EARLY, CAN YOU NOT PLUS THAT? I JUST CAN'T GO.

IS THAT GOOD? SORRY.

OKAY.

ON MY SCREEN, I'VE GOT EVERYTHING STRUNK HERE.

APOLOGIZE.

WELL, IT PAYS TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT DEPARTMENT OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

YES.

OKAY.

AND I MAY HAVE TO JUST MAKE THIS SMALLER FOR A MOMENT JUST SO I CAN SEE WHERE I'M GOING HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE

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RIGHT THERE.

BUT IT SAYS BECAUSE OF SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON STAB DOES NOT, UM, PURPOSE PROPOSED TO CON CON CONDUCT ANY INITIAL INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

INSTEAD, THE OWNER, THE AGENT MUST PROVIDE THE COMPLETE LIFESTYLE AFFIDAVIT TO INDICATE WHETHER CERTAIN SAFETY MEASURES ARE IN PLACE.

UM, AND THEN YOU USE REFERENCEABLE, SAVANNAH AND THE CITY OF BUFORD.

AND, UM, BUT IF, IF THE, IF WE CAN'T WELL CELLS, AND THEN WE RELY ON, UM, AN AFFIDAVIT THAT MAYBE SOMEONE BEST FRIEND COULD SIGN OFF ON, HOW CAN WE SAY THAT THOSE THINGS THAT WE REQUIRED THE POSTING IS ACTUALLY THERE.

WE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND NOW WE KNOW THAT IT'S A, IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL UNIT WHEN, WHEN THEY TELL US THAT THEY'RE GONNA USE IT FOR RENTAL OR SHORT TERM OR SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE KNOW WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENT IS, SO WHY WOULD WE TREAT IT AS IF IT WAS A HOME FRED, WE CAN CHANGE IT.

I MEAN, DO YOU, ARE YOU ASKING, DO YOU WANT AN AUDIT AFTER THE FACT, OR DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW THE SAME RE-INSPECTION THAT THE CITY OF BUFORD DOES? UM, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M ASKING, UM, WHY WE ARE KIND OF RELAXED ON THAT FIRST.

I WANT TO GET GETTING THE OPINION BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER.

I WANT MY HEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I CAN ANSWER IT.

AND I KNOW, UM, OR THAT TERRY FINGER AS WELL, WE DID HAVE THIS REVIEWED BY, UM, RICHARDSON.

UH AS PART OF THE, THE REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO THE, THE RATIONALE FOR STAFF AND RECOMMENDING, UM, THE PROCESS AS WE'VE HAD OUTLINED HERE IS THAT IT'S WHEN IT'S UNDER INITIAL CONSTRUCTION, IT'S RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND THE USE OF HOW LONG SOMETHING MAY BE RENTED OR NOT IS THE, IS THE FUNCTION.

SO WHEN IT'S INITIALLY CONSTRUCTED, IT MEETS THE BUILDING CODES, THERE PLANS IN PLACE AT THE TIME.

UM, AND THEN THE LIFE SAFETY AFFIDAVIT IS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A TOOL I KNOW THE CITY OF, FOR IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK THEIR INSPECTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS HOW THEY, UM, DO THEIR PROCEDURES THERE.

BUT IT'S, WE, WE ASSUME THAT THEY ARE TELLING US THE TRUTH UNTIL WE FIND OUT OTHERWISE, AND THEN WE INVESTIGATE DEEPER.

AND THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED.

UM, SHOULD YOU REQUEST SOME CHANGES? WE CERTAINLY CAN REVIEW THAT WITH, UH, LEGAL AND THE BUILDING, UM, SAFETY DIVISION AND MOVE FORWARD.

AND THIS IS JUST A PROCESS.

SO THIS, THIS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE AS ADOPTED, BUT THE PROCEDURES THAT STAFF WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.

BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE RATIONALE WITH THE INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS THAT, UM, THAT THAT AFFIDAVIT WAS A LEGAL AFFIDAVIT THAT THEY MUST FOLLOW.

AND IF WE FOUND OUT THEY WEREN'T, THEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD ACCORDINGLY.

SO, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD DEFER TO TERRY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT.

BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS CHANGE THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE IF, UM, COUNCIL SO DESIRES.

OKAY.

OH, SOMEONE HAMILTON, THIS IS, THIS IS TERRY FOR A SECOND.

UM, IT WAS OUR THOUGHT AND, AND THE, THE ORDINANCES FROM THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, UM, BARRY GREATLY, UM, A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE INSPECTIONS UPFRONT AND A NUMBER OF THEM, UM, RELY UPON THE AFFIDAVIT.

IT WAS OUR THOUGHT THAT AN INSPECTION THAT'S DONE ON JANUARY ONE WOULD REALLY HAVE NO BEARING UNLESS WE WERE GOING TO INSPECT, UM, MONTHLY OR MUCH MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.

AND INSPECTOR IN JANUARY WOULD NOT HAVE A BIG BEARING ON, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IN JUNE.

OUR THOUGHT WAS TO MAKE THE, UM, RENTAL AGENT AND OR OWNER BE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLIANCE THROUGH AN AFFIDAVIT PROCEDURE.

UM, AND, UH, THEREFORE WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT ANY TOWN LIABILITY WOULD BE FAIRLY EFFECTIVELY SHUT OFF.

UM, SO THAT'S, UM, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT.

AND OF COURSE, IT'S ALL PREMISED ON THE FACT THAT IF IT'S A HOME, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE FIRE INSPECTION, UM, UPFRONT, UM, AS HEATHER MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN TO ANY INPUT FROM COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WHEN WE CAN, WE CAN ADAPT IT ANY WAY YOU ALL, LIKE,

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CAN WE TALK TO LARRY FOR A MINUTE? OR DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP LARRY? UM, YEAH, I GUESS I'LL START WITH, UM, A CONTACT THAT WAS MADE WITH ME THIS WEEK ABOUT, AND, AND I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE GUIDELINES, SOMEONE WHO OWNS A HOUSE AND A GARAGE APARTMENT FOR AN EXAMPLE, NOW THAT IS RENTING BOTH OF THEM SHORT TERM, WHAT IS THE, ARE, ARE THEIR GRANDFATHER CLAUSES THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO IT.

AND ANYONE NEW HAS TO GO BUY THIS NEW HOUSE.

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THAT PROPERTY OWNER SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THE WAY THAT, UM, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT IS SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER NON LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE.

SO IF THE UNITS ARE ALREADY LICENSED AND RIGHT NOW HOW THEY WERE PERMITTED WAS THROUGH A HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT, IF THEY ARE, UM, LEGALLY OPERATING AS A HOME OCCUPATION AND HAVE THOSE LICENSE IN EFFECT, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO SO IN THEIR GRANDFATHER, THE SAME GRANDFATHERED PROVISIONS FOR ANY, UM, USE THAT WOULD BE CREATED AS A, AGAIN, THAT WOULD CHANGE THE RULES, THE RULES, SO TO SPEAK.

SO YES, THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED AS LONG AS THEY ARE, UM, LEGALLY CONFORMING USES AT THIS TIME.

SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE NEW GUIDELINES AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS ONLY ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PER PROPERTY.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT FOR MEANING THAT ANNUAL PERMIT PROCESS, BUT AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN.

OKAY.

UM, I UNDERSTAND ALL THIS AND I, AND I, I REALLY WANT TO JUST RESPOND BECAUSE I'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF IT.

UM, THE, IN MY OPINION, THE REASON THAT WE ARE, ARE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS AS, BECAUSE NEIGHBORS ARE BEGINNING TO FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A, IN A HOUSE AND THEN THE TWO HOUSES NEXT DOOR, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, BEING RENTED ALL THE TIME, NEW PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY, IN MY OPINION, THAT THAT THAT'S BASICALLY TURNING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES INTO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

IF, IF PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING ON THAT LOT, IS THAT, IS THAT THE CONSENSUS OF THIS WHOLE IDEA? I MEAN, I'M, I'M ASKING, UM, THAT'S KIND OF, KIND OF WHY I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO THIS ORDINANCE IS TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM COMING IN, BUYING ALL THE HOUSES ON A STREET THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE OR TWO WHO MAY NOT WANT TO SELL AND TURN IT INTO ESSENTIALLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP.

LARRY I'LL ANSWER UNTIL HEATHER, HEATHER DOES.

I THINK IT IS MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE THE WAY I FEEL.

AND I THINK IT'S A VERY EASY ORDINANCE IN A LOT OF TOWNS, STAKEHOLDERS HAVE PUT THEIR ADVICE IN THAT DO HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THEMSELVES.

SO, UM, THAT THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF BRINGS OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IT OR WHY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE IT GETS FARTHER OUT OF HAND.

AND I WILL ADD THAT.

THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU RECALL, IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS, STAFF WAS CHALLENGED.

I SHOULDN'T SAY CHALLENGED, BUT STAFF WAS DIRECTED AT CALIBRATING LAND USES AND LOOKING AT VARIOUS LAND USES.

AND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE WAS ONE THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY, UM, CALLED OUT THAT NEEDED MORE ATTENTION.

AND WE WENT THROUGH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND WORKSHOPS TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND HOW TO ADDRESS IT.

AND AT THE TIME, UM, STAFF HAD BEEN ADDRESSING IT AS A HOME OCCUPATION.

SO IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN ANY OF OUR ORDINANCES.

UM, SHORT TERM RENTAL DIDN'T APPEAR IN ANY SEARCH DID YOU DO AND THE UDR OR THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

SO IT WAS A WAY TO, UM, ALIGN THE ORDINANCE WITH BUSINESS PRACTICES, HOW THEY'VE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

AND SO WE, WE CAN GET A SENSE YOU'LL HEAR FROM CHRIS FORRESTER.

AND I THINK IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME WAYS TO ACTUALLY MONITOR IT AND PERMIT IT AND, UM, HOW WE'LL IMPLEMENT IT MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE A REAL ACCURATE COUNT ON WHAT WHAT'S

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THERE IMPRESSIONS OF HEATHER ON THIS, THE SECOND AND FINAL READING, WE WE'VE HAD ONE SUGGESTION, I THINK A SUGGESTION OR A CONCERN ON PROCESS, NOT THE ACTUAL CODE, SO WE CAN MAKE THAT EDIT ANYONE ELSE.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I HAVE ONE AND TO ECHO WHAT, UM, FRANK STATED, I'D MENTIONED THAT THE LAST READING THAT WE HAD WITH THIS ISSUE ON, UM, ON OUR ISSUE, BUT WITH THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, JUST ON HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, UH, TRACK OR LIKE GET, UM, VERIFICATION THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS WERE ACTUALLY, UM, DOING OR HAVING THE, THE REQUIRED ITEMS. SO IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT SUGGESTIONS WE COULD COME UP WITH ON, ON HOW TO DO THAT, IF IT'S STEM, SINCE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO GO IN THERE AND A BUILDING INSPECTOR CAN'T GO IN, UNLESS AN ISSUE ARISES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE THEM SUBMIT, UM, LIKE IMAGES OF DOCUMENTATION OR SOMETHING SHOWING THAT THEY ARE MEETING THOSE STANDARDS, UM, FOR OUR BENEFIT, OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING HERE SAY THAT THE WORD AMOUNT WITH THE ITEMS ARE DONE.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A THOUGHT THAT YOU'VE MADE ME THINK THAT THIS I'M LOOKING AT THE SHEET WITH TECHNOLOGY AS IT IS TODAY.

WHY CAN'T THE APPLICATION COME WITH A VIDEO, A YOUTUBE LINK OR PICTURES, AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUDIT AT ANY TIME.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THERE, MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD THE ABILITY TO DO A SAMPLING AND AUDIT, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AMAZON AND NOT WAIT FOR COMPLAINTS AND HAVE SOME VISUAL WAY OF CONFIRMING IT.

LISA, I THINK I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED THIS.

UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS, BUT WHERE THERE WOULD BE A PLAQUE OR A LICENSE, UM, ON THE U S THESE PROPERTIES WITH, WITH OUR TOWN INFORMATION.

UM, SO THAT ANYONE THAT COMES HERE AND IT'S NOT RIGHT, OR THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES, SO TO SPEAK AND RESPOND BACK TO US, THEN WE, THEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

IT SEEMS LIKE I THOUGHT WE DID IN A WORKSHOP.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

I'LL LET HEATHER HAVE A MEMORY ON IT.

UM, YEAH, WE DID.

WE DID THAT, BUT I THINK THE ISSUE MORE SO THAT, UH, I WAS RAISING IN FRED WAS THE CONCERN WAS THE, UM, SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT NEED TO HAVE TO GET THE PLACARD.

SO LIKE THE CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR AND THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WERE SAYING LIKE, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW SOMEONE HAS THAT BEFORE GIVING THEM THE PLACARD, IF NO, ONE'S GOING IN TO ACTUALLY VERIFY THAT ANYONE COULD COULD SAY THAT THEY HAVE THOSE ITEMS AND ACTUALLY DON'T RIGHT.

SO EITHER, I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE CAN CHANGE THAT AND HAVE IT, HAVE SOMEONE GO IN AND DO IT CHECK OF THE CHECKLIST, OR WE CAN DO THE OTHER SUGGESTION AND HAVE THEM PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION ON TOP OF THE CHECKLIST SHEET SIGN THAT IT'S DONE.

RIGHT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, I'M FINE EITHER WAY.

I KINDA THINK WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE, NOT REACTIVE ON ALL OF IT.

JUST HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? UM, HOW DO YOU WANT IT? HOW DO YOU WANT IT HANDLED OR SALTA? THIS IS MARK.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION, HEATHER, UH, TERRY, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR, YOUR SLIDE? AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU INDICATE THAT DOES IT, BUT BUFORD DOES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, UH, PROCESS THAT BUFORD EMPLOYEES, WHAT THEY DO FOR INSPECTIONS? I THINK SOME OF THE ISSUE IS WHAT ARE WE INSPECTING WHEN WE GO THERE AND WHY ARE WE THERE? RIGHT.

SO HEATHER, PERHAPS YOUR TERRY COULD EXPLAIN THE BUFORD SITUATION.

SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE CITY OF BUFORD DOES DO AN INSPECTION.

I'M SPEAKING WITH, AGAIN, THE IT'S ALL AN INTERPRETATION OF THE BILL, THE STATE BUILDING CODE, AS FAR AS, UM, HOW IT'S CLASSIFIED.

SO THE BUILDING CODE ONLY HAS A RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

THEY DON'T HAVE A, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT DOES IT FALL UNDER IF IT FALLS UNDER A RESIDENTIAL, UM, IT'S BUILT AS A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF PLANS, REQUIREMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, VERSUS SPRINKLERS AND HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY, AND JUST A WHOLE DIFFERENT, UM, CHARACTER.

AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I THINK A CHARACTER WAS SHORT TERM RENTAL.

SO MOST, UM, COMMUNITIES IN SAVANNAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUILDING CODES THEY FALL UNDER, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY THEM, BUT, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE AFFIDAVIT ON THE, UM, IF I WERE TO PULL THAT STAFF REPORT UP.

SO SAVANNAH DOES THE AFFIDAVIT, BUFORD DOES AN INSPECTION, WE CAN DO AN

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INSPECTION, IT GETS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED AND EXACTLY WHAT ARE WE INSPECTING BECAUSE IF A BUILDING INSPECTOR GOES IN A PROPERTY AND SEES OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT UP TO THE CURRENT CODE, WHERE DOES THAT LEGAL, UM, SEPARATION, WHERE DOES THAT SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY, CAN THEY PUT ON, I DON'T WANT TO SAY PUT ON THEIR BLINDERS, BUT ARE THEY ONLY INSPECTING FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL CERTIFICATE OR ARE THEY INSPECTING FOR CURRENT CODES? CAUSE CURRENT CODES CHANGED.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE PROPOSAL, AGAIN, WORKING WITH TERRY AND RICHARDSON WAS THE AFFIDAVIT AND THE CERTIFICATION AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I DEFER TO LEGAL ON EXACTLY THE PROCESS, BUT I DO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK INTO THE, WE'LL LOOK INTO ALL OF THAT.

WE CAN LOOK INTO, AGAIN, THE PICTURES, THE PHOTOS, THE VIDEOS, AND HOST COMPLIANCE, UM, AND SOME OF THE OTHER SOFTWARE COMPANIES MAY HAVE AN EASY WAY TO EVEN STORE THAT OR MONITOR THAT, OR, UM, FOLLOW CITY OF BUFORD SLADE.

UH, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, LET ME JUMP IN BEFORE IT'S VERY SPEEDS.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THREE OF COUNCIL THAT NEEDS SOME KIND OF VISUAL, SOME KIND OF CONFIRMATION THAT SMOKE DETECTOR IN EACH BEDROOM IS JUST THE CHECKLIST SMOKE DETECTOR THAT ONE'S ON EACH FLOOR, CARBON MONOXIDE BEDROOM HAS A WINDOW FUNCTIONING, FIRE EXTINGUISHER ADDRESS NUMBER POSTED.

THOSE ARE SO SIMPLE TO HAVE A WALKTHROUGH VIDEO, BUT THEY'RE SO SIMPLE.

I DON'T THINK A CODE INSPECTOR HAS TO GO IN.

AND AGAIN, I WISH WE KNEW WHAT BUFORD DID.

WHY NOT COPY BUFORD? UM, JUST SEEMS EASY IF YOU HAVE COUNSELED THE THREE OF FIVE, TWO, HAVEN'T SPOKEN REALLY YET ON IT.

UM, TO VERIFY THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT RIGHT THERE, ISN'T THIS ALL WE WANT TO VERIFY.

YEAH.

LISA, UM, IN YOUR RIGHT C W WHAT HEATHER JUST SAID, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CONFUSE IF YOU'RE GOING IN AND YOU'RE DOING A HOME INSPECTION, THEN THERE MAY BE, WE ALL DOING TOO MUCH, BUT WE, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE COMING TO US ASKING US TO GIVE THEM, UH, A BUSINESS LICENSE TO DO A SHORT-TERM.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T NEED TO INSPECT, UM, THEIR, UM, WHETHER THEY MEET ALL THE CODES, WE WANT TO EXPECT THE THINGS THAT WE TOLD THEM THEM THAT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

I AGREE.

SO TERRY, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOES, I MEAN, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A CODE INSPECTOR? WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE BUSINESS LICENSE DEPARTMENT OR HAVE THAT VISUAL VIDEO PHOTO SHOWING THIS THAT'S ATTACHED WITH THIS APPLICATION ON THESE ITEMS? MAYOR DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A BUILDING INSPECTOR.

UH, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, IT COULD BE DONE BY WALKTHROUGH, OR IT COULD BE DONE THROUGH A VIDEO OR A PHOTO, UM, PRESENTATION.

UM, AND IF I'M STARTING TO HEAR COUNCIL SAYING, WE WANT TO WALK THROUGH, UM, IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL, UM, WE WILL, UM, DO THAT IN THE PROCEDURAL ASPECTS.

I THINK WE'RE STILL FINE WITH THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED TONIGHT, BUT SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION DOCUMENTATION WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE AND WE CAN PUT AN INSPECTION IN THAT'S THAT IS NOT, UM, A BIG DEAL.

UM, I WOULD ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW OFTEN DO YOU WANT AN INSPECTION TO BE DONE? IS IT ANNUAL? IS IT QUARTERLY? UM, UH, I WOULD, WE'RE ON A LITTLE SLIPPERY SLOPE ABOUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA START DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS LIKE THAT.

UM, WHAT ABOUT SMALL HOTELS? SO WE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE BIG HOTELS.

I WOULD CERTAINLY, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN, BUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS A, UH, IS A DEFINED LITTLE CHARACTER, A LITTLE UNIT, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT IF THAT'S THE WILLOW COUNCIL MAY OR MAY NOT JUMP IN DAN, EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT TERRY WAS JUST STAYING AND HE COVERED IT, UH, DISTINCTLY, UH, I MEAN, WE DON'T DO THAT TO HOTELS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WAY I COULD EVEN CONCEIVABLY SAVE AN INSPECTION IS WHEN YOU GET YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE AND YOU MAY RENEW IT ANNUALLY BECAUSE LIKE TERRY SAID EARLIER TONIGHT, UH, YOU MAY GET AN INSPECTION TODAY, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEBODY WALKS OFF THREE WEEKS LATER WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER OR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T GET REPLACED.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T MANAGE THAT.

YOU, YOU IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

UM, AND THEN PART OF THIS WHOLE CONCEPT WAS TO SHIFT THE LIABILITY OVER TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTUALLY CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS AND GETTING THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND NOT PLACING ALL THE BURDEN ON US AND THE LIABILITY TO GO WITH IT.

BUT I THINK IF IT'S FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT WE HAVE, AND AS SIMPLE AS THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN, IN ANY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, FOOD, TRUCK, RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS IN ORDER TO GET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT LICENSE,

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THERE'S CERTAIN PROOF THAT YOU HAVE TO SHOW.

SO A VIDEO WALKTHROUGH AS LISA SUGGESTED SHIFTS TO FINANCE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A REQUIREMENT OF ITEMS UP, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO CHECK THE REQUIREMENTS, IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUIREMENT.

AND WHY NOT JUST GIVE, YOU KNOW, A PERSON, UM, A LICENSE OR PERMIT TO HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL JUST OFF OF AN APPLICATION.

IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THESE ITEMS, THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, UM, PROCESS ON OUR END THAT WE CAN VERIFY THEY'RE DOING IT.

AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A MONTHLY THING.

IF, IF THE PERMIT PROVIDES THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS BARRON'S FOR A YEAR OR IT'S ANNUAL THAN DINA, THAT SHOULD BE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THOSE ITEMS, UM, EACH YEAR ARE BEING MET AS THEY GO TO RENEW THE SHORT-TERM ROUTE, UM, FALL ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT CATEGORY FOR BEING AUDITED IN.

AND, UM, THE STATE REQUIRES THEM TO FOLLOW CERTAIN GUIDELINES, UM, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

WHEN YOU PUT A HOTEL IN THIS, IN THIS, IN THIS CONVERSATION.

AND I, I, I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT OF THE COMPARISON, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES BEING CONVERTED INTO A NIGHTLY STAY HOTELS.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN A HOUSE BE CONVERTED INTO A HOTEL AND HOTELS HAVE THEIR OWN CODES.

I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM.

I THINK THE HONOR, IT SHOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD EITHER PRESENT PHOTOS OR VIDEO.

AND THAT CAN BE EVERY YEAR, WHENEVER THEY RENEW IT, IF THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULDN'T CHANGE IT, BUT THEY ALSO WENT CHECKOUT.

THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH AND CHECK THEIR ROOM TO MAKE SURE NOTHING WAS TAKEN.

I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH ON THE OWNER ANYWAY, THEY NEED TO, ESPECIALLY TODAY, THEY GOT TO CLEAN AND SANITIZE.

THEY CAN GO THROUGH THIS CHECKLIST ON THE BACK OF THE DOOR AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR FIRE EXTINGUISHER.

MAYOR COUNCIL, DAN ANNUAL MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.

SO DO I HEAR ANNUAL, UM, KIND OF OVERVIEW ARE Y'ALL OKAY.

THAT THEY SUBMIT A VIDEO OR PHOTOS.

I MEAN, THAT KEEPS, YOU KNOW, STAFF FROM GOING OUT TO SO MANY AND THEN THAT, THEN THEY HAVE IT IN A FILE.

IF SOMEBODY DID COMPLAIN, AT LEAST WE HAVE IT TO SAY, WELL, NO, THERE THERE'S A WINDOW.

THERE'S, THERE'S AN ADDRESS.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY PROTECTS ALL PARTIES, RIGHT.

UM, I'M HEATHER, IF YOU TAKE THE, UM, THE CHECKLIST THAT YOU HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN NOW, AND YOU ADDED ANOTHER COLUMN THAT JUST SAID SOMETHING LIKE PROOF PRESENTED, UM, VIDEOS OR PHOTOS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU COULD HAVE THEIR INITIALS AND THEN WHAT PROOF THEY PRESENTED ON EACH OF THEM.

UM, AS LONG AS WE HAD SOME REPOSITORY FOR THAT PROOF, UM, THAT PERHAPS THAT WOULD SUFFICE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

UM, LOOKING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES EVEN REQUIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, RECEIPTS OF, YOU KNOW, SMOKING SECTOR INSPECTORS OR INSTALLED OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE CAN GET CREATIVE, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN ADD A CALL ON THAT VERIFICATION OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER, OR, UM, SOME COMMUNITIES, I DON'T KNOW, SOME, SOME, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS MAY CHOOSE TO HAVE A PRIVATE INSPECTION AND JUST FOR THEIR OWN PEACE OF MIND, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OTHERS HAVE DONE AS WELL.

SO THINK THE VIDEO OR PHOTO KEEPS IT SIMPLE.

I LIKE SIMPLE ONE IS ANYONE AGAINST THAT THOUGHT.

SO NOW I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, LARRY.

I HADN'T HEARD FROM YOU.

I'VE HEARD FRED HAVE HEARD DAN.

BRIDGET, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY, SILENCE.

UM, I DON'T SEE LARRY IS LARRY ON THE CALL, UH, HIS, UH, HIS ID.

OKAY.

SO, UM, LARRY'S OUT OUT OF, UH, FOR THE MOMENT.

OKAY.

SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THIS IN THE MOTION, TERRY? I THINK THE MOTION IS FINE, MAYOR.

UM, UH, IF YOU COULD PULL IT UP FOR US, HEATHER.

YEAH.

AND W WE WILL NOTE THAT OUR CHECKLIST, WHICH IS NOT A PART OF THE, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, ALTHOUGH IT'S AN ATTACHMENT TO THE ORDINANCE, ISN'T IT? HEATHER? IT IS, IT'S AN ATTACHMENT TO THE PACKETS.

IT'S NOT ATTACHMENT TO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ITSELF.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S A POCKET PERHAPS WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS

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MOTION THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN WOULD JUST ALSO ADD IN THERE THAT THE PROCEDURES MUST INVOLVE VIDEO OR PHOTOGRAPHIC, UM, CONFIRMATION OF THE CHECKLIST.

AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE FUN.

OKAY.

YOU SEE NOW I'VE GOT IT.

WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE, LET'S MOVE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE MINUTES TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER SIX AND ARTICLE FIVE TO INCLUDE THAT THE PROCEDURES MUST INCLUDE A PHOTO OR VIDEO, UM, CONFIRMATION ON THE, OF THE CHECKLIST.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES.

YES MA'AM.

OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT OR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

AND, UM, LARRY WAS ABSENT FROM THAT VOTE, KIM.

OKAY.

LET ME SCROLL BACK TO PAGE ONE.

UM, WE ARE ON A FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS. CHRIS, YOU WERE UP CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON 2021 BUDGET TO REFLECT THE ADDITIONAL SHORT-TERM REVENUE PER THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

THIS IS SECOND AND FINAL READING.

WAS THERE ANYTHING CHANGED AND DID COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM KIND OF FOLLOW UP FROM OUR LAST ITEM? I HAVE NO, NO CHANGES AS FAR AS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT GOES.

UM, I, WE DO HAVE BRUCE MCCASKILL WITH, UM, HOST COMPLIANCE WITH US WHO GIVE A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE OVERVIEW OF HIS, HIS TOOL AND, UH, COMPLIANCE, UH, UH, SERVICES.

OKAY.

HE CAN THINK HE'S LOGGING IN NOW.

SO WERE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SO CHRIS, BEFORE HE GETS ON, ON THIS, IF NOT, WE'LL LISTEN TO BRUCE'S AND WE'RE LISTENING TO HIM.

WHY? UH, HE'S HE'S WITH HOST COMPLIANCE AND HE'LL GO OVER KIND OF THE COMPLIANCE PROCEDURES AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE FOR, UM, MONITORING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITHIN A BUFFER.

OKAY.

AND ARE WE VOTING ON THIS OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY CONTRACTED? UH, AS PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, IF THE BUDGET BAN IS APPROVED, UM, IT IS WITHIN THE DONALD'S THRESHOLD OF, OF MANAGEMENT TO, UH, CONTRACT FOR THIS I DIDN'T.

OKAY, BUT WHERE, WHERE IS HE? HE, HE, HE SHOULD BE ON, UH, BRUCE, CAN YOU HEAR US? I SEE HIS NAME, BUT HE HAS HIS VIDEO AT ALL.

AND THERE'S NO VOLUME.

UM, CAN WE, WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM, CAN WE JUMP TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ALSO SECOND AND FINAL READING ON THE BOND.

OKAY.

BUT HE'S GOT HIS OWN, BUT HIS VIDEO IS CUT OFF AND HE DOESN'T HAVE A MICROPHONE.

SO HE MUST HAVE SIGNED IN WITHOUT AUDIO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION, ANOTHER ONE IT'S MARK, IF YOU WANT THAT PRESENTATION.

I, IF WE CAN'T HEAR BRUCE AT THIS POINT AND YOU WANT TO MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA, WE CAN SHOW YOU THAT PRESENTATION AT A LATER DATE, IT'S REALLY AN OVERVIEW OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE WILL UTILIZE TO CAPTION, TO CAPTURE AND MONITOR OUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THIS TOWN.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT WE ALSO KNOW DON'T KNOW THE ONES THAT, THAT ARE AS WELL.

UM, IF YOU'D LIKE THAT SEND YOU A TUTORIAL OR I SHOULD SAY A LINK TO THAT IN YOUR EMAIL, THAT MIGHT BE EASIEST THEN MOVING ON AND COMING BACK.

WELL, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE YOUR MOM, UM, IT'S, WE'RE VOTING ON AN ITEM, BUT THEN HE'S SHOWING US THE TOOL.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

WE ALL LEARN IT.

UM, WHAT I'LL LET COUNCIL DECIDE ANYBODY SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

ANYBODY NOT GOOD WITH MARK'S SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

COULD YOU LET BRUCE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T SEE OR HEAR HIM AND, BUT THANK YOU FOR TRYING AND WE WILL MOVE SO WE CAN VOTE ON THIS WITHOUT THE PRESENTATION.

SO WE'RE AT ITEM ONE.

THERE ARE NO OTHER CHANGES.

WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS TO CHRIS ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION ON SECOND AND FINAL READING TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR 2021 BUDGET TO REFLECT THE ADDITIONAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL REVENUE PER THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE? WE'LL MOVE FOR A SECOND.

I NEED DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, STATE BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, PLEASE THANK HIM FOR TRYING CHRIS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, WE MOVED NUMBER THREE UP AND CHRIS IS STILL UP AND THAT IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AND AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SELL, NOT TO EXCEED 5.250 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SERIES 2021 ARE SUCH OTHER APPROPRIATE SERIES DESIGNATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING SEWER PROJECTS.

THIS ALSO

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IS SECOND AND FINAL RATING, AND I DON'T THINK THERE WERE CHANGES REQUESTED LAST MONTH.

I, I, THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS FROM LAST MONTH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS IF I MAY.

YOU WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO JUST BRIEFLY, THESE ARE A FEW SLIDES THAT WERE PULLED FROM THE, UH, FYI, UH, 21 BUDGET PROCESS, JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, THESE ARE RE REVIEWED WITH YOU DURING THAT TIME, UM, AS PART OF THE, THE BUDGET APPROVAL BACK IN, UM, IN JUNE.

SO THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THE, UH, WAY PACK ORIGINALLY CAME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF, UM, A FEED INCREASE TO ONE 50.

UH, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF KIND OF, UH, OUR, OUR NEEDS AND DID A, UH, YOU KNOW, WE READ TYNER OUR BELL ON IT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT COULD WE REDUCE THE FEE TO, UM, OR INCREASE WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM INCREASE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ACCELERATE OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR STORM WATER? UM, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME WAS FROM 98, UH, PER IMPERVIOUS SQUARE FOOT UNIT 215, UH, AS WELL AS THE PLAN REVIEW, UH, FEE THAT WAS APPROVED.

YEAH.

AND SO THERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE, UH, STORMWATER UTILITY FUND.

UH, THE, THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM THIS ONE WAS THAT IN THE PAST, UH, GIVEN THE NEEDS CAPITAL NEEDS, WE WERE, UH, USING, SPENDING DOWN, UH, SOME BALANCE.

I BELIEVE SOMEONE HAS THEIR FACEBOOK ON IF THEY CAN NEWT THE FACEBOOK.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE FRANNIE, UM, BRIDGET, YOUR, IF Y'ALL COULD PUT ON MUTE WHILE CHRIS IS TALKING, THAT WOULD BE SUPER CAUSE WE'LL HEAR THE FACEBOOK.

THERE YOU GO, CHRIS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO AS PART OF THAT FY 21, UH, BUDGET WITH THE ADDITIONAL, UH, FEE REVENUE, UH, WE SEE HERE THAT WE ARE NO LONGER SPENDING DOWN FUND FUND BALANCE.

UH, AGAIN, THIS OVERVIEWS, WHAT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WOULD GENERATE, UH, 256,000 FOR THE FEE INCREASE IN APPROXIMATELY 365,000 FOR THE PLAN REVIEW FEE.

HERE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN CIP FOR STORM WATER, UM, WITH THE ASTERIX NOTED, UH, THAT THESE WOULD ONLY BE, UH, EXECUTED WITH A, UH, BOND AUTHORIZATION THAT, UH, CAME AT A LATER DATE.

UH, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THE PROJECTS AND POTENTIAL SCHEDULES.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I BELIEVE FROM A CONSOLE WOULD, UH, A MONTH AGO.

UM, SO THIS BREAKS IT DOWN BY FISCAL YEAR WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD FALL.

UM, AND OVER HERE WE HAVE THE, UH, PROJECT START DATE, AS WELL AS THE PROJECTED COMPLETION DATE, UM, THE TBD OR THE STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH ANY BUDGET APPROVAL.

UM, SO THESE ARE ESTIMATED, UM, AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATES FROM MEASURING AT THIS TIME, AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE TIMELINE ON THOSE PROJECTS, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT, UH, WITHIN YOUR PACKETS.

THERE IS THIS, UH, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM PROVIDED THIS, UH, TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT WAS A GREAT VISUAL OF THE START AND END DATES FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECTS AS PART OF THE CIP.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ON THIS? DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HIS ANSWERS FROM LAST MONTH'S QUESTIONS? GREAT.

THANKS FOR PROVIDING THAT, CHRIS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

THIS IS SECOND AND FINAL READING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOT TO EXCEED 5.250 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SERIES 2021, OR SUCH OTHER APPROPRIATE SERIES DESIGNATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING SEWER PROJECTS, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A, OH, WELCOME BACK.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU FOR ANNIE FOR BEING ON.

AND I THINK I SAW BRYAN AS WELL.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR HELPING US THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

UM, NEXT WE JUMPED TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS NOW ITEM THREE, AND THAT'S CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CERTAIN PROVISIONS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, TO AUTHORIZE MEETINGS, TO BE HELD TELEPHONIC OR OTHER ELECTRONIC MEANS.

UH, THIS IS FIRST READING SCOTT.

YOU WERE UP ON MY MUTE BUTTON RIGHT AWAY THIS TIME.

OKAY.

WHAT THIS IS, UH, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT YOU FIRST PASSED ON MARCH 17TH HAD A SECTION IN IT THAT ALLOWED FOR, UH, ELECTRONIC MEETINGS AND LIEU AND PHYSICAL MEETINGS TO CONDUCT PUBLIC BUSINESS.

SINCE THEN YOU RENEWED THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOUR TIMES WITH THE LATEST RENEWAL BEING LAST MONTH, OCTOBER 13TH, THE CURRENT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE SECURITY CARRIES THAT ONE, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO MEET ELECTRONICALLY EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 13TH.

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SO THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TONIGHT, WE'LL GIVE YOU A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND IT WILL CODIFY THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS BY A TELEPHONIC OR OTHER ELECTRONIC MEANS SPECIFICALLY, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS APPLICABLE TO PORTIONS OF CHAPTER TWO AND CHAPTER THREE OF THE TOWN CODE.

AND THE LANGUAGE IN THOSE PORTIONS IS AMENDED TO PROVIDE THE OPPOSITE OF ATTENDING MEETINGS.

EITHER IN PERSON CONDITIONS, PERMITTING, FOR EXAMPLE, TYPE CONDITIONS ARE NOT PERMITTING, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC OR VIA ELECTRONIC NEEDS, UH, PROVISIONS FOR PR FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT DURING A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THESE AMENDMENTS.

NEXT STEPS IS PENDING SUCCESSFUL.

FIRST READING TONIGHT, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE ON SECOND AND FINAL READING ON DECEMBER 8TH.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, FROM JUST A MOMENT AGO, DECEMBER 13TH, YOUR EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, THAT HAS THAT SECTION THAT APPLIES TO ELECTRONIC MEETINGS EXPIRES, AND THIS WOULD KICK IN PRIOR TO THAT EXPIRATION.

AND YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO RENEW THAT PART, THAT PORTION OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, WHEN, AND IF YOU RENEW YOUR EMERGENCY ORDINANCES AND THEN NEXT, UH, WE WOULD, UH, AMEND THE TOWN CODE IS NECESSARY TO INCLUDE THESE PROVISIONS FOR ELECTRONIC MEETINGS, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANKS SCOTT.

ANY QUESTIONS TO COUNCIL ON THIS? WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT? AND I HAD ASKED MARK WHEN, ON ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, IT GIVES US ALL FLEXIBILITY.

IF EVEN IF WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING IN PERSON AND SOMEONE'S OUT OF TOWN, THEY CAN NOW CALL IN LEGALLY THROUGH ZOOM AND BE PRESENT AT A MEETING, WHETHER THEY'RE CAUGHT UP IN TRAFFIC OR COULDN'T GET BACK IN TIME.

AND IT JUST KEEPS ALL ACCOUNTS.

SO WITH THE ABILITY TO MEET AS A WHOLE, UM, AND I THINK IT'S NICE TO SEE WE'RE MOVING WHERE WE CAN MEET THIS WAY.

IF WE HAVE TWO HURRICANES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NEVER MEET BEFORE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S ALL OVER THE COUNTRY EVACUATING.

SO I LIKE THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS FOR SCOTT? YEAH, IF I MAY MAYOR, UM, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS IS, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR, I UNDERSTAND IT MYSELF, BUT I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT IT OUT THERE.

THIS IS NOT THE NORM.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

WE'LL BE BACK IN OUR BRAND NEW CHAMBER AT TOWN HALL SO THAT EVERYONE CAN COME IN.

AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC SITUATION AND FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYONE TO DO THAT.

THIS IS LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, IT'S JUST A TOOL IN THE BOX SO THAT IF WE ARE OUT TOWN OR WHATEVER, AND THERE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WE CAN, WE CAN MEET THE WAY WE'RE MEETING TODAY.

AND IT'S ILLEGAL AS BEING PRESENT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY LAYMAN TERMS. THAT'S THE WAY I PUT IT.

UM, I, ALONG WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS, I'M SURE WE WANT TO GET BACK TO OUR REAL MEETINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES, UM, AND GET BACK TO NORMAL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST A, UH, A TOOL SO THAT IF WE CAN'T, FOR SOME REASON, WE CAN ALWAYS USE THIS AS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ONE OF US, TWO OF US OR WHATEVER, CAN'T BE THERE, IT'S LEGAL TO HOLD A MEETING.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? UM, THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED IT UP.

TELL YOU TOO, IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR OUR COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST COUNCIL, RIGHT? SCOTT, THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS IS FOR ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

IT APPLIES TO BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD TO AMEND CHAPTER THREE ALSO OF THE TOWN CODE AND, UH, COUNCILMAN TUMOR'S A HUNDRED PERCENT ON TRACK.

UM, IT ALSO APPLIES, UH, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS PANDEMIC WILL LAST OR IF THERE WILL BE ANOTHER, UH, BUT MOST MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE FEELING WELL AND THEY WANT TO BE PRESENT.

AND THERE'S A MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE NOT, UH, MAY HAVE SOME SYMPTOMS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CAN STAY HOME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR TRAVEL.

SO IT GIVES YOU THE ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT TOWN BUSINESS PUBLICLY.

IT GIVES A FLEXIBILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL.

SO IT'S A PERMANENT SOLUTION.

YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING.

AND WITH OUR COMMISSIONS, I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH A CORE I'M ON A COMMITTEE OR SO, AND NOW THEY CAN REALLY PUSH IT TO GET SOMEONE TO COME IN ON ZOOM, TO MEET AND THEIR VOTE COUNTS AND THEY ARE PARTICIPANTS IN THE MEETING.

SO VERY SMART.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.

IF NOT,

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IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO AUTHORIZE MEETINGS, TO BE HELD BY TELEPHONIC OR OTHER ELECTRONIC MEANS AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO, AS PRESENTED SOME OF YOUR SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION? GREAT.

SO THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, UH, AS OF TONIGHT AND WE MOVED TO COMING BACK IN PERSON AND WE HAVE ANYONE WHO IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN THIS IS FOR, FOR US TO USE.

AND, UM, THAT'S ALL, I GOTTA SAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THERE? THIS IS ACTUALLY A FIRST READING.

SO IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER.

SO SORRY.

I KNEW THAT THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.

THIS IS A PERMANENT ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS OUR FIRST READING AND WE WILL SEE IT AGAIN IN DECEMBER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR.

STEP OF SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED THAT BLESS YOU? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

UM, WE ARE MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

LET ME GET BACK TO MY AGENDA.

UM, HERE WE GO.

SO NEXT UP IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THAT TO DISCUSS FURTHER? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, APPROVE THE THREE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOUR EMOTION.

THANK YOU, SARAH.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? UM, GREAT INFORMATION.

I'D URGE EVERYONE TO PULL THE REPORTS UP FROM OUR, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.

IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING US ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, THEY'RE REALLY GREAT REPORTS.

IT GIVES YOU A REAL SPOTLIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, AS WELL AS OUR TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATING TO BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS THAT'S FOR YET 34 78, ONE AND CONTRACTUAL MATTERS RELATING TO BUCK WALTER PLACE, UH, 34 78 FIVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'LL BE BACK WITH ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, ROUGHLY 30 MINUTES.

LARRY.

YOU'VE GOT SOME REVERB THOUGH.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON,

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SORRY, MOM.

THAT'S OKAY.

WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN NO VOTES FOR CASTS, BUT THERE IS, UM, THERE IS MOVEMENT FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

IS THERE A NOMINATION? I'LL READ IT ALL FOR, FOR OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, CARRIE SMELTER AND MARY BELL ON NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE, CAROL PRINGLE FOR WEIGHT PACK, STAN ROGERS AND FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, MATTHEW YALCIN, KATHLEEN DUFFIN THERE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I WAS SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

ANY EVERYONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THEIR SECOND? WE HAVE A TERMS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.