Apr 26, 2021 County Council Regular Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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EVERYONE. THIS IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY APRIL 26.

IT'S 6 P.M. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING.

THEREFORE WE HAVE MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL IN PERSON AND MEMBERS WHO ARE ONLINE AS I CALL THE ROLL. PLEASE LET ME KNOW THAT YOU IN FACT ARE PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAWSON HERE COUNCILMAN FLOWING PRESENT COUNCILMAN GLOVER HERE WAS WHEN HER VERSION COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD HERE COUNCILMAN LAWSON BARR

COSTS AND PRESENT COUNCILMAN ELLEN COUNCILMAN ROBIN PRESENT. >> COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE RESIDENT. THE CHAIR IS HERE. THEREFORE WE DO CONSTITUTE A QUORUM. WOULD YOU ALL RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING? THE INVOCATION AND ALLEGIANCE WILL BE DONE BY COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE OF AURORA. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR LETTING US MEET TONIGHT.

LORD, WE THANK FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE THAT FREEDOM AND THAT RIGHT.

WE JUST PRAY THAT WE CONTINUE NEVER TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. AS ALL OF US ARE PUT IN SITUATIONS RIGHT NOW TO MAKE DECISIONS OR WE PRAY THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE FOR THE BETTER THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR WELL, WE PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA.

LORD THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEIR HAND ON THEM AS WELL AS THE REST OF THIS COUNTRY NAMELY PRAY AND THEN THANK YOU. PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? >> BEGGING MR. SOMERVILLE MAKES THE SECOND.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS .

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 8, 2021 and February 22, 2021]

I MEAN HOWARD MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND, PLEASE. I'LL SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE SECOND DOOLEY MOTION THEN SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED SAYING NONE THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS ? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.

[6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

AS OF CUSTOMARILY DONNING MEMBERS A COUNCIL WILL GET EVEN AS I'M CUSTOMARILY DONE RECOGNIZED EMPLOYEES AT THE BEGINNING OF MY MEN OR STRAIGHT REPORT EACH TIME I'VE BEEN HERE IN A MEETING WITH YOU ALL I'M GOING TO SKIP THE FIRST TWO TONIGHT CAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE IN PERSON BUT I DO NOT SEE THEM IN ATTENDANCE.

SO I'M JUST GONNA DO TO THIS EVENING FOR THE FOLKS ALONG WITH US.

I DON'T WANT TO DEPRIVE THOSE FOLKS THAT SAID THEY WOULD BE IN HERE IN PERSON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SEE THEM AND INTERACT WITH YOU IF THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.

SO OUR FIRST EMPLOYEE TONIGHT IS A MR E SAW BROWN. HE IS PARTICIPATING VIA ZUNE.

HE IS WORKS AT OUR HILTON HEAD AT AN AIRPORT IN THE AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING.

HE IS A SENIOR RESCUE FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS MANAGER OFFICER.

HE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR TWENTY SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AND AS THE SENIOR A ARE ALFALFA OPERATION OFFICER YOU SAW HIS RESPONSE A LIFE SAFETY AND PROPERTY SAFETY AS THEY RELATE AVIATION. HE ALSO HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ENSURING THE AIRPORT FACILITY REMAINS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STRICT REQUIREMENTS OF THE FAA IS PART 139 AIRPORT CLASSIFICATION PROGRAM. THE AIRPORT TRIGGERS OF CITIES ARE INSPECTED EVERY YEAR BY FAA AND HE SAW THESE OUR TEAM THAT HAS ENSURED THAT THE AIRPORT HITS MARKS EVERY YEAR FOR THAT TO REPORT WHEN CHIEF YEGOR RETIRED OVER A YEAR AGO JOHN RUMBLE TURNED TO E SAW AND ASK

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YOU SAW AN ADDITIONAL BIT OF A FIRE OFFICER READ OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR THE AIRPORT IS ALSO A PASTOR AND HE TAKES THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY AND HE SAYS THAT HIS MISSION IN LIFE IS SAVING SOULS BE THAT AT THE AIRPORT OR IN THE SANCTUARY ARE IN THE SANCTUARY CHURCH.

SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY UNIQUE THINGS. LET'S GIVE YOU SAW AROUND HE

SAW YOU SAW THAT YOU'RE ONLINE. >> YOU WANT TO SAY IT REAL QUICK? YES. SORRY YOU SAW IT HERE. IT'S GOOD TO YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT TO BE A PART OF THIS TEAM AND A GREAT HONOR FOR YOU TO BE RECOGNIZED BY MR. THERE WE ARE. WE ARE WE TRUST ME. I DO.

I TRY TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THOSE SHORT LIFE. I'M GLAD THAT RECOGNIZED THAT.

AND SO I THANK YOU, SIR FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND POWER OF ATTORNEY.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 27 1/2 YEARS AND I'M MEANINGFUL YEARS OLD GUY WILL AND HOPE THAT THEY'LL BE A GREAT DEAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT VERY. OUR NEXT EMPLOYEE ALSO WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND.

WE DO HAVE A PHOTO OF HIM THERE. DON'T PULL UP.

HIS NAME IS RON LEWIS AND HE WORKS IN OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. HE HAS EXTRA DUTIES BECAUSE HE ALSO HAS FROZEN EVERY DAY.

I SAY HE'S A LIFE TRADITION. HE'S BEEN EMPLOYEE, RUSTON SAID JULY 2017 AND OF COURSE AS AN ELECTRICIAN MR. LEWIS POINT A WIDE RANGE OF DUTIES TO INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION OR A PAIR OF POSSIBLE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS TO AGE THE EQUIPMENT LCD RETROFITTING THE BUILDING LIGHTING FIXTURES AND THE INSTALLATION OF REPAIRS TO LOW VOLTAGE NETWORK WIRING.

I THINK I ACTUALLY SAW HIM OUT IN THE PARKING LOT TODAY WORKING ALL LIGHTS OUT THERE AS A MEMBER OF OUR EMERGENCY CALL TEAM. MR. LEWIS ALSO CONDUCTED USES OUTSIDE OF HIS EXPERIENCE AND ELECTRICIAN TO MAKE PLUMBING AND CONSTRUCTION REPAIRS AS NEEDED. HIS HIGH LEVEL OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL ON POSITIVE TO MAKE HIM A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT MR. LEWIS TO SHARE PUBLICLY.

HE IS MARRIED TO HIS WIFE CHRIS FOR 31 YEARS. THAT'S VERY REMARKABLE.

AND THEY BOTH HAVE A PASSION AND LOVE FOR THEIR TWO HOUND DOGS.

KIMBER AND MOLLY. SO LET'S GIVE HIM AROUND THEN I HAVE THREE ANNOUNCED MUST DECIDE DOES ONE CALIFORNIA TACKLE SOMETHING HAPPENED RECENTLY APPROVED OF THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT UNDER THE 2021 FEDERAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP FUND A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING SURVEY OF THE BATTERIES AT FORT FREMONT WHICH IS A PROPERTY OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY AND IS OPERATED AS A PASS PARTNER. WE HAVE YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE UNDERWAY BUILD AN INTERPRETIVE CENTER OUT THERE FOR FREE MARKET FOR FREMONT AND THAT WILL BE OPENING THE SUMMER OF 2021 OR FORMING BERLIN. ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT OUT OF CAMP FORM EVERY OUT OF THIS EVEN IS IT TODAY FOR JUST A DAY. SECRETARY CHRISTY HALL FROM SOCCER ON THE HOME TEAM JOINS SEVERAL PEOPLE ON A VERY AND VERY NEW BRIDGE HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND THAT BRIDGE IS THE HEART OF A RIVER IN US 20 ONE BRIDGE AND THERE WAS A RIBBON CUTTING IN THERE DAYS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE OF MY EYES PLAYING THE STRUCTURE IF YOU NOTICE NOT ME OR THIS IS THIS IS THE BRIDGE THAT REPLACES THE VERY NARROW TWO LANE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER ST. HELENA OUT TO FREE UP AND OVER THE HARBOR.

ALLEN AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER SOMERVILLE COUNCIL MEMBER MR. GLOVER ROAD THERE YOU CAN SEE SECRETARY HALL THERE IN THE PICTURE SENATORS CAPS AND AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM MR. RIVERS FROM THE AREA. AND THAT'S EVERYONE LINED UP THERE TO CUT THE RIBBON.

SO I PIECE OF THAT IN MY POCKET SOMEWHERE. SO THAT WILL BE A TREASURED POSSESSION. BUT I WAS ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO GRAB OVER THAT BRIDGE TODAY ON THE WAY OFF AFTER THE RIBBON CUTTING.

SO IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY NICE BRIDGE. VERY GOOD WORK BY DEONTE AND TRIPLET ENGINEERING FIRM THAT BUILT THE BRIDGE. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO THANK

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I THINK THEY WERE DODGING SNAKES AND I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHAT YOUR CARBON ACCOUNTS IT WAS DOING WITH TITO MODELS THEY SHE PICKED UP. BUT YOU KNOW, LET US SAY I'M DOING MY REWARD. THANK YOU. I HAVE COME FROM THE CAVES DOWN

[7. PROCLAMATION PRESENTED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY DETENTION CENTER- CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS WEEK - COUNCIL CHAIRMAN JOSEPH F. PASSIMENT]

AND WE'RE AS CORRECTIONAL PERSONNEL WORK UNDER DEMANDING CIRCUMSTANCES AND FACE DANGER IN THEIR DAILY WORK LIVES OFTEN SACRIFICING PERSONAL AND FAMILY TIME TO PROVIDE A NECESSARY BUT THANKLESS, UNRECOGNIZED AND BEHIND THE SCENES SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WHEREAS THE STAFF OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY DETENTION CENTER HAS CONTINUALLY DEMONSTRATED THEIR SKILL AND PROFESSIONALISM IN RUNNING ONE OF THE FINEST FACILITIES IN THIS STATE NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL PROCLAIMS MAY 2ND THROUGH MAY 8 NATIONAL CORRECTION OFFICERS WE DEEMED IT THIS DAY 26 APRIL 2021 SIGNED BY MYSELF AS COUNTY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR BELIEVING IN US AND WE COULD DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT TOO ALSO. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT 2020 WAS HARD FOR ALL OF US BUT WE MANAGED TO GET THROUGH IT. OUR FACILITY IS ONE OF JUST A FEW FACILITY IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA WITH ZERO CASES OF EBOLA IN OUR GENERAL POPULATION AREA. AND WE WILL LET DONE IT WITHOUT THE FIND.

>> I'LL BE MEETING HIM IN HIS DEDICATED DOLLAR OF WORKS BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYBODY WHETHER SO WE CAN HELP EVERYBODY FROM COUNCIL BEHIND LOOK WITH ONE OF THE

PREVIOUS FAILED CHEESEBURGER JAKE. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

[8. PRESENTATION BY BARBARA JOHNSON FROM LOWCOUNTY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ON THE ANNUAL CONSOLIDATED PLAN]

MY VIDEO IS NOT WORKING. USUALLY IT'S MY MICROPHONE BUT THIS IS MY VIDEO.

I AM HERE TO VISIT THE RIBAUT PLANE BEAUFORT COUNTY LOCAL REGIONAL HOME CONSORTIUM

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WE HAVE ADOPTED THE FOLLOWING OBJECTS AS PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR REHABILITATION OF A HOUSING INCREASES THE ABILITY TO ADEQUATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE COURSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IMPORTANT HOUSING INITIATIVES TO ADDRESS HOMELESS PERSONS PERSONS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND THE ELDERLY TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF VALUABLE COMMUNITY. THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN CARRIED OUT THROUGH ANNUAL CLAIM.

THERE IS NO ADULT BOARD I'M SORRY. THERE'S NO BOARD APPROVAL OR ACTION REQUIRED TO THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN. HOWEVER, WE WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? C NONE.

WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BARBARA. AND WE ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO

HEARING FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

[9. US 278 INDEPENDENT REVIEW FINAL REPORT PRESENTATION – JARED FRALIX, ACA ENGINEERING]

PRESENTATION GERRIT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO BEGIN THAT? YES.

FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ON THIS. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT IS A REASON TO STAY THE ORDER OF A BILLION DOLLARS TO A GENERATIONAL PROJECT SAY THE LEAST. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GETS STARTED BACK IN AUGUST 1940 WHEN MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE LOCAL AREA GOT TOGETHER AND PETITION TO COUNT COUNCIL AND TOWN COUNCIL, AN INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING TO BE HIRED IN A REVIEW OF THE NOR DESIGN STUDY TO ENSURE IT MEETS THE NEEDS AND GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AS YOU RECALL THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING WIND BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES BETWEEN HE AND HIS STAFF. SENATOR DAVIS OTHERS SAY FINALLY IT WAS DETERMINED AND AWARDED IN NOVEMBER TO HCR WHERE 60 DAY TIME TO STUDY THIS AREA, STUDY THE CORRIDOR AND CURRENT DESIGN IN IT COME IN THE CONTRACT WITH HCR, A COMMITTEE OF SEVEN MEMBERS MADE UP OF ONE CANDIDATE THAT WENT DOWN THAT TO HILTON HEAD CITIZENS AT LARGE TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ONE MEMBER FROM JENKINS ISLAND TO ESTABLISH THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO LEAD AND DIRECT THE CONSULTANT. SO A NOSE PROCEEDING WAS GIVEN IN JANUARY.

THE FIRST MEETING WAS COMMENCED ON THE 19TH OF JANUARY. WE HELD SIX MEETINGS WITH OUR FIRST MEETING WITH OUR LAST MEETING THIS MORNING AS A GROUP OF THESE THE FINAL REPORT.

AND EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN OUR TARGETED 60 DAY TIMELINE, WE FELT IT WAS WORTHWHILE TO ENSURE THAT ALL OUR NEEDS ARE MET AND THAT IT WAS A THOROUGH PROCESS AND THAT ALL THE IDEAS AND COMMENTS ON THE COMMITTEE RIBAUT FORTH IN LOOKED AT AND ANALYZED. ALSO IN ADDITION ON THE EXTENDED TIMELINE WE DID FOR AN INTERVIEW. AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO PUSH BACK THEIR PLANS WITH HEARINGS LATER IN THE SUMMER TO ENSURE THAT THE REVIEW WAS COMPLETED AND THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR INCORPORATE INTO THEIR PLANS.

SO WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT EPR TO GO OVER THE FINER POINTS, OK.

>> THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DARYN AND YOUR STAFF ARE PRESENT TONIGHT

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WE HAVE THE NEXT ONE DO TOO. >> WE STARTED EARLY BY REQUESTING AS MUCH INFORMATION FROM DUTY AS THEY HAVE ON THE PROJECT DONORS GATHERING INFORMATION AND LOOKING ON THEIR WEBSITE FOR THE INFORMATION YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN ON THAT AS JERRY MENTIONED. WE STARTED MEETING WITH THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE BACK IN JANUARY AND THAT MEETING WAS EVERY OTHER WEEK UNTIL AS OF THIS MORNING WE HAVE A FINAL RAPID SESSION NEXT. AFTER AFTER MEETING WITH THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, WE FOCUSED ON THESE KEY QUESTIONS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THESE ARE FROM COUNSEL THAT LISTED OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES. THESE QUESTIONS THAT FIRST FOCUSED ON PROJECTED GROWTH AND GROWTH RATES. YOUTUBE PRESENTED THEN SAFETY OF VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS FOR ANY AUTHORITIES INVOLVED OR CONCEPTS.

AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES OUTSIDE WHAT THEY HAVE STUDIED.

SO THE NEXT LINE SO WE REVIEWED ALL THE ALTERNATIVES THE DUTY STUDY WE VIEWED THE GROWTH RATE OF ANALYSIS AND INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN THAT AS WELL AS ALL THE CRASH DATA FOR FIVE

YEARS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND AS WELL AS AVAILABLE FUNDING TO. >> THE NEXT TWO WE USE ALL THAT INFORMATION AND WE STUDY TODAY AND CONSIDER NEW CONCEPTS ALONG SEVENTY THREE JENKINS IN THIS JOURNEY ON INCLUDING FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC DRAINS SEPARATING CHANGES REVERSIBLE LANES FRONT OF ROADS SOME COMBINATION OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES WE IMPACTS TO LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN REGARD TO TRAFFIC PATTERNS WHILE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE RIBAUT TRAVEL TIME OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AS WELL AS PROPERTY IMPACTS.

AND THEN WE TAKE A LOOK THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG 270 BATTLING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT DUE TO POTENTIAL INCREASED BY YOU AS THE MULTI USE PATHWAY IS EXTENDED OVER TO BLUFFTON. AND LASTLY WE LIKE TO BE THE CHARACTER OF THE ROAD AS IT RELATES TO THE SPEED AND THE LANDSCAPE AND JUST THE CHARACTER OF SO WHO? I HAVE REVIEWED ANALYSIS CAN BE SEEN IN THE REPORT AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE . SO AS WE GO TO THE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES. CONSIDER CONSTRUCTION AND IT APPEARS THAT THE MOST LIKELY AND THAT THE LEAST IMPACTFUL ALTERNATIVE THAT DUTY IS LOOKING AT IS WHY NAME EXISTING 278 ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRIDGES. WITH THAT I RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUSED MAINLY EAST OF THE BRIDGES BUT WE DID WANT TO BRIEFLY POINT OUT THAT WE LOOKED AT THE CONCEPT OF HAVING ANOTHER ENTRANCE ON THE HILTON HEAD OTHER THAN US TO 70 THAT CAN BE EVALUATED IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS AN IDEA THAT WAS SHOT UP BY MULTIPLE MEMBERS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. BASED ON THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE NOT JUST FOR CONGESTION MITIGATION HAVEN FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS BECAUSE TO YOU A CASE IS OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS ON OR OFF THE ISLAND TO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT FROM THERE HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED AND ARE IN BUT I WANT TO REACH A TO THAT ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FIRST IN REGARDS TO SIGNAL TIMING, THE EXISTING THING GOES ON 78 OR SIX OR EIGHT DAYS TIME AND WHICH BASICALLY MEANS IS GOING IN MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS WE SEE ARE GREEN TIME AT INDIVIDUAL TIMES. BASED ON OUR STUDY WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE

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>> THERE ARE SEVERAL KEY QUESTIONS THAT GOING ASKED AND MAYBE NOT ANSWERED DIRECTLY BY DUTY AS THE ANSWERS ARE BEING ANALYZED. BUT TO DO DUTY IS BUYING THE DNIEPER PROCESS AND WE'RE DOING THIS BY SOME OF THE ANSWERS WE'LL BE GIVING AND CARING WHEN THEY SHOW THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL KEY ITEMS THAT CAME OUT IN CONVERSATION AS A COMMUNITY THAT WILL HELP THE PUBLIC EVALUATE THE ALTERNATIVES.

THESE ITEMS INCLUDE THE COST FOR EACH ALTERNATIVE AND AS WELL AS EACH INTERSECTION CONCEPT. IN ADDITION, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND SCALE THAT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS USE INCLUDING MYSELF IS STILL SOMEWHAT CONFUSING USES THAT IN A DRAFT GREEN SCALE WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A TWO GRAINS COUNCIL FOR ANY TALIBAN ANALYSIS WOULD BE A BETTER SOLUTION TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE SLAVING ALONG THESE UP. AND AS WITH ANY UTTERANCE THAT THEY COME ABOUT, THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A COMPLEX ANALYSIS TO DO THAT WHICH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COMPLETE. THE ALTERNATIVE THIS D.A. SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOCATE THE NEXT LINE. ONE OTHER ITEM THAT CAME OUT FROM THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS THE CHANGE IN EXISTING SPEED LIMITS FROM 55 ON THE BRIDGES TO 50 ON JENKINS ISLAND TO 45 MILE AN HOUR THROUGH THE STREAM COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE SPEED LIMIT.

THE SPEED LIMIT TO THIS AREA. SO BASED ON THAT, THE PROPOSAL IS USED TO THE ROAD INCLUDING THE FACT THAT SIDE LIVES IN WATER USE PASS A FORTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR IS AN APPROPRIATE SPEED LIMIT THROUGH THE CORRIDOR AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD.

NEXT LINE IS AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE WE GET SOME ATTENTION TO THE BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS.

>> THOSE JUST THE INCREASED VOLUMES THAT ARE ANTICIPATED AS WELL AS THE NEED TO KEEP THE STONE AGE COMMUNITY CONNECTION AND NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOW DESIGNATED AS TRADITIONAL CULTURAL PROPERTY. THE NEXT EITHER DEFINED IN THE REPORT AS WELL AND AS THE TOWN WE HAVEN'T HAND HAS THE BEAR AWARD WINNING PAST THE PROVEN TO BE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE ON THE ISLAND AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS SIMILAR CRITERIA TO THOSE PATHWAYS THAT WOULD INCLUDE OF THE PATHWAYS AS WELL AS THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK AS WELL AS THE DISTANCE FROM THE DRIVEWAY. SO THOSE ARE REPRESENTED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SIDEWALK TO GO INTO THE NEXT LINE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE ROADWAY AND I WAS AT COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THIS IS A KEY I'M AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTRANCE TO HILL AND AS WE MAKE IN THE DRIVERS LAYER THAT THEY'RE ENTERING AND HELPING HAND AND THEY'RE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES PEDESTRIANS ALONG THE ROAD DURING OUR STUDY THE TOWN IN HIGHER LAND PLANNING FIRM TO HELP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING YOU INSIDE TO ON WHAT

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AND WE HAVE PARKING FOR LAND FIRMS ALREADY AS PART OF THIS STUDY.

SO THEY ARE UP TO DATE ON THE WORK WE'VE DONE. AND THEN OUR LAST LINE.

LASTLY, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION SEVERAL AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE 278 RIGHT AWAY THAT COULD CHANGE TO THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVE INVESTIGATED SEVERAL THE LOCATIONS TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL TRAFFIC PATTERNS OF LOCAL COMMUNITY WHICH MIGHT NOT BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PROJECTS. SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS WE FEEL ARE BETTER SERVED TO HAVE COUNTY ACCOUNTING AND SHALL CONTROL OVER THOSE LOCATIONS IF THE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. THIS WOULD ALLOW THE LOCAL ROADS TO BE MORE CONTEXT SENSITIVE AND AREA TO ALLOW LOCAL STAFF AND LOCAL ENGINEERS TIMELESS CONNECTIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, THE PARALLEL RAIL ON NORTH OF SYRIA MAY BE CONNECTING SQUIRE PERFECT US RAILROAD AS WELL AS MAYBE AN EXTENSION CHAMBERLAIN THE SPANISH GIRLS.

THESE LOCAL ROADS COULD IN FACT IMPROVE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA JUST TO GET LOCAL TRAFFIC AND

NOT JUST A SO. >> ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.

IF WE FEEL LIKE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THIS REPORT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND UNCOVERED A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER AND ANSWERED A LOT OF SEVERAL KEY QUESTIONS THAT THAT BROUGHT UP.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE STILL SOME ITEMS THAT REQUIRES DUTIES, ATTENTION AND I THINK WE'VE OUTLINED THOSE IN THE RECOMMENDATION SO THAT WE COMPLETE OUR REPORT AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE VERY MUCH ENJOYED WORKING WITH THE OVERSIGHT, JERRY THAT YOU STOP THROUGH THIS AND I THINK THIS IS A GIVE IT FOR THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. NOW GERARD OR PHIL, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE? YOU'VE PRESENTED THE FINAL REPORT TO US.

I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS ALSO TO THE HEAD. >> YES.

WE HAVE A PLANNED MEETING TO MAKE THIS PRESENCE KNOWN FOUNDATION THE CAPE TOWN COUNCIL ON MONDAY. OUR NEXT. AND THEN FROM THERE THE BALL IS IS REALLY IN COUNTY COUNCIL ON TOWN COUNCIL'S COURT. OUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE PROVIDE FOREST FINANCE TO BE WE THE COUNTY OR COUNTY COUNCIL IN A LETTER THAT ASK TO REVIEW THE REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED WITHIN THE REPORT AND PROVIDE RESPONSE BACK TO US COUNTY AND TOWN IN REGARDS FOR . SO THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION BUT WOULD BE FOR YOU GUYS TO GIVE US THAT DIRECTION.

VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, FATHER.

ANY COMMENTS TO BE MADE BY ANY MEMBER OF COUNTY COUNCIL? >> MR. HARVEY SHARP.

THANK YOU. JUST A QUESTION. BUT LAST WE HAD A UPDATE ON THIS PROCESS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE ITSELF JUST LIKE SOME ASSURANCE THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED AND EVERYTHING'S OKAY

WITH THEM. >> I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MADE A WE AND I BELIEVE IN MEETINGS SINCE THEN ALSO OR THAT DRAFT REPORT OR EXCUSE AFTER THE MIDTERM PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE IN COUNCIL SHORTLY THEREAFTER. WE HAD A DRAFT.

AND WE HAD A LOT COMMENTS PROVIDED BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THEN THE CONSULTANT. BUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THOSE RESPONSES AND THAT WAS WHAT WE COORDINATED ON THIS MORNING TO ENSURE THOSE WERE ANSWERED APPROPRIATELY.

THERE WAS ONE OR TWO SMALL MOMENTS. BUT BUT OVERALL AS THE SENSE WAS PROVIDED AS THE REPORT HAS PROVIDED. OK.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MCCALLUM. >> HEY, JARRETT.

I'M THE LAST PAGE. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL AREAS STUDY POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.

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NUMBER THREE ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OLD WILD WOODS ROAD WILD HORSE ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS APPEARS AS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO ESA THE GOP TO THE COUNTY FOR THE TOWN TO CONDUCT FURTHER STUDY ON THAT WHEN THOSE RECOMMENDED WHO MAY WHERE THEY ARE MORE SPECIFIC OR ARE THEY JUST GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS

FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO THERE? >> THE YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE'S EXHIBITS THAT ALONG

WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT RIGHT? >> YES.

IS PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE ALREADY BUT BASICALLY THEY ARE A LITTLE OPEN ENDED AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THERE NEEDS TO BE IN THE CASE OF WILD HORSE AND COUNTRY, DOES THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED INTERSTATE OR AROUND ABOUT THERE'S STILL SOME

DETERMINATION OF WHAT THAT MEANS. >> IT JUST NEEDS TO BE FURTHER STUDIED, EVALUATED. BUT THERE COULD BE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT.

OFF THE MAIN RUN WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THE NAME RIGHT MISS THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE MAKING

TODAY. >> YEAH. WELL WHAT MILES OF HORSE AND COUNTRY WHERE THOSE TWO INTERSECT REALLY ARE NEEDED TO 78.

>> YOU MAY REMEMBER I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL ABOUT WILD HORSE. I'M SORRY ESQUIRE POST INTO

DURING 1978 AND CONGESTION WAS THERE. >> I DON'T SEE THAT AS A SUGGESTION TO FURTHER STUDY. DID YOU INDICATE TO ME THAT THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION BEING EXTENDED TO RECONFIGURING THAT SECTION THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE INDEPENDENT STUDY? LEONA, YOU ANSWERED THAT SAID DEPENDING ON WHAT INTERCEPTION OR CONFIGURATION THE DINE AT 270 AIDS AND WILD HORSE AND ALSO TO SURI AND SQUIRE POE YOU KNOW THERE THERE IS SOME

POTENTIAL TO MOVE TRAFFIC AND MINIMIZE LEFT TURNS. >> SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE TURNS AS POPE YOU GIVE THEM A LOT WORSE WHICH WOULD MEAN MORE TRAFFIC USING WILD HORSE.

SO FROM OUR IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE TOWN THAT INTERSECTION WHILE SOME YOUNG TREES SEEMS TO BE CURRENTLY BUSY RIGHT NOW AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC COULD MEAN TO POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS THERE BE SOME TURN LANES OR SIGNAL. WE KIND OF LEFT THAT ON DUTY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO USE THEN THEY WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS TOPIC YOU'D BE USING. WELL AT THAT POINT. YEAH.

>> SO IF WE'RE GOING WESTBOUND STARTING MAY GET SOME QUIET OPEN THROUGH WESTBOUND TO 78 HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S NO REAL ACCESS TO LAND FOR A GRADUAL ENTRY ONTO 278. IS THAT PART OF A CONSIDERATION HERE?

>> WESTBOUND? YEAH, WESTBOUND JUST MUCH. WHY I WONDER WHY I PULLED ON

78. >> THERE'S A LIGHT THERE AND TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY UP 20 30 CARS AT A TIME WHEN YOU MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN. YOU HAVE TO GO INTO ONE OF THE LANES OF TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, MERGING AND THERE'S NO FRENCH. SO I DON'T SEE THAT HERE ANYWHERE. YES, THAT DOES A PART OF THE TWO DAYS SIGNAL CONFIGURATION.

SO WHEN THEY LEFT. PEOPLE ARE TURNING LEFT ON TWO HOURS AFTER HE'S GONE TO 78.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO RIGHT AND GO RIGHT WESTBOUND ONTO TO SEND A SEPARATE HIS BALANCES ON THIS CAR FROM. THEY WOULD GO AT THE SAME TIME AS THE WESTBOUND ON THE 278.

SO THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SIGNAL PHASE ACTION. >> THEY'LL HAVE A PHASE WHICH WILL STILL BE ENTERING THE TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC. THEY'RE BACKED UP.

SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY FOR THAT TRAFFIC RULES AS WELL. I'M TRYING TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THIS TO DEATH BUT IT'S GOOD THE TRAFFIC BACKED OFF. NOBODY WANTS TO GO AND LET'S HAVE EMERGENCY AND LOSE THAT FOUR OR FIVE CARS COULD MAKE THE TURN REDUCE SOME OF THAT LINE. IT'S GOING BACK UP TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE BUT I DON'T SEE THIS ANYWHERE. JAROD, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YET.

>> THE MERGE MERGING IS A GOOD THING AND A BAD THING YOU DOWN FROM THE TRAFFIC WORLD.

>> THEY THINK PHIL IS TRYING TO SCRAP IS THE MERGE IS NOT THE KEY COMPONENT.

THE AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME FOR THAT RIGHT IS GOING TO BE INCREASED WITH A TWO FACED YOU KNOW, VERSUS A SIGNAL BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE SYNCHRONIZED WITH ANOTHER MOVEMENT VERSUS

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AND THEN THEY'RE FORCED TO MERGE WITH THE YIELD. AND THAT'S IN ADDITION WITH THE YIELD THERE'S NOT ENOUGH GAP TO THE WESTBOUND ROUTE TRAFFIC. AND THAT'S WHY THIS ATTACK OCCURRED. SO BASICALLY NO MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT CLEARING OF OK. I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO PICK UP ANY MORE.

YOU'VE COUNSELED YOUR CALL ON THAT. ARE YOU CONCERNED IF YOU INSTEAD OF THERE AND I DON'T SEE IT BEING ADDRESSED TO MY SATISFACTION WITH AN ADEQUATE EXPLANATION JUST YET. SO I'LL I'LL I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YES, MR. ROBBINS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I MIGHT JUST SHARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. HAVING FOLLOWED THIS FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN FOR MANY MONTHS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS NEEDED.

COUNSEL STEPPED FORWARD. WE DID IT WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT.

SENATOR DAVIS WHO WE CONTINUE TO THINK PARTICULARLY FOR HIS LEAD IN GETTING THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK MONEY. MY TAKE ON THIS THAT IT WAS VERY PROFESSIONALLY DONE BY.

BY HDR I THINK JARED DID A GREAT JOB OF LEADING AND I THINK THE OVERSIGHT PIECE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE WORKED. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS BEING HEARD IN THE OVERALL PROCESS. THIS IS SOMETHING ACTUALLY THAT PROBABLY GOES BEYOND WHAT WOULD NORMALLY HAPPEN IN PROJECT THIS TYPE.

BUT I THINK IT WAS NEEDED AND WELL EXECUTED. THERE WERE A LARGE NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT WERE ON THE TABLE THAT WERE RESOLVED THAT WON'T GO BACK THROUGH.

AND I REPEAT WHAT HDR HAS MENTIONED. I WILL COMMENT ON TWO.

ONE HAD TO DO WITH THE GROWTH RATE WHICH THEY VERIFIED WAS REASONABLE AND THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU LOOK AT IT IT WILL REQUIRES SIX LANES ON ON THE BRIDGES AND AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF SIX LANES THROUGH THE MORE CONGESTED AREAS. THE INTERESTING PART IS THAT EVEN IF THE GROWTH RATE WAS LOWER YOU'D STILL NEED THE SIX LANES.

IN FACT SOME PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE THAT WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED THE SIX LANES NOW.

SO THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN OF A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN PUT TO BED.

I THINK THE SECOND ONE IT WAS BIG WAS WHETHER OR NOT FOLLOWING THE CURRENT ROADWAY THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND I THINK THEY'VE SPOKEN ELOQUENTLY TO THAT. THEY LOOKED AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

CLEARLY LITTLE IS KNOWN AS ALTERNATIVE 5 AND 6 WHICH KIND OF WENT OFF THE ALIGNMENT DON'T SEEM TO WORK BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY HAVE TWICE THE IMPACT ON RELOCATIONS, TWICE THE IMPACT ON WETLANDS AND COST ON A MILLION DOLLARS MORE. SO I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT GOT PUT TO BED DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO THE BRIDGES.

BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY PUSHBACK FROM THE BRIDGES AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A NEW SET OF NEW SET OF BRIDGES . I WAS PLEASED TO READ THE PART ON JENKINS ISLAND WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE EVERYBODY KIND MOVING TOWARD TWO THINGS.

ONE, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE USE WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE CONNECTION UNDER THE BRIDGES.

THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT ALLOWS KIND SEPARATION FOR THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE.

AND SECONDLY, THERE'S A LOT OF TOWN ON LAND ON THE NORTH SIDE WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE REQUIRED AS A CONSTRUCTION LANE ANYWAY AND THAT CAN BECOME PERHAPS A SERVICE ROAD IN TOTAL . SO IN THE END THE JENKINS ISLAND FOLKS WOULDN'T KNOW.

HOWEVER FOLKS SEEM TO BE PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE HEARING ON THE STONING PIECE. THE GUYS HAVE MENTIONED QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SUGGESTED AS RECOMMENDATIONS AS I REFLECTED ON THE REPORT. MY FIRST REACTION WAS WELL GEE THEY THEY DIDN'T REALLY GIVE US THAT PROJECT WHAT WHAT THE SOLUTION IS AND THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT I THINK WHERE THEY ENDED UP WAS A VERY PROFESSIONAL PIECE TO PLACE TO BE AND THAT WAS THEY'RE NOT THE DESIGN TEAM. THEY'RE REVIEWING IT.

THE DESIGN TEAM STILL HAS EXERCISES TO GO THROUGH. BUT THEY POINTED OUT A SERIES OF THINGS THAT OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED IN THOSE DESIGNS SO ALL IN ALL I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY TO APPROACH THAT. SO I SAY WELL DONE.

HOPEFULLY THE QUESTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY ARGUING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BEEN ANSWERED AS JARED MENTIONED. I THINK THERE WAS A MEETING

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YES, WELL DONE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. CUNNINGHAM? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, JARED. IF I OVERLOOKED THIS, I APOLOGIZE IN REPEAT YOURSELF.

I KNOW AT ONE POINT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT I THINK IT'S CALLED A OKATIE BOULEVARD CENTER AND 170 IT'S THAT INTERSECTION WHERE PEOPLE CAN TURN LEFT OR TURN RIGHT IN A TURN LANE.

I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING TO SEE IF WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT OFF TO STOP THE LEFT TURN BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF REX ARE HAPPENING THERE. DO YOU KNOW DO YOU MEAN RIBAUT WROTE THEM FROM TALKING ABOUT YOU TALKING ABOUT A MARKET WHERE THEY CAN BE EARNEST IN

TIME IN THE MEDIA? >> YES. SO AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT RIGHT LANES BACKING UP AND THEY'RE STOPPING FOR PEOPLE TO COME ACROSS THE LEFT LANE IS CONTINUING TO GO AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING T. IS THAT INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT ALL OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S ON 170? IT'S LIKE RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. YEAH, RIGHT.

THAT 170 EAST AVENUE IN BLUFFTON THAT'S OUR PROJECT, OK.

I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED IN A LATER ACTION

ITEM IN AN AGENDA ITEM LATER IN THE THANK YOU. >> I SEE NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS THEREFORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE I'M SORRY MR. HER VISION.

THANK YOU. JUST ONE REAL QUICK ONE BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS THE CURRENT FUNDING SET ASIDE IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE ECONOMICALLY AND WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS? EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD TODAY AND AS THE CURRENT ZION'S ARE ARE DEVELOPED THEN

THE FUNDING THAT'S IN PLACE IS SUFFICIENT. >> HOWEVER, FURTHER QUESTIONS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CONTINUE TO SEARCH OUT OBVIOUSLY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T RUN FURTHER FUNDING COMPLICATIONS IF THE DESIGN CHANGES OR CONSTRUCTION PRICES RISE AS INFLATION RISES WE STILL HAVE A LONG TIME FOR THE FINISHED BUILD.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD QUIT SEARCHING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

AS OF TODAY WE ARE SUFFICIENT FUNDING. >> ONE MORE QUESTION AND I

GUESS THANK YOU. >> AND JERRY, DESPITE MORE OF A COMMENT I KNOW THAT THIS HAS GONE THROUGH MANY TIMES BUT WE WERE WRONG BACK IN 2011 OR 2010 WHEN IT CAME TO THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT IF IF WE'RE WRONG AGAIN THIS TIME I DON'T THINK THERE'S A RIGHT ANSWER TO IT. BUT JUST KIND OF CURIOUS I GUESS THE ONE THING THAT KEEPS JUMPING OUT AT ME AND I KNOW IT'S GONE THROUGH WITH THE REPORT AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUT JUST WHAT DO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT YET?

>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A GOOD CAUSE OF CONCERN SINCE SINCE THEN THE MODEL HAS BEEN UPDATED AND IT'S A MODEL IS NOT AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF REAL LIFE.

THAT IS THE BEST THAT WE HAVE TO DESIGN. SO THAT MODEL HAS BEEN UPGRADED WITH ALL THE LATEST INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THEIR ACCOUNTS.

THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT ARE BEING USED OUR PREVIOUSLY TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY JUST BEFORE GOING SO THEY ACTUALLY WORK OUT NICELY WITH REGARDS EFFORT AND THEY MODEL THOSE THEY INTERPRETED THOSE TRAFFIC LIGHTS BACK TO THE MODEL SO WE CAN NEVER DESIGN SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY FOOLPROOF DESIGN AND TO THE BEST INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE

AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR JARED . YEAH, HE MENTIONED PRESENTING TO THE HILTON HOTEL IN KENNESAW. WHAT DATE IS THAT AND WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE AND IS THAT THE FULL COUNCIL OR IS IT TO A COMMITTEE? IT IS A THIRD AND PERHAPS A WEEK FROM THE DAY I BELIEVE AND I BELIEVE IT'S A SPECIAL

MEETING OF ALL COUNCIL ON WOULD IT BE DONE VIRTUAL? >> YES, SIR.

AND I NEED TO REQUEST A SPECIAL LIMITATION IF YOU DO THAT OR SIMILAR TO OURS BUT IF YOU LIKE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING THAT WOULD BE A SPECIAL REQUEST AND I JUST WANTED YOUR PART

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OF THAT. >> THANKS. >> OK.

[10. DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR 2020 BY EXTERNAL AUDITOR’S MAULDIN & JENKINS CPA’S AND ADVISORS.]

ARE. >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU ALL FROM YOUR STATE AGAIN. >> AGAIN, GOOD EVENING.

HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL. MY NAME IS DAVID IRWIN WITH MALDEN JENKINS.

I WAS A PARTNER IF YOU EVER TO RESOLVE ISSUES AUDIT OF THE COUNTY'S MADE STATEMENTS AND SORT OF APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS YOU THE RESULTS OF THIS AUDIT. I HATE THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON BUT GOD WILLING

HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL SOON RETURN TO NORMAL. >> AND WE CAN I CAN BE THERE IN PERSON FOR NEXT YEAR'S PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY

ON STAGE TOP FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. >> SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE YOU ALL AN OVERVIEW OF OUR REPORT IF YOU WILL.

THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT HIGHLIGHTS. TALK ABOUT THE RESULTS THE COMPLIANCE REPORT THAT WE ISSUED IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR AUDIT DISCUSS SOME INFORMATION THAT THE AUDITING STANDARDS WILL REQUIRE TO COMMUNICATE WELL AND TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES. >> THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COUNTY'S MANAGEMENT AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS YOUR INDEPENDENT EXTERNAL AUDITORS RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ISSUE AN OPINION ON. WE CONDUCTED OUR AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENTAL ALL AND STANDARDS AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS.

>> AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE'RE ISSUING A CLEAN OR UNMODIFIED OPINION ON MR. OR

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. >> THIS IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT IN OUR OPINION THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY STATED IN ALMOST ALL RESPECTS.

AND OF COURSE ARE JOINT KIND OF OF MAKING THIS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK WHEN I

SPOKE WITH YOU. >> BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL.

WE JUST THANK YOUR STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK DUE A VARIETY OF FACTORS THIS YEAR OF ALL THAT AND OBVIOUSLY CAME WITH ITS OWN UNIQUE SET OF CHALLENGES WHEN YOU ARRIVED AT THE COUNTY IN OCTOBER . SO WE WERE ALL IN A GOOD FISCAL YEAR WHICH THEN ENDED THREE MONTHS BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN HARD TO YOU. NEVERTHELESS, IT WAS STILL HER RESPONSIBILITY AS THE NEW CFO TO OVERSEE THE AUDIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDED

EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. >> AND WE ALSO FACTORING IN THE PANDEMIC OBVIOUSLY AND ALSO THE NUMEROUS STAFF ORDERS THAT OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT LEFT THOSE DEPARTURES. WHITNEY HAYS THERE THEIR STAFF. THEY REALLY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB REGAINING SOME SOME VERY UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING OUR AUDITING MY MY WORK HARD TO ADDRESS ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS AND GIVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET FINALIZED BY THE STATES INSTEAD OF DEADLINE. SO AGAIN, A SPECIAL THANK YOU. THEIR HARD WORK WAS VERY MUCH

APPRECIATED THIS YEAR. >> OFFER AN OVERVIEW OF YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

>> YOU ALL PREPARE WHAT IS CALLED A COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL OTHERWISE KNOWN AS KAFFIR CARNIVAL REQUIRES THE INCLUSION OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT GOES ABOVE BEYOND THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT REPORTING PROCESS. THIS DOCUMENT IS SUBMITTED ANNUALLY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF WASN'T JUST THE WAY THEY PUT IT THROUGH A PRETTY STRINGENT REVIEW PROCESS. THEY HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF

AT WHICH TO REPORT IT AS WELL AS A SPECIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. >> WHEN THEY LOOK AT YOUR CAFOD THEIR GOAL WAS NOT TO ASSESS THE FINANCIAL JAILING BUT RATHER THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE READER TO YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN THIS REPORT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO THEMSELVES AND THROUGH THIS REVIEW THAT YOU AWAY IS ONCE AGAIN AWARDED THE COUNTY. THE SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL AND THAT IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 19 AND THAT CERTIFICATE IS INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S REPORT AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE 11TH YEAR IN A ROW THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE.

SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL ON THAT. THIS IS A VERY IMPRESSIVE DOCUMENT AND ONE THAT YOU'VE ALSO BEEN PROUD OF . AS YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL

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STATEMENTS ONE SECOND ALWAYS LIKE A PLANT. >> IS THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION ANALYSIS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE DNA. THIS BEGINS ON PAGE FOR YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IS RIGHT AFTER OUR ALL OPINION. AND IF YOU GET THE CHANCE I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THIS SECTION. IT'S ONLY 15 OR SO PAGES LONG.

IT'S WRITTEN BY MANAGEMENT AND IT REALLY DOES A GOOD JOB OF INTRODUCING AND SUMMARIZING BASIC FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL AS PROVIDING AN ANALYTICAL OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE ALSO QUITE A BIT OF COMPARATIVE INFORMATION IN THIS SECTION. THIS DISCLOSES FINANCIAL ACTIVITY FOR BOTH FISCAL YEARS 20 BECAUSE HE WAS 19. SO TO ME THAT HAS A LOT OF VALUE TO THE READER.

IT GIVES YOU A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY OF THE CURRENT, YOUR ACTIVITY. WE FIND THE FACT WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRIOR YOUR NUMBERS BEAR TO COMPARE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR RECORD I CAN SERVE UNDERSTAND YOU ALL NOT WANTING TO READ ALL 200 PAGES OF THIS DOCUMENT COVER TO COVER IT BUT IF YOU CAN A GOOD ALTERNATIVE IS TO READ THAT THE MBNA NOW ACCOUNT IS FACING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE BROKEN UP INTO THREE COMPONENTS. THE FIRST WHICH IS YOUR GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. NOW THE GOVERNOR WHAT STATEMENTS PROVIDE A BROAD VIEW OF THE COUNTY'S OPERATIONS IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A PROVINCE LIKE A

BUSINESS. >> ALL THE CALLS, ALL OF THE COUNTIES FUNDS ARE COMBINED AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES OR BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES AND THIS SLIDE JUST GIVES YOU THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS ONLY GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTY IN THE YEAR WITH ASSETS IN DEFERRED OUTFLOWS RESOURCES OF APPROXIMATELY 240 MILLION OF THAT AMOUNT AROUND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE OR

CAPITAL ASSETS NET OF ACCUMULATE DEPRECIATION. >> YOU ALSO GET AROUND THREE HUNDRED SIXTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS IN ASSETS LIABILITIES IN DEFERRED UP DEFERRED INFLOWS OR RESOURCES WHICH RESULTED IN AN ENDING NET POSITION OF AROUND 400 78 MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S AN INCREASE OF ABOUT SIXTY SIX POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS COMPARED TO PRIOR YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR REVENUES THERE ARE AROUND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR. THAT'S AROUND FORTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS HIGHER THAN IN YOUR 19. THIS IS REALLY THE RESULT OF THE FORTY FIVE DOLLARS IN SALES TAX REVENUE THAT WAS COLLECTED WHAT EXPENSES THEY

WERE THEY WERE COMPARABLE TO PRIOR YEAR. >> THEY INCREASED BY ABOUT 5 MILLION. THEY WERE AROUND NINETY MILLION DOLLARS AS OF THIS YEAR 20 HEY YOU CAN MIND YOUR NET POSITION . IT'S NOT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IN THE FORM OF CASH TO SPEND AS YOU SEE IT. NET POSITION IS MERELY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASSETS AND LIABILITIES ONLY A PORTION OF WHICH IS CASH ON HAND.

SO AGAIN THIS IS THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS. THE GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENTS . THAT BEING SAID THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL SEE THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL ACTIVITIES REPORT IN THIS MANNER IN THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE COUNTY. THE FOCUS IS MORE SO ON INDIVIDUAL THEMSELVES.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND COMPONENT YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THOSE ARE DIFFERENT LEVEL STATEMENTS. AGAIN THIS WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THIS COMPONENT FOCUSES ON INDIVIDUAL PARTS OF ACCOUNTING REPORTS YOUR OPERATIONS IN MORE DETAIL

THAN THAT OF THE GOVERNOR WANTS STATEMENTS. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF ACCOUNTING, YOUR PRIMARY INTEREST YOU ALL IS A GENERAL FUND.

IT'S THE MAIN OPERATING FORM OF THE COUNTY AND THEREFORE COUNCIL MAJORITY OF YOUR

REVENUES RECEIVING FUNDS. >> WE A COUPLE CHARTS THESE NEXT YEAR, THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES THAT BREAKS DOWN THE GENERAL FUND'S REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE YEAR TO REVENUES OF THE GENERAL FUND AROUND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN POINT NINE MILLION.

THAT'S AN INCREASE ABOUT TWO POINT TWO MILLION COMPARED TO PRIOR YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE GENERAL FUNDS REVENUES ARE DERIVED FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND THAT TOTAL AROUND A HUNDRED SEVENTEEN THIS YEAR AND THAT REPRESENTED AN APPROXIMATE 78 PERCENT OF TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND. A COUPLE OTHER SIGNIFICANT REVENUE SOURCES WERE WORTH NOTING HERE. YOU ALL HAD CHARGES FOR SERVICES OF AROUND FOURTEEN POINT TWO MILLION AND INDIGO INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE OF APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION

DOLLARS. >> THIS CHART WAS JUST GENERAL FUNDS EXPENDITURES FOR THE YEAR ABOUT NATURE AND FUNCTION YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURE FOR AROUND ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT THREE POINT SIX MILLION COMPARED TO BY.

>> AS YOU WOULD EXPECT PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS AND GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEGERS THEY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THESE EXPENDITURES. PUBLIC AS YOU JUST SEE WITH OUR FORTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR END AND THAT ACCOUNTED FOR 40 PERCENT OF THE GENERAL FUNDS TOTAL EXPENDITURES AND THAT PERCENTAGE IS ACTUALLY ON THE LOWER END OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OF YOUR SIZE PUBLIC WORKS EXPENDITURES FOR JUST UNDER 16 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR AND GENERAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES FOR THAT THIRTY

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>> SO THE FUND BALANCE HISTORY OF YOUR HAND OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS? NO, IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME TO KIND OF REFLECT BACK ON WHERE YOU WERE COMPARED TO WHERE THINGS STAND AND YOU CAN SEE ON CHART IT WAS A RELATIVELY GOOD YEAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND NEW FUND BALANCE INCREASED TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR AN ENDING BALANCE A FIFTY THREE POINT EIGHTY THREE DOLLARS A YEAR AGAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH NET POSITION FUND BALANCE IS NOT WHAT YOU ALL THE FORECAST FOR DISCRETIONARY SPENDING SOME BALANCE OF IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASSETS AND LIABILITIES ONLY PORTION OF WHICH IS AVAILABLE CASH. YOU ADDITIONALLY KNOW IF YOU KEEP IN THE GENERAL FUND INCURS EXPENDITURES OF A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH.

SO YOU ALL ENDED THE YEAR WITH UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE EQUAL TO AROUND 4 1/2 MONTHS

OF OPERATING EXPENDITURES BUT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO 30 YEAR IN. >> IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE A STRONG FULL AND BALANCE IN ORDER TO COVER THE EXPENDITURE MUST THROUGH JULY THROUGH NOVEMBER WHEN YOUR REVENUES DOWN IN FURTHER FALL ON THAT YOU COULD CHIP AWAY WHICH IS WHERE YOU SUBMIT YOUR CAPPER FOR CERTIFICATION DEPENDING ON THE ENTITIES YEAR END THEY RECOMMEND THAT ENTITIES MAINTAIN A FUND BALANCE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE TO SIX MONTHS OR GENERAL FUND AND OPERATING EXPENDITURES. SO AGAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER YOU'RE RIGHT AT 1 2 1/2 MONTHS. AS OF JUNE 30 SO YOU'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH YOUR VOICE RECOMMENDATION AND AGAIN AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB ESPECIALLY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS OF GETTING YOUR FUND BALANCE UP TO THAT RECOMMENDED LEVEL.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. NOW A COUPLE OTHER FUNDS I HEARD YOU WANT TO MENTION ALL THE COUNTIES THREE ENTERPRISE ONES WHICH ARE OF THESE SPORTS UTILITY THE LADY LADIES ISLAND AIRPORT AND HE HELPED HEAD ON YOUR BOARD, GET ENTERPRISE BALLOONS THERE USED TO ACCOUNT FOR OPERATIONS IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO THAT OF A PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESS.

>> BUT THE GOAL OF THESE FUNDS ARE BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT AND TO GENERATE SUFFICIENT OPERATING REVENUES TO COVER THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES .

SO THE CHART OF THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES FOR EACH OF THE THREE FUNDS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE UTILITY PHONE THEY DID HAVE A GOOD YEAR GETTING INTO THE YEAR WITH OPERATING AROUND TWO POINT ONE MILLION.

>> THE LADY'S ISLAND AIRPORT WAS FLAT. IT HAD A SLIGHT OPERATING LOSS OF AROUND EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT HAD OPERATING INCOME

OF A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR. >> WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE NON OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES ON STAFF AS WELL AS THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT RECEIPTS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THE NET EFFECT OF EACH FUND'S POSITION COMPARED TO PRIOR YEAR. AGAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THE LADY'S ISLAND AIRPORT FOR FUN WAS FLAT FOR THE YEAR STRONGER UTILITY HAD AN INCREASE IN DEPOSITION TWO POINT ONE MILLION AND YOU DON'T HAVE AIRPORTS DEPOSITION INCREASED A LITTLE OVER FOUR MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR. BUT AGAIN, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND OF OUR FOR 1 MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE THREE POINT ONE MILLION CAME FROM FROM CAPITAL GRANTS CATHOLIC CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE FORM OF FEDERAL GRANTS. SO ABOUT A MILLION OF THAT PERTAINING TO GIVE OPERATING THAT I TALKED ABOUT THE THIRD AND FINAL COMPONENT OF THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE THE FOOTNOTES. THE FOOTNOTES DISCLOSED THE COUNTY'S ACCOUNTING METHODS AS WELL AS FOR AN EXPANDED EXPLANATION OF THE OPERATIONAL FINANCIAL RESULTS FOR THE YEAR. THERE REALLY WEREN'T ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN YOUR FOOTNOTES THIS YEAR. SO UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I WILL GO INTO THOSE IN DETAIL AS PART OF YOUR AUDITS THERE WERE TWO COMPLIANCE REPORTS.

>> WE ALSO ISSUED THE FIRST OF WHICH IS YOUR SINGLE ORDER REPORT.

AGAIN THIS IS A COMPLIANCE WITH OR THAT IS REQUIRED AN ENTITY HAS OVER SEVEN OR FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FEDERAL EXPENDITURES PER YEAR AND YOU ALL HAD A LITTLE 5 MILLION DOLLARS OF OF THOSE EXPENSES AS WAS THE CASE WITH THE FINANCIAL AUDIT.

>> WE ARE ISSUING A CLAIM OR UNMODIFIED OPINION SAYING WHAT SECOND COMPLIANCE REPORT IS A YELLOW BOOK REPORT AND THAT IS REPORT ON THE COUNTY'S INTERNAL CONTROL.

>> IT IS COMPLIANCE WITH WALLS REGULATIONS. WE DID HAVE FOR AUDIT FINDINGS YOU ALL THIS YEAR TWO OF WHICH PERTAINED TO THE FINANCIAL AUDIT AND TO PERTAIN TO THE SINGLE AUDIT I WHENEVER THOSE IN DETAIL THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO

SO WITH YOU ALL IF YOU WISH. >> BUT IF YOU IF YOU NEED I WOULD LIKE TO READ THOSE THOSE FINDINGS IN DETAIL MIGHT BEGIN ON PAGE ONE. EIGHTY NINE OF THE FINANCIAL

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I HAVE SPOKEN LENGTH SHE'S ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF CORRECTING THESE ISSUES GOING FORWARD I TELL YOU WHEN YOU'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. SHE'S BEEN VERY PROACTIVE, NOT REACTIVE. SHE'S REALLY TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS TO ENSURE THAT THESE ITEMS BE CORRECTED. SO AGAIN, IF I'M IN YOUR SHOES I WOULDN'T BE OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT THESE. I SEE THESE FINDINGS BEING A ONE TIME ISSUE AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE THESE BEING FIRST NATURE YEARS. ONE FINAL TIME TO DISCUSS IS CERTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT THE AUDITS IS AUDITING STANDARDS THE PATH WE GAVE TO YOU ALL BUT AGAIN THE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED A CLEAN OPINION WITH THE FINANCIAL AUDIT EVERY SINGLE AUDIT. WE HAD NO DIFFICULTIES IN DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT.

WE HAD NO DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT. WE HAD NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS. AND AGAIN WE ARE INDEPENDENT ACCOUNTING AS REQUIRED BY GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. AND WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S QUITE A BIT MORE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT.

WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO IS JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T TOUCH ON WITH YOU ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK THIS YEAR AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A SERVICE OF THE DOWNING NDA

AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING IN FUTURE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVID.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? MR. SILVER, THANK YOU, SIR.

A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE SALES TAX. THE RATIO IS A THOUSAND OR ONE THERE BETWEEN 2019 2020 I'M SURE THERE'S AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT.

>> YES, SIR. THIS IS WHERE I CAN ANSWER THAT .

THE REFERENDUM WAS IN THE PRIOR YEAR AND COLLECTIONS DIDN'T START UNTIL THE FISCAL 20 YEARS. AND THAT IS WHY YOU REALLY SEE VERY LITTLE OF THAT IN THE

PRIOR YEAR OFFERED IN FISCAL 20 . >> I'LL HAVE TO SPEAK TO YOU

OFF LINE ABOUT THAT. >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON AIRPORTS.

THE THE GRAND WERE APPROXIMATELY EVEN BETWEEN 2019 2020.

THE EXPENDITURES WERE VASTLY DIFFERENT. I THINK THREE TO ONE LADY'S ISLAND AND PROBABLY TWO AND HALF TO ONE ON HILTON HEAD. IS THAT IS THAT SIMPLY SPENDING GRANTS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS? OR I GUESS AS A RESULT OF TIMING DIFFERENCES IN THOSE AND SHE IS QUESTIONABLE. I'LL TALK TO BOTH. OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IT WAS A VERY NICE PRESENTATION ON HAVING DONE THIS IN MY PRIOR CAREER MDA AND A IS A SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENT.

IT IS WELL WORTH READING. IT'S ACTUALLY THE STORY OF THE COUNTY.

IT TELLS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AT LEAST TO READ THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, WE'RE NOW AT CITIZEN COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE TO MAKE A COMMENT? BECAUSE I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE UNLESS JOEY YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT.

OKATIE SINGING NO COME FROM JOE. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE.

[12. LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS9]

WE'RE AT LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SO WE'LL HAVE THEM GO OVER THOSE AND ANY OTHER REPORTS THAT WE NEED. SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS ONE ITEM ONLY ONE I AM THE SAME THING AS A RESOLUTION FOR ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD TO BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN ALSO WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR FINAL ADMINISTRATORS WORKSHOP THAT'S GOING TO BE ON MAY 6TH AT

10:00. >> THANK YOU. >> OK.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WELL, JERRY, IT'S BEEN A BUSY BOY PUSHING STUFF THROUGH. JUST TO RUN THROUGH THEM QUICKLY AND THESE ALL CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY. I HAVE TO HAS TO DO WITH UTILITY EASEMENTS WHICH WE SEE FROM TIME TO TIME ON PROPERTY THAT WE OWN.

BUT WE WE GRANTED EASEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHER FOLKS TYPICALLY BEING FOR JASPER IN

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ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A THIS IS PART OF THE I BELIEVE THE SALES TAX ACTIVITIES EXCLUDING THE 270 A QUARTER. SO THIS WOULD BE RELATIVE TO THE PATHWAYS AND THE WORK ON LADY'S ISLAND. SO IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES. IT'S A THREE POINT THREE MILLION.

SO IT COMES OUT OF THE SALES TAX FUNDS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE EARTH WORK AND SITE UTILITIES AT THE MYRTLE BUSINESS PARK IN BLUFFTON AND THAT'S PART OF ONGOING DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE WHERE WE'RE ADDING ADDING BUILDINGS.

NUMBER SIX IS AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF EMC WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES FOR THEM. WE HAVE DONE THIS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO HELP THEM IN SOME CASES WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT PARTICULAR SPECIALTY IN. NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION AND HAS TO DO WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN AND THEY'VE SELECTED THE VENDOR TO DO THAT BEING A FREE PRESS FOR QUALIFICATION THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A HARD DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE INDIVIDUAL FIRM SELECTED BASED ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A LEASE AGREEMENT UPDATE WITH STONE WORKS AND IT'S A IT'S A KIND OF A MINOR ADJUSTMENT AND ESSENTIALLY SOME MINOR REVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT RECEIVING NOW. ITEM NUMBER NINE HAS ONE POINT FIVE MILLION CHANGE FOR UPGRADING THE HVAD C AND THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR THE DETENTION CENTER PART OF AN OVERALL UPGRADE OF THAT FACILITY. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LITTLE BIKO LIBRARY AND IS REALLY EXTENDING SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE. NOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT BE A NEW LEASE OR AN AMENDMENT BUT THE LAWYERS AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT AGREEMENT AND NUMBER ELEVEN IS THE APPOINTMENT OF BRUCE KLEIN TO THE CONSTRUCTION ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD WITH THAT BEING HIS FOURTH TERM WOULD EXPIRE FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. AND BEING A FOURTH TERM, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE 11 POSITIVE VOTES TO GET THAT DONE . THANKS.

SO THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. ONE OR TWO ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT FROM JUST THE COMMITTEE PERSPECTIVE WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT POSSIBLY OF A REFERENDUM A NEW REFERENDUM RELATIVE TO ROAD PROJECTS AND A SENSE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT WE DO NEED AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WITH THE PLANNING. WE'RE PROBABLY AT POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN 20 22 AND TO THAT AND PROBABLY THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO CONVENE BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE MAYORS. A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL FOLKS, THE SHERIFF AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND THEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN DOING. THE STAFF HAS RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES.

SO WE'LL BE STARTING WITH A POTENTIAL LIST. IT'S INTERESTING THAT JARED'S COINED THE TERM THE BEAUFORT BILLION BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TOTAL ROADS. NOW OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH REFERENDUM IMPACT FEES OR WE GET SOME MONEY FROM THE STATE. THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IT COMES TO. BUT AS YOU LOOK AT IT, THE NUMBER SEEMS TO BE SO LARGE IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS BY THAT. BUT IT'S OVER 10 YEARS BY THE WAY WITHOUT SOME CERTAINLY SOME REFORM REFERENDUMS. I THINK THE SECOND COMMENT IS THAT WITH THE REPORT WE JUST RECEIVED ON 278 PIECE WHICH I THINK IS COMING ALONG NICELY.

WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE SITTING WITH THE TOWN AND TAKING A LOOK AS TO WHAT SHORT TIME SHORT TERM PROJECTS COULD BE UNDERTAKEN TO EITHER TO RELIEVE THE CONGESTION, IMPROVE THE SAFETY BECAUSE IT'S GETTING WORSE WITH EVERY PASSING DAY. SO THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE UPDATES FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS HOWARD. YES, SIR.

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THE TCO IS LOOKING AT ADDING A PHARMACY TECHNICIAN PROGRAM AND THE OTHER NEWS IS THE STUDENTS THAT WERE IN THE MEDICAL FIELDS WHICH WERE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THEIR CLINICAL BECAUSE OF THE PROBE AND HAVE NOW FINISHED SO THAT IT'S A GOOD NEWS .

DR. TIM HARDY WHO IS WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE STATE SOUTH CAROLINA TECHNICAL COLLEGE PROGRAM SAID THAT HE HAD SOME GOOD NEWS LOTTERY SEATS OR ARE HIGHER AND THAT MEANS THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO GO TO SCHOOL FREE AND THEY EXPECT TO HAVE MONEY FROM THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO TAKE CARE OF BUILDINGS PERHAPS MORE THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, MR. HARBHAJAN, YOUR FIRST AND THEN MR. MCCOLLUM? I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER FIVE. LINCOLN CENTER. SO WOULD YOU PREFER THAT I ASK THE QUESTION OR WOULD YOU RATHER MAKE MOTIONS AND TAKE OFF? SO I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THIS BEFORE.

YES. SO THE QUESTION IS WE GOT AN AGREEMENT TO SELL THAT PROPERTY IS THE SITE WORK PART OF THAT AGREEMENT? AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE TAXPAYER SHOULD BE PAYING FOR? SHOULD THAT BE THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY? I'LL DEFER TO GERALD GERARD ON THAT. GERARD.

DID YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION? YES, SIR. AND THAT MAKES THE NEXT QUESTION. SO AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THERE ARE FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN UTILITY TAX CREDITS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED FROM THE BOE UP TOWARDS THE PROJECT. THAT IS THE FUNDING AND THE FUNDS THAT WE AIM FOR THIS TYPE WORK IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THOSE FUNDS AND ASK TO RUN THROUGH THE COUNTIES WITH THE COUNTY TAX TO DO THE WORK AND THEN FUNNEL THE TAX CREDITS APPLIED TOWARDS THE PROJECT.

IT IS NOT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THOSE TAX CREDITS FROM ALL ELECTRIC.

THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO GET ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

OK. ANYHOW, MR. MCCALLUM, YOU QUESTION THE MAY 3RD DAY OF COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE HELD IN MAY.

WE'RE GOING ASK IN CONVERSATION WITH MR. GREENWAY YOU JUST AT HIS NEXT ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT WILL INCLUDE THE UPDATE ON THE DISTANCE LEARNING GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE FIRST REPORT WAS MADE. AND I'VE ASKED MR. SCOTT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE JUNE MEETING WITH REGARD TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE DETENTION CENTER.

SO THE NAME REMAIN. THERE WILL BE NO MAY MEETING BUT THERE WILL BE AGENDA ITEMS ALREADY IN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE JEWS. GREAT.

THANK. AND THE OTHERS SAYING NONE. WE ARE NOW READY TO CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. OUR FIRST ITEM.

MR. GLOVER, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT. >> YEAH, I'M HEARING YES I CAN.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT TO MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I DON'T SEE ANY ANYWHERE ELSE. WE'VE JUST GOT DONE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO. IF IT CAN BE ACCEPTED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU CAN MOVE OUR SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> HOLD ON A SEC. >> I'LL SEND DOOLEY HAS BEEN SECONDED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GLOVER? >> YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX, BUT I

JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CONCERN AT THIS TIME. >> LET I'M JUST WONDERING WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, WHETHER WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF UNDUE BURDEN ON OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION AND THAT'S IT'S A CONCERN THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD SOME WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IT PUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON RECORD THAT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE

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MAY BE OVERLOADING OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE WE GO DULY MOTION AND SECONDED. THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION FOR THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1 THROUGH ELEVEN. I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.

THEREFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1 THROUGH 11 ARE APPROVED AS STATED WE MOVE ON TO ITEM

[13. ACCEPTANCE OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN.]

SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SAYING NO DISCUSSIONS?

>> THIS ITEM WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS. LOOKING I SEE NO OBJECTIONS THEREFORE ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN IS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER 14 WE'LL NEED A

[14. CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF SC 170 IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN 278 AND 462 ON AM EXPEDITED BASIS, NOT TO EXCEED $300,000.]

BEFORE YOU DO THE DISCUSSION. I SEE. ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD. YOU'LL BE FIRST LET ME GUESS. >> OH, JUST THE BACKGROUND ON THIS. LET'S HAD COMMITTED COMMISSION TO STUDY NOT TOO LONG AGO TO LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA. PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST CONGESTED AREAS OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY AND CAME BACK WITH REALLY THREE TIME PHASES 1 WHICH IS THE LONG TERM ONE MEDIUM TERM IN ONE SHORT TERM THE LONG TERM. IT'S ON THE ORDER OF 70 TO 80 MILLION DOLLARS WITH ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON THERE IN THE SHORT TERM WAS 3 MILLION DOLLARS AT 4 PROJECTS AS PART OF IT. ONE OF THE FOUR HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT 462 PROPOSAL KEEP MINE WOULD STILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOR THE DOLLARS WHEN THEY HAVE A HAVE A CONTRACT.

BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT THIS IS SO LARGE AND WE OUGHT TO GET ON WITH IT.

THIS IS REALLY COUNCIL'S SAYING YES WE ACKNOWLEDGE JUST AS SOMETHING WE WE OUGHT TO DO TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. LET ME JUST READ YOU FROM THE REPORT THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FROM THE OVERALL PROJECT OF THAT SECTION.

IT SAYS THERE WERE 439 CRASHES ALONG THE 170 STUDY QUARTER OVER THREE AND A HALF YEAR PERIOD WITH FIVE OF THOSE RESULTING IN FATALITIES OF THESE FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY NINE OR 43 PERCENT OCCURRED BETWEEN 278 COMMERCE GRACE DRIVE.

THAT'S REALLY THE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE SECTION OF 170 NORTH OF 270.

YEAH, 278 IN THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO ADVANTAGE JUST THIS BY GETTING ON WITH IT IN ADDITION TO JUST SOLVING THE PROBLEM IS THAT I THINK IT'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOG WITH JASPER AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA ON WHO OUGHT TO PAY THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND I THINK WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE THE OTHER PARTIES NOT JUST OURSELVES.

AND SECONDLY, THIS WOULD BE AN AREA THAT WOULD CLEARLY MAKE IT INTO THE 22 REFERENDUM IF WE END UP DOING IT. AND SO BY ACTUALLY LOOKING HAVING ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPING IT, WE'LL PROBABLY LEARN SOME THINGS RELATIVE TO FINE TUNING THAT PARTICULAR POTENTIAL PROJECT. SO I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

IT'S BEEN DULY MOTION AND SECONDED. THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THIS IS I HAVE LONG ARGUED POINTS. A VOICE VOTE. YES, I WOULD TOO.

>> ALL RIGHT. IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED SECONDS.

MR. RUDMAN, WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOU. YES, MR. SOMERVILLE, YOU WERE SECOND. YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM.

YES. MR. DAWSON? YES.

MR. FLOOR ROLLING? >> NO, MR. GLOVER. NO.

MR. HARVEY SHINE. YES. MISS HOWARD?

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>> YES. THE CHAIR VOTES YES. THERE ARE NINE.

YES. TWO. NO.

[15. APPROVE ENTERING INTO THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE ONLINE SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPANIES]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. MISS HOWARD MAKES THE MOTION.

A SECOND, MR. CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE SECOND QUESTIONS MR. HARBHAJAN POSTHUMOUSLY.

EXACTLY WHICH COMPANY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THESE ARE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COMPANIES LIKE AIR B AND B VERBAL. COMPANIES THAT ARE BEING PART

OF THIS CLASS ACTION SUIT. >> UNDERSTOOD. THOSE.

THERE OTHERS. OH, THERE ARE OTHERS. THOSE ARE THE TWO MAJORS.

BUT IT IS EVERY SINGLE ONE. MR. GREENWAY CERTAINLY YOU CAN WEIGH IN.

DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW AT THIS POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT RESEARCH AND IF WE DETERMINE THAT PEOPLE NOT SUBMITTING THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION ON A TAX BUSINESS LICENSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND NOT TO BE A PART OF IT. OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY MR. TAYLOR, MY ELABORATE FURTHER STILL. BUT WHAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A GOOD ANSWER ON HOW MANY COMPANIES ARE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT. SO THIS IS BASICALLY A BLANKET ADMISSION TO ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO ANY EARTH INTO LEGAL ACTION WITH ANY SORT OF SHORT TERM WELL. THE THE ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER THE CASE AND TELL US WHO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST. I UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT?

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT IS THE STANDARD AS EASTER HASN'T SAID IT'S TWO COMPANIES WE ALL KNOW IN WAY I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT A CLASS ACTION THAT WOULD DIFFERENT TYPE OF LAWSUIT. THIS IS SIMPLY A MULTIPLE DEFENDANT LAWSUIT.

>> CORRECT. OK. MR. CUNNINGHAM, WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITY IS OR CLOSE AREAS AROUND US HAVE JOINED IN THIS LAWSUIT? HILTON HEAD HAS THE MYRTLE BEACH COUNTY, CHARLESTON COUNTY, RICHLAND COUNTY.

>> I'M NOT SURE IF BLUFFTON OR BEAUFORT HAVE PURSUED. THANK YOU.

HEY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK. SEEING NONE.

WILL WE REQUIRE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS? ANYONE GOING TO OBJECT TO THIS? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. THEREFORE THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS.

SEE NONE. ITEM NUMBER 15 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

[16. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO USE $5 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE TO DEFEASE BONDS.]

BONDS. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. MR. LAWSON MAKES THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND MR. DAWSON MAKES THE SECOND. >> OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST GO ONE QUICK COMMENT.

YES. THANK YOU. I SUPPORTING THIS.

SO SO THAT'S NOT EVEN A QUESTION. BUT THE THE THE FUND BALANCES IS A GOOD RESOURCE. THERE HAS BEEN GROWING FOR US AND WE NEED TO REALLY IS COMING FROM TAX PAYERS AND WE NEED TO REALLY GIVE SOME TYPE OF RELIEF TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

THIS IS ONE WAY OF DOING IT. I'M HOPING THAT WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING ISSUING MORE BONDS OF INDEBTEDNESS BUT ALSO AT SOME POINT IN TIME TRYING TO USE OUR FUND BALANCE EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO KIND OF REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR CITIZENS.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAXES THAT ARE BEING ASSESSED RIGHT NOW TO OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS.

>> THIS WILL BE DONE WITH OUT. I'M SORRY. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO IS ONLINE OR IN-PERSON TO MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? OK. SO WE'VE MET THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT THAT PORTION IS CLOSED. THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION. THEN I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. THEREFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A PUBLIC

[17. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE PERMANENT THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED EMERGENCY RESOLUTION ALLOWING FOR ELECTRONIC OR HYBRID MEETINGS, AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO VOTE AT FIRST READING 8/3]

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THE MOTION. >> MISS SHERMAN MR. MACALLAN MAKES THE SECOND OK.

IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER IN CHAMBERS OR ONLINE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT

REGARDING THIS ITEM OR IN THAT OK. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION HAS BEEN SATISFIED. IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE? MR. CUNNINGHAM, I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE AND I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME AND I'M REALLY TRYING TO FIND MIDDLE GROUND ON THIS WITH ALL COUNCIL. AGAIN, THE THING THAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME IS HAVING COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS BEING ABLE TO BE VIRTUAL FAR. COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY I'M GOING TO MOVE AGAIN THAT WE EXCLUDE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM THIS ORDINANCE AND JUST LEAVE IT TO OUR COMMITTEES BOARDS MEETINGS. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT? YES, SIR.

OK. IS THERE A SECOND TO HIS AMENDMENT?

I'LL SECOND THE AMENDMENT, SIR. >> MR. FALLING MAKES THE SECOND DISCUSSION ON THAT CLARIFICATION. YES, I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WOULD BE JUST FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS ITSELF DOES NOT APPLY TO THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS OF COUNCIL.

CORRECT. CORRECT. FOR BOARDS OR COMMITTEE BOARD

YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? GO AHEAD, MR. MCGOWAN. >> SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNAVOIDABLY DETAINED OR UNAVAILABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING WOULD REMOVE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE ON MATTERS COMING BEFORE THIS BODY SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE THERE. BUT IF WE HAVE THIS VIRTUAL AUTHORITY, EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF THE REASON THAT THEY'RE UNAVAILABLE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS AND CAST THE VOTE. MANY PEOPLE MAY FIND THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OUT OF TOWN.

THEY HAVE A FAMILY EMERGENCY THAT SOMETHING WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM BEING IN THE CHAMBER.

AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PREVENT ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY WHO HAVE TO BE ABSENT FOR OTHER REASON FROM BEING ABLE TO VOTE MATTERS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE MEMBERS THEMSELVES, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OK. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXCLUDE

PEOPLE FROM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. HARVEY SHARP CLARIFICATION DOES THAT INCLUDE CAUCUS SINCE CAUCUS IS PART OF THE PUBLIC COUNCIL MEETING? THE ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE YES.

VERY GOOD. I'M TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I THINK THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE IN PUBLIC. I THINK WE ALL SIGNED FOR THIS JOB. WE ALL SIGNED UP TO BE THERE. WE ONLY FOR WE CAN BE HERE.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE. OK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD. I DO. MR. SOMERVILLE? YEAH. I MEAN THIS IS A SELF-SERVING COMMENT BUT I THINK WE ALL.

EACH ONE OF THE ELEVEN OTHERS HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE A SELF-SERVING COMMENT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I DO TRAVEL A LOT IN MY BUSINESS.

AND MY OPTIONS HAVE BEEN EITHER A TO MISS THE MEETING AND NOT VOTE OR B TO FOREGO THE REVENUE AND MAKE THE CLIENT MAD TO NOT BE PRESENT WHEN THEY WANT ME PRESENT ONSITE AND BE HERE WHICH I HAVE ELECTED TO DO NUMEROUS NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE ON COUNCIL.

I SIGNED UP FOR THIS BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE ME PERSONALLY SOME RELIEF TO DO TO EARN A LIVING AND SUPPORT MY FAMILY. OK.

MR. LAWSON. >> YES, I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT.

I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AND WITH THAT BEING SAID I'M PLANNING ON COMING TO EVERY MEETING. AND IT'S UP TO ME TO DECIDE IF I'M COMING THE MEETING OR NOT.

AND AS MR. KELLER AND ELOQUENTLY SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT MISS MEETINGS WHETHER IT'S DUE TO COVERED WITH US DUE ILLNESS, WHETHER IT'S DUE TO SOMETHING ELSE. AND BY ALLOWING US TO HAVE THE MEETINGS BE VIRTUAL, IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT BETTER FOR TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE EVERYONE WILL BE HERE THEN EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE. I HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE

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THEY CAN. >> COLEMAN YEAH. >> YEAH.

GO AHEAD MR. GLOVER. >> OH, I'M SORRY. SOMEBODY ELSE SAID FOR UNLIKE MR. LAWSON I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. I THINK THAT HAVING HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY OF BEING IN PERSON THAT I DO PLAN TO BE IN PERSON AT SOME POINT IN TIME STILL HAVE A LITTLE RESERVATION SIMPLY BECAUSE OF MY AGE RIGHT NOW EVEN THOUGH I GOTTEN MY VACILLATION ETC. I'M STILL WAVERING RIGHT NOW WITH EITHER BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME THIS WHOLE ISSUE WILL BE BEHIND US AND I WILL MAKE MY PRESENCE HERE IN THE CHAMBER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TO BE AT OUR MEETINGS IF WE ARE NOT PRESENT IN PERSON. WE CAN BE PRESENT BY VIRTUAL AND I THINK TO NOT USE AND UTILIZE THAT TECHNOLOGY WOULD PUT US HE'LL MAKE US LOOK LIKE WE ARE NOT EMBRACING THE NEW ERA. AND I THINK WE HAVE THAT TIME AND WE COULD USE IT.

>> SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT BEING ABLE TO USE THE HYBRID SYSTEM GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. >> THERE'S SOMEWHERE YOU'LL GO NEXT THEN, MR. RUDMAN.

MR. CUNNINGHAM AND WE'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT. I THINK WE HAVE ENTERED A NEW ERA OF TECHNOLOGY.

I THINK THIS WILL PROVIDE A WAY FOR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT UNDER SOME HEALTH CONDITIONS OR OTHER REASONS UNKNOWN US CAN STILL PARTICIPATE AND VOTE BE COUNTED .

I PLAN ON BEING HERE FROM NOW ON I'VE BEEN VACCINATED BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNTED. THANK YOU.

MR ROBB AND SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND PARTIALLY BECAUSE I LOOK TO THEM IN WASHINGTON AND IN COLUMBIA WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ALLOW PEOPLE TO VOTE THAT ARE NOT THERE AND WE HAVE MUCH SHORTER DISTANCE TO DEAL WITH.

MR. CUNNINGHAM, I'LL FOCUS MY COMMENT ON TWO THINGS ONE DIRECTLY TOWARDS OUR CHALLENGE RESPONSE OF EXCLUDING BOATS. IN NO WAY DOES THIS AMENDMENT EXCLUDE A VOTE.

WE HAVE 24 MEETINGS A YEAR INSIDE THIS COUNCIL. THAT AGENDA AND SCHEDULE HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY FOR SOMEONE NOT TO BE HERE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE VIRTUAL NO MATTER WHETHER THIS PASSES OR NOT WITH WHICH MR. LAWSON EXPRESSED LAST MEANING. SO TO TWIST THE WORDS THE WAY YOU DID TO SAY THAT IT EXCLUDED RIBAUT AND MAKE THE CHAIRMAN ANSWER THAT WITH A YES OR NO IS INACCURATE.

SECONDLY, MR. SOMERVILLE, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WITH YOU. I GAVE UP MONEY TO DO THIS JOB.

I USED TO WORK EVERY MONDAY FOR NINE YEARS. I ALSO QUIT MY OTHER JOBS.

I COULD RUN THE CAMPAIGN TO DO IT. I KNEW AT IT UNTIL MY FAMILY KNEW WHAT IT ENTAILED. AND YOU KNOW I'M A PUBLIC SERVANT.

I'M HERE TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE JUST LIKE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.

AND I THINK I SHOULD BE HERE IN PERSON WORKING FOR THEM AS LONG AS THAT CAN BE DONE SAFELY.

AND THAT'S CURRENTLY WHY I VOTED FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE LAST TIME TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN UNTIL THAT TIME COULD BE.

BUT TO ALLOW IT TO BE SOMETHING PERMANENT IS SOMETHING I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD DESPERATELY RECONSIDER. OK, WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE. MR. CUTTING EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE AMENDMENT IS TO REMOVE THE CAUCUS AND COUNCIL MEETING FROM THE ABILITY TO HAVE ONLINE PARTICIPATION. YOU COULD STILL PARTICIPATE WAIT FOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COULD DO THAT BUT COUNTY COUNCIL COULD NOT HAVE A ATTENDANCE VIRTUE FOR CAUCUS OR COUNCIL MEETINGS. MR. CUNNINGHAM, YOU MADE THE AMENDED MOTION. YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? YES.

MR. FLOWING. YOU WERE SECOND GUESS, MR. DAWSON.

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YES. MR. GLOVER. >> NO.

MR. HER VISION? YES. MS. HOWARD. NO. MR. LAWSON.

OUR CLASS AND NO MR. MACALLAN. NO. MR. RODMAN.

YES. MR. SOMERVILLE. NO CHAIR VOTES NO.

THE YESES ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. YES.

THE NO'S ARE SIX. THE MOTION IS DEFEATED. WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MOVED BY MR. GLOVER, SECONDED BY MR. MCKELLEN. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE?

SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL THE ROLL MR. GLOVER. >> YES, MR. MCKELLEN.

>> YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM. NO.

MR. DAWSON. YES. MR. FLO WHELAN.

YES. MR. HER ON NOW, MISS HOWARD. YES.

MR. LAWSON. OUR CLASS AND YES, MR RUDD. YES.

YES. MR. SOMERVILLE. YES.

AND THE CHAIR VOTES YES. WE HAVE NINE YES AND TWO NO. THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL.

[18. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO CALL FOR A REFERENDUM TO ALLOW THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA TO VOTE TO RETAIN THE COUNCIL-ADMINISTRATOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT OR CHANGE TO THE COUNCIL-MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT VOTE AT FIRST READING: 8/3]

MOVE THE CHAIR. >> MR. MACALLAN MAKES THE SECOND DISCUSSION.

MR. HARVEY SHINE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AGAIN. I CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED WITH A CONSOLIDATION OF POWER AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. I THINK THIS IS JUST PROBABLY ONE MORE STEP TOWARD THAT.

I THINK IT'S ALSO A GROSS OVERREACTION TO AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH BASICALLY ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL. I THINK THE VOTERS CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AND THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE AND FRANKLY I THINK IT'S OUR POLITICAL PARTIES TO HELP THEN DO THAT BY PUTTING MY CANDIDATES. SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED.

I THINK THE VOTERS SHOULD DECIDE IF THEY WANT THEIR TREASURER IN THEIR HONOR BEING AMONG THE STATES AND THE OTHER COMMENTS AS CHAIRMAN I I'M GOING TO PUT THIS MOTION SIMPLY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AROUND THE TABLE AND IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE EVER SINCE I GOT ON COUNCIL. I THINK THE CITIZENS NEED TO DEBATE THIS AND DECIDE THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THANKS. OK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ,MR. ROBIN, I'M HIGHLY IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS BUT VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO TRYING TO PUSH

THIS THROUGH THIS YEAR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK WE GET ONE MORE BITE AT THIS APPLE. AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T GIVEN AN EXPLANATION TO THE PEOPLE. I THINK THEY'LL BE MORE OPPOSITION THAN SUPPORT IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. CLEARLY I THINK THERE'LL BE GROUPS MAYBE LIKE THE TEACHERS THAT WILL SAY HEY, WE DON'T WANT THE COUNTY. CONTROLLING OUR OUR FUNDS.

THERE'LL BE CONFUSION OVER THE AUDIT AND THEREFORE WE HAVE AN AUDITOR.

BUT IN REALITY THE AUDITOR IS DOING THE AUDITING. WE USE AN OUTSIDE FIRM JUST LIKE WE COME AND DO THIS. AND BUT THAT'S A CONFUSING ISSUE.

AND EVEN THE NAME IS CONFUSING. ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR? SO WE'RE GOING TO GET RID WORK AND THEN HIRE A MANAGER. THE WHOLE THING IS KIND OF CONFUSING AND I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY TO PASS IN THE IN THE SHORT TERM.

HOWEVER, IF WE LOOK OUT TO 2022 AND KEEP IN MIND THAT REGARDLESS OF WHICH YEAR WE DID THE REFERENDUM THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS WOULD SERVE UNTIL JUNE OF TWENTY THREE.

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THE TREASURY IS THE LARGEST BANK IN AND BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT WE HAVE AND IT'S VERY MUCH AN INVISIBLE JOB AND UNLESS SOMETHING GOES WRONG BACK WHEN WE DID IT THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THE ISSUE OF THE EMBEZZLEMENT AND THEN RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF THE TAX BILLS. BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE ALONE ARE THE REASON TO CHANGE THIS.

I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT IS GOOD SOUND FISCAL POLICY THAT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TWO CHOICES.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HIRE SOMEBODY THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL FOR A VERY SOPHISTICATED JOB OR YOU CAN HIRE SOMEBODY FOR FOUR YEARS. THE ONLY QUALIFICATION IS 21 AND BEING A REGISTERED VOTER. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST DOING IT IN 21. BUT I'M A VERY BIG ADVOCATE OF TAKING OUR TIME AND DOING IT PROPERLY IN 22 BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD PASS IT IF WE EXPLAINED IT TO THE PUBLIC.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN PASS IT IF WE JUST PUSH THIS OUT THERE THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS PARTICULARLY COMING OFF OF IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET PEOPLE CITIZENS GROUPS TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER IN THE SHORT TERM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. CUNNINGHAM YEAH. I THINK MY THING STILL AS WITH MR. RODMAN IT'S A TIMING THING FOR ME. SAME THING I STRUGGLE WITH LOSS IS THE SAME THING I STRUGGLE WITH THIS. ANYTHING WE PUT ON THIS BALLOT COMING UP THIS NOVEMBER, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE TURNOUT. WE'VE SEEN IT YEAR BEFORE.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LET THE PEOPLE MAKE A DECISION LIKE ON A REFERENDUM, THEN WE SHOULD DO IT WHEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A WIDE ELECTION IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR TREASURER, OUR AUDITOR NOW FOR THE REST OF THEIR TERMS AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO EVEN RUSH IT TO BE ON THE 20 21 BALLOT. WE SHOULD HAVE THE TIME FOR 22 BALLOT TV AND GIVE IT THE CHANCE TO PASS OR FAIL. HOWEVER THE VOTERS FEEL. SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO OPPOSE IT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO MAKE A MOVE LIKE THIS.

IF YOU WANT THE WIDE VARIETY OF PUBLIC TO VOTE AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.

I'M GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC NOW. IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS OR

ONLINE THAT WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING THIS ITEM? >> THAT'S A VERY.

OK. THAT SECTION IS SATISFIED. CALL ROLL MISCHIEVOUSLY CALL A

RULE. >> WELL, AS YOU SAY 21, 20, 22 IN THIS MOTION IS IT IMPLIED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 21 THE ELECTION? YES.

SINCE THIS NOVEMBER. THIS NOVEMBER. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE. >> YEAH.

OK. MR. SOMERVILLE, YOU MADE THE MOTION.

YOU VOTE FIRST. IF MR MCGOWAN YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM.

NO. MR. DAWSON. YES, MR. FULLER WELLING.

MR. GLOVER. YES. MR. HARVEY SHINE NOW MS.

>> HOWARD. YES. MR. LAWSON.

MARK LAWSON. YES, MR. RUDMAN. >> NOW CHAIR VOTES YES.

THEREFORE WE HAVE SEVEN. YES. FOUR.

[19. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO LEVY AND IMPOSE A ONE PERCENT LOCAL OPTION SALES AND USE TAX WITHIN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, PURSUANT TO SECTION 4-10-10 ET SEQ., OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS, 1976, AS AMENDED; TO DEFINE THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF THE TAX; TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS UPON THE USE OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE TAX; TO PROVIDE FOR A COUNTY-WIDE REFERENDUM FOR THE IMPOSITION OF THE TAX; TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONDUCT OF SUCH REFERENDUM; TO PROVIDE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE TAX, AND OTHER MATTERS RELATING THERETO VOTE AT FIRST READING: 7:3 (COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON ABSENT)]

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MR. CAMERON, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I REPRESENT A DISTRICT OF UNINCORPORATED INTO MUNICIPALITIES. THIS IS A PROMISE AS I'VE SAID BEFORE THAT WE MADE TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED GONE OVER FROM FOUR YEARS. I'VE WAITED FOR THIS FOR SIX YEARS.

I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT LONG DAY. I'M GOING TO VOTE OF COURSE FOR THIS. Q ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. HARVEY, YOUR FAMOUS GERMAN?

>> I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S WANTING AND THE OTHER COUNCILS AS WELL WANTING TO DO THIS IN THIS IS I THINK THEIR POSITION IS REASONABLE. I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE. BUT FOR ME THIS IS A TAX THAT IF YOU JUST PUT ON FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IT WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER COME OFF.

JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS SITE BY APOLOGIZE TO THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES. I APPRECIATE THE POSITION BUT AGAIN ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. SOMERVILLE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. WELL, THE FACT IS THAT THE 12 TO 15 MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE FOR GENERAL FUND PURPOSES IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT PAID FOR BY NON RESIDENTS. ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT IS PAID BY NONRESIDENTS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY GET DEPENDING ON HOW THE SALES TAX MONEY ROLLS IN YEAR TO YEAR GET 12 15 MILLION DOLLARS IN MONEY PAID ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FOR BY TOURISTS AND VISITORS. THE REST OF IT GOES BACK 100 PERCENT TO PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. AND OF COURSE IT GOES BACK PRO-RATA DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU PAY. SO LET ME TALK ABOUT TAXES. SO LET ME COMMENT ON THAT FOR YEARS. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE CRITICALITY OF WHAT 388 HAS DONE TO OUR 6 PERCENTERS, PARTICULARLY OUR BUSINESSES AND A SET INTO PERHAPS A SOMEWHAT LESSER DEGREE TO OUR SECOND HOMEOWNERS. BUT GUESS WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS? ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENED IS YOU'RE SEEING A MARKED ON A LARGE MIGRATION OF SIX PERCENTERS TO 4 PERCENTERS. THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE WITH PEOPLE ALL SECOND HOMES FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY START COMPARING THEIR TAX BILL IN SOUTH CAROLINA IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WITH WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN CONNECTICUT OR MICHIGAN OR WHEREVER THEY'RE FROM. AND THEY'VE DECIDED THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN BEAUFORT IS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS 388 DISASTER THIS CREATED FOR SECOND HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES IS PAYING 6 PERCENT AND 6 PERCENT IS MISLEADING BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST FOUR TO SIX PERCENT. ALL OF A SUDDEN IF YOU'RE A 6 PERCENT OR YOU'RE PAYING YOU'RE PAYING SCHOOL OPERATING TAX AS WELL. SO AND THIS IS REALLY THIS REALLY HURTS RENTERS BECAUSE AS A IS A LANDLORD OBVIOUSLY YOU PASS THIS ON TO YOUR TO YOUR TO YOUR TENANTS. SO THERE ARE A MILLION REASONS. ARE THERE MANY REASONS WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS? BUT I CAN'T I CAN'T HONESTLY SEE A REASON TO NOT SUPPORTED.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. LAWSON, FIRST OF ALL WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND PAST 8:00 HOUR. >> OH, OK.

SECOND MOTION IN SECONDED TO EXTEND PAST THE 8:00 HOUR TO JULY.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THAT WAS SARAH OVER HERE MY LEFT.

OK. I CAN'T TAKE CROWD TO THAT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO GOING PAST THE EIGHT O'CLOCK HOUR TO FINISH THE BUSINESS AT HAND? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.

THEREFORE THE EXTENSION OF THE MEETING PASSED THE 8:00 O'CLOCK HOUR WILL PASS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN MY MY COMMENTS ON THIS AS IS OBVIOUSLY YES.

>> WE'LL DO THIS IN SUPPORT MUNICIPALITIES. AND AGAIN IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT IS SO THE VOTERS CAN DECIDE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL CHOOSE. MUNICIPALITIES ARE FOR THIS. WELL THEN IT'S GOING TO BE THEM

TO GET THE WORD OUT OF WHY IT'S GOOD. >> I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME OUT AND TELL US WHY IT'S BAD. ELLEN PACK IT WILL DO.

>> THEIR STORIES THAT WILL THEN TELL US WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT AGAIN, IT GIVES THE THE PEOPLE THE CHOICE AND THEY COULD VERY EASILY VOTE DOWN IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT WHICH THEY'VE DONE BEFORE. SO AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE I'M DOING

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VOTE. >> MR. CUNNINGHAM, DID YOU HAVE.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, I STRUGGLE WITH BEING ON THIS NOVEMBER BALLOT. AND THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL THAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON NOVEMBER 21. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE VOTERS OUT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE VOICE OF THE ENTIRE BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE MAYORS TO SET MEETINGS. THAT'S ON MY AGENDA TO DO SOME OF THE STRUGGLES I STILL HAVE. IT HURTS YOUR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES THE MOST AND I HAD PEOPLE SAY THAT'S ANY PROPERTY YOU OWN. SO YOU GET A KICKBACK ON YOUR CAR, YOU GET A KICKBACK. THERE'S AN EYE ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT 20 DOLLARS OFF MY PROPERTY TAX OF MY VEHICLE THAT'S 80 DOLLARS.

THERE'S NOTHING TO THAT PERSON THAT'S GOING TO GET ON THERE. TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR PROPERTY TAX ON OUR HOUSE. IT'S NOT COMPARABLE AND NOT TO MENTION THAT A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE RENTING SO THEY DON'T GET THAT KICKBACK. WE KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LANDLORDS ARE NOT GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN THAT DISCOUNT. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I DO STRUGGLE WITH THOSE THINGS. I'D BE WILLING TO PUT IT OR ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF PUTTING ON A BALLOT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE'S VOICE WHETHER I AGREE WITH THE LOST OR NOT. IF YOU ACTUALLY WERE HAVING A SIGNIFICANT ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER IS NOT. SO AGAIN I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST LOST.

OK. AND THE OTHER COMMENTS WE BEFORE WE VOTE YES.

MR REDMAN. >> JUST A CORRECTION. MY TAKE ON WHO PAYS IS IT'S ABOUT ONE THIRD FOR THE VISITORS AND ABOUT TWO THIRDS FOR THE LOCALS THAT LIVE HERE BECAUSE GENERALLY THE SECOND HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY HERE A GREAT PORTION OF THE TIME. SECONDLY, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN STATED THAT MISS VALUES DON'T HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO RAISE CAPITAL. OF COURSE THEY DO.

THEY CAN GO TO REFERENDUM JUST LIKE WE DO. HILTON DOES ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY LESS REGRESSIVE FOR THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE AGAIN THAT WOULD BE PROPERTY TAX BASED NOT ON A BASE.

BUT I WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT. I THINK THIS IS REGRESSIVE ON THE PEOPLE THAT CAN LEAST AFFORD IT. I THINK IT'S A TAX BENEFIT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LEAST NEED IT.

THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE 40 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION. WE CERTAINLY HAVE A SAY BECAUSE WE REPRESENT 60 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE AS TO WHETHER THIS OUGHT TO BE CHRIS'S POINT.

THIS IS A FOREVER. THERE'S NO PRACTICAL WAY THAT YOU'D EVER TAKE IT OFF.

SO THIS ISN'T FOREVER. BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THE PENNY TRANSPORTATION TAX IN ORDER TO WORK THROUGH THIS MASSIVE BOUGH WAVE OF PROJECTS WE HAVE FACING US AND THE MASSIVE GROWTH THAT'S COMING TO TO OUR COUNTY.

SO WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT A PENNY. WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT DO WE WANT TWO PENNIES ONE FOR LOST IN ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION. SO FOR THAT FOR THOSE REASONS AND OTHER STATES I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. OK.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. DOTSON. YEAH. AND LIKEWISE I.

I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF SUPPORTING THIS. THIS AGENDA ITEM.

ARWA DAMON JIMENEZ POUND IS HAVE ASKED US REPEATEDLY IF WE WOULD JUST FORGIVE THE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY AND MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO PAY THIS ONE CENT TAX ON SALES OF ONE STONE. EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SUPPORT IT, I'M GOING TO OBLIGE TO MUNICIPALITY AND VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT TO ALLOW US CITIZENS TO MAKE A DECISION.

BUT I PERSONALLY I DON'T SUPPORT IT. YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. DESIMONE KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THIS REVENUE THAT WILL GO TOWARDS OUR ROADS, OUR SCHOOLS THERE'S NO WAY OF KNOWING IT

TILL WE COLLECT THE ACTUAL TAX. >> IN MY MIND THERE'S A SEVENTY ONE 29 RIGHT 71 PERCENT GOES TO TAX RELIEF. CORRECT. 99 PERCENT GOES TO VARIOUS PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED BY THE INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY. SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THERE'LL BE VERY MINIMAL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TOWARDS OUR SCHOOLS OR OUR ROADS BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DICTATE THE PROJECTS THAT THEY USE TOWARDS JOE? I'M GENUINELY ASKING I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE. I'M ASKING THAT MY TAKE ON THE NUMBERS IS BASED THEY GO OUT DISTRIBUTED ON A POPULATION BASIS. MR. DISPARITIES IN TOTAL WOULD GET BACK ABOUT 10 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR AND THE COUNTY WOULD GET BACK ROUGHLY.

I THINK 15 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR. I BELIEVE THE MONEY IS UNRESTRICTED.

THE WAY YOU CAN USE IT WHETHER IT'S CAPITAL OR OPERATING. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY RESTRICTIONS ON IT. AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE DON'T

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MR. O'BRIEN, DID YOU EVER OKAY . ALL RIGHT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MR. MCCLELLAN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOST TAX DOES NOT TAX ESSENTIAL ITEMS. DOES ANYONE ABLE TO ARTICULATE FOR ME EXAMPLES OF WHAT CENTRAL ITEMS ARE THAT WILL NOT BE TAXED DRUGS AND AGAIN OUR

FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. >> THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PACKET RECENTLY THAT TALKED ABOUT AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT TALKED ABOUT LOST AND IT EITHER SAID OR IMPLIED I DON'T HAVE THE ARTICLE IN FRONT OF ME THAT THE TAX APPLIED TO EVERYTHING AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. BUT WHY WE'RE FORWARD TALKING TO THE PUBLIC. I UNDERSTANDING THAT IT EXCLUDES MEDICINES FOR EXAMPLE IN FOOD AND MY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AM I WRONG ON YOUR CORRECT? SO SO WHAT WE HAVE TO BE ARGUMENT AND FLUID ANYONE AIMED PARTICULARLY AT ANY MORE

ESSENTIAL ITEMS THAT THIS TAX WILL NOT COLLECT ON? >> CORRECT.

I MEAN THAT SPEAKS TO THE AT LEAST PARTIALLY TO THE ARGUMENT ABOUT REGRESSIVE I THINK.

I THINK IF YOU TAX MEDICINE AND FOOD FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I THINK. WE WE WE PROBABLY CAN'T GIVE YOU A COMPREHENSIVE LESS THAN NINE COUNSELOR COLUMN BUT WE WILL BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

AN EMAIL THE COUNCIL TOMORROW. >> WELL, I WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH GETTING SOME INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING US ON TELEVISION TONIGHT ON WHAT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS TAX BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE TRYING TO VOTE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SEE THIS GO ON A REFERENDUM FOR THE CITIZENS TO CONSIDER.

HOWEVER, IF IT'S UNAVAILABLE, WELL THEN THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'LL.

WELL, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND READING WE HAVE ONE MORE READING OF THIS BEFORE IT IS

COMPLETED. >> SO WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

RIBAUT SHORT INCLUDING MEDICINE ARE EXEMPT NO TAX COLLECTED. PEOPLE GO TO A GROCERY STORE TO GET FOOD FOR THEIR FAMILIES. THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT TAXED. CORRECT.

>> OK. ALICE, YOU MADE THE MOTION. YOU GET TO VOTE FIRST.

YES. THE SECOND WAS MR. LAWSON PARK LAWSON.

YES, MR. CUNNINGHAM? NO. MR. DAWSON? YES. MR. FLOWING? YES.

MR. GLOVER. YES. MR. HERBERT SHONE.

NO, MR MCGOWAN. YES, MR. RUDMAN? >> NO.

MR. SOMERVILLE? YES. CHAIR VOTES YES.

THEREFORE THE VOTE IS 8 YES. 3 NO MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A SECOND

[20. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AS AMENDED AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF A SSRC BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA AND PROJECT BURGER PROVIDING FOR A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO]

AS C WHICH IS CALLED A SPECIAL SAUCE REVENUE CREDIT BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY SOUTH CAROLINA AND PROJECT BURGER PROVIDING FOR A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO. MAY I HAVE SUCH MOTION SO MOVED? MR. SECRETARY BILL MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND PLEASE. SECOND, MISS HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND DISCUSSION. OK. MR. CHAIRMAN, WELL WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT IT IS THIS C IS VERSUS A AS A MATTER

OF FACT, WE HAVE AN EXPERT IN THE AUDIENCE. >> I WILL.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN S AS R C AND A PHILO?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. I THINK YOUR MEETINGS WOULD BE SHORTER IF YOU SAT IN THE SEAT. I'VE BEEN SITTING. I'M AMAZED I COULD WALK.

I'VE AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD WE HAD NOT JUST A LIGHTHEARTED MOMENT. I APPRECIATE THE YOU WE HAD HSBC HEINZ FOR SINCLAIR BOY DID A PRESENTATION FOR COUNSEL AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NEWER COUNSEL MEMBERS WHO WEREN'T THERE BUT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.

HSBC HAS BEEN WORKING WITH COUNTY COUNTY'S LEGAL ATTORNEY KIRK TAYLOR AND WE HAVE BASICALLY AS YOU RECALL FIRST READING THESE COMPANIES DUE TO TAX FILINGS THEIR INVESTMENTS SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THEIR REAL ESTATE, THEIR EQUIPMENT AND SO ON FALLS BELOW THE THRESHOLD FOR PHILO FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TO DIVERSIFY ITS KIND OF ECONOMY.

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LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTY DOES USING THE FELOS WHEN THE INVESTMENTS FALL BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL 25 MILLION UCSF SEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME FEAT OF BRINGING BACK RATE FROM A 1/2 PERCENT TO 6 PERCENT FOR THEIR REAL ESTATE AND THEIR EQUIPMENT.

SO IT JUST ALLOWS BEAUFORT COUNTY ONE TO PROVIDE A A NICE WELCOME AND BEYOND EVEN FOOTING WITH WHETHER IT'S JASPER COUNTY OR HAMPTON COUNTY OR ANY OF THE OTHER 49 COUNTIES IN SOUTH

CAROLINA. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> SO IT DOES AND I JUST WOULD ADD THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY WITH WHICH WE HAVE TO DO TO GET AROUND THE STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD BE A 10 PERCENT TAX SHOULDN'T BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

NOBODY NOBODY THAT I KNOW DISAGREES WITH THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO WRAP OURSELVES AROUND THE AXLE WITH THINGS LIKE THIS TO AVOID TELLING PEOPLE THAT EVER 10 PERCENT TAX ON THEIR INVENTORY WHICH WOULD SIMPLY DRIVE TO TENNESSEE OR NORTH CAROLINA OR GEORGIA OR FLORIDA OR WHEREVER. OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ITEM NUMBER 20?

NO OBJECTION, SIR. >> BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND MR. O'TOOLE THAT THERE ARE FORTY SIX COUNTIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I CAN ALWAYS ITEM NUMBER 20 IS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A SECOND

[21. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AS AMENDED AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF A SSRC BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PROJECT GARDEN, PROVIDING FOR A PAYMENT OF A FEE IN LIEU OF TAXES AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO]

RELATED TO. MAY I HAVE SUCH A MOTION MR. >> MR. DAWSON MAKES THE MOTION AND MR. LAW LAWSON MAKES THE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ONE? NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT ASSETS SA C IS VERSUS A FELLOW SEEING NO COMMENTS.

THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME 46 COUNTIES FOR THIS ONE TO SO THE ITEM IS A PROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A FIRST

[22. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020/19 WHICH ESTABLISHED THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ENTERPRISE FUND]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION SOMEWHERE? MR RUDD MAKES THE MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE?

SECOND MR GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND DISCUSSION. >> WE HAVE WE ALSO CLARIFICATION FURTHER FOR THE PUBLIC ON JUST WHAT THIS MEANS. YES, MR RUDMAN.

YEAH. LET ME LET ME TRY AND LINK IN ESSENTIALLY.

WE HAD THAT CONSULTING STUDIES WHEN WE SET UP THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND THE NUMBER THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AT THAT POINT WAS ABOUT 16 MILLION DOLLARS BUT IT INCLUDED SOME THINGS LIKE CAPITAL AND CONTINGENCIES THAT WERE BEYOND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING AS WE WENT FORWARD. WE WERE TALKING AND I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING MOREE IN THE RANGE OF 10 MILLION AS THE GROWING IN NUMBER AND THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL WAS NOT TO MAKE IT A UNIFORM FEE BUT TO ACTUALLY SWITCH IT TO A MILLAGE.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND KNOWLEDGE AND HAVING A PARALLEL MILLAGE. THE DISCUSSION CENTERS ON IS IT 10 OR 11 AND THE 10 IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO WHAT WE WERE DOING BUT WITH THE CULVERT AND ALL WE DIDN'T REALLY PUT MUCH INTO THE CAPITAL. SO THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THE ELEVEN WOULD BE THE RIGHT NUMBER. AND SO ESSENTIALLY THE MILLAGE WOULD BE CALCULATED BY WHITNEY BY TAKING THE ELEVEN IF YOU WILL AND DIVIDING BY THE MILL VALUE AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME OUT SOMEPLACE BETWEEN FIVE THEN FIVE AND A HALF. BUT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE NEUTRAL COST NEUTRAL. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT TRANSFERRING SOME OUT OF THE THE GENERAL FUND AND THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE THAT PUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN PLACE.

IT WOULD BE I THINK AS WE GET TO SECOND READING WHITNEY CAN GIVE US AN EXACT NUMBER AND THIS WOULD BE GOING FORWARD IN PARALLEL WITH THE BUDGET ANYWAY.

SO IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT UP OR DOWN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO

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IT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR THAT'S NOT ESTABLISHED. THE ENTERPRISE FROM LAST YEAR IT WAS THOUGHT THAT THE ENTERPRISE FUND WOULD BE PAID FOR THROUGH A USER FEE.

>> SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT ORDINANCE WAS SET UP. COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO GO WITH MILLAGE NEEDED TO GO BACK TO THAT FROM A YEAR AGO AND TWEAK IT TO ALLOW FOR MILLAGE AND AND FRANKLY IT'S WRITTEN BROADLY SO THAT IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL THAT SHE COULD CHOOSE TROPHY OR ADD

A FEE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. >> BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING WITH THIS ORDINANCE IS ESTABLISHING THAT MILLAGE THE USER THE ORDNANCE THAT WAS GOING FORWARD IN PARALLEL IS NO LONGER NECESSARY. IT'S MOOT FRANKLY BY THE CHANGE FROM USER FEE TO MILLAGE. I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH REGARD TO ESTABLISHING IS WAS WHAT ERIC ASKED COUNCILS FOR LAST FRIDAY IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WHICH WAS TO GIVE SOME SOME GUIDANCE. SO ULTIMATELY THE MILLS THAT WILL BE CHOSEN WILL BE JUST SIMPLY ATTACHED TO THE BUDGET. BUT THIS ORDINANCE DOES AGAIN AS A MEANS LAST YEAR ORDER FROM

KNOWLEDGE RATHER THAN FEE. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT

CLARIFICATION, MR. LAWSON. >> JUST ONE COMMENT THAT THAT AS WE ESTABLISH THIS THIS FUND WE'RE REALLY PAYING FOR THIS OUT OF OUR OUR GENERAL FUND. THIS IS MONIES THAT WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING FOR SOLID WASTE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AND PUT IT INTO THE THE THE FUND THAT HANDLE SOLID WASTE AND THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE THEN WE CAN TRACK EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING SPENT FOR SOLID WASTE WHICH WE KNOW THOSE COSTS ARE GOING OUT OF HAND AND GOING UP EVERY YEAR.

SO AGAIN TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CERTAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING IT CAN BE THEN SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC AND BE PART OF JUST THAT ONE FUND THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THIS ALL WAY.

SO I I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT CLARIFY THAT LET EVERYONE KNOW THIS IS NOT A NEW TAX IS SOMETHING WE'RE PAYING FOR ALREADY. WE'RE JUST CHANGING IT SO IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT. OK. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON? YES.

OKAY. MIGHT I MIGHT. WELL, I'M SURE THE OPERATIVE THING MR. LAWSON JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE PRICES GOING UP AND THAT THIS FEE NOT ME. IN REALITY WE KNOW THAT IT'S PART OF OUR BUDGET IS ABOUT TO BALLOON VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE SOME EXPENSES COMING UP THAT ARE BEYOND THE NORMAL RANGE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING OVER THE YEARS. WE ANTICIPATE COSTS TO GO UP DRAMATICALLY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS WILL MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT, MORE OPEN TO PUBLIC ABOUT WHY IT'S GOING UP AND WHY IT'S NECESSARY FOR TO GO UP.

AND I SUPPORT THIS MOTION I THINK IS A GOOD THING. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE SAYING NO OTHER COMMENTS THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.

DO I SEE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PASSING THIS AS WRITTEN SAYING NO OBJECTION.

[23. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, PORT ROYAL, AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORT REGARDING PROJECT BURGER, GARDEN, GLASS AND STONE]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE FOR THAT? DON'T MOVE.

MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. FLOWING MAKES THE MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE.

SECOND, MS. HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ITEM? I SEE NO COMMENT. SO THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS? I DO NOT SEE ANY COUNCIL PERSON OBJECTING.

THEREFORE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE IS APPROVED. THERE ARE NO MATTERS THAT AROSE

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IS THERE ANY ONE ONLINE OR IN PERSON WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT? ABOUT TWO NIGHTS AGO. NO. THERE IS NOTHING MR. REVIEW BUILDING PERMIT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. SURE.

OKAY. WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SSR C AND PHILO.

THESE ARE METHODOLOGIES WHICH HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED TO REDUCE THE INVENTORY AND EQUIPMENT TAX FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME IN THE COUNTY FROM 10 PERCENT TO 6 PERCENT.

IT OCCURRED TO ME SOME TIME AGO AND I NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND PAYING 10 PERCENT WHICH PUTS THEM AT A HUGE DISADVANTAGE AGAINST SOMEBODY COMES IN FRESH? I THINK AT SOME POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO. I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE GET AN

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WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MR. GREENWAY, THAT I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO LOST ISSUE REAL QUICK, SIR, TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLEN'S EARLIER QUESTION. THERE ARE A LONG LIST OF EXEMPTIONS IN THE WITH REGARDS TO SALES AND USE TAXES. WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT AND SUMMARIZE THAT AND COMMUNICATION TO OUR ONLINE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM TO EVERYONE AS TO WHAT EXACTLY IS EXEMPT FROM THAT. THERE ARE MANY CATEGORIES GOVERNMENTAL RELATED EXEMPTIONS, BUSINESS RELATED EXEMPTIONS, AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTIONS, EDUCATIONAL EXEMPTIONS, GENERAL PUBLIC GOOD EXEMPTIONS, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AT ET GEMSTONES AND THEN THE LIST UNDERNEATH ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES ARE VERY VERY BROAD AND LENGTHY AND COMPREHENSIVE BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO SUMMARIZE THAT AND GET A PUBLIC NOTICE OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT. IF THAT IS SUITABLE.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT COMMENT.

YES, SIR. ALSO THE PACKET IF YOU READ THAT ARTICLE IN THE PACKET LAST FEW DAYS I THINK YOU'LL GET YOUR TAKE AWAY WOULD BE THAT IT'S ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING FOOD INCLUDING MEDICINE AND THAT'S MISLEADING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PACKET INTENTIONALLY DID THAT BUT I THINK I THINK IT DID. I'M SURE I HOPE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PUBLISH THAT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF EXEMPTIONS AND IT'S CRITICAL TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT THEY APPLY. JUST TO PAUL'S POINT ON MAY 10 IN THE 6 PERCENT I NEW BUSINESSES WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE THE REST OF THE STATE DOES IT OTHERWISE WILL BE NON COMPETITIVE. YOU RAISE A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION.

THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE I THINK MANY IN THE LEGISLATURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED.

WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT OR NOT I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR A WHILE.

I HAVEN'T DONE IT SEE NO BUSINESS TO BE CONDUCTED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.

IT IS NOW EIGHT 17 AND

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.