[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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MEETING TO ORDER. >> THIS IS A WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL ON FRIDAY ,APRIL 20 3RD 2021. WOULD YOU ARRANGE FOR THE BUDGET LEG?
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> TAKING A LOOK AT THE MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THAT WE DO IN FACT HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL. HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE? AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS I SEE MR. SOMERVILLE WE JUST HAVE ONE HERE, SIR.
>> AND THIS ONE MR. GLOVER IS ONLINE AND IT'S LABELED AS IPHONE.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE SIX OF US TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.
OK, EIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE WE ARE A QUORUM, OK?
[5. FY22 ELECTED OFFICIALS BUDGET PRESENTATIONS]
I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, STU LAWSON TO BEGIN TODAY'S AGENDA. MR. LAWSON, THANK YOU. I WAS ON THERE.I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. AND YES, AND JUST THANK YOU, HARRIET WHO HAS BEEN HELPING TO SET FOLKS UP. SO WE HAVE PEOPLE SET UP FOR TODAY.
AND LET ME SEE. HAYES CAN WE FIND OUT WHO IS OUR FIRST PRESENTER FOR TODAY'S MEETING? IF YOU DON'T MIND. HAYES I WILL DO THAT REAL QUICK. I'LL GIVE I GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW TO THE COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY. WE HAVE INVITED ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL THIS MORNING FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
ARE FOLKS BEING COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS AND NOT FILLING THE NAME THE ONLY ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT HAS TAKEN US UP ON THE OFFER THIS MORNING IS THE SHERIFF AND HIS STAFF.
SO YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE HOME OF ONCE I CONCLUDE MY SUMMARY COMMENTS HERE AND THEY WILL BE GLAD TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION AND TRAINING QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
>> AFTER THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WITH COUNCIL BECAUSE STAFF NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION AND CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL ON HOW TO PROCEED ON TWO LARGE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. ONE IS THE SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE FEE. WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU ALL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CARRY THAT FORWARD AND SO THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING MECHANISMS AND THE REVENUE THAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED FROM THE USER FEE SO THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE US SOME DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DETAIL THAT OUT IN FINISH THAT OFF AS A PART OF THE BUDGET. THAT'LL BE HANDLED BY JARED FÉLIX AND WITH THE ORIGINAL AND COUNCIL MEMBER RODMAN AND THEN THE FINAL THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ON TODAY IS THE COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.
THAT'S A RATHER LARGE ITEM. IF YOU FUND IT FULLY IT'S GOING TO BE IN EXCESS OF SIX MILLION DOLLARS TO OUR BUDGET THAT IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS WITH REGARDS TO NEW PERSONNEL AND EXISTING VACANCIES. MITCH RICHLAND IS GOING TO HANDLE THAT AFTER WE CONCLUDE THE SOLID WASTE PRICE DISCUSSION. SO THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE DAY.
WE MAKE IT OUT EARLY. WE MAY GO LONG DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL MAY HAVE. I WILL.
ARE WE READY FOR THE SHERIFF? HE IS LOOKING AND HE'S WALKING OVER.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE SHERIFF IS WALKING OVER.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THE SHERIFF TO ARRIVE IN THE BUILDING? OK. CHEERING NONE.
WE WILL WAIT ON THE SHERIFF TO TO ARRIVE. I THINK HE'S WALKING ACROSS THE YARD NOW.
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BORROW BORROW WAIT ON THE SHERIFF. I WILL UPDATE OUR COUNSEL ON ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM IS AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF A LOT OF POTS OF MONEY RIGHT NOW. FROM THE RECOVERY ACT AND VARIOUS TABLOIDS STIMULUS PACKAGES BOTH AT THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE HAVE STARTED A COMMITTEE HERE OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT INCLUDES COUNTY STAFF IN ADDITION TO TWO FIRE CHIEFS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU EVENTUALLY REGARDING EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO RECENTLY WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT GROUP TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM USCCB AND T.C. L AND AT OUR LAST MEETING THIS WEEK WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD EXPAND THE GROUP EVEN FURTHER TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE PALLIATIVES. AND BASICALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE IS TWOFOLD IS ONE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS AND ALL OF THE VARIOUS ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY AND TO SAY THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO TARGET THOSE PROJECTS TO THE VARIOUS POTS OF MONEY WITHOUT OVERLAPPING OR DUPLICATING EFFORT HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE OUR ABILITY TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO US. SO YOU MAY HEAR ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS GOING ON. WE ARE DOING THE PRIMARY WORK RIGHT NOW IN THE STUDIES FOR THAT. WE WILL PRESENT THAT LIST. COUNSEL, I GIVE YOU ALL PRESENTATION ONCE WE COMPLETE THAT THAT LIST BUT THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW FROM THESE POTS OF MONEY AND WE'RE WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL. SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR VERY CAPABLE AND EFFECTIVE SHERIFF NOW AND LET HIM INTRODUCE WHOMEVER IS GOING TO PRESENT HIS IS A BUDGET REQUEST TO SEE THIS AS THE CHAIRMAN CAN I COMMEND SOMETHING BEFORE THE SHERIFF COMES FORWARD?>> I YEAH, IT'S FINE WITH ME. >> YES, GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN.
YES. THANK YOU, ERIC. YOU MENTIONED THE STIMULUS MONEY THAT'S COMING DOWN. IS THAT PART OF THE DEAL? SO THE CORBETT RELEASE MONEY
OUT OF JOE BIDEN OFFICE? YES, IT HAS. >> YEAH.
OK. WE REFERRED AS PART OF THE AMERICAN RECOVERY PROTECTION
ACT. GOT THE DEBT THERE. >> A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THERE. AND I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU AND I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT EXPAND THAT COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE SOME AREAS THAT ARE NOT NORMALLY INVOLVED BUT IS INCLUDED IN THAT RELEASE. SO I JUST WANT TO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM PUTS YOU SAYING AS FAR AS HEARD D BUT THAT BILL ALSO INCLUDES A LOT OF AREAS THERE'S BEEN NEGLECT FOR YEARS AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHO SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE
FUNDS. >> I UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO REVIEW THE GUIDANCE AND FIGURE OUT WHO WHAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR WHAT PROGRAMS CAN BE COVERED WITH THAT MONEY. AND ONCE WE DO THAT THEN WE WILL PROBABLY BE REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS THEY MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US TO SUBMIT FOR FUNDING AS WELL.
BUT YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN AND IT'S I'M TRYING TO TAKE A COMPREHEND.
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO ACCESS THESE FUNDS.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT COUNCIL MEMBER YOUR SEAT. >> THANK YOU.
C GOOD MORNING, SUZANNE. >> COHEN WILL PRESENT THE BUDGET I'M HERE OR ANY
QUESTIONS AS WELL AS DEPUTY MIKE MURRAY. >> HOW'S EVERYBODY THIS
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MORNING? >> ALL RIGHT. >> I'D LIKE TO START OUT BY SAYING WHAT A HIGH VARIANCE IT HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH WHITNEY. PINKY HAYES, SARAH AND HER CREW. IT IS VERY REFRESHING TO HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
PAUL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE. THEY'RE MAKING HUGE GRINDS AND STREAMLINING THINGS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. IT'S ACTUALLY EFFECTING EVERYONE AND OBVIOUSLY INCLUDING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE PURCHASING CHILD THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING FEAT IF YOU GUYS CAN INCREASE THINGS FOR ALL OF US.
>> DEFINITELY MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY. WITH THAT SAID THIS YEAR THE BUDGET PRESENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING VARIABLES AND TALKING WITH PINKY AND WHITNEY CONSOLIDATION OF SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA AND WE ARE DEFINITELY WANTING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PARTICULAR EXERCISE AND TO HAVE THEM INTO NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE PROVIDED A SPREADSHEET KIND OF A A MACRO AND A LITTLE BIT OF A MICRO LEVEL BECAUSE I KNOW THERE NEVER DEFINITELY PERSONALITIES ON HERE THAT I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID LAST YEAR HOW CAN THEY SEE I HAVE A PAPER COPY SO I'M NECESSARILY
AND I'VE LEFT OUT ONE PERSON. >> HAYES HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AS WELL.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE HIM SOME POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT POSITIVE COMPLIMENTS.
>> CERTAINLY. AND IN ORDER TO STAY CONSISTENT FROM THE APRIL 9TH BUDGET WORKSHOP I TOOK PINKY'S PRESENTATION METHOD, HER TEMPLATE AND BASICALLY THE FIRST COLUMN LISTS ALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT NUMBERS AND ANY
GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS THAT WE HAVE. >> THE SECOND COLUMN IS STRAIGHT FROM HER PRESENTATION AS WELL. THE FISCAL 19 ACTUAL NUMBERS AS WAS FOLLOWING CALL THE FISCAL YEAR 20 ACTUAL. SO THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF THE STANDARD INFORMATION. SO GOING FORWARD IN FISCAL YEAR 21 APPROVED MUNIS COLUMN.
I LIKE TO LOOK DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TOTAL AT THE THIRTY ONE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY NINE THOUSAND TWO FORTY NINE. THAT IS THE EXACT NUMBER IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE FOR THIS
YEAR'S REFUNDS. >> BECAUSE NEXT WE SUBMITTED THE NEXT COLUMN FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT WAS 1 TOTAL OF THE TWENTY NINE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY ONE
THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SEVEN DOLLARS. >> WELL THAT WAS AS OF MARCH 17 AND AS WE STATED IN THE SHAREPOINT THINGS WOULD CHANGE IN WORKING WITH PINKY AND WHITNEY IN HAYS TAKEN THE CONSOLIDATION OF OUR ELECTRICITY WATER AND SEWER, THE GARAGE MAINTENANCE AND THE RISK MANAGED RISK MANAGEMENT INSURANCE.
>> WE HAVE NOW SUBTRACTED THOSE AMOUNTS FROM OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY RECONCILING AND CONSOLIDATING THEM INTO A GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR INTERNAL SERVICE FOUND
WHEREVER THEY'RE PUTTING THEM. >> SO WE HAVE DECREASED OUR BUDGET BY THOSE AMOUNTS BUT JUST TO BE PERFECTLY ON THE SAME PAGE. THERE'S REALLY NOT A DECREASE.
IT'S REALLY JUST A TRANSFER OVER ONE THING WITH A BARRAGE MAINTENANCE.
>> WE WILL HAVE SOME BOAT REPAIR EXPENDITURES BECAUSE THAT IS APPARENTLY FOR THE CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY GARAGE WHICH IS FIRST VEHICLE SERVICES AND OUR BOATS ACTUALLY ARE SERVICED BY WEBSTER MARINE NEXT . THE FOLLOWING COLUMN WE HAVE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS TO INCLUDE THE TRANSFERS FOR CONSOLIDATION.
FOLLOWING HOME, SHERIFF TANNER HAS MADE REVISIONS TO EACH ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT NUMBERS AS
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WELL AND THE NEXT COLUMN IS AS OF TODAY. OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND REQUEST IS THAT TWENTY EIGHT MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND ELEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTEEN DOLLARS.>> WELL AND TAKING IT TO COMPARE IT TO FIT TWENTY ONE PRIEST OF THREE MILLION SIX HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT A REASON WHY THAT SUCH A LARGE DECREASE IS BECAUSE OF THE HILTON HEAD ENFORCEMENT FEE. THOSE EXPENDITURES NOW HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND INTO THAT SPECIAL ROUND REVENUE FUND.
>> SO THE NEXT SLIDE AND LAST SLIDE JUST TO KIND OF SHOW IN SUMMARY OR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT THIRTY ONE MILLION A FIFTY NINE TO FORTY NINE AND THEN TO HAVE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON WE ADD BACK IN ARE WE TAKE OUR REQUEST TWENTY EIGHT MILLION TWO HUNDRED ELEVEN A FIFTEEN ADD BACK THE CONSOLIDATION NUMBERS ADD BACK THE HILTON HEAD LAW ENFORCEMENT NUMBERS TO GET THIRTY THREE MILLION NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY DOLLARS. SO REALLY OUR BUDGET INCREASE IS ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE DOLLARS AND GENERAL FUND.
>> SO I WANTED TO EVERYONE TO HAVE THAT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT INCREASE AS YOU KNOW WE DIDN'T PURCHASE ANY VEHICLES THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED TWELVE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND THE ACCESSORIES AND THAT'S OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND THE REMAINING IS AS THE SHERIFF WOULD SAY, A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I'M SURE THE REMAINING COST OF DOING BUSINESS INCREASES IN
PRINTING SUPPLIES ON LINE ITEMS. >> SO AT THIS TIME THE FILING
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY? >> YEAH I'LL I'LL GO AHEAD.
YES. YOU KNOW A VERY PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION CERTAINLY MAKES A LOT SENSE. I THINK IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH ANY OF WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE. SOME OF COUNSEL'S HEARD ME SAY THIS IT RELATIVE TO THE HILTON HEAD FEE. WHAT I KIND OF ENVISION HAPPENING IS THAT IT'S IN THE COURT SYSTEM TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW IT HAPPENS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT COST NEEDS TO BE IN YOUR BUDGET. AND THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER WE COLLECT IT AS A UNIFORM FEE OR THEY COLLECTED IN THEIR MILLAGE AND THEN SEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER TO US. SO I DON'T SEE IT AFFECTING YOUR BUDGET LONG TERM AND I WOULD GUESS WHERE WE WOULD END UP EVEN IF THE COURTS DECIDE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY IT, THEY'RE STILL BETTER OFF FOR THE CITIZENS TO COLLECT IT THROUGH MILLAGE AND WRITE A CHECK TO THE COUNTY THAN WE ARE TO COLLECT THE SEPARATE FEE.
BUT DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. THAT'S JUST A RELATED COMMENT.
I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO CFO RITUAL. >> YES, YES.
SO SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IF THAT'S
OKAY. >> THE FIRST COMMENT AND THE SPIRIT ALSO TEAMWORK.
>> I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS REVIEWING THEIR VACANCIES AND WE HAVE REVIEWED OURS AS WELL
AND WE ARE FINDING 15 OF THEM FOR NEXT YEAR. >> NOW THAT'S NOT WE ARE NOT
FUNDING 16 OF THEM. >> SO AT THIS POINT I KNOW THE SHERIFF WANTED TO EXPAND UPON THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 21. WE ARE GOING TO CARRY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN ORDER TO BE APPROPRIATE WITH THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THOSE EXPENDITURES AND SOME OF THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS WILL NOT BE COMPLETE BY FISCAL YEAR 21 YEAR END. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR THEM TO THAT MONEY TO BE CARRIED OVER IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THOSE PURCHASES AND RENOVATIONS.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WILL QUESTION THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
JEFF, IF MY MIND IS CORRECT, THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS THESE SIX THOUSAND.
I MEAN JUST WAS AT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND. THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 2 PERCENT
OF YOUR BUDGET INCREASE. >> YES, THERE IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 2 PERCENT OF JUST BETWEEN
1 AND 2 THAT. >> YES SIR. I THINK IT'S ABOUT ONE POINT
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OUR ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS EVERYONE HAS? >> THIS IS CHRIS.
CHRIS, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'VE GOT THREE QUESTIONS.
>> YOU WANT TO DO ALL AT ONCE? LET ME LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO.
I NEED TO BRING HIM OUT. NUMBER ONE, WE'VE GOT A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION.
>> NUMBER TWO, WILL WE RECEIVE A LINE BUDGET LIKE LAST YEAR THAT BREAKS OUT SALARIES, BENEFITS, SUPPLIES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE DETAIL ON THE TOTAL BUDGET AS WELL AS THE YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGE AND THE NUMBER THREE AT THE HILTON HEAD NUMBER SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MOVING TARGET THIS PAST YEAR AND CERTAINLY OVER THE PAST YEAR ESPECIALLY TISCHLER VISE NUMBER CAME OUT I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR POINT THREE MILLION.
>> SO IS THERE A METHODOLOGY AROUND AND COULD YOU SPEAK FOR ANOTHER THREE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS WAS ARRIVED AND WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET THE DETAIL BEHIND THAT TO YOU JUST LIKE THE OVERALL BUDGET QUESTION NUMBER ONE WITH THE WELL YOU GET A COPY OF THIS
PRESENTATION. >> I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CLERK REPORT AND BRENNAN AS WELL THAT THEY JUST EMAIL THAT OUT TO YOU. QUESTION NUMBER TWO WILL YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM BUDGET THAT'S ACTUALLY IN SHAREPOINT NOW AND I THINGS WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR AND PINKY WHITNEY THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN NEXT WEEK'S AS WELL AS QUESTION NUMBER THREE.
>> WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT AND WHEN YOU GET THE PRESENTATION SECTION BENEFITS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT THREE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET PREVIOUSLY THOSE POOL THOSE BENEFITS WERE ACTUALLY POOLED IN A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT.
SO IT'S ABOUT 550000 APPROXIMATELY. SO THE BUDGET IS CORRECT AND YES, YOU WILL HAVE THE LINE ITEM INFORMATION WITH THE HELP HIM ON ENFORCEMENT SERVICES AS
WELL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST BLUSH. I CAN'T PROMISE THAT I WON'T HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS I'M SURE YOU WOULD YOU WOULD ASSUME AFTER WE GET THE DETAIL ON AFTER GETTING A CHANCE TO DIGEST EVERYTHING BUT TO GET FIRST BLUSH AND APPRECIATE THE
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OUT THERE? >> WELL, I'D PROBABLY ASK THAT ONCE WE RECEIVED THE DETAILED LINE ITEM BUDGET THAT POSSIBLY GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK DOWN JUST EITHER WHEN WE GET THAT AND WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS OFF THAT THAT'S OKAY. SO WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WHEN THAT IS THERE OBVIOUSLY. SHERIFF, AGAIN, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU IF THAT'S OKAY. >> NO, I MEAN WE'VE WORKED WE'RE HERE. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I AM CURIOUS THOUGH YOU'LL GET A COPY OF THE DETAILED BUDGET BUT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AND MAYBE WE CAN HELP YOU? WELL, REALLY NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING BUT OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE GET THAT AND GO THROUGH IT. IF WE DO HAVE AS WELL AS ONE WOULD ASK THAT HAVE YOU COME BACK AND ANSWER SOME OF THOSE AND HOPEFULLY IT'S A DETAILED ENOUGH BUDGET LIKE LAST YEAR THAT WE WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED EVERYTHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IN THERE. BUT AGAIN, JUST JUST THAT REQUEST IF WE DID NEED SOMETHING. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOUR OFFICE BEING ONE THE THE LARGER YOUR OFFICE IS OUT THERE WHERE WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. SO OBVIOUSLY WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND YOU GET A CHANCE TO ANSWER OUR
QUESTIONS. >> AND PLEASE BY ALL MEANS I KNOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE PHONE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY SUZANNE'S BY MY CHIEF DEPUTY AND I AND I MAKE THIS
RECOMMENDATION EVERY YEAR. >> PLEASE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SETTING AT ANYTIME AND I HAVE A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WILL THAT WILL CALL INDEPENDENTLY CALL MY CELL PHONE OR CALL ME AT THE OFFICE. DO YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT ANYTHING? >> PLEASE PICK UP THE PHONE CALL OR SEND US AN EMAIL AND WE
PREFER TO CHAT WITH YOU. >> YOU KNOW THE E-MAIL PEOPLE TO DEATH.
IT'S EASY JUST TO PICK UP THE PHONE. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CELL NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE INVITE AND WELCOME THOSE THOSE PHONE CALLS AND THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> GREAT. >> I AGREE. YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN OPEN BOOK AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S COME THROUGH.
SHERIFF, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ENERGY AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE BROUGHT TO US TODAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF SINCE WE HAVE
HIM HERE? >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
SHERIFF, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THAT'S COMING FORWARD.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STAFF AND THE STAFF AND YOUR STAFF.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SEPARATION OF CLEARLY SHOWING THE EFFORT ON HILTON HEAD
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BOARDS. VERSUS WHAT IS DONE FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY.SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU WILL BE FORWARD IN PRESENTING THAT TO US.
THANK YOU. WELL, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. AND LET ME LET ME ALSO SAY BECAUSE I KNOW SUZANNE AND I WERE OR WE TALK MULTIPLE AND EVERY DAY BUT I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE STAFF TO BEAUFORT COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS THE COUNTY LEVEL THE COUNTY COUNCIL DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN BRINGING THEIR FINANCE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, PINKY AND ALL THOSE TO THE TABLE HERE. THEY'RE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB. THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THEY HAVE AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ARE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY STREAMLINING EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL IN THIS PROCESS HERE.
SO I COMMEND COUNTY COUNCIL ON BRINGING THAT STEP FORWARD OR DOING A GREAT JOB AND WE ENJOY WORKING WITH THEM. THAT MEANS A LOT. CUT IT.
IT CUTS TO THE CHASE AND WE CAN GET THINGS DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. AND AGAIN, WE DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU BRING OUR STAFF WITH THIS RIBAUT LAND AND MR. HAYES AND HARRIET AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT THAT WE ARE WE THINK WE ARE DEFINITELY HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE SEE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING ALREADY THERE AND GIVE THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU.
AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO PRESENT NEXT? I THINK OUR NEXT DISCUSSION
THIS MORNING IS A SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE UPON YOU. >> I'D ASK SOME INFORMATION ABOUT MILLAGE AND WHAT THAT EQUATE TO AND I'M PROBABLY GONE ON A LIMB HERE AND I MAY MISSTATE SOME THINGS. SO GERARD AND WHITNEY AND COUNCILMAN RODMAN CAN I CLEAR
UP ANY MISTAKES THAT I MIGHT MAKE HERE? >> BUT CURRENTLY WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT ABOUT FIVE MEALS GOES TOWARD SOLID WASTE FROM THE CURRENT REFORM TAX PROCESS
. >> THAT RATE IS ABOUT 10 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, MAYBE A LITTLE LITTLE OVER THAT FOR SOLID WASTE. WHEN WE DID THE USER FEES STUDY THIS STUDY WAS BASED UPON GENERATING REVENUE OF 16 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
SO WE'RE STARTING FROM THAT BASIS I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO JARED NOW TO KIND OF START AND DISCUSSION OFF ABOUT THE NEEDS AND WHY IT WAS THAT AMOUNT OF REVENUE AND THE USER FEE STUDY AND ALL OF THAT. BEFORE I DO THAT I WANTED TO REFRESH COUNSEL'S MEMORY THAT PRIOR TO THE USER FEE AND I'M NOT RECOMMEND OR SAYING THAT WE NEEDED TO GO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THIS BUT I WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING PRIOR TO THE IDEA OF THE USER FEE COMING AND THAT WAS WE WERE CONSIDERING AND THEN ASKED TISCH OR BUYS TO ALSO DO A STUDY ON A SOLID WASTE IMPACT FEE THAT WOULD ALLOW NEW GROWTH TO KIND OF HELP PAY FOR SOME
OF THESE THINGS THAT WAS ABANDONED. >> WHENEVER WE STARTED THIS THE END USER FEE IDEA AND WE DID NOT PURSUE THAT AGAIN BUT THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO RAISE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SHOULD COUNCIL WANT TO DO THAT IN ADDITION TO DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND THROUGH THE MILLAGE.
SO JARED, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU NOW. LET YOU LET YOU EXPAND ON WHAT
I'VE JUST TOLD COUNSEL. THANK YOU. >> YOU SAY THAT.
SO AS ERIC MENTIONED, COUNCIL WE WE'RE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS THAT WERE PUT FORTH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS. ANY PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN MOST RECENTLY A SECOND HEARING AND THE SECOND HEARING WAS THE DISCUSSION OF MOVING IT FROM THE FEE OF ONE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS TOWARDS A MILLAGE AND THERE WAS A RIGHT IN THAT CALCULATION WAS WE LOOKED AT THE 10 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE ENTERPRISE AND OUR SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS CURRENTLY PLACED PRETTY CLOSE TO FIVE NEEDS WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT TO SEE AND AND DEVELOP A COST AN OVERALL BUDGET PRESENT. AND YOU GUYS AS A MIDDLE NEUTRAL BUDGET WHAT WE CAN CARVE OUT OF WHAT IS DESCRIBED IN THE LEAST VATICAN CONSULTING AS MENTIONED IN THE PIECE STUDY THERE IS A 16 THE ARE OUR OPERATING EXPENSE INCLUDED IN
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THAT WAS ALSO FOR EXTRA PERSONNEL OR OPERATING RESERVE EXTRA COSTS FOR OPERATING COSTS AND ALSO THE CAPITAL OUTLAY TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS CLOSE TO THE IN OUR OPERATING FUNCTION THAT TODAY WILL ROLL OUT AS AN EFFECTIVE ENTERPRISE AND IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WEACTUALLY REDUCED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CAPITAL OUTLAY. >> SO TOGETHER THIS YEAR IN THE BUDGET PLUS A SMALLER AMOUNT OF THAT HOURLY WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD INCREASE OUR BUDGET TO ELEVEN MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ENTERPRISE.
AND IT'S STILL FUNCTION AS DESIGN WITH THE EXCLUSION AS AS ERIC MENTIONED THAT THERE STILL MAKE YOU SOME NEED FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY NOT INCLUDED IN THAT POWERS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WE'VE DESCRIBED TO PREVIOUSLY HAD ELSEWHERE THREE DISABILITY DISABILITIES BEING SO WITH THE 11 MILLION AND WE COORDINATED THE FINANCE BILL LAST CAN OVERCOME THAT INCREASED AERIAL BUDGET STILL PROVIDE THAT OVERALL BUDGET NEUTRAL MILITIA NEUTRAL BUDGET. SO THAT WOULD BE OUT THOSE THAT THE EQUIVALENT WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE FAMILIES INSTEAD OF THE BUT WE WILL IT'S UP IN THE OVERALL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF THE 5 MILLS GENERATES CLOSER TO 10 THEN ELEVEN IS YOUR THOUGHT TO TAKE THE DELTA OUT OF THE REST OF THE GENERAL FUND? YES. OKAY. AND THE OTHER THING IS CAPITAL PROJECTS. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT WHAT IT MIGHT BE? I KNOW IT'S HYPOTHETICAL BUT WHAT MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE
PIKE? >> SURE. SO LURK IN THE MATERIAL OF OUR FACILITY. WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A THIS ONE TO START WITH OR POSSIBLY A LARGER ONE HOUR AND THE LARGER ONE LATER THE SMALLER ONE WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE RECYCLABLES.
OUR PROSTHETIST OUR THERE WOULD BE BUT IF WE OPEN THAT UP TO TAKE LARGER AMOUNTS LACE EITHER THE CURVES AT ALL ARE RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T DRIVE THE DEAL AND WE NEED A LARGER FACILITY THAT ALSO IF WE LOOK AT LONG TERM SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS, IF WE CONSIDER OTHER RISK HYPER LET'S SAY A SINGLE STREAM TYPE OF METHOD THERE IS THE LARGER FEED THAT SO THOSE ARE TWO CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ANOTHER AND IF WE SET LARGER VOLUMES AND WASTE AND A SINGLE WASTE STREAM THERE WOULD BE SOME OUTPUT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED ON THE REAR END OF THAT BUILDING
EITHER IN A TRANSFER STATION OR A WASTE ENERGY FACILITY. >> SO THOSE WOULD BE SUBSEGMENT
CAPITAL OUTLAYS. >> AND THEN LASTLY THE EASIEST AND EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE AS LARGE OF A OUTLAY THERE STILL IS OUTLAY ON THE. SO RIGHT NOW AGAIN WE IT AT THE CONVENIENCE TARGET AND SO IF WE ESTABLISH COMPOSTING EFFORTS THERE'S SOME CAPITAL OUTLAY EQUIPMENT THAT WE REQUIRE FOR THAT AND WHEN POSSIBLE. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF IDEAS OF FUTURE CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TOWARDS OVER THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
ARE WE ANY POINT IN YOUR MIND ARE WE ANY CLOSER TO A TRANSFER STATION?
>> NOT AT THIS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A TRANSFER STATION WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THE SITING THAT WHERE THAT SITE WILL BE AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL BACKS THAT ARE OUR ORDINANCE IS THAT WE HAVE A LIST IN COUNTY. SO ESTABLISHING THE SITE IS IS FIRST AND FIRST PRIORITY TO ESTABLISH A TRANSFER STATION MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULDN'T JUST DEVELOP A TRANSFER BASED ON THIS LOAN WILL BE A PART OF A MATERIAL.
SO JUST LET ME KNOW I'M I'M WRONG. BUT LET ME JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT I'VE HEARD IS CURRENTLY OUT THE GENERAL BUDGET WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 10 MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOLID WASTE. THE USER FEE THAT WE HAD PUT IN
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PLACE WHICH WAS THE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS PER UNIT THAT WAS GOING TO COVER THE 10 MILLION DOLLARS. THEN ALSO GIVE US SOME MONEY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF WE SWITCH BACK TO NOT BEING A USER FEE BUT BY MILLAGE AT AT 5 MILLS WE WOULD JUST BE COVERING THE COST OF THE CURRENT SOLID WASTE BUT AT 5.5 THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE US SOME ROOM FOR THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF WE GO JUST THE FIVE MIL WE THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TRYING TO FUND THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SOMEPLACE ELSE AND EITHER BE THROUGH GENERAL FUND OR AS MR. GREENWAY JUST MENTIONED JUST HAVING AN IMPACT FEE DROP THAT IDEA WHENEVER WE WITH THE USER FEE IDEA. SO IN GENERAL IS THAT KIND AHEAD THAT I COULD ASK YOU TO PRESENCE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH QUICKER AND SMOOTHER.YES, THAT'S EXACTLY PERFECT SUMMATION. ALL RIGHT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS AS COUNCIL COMING UP HERE AND HOW COULD WE KNOW WE'RE GOING OUT TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE KNOW THAT SOLID WASTE IS IS NOT GOING TO GO DOWN AND WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING MONEY CURRENTLY OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. SO AFTER KNOWING THAT I QUESTION THE ATLAS, YOU HAD
YOUR HAND UP. GO AHEAD THIS HOUR. >> YES.
GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TRANSFER STATION, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PLANS TO UPDATE THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN. IS THAT GOING TO BE A SEPARATE
STUDY ABOUT LOCATION OR WILL YOU INCLUDE THAT IN THE UPDATE? >> WILL BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE UPDATE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE GET THAT WE'VE UPDATED ACCORDINGLY EVERY QUARTER. I'VE SCHEDULED THE SIGNING FOR THAT TRANSFER STATION OR THE OTHER WASTE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS INJURY WOULD BE A SEPARATE STUDY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY WE HAVEN'T BEEN CONSULTANT IN A PROPOSAL TO DO THAT STUDY.
THAT'S NOT A THAT'S JUST A PIECE OF WHAT COULD BE THE UPDATE.
BUT UPDATE IS A SEPARATE ONE IS UPDATE TO WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
>> IT NOW HAS TO HAVE INITIATIVE THINKING I CAN SEE EVERYONE'S HANDS AS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, CHAIRMAN? YES, GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. STUART, I I I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT THE TRANSFER STATION IS CRITICAL FOR US RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS IS IS THE TRANSFER OF STATION A MANAGEMENT ISSUE OR IS IT A POLITICAL FOR YOU RIGHT NOW AND YOU MAY NOT WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO SORT IT OUT TO IS AN INSIGHT INTO YOU GOTTA FIND A STATE RIGHT NOW. HER ORDINANCE COUNTY ORDINANCE WE HAVE A SECOND SETBACK ANY DIRECTION FROM THE PROPERTY THE A A TRANSFER STATION. SO THAT JUST GETS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROPERTY THAT'S 12 FEET WITH NO OTHER ACTIONS. SO THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES SO FINE ON THIS SITE THAT MEETS THOSE CRITERIA. THIS IS THE BIGGEST PRIORITY FOR ME WATER TRANSPORTATION AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE COMPONENTS.
IS THAT IS THAT IS THAT RIGHT NOW I HAVE ANY SITE THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR HAND OR OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS FINDING SITES THAT WOULD MEET THOSE DESCRIPTIONS.
>> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. I MEAN WE JUST HAD A PROPOSAL FROM A CONSULTANT TO HELP US IN THAT ENDEAVOR. WE HAVE A FEW SITES THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN THAT THAT COULD BE POTENTIALS BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL AS SITES THAT GO HOME TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE WE WANT US IN THE BEST LOCATION. IT MAKES MOST SENSE DECIDED IN THE SOUTHERN OR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THE CRASH IS GENERATED AND THE WHOLE PART OF THE TRANSFER STATION IS TO REDUCE THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS ALL IN COST. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSED.
AS I DO A TRANSFER STATION BUT AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT WAS NOT IN THE THANK YOU
CHAIRMAN. >> THAT'S THE PAST BUT GO AHEAD.
>> OK. BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR WE HAD RECEIVED A PRESENTATION FROM DAVE WILHELM ABOUT THE REASON WE NEEDED TO CLOSE TWO OF OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
AND THERE WAS A PRESS OUT BY HIM AT THAT TIME TALKING ABOUT ROUGHLY ALMOST AN 11 PERCENT
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INCREASE EACH HERE IN THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR WASTE AND RECYCLING.AND THAT WE NEEDED TO CUT THOSE COSTS OTHERWISE WE WERE GOING TO BE UP WELL OVER 14 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS BY CLOSING THE TWO. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THE PRECEDENT OF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT ON WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING NOW AS TO MOVE FROM THE GENERAL BUDGET INTO ITS OWN BUDGET CAN MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE. NOW HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT BUT WE HAVE THREE WAYS USER FEE ,A MILLAGE RATE OR POSSIBLY SOME SORT COMBINATION OF THE TWO WHICH MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE LONGER WE WAIT THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO BE. EARTH DAY YESTERDAY THEY COLLECTED TWELVE THOUSAND POUNDS OF GARBAGE THAT ARE ON OUR ROADWAYS. THAT'S SIX TONS OF GARBAGE THAT COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY. SO THIS IS A CRITICAL PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. YOUR SUMMARIZATION WAS PERFECT. I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT THAT NOW IN WRITING SO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HAS GOT TO SAY THIS IS THE TIME YOU HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GLOVER. IT IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE THAT WE CITE PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS TRANSFER STATION SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO DO WITH OTHER STATES ARE DOING THAT WE CAN MODEL AFTER THEM AND REALLY BEGIN TO RECYCLE, REUSE, REPURPOSE THE WASTE THAT WE HAVE. YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY THANKS TO
COUNCILMAN DARVISH. >> AHEAD. I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS FROM
HERE. >> SO NUMBER ONE, THE 10 MILLION DOLLARS GENERATED BY FIVE NODES DOES CONTEMPLATE THE INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF MIL YEAR OVER YEAR AND IF SO, HOW MUCH IS THAT OR HOW MUCH CAN BE ANTICIPATED? SO MAYBE DALTON, BETWEEN THE 11 MILLION AND 10 MILLION REALLY IS A MILLION. MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING LESS HOPEFULLY HELPING US TO ANSWER AND NOT PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH ANYWAY.
THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION NUMBER TWO. WITH THE ONE MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND CLOSE THAT GAP IS NOT A ONE TIME THING OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A PERPETUAL SO FIRST ON THE MIDDLE CLASS IN WHICH WE TYPICALLY HAVE THE ANSWER ON THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OF THE MIDDLE DUE TO THE PROPERTY TAX LATE GOING OUT, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION YET. SO KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD BE. HOWEVER WITH THE MIDDLE AS FAST RISE IN SOLID WASTE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IS SUCH AN EXPECTATION WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL INCREASE IN VALUE WOULD ALSO KEEP THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS SO WE DON'T ADD A LITTLE VALUE TO FUNDERS ON THE ENTERPRISE AS FAR AS THE SECOND QUESTION IS. ACTUALLY I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. IF YOU CAN REPEAT SECOND QUESTION.
YES, NO PROBLEM. >> SO THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE MILLION DOLLAR DOUBLE TIME.
SO THE DIFFERENCE AND I THINK WE NEED 10 MILLION EVERYTHING THAT I'VE KNOWS IS GOING TO GENERATE I'M DOING NOW AS YOU THE KIND OF A GENERAL ON RIBAUT BE A ONE TIME AND YOU'RE IN THIS PAPER THAT WOULD BE A PERPETUAL DAY. IT WOULD BE A PERPETUAL THING.
BUT THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE BUDGET TO PRESENT A NO MILL BUDGET CHANGE WOULD ALL WORK TOGETHER. SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT YOU.
GREAT QUESTIONS, CHRIS. THANK YOU. JUST TO CHRIS'S POINT THAT DELTA YOU KNOW IN THE PRESENTATION THAT DAVE WILHELM DID.
HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THIS COMING YEAR WE WOULD NEED ABOUT TEN POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS TO RUN THE FACILITY. THE WAY WE HAVE. SO TO YOUR POINT, CHRIS.
YES, WHATEVER MILL IS THAT THAT COST THAT MILL MAY SHRINK THAT DELTA BECAUSE WE KNOW THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE NUMBER OF HOMES THIS PAST YEAR COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE
AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE ATTACKS. >> SOME GO AND OR GERARD I GUESS I MEAN IS IT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT THE FIVE WOULD REALLY COVER THAT TEN POINT TWO
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MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE NEED FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR? AND I MEAN I WOULD IMAGINE JUST A GUESS IT WOULD BE MATERIALLY CLOSE. I WOULD THINK SO, CHRIS.YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UNTIL FINANCE CAN ACTUALLY CALCULATE THE VALUE OF THE MILL, WE'RE STILL GUESSING. BUT I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT JUST THE POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW AT THINK IS THE MIDDLE OF THE BAD MILL THE VALUE OF THE MILL STILL TARGET?
>> IT'S WITHIN A A BUDGET THAT IS EQUAL AND WE CAN GO IN AND GRAB ME IF I'M WRONG.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SOLID WASTE. THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN ELEVEN MILLION DOLLARS MILLS ASIDE THAT'S SPILLOVER IS THAT TO COVER THE ENTERPRISE? AND THEN ON THE OTHER AREA WITHIN THE GENERAL GOOD AND ALL OF THAT MILLION DOLLAR ARE
SOMEWHERE YOU BRING A RETAIL TO THOSE. >> WELL WE JUST HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE SHERIFF AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT HE SAID EITHER WAY MY BUDGET HAS TO INCREASE FOR THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS WELL JUST KEEPING OUR SOLID WASTE EXACTLY AS IT WAS WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE BEHIND. WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THERE IS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. BUT WE WE CAN ASSUME THEY MAY BE IN THE 1 TO 2 PERCENT RANGE
. >> JUST SO JUST SO IT'S CLEAR OUR FINANCE OUT STAFFERS BEHIND ME IN THE ROOM HERE AND THEY'VE NODDED THEIR HEAD THAT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE MILL WOULD INCREASE TO THE POINT TO EQUALIZE THAT TO THAT TEN POINT TWO.
>> SO TO FOR COUNSEL. HOWEVER, SEAN'S INFORMATION THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE MILLION AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION I'D LIKE YOUR HAND UP. YEAH.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. I HAVE TO.
I THINK THEY'RE BOTH FOR GERARD ONE DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE SAVED OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVING BY CLOSING DOWN THOSE TWO STATIONS AND ALSO JUST SO WE CAN PREPARE. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH. AND FORGIVE ME IF YOU'VE GOT TO ANSWER HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO BUILD THE NEW STATIONS SO WE CAN START PREPARING THAT IS OVERALL. OPERATOR ARE SINNERS. I DON'T HAVE THAT BUT IT'S IN THE TO PLAY OR MILLION DOLLAR RANGE. OPERATOR TRAVELCENTERS AND WE HAD 11. SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR SO PER CENTER IS THE OFFSET OPERATION. SO WE'RE SPENDING UP TO FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THAT. AND THEN SECONDLY REPEAT THE SECOND QUESTION. I GET YOUR MODELING QUESTION AND YOU'RE AT THE NEW STATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SITE FOR. DO WE HAVE IDEA WHAT WE'RE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK TO COST US JUST A BUILD NOT CLAIMING LAND BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO PURCHASE IT AND WE COULD HAVE TO WE MIGHT ALREADY HAVE SO ON THE SMALLER BUILDING IN THE SMALLER FOR THESE VOTERS IN AN HOUR AND AND FOR THE LARGER THEREFORE IN THE 7 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE TO GO WITH THE BIGGER ONE WITH WHERE THINGS ARE GOING? YES. IF WE FIND A SITE IN A REASONABLE TIME PERIOD. YES. JEFF, IF WE HAD TROUBLE SIGNING THE AN ENABLER YOU ARE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS MODELING.
IF WE MOVE I THINK YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT LARGER THAN GIVING FINANCE THAT THEN THERE'S NO NEED. SMALL YES. GO STRAIGHT TO RIBAUT.
THANK YOU. MARK THE OTHER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ME OR NOT PAUL.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE TRACK OF THIS POSSIBLE SOLID WASTE IMPACT FEE IN OUR INTERACTIONS WITH TISSUE OR BIAS OVER THE OVER THE YEARS AND THEY'VE GIVEN US I DON'T I'M NOT SURE HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. HAVE THEY GIVEN US THEY REVISE HAVE THEY GIVEN US ANY GUIDANCE ON A SOLID WASTE IMPACT FEE OR AT LEAST AN OPINION ON THE FEASIBILITY OF IT AND WHAT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT LOOK LIKE?
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I MEAN WHERE ARE WE ARE WE JUST FROM STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO THERE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION THATWE CAN BUILD ON THE AREAS, YOU KNOW AND ANSWER. >> I THINK THIS STARTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FIELD AS WE'RE IN DEVELOPING THE OTHER IMPACT FEES EARLY IN THE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT THEY US ON THAT EFFORT BECAUSE WE WERE ENTERING INTO THIS ENTERPRISE FUNDS SO THAT WAY BECAUSE WE WERE WHAT JARED NEWER IN THAT ENTERPRISE WOULD TAKING ITS OWN CAPITAL IF YOU IF YOU ARE SORRY JARED IF YOU ALL RECALL THE IMPACT FEE YOU CAN'T DOUBLE DROPS YOU CAN'T CHARGE FOR THE SAME SERVICES THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS SO ONCE THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO THE STUDY ONLY USER FEE THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE TAX BILLS AND FUND SAW THE WASTE THAT WAY THEN WE ABANDONED THE NEED FOR THE APP WE ABANDONED THE STUDY
ON THE IMPACT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO BOTH. >> SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO PAY THE UNDERSTUDY THE UMPIRE FEE BUT THEY DID SOME ADDITIONAL WORK AND JERRY'S POINT ON THAT.
I THINK THEY EVEN ACTUALLY GOT DOWN TO SOME NUMBERS ON WHAT THE IMPACT FEE WOULD BE PER HOUSEHOLD FOR NEW GROWTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO RELATIVELY EASY IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PURSUE THAT AND THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A CREDIT THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT IMPACT FEE BACK FROM THE GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR JUST LIKE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER IMPACT FEES WE HAVE. BUT WE CAN WE CAN PICK THAT UP AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO GROW TO GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR CAPITAL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THE CITIES AND TOWNS ARE PARTICIPATING IN GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT ON THAT FEE. SO THAT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC AS WELL.
BUT IF COUNCIL DESIRES FOR US TO EXPLORE THAT IN MORE DETAIL WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO OR BIAS COLUMN AND FIND OUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THAT STUDY.
WELL IF WE TAKE USER FEE OF AS IF WE TAKE USER FEAR OFF THE TABLE AND I WOULD THINK WE'LL
BECOME A MORE VIABLE OPTION. >> YES IT RIGHT. YEAH I MEAN TO SPEAK AND PERSONALLY I'D LIKE THIS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FOLLOWED UP ON BECAUSE IT MAY BE AS YOU SAY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO AT LEAST COME UP WITH SOME CAPITAL MONEY WHICH RIGHT NOW WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE YET AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY. WHAT WE NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU OFF ON THE DAY IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT US TO HOLD THE MILL RATE AT 5 MEALS FORWARD AS A SOLID WASTE FEE AND IF THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT INCREASING THAT FOR SOLID WASTE EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOLD THE LINE ON THE OVERALL MILLAGE AND NOT SO THAT WOULD NOT RAISE TAXES. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR
THIS MORNING. >> YOU SEE IT SEEMS TO ME IF EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD TODAY IS IN FIVE MILLS ISN'T GOING TO EXACTLY DO IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'S LIKELY TO BE PROBABLY WON'T BE THE DELTA IN THERE. AND IF I UNDERSTOOD IT, JARED CORRECTLY THAT DELTA IS GOING TO CONTINUE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD THROUGH THE YEARS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE IF WE JUST SAID FIVE MILLS AND WE KNOW WE NEED LET'S SAY FIVE POINT FOUR I DON'T THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
IF WE NEED FIVE POINT FOUR THEN IT SHOULD BE FIVE POINT FOUR OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
BUT TO SAY IT'S 5 AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT LATER ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. I DON'T THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO SET THE MILL ONCE WE KNOW THE VALUE OF THE MILL TO GET THE MILL AT AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL TO AT LEAST THE OPERATING COSTS AND THEN LOOK AT AN IMPACT FEE FOR CAPITAL. THAT WOULD BE MY CAPSULE NUMBER OF LOSS.
COUNCIL MEMBER RODMAN HAS A QUESTION. YES, PROBABLY.
GO AHEAD. YEAH. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I THINK WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE ZEROED IN ON SOMETHING IN THE 10 TO 11 RANGE AND GIVEN THAT WE DIDN'T DO MUCH CAPITAL IN THE LAST BUDGET, I THINK THERE'S A STRONG CASE TO BE MADE FOR THE 11 BECAUSE THAT PICKS UP SOME OF THE SHORT TERM CAPITAL THAT WE MIGHT NEED. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, THE WISDOM OF COUNSEL AT THAT POINT WAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THE FISCAL 21 BUDGET AND THEN CALCULATE THAT THAT MILLAGE.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE LITERALLY CAN TAKE THE ELEVEN MILLION WHITNEY CAN TAKE WHATEVER IS THE MIDDLE VALUE IN THE CURRENT F Y TWENTY ONE MAKE THAT CALCULATION IS GOING TO COME OUT SOMEPLACE IN THE FIVE TO FIVE AND A HALF FIVE AND A HALF MILLS.
THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO THEN AMEND THE ORDINANCE THAT PUT IN PLACE THE ENTERPRISE ZONE AND THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT THAT LITERALLY GOING FORWARD IN PARALLEL WITH WHILE WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO IF WE WANT TO TWEAK THAT MILLAGE AT THAT POINT IN TIME I
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THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY DO IT. BUT ANYWAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK WE WILL HAVE LAUNCHED THE ENTERPRISE ZONE. IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO BECAUSE WE CAN BOTH LOOK AT IT MORE AS A BUSINESS AND I THINK IT CREATES TRANSPARENCY FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC.AND THEN AS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS COME ALONG, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A DECENT PAYBACK. SO THERE MAY BE A CASE WHERE YES, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME CAPITAL BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SAVINGS TO OFFSET THE DEBT SERVICE THAT GOES WITH IT.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE ELEVEN MILLION ELEVEN MILLION AND WHATEVER WHITNEY CALCULATES WOULD BE A NUMBER THAT IT'S A GOOD STARTING PLACE AS WE TWEAK THE
CURRENT ORDINANCE DRINK COMMENTS. >> COUNCILMAN RODNEY AND I MR HIRSCHHORN GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU MY THINKING CORRECTLY. THAT FIVE NOLS WOULD GET US CONSERVATIVELY TO TEN POINT TWO MILLION THE CLOSURE OF THE TWO STATIONS AND TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND WHICH IS FRONT OF THOUSANDS. THAT'S TEN POINT SIX MILLION.
WE'RE TRYING GETS OF 11 MILLION. SO REALLY OUR DELTA IS LIKELY
SOMEWHERE IN THE 400000 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR MY PIECE THERE. >> I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.
AND THEN THERE'S PROBABLY FINALLY PICKED UP A LITTLE SAVINGS IN THE DEKALB SYSTEM TO OVER AND ABOVE WAS IN THE BUDGET. SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT WE'LL BE REASONABLY CLOSE .
SO YES, IF THAT'S THE CASE YOU'D LIKE REALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO FIND ONE OR THOUSANDS MORE IN GENERAL FUND TO MAKE THIS TAX NEUTRAL AND I'VE SAID THIS OUT LOUD BUT THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL. AND I THINK THAT THAT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE TOLERABLE FOR THE PARLIAMENT FOR THEM FOR OF RAISING QUESTIONS JUST LIKE I AM.
WHY ARE DOING MY TAXES WHEN IN REALITY I WOULD PERSONALLY JUST CONSIDER THIS AN ACCOUNTING GEOGRAPHY NEW AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TELL MY CLIENTS. THIS WAS YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL BUSINESS THAT WE'RE DOING ACCOUNTING. SO AND IF THAT'S THE CASE I THINK THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE NOTHING ON THE RESURRECTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WILL. WE WILL MAKE THOSE THOUGH. WE'LL MAKE THOSE NOTATIONS AND WE WILL ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK THIS MORNING IN THE DIRECTIONS SO
CONTROVERSIAL. CUNNINGHAM GO AHEAD. >> YEAH, I THINK TO BE BACK IN CHRIS'S POINT, YOU KNOW HE IS IN A NUMBER OF SOME AROUND FOUR THOUSAND.
SO WE JUST GO AHEAD AND BE PROACTIVE AND SEE IF WE CAN MANEUVER THINGS AROUND TO GET SOME AROUND THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND JUST FOR SOME ROOM FOR ERROR.
AND THEN NUMBER OVER WE'RE OVER BUT JUST TO BE ABOVE IT JUST IN CASE YOU COME UP SHORT SOMEWHERE ELSE I THINK WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED THIS MORNING TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE MILLAGE AND GIVE YOU ALL SOMETHING THAT THAT WILL EQUATE TO BE A NEUTRAL A TAX NEUTRAL RESOLUTION TO THE ISSUE OF DEALING WITH SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE FROM VERY UP.
>> A VERY GOOD POINT. WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING . WE'LL MAKE SURE WE BUILD IN SOME BUFFER.
>> GREAT. VERY GOOD. ERIC, ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING? YEAH, WE ARE. RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MOVE INTO A COMMON CLASSIFICATION STUDY BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG ITEM. THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST IF NOT THE BIGGEST BUDGETARY ITEM IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
AND GOING FORWARD BECAUSE ONCE WE FUND IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP FUNDING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HIM FOLKS AT THE SAME RATE. SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO PINKY HARRIET. RIGHT NOW AND SHE'S GONNA COME UP AND GET THE BALL STARTED AND THEN SHE'S GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY, A MINUTE TRADER FOR FINANCE AND OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER MISS WHITNEY RICHLAND. SO COMING PINKY, GOOD MORNING
COUNCIL MEMBERS. >> BEFORE WE START WITH THE COMPANY CLASS STUDY, I WANTED TO PREPARE OR JUST GIVE YOU A BUDGET UPDATE AS INTO WHERE WE STAND CURRENTLY.
SINCE OUR LAST WORKSHOP, COUPLE OF ITEMS TO NOTE WE HAVE STARTED CONSOLIDATING A LOT OF OUR LINE ITEMS. LAST TIME I TALKED ABOUT TWENTY ONE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE CONSOLIDATED WHEN WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE ARE NOW WORKING ON CONSOLIDATING LINE ITEMS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND PUT THEM IN THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS.
AND I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND THE KING OF 800 IS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT? SO WE'VE CONSOLIDATED 800 LINE ITEMS AS WELL. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT REALLOCATING SOME OF OUR CAPITAL REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO AND POTENTIALLY
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UTILIZING SOME OF THE NPA FUNDS THAT MR. GREENWAY MENTIONED EARLIER.AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN. >> SO THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP AND WE HAVE STARTED MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN TERMS OF REDUCING AND TRIMMING SOME OF OUR LINE ITEMS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND KIND OF GET THE GOAL THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT COMP AND CLASS.
AND TO DATE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE AND AND REALIZE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AND WE'RE GOING. AND AS YOU RECALL AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE WERE AT ABOUT AN 18 MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. WE.
TODAY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN TO ROUGHLY 13 MILLION DOLLARS AND WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS WITH POSSIBLY UTILIZING OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUND WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 500000 THOUSAND THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND ALSO RE REEVALUATING THE TREASURER'S CREDIT CARD FEES COULD REDUCE THIS ANOTHER ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE ARE SLOWLY MAKING HEADWAY TO GET THIS INCREASED NUMBER DOWN SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT COMPING CLASS AND AS COUNCILMAN ROBIN SAID THE OTHER DAY, WE NEED TO TRY TO OPERATE MORE LEAN AND PAIR OF PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH WHETHER THE GENERAL FUND.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.
>> WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO LET WHITNEY TOUCH ON OUR COMPING CLASS IMPLEMENTATION IN
THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
I'VE ASKED SARAH IF SHE WOULD SHARE THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT I SHOWED TO YOU GUYS DURING THE BUDGET RETREAT. AND I WILL COMPLETELY REHASH THAT.
BUT JUST TO KIND OF GET US BACK IN THAT FRAME OF MIND. WE HIRED A CONSULTANT BY THE NAME OF EVERGREEN TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE POSITIONS COUNTYWIDE, SEE WHETHER OR NOT BASED UPON THE TYPES OF ROLES THAT THOSE POSITIONS REQUIRE THE SKILL SETS THAT ARE REQUIRED, EDUCATION LEVELS, THE PHYSICAL DEMANDS OF THE JOB SHIFT WORK, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS TO TAKE A LOOK IN TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE POSITIONS ARE APPROPRIATELY CLASSIFIED IN TERMS OF A PAY BAND THEY COMPARED US TO SEVERAL OF OUR PEERS THAT WERE COUNTIES, CITIES, TOWNS AND OTHERS. SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD MIX OF WHO WE WERE MATCHED AGAINST AND THEN BASED UPON THERE'S SURVEY OR THEIR STUDY THEY RECOMMENDED TO US PARTICULAR PAY BANDS OR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE FOR EACH OF OUR POSITIONS COUNTYWIDE. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT AND JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE THERE THAT SECTION THERE ARE THE MINIMUM MIDPOINT AND MAXIMUM WE ARE ON AVERAGE ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF TO EIGHT PERCENT LESS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE PAYING OUR EMPLOYEES IN THAT STRAIGHT WAGES. THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, RETIREMENT OR ANY OF THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE PROVIDE FOR
OUR EMPLOYEES. >> RIBAUT YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT I MENTIONED AT OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE MERIT BASED PAY RAISES, LONGEVITY INCREASES, HOLIDAY PAY OR EVEN SHIFT TO SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL PAY THAT COULD CAUSE SLIGHT DEVIATIONS IN COMPENSATION STRUCTURE WHEN COMPARED TO OUR PEERS AT THE BOTTOM YOU WOULD. YOU'LL SEE OUR BIGGEST TAKEAWAY WAS THAT THE STUDY PROVIDED FOR US A REALLY GREAT FOUNDATION UPON WHICH WE CAN ANALYZE OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE BUT THAT WE TRULY NEEDED TO DO KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IN LIGHT OF ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN CONCERT WITH OUR NEW H.R.
DIRECTOR THAT'S COMING ON NEXT WEEK AND WORK TOWARD IMPLEMENTING A HOLISTIC
STRUCTURE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE FISCAL 22 BUDGET. >> YOU'LL ALSO SEE THERE THAT I PROVIDED EMPLOYEES COULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS PAY PLAN AND AN APPROXIMATE COST FOR EACH
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OF OUR OPTIONS AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION. AND JUST TO REMIND YOU WHAT THOSE THREE APPROACHES ARE, THE FIRST IS TO BRING EVERYONE TO THE MINIMUM.SO LET'S JUST SAY A MARKET RATE FOR A PARTICULAR POSITION IS THAT YOU KNOW, FIFTEEN DOLLARS AN HOUR. WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY MAKING LESS THAN THAT. THE VERY FIRST APPROACH WOULD SIMPLY BE TO TAKE ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER MARKET RIGHT. AND BRING THEM TO THE MINIMUM OF THEIR MARKET SO THAT WE ARE AT LEAST EQUAL TO OUR PEERS AND OUR COMPETITIVE.
THE SECOND OPTION IS TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE MIDPOINT OF THEIR PAY RANGE AND THAT AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ON DOESN'T JUST COVER YOUR ENTRY LEVEL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BRINGING TO THE MINIMUM THAT COVERS OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE A BIT OF A LONGER TENURE HERE.
>> THEY HAVE THEY'VE LEARNED THEIR SKILL SETS. THEY ARE PROFICIENT AT WHAT THEY DO. THEY SHOULD NO LONGER BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THEIR PAY AND THEY SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE PROBABLY AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PAY RANGE.
AND THE VERY LAST APPROACH WOULD BE TO IMPACT THE LARGEST EMPLOYEES APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED FORTY FIVE. AND THAT APPROACH TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THEY WOULD CALL COMPRESSION. AND IN A NUTSHELL THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS NEW IN THEIR CAREER AND SOMEONE THAT YOU HAVE A SEASONED IN RATHER THAN BEING RANGE THERE IN THEIR COMPENSATION THEY ARE COMPRESSED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATION'S GOAL AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL THIS MORNING OUR HOPE AND PLAN AND DESIRE IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THIS COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY SO THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY PAY OUR EMPLOYEES WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. AND SO OF COURSE THAT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PAY RANGE I HAVE PROVIDED THERE OR EXCUSE NOT THE PAY RANGE BUT THE BUDGETARY IMPACT THAT I PROVIDED IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ABOUT FOUR POINT NINE AND SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION AND I'LL REMIND YOU THE REASON FOR THAT ABOUT ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR DELTA IS BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWNS WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE CHANGES IN THEIR INSURANCE SELECTIONS OR ANY OF THEIR BENEFITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE HAVE A RANGE THERE I THINK ON THE ON THE HIGH END.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE HOPING FOR THIS MORNING IS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD PROVIDE FOR US YOUR INPUT IN YOUR PREFERENCE ON WHICH OF THESE THREE STRUCTURES THAT WE IMPLEMENT IN FISCAL 22 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT KNOWING THAT ON THE ADMINISTRATORS LEVEL WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK TOWARDS THE
FULL FULL STUDY TO MINIMIZE DECOMPRESSION. >> THE CAVEAT THERE BEING THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT A HALF YEAR PLAN IN FISCAL 22. SO RATHER THAN STARTING JULY 1ST WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL THE FIRST FULL PAY PERIOD IN JANUARY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS ESSENTIALLY IT TAKES HALF OF THAT BUDGETARY IMPACT OFF THE TABLE IN THE FIRST YEAR. SO IF WE DID THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THAT AROUND 5 TO SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION DOWN SOMEWHERE MORE THAN NEIGHBORHOOD OF AROUND 3 MILLION MAYBE THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR RANGE. AND THE REASON WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT A IT'S IT'S EASIER TO BUDGET IN THE FIRST YEAR. RIGHT.
B IT GIVES OUR EMPLOYEES SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE SORT OF DANGLED LIKE A CARROT AND SAY HEY, WE'RE CONSIDERING DOING THIS.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH. SO WE WANT TO DEMONSTRATE OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND THEN SO THE IMPACT THERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. YOU'VE JUST HEARD PINKIE TALK ABOUT US KIND OF SHAVING DOWN OUR BUDGET AND TRYING TO OPERATE ON A MORE LEAN BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
RIGHT. SO THAT WE CAN INSTEAD OF , YOU KNOW, SPENDING MONEY ON SUPPLIES AND THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE AWAY AND TAKE OFF THE PLATE BECAUSE WE CAN UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR ROLES. WELL, THAT A REDUCTION IN SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS BUT THEN HOLD OUR EMPLOYEES ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING MORE EFFICIENT, STEWARDING THE COUNTY'S RESOURCES THAT COMPENSATING THEM A LITTLE EXTRA FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND SO IN THE FIRST YEAR OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE FIND IT FOR THE HALF YEAR AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK OUR BUDGET DOWN. WE'RE RIGHT NOW OF THE OPINION AND BELIEF THAT THERE WOULD BE NO MIDDLE IMPACT IN THE FIRST YEAR. WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TO REDUCE THE FLUFF AS SOME MIGHT CALL IT, SO THAT WE CAN FIND THIS FIRST YEAR, HALF YEAR WITH ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT ON THE MILL RATE IN THE SECOND YEAR DEPENDING UPON THE VALUE
OF THE MILL. >> AS WE ALL KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN IN AN INCREASING MARKET ENVIRONMENT FOR THE PAST YEAR. AT SOME POINT THAT BUBBLE PROBABLY WILL BURST BUT I THINK THAT IT HITS OUR AREA A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN IT HAS OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A STRONG MILITARY PRESENCE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEING SUCH A
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STABLE PROVIDER EVEN IF THE ECONOMY STARTS TO DOWNTURN AND CYCLICALLY WE'RE DUE FOR A RECESSION IN THE COMING YEARS. I DON'T THINK THAT OUR AREA WOULD FEEL IT AS STRONGLY AS OTHERS FIRST. SO WE ARE THINKING THAT IN FISCAL 23 AND 24 AND BEYOND, EVEN IF THE VALUE OF SLIGHTLY DECREASES THAT WITH THE PRACTICES WE'RE EMPLOYING NOW WITH MORE EFFICIENT BUDGETING AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS AND I WORKFORCE THAT IS COMPETENT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS IN AND HAVE VERY LITTLE IF NO IMPACT OVERALL ON OUR MILLRATE. >> RIGHT NOW AS I KNOW WE'VE TALKED TO THIS MORNING THAT OUR VALUE OF A MILL IS STILL UNDETERMINED. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE CAN SAFELY ASSUME THAT IT WILL NOT DECREASE THIS YEAR BASED UPON THE MARKET ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN CURRENTLY. AND IF LAST YEAR IT WAS AROUND SCUSE.
>> IF LAST YEAR IT WAS AROUND THE 2 MILLION DOLLAR MARK JUST GIVEN NORMAL INFLATION AND CPI AROUND ONE POINT SEVEN, I THINK THAT WE COULD SAFELY ASSUME THAT OUR MILL VALUE WOULD LIKELY INCREASE SOMEWHERE MAYBE EVEN CONSERVATIVELY AROUND THE ONE AND A HALF PERCENT RANGE.
>> SO THOSE ARE QUESTIONS TO YOU THIS MORNING WHICH APPROACH WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO TAKE AND WHAT AS FAR AS TIMING WHAT IS YOUR DESIRE THERE AND WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS CAN WE ANSWER?
>> I SEE COUNCILMAN HIRSCHHORN HAS A QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY WHICH I GUESS WAS THE THEME OF THE MORNING. OKAY. BUT NOT NUMBER ONE.
JUST WHERE WE ARE VERY BROADLY NOT SPEAKING TO THE COUNTY VERY BROADLY ECONOMICALLY IN THE SITUATION WITH THE LABOR FORCE WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY TIGHT AND WE KNOW YOU'VE SEEN A LOT
OF UPWARD MOVEMENT IN PAY RATES. >> SHE'S VERY, VERY BROADLY.
WILL THIS. HOW FAR WILL THIS GO MEANINGFULLY SOLVING THAT FOR THE NEAR TERM? OR CAN WE STILL EXPECT FOR THAT WAGE INFLATION TO BE A PROBLEM FOR US? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE IN THE SECOND ONE IS THE DELTA BETWEEN THE MIDPOINT AND DECOMPRESSION SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR TO SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE EMPLOYEES. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. TWENTY FIVE EMPLOYEES WHAT PAY
BAND ARE THEY IN? >> YES. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.
OKAY. >> I'LL TAKE A QUESTION TO FIRST.
I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT PAYMENT SINCE I DON'T HAVE ALL THAT DETAIL IN FRONT OF ME.
THERE ARE CLOSE TO A THOUSAND OR SO EMPLOYEES IN THAT STUDY AROUND EIGHT HUNDRED FORTY FIVE I THINK WAS THE MAX IMPACT. SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND RESPOND.
YOU AND I HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON THE FIRST QUESTION. THE INTENT OF THIS STUDY IS TO ACCOMPLISH A COUPLE OF THINGS RIGHT. WE WANT TO BECOME COMPETITIVE.
>> WE HAVE VACANCY RATES THAT THE COUNTY HAS SEEN SOME OF THEM HAVE LASTED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME RECRUITING AND RETENTION OF COURSE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE TIME OF COVERED HAS BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUSE RATHER THAN KIND OF WEATHERING THE STORM, SOME HAVE JUST DECIDED HEY, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RETIRE.
AND SO WHEN THOSE VACANCIES ARE CREATED BECAUSE OUR MARKET RATES ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND WE'RE LESS COMPETITIVE, WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME BACKFILLING THOSE POSITIONS.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT TO MAKE OURSELVES SO ATTRACTIVE AS AN EMPLOYER NOT JUST STRAIGHT SALARIES BUT ALSO THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE OFFER. THE COUNTY HAS INCREDIBLE BENEFITS AS FAR AS RETIREMENT AND HEALTH INSURANCE GOES PAID TIME OFF.
ALL OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES.
SO WE WANT TO AT LEAST IMPLEMENT AND MAKE OURSELVES AN ATTRACTIVE EMPLOYER AND THAT IS
WHAT WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH IF WE TOOK THE VERY FIRST APPROACH. >> SO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, IF WE WERE TO DO ANYTHING ABOVE THE FIRST APPROACH EITHER THE MIDPOINT OR THE FULL SHEBANG FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM WE WOULD MAKE OURSELVES EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE AS AN EMPLOYER.
AND WHAT THE HOPE IS HERE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A HEDGE FOR OURSELF FOR A FEW YEARS AT SOME POINT YOU KNOW IF THE IF INFLATION GROWTH CONTINUES THE WAY THAT IT HAS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE SAW SOME OF THAT BACK IN OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH REGARD PROCUREMENT CODE AT SOME POINT WE'LL NEED TO REEVALUATE OF COURSE.
>> BUT OUR PLAN HERE IS TO AS THERE ARE INFLATIONARY GROWTH, AS THERE IS INFLATIONARY GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT OTHER ANOTHER WAY TO COMPENSATE OUR EMPLOYEES TO KEEP PACE WITH THAT WHETHER IT COMES IN THE FORM OF AN ACROSS THE BOARD COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT OR WHETHER IT COMES IN THE COST OF ART IN THE FORM OF MERIT BASED PAY INCREASE
BASED UPON EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE. >> THE PLAN WOULD BE TO KEEP PACE WITH MARKET EACH YEAR SO THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING THE SAME ISSUE AND HAVING TO DO ANOTHER COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY THREE AND FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION BUT IF I DID NOT LET ME KNOW. I THINK SO.
>> IS IT IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT IF WE DO THIS NOW AND IT'S DAWN YOU'RE NOT STILL GOING TO BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL MARKET AS THE OVERALL MARKET IS KEEPING ME
CRAZY? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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SURE. >> OKAY. COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE TO LEAVE IN A FEW MINUTES BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. A LOT OF MY CLIENTS IN MY CONSULTANCY ARE USE ITEMS LIKE STEEL AND AND LUMBER PRODUCTS AND I CAN TELL YOU IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS STEEL HAS DOUBLED WOOD PRODUCTS. LUMBER HAS GONE UP MORE THAN 100 PERCENT.
SO THIS IS GOING TO WORK ITS WAY DOWN PRETTY QUICKLY TO YOU AND ME AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. I BOUGHT GRAPEFRUIT JUICE YESTERDAY AND I NOTICED QUICKLY WENT FROM THREE DOLLARS TO FOUR DOLLARS AND TWENTY FIVE CENTS OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN IT'S THERE INFLATION IS THERE WHETHER IT SHOWS UP IN THE CPI YET OR NOT, IT'S THERE.
SO I WANTED TO I WOULD SUPPORT DOING WHATEVER WE CAN ON THE HIGH END TO BRING THOSE FOLKS UP TO THE TO THE POINT THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. SO WE SUPPORT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT ANYONE ELSE? YES, YES. GO AHEAD AND JUST REMEMBER THIS IS NOT MY WORKSHOP. WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON ANYTHING BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE OUR OPINIONS TO HELP THE STAFF AND WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADING. SO YES. WAS THAT COUNCILMAN GLOVER WAS THAT YOU? GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. SO I AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT LIKE PAUL IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I LIKE YOUR STRATEGY SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU THAT GOING IN HALF A YEAR AND WE'LL DO WITH THE OTHER HALF THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
SO I AM TOTAL SUPPORT EVEN LIKE I THINK USE IT WORD TO TERM COMPRESS IT SETS THE RIGHT WORDS LIKE LIKE HOW YOU HANDLE KNOWING THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE DON'T VALUE OUR LONGEVITY EMPLOYEES AND BECAUSE THE SALARY HAS BEEN MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION UPWARD MOBILITY.
WE HAVE NOT COMPENSATED OUR EMPLOYEES WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD TIME.
WE JUST BRING PEOPLE IN AT THE SAME LEVEL AND THAT'S REALLY HURTING MORALE.
I LIKE HOW YOU'RE ADDRESSING THAT SO THAT PROBLEM SHOULD BE THERE IN THE FUTURE.
SO I JUST WANT TO SEE THANK YOU AND I DO SUPPORT YOU'LL ADD RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HOWARD. GO AHEAD. I'VE BEEN WAITING SIX YEARS.
I THINK THE MERIT BASED PLAN SORT OF I'D LOVE IT. I GOING TO BE GREAT AND TO HELP US IN RETAINING AND KEEPING THE EMPLOYEES PAST THEIR RETIREMENT AGE BECAUSE I CAN THEY'LL FEEL LIKE THEY ARE VALUED AND THEY'LL KEEP WORKING AS IN THIS WILL GET US THERE.
AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THE FULL FULL AMOUNT THANKING. LIKEWISE I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN AND SAY YES, THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING THAT YOU ARE POSTING.
>> YOU KNOW YOU'RE SETTING THE BAR HIGHER. WE WANT TO ATTRACT THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST AND WE WANT TO BE FAIRLY THE PEOPLE WE'RE COMPETING AGAIN ARE LOOKING AT US AND SAYING HOW CAN WE STAY AHEAD OF THEM? SO THIS IS VERY GOOD THING.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. >> COUNCILMAN ROBIN HAS A QUESTION HERE.
YEAH, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. FIRST, DOES THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE? DOES THAT LOOK PURELY AT SALARIES OR IS THAT ALSO LOOKING AT BENEFITS AS FROM OUR FULL COMPENSATION BASIS? SO THEY'RE THEIR STUDY OF THE SCOPE OF THEIR WORK ONLY CONSIDERED THE WAGE PIECE. OKAY.
THE FIGURES I PROVIDED TO YOU DID INCLUDE ALL THE FRINGE BENEFITS IN PAYROLL TAX SO THAT
IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE. FULL IMPLEMENTATION TO COST US. >> I DO THINK SOME LOOK AT BENEFITS SAME TIME IT'LL MAKE SOME SENSE. MY SENSE OF THIS IS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IT IN TWO PIECES. IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE'VE GONE TO THE EFFORT TO HAVE A STUDY IT GIVES A GENERAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE'RE UNDERPAYING IT SEEMS TO ME WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH APPROVING OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED THAT THIS STUDY WHEN IT'S READY TO BE APPROVED.
THEN THE SECOND PIECE OF WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS. MY SENSE IS I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE TAX NEUTRAL. WE CAN ABSORB SOME OF THIS.
SO MY WITHIN THAT AND SO IT GETS DOWN TO HOW DO WE DO THE IMPLEMENTATION? AND SO I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE THE THE PROCESS.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PICK ANY ONE OF THE THREE TODAY BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL BECOME MORE OBVIOUS AS WE GO FORWARD. AND LASTLY I WOULD SAY I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN MERIT AND PUSHING THE DOLLARS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PERFORMING THE BEST BECAUSE THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS PUSH THE DOLLARS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDERPERFORMING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO STAY ANYWAY AND THEN YOU LOSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER PERFORMING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PAYING THEM ENOUGH. BUT I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. BUT WHEN WOULD BE THE TIMING OF US APPROVING THIS STUDY? IS THAT IN HAND AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE I THINK MAYBE ONE MORE WEEK.>> I WISH I HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM H.R. HERE TO CONFIRM THAT THE LAST COMMUNICATION CONVEYED TO ME WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT IN A WEEK, OK? AND I KNOW OUR PROCEDURES I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE APPROVE THAT OR THAT'S UP TO ERIC.
BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE A LOGICAL FIRST STEP FOR US TO BUY INTO THAT.
WE AGREE WITH THIS STUDY AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT ARE FROM A PAY SCALE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO GET THERE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.
THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE WITH LESLIE? WHITNEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK IT'S OVERALL THAT WE AS YOU HEAR MIDDLE OF YEAR IN MYSELF INCLUDED IS WE ARE ALL FOR THIS WE'D LIKE THIS MOVE MOVE FORWARD AS MUCH AS WE CAN. HOWEVER, I NOW QUOTE ONE OF COUNCILMAN MEMBER SHAWN'S FAMOUS I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR IT IS IS OK, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING IS IS WE'RE FOR HOW DO WE MAKE THE MONEY WORK? AND THEN OF COURSE WE START TALKING TRYING TO BE TAX NEUTRAL WITHOUT RAISING TAXES ON THE COUNTY TO DO IT. SO WE'LL SEE HOW REALLY GOOD YOU ARE. WE. WE DO THIS BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. YOU MAKE THINGS VERY, VERY SENSIBLE AND MAKE IT MAKE SENSE FOR A LOT OF ACCOUNTING THINGS THAT USUALLY ARE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE WE LET YOU GO, MR. LAWSON STIMULUS IF YOU'LL GIVE ADMITTED TO TAKE A COMMENT THAT HAS. THANK YOU, SIR. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MARY TATE IN CONCEPT. I BELIEVE THAT YOU REWARD PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE. SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT.
I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION HIM BEING THAT THIS IS THE STATE.
I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN CALL THE COUNTY BUT THE STATE IS A GOOD OLE BOY SYSTEM.
MERIT PAY HAS NOT BEEN FAVORABLE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO MAKE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO WITH MARRIAGE THAT REDUNDANCY IS THERE SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S GETTING THERE IS WORTHY OF THAT MERAPI AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT GETTING IT.
DAVE DOCUMENTED WHY DID THAT IDIOT BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS IS WHERE I AM AND YOU KNOW JUST.
I'M LATE. I'M DEALING WITH HISTORY. SOUTH CAROLINA IS A GOOD OLE BOY SYSTEM. AND IF YOU'RE GOOD TO ME, I'LL TAKE CARE.
YOU'RE NOT GOOD TO ME. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU PERFORM, HOW YOU PERFORM.
I'M NOT GOING TO REWARD YOU. JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. AND MR. ABORIGINAL IN YOUR HEAD.
THANK YOU. >> I'M A COMMENT I SUPPOSE LATER.
I MEAN IT AT THIS POINT EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS VERY RATIONAL AND IT SEEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A GOOD PLACE AS FAR AS NOT NEEDING TO RAISE TAXES BUT ALSO GETTING MONEY FOR THE COUNTY SIMULTANEOUSLY. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING AND THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT THING. PART OF THE QUESTION THAT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO ASK LATER. SO AGAIN WHEN TO PLANT THE SEED YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING A HALF YEAR OF THIS PAY INCREASE AND IT'S GONNA BE BASICALLY BUDGET NEUTRAL FOR THIS YEAR.
AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH SOLID WASTE? A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS ACROSS THE COUNTY. YEAH, IT'S COVERED THIS BUDGET YEAR.
BUT WHEN WE THINK BEYOND THAT NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR THEREAFTER, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO? ARE WE FORCING OURSELVES A CORNER WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME MUCH HARDER DECISIONS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TAX INCREASES DOWN THE LINE? I MEAN OVER TIME, YES, TAXES ARE GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE HAVE INFLATION LIKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT HOW BIG IS THAT PROBLEM GOING TO BE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE CREATING FOR OURSELVES OR MAYBE WE'RE NOT? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POSE LATER. AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO PLANT
THAT SEED. >> GOOD POINT. THANK YOU, CHRIS.
ANYBODY ELSE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL DAY? WE'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM
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EVERYONE. WE HAVE A DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE.I THINK ANYBODY WHO HAS LISTENED IN ON THIS SEE THAT WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US AND FOR OUR TAXPAYERS TO ENSURE THAT
THEY'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. >> AND I AGREE I THINK THE WHOLE DAY HAS BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEIR COOPERATION AND EVERYTHING WE'RE GETTING FROM THEM AND THEN THE ACTUAL SOLID WASTE AND HOW THEY END UP WITH THIS MISS RICHLAND, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE WE WE
LET YOU GO OR ORDER? >> THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING .
ERIC. WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GRANT OR BRING
FORWARD TO US? THOSE ARE YOUR NEXT WORKSHOP. >> YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT SO THAT WE CAN GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. GET YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
WE WILL GET THAT OUT TO YOU IN ADVANCE OF THE WORKSHOPS SO THAT YOU ALL CAN REVIEW HAVING QUESTIONS FOR IT SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE ADOPTION PROCESS HERE IN MAY SAID WE'RE DONE.
ON JUNE 30TH. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL.
I THINK WE NOW ARE OFFICIALLY AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING
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