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[Call to Order]
EVERYBODY.FIRST OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE ARE HAVING THIS MEETING HYBRID CONFERENCING AS BEING A STRENGTH CHANNEL AND AS IS OUR CUSTOM, LET US GO AHEAD AND JUST STAND FOR THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
UM, MR. SMITH, YOU'RE JOINING US B, IS THAT CORRECT? GREAT.
SO AT THIS TIME WE MADE, UM, A MOTION
[Approval of Agenda]
TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.UM, MR. SMITH, CAN YOU STEP IN MR. SMITH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[Approval of the March 10, 2021 Committee Meeting Minutes]
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 10, 2021 COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.I HAVE A VALUE FOR THAT, PLEASE.
MR. SMITH MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND BAG MISSPOKE, RIGHT? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA
[Discussion on the feasibility of a Compensation Study]
IS DISCUSSION HOW THE FEASIBILITY OF A COMPENSATION STUDY, MS. WALTONAND I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE SAYING WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND IT REALLY, WE CAN'T HEAR.
I'LL ASK MY SMALL, UH, SPEAK UP OR EVEN THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? MRS. SMITH? OKAY.
I JUST, UM, SHARE WITH THE BOARD THAT AFTER MY EMAIL, THIS MORNING TO ALL STAFF LETTING THEM KNOW WHEN THEY CAN EXPECT FOR THEIR, UH, GRACIOUS, UM, CONTRIBUTION FROM THE BOARD.
AND I GOT LOTS OF RESPONSES SAYING THAT THE EMPLOYEE REALLY DEALT APPRECIATE IT, OR THEY WERE VERY THANKFUL.
SO WE WANT TO GET STARTED BECAUSE I KNOW A SALARY STUDY CAN BE VERY TIME CONSUMING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT AS SUCCINCT AS WE POSSIBLE CAN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THREE ARROGANCE.
FIRST IS WHY DO YOU NEED TO CONDUCT A SALARY AND COMPENSATION STUDY IS REAL WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THE DISTRICT, ANY SALARIES THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND THEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM HR, THE HR, AND THEN WE MIGHT, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY GET TO THIS, BUT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, A RETENTION, UM, BONUS THAT DEALS WITH SALARY THAT COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO START OFF TALKING TO YOU ABOUT WHY EMPLOYEES, ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO DO THE SOUTH ORGANIZATIONS, ANY ORGANIZATIONS, EDUCATION, BUSINESS.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, NEEDS TO MAINTAIN A FAIR AND EQUAL SALARY STRUCTURE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT DRIVES ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT'S HOW YOU PAINT PEOPLE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THAT SALARY STRUCTURE IN PLACE.
SO WE SHOULD CONDUCT INTERVIEW EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
OUR LAST STUDY WAS DONE IN 2014 AND IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2015.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ALREADY SIX YEARS BEHIND, UH, OR THREE YEARS BEHIND.
IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG TO DO THAT, COMPENSATION ORGANIZATIONS RUN THE RISK OF SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY
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AND EMPLOYEES, MORE MONEY, LESS MONEY THAN THEY SHOULD EARN.AND IT COULD PUT THE ORGANIZATION AT RISK IN TERMS OF ALL THE BUDGETING AND REALLY, UM, NOT MANAGING FUNDS CORRECTLY.
SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT MOST, UM, INDUSTRY HR DIRECTORS DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE ORGANIZATION IS BETWEEN 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
SO THAT IF YOU NEED TO ADJUST THAT.
SO UNDER ALL OF THIS, WHEN YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO DO SALARY STUDY, YOU MUST HAVE IN MIND, WHAT IS YOUR GOAL AS AN OWNER? WHAT YOUR GOALS NEED TO BE TIED INTO YOURSELF? AND I KNOW WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT IT CAN AFFORD IT.
CAN WE BORROW THE MONEY? THAT MIGHT BE SECONDARY, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHERE ARE YOUR GOALS? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE? HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR EMPLOYEES LOOKING AT YOU? HOW DO YOU WANT TO TREAT YOUR, SO THAT SHOULD BE THE ONLINE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO A COMPENSATION STATE.
SO I'VE BEEN IN THE DISTRICT OR LONGER THAN I HERE, BUT WE'VE HAD TWO SALARY STUDIES, ONE IN 2006.
AND THAT WAS AN INTERNAL SALARIES, A STUDY DONE BY EMPLOYEES OF HR.
SO THERE WAS NO, UM, UH, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY NO ASSET MOVER AT ORGANIZATION TO SEE WHERE WE ACTUALLY WERE, WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS DONE IN HOUSE, UM, A LOT OF INEQUITIES BECAUSE IT'S JUST MORE NATURE.
PEOPLE LOOKING AT POSITIONS, THEY LOOK AT WHERE THEY LIVE, WHO THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO GET RAISED.
SO WE KEPT THE FIGHT VERY HARD TO STAY WITH NAT AND I'LL LAST HOURS.
THEY CAN REMEMBER EVERY POSITION WE HAD.
THEY DID A SURVEY OF EVERY MEMBER IN THOSE POSITIONS TO DETERMINE THEY'RE ACTUALLY DO THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH A COMPENSATION BASED ON USER EXPERIENCE AND JOB RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COSTS US ABOUT $40,000.
I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 35,000.
WE IMPLEMENTED IT 890 POSITIONS AND IT COST US ABOUT 900,000.
THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THAT WAS WHAT THE COMPANY RECOMMENDED.
WE ALTERED BECAUSE MONEY WASN'T THERE COULDN'T FIND MONEY.
DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY.
AND THEN WE HAD TO PUT IN PLACE, THEY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS INTERNAL STRUCTURES SO THAT WE COULD MANAGE CALCULATIONS SO WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THE INTERNAL INEQUITIES THAT WE HAD.
WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THE SUBJECTIVITY.
AND WE HIRED BASED ON POSITION BASED ON THE NEED, NOT THE PERSON WHO POSITION.
DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALARY STUDY? I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THAT WHILE WE MAY WAIT.
THE MORE COSTUME MEANT AND ELISE LEAST IS GOING TO BE FOR US TO WATCH.
UM, HONESTLY, WHEN WE WERE TOLD WE WERE ALL GONNA PAY $800,000, BUT IT'S HAPPENING THAT DAY TWO 15, WE HAD HR BECAUSE WE FIGURED IT WAS GOING TO BE AT LEAST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE WEREN'T.
WE HADN'T DONE ONE, UH, 10 YEARS AND WE HAD A LOT OF INEQUITIES WHERE, UM, MANAGERS WERE MAKING ARBITRARY DECISIONS.
I THINK I WANT TO GIVE HER A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, GIVE THIS PERSON ONE LAST.
SO WHEN THEY CAME AND MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, NO STRUCTURE TO PAUL.
SO WE WORKED REALLY HARD SINCE YOU'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH IS FOLLOWED STRUCTURE.
WE CALCULATE ALL THE EMPLOYEES USING THE SAME FORM.
AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO WHEN WE HIRE, WELL, HE STOPPED BEFORE HE STOPPED TALKING.
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WRITING OR, UH, THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING TODAY, UH, FROM HIM, FROM THERE, FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT? NO, NO, MR. SMITH, THIS IS REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION.WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING, SO THERE'S NO EMOTION.
YOU GOT NOTHING COMING OUT OF THIS THEN.
NO, THEY ALL I KNOW SHOULD HAVE JACK MIKE TO BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD, BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING DISCUSSION.
WELL, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH FRIDGES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S BETTER TO SEE SOME OF THIS STUFF, UM, WITHIN WRITING ALL OVER THE PRESENTATION FORM, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE CONCRETE.
SO THEREFORE EVEN IF SOMEONE NOT MISS SOME OF IT, THEN THEY COULD ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THE INFORMATION WITHIN IT, WITHIN A POWERPOINT FORM OF SOMETHING.
I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE TODAY, UH, WHEN HR COME FORTH, THEY STOPPED BRINGING THINGS BEFORE IN WRITING.
I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
UM, YEAH, EVERY, UH, EVERY NEW HIRE THAT WE RECEIVE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE, UH, WE EVALUATE THEIR APPLICATION AND THEIR RESUME, UH, REGARDING THEIR EXPERIENCE.
WE, UH, WE PUT THAT INFORMATION ON A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS CREATED ON THE 2015, 2014, 2015 SALARY STUDY.
AND WE LOOKED AT THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT IS THE SAME TYPE OF EXPERIENCE, OR IT MAY BE SIMILAR TO THE JOB.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A WAY THAT EITHER, IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIKE A JOB TO GET A FULL POINT, IF IT'S SIMILAR TO THE POSITION, NOW WE'LL GIVE THEM HALF CREDIT FOR THAT EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME TIME, THERE'S STILL SOME INTANGIBLES THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT, BUT THAT EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
AND THEN WE DID A REPLY, THE, UH, THE SALARY SCHEDULE THE NUMBERS FOR THE HOURLY RATE.
IT COMES UP WITH A, THE CALCULATED HOURLY RATES FOR THAT PERSON TO BEGIN AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND WE GENERATE THEIR ANNUAL SALARY BASED OFF THE SALARY, HOURLY RATE, BASED OFF THE NUMBER OF HOURS, THEY WORK A NUMBER OF DAYS FOR THAT POSITION AND TRY TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE, THE, UH, HISTORY, UH, LIKE, SO THERE'S NO INEQUITIES IN ONE, ONE PERSON BEING HIRED FOR THE SAME JOB VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PERSON HIRED WAS THE SAME, SAME TYPE OF EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
UM, BUT SINCE THE SALARY STUDY, WE HAVE ONE PROCESS BEFORE THAT THERE MAY, OR THERE WERE PROBABLY TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS DOING, UM, SALARY CALCULATIONS.
UM, AND IT WAS WAY THAT, AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT DIFFERENTLY SINCE 2015 IS, HAS BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY SOLID.
UM, SO YOU SAID THAT THE STUDY ITSELF COSTS $40,000.
I SAID, AND THEN THE 980,000, YOU MENTIONED FOR THE 890 POSITION THAT REPRESENTS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAD TO PUT BACK INTO THE CAGE.
AND ONE OF THE, TELL HER THINGS ABOUT THAT STUDY WAS SOME PEOPLE GOT VERY LITTLE RAISES AND SOME PEOPLE GOT AS MUCH AS $9,000.
SO THAT'S THE, YOU, THEN THAT IT WAS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.
PEOPLE WERE WORKING FOR THE SAME JOB ISSUE.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU TRY TO AVOID.
AND MOVING FORWARD AT THAT STUDY, WE LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT INTERNAL EQUITIES, HOW WE CALCULATE SALARIES, POSITION CHAIRS, OBVIOUSLY IT APPEARS SALARY.
I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THOUGH THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE THE RESULTS OF THE EFFICIENCY STAFFING THAT WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR AGO FOR THE POSITIONS AND THAT WE NOT START OVER OR THAT PART, THAT PART SHOES WILL BE RELATIVELY VALUABLE.
UM, AND WE HAD A LOT OF POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN HR.
THERE WERE IDENTIFIED ENGINEERING SERVICES.
SO, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T FORGET ABOUT THAT MR. SMITH OR DAVID, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M GOING TO LET DALE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR SALARY SCHEDULE AS PROMISED OUR SALARY SCHEDULE
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IS PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.IT'S ALL OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY TO SEE.
WE HAVE A CLASS ABOUT SALARY SCHEDULE AND SPG HERE.
AND, UM, THEN WE HAVE, UM, THAT CLASS CERTIFIED AND THEY CLASSIFY ALL SUPPORTS.
THE TEACHER SALARIES BASELINE WAS DETERMINED BY THE STATE.
SO THE STATE PAYS 90% OF OUR TEACHERS.
SO AT FIRST YEAR TEACHER YOU'RE AT $37,000.
95% OF THEM COMES FROM THE STATE.
THEN WE HAVE LOCAL SUPPLEMENT.
WE HAVE THE EIA FUNDS THAT GO TO MEET HER FOR THE REST OF THAT.
SO HOW DO WE, AS A DISTRICT ADJUST THE TEACHER'S SALARIES, GET HER BECAUSE IT IS BASED OFF WHAT THE STATE SAYS WE NEED TO DO.
YOU HAVE A, YOU ADJUST YOUR ROLE SUPPLEMENT TO WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT STATES THAT ARE MINIMUM.
TEACHERS NEED TO BE AT 35,000.
SO IF WE WANT IT TO ADD ANOTHER $50,000 TODAY, WE'D BE JUST FINE.
AND WE WOULD NEVER HAVE RETENTION ARE OUR CURRENT TEACHER SALARY SCHEDULE THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S GOING TO, UM, PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT AT WORKING AT THE BACHELOR'S AND ZERO, WE'RE MORE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THIRD IN THE STATE.
UM, AS FAR AS OUR BACHELOR'S IN ZERO, AND WE HAVE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE AS ARE WE HAPPY WITH BEING AT THE BOTTOM THIRD, BOTTOM THIRD, ZERO BACHELORS, A BACHELORS DEGREE WITH YOUR YEARS, WE PAY THE BOTTOM THIRD FOR ZERO WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE.
AND BASED ON THAT, ONCE YOU SHARED FROM YOUR SLIDE, THAT HE HAS AN INFORMATION THAT HE HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE STATE AND IN OUR SALARY STANDARDS, BUT WE'RE AT, TOWARDS WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM THIRD, AS FAR AS, UH, I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN THE DISTRICT, MR. CHICAGO MAY BE ABLE TO ATTEST TO THIS.
WE WERE ONE OF THE HIGHEST SALARIES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, AND WE HAD VERY LITTLE VACANCIES WHEN DAY ONE STARTED.
UM, WE HAVE NOT KEPT PACE WITH THAT.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, OUR EIGHT SEEMS THAT OUR VACANCIES INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS.
IT MAY NOT BE ONE OF THE REASONS, BUT IT'S SURELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN ORDER TO DRAW THOSE INDIVIDUALS HERE, AT LEAST GET THEM HERE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, CONDITIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS RETAIN, I BELIEVE, RETAINED STAFF BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR A POSITION, UM, THE FIRST THING THAT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE SALARY.
AM I ABLE TO LIVE ON THAT SALARY NET IN THAT AREA? IF I CAN, THEN I'M GOING TO SAY THAT A DIFFERENT CAMP.
UM, SO WE, WE WE'VE CREATED A SPREADSHEET, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THAT SALARY COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND WE DETERMINED THAT WE WANTED TO GO X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR BA AND ZERO.
AND IF I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, I COULD SHOW YOU, UM, SHOW YOU THAT.
SO DALE, AS YOU'RE DOING THAT, CAN I JUST ASK, UM, SO BACHELOR'S WAS ZERO AND THEN BACHELOR'S WITH ONE IT'S THE SAME SALARY, RIGHT? AND THEN BACHELOR'S WITH TWO EMPLOYEES, 30 ARE FINALLY GETTING A STEP INCREASE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEY WORKED FOR US FOR TWO YEARS AT THE SAME SALARY AS BEGINNING YOUR TEACHER GOING THROUGH A DECK, GOING THROUGH ALL THAT PROCESS.
AND THERE'S NO STEP IN WHEN WAS THAT DECIDED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO STEP EQUALS ZERO AND ONE, I THINK IT WAS $2 AND 11 STATE WITH THAT MONEY ECONOMY JUST STATUS.
NO, MA'AM OUR COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS OF CHARLESTON AND EVEN SAVANNAH CHATHAM, WHICH IS GEORGIA.
OF COURSE, THEY ALL HAVE A STEPPER UP THE STEP GREASE, UH, BETWEEN YOURS, YOURS, ZERO AND ONE.
UM, THE STATE MINIMUM SALARIES GOT TO GO, HAS THE
UM, BUT THAT LIKE AGAIN, COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS, UH, THEY ALL HAVE A PRICE INCREASE OR A WAGE INCREASE.
YOU'RE NOT ONLY DOING WHAT'S THE STARTING SALARY, BUT WE CAN ALSO INFLUENCE THE STEP WHEN THEY HAVE,
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HOW MUCH BACK TO YOUR STEPPING TWO, ONE, 2011, WHEN IT WAS THE STATE, WE JUST HAD THE PASSION NOT TO GIVE US STEM DEGREES AND WE TOOK IT AND WE TOOK IT AND WE DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE MANY OTHER DISTRICTS AND THE STATE IN THAT SENSE AND LEAD US TO HOPE, BUT WE NEVER DO BECAUSE MY NEXT QUESTION IS ONE OF THE MOMS BURGLARY, DO WE KNOW THE PERSON THERE'S, WE ARE IN CLASS? YES, MA'AM.I HAVE A COST OF LIVING INDEX.
UM, WE COMPARE SIMILAR COUNTIES, UM, AND OTHER THAN CHARLESTON COUNTY WHERE THE SECOND HIGHEST, UM, FOLLOWED BY GREENVILLE.
SO IN CHARLESTON COUNTY, UH, THE OVERALL INDEX COST OF LIVING IS 11 111.5 YEAR FOR COUNTY'S OVERALL INDEX.
AND THE COST OF LIVING IS 94.1.
UM, OUR MEDIAN HOME COSTS, FOR EXAMPLE, A SET OF $222,600 IS THE SECOND HIGHEST.
AND AGAIN, COMPARABLE DISTRICTS.
UM, SO THAT PUTS INTO PERSPECTIVE WHAT OUR STARTING SALARY, IT MIGHT LOOK LARGE, BUT IT REALLY OVERALL, UH, BUT THE COST OF BUILDING IS NOT, YOU KNOW, AND SO, SO THEN WE PLAYED AROUND WITH THE SALARY SCHEDULE THING, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE SALARY SCHEDULE? YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF A BAN ZERO WAS X NUMBER OF DOLLARS? SO, UM, WE CREATED A LOT OF SPREADSHEET AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT FORTIES OUT, STARTED READING STARTING AT $40,000 AND MOVING UP TO, UH, THIS MAY BE HARD FOR YOU TO SEE.
WE ALSO INCLUDED WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE WENT UP TO 28 YEARS, WHICH IS AT THE MOST TEACHERS IS ELIGIBILITY FOR RETIREMENT.
HERE'S WHAT THAT DOES BY ADDING THOSE EXTRA YEARS THAT INCREASES YOUR RETIREMENT PAY SUBSTANTIALLY.
I THINK IT'S A TRAVESTY SERIOUSLY THAT WE DO NOT OFFER A STEP BEYOND YEAR 20, 24.
SO LAST NIGHT WHEN WE MADE THE CHOICE TO KNOW FOR THE STEP INCREASE ALL OF OUR MOST EXPERIENCED TEACHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, STRENGTH OF THEIR CAREER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING FOR THAT BONUS, BUT THEY GET NO STEP INCREASE.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A CRUCIAL ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TRULY CONSIDER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE IMPLEMENTED THE, A LOCALITY SUPPLEMENT A FEW YEARS AGO, AND NOW WE'RE AT THE FULL 5,000.
HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL HIRING JUST AS MANY TEACHERS TODAY AS ONE OF THEM BEFORE THE ACCOUNT WENT INTO EFFECT.
SO IT HAS HELPED WITH RETENTION MAYBE MORE SO ON THE CLASSIFIED SIDE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT HELPED TO RETAIN OUR GOOD QUALITY TEACHERS IN THE DISTRICT JUST FLAT FOR A YEAR STRAIGHT, WHICH IS PAID AT $2,500 INCREMENTS TWO TIMES PER YEAR.
SO YOU HAD HR STAGE BEFORE THAT IT HELPS WITH RECRUITMENT.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT HELPING WITH ATTENTION NECESSARILY WHEN YOU FACTOR THAT $5,000 INTO THE SALARY.
DOES THAT BRING US CLOSER TO SAVANNAH AND CHATHAM? I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE SAME POCKET OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S RETIREMENT, EVEN.
I DON'T THINK RETIRING, IT DOES NOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT, DOES THAT NOT HELP? DON'T WE HAVE TO KIND OF FACTOR THAT IN.
WE DO FACTOR IT IN, BUT BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GUARANTEE AND WE'RE SELLING IT.
WE HAVE TO SAY THIS BOARD WOULD GO AWAY.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS, SO IF I MAY, SO WHAT IS THAT $5,000 THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THAT WAS, I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE BENEFIT LOAD IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DOLLAR DOWN AND STUFF, BUT IF THAT WAS MADE, YEAH.
ANYWAYS, JUST TRYING TO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN FORGET ABOUT THE FACT THAT FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, THE BOARD HAS ALWAYS APPROVED LOCALITY SUPPLEMENTS AND THAT'S AN EXTRA $5,000
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FOR CERTIFIED.IS THAT WHAT'S DONE CLASSIFIED IN MINISTRY THIS YEAR.
UM, AND I THINK FROM THERE THAT WILL, SHOULD TAKE OFF.
UM, MS. BENDER TRIANGLE BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE LOCALITY SOMETHING, BUT, UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT I KNOW IT'S $5,000 AND IT'S STANDARD FOR ALL CERTIFIED EMPLOYEES.
UM, WHAT SAVANNAH CHATHAM DOES IS THEY HAVE THEIRS ON A, ON A, ON A, MORE OF A FLOATING BASIS BASED ON THEIR DEGREES AND THAT THE, THE DEGREE ATTAINMENT, UM, AND THEY BUILD THAT RIGHT INTO THEIR SALARY SCHEDULE.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THERE'S A BASE SALARY AND LOCALITY SUPPLEMENT AND THAT LOCALITY SOMETHING, AND AGAIN, IS, THIS IS, UH, A PORTION OR A PROPORTION OF THE SALARY.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR BOX AND THAT SCHEDULE IS PUBLISHED ON THEIR WEBSITE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS A COMPARISON DISTRICT, AS A COMPETITIVE DISTRICT, THAT EFFECT, UM, TO KIND OF GET BACK TO THE RATIONALE ABOUT MAKING SURE WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT TEACHER STATS, TEACHER SALARIES AS WELL.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, 25 DISTRICTS PAY LESS THAN BEAVER COUNTY AND YEAR ZERO AND 52 DISTRICTS PAY MORE THAN YOU FOR COUNTY AND YEAR.
SO THAT DOES PUT US AT THE BOTTOM OF THIRD IN STATE.
I KNOW WHEN I HIRED IN THE DISTRICT IN 2003, UM, THE THEN SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME WAS SERVING, GAVE THERE.
AND ONE OF THE DRAWS FOR US MOVING FROM OUT OF STATE WAS THAT IT WAS A HIGHEST PAID COUNTY IN THE, IN THE STATE.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FINAL STEP RANGES, UM, I LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, UM, A LOT OF TEACHERS FINISH THEIR CAREER WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE, PLUS 30 CREDIT HOURS.
MOST OF THEM DON'T GO ON TO THE DOCTORATE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FINAL STEP, THERE ARE STILL 10 DISTRICTS, INCLUDING SAVANNAH THAT PAY MORE AS A FINAL STEP.
UM, BUFORD COUNTY CURRENTLY PAYS $70,134.
UM, AT THAT, AT THAT RANGE OF A MASTER'S PLUS 30, UM, SAVANNAH CHATHAM IS, UH, THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR CEO AT 77,699.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOK AT TOO IS, AND ALICE MENTIONED THIS WITH OUR SALARY SCHEDULE, THE YEAR CEILING ON THERE, AND ON THE STATE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH, UM, THE SALARIES FOR ALL, UH, DEGREE LEVELS AND ALL OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
AND SO I DON'T HAVE THIS AS A COPY FOR ANYBODY.
YOU COULDN'T READ IT AS I DID, BUT THE YELLOW LINE HERE REPRESENTS YOUR 23, ALL OF THE RED BOXES, HOWEVER, REPRESENT A YEAR, WHICH THE SALARY FREEZES.
SO ON BUFORD COUNTY, WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE WE GO OUT TO YEAR NUMBER, GOT TO FIND IT, SORRY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'D GO OUT TO YOUR NUMBERS 30.
IF YOU CARRY IT ALL THE WAY OUT HERE.
WHEN IN REALITY WE STOP OURS, WE FREEZE OUR SALARIES AND YOU'RE 24.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE MISLEADING IF YOU LOOK AT, UP ON THE STATE OR ANYBODY LOOKS THAT UP ON THE STATE WEBSITE, BECAUSE I'LL SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE ACCOUNTANTS GO OUT TO HERE 30 AND 31 WHEN IN FACT REALLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
UM, SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE STUDIED, UM, WILL TAKE AN L THREE YEARS, 23 AND 24.
AND THEN FOR THOSE THAT STAY ON FOR 25 AND 26 OUT, BUMP THEM UP AGAIN ON THE SALARY AND THE SAME THING FOR 27, IT'S ONE GATE SAVANNAH CHATHAM.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY, UM, PAY ADDITIONAL BEHIND YEAR 25, IF YOU WERE IN THAT DISTRICT FOR ALL 25 YEARS.
SO YOU GET STUCK AT YOUR 24, IF YOU ARE ONLY BEEN THERE FOR PART OF THE TIME, BUT 25 AND BEYOND THE LONGER THAT YOU'RE THERE.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM OF THE RANGE AND THE SPIRAL PACE THERE, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT TEACHERS WITH DOCTORATES, UH, SAVANNAH CHATTER AND PAYS $4,423 MORE AT THE TOP OF THE SALARY SCHEDULE GREENVILLE, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST SALARY IN THE STATE PAYS $7,777 MORE, AND YOUR TWO PAYS $5,360 A MONTH.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ONLY LOOK AT AS BEING COMPARABLE.
THEN WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE FULL STATE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT ONES THAT, UH, DISTRICTS THAT PAY MORE THAN WE DO THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY DROP CANDIDATES.
UM, BACHELORS, ALL ME, WE DO PAY MORE AT THE TOP END, UH, THAN SAVANNAH DOES.
UM, THAT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH DOES THEIR REWARDS OR THEIR INCENTIVES OR FURTHER EDUCATION.
UH, BUT IN TERMS OF GREENVILLE, GREENVILLE STILL PAYS ALMOST $6,000 MORE IN YORK TOUPEES, $3,650 MORE THAN WE DO IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY.
UM, AT THE BACHELOR'S LEVEL, UM, I HAVE SOME NATIONAL DISTRICT CALL ON NATIONALS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT THAT'S ONLY COMPARED.
SO NATIONALLY THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, THERE ARE 41 STATES THAT PAY HIGHER IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN THE UNITED STATES IS 61,730 HOURS FOR THE AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY.
AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA, OUR AVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS 50,395.
UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S ALL SWAPPED THOUSAND DOLLAR DIFFERENCE.
AND WHEN YOU SAY AVERAGE, IS THAT WHERE THE BACHELOR'S
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IS THAT HOW MANY YEARS, THE AVERAGE WE LOOK AT ALL THE DEGREE LEVELS.AND WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND WE PUT ALL OF THAT INTO THE, UH, TO THE FORMAT TO GET THE, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE MEDIUM.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I'D BE WANT TO THANK THE BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL FOR THE, UM, FOR YOUR DILIGENCE, UH, TO THE, TO THE HONORING THE STEP INCREASE IN THE DRUGS, UM, APPROVING THE, UH, SPANKING FOR THAT ON BEHALF OF THE TEACHER THAT WAS IN SCHOOLS TODAY.
AND I HEARD THEM TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEY WERE WELL RECEIVED, SO EXCELLENT.
I GOT A FEW PHONE CALLS AND VERY HAPPY, UM, AND THAT HAPPENED AT THE SITE THEN, AND THEN, OKAY.
SO, UM, QUESTIONS, ANYTHING ELSE? THE ONLY OTHER ONE COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY WE HEAR THAT ORGANIZATIONS AND COMPANIES ARE MOVING CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT MINIMUM WAGE OF $15 AN HOUR.
IS IT COMING TO BUFORD COUNTY TO COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA? WE DON'T KNOW.
UM, IF IT DOES, THAT'S A BIG HIT THAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE, THEY HAVE TO ABSORB THAT $15 AN HOUR ALL AT ONE TIME.
UM, IF WE COULD MOVE CLOSER TO THAT $15 AN HOUR BEFORE IT HAPPENS, THE IMPACT IS NOT GOING TO BE SO GREAT AT ONE TIME, BUT Y YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THE COST, RIGHT? LIKE I DON'T THE NATIONAL DEBT, BUT AS LONG AS MUCH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO ONE OF THE CHEAPER STATES, ONLY $50 HOURS ALREADY.
CAUSE YOU UNDER A BRIDGE IN SEATTLE, IT'S ALL RELATIVE.
BUT ONE QUESTION I HAD IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE LOCALI SUPPLEMENTS, I REPRESENT HELP HEAD COST COSTS, LENDING SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER ON DON'T SPEND IT.
IF YOU'VE WRITTEN THAT FACTOR BUDGET.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT EVER ABOUT LIKE WHERE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND TEACH AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIVING AND TEACHING OUT, YOU KNOW, IN BUFORD OR, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WHEN THE LOCALITY SUPPLEMENT WAS CREATED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A MOUSE, I DON'T THINK THEY LOOKED AT THE LOAD, YOUR GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION IN ACCOUNT, AND EVERYBODY LIVED, I BELIEVE THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS I'M A CERTIFIED TEACHER THEN, AND I'M A CERTIFIED TEACHER, WHETHER IT BE FOR WHETHER I'M PLUGGED IN OR WHETHER ON, AND WE SHOULD ALL GET THE SAME AMOUNT SPECIFIC TO ME, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO HILTON HEAD BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE FURTHER AND FOR CRAP, BECAUSE COST OF LIVING, WE'VE GOT HUGE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND TRAFFIC ISSUES TO COME ON TO THE ISLANDS AND TEACH.
UM, AND IT'S A HUGE ISSUE WORK OR HAVING, AND I'LL JUST SHARE A STORY WITH YOU.
IT'S GOT A 16 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, $15 AN HOUR, WHICH IS THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE, CORRECT.
I MEAN, YOU GOT TO PAY SOME MONEY TO GET TO TEACH.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IS, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK, I THINK ACTUALLY, SO SALARIES THAT MAYBE ARE NUMBER ONE TO COME WITH THEIR HUSBAND OR THEIR WIFE OR WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE TEACHING, BUT YOU CAN MAKE MORE MONEY WORKING AT A GROCERY STORE THEN YOU CAN MAKE TEACHING.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK IN TERMS OF HOW WE LOOK AT OURSELVES.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S, IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TRIPS US UP IN PUBLIC EDUCATION IS A UNIVERSAL SALARY SCHEDULE.
UM, AND IF WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT IS EQUITABLE ARE HARD TO STAFF SCHOOLS, AND WE CAN REALLY START TO LOOK AT THE STUDY OF MAKING SURE, LIKE, WHAT IS THE RETENTION IN HARD TO STAFF, HIGH MINORITY, HIGH POVERTY SCHOOLS WITH LOW ACHIEVEMENT.
IF WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT AND WE DON'T START TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE RETENTION, WHAT HAPPENS IS IN EFFECT BECOMES CALLED REVOLVING DOOR.
AND SO WE HAVE A REVOLVING DOOR AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE TEACHERS THAT COME THERE ARE TYPICALLY FIRST AND SECOND YEAR TEACHERS.
AND WHEN THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TEACHING IN SCHOOL WITH MAYBE LESS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THAT CAUSES FOR THAT PARTICULAR SCHOOL, THAT WOULD BE NORTH OF THE BROAD, UM, IT'S THE SAME AS LOSING AN EMPLOYEE, EVEN THOUGH THEY TRANSFER WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO BRING THAT UP.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT DOES NEED TO BE STRONGLY CONSIDERED.
I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY A GOOD PLACE TO BRING IT UP AS YOU CONSTANTLY NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT HAS BEEN A MANTRA OF SEVERAL OF OURS ON THE BOARD FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO INCENTIVIZE GIVING, UM, THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE GREATER NEED? SO THEY'RE EITHER MORE TEACHERS, SMALLER CLASSROOMS, EITHER OR MORE EXPERIENCED TEACHERS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? UM, MY FIRST THOUGHT ON THAT IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO A COMPENSATION STUDY, BUT THEN TO ME, THAT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN HR INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES
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INITIATIVE, YOU KNOW, WHICH MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF A COMPENSATION STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT LEAST ATTRACTING.I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS? I USED TO GIVE THOSE SCHOOLS AN INCENTIVE OF $2,500 IN ADDITION TO HOWEVER, UM, IT'S ALL PREDICATED ON THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT THERE, THEN IT GOES AWAY.
SO THEN YOU'RE BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
YOU DON'T WANT TO COMPENSATE SOMEBODY FOR PULLING OUT THERE THAT'S NOT EFFECTIVE.
UM, AND I'VE WORKED AT, I WORKED IN WELL BRANCH AND I WORKED ON GONADS AND MY TEACHER SAID, GO AHEAD.
I WOULD LOSE DOWN TO THE SERVICE ENTRY ALL THE TIME.
SO I UNDERSTAND I HEAR BOTH SIDES.
AND I JUST THINK THAT IF, IF THE BOARD IS SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD, THEN WE REALLY HAVE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE BEEN DOING JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE UP AT THIS TIME.
NOW CREATING A MODEL SCHOOL FOR FREE FORM AND STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF COMPENSATING, THOSE PEOPLE ON SALARY.
HAVING YOU START WITH THAT, WE'VE DONE A STUDY IN HR TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY SETTING UP A PILOT SCHOOL, MAYBE EVEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US CB, UM, TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT GETTING A TEACHER CADETS AND INTERIM TEACHERS TO COME AND WORK ALONGSIDE MASTER TEACHERS WHO WOULDN'T BE IDENTIFIED BY LOOKING AT TEST DATA AND ACHIEVEMENT DATA TO FIND OUT WHO IS EFFECTIVE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HIRE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PRINCIPAL TO LEAD THAT KIND OF INITIATIVE, UM, TO REALLY START PROBABLY AT AN ELEMENTARY AGE BECAUSE OF THE EARLY INTERVENTION, UM, AS IT SETS KIDS UP FOR MIDDLE END AND SECONDARY EXPERIENCE, UM, THE, SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AND THERE WAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF ABOUT $10,000 FOR A TEACHER BEING INCENTIVIZED TO MOVE FROM A DAY SCHOOL TO AN F SCHOOL.
UM, THAT'S BACK WHEN WE USED TO DO THAT AS AN ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE STATE.
UM, BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT THOUGH.
WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO TAKE AND TO CALL THE TEACHERS THAT HAVE SPENT A LONG TIME IN THE HARD TO STAFF SCHOOLS AND FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS, WHY DO THEY STAY THERE? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE STAYED THERE THROUGHOUT HAVING THE SAME SALARY.
SO IT'S NOT SALARY FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
SO THERE'S ALL THIS OTHER STUFF TOO, THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY.
AND SO WE HAVE BEGUN SOME OF THE ROUTES FOR THAT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, AND, AND PURSUE DEEPER, UM, SHOULD THE CHICANA, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY, SHOULD THE NEED ARISE BECAUSE THE NEED IS THIS FAST.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CLOSING THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP, WHICH IS NOW A CHASM DUE TO THE COVID-19 SHUTDOWNS AND THE KIDS LEARNING AT HOME.
UM, AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO MOVE ON THAT.
NO, I TALKED TO BROAD RIVER ELEMENTARY AND ROBERT SMALLS, AND I HEAR ABOUT THEIR TURNOVER AND TEACHERS.
BASICALLY, THEY START WITH PLUNGER.
AS MANY AS ONE THIRD OF TEACHERS IN THAT BED, PRINCIPAL CANNOT BUILD A TEAM.
ONE THIRD OTHER TEACHERS MOVE OFF.
WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS, NOT ONLY SALARY STRUCTURE.
WE'VE GOT TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT YOU WORK IN A CHALLENGING SCHOOL.
WE'LL PAY FOR YOUR MASTER'S PROGRAM AT USC, YOU WORK AT A CHALLENGING SCHOOL.
WE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDCARE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE DR.
LOVECCHIO SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A PROGRAM TEACHING CHILDCARE.
WHAT IF WE BUILT A CHILDCARE FACILITY AT THE ACE? AND WE SAID, TEACHERS AND NEWPORT COUNTY REACH OUT HERE, YOU CHUCK UP YOUR KID OFF THERE.
I CAN HAVE MY FOLKS LEARN FROM THEM.
AND WE COULD PROBABLY BRING, EVEN WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, BUT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE A THIRD TERM CHALLENGING SCHOOLS, NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP.
IF THOSE PRINCIPALS CAN BUILD A TEAM AND WE JUST HAVE TO DO SOME, THIS IS GREAT CONVERSATION.
AND WE NEED TO PLAN A MEETING TO HAVE SOME OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BUBBLE UP AND EVERYTHING, BUT RIGHT.
REGARDING THE COMPENSATION STUDY.
SO MS. WALTON, YOU PRESENTED US WITH THE REASONS WHY YOU SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND IT.
WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP FOR THE BOARD TO WHO TO US COMPENSATION STUDY.
AND SO YOU WOULD THEN PUT OUT LIKE AN RFP OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UM, AND SO IS THAT, IS IT MORE IMPORTANT FOR
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ME? I WAS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS FOR THAT SALARY STUDY? SO WOULD WE NEED TO PLAN ANOTHER MEETING FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND SAY, WHY DON'T WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT OUT AN RFP, THESE ARE OUR GOALS.YOU EVEN SAID THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE HAS TO BE MR. SMITH IS HANDS UP.
UM, SO, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS, PERHAPS, DAVID, UM, YEAH, I TOOK MY HAND DOWN.
I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT THAT WE'RE DRIFTING ALONG WAY FROM THE COMPENSATION.
WE SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING, COMPREHENSIVE TEACHER RETENTION PLAN.
UM, AND THAT FOR YOU, THAT'D BE AN ALL DAY MEETING, BUT YOU, YOU BEAT ME TO IT.
BUT I DO HAVE, I WONDER, WHY DOES THE BOYD BOARD HAVE TO APPROVE YOUR DWYER COMPENSATION STUDIES IS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE, IT'S ALWAYS RUDE HARMONIZATION.
I JUST WONDER WHY, BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF YOU THINK YOU NEED A COMPENSATION STUDY, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND GET IT.
UM, UNLESS IT'S AN EXORBITANT COST.
NO, I MEAN, DAVID, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, IS THERE ANOTHER STEP THAT'S OR IS IT THAT, UH, WE TELL ALICE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD? YEAH.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, PRESENT, CAUSE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASK IS GOING TO COST BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR IT.
SO IT HAS SOME OF THOSE DETAILS BECAUSE AS INSTALLED LAST NIGHT, OUR LET A MEMBER FULL COMMUNITY DOESN'T DO WELL WITH DETAILS EITHER SO MIDNIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, COST, RANGE, TIMEFRAME, WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED BECAUSE I THINK I'M ON THE A HUNDRED PERCENT, ONE OF THEM FOR THE COMPENSATION STUDY, BUT WE JUST, I LIKE TO KNOW THAT.
UM, MR. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? OKAY, SO, SORRY.
WELL, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT MAYBE HAVING THIS WALTON AND HER TEAM PUT TOGETHER WHAT A CON, WHAT SHOULDN'T IT TAKES BEFORE, LET US TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD WITH LIKE A LEGIT PROPOSAL.
HOW'D YOU DO THAT FOR THE MAIN MEETING? SURE.
BUT WE NEED A MEETING BEFORE THAT, HERE, IN MY OPINION, JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO VET THE DETAILS SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE OPERATIONS MAY JUST BE A LITTLE MORE DETAILS AS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU THINK THE COST WOULD BE, WHAT THE GOALS WOULD BE FOR TIMEFRAME, ALL OF THOSE SIX.
UM, AND I'M STANDING WHETHER HER PLACE, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY MUCH ON THE FULL COMMITTEE NEEDS ARE GOT, STAY ON TASK.
AND I SEE YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT A GREAT JOB OF REDIRECTING, BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT MR. GUY'S SAYING, AND THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND YOU'RE HAVING THESE KIND OF GREAT OPEN DISCUSSION ON WHAT A COMPENSATION IS AND WHAT IS NOT.
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE PLACE IN THIS MEETING WHERE PEOPLE SHOULD BRING SORT OF UNBELIEVABLE RANGE OF TOPICS.
AND ALL OF THIS, UH, IS CRUCIAL.
AND I'M STARTING TO ADD THE TWO YEARS ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT, KEEP DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT HAVING THIS COMPENSATION STUDY, I THINK IS ALSO A PARALLEL GOOD BEGINNING.
AND I LOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD, PULLS UP, YOU'VE HEARD ISSUES LIKE HILTON HEAD IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MAY MEETING.
I KNOW, BRING BACK A LITTLE MORE AND A BOX OF WHAT A COMPENSATION STUDY COULD LOOK LIKE.
I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT.
AND IT ALSO COULD BE HAVING THE WRITING AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE HISTORY, WE HAVE SOME MYSTERY IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, W W WHAT IS EXPECTED AND WHAT WOULD LIKE TO BE, WHAT WOULD LIKE WHERE, WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO.
UM, I JUST SEEN THAT THEY ALL NEED TO BE SPELLED OUT, UH, AND I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE, TO BE IN WRITING, UH, THAT WOULD HELP ME.
EXECUTIVES, TALK ABOUT COMPENSATION IN SCHOOLS, EVERYONE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO SEPARATE LINES BY CLASS, BECAUSE THAT JUST CREATES.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW,
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THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY A CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE, BUT IT MIGHT BE UNDER THIS UMBRELLA.ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, UM, BECAUSE ON THAT TIME AS WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND YOUR LIFETIME IN A DISTRICT AND WHEN YOU LEAVE THE DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE 96 DAYS, YOU GET $10 A DAY, LUDICROUS TEACHERS AND INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE, NOT TO ALL BACK TO US.
NOW, WE'RE NOT SEEING AS MANY DAYS OFF, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE SUBSTITUTE.
SO IT'S COMING BACK TO AN ORGANIZATION.
YOU'RE GOING TO PAY HIM $10 A DAY, AND I'LL LET YOU GO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THE THIRD WEDNESDAY, RIGHT? WELL, ROBIN TYPICALLY THE THIRD, WEDNESDAY, SECOND, WEDNESDAY, SECOND.
[Presentation from J Bragg Consulting about the Lady’s Island Traffic Study]
PRESENTATION.LADIES ISLAND TRAFFIC STUDY IS, DO WE HAVE OUR GUESTS WITH US ONLINE WITH US, MOLLY? YES, I'M HERE.
YOU WANT TO DO ANY INTROS, MR. ALUMNA'S BREAD, UH, INTERVIEWS FOR INDIVIDUAL WINTER.
SHE'S CALLING A NEED TO SHARE HER SCREEN.
I'M WITH J BRIGHT CONSULTING REPRESENTING P FOR COUNTY ON THEIR 2018 1 CENT SALES TAX PROGRAM.
UH, WITH ME TODAY, BRITTANY FIELDS WITH THE COUNTY, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, SHE IS ALSO ONLINE.
AND THEN MIKE METZ IS ALSO ONLINE HE'S WITH J BRAG CONSULTING, ALSO WORKING ON THE 2018 SALES TAX PROGRAMS. SO YES, I WILL NEED TO SHARE MY SCREEN, SEE WHERE THIS OKAY.
SO ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN? IT SHOULD BE SHOWING A GOOGLE EARTH IMAGE.
SO TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, AS I MENTIONED, UH, IN 2018 BEAVER COUNTY HAD A SALES TAX REFERENDUM FOR THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS.
UH, THAT PROJECT IS BEING MANAGED BY, UH, S C D O T WITH THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT.
THE NEXT PROJECT WAS THE LADY'S ISLAND CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT ACTUALLY CONTAINS NINE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS.
AND THEN THE THIRD PROJECT WAS SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS, AND IT ACTUALLY HAD 24 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
SO WITH THE LADIES ISLAND COURT OR PROJECTS, THEY WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FROM A STUDY THAT WAS PREPARED IN 2017, THAT DETAILED BENIGN PROJECTS.
AND THEY ARE CONSISTING OF, UM, ALL OF THEM ON LADY'S ISLAND.
I'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE REAL QUICK.
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN AREAS, AIRPORT FRONTAGE ROAD.
IT'S JUST A BRAND NEW ROAD OUT NEAR WHERE THE WALMART IS, UM, TO PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO, UH, LOST ISLAND AND LITTLE CREEK.
THEN WE'VE GOT A LOT CENTERED AROUND THE MAIN INTERSECTION HERE AND THE TWO THAT ARE PROBABLY OF THE MOST IMPORTANCE TO THE SCHOOL OR THE BE FOR HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS, REAL ALIGNMENT, AS WELL AS THE LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS ROAD.
THE OTHER, UH, PROJECTS ARE SUNSET MILLER DRIVE, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, HAZEL FARM TO GAYE DRIVE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.
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THERE'S ANOTHER SMALLER PROJECT CALLED MEADOWBROOK DRIVE EXTENSION, UH, DOWN HERE THAT PROVIDES CONNECTIONS TO DELL ROAD.UH, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER SMALLER PROJECT MAYFAIR COURT EXTENSION TO PROVIDE CONNECTION TO WILLIAMS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE MAIN LINE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE SEA ISLAND PARKWAY FROM THE WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE EAST, UH, JUST BEYOND WALMART.
AND IT TIES IN BEFORE THE CHALLEN QUICK CREEK BRIDGE AND THEN ON, UM, LADY'S ISLAND DRIVE FROM ROUTE A BLOCK TO THE MAIN INTERSECTION AT SAM'S POINT, AND THEN SAM'S POINT ROAD, UH, TO MILLER DRIVE WEST.
SO THE BIG PROJECT IS ONE MAIN CORRIDOR PROJECTS.
SO THE TWO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY ARE, AGAIN, THE BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS REALIGNMENT AND THE LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS ROAD.
SO WITH THE, FOR HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS REALIGNMENT, THE EXISTING INTERSECTION IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR CONNECTION AS TO GEECHEE ROAD OUT TO THE BUSINESS CORRIDOR OF U S 21 SEATTLE AND PATHWAY.
UM, FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR ARE LOOKING AT ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, UM, AND BASICALLY INSTALLING RACE PLANNING, MEDIANS, AND CONCRETE ISLANDS TO DEFINE WHERE PEOPLE TURN LEFT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE TURN LEFT AT MULTIPLE PLACES WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
THERE ARE A LOT OF CONFLICTS AND, UM, ACCIDENTS THAT TAKE PLACE.
UH, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO TURN LEFT.
SO WITH THIS, UM, AND WHEN THE PENNY KICKED OFF, UM, IN THE COLLECTION STARTED MAY 1ST, 2019, ANOTHER REPORT WAS DONE AND THAT REPORT, UM, ACTUALLY LOOKED AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS REALIGNMENT THAT WAS TAKEN TO A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND IF I SHARE MY SCREEN, DO YOU NOW SEE THIS IMAGE? SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN TO A PUBLIC MEETING ON JANUARY 8TH OF 2020.
SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, A PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD THAT PRESENTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
ONE, UM, THE, THIS FUCHSIA PINK COLOR, UH, A CONNECTION STRAIGHT OUT TO ANOTHER, THIS IS THE EXISTING, IT WAS THE BLUE WITH THE, A LITTLE BIT OF RED.
I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS SHOWING THAT SHIRT, EXISTING CONNECTION OUT TO DG OUT.
ANOTHER ONE SHOWS GOING THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER TO ALIGN WITH SUNSET BOULEVARD AND THEN SOME OTHER BLUE OPTIONS UTILIZING, UM, YEOMANS, UH, BACK OUT TO MERIDIAN AND BACK OUT TO SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THIS MEETING WERE OPPOSED TO ANY DIRECT CONNECTION TO MERIDIAN AND ALSO DIRECT CONNECTION WITH THE INTERSECTION THAT SUNSET, UM, AND THEN SEVERAL OTHERS.
WE'RE ALSO GOING, WHY ARE YOU GOING TO BRING CONNECTION OUT ON A YEOMAN'S ACROSS FROM THE COMPLEX AND MAKING ANOTHER CONNECTION OVER EVERYBODY KEPT ASKING WHY WASN'T AN OPTION.
WOULD THAT TO GET THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC DIRECTLY TO LADY'S ISLAND DRIVER, A LOT OF PEOPLE REFER TO IT SAMSUNG POINT, BUT IN THIS ERA, IT ACTUALLY IS LADY'S ISLAND DRIVE.
SEVERAL OTHER COMMENTS WERE WE'LL JUST TAKE THE TRAFFIC OUT, UH, CAROLYN DRIVE OVER, OVER TO ROOT OF WALL.
SO WHAT THE COUNTY DID FOLLOWING THAT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WAS SINCE THE 2017 STUDY WAS APPROACHING THREE YEARS OLD, TRAFFIC HAS OBVIOUSLY GROWN SINCE THAT TIME.
ANOTHER STUDY WAS PERFORMED IN 2020 AND FINALIZED EARLY THIS YEAR IN 2021.
AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A DIFFERENT CONNECTION.
SOMEONE GOT BACK TO MY GOOGLE EARTH, THE IMAGERY AND THE CONNECTION IT LOOKED AT WAS ACTUALLY A BRAND NEW ALIGNMENT THAT WAS TIE IN AT YEOMANS AND CAROLYN.
AND IT PROVIDES A CONNECTION OUT TO LADY'S ISLAND DRIVE ACROSS FROM THE HAZEL FORM ROAD INDUSTRY.
SO THIS WOULD, UH, PROVIDE REROUTE SCHOOL TRAFFIC TO THIS ROAD.
AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE DESIGN TEAM FOR THE CONNECTION FROM HERE BACK TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
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WITH THIS PROJECT? UM, LATELY LAST SUMMER, THE COUNTY WENT OUT FOR AN REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.TWO DESIGN TEAMS WERE SELECTED.
SO ONE DESIGN TEAM IS ACTUALLY STARTING THE WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
THEY DO, THEY HAVE HAD SURVEY CREWS OUT DOING THE INITIAL, UH, FIELD WORK.
THEY'RE STARTING WETLAND DELINEATIONS.
THEY'RE STARTING SOME OF THEIR OTHER STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
SO WE ARE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS AS FAR AS, UH, GETTING THEM THE INFORMATION SO THEY CAN START WITH THESE PROJECTS.
THE OTHER THING THAT IS BEING, UM, INCORPORATED INTO ALL OF THESE ROADWAY OR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN, UH, COMBINATIONS.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS PROJECT IS ALSO BRINGING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN COMBINATIONS ALONG THIS SCHOOL.
UM, AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, ONE THING THAT SHOULD BE MENTIONED, I DID STATE WAS BACK ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR AREAS OF RAY'S PLANTED MEDIUMS AND CONCRETE ISLANDS WOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND WITH THIS, THE EXISTING INTERSECTION, YEAH.
GEECHEE ROAD WILL BECOME RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT IN THE FUTURE.
THAT IS SHOWN THAT WAS SHANNON ON ALL, UM, EXHIBITS THAT WENT OUT FOR A PUBLIC MEETING AND A PUBLIC MEETING, A SECOND PUBLIC MEETING FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, WERE HELD THIS PAST, UM, SPRAYING THE, AT WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE ACCESS ROADS, BEING THE BEEF FROM HIGH SCHOOL REALIGNMENT, LADIES ISLAND, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ALL OF THOSE, THOSE WENT OUT, UM, MIDDLE OF JANUARY, A VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD AND ENDED FEBRUARY 21ST AND THEN A SECOND PUBLIC MEETING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MAIN LINE CORRIDORS STARTED AND AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY AND INTERNET, UM, BEGINNING OF MARCH.
SO WE GOT, UH, QUITE A FEW PUBLIC COMMENTS AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD WERE EVERYBODY'S SAYING, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKED THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE, UH, SCHOOL'S MAIN ENTRANCE, UM, FROM THIS SECTION OF C ALLEN PARKWAY.
THE OTHER THING WITH, UH, THIS ROADWAY HERE IS WE DID LOOK AT THE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, OKAY.
EVERYTHING IN GREEN FOR BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL IS THE SCHOOL'S ATTENDANCE AREA.
AND IT PICKS UP ALL OF THE ISLANDS EAST OF THE BUFORD RIVER, AND ALSO A PORTION OF PORT ROYAL.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE PORT ROYAL STUDENTS ARE COMING LADIES ISLAND DRIVE.
SO WITH THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE COMING, IF STUDENTS ARE TRAVELING FROM THIS PORTION OF LADY SILENT DRIVE, THEY CAN JUST CONTINUE SAM'S POINT, COME STRAIGHT DOWN, MAKE A RIGHT, AND THEN COME INTO THE SCHOOL.
AND LIKEWISE STUDENTS HERE FROM THE PORT ROYAL AREA CAN COME ACROSS AND TURN IN THAT CONNECTION WITH, UM, THE BEEF HIGH SCHOOL REALIGNMENT TO THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE HAZEL FARM IS WE ARE IMPROVING HAZEL FORM ROAD.
IT WILL BE PAVED STREET SCAPES, SAME WITH GAY DRIVE.
THIS ALSO PROVIDES A WAY THAT PEOPLE COULD IN THE FUTURE TURN OFF ONTO ONE OF THESE ROADS AND COME ACROSS AND NOT ACTUALLY TRAVEL THROUGH THE MAIN INTERSECTION TO GET TO THIS LOCATION.
SO THIS IS THE BEAUTIFUL HIGH SCHOOL, THIS REALIGNMENT THAT'S PROPOSED.
AND AGAIN, VERY EARLY PHASE OF STARTING INTO DESIGN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH YOU FOR, WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED? THAT WAS RIGHT NOW, MR. SNELL.
UH, MR.
AND A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS, TRANSITING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FOOTBALL FIELD DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE AND KIDS WALK ALONG THAT ROAD THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THAT ROAD.
IS THAT, IS THAT AN EXTENSION OF ROADBLOCK THAT'S CARE IS, UM, HERE IS CALLED
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CAROLYN DRIVE.SO THE KIDS ARE TRANSITING FROM THERE BACK TO THE HIGH SCHOOL FREQUENTLY.
AND SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AT THAT.
IS THAT AROUND ABOUT RIGHT THERE? THAT IS NOT AS SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT.
IS THAT A ROUNDABOUT OR A STOP SIGN? NO COOK PROPOSED.
IT'S A PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? IT IS A RIGHT NOW TO SAY PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS TRANSITING IN THIS PROPOSAL, IN THIS PROPOSAL? I STILL BELIEVE IN THIS, A SAFE DESIGN ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN.
UM, IF PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A SINGLE LANE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CARS APPROACH.
THEY'RE STOPPING, THEY'RE LOOKING, WE ARE, AGAIN, WE'RE ALSO MAKING THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, NOW WE'RE NOT CARRYING PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT LIMITS TO THIS LOCATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE AND WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE CONNECTION FROM THIS POINT BACK TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THERE WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE PROJECT WITH THIS.
UM, LIKEWISE, KEEP IN MIND A FUTURE IMPROVEMENT WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS THAT I MENTIONED.
THERE IS A PATHWAY PLANNED ALONG MERIDIAN AS PART OF THE SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS PROJECTS.
SO THERE WILL BE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN ALL OF THE PROJECT LIMITS HERE WITH THE PATHWAYS.
IF WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS HERE, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK TO A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.
BUT IF THE KIDS ARE WALKING OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT LIMITS, THEN THEY'RE WALKING ON THE EXISTING SHOULDER SIDEWALK THERE NOW, BUT WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS EXISTING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.
DO, DO WE, UH, DO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THAT LAND THAT WOULD COME IN AROUND ABOUT WOULD TAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND? I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE, IS THERE ENOUGH OPEN AREA THERE FOR THAT ROUNDABOUT? SO AGAIN, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS NOW AND WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR ACQUISITION.
UH, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE THEIR PARK PROPERTY HERE.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE LIGHT.
WE WOULD MAKE A CONNECTION TO IT FROM THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY ALSO OWN A COUPLE OF OTHER PIECES.
SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTY IN HERE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SO WE DO KNOW WE WOULD NEED RIGHT.
A BLAKE FROM THEM AS WE GET FARTHER.
WE SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
UM, FIRE DRILL, BUT WE'RE ALL SAFELY BACK IN THE BUILDING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE.
SO, UM, MR. SMITH, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? ALL RIGHT.
AS SOON AS MS. BRAGG, AS SOON AS MR. ODDEN RETURNS, THEN WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AGAIN.
UM, MS. BRAGG, THAT YOU WOULD, UM, CONTINUE, I, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT IS THE SAFETY.
UM, AND YOU WERE SAYING, WELL, AGAIN, ROUNDABOUTS, OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN OR AT, TO PROVIDES A SAFER INTERSECTION.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE STUDIES OUT THERE THAT SHOW SEEK THAT THEY AREN'T VERY SAFE AND ARE SAFER THAN OTHER TYPES OF INTERSECTIONS.
AND THEY ALSO ADDRESS HANDLING, UH, BY BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE STUDIES, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT, UH, THAT WILL BE GOING IN.
UM, WE, UM, ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AT THREE 30, SO WOULD STILL LIKE TO TOUCH ON SILENT MIDDLE SCHOOL ALSO, YOU KNOW, MS. GREG, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF HIGH SCHOOL ONE.
SO I HATE TO RUSH THROUGH THIS UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO COME BACK AGAIN.
WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO COME BACK.
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THEN WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO JUST CONTINUE WITH YOU FOR HIGH ALERT, YOU COULD COME BACK AND DO LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE AT A DIFFERENT TIME.WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS SHARING WITH US, WHAT THE REST OF THAT PLAN IS REVIEW FOR HIGH? WELL, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE BEGINNING THE DESIGN NOW.
SO BEYOND THE CONCEPT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHOW YOU AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, A NEW ROADWAY WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A NEW INTERSECTION THAT HAZEL FARM, UM, IT WILL CONNECT HERE WHERE CAROLYN AND YEOMANS COME TOGETHER.
UM, AN ACCESS ROAD FROM THIS LOCATION WOULD BE PROVIDED FROM THIS POINT TO GEECHEE, WHICH GAINS ACCESS BACK TO THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
AND THE EXISTING ACCESS FOR, FROM GEECHEE IN THE FUTURE WOULD BECOME RIGHT.
AND RIGHT OUT, THIS IS ANOTHER CONCEPT ACTUALLY SHOWING A RAISED PLAN MEDIAN INSTALLED AND THE EXISTING ROAD BEING RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT AS PART OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT BEYOND THIS, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHOW AS FAR AS ACTUAL DESIGNS, HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING TO PLAY OUT, BECAUSE WE ARE JUST BEGINNING THE PROCESS.
I'LL NOTE THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT MESSING WITH THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION OF THE SCHOOL AS WE ARE NOT, UM, COMING IN CHANGING THE ENTRY POINTS OF THE SCHOOL.
YOU'LL STILL HAVE ONE AT THE GEECHEE ROAD, ALONG WITH YOUR BUS ENTRANCE, UM, ON, UH, YOU KNOW, HUMAN YEOMANS.
CAN YOU PULL UP THE, UH, THE COLOR-CODED ONE WITH THE PRETEND WHAT THEY PROPOSED, THE THREE PROPOSALS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW WITH THE YEOMANS? NO, MA'AM THAT, WHAT RE WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH THIS CONNECTION CAME FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WHERE NO ONE WANTED ANY OF THOSE OTHER OPTIONS.
THEY HAD HANDWRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE EITHER LEFT AT THE MEETING OR MAILED IN FOLLOWING THAT JANUARY 8TH, 2020 MEETING.
THERE WAS A, UM, SO THE JANUARY 8TH, 2020 MEETING, AS I RECALL, MS. BRAGEN AND MS. FIELDS, AS I RECALL THE MOST POPULAR CAUSE I REMEMBER PEOPLE HAD STICKY NOTES AND WE WERE PUTTING STICKY NOTES, YOU KNOW, OR DOTS, DOTS ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE MOST POSITIVE.
AND I PUT A SWORN THAT THE ONE THAT GOT THE MOST DOTS WAS THROUGH A SHOPPING CENTER.
SO, UM, IS, IS NOT WHAT THE INFORMATION YOU RECEIVED, MS. BRAD, I DON'T THINK YOU WERE ON BOARD AT THAT TIME.
WERE YOU? NO, MA'AM I WAS NOT.
BUT THE OTHER COMPONENT WITH THIS IS WE, AGAIN, PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS LEFT AT THE MEETING, NO ONE WANTED THAT OPTION TO COME OUT.
THE OTHER COMPONENT IS WITH THE ASSIST, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAVE JOINT TASK FORCE IS THE VILLAGE LADIES ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER, TASK FORCE.
AND PART OF THAT IS THEIR FUTURE PLANS TO REDEVELOP THE CORRIDOR AND ALSO NOT WANTING THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
THE OTHER COMPONENT IS ALL THE LOCALS ALONG SUNSET AND MILLER DO NOT WANT THE ACCESS ROAD TO COME OUT ACROSS FROM SUNSET BOULEVARD INTERSECTION.
THEY ARE HIGHLY OPPOSED TO THAT.
IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT A LIMITED FUNDING SOURCE.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE BUDGET TO TAKE A ROAD THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND BUY IT.
AND ALSO IN LOOKING AT AGAIN, IF WE GO BACK TO WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE TRAVELING FROM AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALL THE, ALL THE KIDS COMING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IN GREEN ARE THE STUDENTS COMING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT INCLUDES A PORTION OF PORT ROYAL.
MR. STRIVEN JURY HAD A QUESTION NOW JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
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ALSO DID NOT LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER OPTIONS.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE PUBLIC ON THAT.
AND I WAS AT THE, I WAS AT BOTH, I'VE BEEN TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND, UM, AND TO THE PUBLIC MEETING, BOTH WHEN, UM, ROB MCPHEE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE ENGINEERING DIVISION.
AND, UM, THAT WAS THE UNANIMOUS DECISION, IS THAT NONE OF THE OPTIONS, BOTH FROM AN ENGINEERING AND A STANDPOINT TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT, UM, THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DID NOT LIKE THE OPTIONS.
UM, AND JUST TO REINFORCE WHAT YOU SAID, TRISHA, I'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK ALSO ON THAT ROUNDABOUT CONCEPT.
UM, BUT I, I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT, UM, BY JUST PUTTING A CROSSING GUARD IN THERE OR CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, ONLY CERTAIN TIMES THAT THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
SO I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY DEAL WITH IT, UH, BY PUTTING UP A PATROL CAR THERE OR SOMETHING AND JUST BLOCKING THAT OFF DURING THE, DURING THAT PARTICULAR TIME, I KIND OF, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELABORATE, UH, WALK OVER ANYTHING.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE IT THAT WAY.
CONCERNED ABOUT A SIZE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
LIKE JENNIFER'S GONNA NEED IT.
THIS IS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT, NOT WHAT THEY, YOU HAVE PROBABLY EXPERIENCED ON AT THE END OF SAM'S POINT, TURNING ONTO BRICKYARD.
THIS ONE, IF YOU'VE TRAVELED ON JOE FRAZIER HEADING TOWARDS THE LAUREL THEY HOUSING, UM, THAT INTERSECTION WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AT JOE FRAZIER, THAT IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
I HAVE A DUMB QUESTION, BUT WASN'T ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
IF THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ALL THIS TO BASICALLY TAKE SCHOOL TRAFFIC OFF OF THE MAIN ROADS, BECAUSE WHERE ELSE IS THIS GOING TO CONNECT OR ARE OTHER PEOPLE CONNECTING ON? I DON'T KNOW THE ROADS AS WELL ONTO MERIDIAN OFF OF SORRY.
LIKE, IS THIS GOING TO BECOME A THOROUGHFARE OR IS THIS STRICTLY TO BASICALLY PULL SCHOOL-RELATED TRAFFIC AND BUSES OUT OF THE WAY? IT, THE MAIN WAS TO GET A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, FROM THE MAIN CORRIDOR HERE OF SEATTLE AND PARKWAY, THE BENEFIT OF THIS ROAD IS OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
YES, IT CAN SERVE AND ASSIST SOME OF THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMEBODY LIVES RIGHT HERE IN HAZEL FARM AND THEY'RE COMING FROM DOWNTOWN BUFORD, THEY COULD TURN RIGHT ONTO MERIDIAN AND THEN MAKE A LEFT AND COME STRAIGHT ACROSS AND COME HOME AND NOT SIT AND WAIT TO TRY AND GET THROUGH THIS TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO THEN GET HOME.
UM, I MEAN, THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO GET SCHOOL TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD, BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT PUTTING WHAT'S WHAT COULD OSTENSIBLY BECOME A THOROUGHFARE ADJACENT TO A SCHOOL? YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS JUST ADDING A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC RIGHT.
IT'S A SCHOOL WHERE YOU'VE GOT IT SEPARATED BY THE ROAD, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, IF PEOPLE BECOME, IT JUST BECOMES A POPULAR CUT-THROUGH AND YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE NOW YOU JUST ADDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS IN BETWEEN THE FIELDS THERE THAT I CAN SEE.
SO I'M ALL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO WANT TO GET SCHOOL TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT RUNNING A TERRIBLE FARE THROUGH A SCHOOL.
ARE YOU REALLY? YOU AREN'T RUNNING FOR THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THE FOOTBALL FIELD IS SEPARATE FROM THE CAMP IN A LOT OF WAYS, YOU'RE RUNNING A THOROUGHFARE THROUGH A SCHOOL CAMPUS.
THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, MR. CAMPBELL, HAVE ANYBODY DURING THIS DISCUSSION, HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE STUDENT THAT DRIVE TO SCHOOL THEY'RE COMING FROM? I MISSED THE QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS DID ANYBODY TO DROP SCHOOL COMING FROM THE CITY NOW? AND I'VE GOT COSTS OF LADIES OUT? WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE ATTENDANCE MAP OF WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE COMING FROM.
SO THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES, BUT HAVE WE GONE OUT AND ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM? NO, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS OPEN FOR EVERYONE DURING THE, WITH THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
AND WHAT SHOULD I ASK IF THEY WILL SEND THEIR HANDS UP? AND I DON'T, UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW.
I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS AS CONFRONTATIONAL AT ALL, BUT I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, MEANING, CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE HOUSE, THE SURROUNDING VIEW FOR HIGH SCHOOL, THEY MAY NOT BE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE.
THE PEOPLE I'M ALREADY IN SUNSET MAY HAVE THE TIME THEY'RE NOT WORKING.
THEY CAN SHOW UP FOR THE MEETINGS.
IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE GATHERED PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK WE RUN
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SOME RISK OF UNDERREPRESENTING CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS.IS THAT THE ONLY WAY WE GET IT WAS ONE MEETING? WELL, AGAIN, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A VIRTUAL MEETINGS, SO IT RAN FOR 30, OVER 30 DAYS WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO ONLINE AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM A WHOLE VARIETY OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE ONE EVERYONE THAT HAD INTERNET.
I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY LIMITED.
I JUST, I JUST, IT WORRIES ME WHEN WE LIMIT THINGS A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE.
SO MS. BRAGG, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SOON AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SHARE WITH THIS LADY SILENT METAL.
I JUST HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO GO PARALLEL TO THE CURRENT PARKING LOT.
SO WHEN THE, WHEN THE STUDENTS AND FACULTY COME IN, UM, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A ROAD THAT CONTINUOUS PARALLEL TO THE CURRENT PARKING LOT.
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE LIKE A 45 DEGREE, TURN OFF A BJ TO GET INTO THE PARKING LOT.
IS THAT HOW I'M SAYING THAT? IT WOULD BE, YES.
IT WOULD BE A TURN TO GET INTO THE PARKING LOT.
THEY'D COME UP THERE AND THEN THEY'RE TURNING LEFT.
UM, WHAT ABOUT, I MEAN, SO WHAT DOES THAT ROAD LOOK LIKE? THE ONE THAT PARALLELS THE CURRENT PARKING LOT IS IS THAT ANOTHER ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THAT SIC MEETING WAS A LOSS OF PARKING PLACES.
HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU GONE ANY FURTHER WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MIGHT BE? AGAIN, WE ARE STARTING THE INITIAL SURVEYS NOW AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HAS TO BE GATHERED FIRST BEFORE WE CAN START ANY DESIGN, BUT THAT DANCE IS TO NOT DISRUPT THE CURRENT PARKING AND THE CURRENT STORE INTERNAL CIRCULATION OF THE SCHOOL.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT IS, UM, SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU CONTACT, UM, OSF AND THEY GET THEIR INPUT, UM, AND EXPLAIN YOU'RE USING AN ACRONYM THAT I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THE GROUP IS.
I APOLOGIZE, JESSE, I'M THE OPPOSITE LIKE SCHOOL FACILITIES, LIKE, ARE THEY INVOLVED WITH YOU IN DISCUSSING THE ENTRANCE AND THEY EXIT AND UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THIS.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT IT.
THEY MAY OR MAY NOT SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC ROAD AND WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE INTERNAL ACCESS FOR THE SCHOOL.
MIKE, ARE YOU STILL ON? IF, IF I CAN, UH, THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD I'M BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT PUBLIC.
UM, SO WHEN OSF IS GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW THE ENTRANCE DRIVE, ANY, ANY CHANGE TO AN INFERENCE HAS OSS OFFICER SCHOOL SOLELY IS THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY.
SO THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR PLANS.
I KNOW THE COUNTY BEFORE HAD RED IRON ON AS A CONSULTANT, UM, FOR THE OSF SUBMITTALS.
SO ONCE YOU TURN, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS WHERE DO YOU CHANGE FROM PUBLIC ROAD, PRIVATE ROAD? AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STACKING LAYING DISTANCES, UM, THINGS OF THAT.
AND ONCE YOU TOUCH THE ENTRANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONVERT TO ALL THE NEW REQUIREMENTS WHICH WILL MEET THE STACKING LANE REQUIREMENTS.
MEANING THE CURRENT ADDITIONAL, UH, LANES OR RECENTLY HAVE BEEN AT REQUIRING THREE LANES AT THE DROP-OFF IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE A MAP, BUT IT'S A MASSIVE, UH, PART OF YOUR DESIGN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EARLIER YOU GET IN FRONT OF OSF, THE BETTER OFF YOU ARE.
SO ONCE SOON AS YOU GOT PRELIMINARY DRAWINGS AND KIND OF HAVE YOUR WRITING WAYS ESTABLISHED, SO YOU CAN ESTABLISH WHAT'S PUBLIC ROAD AND WHAT'S PRIVATE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THAT PRIVATE BEING BELONGING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE AND REVIEW.
IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF REGULATORY, I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, I'VE ACTUALLY PULLED UP OUR GIS RIGHT NOW.
HUMANS DRIVE IS ACTUALLY STATE-OWNED ROAD.
CAROLYN DRIVE IS ACTUALLY A COUNTY ON ROAD AND GEECHEE ROAD IS ACTUALLY A COUNTY OWN DIRT ROAD.
UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL IN BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND, UM, THE, WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD MOVIE THEATER LADIES, ANY COMMENTS? YEAH.
YOU JUST KEEP GOING FORWARD UP THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE, THAT SCHOOL PROPERTY.
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SO, AND THEN ANY, ANY CHANGE TO THAT ENTRANCE ROAD GOES TO LSF, QUITE FRANKLY, GOES TO SE VIEW.AND T WE ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE PERSON AT STD OT FOR SCHOOL SAFETY.
I HAVE, I DID, I DID THAT PRIOR TO THE FIRST MEETING TO DISCUSS THE BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL.
I ACTUALLY CONTACTED THEM AND HE, HIM AND HE ACTUALLY WAS VERY FAVORABLE ON THIS ALTERNATIVE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS A MUCH NEEDED BENEFIT FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
WELL, THAT'S THE RULE IS WE'LL GO THROUGH AND ASK FOR THEIR SIGN OFF ON.
YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THAT, UM, HAVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS AS WELL FOR THE DROP-OFF IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL REQUIREMENTS.
WHAT WERE THEIR COMMENTS ON THE STACKING? THE DLT DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS BECAUSE THEIR CA HIS COMMENT WAS, WELL, YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THE INTERNAL SCHOOL CIRCULATION.
YOU'RE IMPROVING THE ACCESS TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE SCHOOL.
AND HE SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS FANTASTIC.
EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THIS OPTION.
NO, AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO IF YOU CAN DO IT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF GOING THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS WAS NOT TOUCHING, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TOUCH THE SCHOOL PROPERTY IN THE SCHOOL DRIVE.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE SCHOOL ENTRANCE, AND YES, IT WILL BE FINE.
WELL, WE DO NEED TO JUMP OFF TO ANOTHER MEETING, MS. FRAG, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE MS. FIELDS, EVERYBODY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, VERY DEAR TO MY HEART.
I LIVE RIGHT IN THIS AREA, NOT TOO FAR.
AND SO IT'S, UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE TRAFFIC DECREASE, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND OR SO WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THE CONSTITUENTS.
SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO COME BACK AND JUST FOCUS ON LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON A PRESENTATION
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OF 8% PROJECT.YOU HAVE A FIVE WOMEN'S BOARD FIRST PRESENTED.
WE'LL STAY WITH IT BECAUSE THIS 80% PROJECT IS HUGE AND I'M ALREADY STARTING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A, ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, YOU HAD SUGGESTED MAYBE SO.
SECONDLY, I THINK THAT IF IT WOULD BE AGREEABLE, IS THERE ONE THAT WOULD WORK REALLY WELL? WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY IS EXPLAIN THE CHANGE IN THE FORMAT.
THIS IS A MASSIVE CHANGE FROM THE WAY WE'VE DONE THE PAST.
YOU CAN TAKE THE BOOKS, THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU, AND THEN IF WE HAD TIME FOR ANOTHER MEETING, THEN WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL AND THEN WHATEVER WE DON'T FINISH, MAYBE BY FOUR 15 OR SO, 45 MINUTES OR 15 MINUTES.
30 MINUTES ON THIS MONEY ON THIS.
IF I CAN JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES.
SO, UM, THIS IS A COMPLETE CHANGE AND THIS CAME OUT OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
SO THE COMMENTS FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD AND ASK OF TRYING TO, UM, MAKE THIS MORE TRANSPARENT AS FAR AS THE USE OF FUNDS IN GENERAL, AND ALSO THE CONTINUANCE OF FUNDS.
SO THIS IS, UM, WAS DEVELOPED BASED ON THAT THIS IS A FORMAT THAT ACTUALLY CVRE HEARING BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT CHARLESTON COUNTY USES AND SOME OTHER COUNTIES IN ALABAMA, AS FAR AS THE FORMAT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL LET ROB TAKE OVER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROBERT GOOD AFTERNOON.
UM, COMPASSION TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UH, UH, FYI CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THAT'S INTENDED TO SUPPLEMENT THAT
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INFORMATION SECTIONUM, OUR PROJECT MANAGERS HAVE GONE OUT AND MET WITH DISTRICT STAFF, THE VARIOUS SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT STAFF AS WELL REVIEWING EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE RESTED.
UH, EACH PROJECT WAS INVESTIGATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD DEANS AT ALL TO ANALYZE, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF, WHEN WE GET INTO OUR NEXT STEP OR HARMING A COST ESTIMATE, THAT WE HAD ENOUGH DETAIL TO PROVIDE A ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME CHANGES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN NECESSARY IS NAMED IN THE TEN-YEAR PLAN.
AND WITH THAT, WE, UH, WE, WE PERFORMED OUR ESTIMATES.
UH, THERE WERE ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DESIGNS COMPLETED YET BECAUSE WE DID GET ON TOP OF A NUMBER EVEN TIGHTER, BUT WE'RE VERY VERSED IN PERFORMING ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ESTIMATES.
AND, UH, TH THIS BINDER IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS THAT INFORMATION CONTAINED IN IT.
BUT WHAT WE ALSO DID WAS WE PUT TOGETHER A PRIORITIZED, UH, LIST AND PRIORITIES THAT WE WENT WITH, THE WERE REQUIRED.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE REOCCURRING EXPENSES IN IT, AS WELL AS IF YOU RECALL LAST FALL, THE BOARD APPROVED THE FYI 20.38% FUNDS FOR THE WELL BRIDGE PROJECTS THAT NEED PAC AND REMEDIATION WORK AT BOTH THE ELEVATOR AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UH, SO WE, WHEN WE PUT IT IN A CATEGORY OF REQUIRED, FOLLOWED BY RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, AND THEN WE HAVE A CATEGORY CALLED BUSH, THE PUSHER, THE ONES THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT THIS TIME, AND WE'LL NEED TO BE A LATER PERIOD.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE LAST CATEGORY, WHICH WAS REMOVED AS YOU HEARD ME MENTIONED, AS WE WENT THROUGH AND WAS PERFORMING OUR SCOPE VALIDATION.
WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THROUGH WORK IS BEING INCORPORATED.
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH THE REC RANDOM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED NO LONGER NECESSARY AND WHERE WE FOUND THOSE, WE IDENTIFIED THEM AND CATEGORIZE THE MEMORY MOOD, AND THAT, THAT LIST AMOUNT OF OVERNIGHT MILLION DOLLARS, THE SCOPE ITEMS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE TO BE PUT INTO THAT REMOTE CATEGORY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE NEW FORMAT, ROBERT, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING MORE.
YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING? HE EXPLAINED HIS TASK.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT AS YOU SEE IT AS ORGANIZING, AND WE'LL HAVE ONE IS A LISTENING THAT ALPHABETICAL PERFECT OF THAT IS SO THAT YOU WANT TO, DESPITE A SPECIFIC SCHOOL AND WHAT MAYBE IDENTIFIED AS AN APRIL, THAT WILL PROJECT REVIT QUICKER THIS WAY HERE, THE SHEETS ALL HAVE BIG NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM, AS WELL AS ON THE WRITING BOARD OR A VERSION FOR THAT.
IF WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER AND WE WANTED TO REVISE ONE OF THESE SHEETS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT AND POP THAT OLD SHEET OUT, AND THEN CERTAINLY NEW ONES, BUT ALSO ON THIS TAB HERE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE LATIN ALIGN THEM THOSE LINE NUMBERS ARE REFERENCES, AND THOSE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON TAB TWO HAS THE INFORMATION ORGANIZED AND PRIORITIZE, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THIS TOP, THE FIRST ONES ARE THE REQUIRED, FOLLOWED BY RECOMMENDED AND RU AND PAGE 12.
I'D PAUSE, RARE AND DRAW ATTENTION TO THE, THE BLACK BOLD LINE, WHICH YOU SEE IN THE PAGE THERE.
WHAT THAT'S INDICATING IS, UM, A TARGETS THAT WE'LL TOGETHER TO EVENTUALLY ARRIVE AT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF BLOOD RIGHT NOW, WHERE THAT LIGHT IS PUT THROUGH.
YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE REQUIRED, UH, PROJECTS ARE ON 3 MILLION, $688,000 IN CHANGE, THE RECOMMENDED RISK, OR AS UP TO JUST UNDER $22 MILLION.
SO YOU PUT THOSE TWO FIGURES TOGETHER.
IT'S SAYING THAT IT'S 25.6 MILLION.
WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF A FIGURE CLOSER TO THE $20 MILLION RANGE.
BUT AS I TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS NEW FORMAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS BELOW THAT BLACK LINE.
AND IF YOU FLIP THE PAGE TO PAGE 13, YOU'LL SEE A BOLD RED LINE THAT BOLD RED LINE IS THE DIFFERENTIATOR BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE BEING PUSHED THAT ARE FALL BELOW IT.
BUT THOSE THAT ARE ABOVE IT, THAT IS, UH, WHERE THIS NEW FORMAT IS COMING INTO PLAY THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING.
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WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OPERATION COMMITTEE WORK WITH THE BOARD, ESTABLISH A BUDGET FOR THE FYI 20, 23, 8% PROJECTS.AND THEN BY HAVING THIS LINE IN THERE, IT'LL HELP US WITH TRANSPARENCY, AS WELL AS WATCHING GLEE, PUTTING INTO PLACE, THE NEXT TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUBLISH IT THAT ARE STILL LISTED AS RECOMMENDED.
IF YOU REMEMBER, MOST OF OUR, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE A 5% CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY, AND OFTEN AT THE END OF A PROJECT, WE HAVE PHONES THAT RE RETURN A SAVINGS WHEN THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS NEW FORMAT, AND THIS IS WHAT CHARLESTON DOES IS THEY JUST, THEY KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE.
SO THAT AS WE'VE COBBLED TOGETHER, A NEW WHOLE BUNCH FROM SAVINGS, UH, FROM THE PROJECT ABOVE IT, WE CAN APPLY THEM TO THIS.
AND THE REASON THAT THE, THE ASSET PROTECTION OR PRESERVATION ITEMS ARE LISTED ON TOP AT THAT OF ANY FLOORING, THOSE ARE OUT THERE FOR THAT.
NOW, AS WE GET FUNDS, WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY ADDRESS ALL $2 MILLION OF ONE OF THOSE NEEDS, BUT THESE ARE OFTEN EASY ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS NEAR THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THAT THEY HAD A POT OF MONEY, MAY BE A FIGURE THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE FFNE REPLACEMENT NEEDS.
IT'S EASY TO GO INTO THAT LIST, ACQUIRE THOSE ITEMS AND MOVE FORWARD.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO THAT I I'M HOPING TO ESTABLISH BY THIS, AND ALSO BY THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT IS TO FIND THE TEAM.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR SET AMOUNT IS $20 MILLION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE HAVE $20 MILLION PLUS WORTH OF NEED.
YOU LOOK AT FURNITURE IS THAT LEVEL THAT WE HAD $2 MILLION.
WELL, WE SHARE OUR FURNITURE, UM, UH, LAST VISIT AS THE REPLACEMENT BUDGET IN THE APPENDIX.
SO WE'VE BEEN SPENDING ABOUT $200,000 A YEAR ON FURNITURE PLACEMENTS AT THAT RATE, OUR REPLACEMENT CYCLE IS EVERY 120 121 YEARS.
SO A $2 MILLION A YEAR FURNITURE BUDGET IS ACTUALLY REPLACING BUDGET FURNITURE EVERY 15 YEARS NOW.
WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED TO BE KNOWN AS A YEAR, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE THAT MEETING.
AND ALSO WE'VE SHOWN WHAT WOULD BE A 30 YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE.
SO IF YOU GO TO A 30 OR REPLACEMENT CYCLE ON FURNITURE, IT'S A MAVEN TO A THEATER, OR YOU LOOK AT RIGHT AT THE TOP, THIS IS THE FURNITURE ASSESSMENT, AS FAR AS WHERE NEEDS OUR COSTS ARE PER SCHOOL YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE IS $600,000.
SO YOU SEE WE'RE SPENDING $200,000 A YEAR ON FURNITURE REPLACEMENT.
WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY INCOME AT ALL.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MONEY'S AVAILABLE.
WE HAVE A NEED THERE TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF MY GOAL HERE IS TO HELP BIND THE NEED A LITTLE BETTER AS WELL, DEFINE WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE DETAILS.
UH, WE'LL MOVE THEM ALONG UNDER TAB THREE.
THIS IS THE SECTION THAT WILL CONTAIN A LOT OF THE ROAR, MEAT AND POTATOES, THE, THE, THE SCOPE DETAILS THAT WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR WILLY LOGS.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE SCOPE.
PHOTOS ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
WHEN YOU GET THAT LINE ITEM THAT SAYS, I NEED TO ADD SOME EGRESS STEPS FROM ONE OF THE BUILDINGS DOWN THE HILL, UNTIL YOU SEE THE HILL, YOU REALIZE WE'RE TALKING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STEPS AND A FLIGHT OF STAIRS THAT HELPS US IMMENSELY IN ARRIVING AT THE CORRECT BUDGET NUMBERS.
UH, ROBERT ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TAB FOUR, TAB FIVE IS BACK THERE AS WELL.
UH, THAT'S JUST THE APPENDIX, AS IT RELATES TO THE DISTRICT MAINTENANCE VEHICLE INFORMATION.
UH, THE OTHER APPLICATION THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THE TIMING ON THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, AND
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MATTER OF FACT, CHARLESTON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS THEIR BOARD BRIEFING ON TUESDAY NIGHT OF THIS WEEK.AND LIKE ROBERT MENTIONED ELSEWHERE, WE'VE DONE THIS SAME EXERCISE WITH OTHER DISTRICTS UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST.
AND BY HAVING THIS TYPE OF FORMAT GIVES MORE DETAIL, BUT IT ALSO HELPS TO PUT SOME OF THE ITEMS IN PERSPECTIVE, AS ROBERT SAYS, THEY'RE DEFINITELY LARGER NEEDS OF THIS DISTRICT HAS.
UH, BUT THE FUNDS THAT WILL BE RECEIVED WILL BE PUT TO GOOD USE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS TRYING TO DO IS DEMONSTRATE WHAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, IS, UH, HELPFUL, I THINK TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WHEN HE STIFLED BUDGETS, IT REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE STICK WITHIN THE BUDGETS THAT WHILE WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXTRA STEP OF THOSE ROUGH ORDER COSTS, MAGNITUDE BEING PERFORMED BY CVRE ERIE TO HELP VALIDATE SOME OF THE PREVIOUS FIGURES.
AND IN SOME CASES ADJUST THEM, UH, BY ADJUSTING THEM THAT WE THINK VERY COMFORTABLY THAT WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THE SCOPE AS ORIGINALLY INDEPENDENT.
BUT IT MEANT THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE RUN INTO THE ONE THAT'S RUNNING OVER BUDGET, WE WOULD LOOK TO CONTROL THE BUDGET BY MODIFYING THE SCOPE, UH, TO THE EXTENT REQUIRED TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET THIS WAY, HERE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BENCH THE SCOUTS AND THEN, UH, FUNDS THAT WILL BE RETURNED TO SAVINGS AND THEN APPLY TO OTHER PROJECTS.
SO MANY FACILITIES BENEFIT FROM THESE FUNDS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND THEN EVENTUALLY, UH, WHEN WE GET BACK TOGETHER, IF YOU GO BACK TO HAVE TO, THAT'S THE PRIORITIZED LIST THAT IS GOTTEN BOYD BLACK LINE NET 25 MILLION, 600,000, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SHEET ALREADY BUILT THAT WE CAN BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE IN THIS TOP SECTION WE'LL HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL PULL THESE FIGURES OFF, AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW THE FIGURES MOVE AND GET DOWN TO THAT FIGURE CLOSER TO 20 MILLION.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE PULL OFF FROM THE TOP SECTION, WE WOULD LIKELY APPLY TO THE CENTER SECTION THAT'S THAT BE BELOW THE BLACK, ABOVE THE RED.
AND WE WOULD LIKELY MOVE A FEW FROM THE CURRENT BELOW THE BLACK, ABOVE THE RED TO THE PUSH, FURTHER SECTIONS OF THAT.
NOW, ONCE AGAIN, ONCE WE GET BEYOND A REASONABLE FIGURE, THERE'S NO NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED, UH, ABOVE THE RED LINE, UH, BASIS.
AND THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE FORMAT, THE BOOK, TURN IT BACK OVER TO MADAM CHAIR OR DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS.
SO IF IT SAYS 2014 PRINCIPLE NUMBER FIVE HIGH SCHOOL HPAC 2012, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THE PRINCIPAL WANTED DONE IN 2012.
ARE WE, THEY SUBMITTED EVERY YEAR.
WE ASKED THE PRINCIPALS FOR ITEMS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, AND THAT WAS AN ITEM THE PRINCIPAL REQUESTED BACK IN Q2.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF IT DOESN'T MAKE THE LIST, EACH TIME EITHER GETS DELETED OR BUSH, IT'S GOTTEN PUSHED AND PUSHED.
AND IS THERE ANY PROCESS WE GO BACK AND SAY, DL STILL NEED THIS? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SPOKE OF EARLIER THAT WHEN WE BEGAN THIS EXERCISE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, OUR PROJECT MANAGERS WENT OUT INTO THE FIELD.
WE VAT, WE MET UP WITH PRINCIPALS AND RECEIVED THEIR INPUT AGAIN.
UH, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION WAS BROUGHT BACK IN FOR PREPARATION OF THIS MATERIAL, AS WELL AS LIKE MAINTENANCE.
AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ONE DOESN'T HAVE A DATE.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, IN TERMS OF PRIORITY, DO YOU GIVE MORE WEIGHT TO SOMETHING THAT A MAINTENANCE CREW SAID, HEY, WE THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE VERSUS THE PRINCIPALS AND THE WEIGHTS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, IS THERE A SORT OF A, WELL, IT'S MORE, THE CATEGORY IS YOU'LL NOTICE, UM, IN A CATEGORY WHERE IT'S EITHER LIFE-SAFETY ACADEMIC SUPPORT, ASSET REJECTION, STANDARDIZATION EQUITY, OR WE DO GIVE MORE PRIORITY TO IS LIFE SAFETY AND ASSET.
UM, I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL OF THESE AS ROBERT KNOWS, AND THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A REALLY NICE IMPROVEMENT.
AND I THINK YOU ALREADY ANTICIPATE WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO, WHICH WAS GET THAT BLACK LINE BACK TO 20 MILLION.
THAT'S OUR PLAN TO BRING TO THE NEXT MEETING.
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WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT OF THE FORMAT, AND NOW THIS IS GOING, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO BRING AND GIVE US ANY INPUT.ONCE YOU GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, IF THERE'S THINGS Y'ALL WANT MOVES, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW.
OTHERWISE WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT ARE RECOMMENDED TO GET TO 20 MILLION.
AND THE OTHER THING I HAVE A SLIGHT HESITANCY ABOUT IS IF THERE ARE SAVINGS WHERE WE DON'T USE CONTINGENCY, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT NEEDS TO BE ROLLED INTO THE, TO THE CURRENT YEAR'S, UM, 8%.
SO I'M NOT SURE WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY START MOVING DOWN BELOW THE LINES.
UM, WHAT WERE THE, WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING ON HOW THIS WORKS IS YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE $20 MILLION WITH $20 MILLION WITH THE FUNDS, BUT YOUR PROJECT LISTS THAT GOING TO IMPROVE IS GOING TO, UM, SAY I HAD 25 BEING DONE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY ALLOTTED 20 MILLION.
WE DO THE 20000001ST, ANY MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THAT MOVES DOWN TO THE NEXT ROW OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT 25.
AND SO THAT'S BELOW THAT BLACK LINE, ONCE ANY CONTINGENCY MONEY THAT'S LEFT OVER WOULD GO TO THAT PROJECT LIST RIGHT BELOW IT AND WILL NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PRODUCTS THAT WE RUN OUT OF MONEY.
SO THE IDEA HERE, THE CONCEPT IS TO SPEND THE FULL 20 MINUTES, THAT IS THE CRIME, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT SHOWED YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE QUITE TYPICALLY ON OUR PROJECTS, WE GET ABOUT 3% BACK.
SO WE DO THE PROJECTS AS STANDARD, RIGHT? WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT FIRST ROUND, WE'RE GOING TO GET 3% OF THAT BACK.
WELL, YOU CAN JUST, THAT'S HOW IT KIND OF WORKS.
THE QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU DO THAT 3% IS BACK? ONE OPTION IS, YOU KNOW, IS TO PUT IT BACK.
BUT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS TO SPEND IT ON THE NEXT ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT AS A BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THAT POLICY.
JUST THE POLICY DOESN'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN IT, BUT WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT LATER.
UM, SO I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHEN I WAS LOOKING THIS OVER ONLINE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PAPER WAS SO MUCH EASIER.
UM, BUT I WAS TRYING TO RECONCILE THIS WITH THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THE NUMBERS ARE WAY DIFFERENT.
AND I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE WAS SOME THINGS ON THIS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR TEN-YEAR PLAN.
AND SO I'M WONDERING WHICH ONE IS THE BIBLE.
THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BIBLE, BUT FOR INSTANCE TO BUSKEY REQUIRED PARKING LOT 60,000.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON HERE UNDER AN HOUR.
I MIGHT NOT BE LIVING IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT IF YOU'RE 22, BUT IT IS ON HERE.
SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT IS OCCURRED SINCE WE DEVELOPED THIS LIST.
SO WE START WORKING ON IT IN THE FALL.
SO YOU DID NOT GET IT, BUT YOU CAN SAY WE WE'VE PROBABLY PULLED THAT LIST.
WE HAVE A DATABASE THAT WE KEEP ALL THE INFORMATION FROM, AND WE PULLED THAT OFF THE DATABASE PROBABLY IN DECEMBER.
AND SO THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE DECEMBER.
I'LL GIVE YOU A REASON WHY THAT THE FUSTY PARKING LOT IS ADDED JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, ACTUALLY THE COUNTY IS THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAVING ROADS AND THEY ASKED US IF YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET STUFF ON THE FUSSY.
THEY ASKED US IF, WHILE THEY'RE THERE, DO YOU WANT US TO PAY YOUR PARKING LOT? AND MY ANSWER IS PLEASE, BUT I NEED THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE REASON WHY I KIND OF PUT THAT AS REQUIRED IS THAT AS A TIME SENSITIVE ITEM, WE, WE NEED THAT APPROVED SO THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR.
THEY'LL NEVER GET A PRICE AS GOOD AS YEAH.
THEY SAID WHY WE'RE PAVING ROADS, WE'LL PAY YOUR PARKING LOT IF YOU WANT.
SO THIS LOOKS MORE UP-TO-DATE YES.
THIS IS DEFINITELY THE MORE UP TO DATE.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD WAS JUST ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, LIKE DISPARITY IN THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FROM WHEN THESE NUMBERS UNDER, YOU KNOW, AS COMPARED TO THESE NUMBERS, COMPARED TO WHAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
I WISH I HAD NOT PRIOR TO YOU GIVING THIS EXPLANATION, CAUSE IT TOOK SOME TIME, BUT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
SO WHY IS DIFFERENCES IN SO MANY OF THESE, I'D SAY THIS WAS DEVELOPED BY IN-HOUSE STAFF AND SOME OF THESE NUMBERS MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS OLD THAT HAVE JUST HAD INFLATION FACTORS PUT ONTO THEM.
AND THEY'VE BEEN PUSHED FORWARD ON THE TEN-YEAR PLAN.
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WHEN AN ITEM COMES INTO THE PLAN, LIKE THIS IS LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE OF 2012.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ITEM WAS.
A PRINCIPAL REQUESTED 2012 BACK ON THAT REQUEST WAS MADE THAT WAS LOOKED AT AS A COST ESTIMATE AND PUT IN AN INFLATION FACTOR IS USED EVERY YEAR.
IT GETS PUSHED UNTIL A COMES INTO THIS LIST.
AND ON TOP OF THAT CVRE HERE, HE HAS ANOTHER GROUP OF ESTIMATES THAT IN THE ESTIMATOR THIS, WHILE THEY READ IT OR ESTIMATES, FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE WERE DONE BY IN-HOUSE STAFF.
THIS IS DONE BY CBR A YEAR WITH THE PROJECT MANAGERS GOING IN BLIND WRONG, LOOKING AT WHAT THAT PROMISE DETAIL WITH THE VERSION OF ESTIMATES THAT WE PERFORM, I FEEL THAN WHAT THE DISTRICT STAFF USED AS ROBERT SAYS, SOME OF THEM GO BACK SO MANY YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT EXAMPLE I GAVE ON THE BREAST STEPS THAT ARE NEEDED DOWN THAT HILL.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE.
I THINK WHERE BY HAVING THAT PHOTO AND AS COMMANDERS, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD FIGURE.
I FEEL FOR THAT THAT'S SPOKEN UP RIGHT? UM, NETWORK ELECTRONICS.
IT'S JUMPED OUT AT ME BECAUSE IT'S AN ADDITION IT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT IT'S IN HERE AND THAT'S $5 MILLION.
IS THAT SOMETHING TECHNOLOGY? SO EVERY YEAR WE ASK, SO EVERY YEAR AS A TECHNOLOGY TO UPDATE THEIR ITEM AND THAT'S THE UPDATE, I THINK THEY HAVE IPADS AND OTHER THINGS I PADS GOT PAID FOR WITH SR NETWORK ELECTRONICS.
UM,
SO IS THIS HARRIS MONEY? CAN THIS TAKE CARE OF THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF THE 20 MILLION? I THINK THE CARES ACT MONEY ITSELF.
WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IF SOME REASON THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
IF WE GET A REFUND, IT COMES BACK.
WELL, IF SOME, SOMEHOW HAVE MONEY COMES BACK, THAT COULD BE PUT BACK IN 8%, THEN YOU JUST MOVED THE LINE.
NOW, UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING THAT TANYA'S TALKING ABOUT THAT MAYBE A REFUNDED ITEM IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
THAT JUST MEANS WE'LL JUST MOVE THE LINE.
AND WE YOKE AND THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ALREADY APPROVED OR HAS INPUT AND SAY ON WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE BELOW THE LINE.
SO YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THEM.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT'S THE THEORY IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHEN, WHEN AN ADDITIONAL MONEY IS AVAILABLE, EITHER THROUGH PROJECT CONTINGENCY OR WHATEVER SOURCE, YOU JUST KEEP MOVING DOWN.
AND THAT'S MY ISSUE IS THE TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I CAN FORECAST, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FORECAST TECHNOLOGY.
SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FORECAST A REFRESH SCHEDULE AND IT'S NORMALLY ONE-THIRD THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, AND THAT'S COULD BE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT IT'S GOING TO BE, HAVE TO BE EDITED AND JUST $20 MILLION.
AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROJECT THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL IN TECHNOLOGY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE SO THAT WE DON'T GET A SURPRISE.
WHY DON'T I INVITE MORE THE NEXT WEEK? THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION FOR HIM.
KEY SECOND THING YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ME ABOUT CLOSING OR HOW QUICKLY WE CLOSE OUT.
SO THAT'S STILL AN ISSUE YEARS AGO.
IT'S UNSATISFACTORILY WHICH I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED BEFORE.
AND I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT AS IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE OUT TO BE ABLE TO PUSH FUNDS INTO AN EXISTING, UH, 8% YEAR.
THAT MEANS THAT SEEMS TO BE YOU'RE CLOSING OUT EVERY YEAR.
NO, THIS, THIS WOULD STILL TAKE TWO TO THREE YEARS TO CLOSE OUT.
WHAT ELSE YOU CAN SEE THAT I HAVE, UH, THAT DOESN'T PROMISE I JOINED FINANCE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING TO THAT PRESENTATION.
OF COURSE, THIS FORMAT HERE AS WELL.
SO I NEED TO YOUR DESIRE THERE TO CLOSE OUT TRUST.
SO, HEY, I LIKE YOUR POINT, UH, GROW BETTER WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY
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STILL THINK WE DON'T HAVE USABLE TECHNOLOGY.I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH BECAUSE I ALREADY GOT LIKE PRINTOUTS OUT ALL THE PLUGS WE'VE EVER USED, BUT GOING BACK TO THE MASI BUILDING SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO I'M LOOKING, THE EXERCISE IS FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AND WIGGLE THINGS AROUND RIGHT.
SO PART OF A NICE PICTURE IS PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT THE REASON THIS IS REQUIRED IS BECAUSE THERE'S A TRUCK OF CONCRETE OR SOMETHING ALREADY ON THE BUS.
LIKE I LOOKED AT MOSSY CREEK CONVERTING SOMETHING TO A CLASSROOM.
AND I SAY, YEAH, THAT'S WEIRD.
CAUSE DON'T, THEY'RE NOT AT CAPACITY.
LIKE WHY? SO THAT TO ME IS SOME OF THESE THINGS, THE WHY IS AN ISSUE? WELL, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS, AS YOU ASKED THEM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THIS IS MAY SIT DOWN.
WE LOOK AT THESE KIND OF GET THE HANDLE ON THOSE AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL GO THROUGH WHAT WE KNOW.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR.
IT WAS PROCESS ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUAL PROJECT INFORMATION, WHICH I MIGHT IS VERY HELPFUL.
AND THE BETTER WE GET, THE MORE DEFINED SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL FROM THIS, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST ON THAT.
THIS IS WHY THIS IS WHY WOULD WE BE ASKING THE WHY YOUR PROGRAM MANAGERS HAVE ALREADY GONE TO BOSTON ELEMENTARY OR HE MET HER AND TALKED TO THE PRINCIPAL? OR YOU HAVE, WHY IS IT, WHY AREN'T THEY, THE ONES YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE NOT AT CAPACITY.
WHY DO YOU NEED THIS CLASSROOM? IS IT A SPECIAL ED CLUSTER IS AT AN ARTS.
SO THE ANSWER OF MOSSY OAKS IS EXACTLY THAT THEY DID MOVE ON.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKED AT IT AND I PULLED IT ASSIGNED SORT OF AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
IF WE EVER HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PROGRAM CAPACITY VERSUS BUILDING THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THEY'RE HAVING THAT BUILDING, THEY DID GAIN SOME SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENTS, UM, WHICH ALSO REQUIRED A CENTURY WHEN THEY ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICT PROGRAMS THAT TAKE UP ADDITIONAL SPACE.
SO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LAY OUT ALL THE TEACHERS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED, RIGHT, THAT'S A GOOD REASON.
SO I STAYED THAT ONE FOR ANOTHER, WHENEVER YOU WANT THAT ROBERT MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SEE THOSE GETTING BETTER OVER TIME.
WE HAD OUR IN THE DETAIL SHEETS BACK HERE AS KEY POINTS.
SO THAT IT'S MORE OBVIOUS THAT, HEY, IF WE'VE GOT THIS SUMMER, THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE LIST.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE OF THE, THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT.
SO WE'RE ONE MINUTE OVER TIME.
THE ONLY THING WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO THERE'S TWO WAYS I SEE WE CAN DO THIS.
UM, WE CAN EITHER GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.
YOU'LL ASK THE ONES YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, OR WE COULD ACTUALLY JUST GO THROUGH EACH ONE CAUSE IT'LL MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY.
I WOULD IMAGINE WE'RE GETTING OUR, AT LEAST THOSE THAT ARE IN THE TOP 20 MILLION, WE BE GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE AND JUST DO A QUICK POLL ON THAT LINE SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, I WOULD PREFER A LINE BY LINE ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, THIS PROCESS AT YOUR FIRST TIME, I KNOW MR. SMITH.
IT'S NOT YOUR FIRST TIME MR. SMITH, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THEN, CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND PUT ANY DETAILS ON, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY IT REFRAME ALL THESE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO IMPROVE FOR YEARS.
THIS IS A PRETTY BIG CHANGE IN ITS OWN.
THE FIRST STEP WAS TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.
AND I THINK MR. AMATEUR LAST DONE THIS A LOT.
THERE'S SOME SAYS IT MAKES SENSE, LIKE THE CAVEAT SHARE A BOARD.
SO WHEN WE SCHEDULE AT THE END OF THE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE CLOSE, WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK AND THE PRO AND WHAT WE WILL DO TO GO THROUGH THAT LINE BY LINE ITEM OF THE, UP TO
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20 MILLION.AND IF YOU BELOW THAT LINE TO, IN CASE THINGS COULD BE MOVED UP.
I THINK JUST ACTUALLY THIS IS, IT'S LIKE IF YOU COULD CLICK ON MY THOSE LINES, SO THANK YOU FOR RECONCILING THIS AND I HAVE A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING NOW.
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CONSTRUCTION UPDATE.AND I HAVE ASKED MR. GORDON FOR A, UM, A SALE YET POINTS, UM, UH, KIND OF A BRIEF CONSTRUCTION UPDATE.
WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE BLOCK MEETING.
WE ALSO NOTICED THE GROUP PRESENTED TO THE FULL BOARD ONCE WE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE IT.
UH, I LIKE THE BIRTHDAY WITH THE TYPE OF UPDATE YOU REQUESTED AS A LIGHTNING ROUND.
UM, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S RECEIVED THE RECORD AS WELL AS THE TAGS FOR THE PROJECT CONTINGENCY LAW CONTAINED INSIDE THE REPORT IS UPDATES ON THREE ACTIVE BRET RANDOM PROJECTS, AS WELL AS 32 ACTIVE 8% CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UH, THOSE INFORMATION FOR THE REFERENDUM PROJECTS, DIDN'T GO TO THE CLOCK EARLIER THIS MONTH, THE CLOCK DOES NOT RECEIVE THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE PERCENT.
UM, I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
UH, ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE GRAZED TRAFFIC LIGHTS WITH THE CAVEAT OF THE TWO PROJECTS.
THOSE TWO PROJECTS HAD ISLANDS WITH CREATIVE ARTS AS WELL AS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AT LEAST THOSE CALLS ARE PART OF A HUB THAT IS SERVED FROM THE SCHOOLS ADJACENT, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, FOR CREATIVE ARTS, THE HUB THERE IS NET ISLAND OR METRICS FOR BLOCKING AND MCCRACKEN.
THE REASON WE PUT Y'ALL EYES ON THOSE PROJECTS IS WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION IN SPECIALISTS WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WILL BE CALLING.
UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, YOU KNOW, COVID CRISIS, WE'VE GOT AN ABBREVIATED SUMMER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THE DISTRICT UP IN THE BEST POSITION FOR SUCCESS, UM, FOR THE SUMMER PROJECTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST LOOKING AT SOME POSSIBILITIES TO PERHAPS DO A LITTLE RELIEF OF THE PRESSURE AND POST-TRAUMATIC PORTION OF THIS WORK.
SO WE'LL BUILD BEYOND THE SUMMER THIS WAY HERE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON THE OTHER TWOS AND GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED THE, UH, OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THE REPORT, UH, PERTAIN TO OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO UNDER GMP PRICE PROPOSALS.
THAT'S THE WORD HIGH SCHOOL, THE RENOVATIONS THERE, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL REPLACEMENT AT ROBERT SMALLS, INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY, BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE STILL GREEN, BUT THOSE, THOSE BUDGETS ARE VERY TIGHT FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION.
I HOPE YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT A FEW TIMES AND THEY STILL REMAIN TIGHT.
WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE WORK SESSIONS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE NEXT WEEK THAT WE'LL BE PERFORMING THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW.
THEN WE CAMERA THAT OUR ABILITIES TO STAY WITHIN THOSE BUDGETS.
UM, PROJECT CONTINGENCY LOG HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THE ACTIVITY, UH, THAT TOOK PLACE IN MARCH THAT MOST OF THAT ACTIVITY COME FROM THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE USE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BACK ON MARCH 2ND, THAT WAS THE FIGURE OF $9,590,000.
ALL OF THOSE USERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND PUT IN THAT TRACKING SHEET AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST A UPDATE ON THE CASHFLOW CASHFLOW IS ALWAYS A GOOD MEASUREMENT TOOLS TO SEE HOW YOU'RE PROGRESSING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORECAST FIGURE FOR THE END OF MARCH, WE WERE FORECAST IN SPENDING $56 MILLION THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.
OUR ACTUAL SPENT THROUGH THE END OF MARCH WAS 52.3, 1 MILLION.
AND MY BOOK SETS WHERE, WHERE YOU WANT TO TRACK, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET OVER THAT CURVE.
CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE OTHER CONCERNS THAT COME INTO PLAY, BUT BEING RIGHT UNDERNEATH OF HIS REGULAR SWEET SPOT, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY APPROVED BOTH BUDGET AND SCHEDULE.
IT'S MORE SCHEDULED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF A SCHEDULE, THERE COULD BE SOME SMALL COSTS, GENERAL, GENERAL CONDITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD, UH, PERHAPS
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THEY COME INTO PLAY, BUT I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE AMPLE FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT.AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I SAW THE BUDGET REALLY TIGHT AND DOES THAT ON THERE, THAT BASICALLY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE DESIGN, PROBABLY BE THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE LET THE SCHOOL DREAM BIG.
WE HAD TO BRING THEM DOWN TO EARTH A LITTLE BIT.
SO THAT'S JUST IN GENERAL, THE ADE AND THE PRINCIPAL THAT'S WHO WE WOULD MEET WITH AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR WISHLIST WAS NOT.
AND WE'LL PUT THAT DOWN AND IT ENDED UP BEING A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
AND YOU GOT TO GET PAST THIS, THE GENERAL, BECAUSE I HAD A SENSE THAT WHEN ALL THIS IS DONE, THIS HAS BECOME A PART OF IT.
EVERYONE'S HAD THE SAME THING FOR HIGHS, YOU KNOW, FOR WALLET.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WELL, WHERE WE SET THE STANDARD OF THE TWO SQUARE FEET OR STUDENTS AND ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET, I THINK THEY STARTED OFF ASKING FOR LIKE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT WEIGHT ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S GOT TO COME THAT THEY WON'T BE ANY HIGHER THAN 3000.
THAT'S OUR STANDARD NOW THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO KIND OF, LEVEL-SET BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND I'M USING THAT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT FROM A GENTLEMAN SPEAKING, WHEN YOU START SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU'VE GOT
DO WE EVER SEE WHAT THEY STARTED WITH WHAT THEY ENDED UP WITH OR ATTACHED TO YOU UNLESS YOU WENT TO ALL THOSE MEETINGS OR ROBERT SMALLS GIVING ALONG THE WAY.
AND SO YOU MAY SEE HOW THAT DESIGN'S EVOLVING AS YOU GO, BUT A SMALLER JOB LIKE THIS WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PUBLIC
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE SAYING THAT SCALE.
IF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, WE'RE NOT TO HAVE THE SAME ACADEMY AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE TRYING, WE'RE SCALING THEM BACK TO BE EQUITABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMES THROUGH.
AND ROBERT SMALL ROBERT ROBERT SMALLS IS GOING TO BE OUR PLACE AND HOPE.
I MEAN, IT'S THE BIGGEST PROJECT IT'S GOT TO COME IN ON TIME AND ON BUDGET.
NOW THE DOCUMENT VAN IS CONTROLLING ME WHEN SHE HAS BEEN SELLING THE FOLKS AND SHE'S BEEN DOWN, YOU DON'T NEED AN OFFICE.
YOU SAY, NO, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE IN A GYM, YOU STAY IN THE GYM, YOU DON'T NEED AN OFFICE FOR THAT KIND OF, SHE IS SHE SITTING UP, WHICH TELLS ME THAT SHE IS BEING VERY HARD AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE REQUIRED ITEMS, PROGRAMS BASED IN THAT BUDGET.
AND SHE UNDERSTAND, BUT I TOLD HER DON'T LOSE THE VISION.
BE SURE THAT THEY, WHEN THEY DO THEIR PLANNING, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOW, JUST MAKING SURE WHEN YOU TALK TO THE ARCHITECTS, THAT THERE IS SOME WAY IN THE FUTURE TO ADD THAT DON'T LOSE THE REQUIREMENT.
BUT WE HAVE TO COME IN ON TIME AND ON BUDGET ON THAT SCHOOL.
AND I KNOW IT'S LIKE, BUT THAT'S NUMBER ONE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME ART THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND PLANNING IT'S GORGEOUS.
IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU LAND FOR IT, JUST LIKE YOU PLAN FOR THE RIVER RIDGE EDITION.
AND THEN THE RIVER WILL DISTRIBUTE WAS THERE WAS A, AT LEAST THE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD EXPAND.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY REAL QUESTION BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING RIGHT.
WELL, A LOT OF THE STUFF WE'RE DOING, BUT HONESTLY, OR ADULTS.
SO, I MEAN, EXAMPLE MAYBE NEURO, I DON'T THINK IT IS, BUT YOU MIGHT SAY IT'S ADULTS OR WORDS THAT GET ME INTO THE JOB.
COME BACK, YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
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IT ON MIRRORS.I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S KIND OF, I WAS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH ROB THAT'S AS PROJECT MANAGERS.
HAVE WE BEEN, THAT'S HOW WE MADE THE MONEY.
NOW ACCOUNTANTS LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO MANAGE MONEY THAN IT'S PROJECT WE MANAGE.
IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL VISION.
UM, WHEN'S THE DATE FOR THE NEXT COMMUNITY? WE JUST, WELL, WE JUST HAD ONE WITH THE ROBERT SMALLS.
UM, WE TRIED THE RUBBER'S ALUMNI GROUP.
WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY DO ANOTHER ROBERT SMALLS ALUMNI GROUP BECAUSE WE DID NOT GET A REAL GREAT TURNOUT.
AND THEY GAVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE TO TALK TO.
AND ACTUALLY MR. CAMPBELL GAVE ME A SUGGESTION OF SOMEONE ELSE TO TALK TO.
VANS GOT MAD INFORMATION AND SHE'S REACHING OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE DOING ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING, MAYBE A FINAL LINE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES, WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN HIS SUPERINTENDENTS REPORT, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES.
I DO TRY AND GET INTO THE ANNOUNCING THINGS.
SO CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION THEN ABOUT THE CASHFLOW HE GOT REAL CLOSE AND THEN IT GOT REAL CLOSE IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND NOW IT'S STARTING TO SPREAD A LITTLE BIT, WHAT IMPACT IS HOLDING OFF ON THE, THE YELLOWS THAT HAVE SORT OF SLOWED THINGS DOWN.
WE'RE RELEASING A AFTER Y'ALL RELEASED THAT, UH, PRIVATE CONTINGENCIES FOR US TO DO THOSE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT AMENDMENTS LEFT AND RIGHT.
WE'RE ABOUT TO START RAMPING UP IN A MAJOR WAY.
SO I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT US GETTING TOO FAR DOWN.
A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY STUFF THAT'S BEEN SLOWLY GOING AND STARTED PICKING UP STEAM.
SO TELL ME JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHAT IS THE RE WHAT IS THE REASON BEHIND THIS AGAIN? IS IT, IS IT MANPOWER? IS IT ACCESS TO THE BUILDING? WHY ARE WE PUSHING THIS OUT? SO PART OF IT IS JUST PROJECT MOVED FROM THE SUMMER THERE.
AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS IS THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF OVERTIME.
OUR SUMMER IS VERY COMPRESSED.
WE'RE PAYING A PREMIUM FOR A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF HOLDING THAT OFF WHERE WE'RE AFRAID AND MAY HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT VOLUME.
SO WE'LL WONDER WHO IS FOCUSED ON THE CORE, WHICH IS IB.
THAT'S WHERE THE CORE NETWORK IS THAT ONE DONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SECOND, SAME THING IN HILTON HEAD AC MCCRACKEN.
SO YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THE, THE HUB ONE FIRST AND PRICES DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND TRY TO KEEP THE OVERTIME COSTS TO TRY TO SPREAD IT OUT.
SO CORRECT THE AVAILABILITY OF THE RESOURCES.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST TRYING TO WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POSITION OURSELVES FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT.
IF WE HAVE FOUR PROJECTS IN THE FORD, DON'T COME ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, THAT'S REALLY DETRIMENTAL.
BUT BY FOCUSING ON THE HUBS FIRST, THEN WE HAVE A LOT MORE REASSURANCE THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO GET FINISHED BEFORE WE TURN OUR ATTENTION.
SO HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD, HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD ARE WE KEEPING THAT, AS IT SAYS BEFORE NEXT SUMMER WE WILL.
BUT I MEAN, DEFINITELY THEY GO IN, RIGHT? BUT IT, AGAIN, IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE DO BETWEEN SUMMERS, BUT, BUT THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST MENTION REAL QUICK ON THE, ON THE FORECAST OF THE CASHFLOW, THOSE FIGURES ON THAT LINE IS IN THIS REPORT HAVING MOVED ON FROM THE FORECAST SOMETIME WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THESE PERIODS WHERE WE GOT TO GET THE DESIGNS COMPLETED UNDER A GMP, AND THEN WE'D GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND START CONSTRUCTING.
SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOW DOWN FORECAST AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
BUT AS YOU'LL SEE THESE FIGURES, AS THEY GO FURTHER OUT IN TIME, IT'S CLIMBING THE CURVE.
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THE OVERALL REFERENCE SCHEDULE PLANNING WITHIN THE ORIGINAL DIAPER.PART OF YOU REALLY GOT TO FOCUS ON THESE MAMMALS PROJECTS, GETTING SOME DONE IN THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUR CASH FLOW AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP IN PROJECTS.
AND I THINK IT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE, MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATE THAT WAY.
UM, WELL TOO LATE, YOU JUST HAD IT LAST NIGHT, BEGINNING OF MAY.
SO WE RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD, THE MOST RECENT CONSTRUCTION TIME, WHICHEVER DATE CONSTRUCTED NECESSARILY THE MOST REASON.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
I MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT.
SO NEXT WEEK, WHAT IS EVERYONE'S AVAILABILITY? SO THERE'S ACADEMICS NEXT WEDNESDAY, NEXT WEDNESDAY AT FOUR 30 AVAILABLE.
AND FOR STUDENT ADVISORY COUNCIL, WE DON'T REALLY GO TO RENT AND STUFF.
I NEED TO CUT IN, MOVED TO THE 27TH NOW.
SO THAT'S FOUR 45 SO WE COULD DO WEDNESDAY.
SO THAT LAST WEDNESDAY, THE 28TH OPEN, UM, THIS DAY, THE 28TH.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON WEDNESDAY, THE 28TH.
ARE WE HAVING A BUDGET FORUM AT SIX O'CLOCK? NO, THOSE ARE CANCELED, CANCELED, CANCELED, CANCELED.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, MONDAY, TUESDAY MORNING OR ALL DAY WEDNESDAY'S AVAILABLE.
WHAT IS BEST FOR EVERYBODY? I WOULD PREFER MORNING BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE A BIG REGIONS FOR MY SON, BUT I'M A WEDNESDAY MORNING AS PRINCIPALS ARE HERE FOR LEADERSHIP.
IF WE CAN DO, IT'S NOT A MUST, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
IT'S A RECOMMENDED ALSO WE WANT TO KEEP THESE MEETINGS TO WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE PHARMACY AND THE AFTERNOON, THOSE TWO HOURS.
I REMEMBER WITHOUT, I REMEMBER ME SAYING THAT AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE HAD THE MUSEUM AFTERNOONS.
BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIKE TO ATTEND THEM AND SAY THINGS AS WELL.
UH, MR. SMITH, I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT SINCE WE DID THIS ONE IN THE AFTERNOON, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NEXT ONE IN THE MORNING.
SO, UH, 10 O'CLOCK TUESDAY, THE 27TH AT 10.
IS THAT GOING TO BE ZOOM OR CAN I, DO I LIKE DOING IT IN PERSON VERSUS IN THIS STUFF BECAUSE IT'S VERY HANDS-ON BUT YEAH.
SAY MR. SMITH OR MRS. I DON'T KNOW MS. SCRIM STILL ON, OR WE HAVE YOUR BOOKS HERE AND YOU'D LIKE A HARD COPY OF IT.
WE'LL LEAVE THEM WITH ROB OR WITH MOLLY.
AND ON THE 27TH, WE NEED TO, WE'LL START OUT WITH, UM, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY DO THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS.