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WE ARE HERE ON A TUESDAY, THE 8TH OF DECEMBER FOR OUR DECEMBER TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
WE ARE, UM, CHANGED IT TO FIVE O'CLOCK WITH PUBLIC NOTICE SHOWING SUCH, UM, WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WE HAVE EVERYONE ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, BRIDGET COUNCILMAN FRAZIER IS NOT ON YET, BUT WE WILL ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN SHE COMES ON ZOOM, IF WE COULD START, UH, WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL NEXT, WE HAVE THE INVOCATION COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN TUMOR.
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME, FOR EVERYONE ELSE, WATCHING OVER US, SHINING YOUR LIGHT FOR US SO THAT WE MAY SEE THE PROPER AND THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
LORD, I JUST HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS ALL OF US IN THIS TOWN, ALL OVER THIS NATION, ALL OVER YOUR WORLD AND MAKE US JUST MORE LOVING, GENTLE UNDERSTANDING AND UNSELFISH PEOPLE.
WE LOVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
NEXT WE HAVE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, MARK? SORRY.
UM, YES, MA'AM WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE ITEM FOUR UNDER PRESENTATIONS OF THE COVID 19 UPDATE.
UH, UH, SCOTT WILL COVER ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT ARE FORMAL ITEMS, RIGHT? SO WE WILL TAKE AWAY FOUR, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN HIS FORMAL ITEM PRESENTATION.
ANY OTHER CHANGES? NOT AS SARAH MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDED AGENDA THERE.
SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED THAT'S FOR BRIDGET DID JUST CALL ME.
THE MINUTES WE HAVE THE FIRST SET OF WORKSHOP MINUTES.
IF ANY CHANGES ARE, ARE NOTATIONS ON THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT SOMEBODY WILL FRED SO MOVED AND LARRY SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? UM, TOMMY, IF MAYBE YOU COULD MAKE SURE SHE'S NOT IN A WAITING ROOM SOMEWHERE.
CAUSE SHE WAS LOGGING IN WHEN SHE CALLED.
WE HAVE COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 10TH, 2020.
IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE? HERE'S SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
WE FOLLOW UP WITH THREE PRESENTATIONS UNDER ITEM SIX VS.
BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT OF THE MONTH.
AND DO WE HAVE THE YOUNG MAN HERE? ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT ON KIM WHERE WE'RE JUST TALKING? OKAY.
SO THIS IS A, UM, LET ME GET TO HIM.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PUTS ASIDE A VOTE EVERY MONTH WITH A CHARACTER TRAIT AND OUR WHOLE CLUSTER, ALL THE CLUSTERS VOTE ON THEM.
AND THIS ONE WAS, UH, THE CHARACTER TRAIT WAS COURAGE AND TOLERANCE AND A YOUNG MAN FROM RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY.
BYRON ESPANOZA RECEIVED THE, UM, THE, UH, AWARD FOR OUR CLUSTER.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT.
HOPEFULLY WHEN WE'RE BACK TOGETHER, WE CAN BRING THESE KIDS IN WITH US, BUT BRUH, BYRON, WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF YOU.
AND UM, I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
HE WAS AN AMAZING ADDITION TO THE GIFTED AND TALENTED CLASS, AND SHE HAS MANY KEYS TO CHARACTER.
MS. MCKENNA, HIS TEACHER NOTICED THAT BARRON'S ONCE LONG HAIR WAS SHAVED.
SHE COMPLIMENTED IN DURING HIS MORNING MEETING AND IN HIS QUIET NATURE, HE SAID, THANK YOU.
BYRON ASKED THE KENNETH, SHE WOULD STAY ON
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THEIR ZOOM MEETING AFTER CLASS.HE HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO TELL HER ONCE ALL THE STUDENTS HAD LOGGED OFF, HE SHARED WITH HER, THE REASON HE HAD SHAVED HIS HEAD WAS THAT ONE OF HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS WHO WAS GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENT WAS STARTING TO LOSE HIS HAIR.
BYRON, UH, LET MS MCKENNA KNOW THAT HE WANTED TO SUPPORT HIM AND DIDN'T WANT HIM TO FEEL ALONE BEING SO MOVED BY HIS ACT.
MISS MCKENNA ASKED BYRON IF SHE COULD SHARE IT WITH HIS CLASSMATES AFTER MUCH THOUGHT HE HUMBLY AGREED.
IT'S HE SMILED BIG THE NEXT DAY WHEN MS. MCKENNA SHARED HIS GOOD DEED AND WAS CHOSEN AS THIS CLASS DAILY STUDENT SHOUT OUT FOR COURAGE, THE OTHER STUDENTS WERE EQUALLY IF NOT MORE IMPRESSED WITH HIS COURAGEOUS ACT.
AND THAT'S WAS ONE OF THE KEYS OF WHY HE WAS NOMINATED.
UM, NEXT WEEK, HAVE SORRY, I'M GOING ON TWO DIFFERENT LAPTOPS HERE.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, RDA FUND PRESENTATIONS.
THE FIRST IS HARD GRAY, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, ADVANCED RDA FUNDS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, AND THE SECOND IS PALMETTO ELECTRIC AND I'LL JUST READ THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BOTH OF THEM.
THERE ARE LOCAL UTILITY PROVIDERS AND THE AWARDS ARE FOR RURAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT ACT, UTILITY TAX CREDITS, AND IN LIEU OF A PORTION OF THEIR ANNUAL STATE INCOME TAX OBLIGATIONS, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT LOCAL AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THROUGH AWARDS, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT ACT, UTILITY TAX CREDITS OF UP TO $400,000 TO QUALIFIED PROJECTS.
BUCK WALTER IS A QUALIFIED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DUE TO ITS DESIGNATION AS A MULTI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS HARD GRAY AND IT IS, UM, THIS ONE IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,465, A HARGRAVE COMMUNICATIONS GROUP AWARDED THIS TO US FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT BUCK WALTER PLACE.
THEY'VE SUPPORTED BUCK WALTER PLACE FOR YEARS.
AND I, WE ARE UP TO $910,000, UH, FOR TAX CREDIT MONEY THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY HARD GRAY AND THAT'S FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR HARD GRAY TO ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO OUR AREA AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THIS.
AND WE JUST ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL STAFF AND ALL OF BLUFFTON, WE, WE THANK YOU, UH, WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
THE SECOND IS FROM OUR, UH, PALMETTO ELECTRIC CO-OPERATIVE.
AND THIS AWARD IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $60,000.
THEY'VE SUPPORTED BUCK WALTER PLACE THE SAME WAY.
AND OVER THE YEARS OF, OF US GETTING THESE CREDITS, WE HAVE TOTALED APPROXIMATELY $2.2 MILLION FOR EVERCORE BUILDING ONE SITE PREP, LAND ACQUISITION, AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONSTRUCTION OF OVER $850,000 OF VITAL UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THIS PUTS TONIGHT'S 60,000 PUTS US WELL OVER $3 MILLION.
AND PAMELA ELECTRIC HAS BEEN A PARTNER OF OURS FOR EVER.
AND AGAIN SEES THE NECESSITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS TOWN AND, AND ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL AND, UM, BEHALF OF ALL OF US, WE DO THINK PALMETTO ELECTRIC.
SO, UM, I WISH YOU WERE HERE IN PERSON TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL GET YOU IN PERSON SOON.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
UH, CURRENTLY WE DO IT ELECTRONICALLY.
YOU HAVE UP UNTIL TWO HOURS BEFORE A MEETING TO SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY.
OUR TOWN CLERK WILL READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AND SOME HAVE BEEN VERY LONG AND WE DO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN FOR THE RECORD.
AND, UH, WE DO NOT COMMENT ON FACEBOOK COMMENTS THROUGHOUT COUNCIL MEETINGS, LIKE SOME MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES TO ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING WE'RE DOING, YOU MUST ABIDE BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON RULES, WHICH IS, UH, ONLINE.
AND UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN IN PERSON, OUR TOWN CLERK WILL READ THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO KIM, YOU ARE UP AND DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? WE HAVE TWO OF THEM.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS CLARICE GIBBONS ALLEN FROM ONE OH ONE HUNTLEY COURT IN BLUFFTON.
I LIVE IN BUFORD COUNTY AND RESIDE IN SUN CITY.
ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF BLUFFTON, I SHOP RECEIVED SERVICES FROM BLUFFTON BUSINESSES AND WORSHIP AT CAMPBELL CHAPEL AME CHURCH IN BLUFFTON.
I'VE BEEN 19 IS A DEADLY COMMUNICABLE NOVEL VIRUS.
I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED THE LOSS OF A FRIEND AND OTHERS WITHIN MY FAMILY WHO CONTRACTED THE DISEASE EARLIER THIS YEAR.
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ONE THING FOR SURE IS THAT IT IS DEADLY.THE LONGER WE STAY IN THIS NIGHTMARE, THE MORE WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE KNOW THAT WEARING MASKS, PRACTICING SAFE, DISTANCING, USING HAND HYGIENE AND LIMITING EXPOSURE TO OTHERS IN SMALL NUMBERS ARE PRACTICES THAT WORK IN REDUCING THE SPREAD.
THIS IS ALL WE HAVE TO DO TO DEFEND OURSELVES.
SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER AT SELF-DISCIPLINE THAN OTHERS.
AND FOR THAT REASON GOVERNMENT'S ROLE TO PROTECT THE WHOLE IS NECESSARY THROUGH PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY AND LAW.
AS THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY, WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL'S LACK OF DISCIPLINE SPILLS OVER TO AFFECT MY RIDE OF LIFE.
AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEREFORE I SUPPORT THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE REQUIRING INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS AND TO TAKE RELATED PROTECTIONS IN LIGHT OF THIS ONGOING.
AND SECOND IS JULIANA SMITH OF 12, 12 KING STREET AND BEEPER LEFT IN TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE REGARDING THE PROPOSAL TO ADOPT THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY POST-CONSTRUCTION STORM WATER ORDINANCE AND SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL SINCE 2017, THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY'S REGIONAL BOARD AND COLLECTIVE STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD A REGIONAL AND COOPERATIVE EFFORTS FROM CRUDE STORM WATER STANDARDS IN ORDER TO BETTER PROTECT WATER QUALITY IN OUR WATERSHEDS AND BY PROXY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
THOSE EFFORTS HAVE ACCUMULATED IN THE ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, WHICH INCLUDE BENEFICIAL CHANGES THAT ALIGN WITH THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BOTH DR.
ERIC MONTE'S MR. RECENT RESEARCH, AND THE RECENTLY PUBLISHED WATER QUALITY MODELS FOR THE MAYOR OF WATERSHED THE ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL, TAKE A CRITICAL REGIONAL APPROACH THAT WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY ABOUT PRESERVING THE ENHANCING FORESTED WETLANDS ENTRY CANOPY, DISCOURAGING PRIORITIZING GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SUPPORTING THE INCORPORATION OF NAT NATURAL AREAS AND URBAN SPACES IN NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PROVIDING LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF IMPLEMENTED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
EACH OF THESE INITIATIVES WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY ON THE WATERSHED SCALE BY INCREASING NATURAL FILTRATION AND RESISTING TOPIC, GIRL, SORRY, I CAN'T SAY THIS WORD, TOPOGRAPHICAL AND HYDROLOGICAL ALTERATION OF OUR LANDSCAPES.
THEREFORE THEREBY REDUCING CONTAMINATION OF IMPORTANT WATER BODIES LIKE THE MAY RIVER.
WE AT THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE SUPPORT REGION, REGIONAL ADOPTION OF THE NEW ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL AND APPRECIATE YOUR AND STAFF'S LEADERSHIP IN PROTECTING THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED AND ENCOURAGING REGIONAL COOPERATION.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL AT THIS MOMENT.
WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS COUNCIL NOW.
THE TIME WAS WRONG FOR YOU, BUT WELCOME IN ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL, MR. WOOD.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF OR AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, I WAS JUST BOWLED OVER AND TOTALLY AMAZED BY THE MULTITUDE.
MUST'VE BEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CARS CAME THROUGH ON A SATURDAY.
UH, THEY LIFTED THE SPIRITS OF THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AND I GOT TO ACT LIKE A CHILD, MYSELF WATCHING THOSE LITTLE KIDS COME BY AND, UH, IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EVENT.
AND THEN ALSO I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE TOMORROW AT NINE 15 IN THE MORNING ON THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, BLUFFTON CHAMBER SITE, THERE'S A STAR ARE GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED CALLED CHEAP PRICE TOMORROW MORNING.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW THE CHEEK BETTER.
ANYONE ELSE ALICIA? OH, I'M SORRY.
UH, LET US, BRIDGET, YOU GO UP THEN LAYER.
I WANTED TO, UM, ECHO THE SETTLEMENTS, UM, COUNSELING ONE AND THANK TOM STAFF FOR, UM, POINTING OFF ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND JUST THANKING THE COMMUNITY FOR A GREAT PARADE THAT WE HAD ON THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND INDEED WAS, WAS SOMETHING THAT LIFTED EVERYONE'S SPIRITS AND IT JUST WENT REALLY WELL.
AND I WAS GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF IT.
I THINK IT WAS AN AWESOME TURNOUT.
I WAS ACTUALLY TOTALLY AMAZED AT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT TOOK PART IN CAME BY AND BROUGHT THE KIDS AND ALL LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, IT WAS AN AWESOME THING IN MY OPINION.
AND I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY
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A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND WE WON'T SEE EACH OTHER FOR AWHILE HERE AND NOW PROBABLY BECAUSE WE'LL ALL BE BUSY WITH OUR OWN FAMILIES, BUT MERRY CHRISTMAS AND LET'S LOOK FOR A BRIGHT, BRIGHT 21, 2021.ANYONE ELSE? EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, IT'S CALLED DITTO MERRY CHRISTMAS AND STAY SAFE.
UM, I, I JUST CAN'T THANK STAFF ENOUGH, MARK.
UM, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MARK TOO.
I, I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CALL ME.
IT SAID TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT FAMILY PROPERTY, TALKING ABOUT THE MARTIN PROPERTY, THE PARADE.
AND I SAID, WELL, IT'S OUR TOWN MANAGER AND THEY'RE LIKE, HE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH CREDIT.
AND MARK YOU HANDLE EVERYONE'S SO WELL, YOU'VE BEEN A ROCK STAR DURING THIS CRAZY WORLD THAT WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EVEN TILL TODAY.
AND, AND JUST A LOT OF THANKS.
UM, I ACTUALLY, UM, RAN INTO OUR, OUR COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE, UM, THE OTHER YESTERDAY.
AND HE WAS HERE FOR THE HERITAGE, SORRY.
HE WAS HERE FOR THE HERITAGE CONGRESSIONAL CUP AND STOPPED BY AND LOOKED AT A LOW COUNTRY, FRESH MARKET AND CAFE.
AND WHAT A FAN WE HAVE IN OUR AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT WITH OUR FARMER'S MARKET, LARRY, WITH YOUR OYSTERING, WITH THIS, THIS NEW LOW COUNTRY MARKET AND HELPING THE GULLAH FARMERS, IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE HIS ENTHUSIASM.
HE HAS FAMILY IT'S KIDS ARE MARRIED TO LOCAL BLUFFED ODIANS UM, THE MALPRACTICES, SO HE'S HERE A GOOD BIT BEING A FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
IT JUST GIVES ME PRIDE TO, TO SEE A LOT OF THE, UM, ENHANCEMENT OF OUR FARMERS.
I PROMISE YOU, WE WERE SIX FEET AWAY, GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GRIEF POSTED THAT PICTURE ON FACEBOOK, BUT IT WAS, UH, WE WERE SIX FEET AWAY.
UM, MARK AND I WERE LIKE 12 TO 18 FEET AWAY UNLESS THEY WERE IN THEIR OWN LITTLE GROUP, WHICH THE THREE OF THEM HAD DONE NECESSARY PROTOCOL TO, TO STAY APART.
SO I DO HATE THAT THE NEGATIVITY CAME OUT ON A REALLY AMAZING, EXCITING TIME, UH, WITH THE, WITH OUR FARMERS IN THE LOW COUNTRY, UH, MERRY CHRISTMAS AS WELL.
AND WE ARE GONNA SCOOT ON THROUGH, UH, NEXT FOR FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS. NATALIE, YOU WERE UP, WE HAD A TAX MEETING AND WE HAVE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE QUARTER ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020.
AND YOU WERE THERE YET AND WE ARE GOING TO, CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? OH YES.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR QUARTER ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020, THERE IS ONE APPLICATION THIS QUARTER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WITH $6,000 BEING REQUESTED CURRENTLY THERE IS $1,000,138, $30,992 AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION.
THIS AMOUNT OF SPLIT BETWEEN STATE AND LOCAL TAX FUNDS.
UM, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS, UM, FOR THE BRAVO PIANO FESTIVAL CONCERT BY THE HILTON HEAD SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, THE CONCERT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, MARCH 12TH, 2021 WITH A BACKUP DATE OF JUNE 11TH, 2021.
AND IT WILL BE HELD AT CAMPBELL CHAPEL AME CHURCH.
THE CONCERT IS TITLED TRACING THE GULLAH GEECHEE INFLUENCE AND AMERICAN JAZZ AND BLUES INFLUENCE ON AMERICAN JAZZ AND BLUES.
EXCUSE ME, THE ORGANIZATION IS REQUESTING $4,000 FOR ADVERTISING AND $2,000 IN SUPPORT OF FACILITIES FOR CIVIC AND CULTURAL EVENTS, EXPENSES.
AND THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED TO FULLY FUND THE ELIGIBLE REQUESTED AMOUNT.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF SAM BRIT, UM, THE CHAIR OF ATAC OR ALAN JORDAN, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO ALAN IS ON.
I DON'T SEE SAN BRITT, BUT I DO SEE ALAN JOINING NOW.
DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OF ALAN OR SOON TO BE SAM OR NATALIE ON THIS? I DO FREE AD.
MR. HAMILTON, IS THIS A ONE DAY EVENT? IT IS A WEEK LONG FESTIVAL WITH ONE DAY BEING HELD IN BLUFFTON.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN AT ONE DAY THEN IN BLUFFTON.
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YES, SIR.TO RESUME IN IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. JORDAN WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ALAN YOU'RE MUTED.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING FACEBOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THAT OFF.
CAUSE IT IT'S ABOUT 15 SECONDS BEHIND US.
DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION FROM MR. HAMILTON? I DID NOT.
HE ASKED HOW, WHAT FRED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY IT AGAIN? YEAH.
HOW IS, UM, LOVED IN TOURISM OR THE, UM, HOTELS OR RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS? WELL, CERTAINLY, UH, WE WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, UH, DINE, UH, BEFORE THE CONCERT TAKES PLACE.
UH, BUT AS NATALIE MENTIONED, IT IS PART OF A WEEK LONG FESTIVAL AND, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL PIANO COMPETITION TRADITIONALLY DRAWS ABOUT 50% OF ITS AUDIENCE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.
THEY WILL BE STAYING IN HOTELS.
UH, HOPEFULLY SOME IN BLUFFTON, PROBABLY SOME IN, UH, ON HILTON HEAD ALSO.
WHAT'S THE TIME OF THE CONCERT.
IS IT, UH, IS IT A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE SUPPORTING PLACE OR DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE TICKETS THAT WE CAN LET THEM KNOW THEIR RESTAURANTS IN TOWN FOR THEM TO DINE BEFORE THE OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO OF THEM.
UM, HOW MUCH ARE THE TICKETS? UH, THE TICKETS ARE GOING TO BE $25 A PIECE AND WE ARE GOING TO BE OFFERING DISCOUNTS TO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, CAMPBELL CHAPEL AME CHURCH.
WE SEE THIS AS PART OF A LARGER PARTNERSHIP WITH CAMPBELL CHAPEL AND OF COURSE WITH COVID HAPPENING.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN ALSO, I SHOULD MENTION THAT WE HAVE A PLAN B SINCE THIS CONCERT IS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN IN MARCH AND WE'RE NOT CERTAIN, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE CONCERTS BY THEM.
UH, WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO MOVE THE ENTIRE FESTIVAL TO EARLY JUNE IF WE HAVE TO.
UM, AND IF WE MOVE TO EARLY JUNE, ONE OF THE CONCERTS, UH, PLANNED CURRENTLY ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND WOULD PROBABLY ALSO BE MOVED TO CAMPBELL CHAPEL.
SO WE'D ACTUALLY HAVE TWO EVENTS, UH, IN JUNE.
THAT YOU JUST ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION, JUST TO FOLLOW UP IF I GUESS YOU'RE AWAITING ON, ON SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASS REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE UNDER NOW TO, TO GO AWAY.
UM, IS THAT THE, THE IDEA WE COULD STILL DO THE CONCERT WITH, UH, DISTANCING IN THE AUDIENCE? UH, IT'S NOT A LARGE, UH, PERFORMANCE GROUP, SO THEY COULD BE DISTANCED.
AND CERTAINLY WE WOULD RE REQUIRE EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE TO WEAR A MASK.
UH, THOSE PERFORMING MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO WEAR IT, UH, TO PERFORM THE SINGERS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY REQUIRE MASKS, UH, IF THAT WAS STILL A REQUIREMENT OF THE TAIL AND WE'D PROBABLY ENCOURAGE IT.
I THINK OUR AUDIENCE WOULD WANT TO, UH, TO ADHERE TO THAT ANYWAY.
MY, MY NEXT FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS IF THE WAY IT'S LOOKING RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE WITH MY EYES, I DON'T SEE MARCH BEING A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, I HOPE AND PRAY IT IS, BUT, UM, YOUR MONEY, YOUR $4,000 FOR THE ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION OF IT, IF THE DATE CHANGES, DOES THAT, I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO PLAN FOR SOMETHING WHEN THE, WHEN THE FUTURE IS NOT WHEN THE FUTURE IS AS CLOUDY AS OURS IS RIGHT NOW? I GUESS THAT'S, I MEAN, YES, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE KINDS OF THINGS FOR ALL OF OUR PRESENTATIONS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THIS CONCERT IN PARTICULAR, WE WILL KNOW, I WOULD SAY BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR
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YEAR, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, UH, THE FESTIVAL IN MARCH.UH, AND IF WE WON'T, THEN WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT FOR JUNE AND THEN WE'LL START RAMPING UP WITH THE PROMOTION THEN.
UH, W WE'VE SUPPORTED YOU IN THE PAST WITH THE, UH, PERFORMANCE AT OSCAR FRAZIER? IS THIS THE NEXT YEAR VERSION OF WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR? UH, NO, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, UM, OUR ORIGINAL INTENTION.
WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL, UH, TO, UH, HAVE AN OUTDOOR PERFORMANCE, UM, AT THE MARTIN FAMILY PARK IN OCTOBER.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MARY NEIL ON THIS, AND OF COURSE, WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE FESTIVAL COULDN'T COULDN'T HAPPEN, WE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER OF 2021.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO A CONCERT, UH, AND TO DO THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL IN OCTOBER, BUT WE WOULD VERY MUCH LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FREE OUTDOOR CONCERT IN OCTOBER IN ADDITION TO THIS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, OF NATALIE, SAM OR ALLEN? UM, LET'S SEE, DAN OR BRIDGET ANYTHING.
UM, WELL THIS IS OUR ONLY APPLICATION IT'S FOR $6,000.
IS THERE A MOTION? UH, MATT REQUESTED SIX AMOUNT RECOMMENDED SIX.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HILTON HEAD SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, BRAVO PIANO FESTIVAL, UH, BY THE ATEX COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S YOUR SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
SUPER, THANK YOU, ALAN, FOR COMMON SAM.
AND I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH FOR THE NON-PROFITS.
IF THERE EVENTS THAT COULD BE HAD CURRENTLY, UM, TO REALLY CONSIDER APPLYING CALLED NATALIE AT THE TOWN TO, UH, OR GO ONLINE TO GET INFORMATION, YOU MUST BE A NONPROFIT, BUT WE'LL WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET, UM, GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THE EXACT DAY AND TIME IF IT HAS TO CHANGE.
UM, NEXT IS NUMBER TWO CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE ORDINANCES TO AUTHORIZE MEETINGS TO BE HELD TELEPHONIC OR BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.
UH, WERE THERE ANY REQUESTS OF CHANGES BETWEEN LAST MONTH AND NOW SCOTT, THERE WERE NO REQUESTS FOR CHANGES.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF SCOTT ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? IT'S THE SECOND AND FINAL READING AND IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT BEGINNING, UH, TOMORROW, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE, TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO AUTHORIZE MEETINGS, TO BE HELD BY TELEPHONIC OR OTHER ELECTRONIC MEANS AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO, AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE THERE SECOND.
UM, AS WE SAID LAST MONTH, THIS IS REALLY TO HELP US OR EVER IN A DAY, IF ONE OF US IS OUT OF TOWN, CAN'T MAKE IT TO A COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE SICK OR MAYBE THEY'RE THEY WANT TO BE PART OF IT, BUT THERE WAS AN EVACUATION OF HURRICANE MATTERS OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ALL MEET TOGETHER.
OUR ELECTRONICALLY, IF WE START GOING BACK TO MEETING IN PERSON, UH, 20, 21, ANYONE WHO JUST HAS A HESITANCY FOR THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO GET ON ZOOM AND BE AS PRESENT AS THEY WERE IF THEY WERE IN ATTENDANCE.
SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FROM STAFF.
UH, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, NO OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU, SCOTT, ON THAT, UM, NEXT IS CONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON EXTENDING THE REQUIRING OF INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR A MASK FACE COVERINGS IN LIGHT OF COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.
SCOTT, YOU WERE UP WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO START BEFORE I GET INTO THAT.
WE, WE MOVED THIS ITEM FROM PRESENTATIONS TO, UH, SHOWING THIS TO YOU RIGHT BEFORE WE DO THE FIRST EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOR MASKING.
AND THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED US TO PRESENT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING TO YOU, UH, MONTHLY.
AND, AND THIS IS A SLIDE AGAIN THAT DEPICTS THE TWO WEEK,
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UH, CASES REPORTED PER 100,000 POPULATION FOR BUFORD COUNTY.UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE LATEST TWO WEEK PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER 18 TO DECEMBER 2ND, UH, HAS, UH, STILL ON THE RISE.
AND NOW WE'RE AT A RATE OF 330, UH, CASES PER 100,000 POPULATION, WHICH PLACES US ON THE HIGH INCIDENTS CATEGORY.
UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN AT THIS RATE IF I WOULD DRAW A LINE STRAIGHT OVER SINCE ABOUT THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE IN A STEADY CLIMB TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE FOR, UH, BLUFFTON ZIP CODES.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR ZIP CODES TO NINE, NINE OH NINE AND TWO NINE NINE ONE OH, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN THE SAME TWO WEEK PERIODS FOR THOSE ZIP CODES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THE SAME TRAJECTORY GOING.
WE HAVE CASES ON THE RISE AGAIN, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE, UH, AROUND THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME.
AND, UH, WE ARE STEADILY DECLINING.
UM, IF I WERE TO DO A CAPTURE AT THIS MOMENT AS TO WHAT THEY ARE, UH, WE WOULD BE TRENDING, UH, RIGHT AROUND IN THIS AREA FOR TOTAL CASES.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? ANY, ANY QUESTIONS AT COUNCIL? OKAY.
WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE, UH, FIRST ORDINANCE.
GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO PULL IT UP HERE.
SO THE FIRST EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING IS THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT PERTAINS TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR FACE COVERINGS AND PUBLIC SETTINGS.
WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE SINCE WE'VE RENEWED IT SEVERAL TIMES.
UH, THE LATEST ORDINANCE, UH, WE RENEWED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND IT EXPIRES ON THE 13TH OF DECEMBER.
IF WE RENEWED THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN, IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE ON THE 13TH OF DECEMBER.
AND IT WOULD EXPIRE ON THE 12TH OF FEBRUARY, 2021.
AGAIN, IT TAKES A SUPER MAJORITY TO PASS THIS BECAUSE IT IS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, ONE READING.
SO IT TAKES FOUR OUT OF FIVE VOTES OF COUNCIL FOR THIS TO BECOME EFFECTIVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNSEL TO SCOTT? OKAY, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA REQUIRING INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR A FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIGHT COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.
AND SEVERABILITY, I MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS BY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
LET'S SECOND IT, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS, OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND NOW DISCUSSION SCOTT, IS THAT NOT THE SAME AS WHAT'S BEEN IN THE PAST OR WHY? UH, YES, MAYOR IT'S THE SAME.
THAT IT'S BEEN THE LAST, UH, THREE TIMES THAT IT'S BEEN RENEWED.
UH, THE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES REFERS TO COUNCILMAN HAMILTON.
JUST THE SITUATIONS IN WHICH THE FACE COVERINGS ARE REQUIRED.
AND SECTION TWO COVERS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR FACE COVERINGS, ALL PERSONS ENTERING ANY BUILDING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND TOWN MUST WEAR A FACE, COVERING ALL RESTAURANTS, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS OF EVERY DESCRIPTION, SALONS, GROCERY STORES, AND PHARMACIES IN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN.
SO REQUIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES TO WEAR A FACE COVERING.
AND THIS APPLIES TO ANY AREA WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS ALSO ALLOWED.
AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE STATED AGAIN, THESE ARE, AS THEY HAVE BEEN SINCE YOU FIRST ENACTED THIS ORDINANCE ON JULY 1ST, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. HAMILTON? YEAH.
I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO CIRCUMSTANCE.
I THINK ALL CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THE SAME, I GUESS IT WAS TO NOT HAVE EMOTION.
IS IT UNDERSTOOD THAT CIRCUMCISE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES REFLECTS THOSE THREE PARAGRAPHS IS WHAT I'M GUESSING? YES, THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
ARE YOU STILL UP? LET'S SEE A NUMBER FOUR NUMBER ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
SO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP AN ACT SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY IN THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES IN LIGHT OF COVID-19.
THIS, THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, IS THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR MODIFIED OPERATIONS OF THE TOWN TO INCLUDE ELECTRONIC MEETINGS
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AND PROVIDE SPECIAL AUTHORIZATION TO THE TOWN MANAGER, TO EXERCISE, UH, CERTAIN PROVISIONS UNDER EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES.THE MOST RECENT RENEWAL OF THIS ORDINANCE WAS ON OCTOBER 13TH.
UM, AT THAT TIME YOU CHANGED SOME OF THE AUTHORIZATION FOR TELLING MANAGERS.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE BETWEEN THAT READING AND THIS ONE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WE ARE DELETING THE SECTION THAT PERTAINS TO ELECTRONIC MEETINGS BECAUSE, UH, YOU HAVE JUST CODIFIED THE ABILITY FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE ELECTRONIC MEETINGS.
UH, WHENEVER IT IS DESIRED DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCE ANYMORE TO HAVE AN ELECTRONIC MEETING BECAUSE YOU JUST PASSED ON SECOND AND FINAL READING OR ELECTRONIC MEETING ORDINANCE.
SO THE SECTION OF THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT PERTAINS TO ELECTRONIC MEETINGS, UH, HAS BEEN RESCINDED IN THIS LATEST VERSION OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINED EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN YOU PASSED IT UNANIMOUSLY TWO MONTHS AGO.
ANY QUESTIONS TO SCOTT ON THIS ITEM? RIGHT.
IF NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONTINUING THE SUSPENSION OF NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TOWN, COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OTHER TOWN OF BLUFFTON PUBLIC MEETINGS AND MODIFYING THE AUTHORITY TAMMY MANAGER TO DEVELOP AN ACT SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES IN LIGHT OF COVID 19 OUTBREAK.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
UH, THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR YOUR WORK ON ALL OF THAT.
UM, MOVING ON BRIAN MCELWEE IS FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER.
SO WE HAVE KIM JONES TONIGHT AND IT'S ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, ARTICLE THREE, ARTICLE IN ARTICLE FIVE AND ARTICLE NINE, UM, RELATED TO ADOPTING THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY POST CONSTRUCTION STORMWATER ORDINANCE AND STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL.
THIS IS FIRST READING AND KIM YOU'RE UP.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU JUST CONFIRMING THAT YOU ARE SEEING MY SCREEN PROPERLY.
YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU MORE DETAIL AND YOUR STAFF PACKET AND WHAT'S PROVIDED ONLINE.
HOWEVER, I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO GO OVER TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THE ADOPTION PROCESS OF THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY POST-CONSTRUCTION STORMWATER ORDINANCE IN SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL.
FOR FIRST READING THIS EVENING, UH, QUICKLY AS YOU ALREADY PRESENTED MAYOR, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE DEALING WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 25 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IN PARTICULAR, ARTICLE THREE CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS, SPECIFICALLY AN ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SECTION, AND THEN ALSO ARTICLE NINE DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS, ALL OF WHICH ARE RELATING TO ADAPTING AND ADOPTING THIS SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY POST-CONSTRUCTION STORM WATER ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL, AND PROVIDE YOU, UH, AND THE PUBLIC, A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER OF HOW WE GOT HERE, WHY WE'RE HERE.
THIS BEGAN BACK IN 2017 AS A REGIONAL EFFORT THROUGH THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY BOARD OR SO LOCO, WHICH IS CONSTITUTED OF HARDY BILL TOWN OF BLUFFTON, A TOWN OF RIDGELAND TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND OUT OF MOC, BUFORD COUNTY IN JASPER COUNTY.
UH, AND THIS IN GENERAL IS A REGIONAL APPROACH TO, UH, TO ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT AFFECT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR CITIZENS AND COME UP WITH ACTIONABLE PLANS TO MITIGATE THESE CHALLENGES THAT WE MIGHT SEE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST CHALLENGES THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE SO LOCO BOARD WAS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND HOW IT CAN ADVERSELY IMPACT WATER QUALITY, WHICH IS SO INTEGRAL TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS BACK IN 2017.
SO LOCO ASKED EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE BOARD, YOU HAVE STAFF DEDICATED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND COMPARE WHAT WERE THE MOST STRINGENT STORMWATER DESIGN STANDARDS AT THE TIME THAT WE MIGHT EFFECTIVELY ADOPT THOSE ACROSS THE REGION FOR REGIONAL CONSISTENCY FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, THE STORMWATER TECHNICAL SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS CAME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION IN 2017 TO THE SOA LOCO BOARD THAT PERHAPS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE, HIGHEST STORMWATER WATER STANDARDS WERE NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST AT THE TIME BECAUSE STATE OF KNOWLEDGE HAS CHANGED.
STORMWATER RUNOFF DOES NOT FOLLOW POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
AND ONE SET OF STANDARDS DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERY SET OF WATERSHED THAT WE HAVE.
THEIR SALTWATER AND FRESHWATER NEEDS ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
THAT'S THE GROUP RECOMMENDED BACK TO SEW LOCO THAT WE TAKE A PARTNERSHIP COLLABORATIVE APPROACH
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IN THIS REGIONAL ORDINANCE AND COME UP WITH A SET OF REQUIREMENTS AND DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE CURRENT WITH STATE OF KNOWLEDGE AND DO THIS WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM TO HAVE CONSISTENT STORM WATER ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL WITH STAKEHOLDER INPUT.THE PROJECT PARTNERS DIFFER FROM THE LOCAL BOARD CONSTITUENTS.
AS YOU MAY NOTICE SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE BUFORD COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY.
WE HAVE THE CITY OF VIEW FOR THE TOWN OF LEFT AND THE CITY OF HEARTY THOUGH, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND THE TOWN OF EMSE WHO AGREED TO PARTNER AT THE OUTSET IN 2017 IN THIS EFFORT AND ALL ARE STILL PARTNERS TO THIS DAY, ALONG THE, ALONG THE LINES AS WELL FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE AND OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
THIS IS ALSO AN INITIATIVE THAT AROSE FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR FISCAL YEARS, 2019 2020, WHICH INCLUDED A REVIEW OF THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN, UPDATE AND POLICIES, INCLUDING THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL.
UH, WE STARTED AND INITIATED THE PROJECT BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2018.
SO THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR TWO YEARS NOW, AND IT INITIATED UNDER THE LEAD OF CENTER FOR WATERSHED PROTECTION, SEEKING ALL DESIGN COMMUNITY, UM, ENGINEERING COMMUNITY.
WHAT HAVE YOU INPUT ON THE EXISTING STORMWATER ORDINANCES? WHAT WAS WORKING, WHAT WASN'T WORKING? SO WE HAD THAT FRAMEWORK FROM THE OUTSET OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, UH, WHEN WE GOT THE DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT WAS PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN, INCLUDING, UM, TECHNICAL REVIEW OR WELL OVER A MONTH, ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF FROM THE JANUARY 6TH OF THIS YEAR UNTIL THE END OF FEBRUARY TO FEBRUARY 27TH.
UH, OVER THAT TIME PERIOD, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 125 PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE ADDRESSED, UH, LEAVING APPROXIMATELY 28 THAT WERE TO BE DETERMINED.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THAT TIME.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS WAS PRE COVID, RIGHT? AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE HELD THEM BOTH NORTH OF THE BROAD SOUTH OF THE BROAD IN JASPER COUNTY AT, AT THE CITY OF PARTY BELL AND IN THE TOWN OF LEFTIN OVER A SPAN OF A WEEK OR SO ADDITIONALLY, UH, STAFF PRESENTED THE UPDATE OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS TO SO LOCO IN JULY, WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR WORKSHOP.
IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, WE GOT A UNANIMOUS MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN RECOMMENDATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ADOPTION ON AUGUST 27TH, THERE WAS TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP OF THIS ITEM IN OCTOBER, AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL, OCTOBER 28TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO LOTS OF, UM, CON REPUBLIC AND REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROCESS.
THIS IS A VERY HEFTY DOCUMENT.
UM, SO AGAIN, SUMMARIZING, WHAT IS, UM, PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED OR AMENDED IN THE UTO, SPECIFICALLY OUR CHANGES AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS, ARTICLE THREE, THREE, 10, AND THREE 13, WHICH IS IMPLEMENTING A NEW, UH, STORMWATER SURETY THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SURETY.
UH, CURRENTLY WHEN WE SEE, OH, WE'RE AT 75% COMPLETION, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CLOSED OUT ON A PROJECT FOR STORMWATER.
SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THAT THROUGH THAT BIG CHANGES OBVIOUSLY ARE WITHIN THE STORMWATER SECTION, UH, FIVE 10 OF UT OR ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THIS WAS TAKING THE MODEL ORDINANCE THAT WAS THE REGIONAL, SO LOCO ORDINANCE AND INTEGRATING IT INTO OUR EXISTING STRUCTURE FOR FIVE 10.
ALONG WITH THAT, THERE ARE NEW TERMINOLOGIES INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY THAT DEAL WITH GRADING AND BETTER SITE DESIGN TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE PROTECTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL POSSIBLE.
SO THERE ARE CHANGES AND DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATION AS WELL.
UH, IN ADDITION TO NOT ONLY THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS A DESIGN MANUAL THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 350 400 PAGES OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I AM HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED REDLINE CHANGES IF YOU'D LIKE FOR THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND, OR I'VE GOT SOME BOOKMARK OPTIONS.
I HA I AM AT YOUR WHIM AS TO HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH IN MORE DETAIL OR AT WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU'D LIKE TO REVIEW ANY OF THE PROPOSED UTO EDITS.
I'LL JUMP IN WITH LARRY BEING ON WAY PACK.
HE ALSO CAN CHIME IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS.
WHAT WOULD Y'ALL LIKE FOR HER TO HIGHLIGHT? DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE HER TO DO THIS? OR IS THIS ENOUGH?
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OKAY.UM, WHAT WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION? AND CERTAINLY, AND I CAN COME BACK.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS WE CAN BOUNCE OUT AND LOOK AT MORE DETAIL, IF SO, HAPPY TO DO SO.
SO MOVING ALONG, UH, WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH THEIR REVIEW CRITERIA, UM, OBVIOUSLY FOR ANY CHANGES THAT COME FORWARD FOR THE UTO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN STAFF PLAN FINDINGS, ARE THAT WHAT IS PROPOSED IS DEFINITELY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES, PREVAILING TRENDS AND RECOGNIZE BEST PLANNING PRACTICES.
THIS DEFINITELY BRINGS US INTO STATE OF KNOWLEDGE FOR STORMWATER PRACTICES OR PLANNING AND DESIGN PROTECTING.
AND THIS WAS VERY CLEAR FROM COUNCIL AND OUR CONSTITUENTS PROTECTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY WELFARE OF THE BLOOD OF BLUFFTON AND ITS CITIZENS.
THIS SURELY IS IN LINE WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, NO EFFECT ON PUBLIC SERVICES AND NO, NO, UM, CHANGES TO APPLICATIONS MANUAL.
SO IT IS IN LINE WITH ALL OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA FROM PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOWING WAY PACKS UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION ON AUGUST 27TH, PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS UNANIMOUS AT OCTOBER 28TH WITH NO COMMENT FOR ADOPTION TO TOWN COUNCIL ON FIRST READING.
ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL FOR KIM, LARRY? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO GIVE FROM YOUR COMMITTEE? NO.
UM, AS, AS SHE'S ALREADY SAID, WE WE'D BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AND STUDYING IT AND AGREE WITH IT.
MOVING ON, RIGHT? NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
LARRY, YOU REPRESENT US ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO US ON THAT.
UH, KIM, ON THE, UH, AND I MAY BE OFF, OFF TRACK HERE.
THE, UH, WATER QUALITY ISSUES HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MORE OPEN SPACE AND MORE TREES, UH, SAY, ET CETERA, IS THAT, IS ANY OF THAT ADDRESSED IN THE STORM WATER AND THE STORM WATER ORDINANCE? BECAUSE NOW I KNOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT IN OTHER WAYS, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A TIE IN A RELATIONSHIP THERE, OR IT SURELY IS A, ONE OF THE BIG, ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER SITE DESIGN PRACTICES.
AND THAT IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH NATURAL FEATURES OF THE LAND, TRYING TO MINIMIZE MASS GRADING, TRYING TO PRESERVE STANDS OF NATURAL VEGETATION, WORKING WITH THE NATURAL FEATURES OF A SITE TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE INCREASING THE STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR SHELLFISH HARVESTING, CLASSIFIED WATERS.
UH, THERE ARE MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS APPLYING APPLIED TO THOSE WATERSHEDS SAY THAN, UM, SOME INLAND WATER BODIES AND IN RURAL JASPER COUNTY, THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SAME LEVELS OF PROTECTION THAT SHELLFISH HARVESTING WATER.
DOES THAT SAY PORTIONS OF THE SAVANNAH RIVER FOR DRINKING WATER, BUT YES.
ARE THOSE WATERSHED NEEDS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN DESIGN MANUAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, DOES THIS ALL, UH, NO, WE WENT THROUGH SO LOCO, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GO ON TO THE COUNTY? YES MA'AM.
SO CURRENTLY WE ARE IN PARALLEL TRACKS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
YOU ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT THIS ORDINANCE.
WE ARE THE LEADERS OF OUR PARTNERS.
THE OTHER PARTNERS HAVE ALL CONFIRMED THROUGH THE LOCO PARTNERSHIP AND REPRESENTATION THAT THEY DO AND WILL PLAN TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL, SO THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING THAT REGIONAL EFFORT AND, UH, TREATMENT OF STORM, WATER MANAGEMENT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS FIRST READING.
IF YOU, UM, HAPPEN TO MISS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT IN THIS PACKET, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO KIM OR BRIAN.
UM, AND WE CAN GET IT ANSWERED BY NEXT NEXT MONTH.
IT'S SARAH MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING OF AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 23, YOU DO YO ARTICLE THREE, APPLICATION PROCESS, ARTICLE FIVE, DESIGN STANDARD, SECTION FIVE, 10 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND ARTICLE NINE, DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATION RELATED TO ADOPTION OF THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY.
POST-CONSTRUCTION STORM WATER ORDINANCE AND SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL.
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ANY DISCUSSION, SO EXCITED, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, OUR COUNTY AND OUR TOWN, AND OTHERS MAY TAKE, TAKE THE DECISION TO JOIN WITH US.I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER HAD THIS HAPPEN AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
SO VERY EXCITED TO SEE AND GREAT JOB AND THANK YOU TO WEIGH PACK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO THROW IN JUST A LITTLE CUE THERE.
OUR AWAY PAC COMMITTEE IS A BARRING MYSELF, A GROUP OF VERY INTELLIGENT, CARING, BLUFFTON PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF HEART AND A LOT OF DESIRE TO PROTECT EVERYTHING AND TO MAKE OUR TOWN JUST, JUST LIKE I FEEL THIS COUNCIL IS THEIR HEARTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THEY, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT STUFF, WE BEAT KIM UP EVERY TIME SHE SAYS SOMETHING YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS AND THAT WE PICK IT APART.
UM, AND I CAN ONLY SAY THANKS TO THEM.
I FEEL REALLY, REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISIONS OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAKE TO US, UM, AS BEING LOOKED AT AND THOUGHT ABOUT AND MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE NOT SITTING THERE ARGUING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ROLLING THE BALL FORWARD AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE DOING GOOD THINGS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENT SAYING AYE.
AND YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.
ON THE SECOND READING ITEM NUMBER SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 ARE ALL UNDER ONE PRESENTATION.
SO I KNOW Y'ALL ARE READY TO THROW STONES AT ME THIS MONTH.
UM, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT IT'S ONE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE HAD TO SEPARATE IT OUT INTO INDIVIDUAL VOTES.
SO HEATHER, YOU WERE UP ON NUMBER SIX CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMP PLAN TO AMEND THE FUTURE ANNEXATION AREA TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 61.093 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THREE 2314 ALLEN ROAD, BUFORD COUNTY TEXT METTA NUMBERS AS MENTIONED AND CHANGE SAID PROPERTIES, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM CIVIC, INSTITUTIONAL TO MEDIUM, DIDN'T SEE COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS FIRST READING AND HEATHER YOU'VE GOT IT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S COMING IN AS WALTER OR THE APPLICANT COMING IN? YES, WE DO.
WE SHOULD HAVE, WELL, WE SHOULD HAVE KEVIN I CARD IS I'M HERE TO ANSWER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
UM, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER Y'ALL KNOW, UH, TO ANSWER SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS HIS STAFF DID A GREAT DEAL OF THIS ANALYSIS OVER THE PAST, I BELIEVE, 18 MONTHS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, WALTER NESTER, THE AGENT FOR THE OWNERS AND APPLICANTS IN THE WAITING ROOM AS WELL.
UM, THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN LET IN NOW, BUT THEY SHOULD BE HERE, UM, AS WELL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE OR ADD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I HAVE NORMALLY SEEN MR. LOMBARDO.
I JUST KNOW THAT NAME AND I SEE WALTER, AND THEN THERE'S A FOWLER.
IS THAT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION? I BELIEVE SO.
JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE PARTICIPANTS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING LIKE.
AND, UM, CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION HERE ON THE SCREEN? OKAY, PERFECT.
SO JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS, UM, ONE PRESENTATION BECAUSE ALL OF THESE, UH, THE NEXT FIVE AGENDA ITEMS ARE RELATED TO, UM, THE INITIAL ANNEXATION REQUEST FOR THE ST.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND OBVIOUSLY CAN STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT, UH, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT INITIAL ANNEXATION REQUEST, THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT, UM, ARE BEING REQUESTED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
JUST TO ORIENT OURSELVES, THIS IS THE, UM, THE PROPERTY HERE.
YOU CAN SEE MY LITTLE PURPLE CURSOR HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT, UH, CAMPUS.
SO THE BLUE LINE THERE SOUTH OF FORDING ISLAND ROAD, UH, YOU AS TWO 78 AND BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, UM, THAT'S WHERE THAT PROPERTY SETS APPROXIMATELY 60 ACRES.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THE NEXT SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS ARE A RESULT OF A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION.
UM, BACK IN JULY OF 2019, AT THAT INITIAL APPLICATION,
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THE ANNEXATION MANUAL DOES REQUIRE AN INTENT TO ANNEX AS FIRST ACTION BY TOWN COUNCIL, WHICH, UM, TOWN COUNCIL AT UL DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT ORDINANCE FOR THAT INTENT TO ANNEX.SO SINCE THAT WAS APPROVED, THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHY I'M ULTIMATELY HERE THIS EVENING MAKING THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON ALL OF THAT AS I GO THROUGH, UM, AGAIN, WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THAT ZONING MAP, UM, THEY ALSO SUBMITTED A CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT BECAUSE WITH AN ANNEXATION REQUEST, UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL ANNEXATION REQUESTS, YOU NEED TO PUT A ZONING DESIGNATION ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THAT CAME FORWARD AT THE TIME AS A GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.
UM, AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT RATHER THAN THE GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT, THAT BECAUSE IT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE BUCK WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT MAY BE A MORE APPROPRIATE, UM, REQUEST IN ZONING DESIGNATION, WHICH AGAIN, UH, RESULTED IN SOME MORE APPLICATIONS AND AMENDMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH AGAIN AT THE AUGUST 13TH, 2019 MEETING, THERE WAS THE INTENT TO ANNEXATION ANNEX REQUEST.
AND AT THE TIME, UM, YOU DID CONSIDER THAT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO AGAIN, GO INTO THE BUCK, WALTER PLANNING, UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE PUD DISTRICT, RATHER THAN THAT GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THEY WORKED ON REVISIONS TO THAT APPLICATION AND THAT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND BROUGHT FORWARD THE NEXT FIVE APPLICATIONS AS LISTED THERE, WHICH ALL INCLUDE THE, UM, PD TEXT AMENDMENT FOR BUCK WALTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AMENDMENT, UM, CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD? WHAT ALSO, UM, RESULTS IN A MASTER PLAN, INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION ULTIMATELY APPROVAL BY TOWN COUNCIL.
THIS HERE IS THE, UM, FOLLOWING PERMITTED LAND USES THAT ARE, WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE BUCK, WALTER PUD.
AND WHAT ARE THEY REQUESTING AGAIN, THAT'S ALL ON THE SCREEN HERE, INCLUDING A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL HOTEL, INSTITUTIONAL AND CIVIC, WHICH IS WHAT THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL IS CLASSIFIED AS CURRENTLY.
UM, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ.
IT IS IN THE PACKET AND I CAN ZOOM IN HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE, BUT THIS IS THE COMPARISON OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED IN BUFORD COUNTY.
SO THAT IS CURRENTLY A C3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT.
AND WHAT THIS, UM, LAND USE TRACT IN THE BUCK WALTER PUD WOULD ALLOW.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE PEAS AND THE COLUMN FOR PERMITTED DASHES WOULD BE NOT PERMITTED.
AND I DON'T THINK I SEE ANY CONDITIONAL OR TCP AS PART OF THAT, UM, NEW PROPOSAL.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT LONG LIST OF POSSIBLE LAND USES FOR THE DIFFERENT FOR THE CURRENT DISTRICT THAT'S, UM, IN THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS WHAT'S PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PUD.
SO GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HAVE A WORKSHOP ON ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS AND THIS JUST OUTLINES.
I WON'T, UM, UNLESS YOU'D LIKE ME TO STOP ON ANY, THIS JUST OUTLINES THE PLANNING, COMMISSIONS QUESTIONS THEY HAD AGAIN AT THE WORKSHOP SETTING AND THE RESPONSES AND HOW IT WAS ADDRESSED.
SO I'M JUST GOING THROUGH, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE BEAVER COUNTY ZONING DISTRICT.
AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FORM-BASED CODE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, UM, WITHOUT A DETAILED SITE PLAN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE AT THE TIME.
UM, SO THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, AND AGAIN, THE CONSIDERATION THEN EVOLVE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE DISCUSSION, UM, ON HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED.
AND AGAIN, JUST CONTINUING FORWARD WITH, UM, IF THERE WERE CONDITIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW THAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT WORKSHOP.
THE, UM, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE PROPOSAL AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED IS THAT WHATEVER UNITS, AGAIN, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD ARE DESIGNATED FOR THIS TRACK, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE TRANSFERRED OUTSIDE OF THE ST GREGORY LAND USE TRACK.
AND IF THEY WERE PROPOSED TO DO THAT, IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, QUESTIONS ABOUT HEIGHT AND SETBACKS WERE ADDRESSED AND GOING THROUGH JUST AGAIN, THE, UH, CONCEPT PLAN AS FAR AS DEVIATIONS AND HOW THAT WOULD, WOULD BE ADDRESSED MOVING FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS JUST AS FAR AS HOW WE GOT HERE AND JUST, SHOULD YOU HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS OR, UM,
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DETAILS OF THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD? THERE WAS LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS AND I'LL GET THROUGH.'EM FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION, AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF WHEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SHOULD BE COMPLETED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCURATE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR, UM, SCHOOL WHEN THAT'S IN SESSION AND JUST THE PROVISIONS OF WHEN THAT'S ADDRESSED.
AND AGAIN, THEY HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BUFFERS AND TREES AND MAKING SURE THAT THE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS WOULD REMAIN ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE ARE SOME UTILITY EASEMENTS, UM, THAT WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO BE CLEARED FOR MAINTENANCE, UM, AND OTHER ISSUES, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMERCIAL USES AS FAR AS AGAIN, THE ST GREGORY, THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE TRACT, THE CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL, UM, COMPONENT OF IT, AS WELL AS AGAIN, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU ON A MAP IN A MOMENT.
AND THEN THIS IS ULTIMATELY AS PART OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS FAR AS, UH, THE AMENDMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WOULD INCLUDE, IS PROPOSED TO INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT OVER 10 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND THEN 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
UM, THIS, THEIR INITIAL REQUEST WAS, UM, MUCH HIGHER, BUT NOW THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT 150 UNITS.
AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE TRANSFERRED OUTSIDE OF THIS TRACK WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO AFTER THE WORKSHOP THEY ADDRESSED AGAIN, WHEN THEY CAME, UH, ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND AT A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 28, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS, AND THAT WAS JUST, UH, APPROVAL BASED ON THE REQUEST.
SO THE INITIAL ANNEXATION PETITION, WHICH, UM, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WOULD FOLLOW, UM, LATER MARY ALTOGETHER, CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT FIRST, FIRST READING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH I WILL GET INTO THE BUCK WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
UH, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF THE BUCK WELTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE BUCK WALTER CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND THOSE CONDITIONS WERE THAT AT THAT TIME, THEY SAY THAT IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE TO CONDUCT AN ACCURATE, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
HOWEVER, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE AND APPROVAL OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR THE TRACK MOVING FORWARD.
KIND OF ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS.
THIS IS, UM, THE OVERALL CAMPUS IS APPROXIMATELY 60 ACRES WITH THE 50 ACRE POOREST IN, UM, FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND SCHOOL CAMPUS.
THERE IS, UM, AN AREA THAT'S CONTEMPLATED FOR A PUMP STATION AND THE REMAINING ACRES FOR OUT PARCELS AND USES WHICH I'VE OUTLINED AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THAT LIST OF WHAT COULD BE, COULD BE BUILT THERE.
THIS IS JUST A VERY PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS THEY MOVED FORWARD.
AGAIN, SHOULD THE APPLICATION AND PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS TO BE THE BASIS OF WHAT THEY WOULD FURTHER DEVELOP FOR AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA TOWARDS THE FRONT NET YELLOW AREA, AND THEN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND PROPOSED EXPANSIONS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UH, JUST A BACKGROUND HERE, AS FAR AS THE ZONE.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ACTING ON THE ANNEXATION REQUEST THIS EVENING, BUT AGAIN, EVERYTHING FOLLOWS THAT INITIAL REQUEST.
THIS IS THE BUFORD COUNTY ZONING MAP HERE IN YELLOW.
THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTIES IN THE GREEN SHADED AREA IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE TOWN LIMITS AGAIN IN THAT BUCK WALTER PD, JUST FOR REFERENCE MAY RIVER DERMATOLOGY IS THE BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT HERE.
HERE'S JUST THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS.
UM, CURRENT USES AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN THE VICINITY, UH, EAGLE'S POINT PUD AS WELL AS BERKELEY HALL PLANTATION.
AND AGAIN, THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS MAP, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE REFERENCE, THE PROPERTIES ARE CONTIGUOUS, UM, TO THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.
UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE, THAT, UM, FUTURE ANNEXATION MAP BOUNDARY.
THAT IS, AND SO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS THERE'S THE LINE RIGHT HERE ALONG 40 ISLAND ROAD.
SO THE QUESTION WAS, IS DOES THAT
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LINE, DID IT, AND SHOULD IT HAVE INCLUDED BOTH SIDES OF 40 ISLAND ROAD, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS CLEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, THERE ARE SOME OTHER CHANGES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT NEEDED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE APPLICANT TO FURTHER APPLICATION.SO THE FUTURE ANNEXATION BOUNDARY MAP IS REQUESTED TO CHANGE, TO ACKNOWLEDGE BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? THE MORE THE FRUIT FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE PROPERTY AS CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL.
THE DESCRIPTION IS LISTED BELOW, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY.
AND HERE SHOWS THAT BLUE AREA, AS FAR AS THAT CIVIC, INSTITUTIONAL DESIGNATION, UH, IN THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP, IT FURTHER IDENTIFIES THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE.
AND THIS IS JUST A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT VILLAGE, UM, PLACE TYPE INCLUDES.
AND IT DOES STATE THAT INCLUDES, UM, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF LARGER NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALONG, UM, CORRIDORS.
THIS SHOWS THE AREA IN THAT FUTURE, UM, THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE RED DOTTED LINE AND JUST A CALL OUT HERE CLOSER.
SO AGAIN, THAT, UM, BUBBLE ESSENTIALLY STOPS AT, UH, FORDING ISLAND ROAD THERE.
AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS IT STOPPED AT THAT MUNICIPAL LIMITS, THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL LIMITS.
SO THE FIRST REQUEST IS WE GO THROUGH THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THAT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.
AND THAT'S TO, UM, LIKE I JUST STATED TO A MEN AT FUTURE ANNEXATION, UH, BOUNDARY TO INCLUDE THIS, THIS PARCEL AS WELL AS CHANGE THE PROPERTIES DESIGNATION OF THAT FUTURE LAND USE FROM CIVIC INSTITUTIONAL TO MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ACTION ITEM FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT THERE WAS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW CRITERIA THAT'S CONSIDERED FOR THE AMENDMENT.
SO THIS WAS ALL REVIEWED AND ANNOUNCED AND ANALYZED WITH THE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS FROM THE APPLICANTS BY TOWN STAFF, AS WELL AS INPUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THEIR RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE ALL OF THIS IS COMING ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST FOR THAT ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY, THE ANNEXATION RE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT WAS CONSIDERED AT THAT INTENT TO ANNEXATION, EXCUSE ME, INTENT TO ANNEX FOR STREAMING.
AND I HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HERE.
SHOULD YOU WANT TO REVISIT ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AGAIN, ALL OF THIS WILL BE AGAIN, SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD, WOULD BE PRESENTED AND FURTHER REVIEWED AND ANALYZED AT, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IN THE SECOND AND FINAL READING.
SO MOVING FORWARD TO THE NEXT, UM, REQUESTS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WOULD BE THE AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXTS TO INCORPORATE THE NEW LANDIS' TRACT, WHICH WOULD BE KNOWN AS SAINT GREGORY, THE GREAT TRACKS END AGAIN, MISSES THAT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THE 60 LITTLE BIT OVER 61 ACRES.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE TO REZONE IT TO THE BUCK, WALTER PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT SUBJECT TO THE NEW LAND USE TRACT OF ST.
AGAIN, THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION I'M HAPPY TO STOP WHEREVER OR TO REVISIT.
UM, WHEN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REAL QUICK, DO Y'ALL WANT TO GO THROUGH DO ALL OF THIS AND THEN GO BACK FOR QUESTIONS OR, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO STOP HER AS SHE'S, AS SHE'S TALKING, I'M FOLLOWING YOU ON MY OTHER COMPUTERS, SO, AND TAKING NOTES BETTER TO STOP HER BEFORE WE GET SO MUCH, SO MUCH, THAT'S A LOT OF NOTES TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS THE LARGEST AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS ARE MORE HOUSEKEEPING TO GO ALONG WITH THE FIRST VOTE.
AM I RIGHT? THAT'S HOW KIND OF I READ IT? UM, MY REPORTS CORRECT THE VERY FIRST ACTION ITEMS. SO GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA AND GET INTO MORE DETAIL AS WE GO THROUGH, UH, WITH THE REQUESTS, BUT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO REVISE AND MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT BATTLE LINES WITH THEIR REQUEST AGAIN, SHOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT AND MOVE FORWARD? SO, BECAUSE
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WHEN YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UM, ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.SO, AND AGAIN, THOSE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT ANNEXATION BOUNDARY THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO THAT'S, UM, ACTION ITEM ONE ON THE AGENDA AND THEN MOVES FORWARD TO, UM, ALMOST LIKE THE DOMINO EFFECT.
THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE BUCK, WALTER PUD TEXT AMENDMENT TO CREATE THAT LAND USE TRACT, UH, THEN THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, WHERE WE, UM, HAVE THE DESIGNATION OF THE DENSITY, THAT COMMERCIAL ALLOCATION, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, UNITS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THEN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, AND THEN THE CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS. UM, SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, BUT MORE SUBSTANTIAL STOP FOR QUESTIONS.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT IN A FURTHER DOWN PORTION OF IT, JUST TELL US TO HOLD DOWN AND YOU'LL GET TO IT AT THAT POINT.
HOW ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST PART IS THE MOST LENGTHY ONE.
SO ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF HEATHER WAIT BEFORE SHE JUMPS INTO TO THE SECOND ART OF THIS? AND WE HAVE WALTER, WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH COMMITTEE THAT CAN ANSWER SOMEBODY ELSE GO FIRST AND I'M HAPPY TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND HE'D JUST INTERRUPT ME OR WAVE ME ON, BUT I WAS HOPING SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD GO FIRST ALSO, WELL, Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.
OKAY, I'LL GO FIRST SINCE THEY'RE SCARED OR THEY WANT ME TO CARRY THEM ON MY SHOULDERS.
THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STICKS OUT AT ME THAT I NEED, UM, CLARIFICATION OCCASION, NUMBER ONE, IT'S, IT'S MY, IT'S MY RECOLLECTION THAT, UM, WE WAS TRYING NOT TO GO OUTSIDE OF OUR GROWTH FRAME FRAME MAP.
AND THIS CLEARLY STATES THE NICE THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT GROWTH FRAME APP.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS WE, UM, HAVE BEEN FROWNING ON MOST ANNEXATIONS THAT COME TO BLUFFTON FROM THE COUNTY THAT'S APPEARS TO WANT TO ABSORB AND IT'S.
UM, AND I HAVE A ISSUE WITH ANYONE THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE FROM BLUFF BLUFFTON THEY CAN GET FROM THE COUNTY.
UM, THEN, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, CONDITIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT PLANNING PERMISSION MADE, UM, ALSO CONCERNS ME THAT COUNSELING IN MOST OF OUR, WHAT WAS IN COMMISSION ARE NOT ON THE SAME, UH, SAME PLACE OR THE SAME AGENDA, BECAUSE WE SHOULD ALL BE DANCING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC AT ALL TIMES.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY SUPPOSED TO, UM, HAVING THEIR, UH, RADAR AT ALL TIMES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL.
CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK? IF SOME, I HEAR NOISE, IF Y'ALL COULD MUTE WHILE ONE PERSON'S TALKING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FACEBOOK, I'M HEARING IN THE BACKGROUND OR SOMETHING, BUT I, I WAS FOCUSING ON THAT AND NOT LISTENING TO YOU.
HEY, WELL, LET'S ALL MUTE EXCEPT FOR FRED.
DID YOU, DID, DID YOU HEAR, UM, DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID? UM, AT ALL? UH, WHAT, YEAH, I HEAR IT.
I JUST HEAR, I JUST HEAR LIKE A RADIO OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, I HEARD IT, I HEARD IT.
I DIDN'T, I WAS GOING TO LET YOU FINISH.
WAS THAT A COMMENT OR QUESTION? ARE YOU FINISHED? DO YOU MUTED YOURSELF? ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE DAN OR LARRY OR BRIDGETTE? YEAH, I GUESS A UP WITH A QUESTION THAT, UM, THAT FRED JUST MENTIONED THE ZONING PART, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME ANNEXATION ON THE ANNEXATIONS ON THE TABLE HERE IN THE LAST, NOT TO LOAD A WHILE TOO LONG A WHILE, AND I'VE HEARD THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL WAS, I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN UP ZONING ANNEX, SEEN FOR AN UPDATING.
AND SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE KIND OF LIKE SURROUNDED BY US.
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EVEN IF IT'S NOT AN UPSELLING, THE WAY IT LOOKS, I CAN PRETTY MUCH DO.I DON'T KNOW, THEY COULD DO MORE IN THE TOWN IF THEY WERE IN THE TOWN.
I WANT TO GET HER TO GET HEATHER TO GO BACK TO THE YELLOW SCREEN WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT DOLLARS TAXES.
UM, AND I HAVE A HAVE A QUESTION ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, IN MY OPINION, WE W WE, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE TAXES HERE I KNOW, ARE DIFFERENT FOR A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION PROPERTY THAT'S USED STRICTLY FOR THAT THEN RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL AND ALL THAT.
THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BAG OF WORMS THERE.
IF, IF THIS PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS, I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN WHERE KROGER IS THE BELFAIR VILLAGE, WHERE WE AND WESTBURY PARK WERE OR NOT WESTBURY PART.
BUT WE STILL, IN MY, I THINK I REMEMBER LEARNING THAT THAT COMMERCIAL REVENUE COMES BACK TO THE TOWN ANYWAY.
UM, JUST SOMEBODY WANTS TO CLARIFY THAT FOR ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT SENSE TO IT.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IS, IS IT JUST FOR AN UPSOLD, IS IT FOR THE CHURCH TO BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE 10.6 ACRES, UM, FOR A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THEY COULD AT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WANT TO SELL IT OUT TO DEVELOPERS.
I WOULDN'T IMAGINE THE CHURCHES GOING TO DEVELOP THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
SO JUST, JUST A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY, ANY ONE OR TWO OR THREE OF THEM THAT CAN BE ANSWERED WOULD, WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND BETTER SO I CAN MAKE A BETTER, WELL, I, THIS IS NOT IN THE TOWN, SO WE WOULD GET NO TAX MONEY FROM ANYTHING, UNLESS IT'S ANNEX.
I HEARD YOU SAID, WOULD WE GET HONEY? YEAH, NO, IF IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN LIMITS, WE DON'T GET THAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
NOW WE DO AT BELFAIR BECAUSE BELFAIR WAS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN, THE BELFAIR PLAZA, BUT WE DO GET IT.
I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT THAT WASN'T IN THE TOWN, BELFAIR IS IN BELFAIR PLAZA IS IN THE TOWN.
WEST WESTBURY PARK IS NOT RIGHT.
THE COMMERCIAL PART IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL PART IS NOT NO, NO WELFARE PLAZA IS THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL IN FRONT OF BELFAIR.
AND THE CRESCENT THAT IS IN THE TOWN THAT WAS IN THE BUCK, ALAN SIMMONS, PHIL ANNEXATION, WESTBURY PARK, AND WESTBURY COMMERCIAL IS NOT IN THE TOWN, BUT SHERIDAN PARK IS.
AND, UH, PLANTATION PARK IS, BUT NOT WESTBURY.
THE SHERIDAN PARK IS, IS IN THE TOWN ALSO.
IF IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN, WE DON'T GET REVENUE.
OH, I REALIZED THAT, BUT I THOUGHT I HAD LEARNED IN HEARD THAT IF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS BUILT ADJACENT TO THE TOWN OWNED OR PART OF THE TOWN PROPERTY, THAT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT MARK, BUT LET STAFF ANSWER.
BUT I KNOW THAT IF IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN, WE DON'T GET IT.
IT'S GOT TO BE IN THE TOWN LIMITS, BUT HEATHER ANSWER THAT YOU'RE MUTED.
IT WASN'T COOPERATING WITH ME.
SO WESTBURY PARK COMMERCIAL IS IN THE TOWN, SHERIDAN PARKS AND THE TOWN.
UM, PLANTATION PART, I THINK MAYBE WE'RE PROBABLY REFERRING TO THE SAME AREAS.
WESTBURY PARK, RESIDENTIAL IS NOT, UM, BELFAIR COMMERCIAL, LIKE THEY'RE STATED ISN'T IS IN THE TOWN LIMITS.
UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SAME, I'M NOT A TAX EXPERT EXPERT, AND I WOULD DEFER TO CHRIS FORREST OR A FINANCE.
BUT, UM, I D I AM NOT AWARE IF ANY RULES ABOUT ADJACENCY AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD GET THE REVENUES FOR THAT.
SO I, I, I'M NOT THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY AS FAR AS THE BACKGROUND, FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN THE APPLICATION.
AND, UM, I COULD SCROLL THROUGH THESE SLIDES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP SCROLLING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THERE'S SO MANY SLIDES, BUT WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS, SO THE, A LITTLE BIT OVER 50 ACRE PORTION IS FOR THE EXPANSION OF ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THEIR SCHOOL CAMPUS.
THERE'S, UM, 0.05, SEVEN ACRES FOR A PUMP STATION AND THE REMAINING 10.1 ACRE.
SO, UM, THAT YELLOW AREA ON THE MAP THAT I HAD CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION IS, IS, UM, INDICATED FOR SALE FOR OUTPOUR OUT PARCELS FOR USES, UM, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING BE PERMITTED IN THAT NEW ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT LANDIS' TRACT.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME, AND I'M HAPPY TO
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RANK, UM, HOLD THOSE BACK UP, BUT THE LIST OF DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE COUNTY ZONING, AND THEN WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IN THE, IF IT WERE TO BE ANNEXED IN THE TOWN AND ENDED UP BUCK WALTER PUD.SO, UM, AND IT PROBABLY DOES THAT, THAT PUMP STATION IS ALREADY THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THERE ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE PUMP STATION, CHURCH CAMPUS ROOM FOR EXPANSION, AND THEN COMMERCIAL OUT PARCELS.
WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS, UM, THAT COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION AND THEN 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, THE COUNTIES, UM, ORDINANCE AS A FORM-BASED CODE AS WELL.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY EXACTLY HOW MUCH THEY COULD BUILD WITHOUT A SITE PLAN.
BUT I DO HAVE, AGAIN, THAT, THAT LIST THAT I CAN SCROLL BACK TO, UM, AND THE PROPOSAL INITIALLY, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO YOU FOR THAT INTENT TO ANNEX WAS, UM, FOR A COMMERCIAL, UH, AND THAT WAS A GENERAL MIXED USE COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION.
NOW THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO INTO THE BUCK, WALTER PUD, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO PUT AN ASSIGNMENT OF SOME SORT OF, UM, DENSITY TO IT.
AND THE REQUEST IS AGAIN FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.
UM, THE CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL HAS ZERO DENSITY.
SO THEY DON'T NEED, UM, A DENSITY.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A DENSITY ALLOCATION PER BUCK, WALTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE CHURCH AND THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING FOR 150, 150, EXCUSE ME, DWELLING UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES IN LAND USE, UM, UH, PERTAINS TO I, I WOULD, UM, RATHER THAN SPECULATE, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN BETTER EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN.
THE USES ARE DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO BUCK WALTER IT'S, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VERY SPECIFIC, UH, DENSITY ALLOCATION, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL, UM, DWELLING UNIT ALLOCATION, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THEY HAVE CURRENTLY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT UNDER THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY, UM, USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE SCROLLING, BUT HERE, BUT I THINK THESE TABLES MAY HELP WITH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT UP ZONING.
SO HERE, UM, AGAIN, IS THE DIFFERENT USES AS FAR AS THAT BUFORD COUNTY, THE C3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT, AND THEN THE RE THE RE THE REQUEST ITSELF.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE THE PS THERE'S PERMITTED, UM, IN THE SAME COLUMN.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME WHERE IT'S A CONDITIONAL AND A P IN THE PERMITTED, UM, IN THE TOWN.
UH THERE'S SO RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, UNDER THEIR CURRENT REG CURRENT, UM, ZONING IN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT SAME YOUTH TO BE PERMITTED, BUT AGAIN, THE ALLOCATION IS, UH, RIGHT NOW I CAN'T QUANTIFY WHAT THAT ALLOCATION NUMBER WOULD BE, BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING AGAIN, 150 DWELLING UNITS, UM, BE ASSIGNED.
THE COMMERCIAL IS, UM, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
YOU'LL SEE, IN THIS NEXT, THIS NEXT AREA RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT RETAIL, UM, TAVERNS AND NIGHTCLUBS, THEY'RE STILL NOT, NOT ALLOWED THAT CURRENTLY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IF IT MOVES FORWARD, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS, AS FAR AS GENERAL RETAIL, UM, HERE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, OUTDOOR SALES, A COFFEE SHOP, A COFFEE SHOP WITH THROUGH, AND HERE'S SOME MORE, UM, OFFICE AND SERVICES AS WELL THAT YOU'LL SEE THE P AND THEN FURTHERING DOWN TO, UM, DAYCARE, UH, LODGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THIS TO YOU, LARRY, ON THAT LIST, ON THAT LIST.
THE OTHER DAY YESTERDAY, I COUNTED ABOUT 20 ITEMS THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BY THE COUNTY.
MY, MY, MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, MISS HEATHER, SORRY TO BE A PAIN, BUT IT'S GOT TO CLEAR MY MIND.
THE, THE COMMERCIAL IS 10.06 OR WHATEVER, THE 10.03, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS, THE, THE CAMPUS EXPANSION FOR THE CHURCH IS THE OTHER 50 ACRES, RIGHT? 50.0, WHATEVER.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH, WHERE ARE THOSE 150 UNITS GOING? WHERE WOULD THEY BE BUILDING THE RESIDENTIAL? I DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN, ALTHOUGH MAYBE THIS ONE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT.
UM, 10 ACRES COMMERCIAL IS CUT AND DRY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT 50 ACRES OF EXPANSIVE FOR THE CHURCH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE THE 150 HOMES IS GOING TO BE BUILT WELL.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT IT COULD BE, UH, AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD IS ON HERE.
WELL, IT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ON HERE.
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A HOTEL, HOTEL UNITS ARE, WOULD BE PER AGAIN, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD WOULD BE PERMITTED.AND THE DENSITY FOR A HOTEL UNIT IS HALF A DWELLING UNIT.
SO, UM, I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
THEY'RE NOT AT THAT STAGE YET TO KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD GO, OR IF THAT'S EVEN IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, IT COULD ALSO BE A HOTEL FOR, UM, COULD BE ULTIMATELY A 300 ROOM HOTEL.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WOULD BE IN THIS COMMERCIAL TRACK, IT WOULD BE A PART OF THE 10 ACRE.
UM, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BUILD RECORD.
I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T BUILD RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A COMMERCIAL ZONED AREA, OR YOU WOULD, I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M JUST ASKING, TRYING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.
WHY DON'T WE ASK THE APPLICANT, HEATHER, SIR.
DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR MOVE FORWARD? IT'S THE LARRY QUESTION? I WOULD, I WOULD GET AN ANSWER ANSWER, AND THEN I'LL JUST PROBABLY JUST BE QUIET.
SO WALTER, ARE YOU ON THE, I CAN'T SEE HIM ON MY SCREEN, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WALTER'S HERE.
HE POPPED UP UN-MUTED THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND CERTAINLY THANK YOU TOWN STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, UM, ON OUR, ON OUR APPLICATION, WHICH IS VERY COMPLICATED AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED MR. HAMILTON, UM, MR. KILMER, UH, AND MR. WOOD, UM, AND WELCOME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET ME SAY INITIALLY THAT, UM, THE WHY QUESTION, I THINK THAT CAME FROM MR. HAMILTON.
UM, THE, THE WHY QUESTION IS THAT IF YOU ASK A PARISHIONER, AS THEY'RE LEAVING MASS ON, UH, ON A SUNDAY MORNING WHERE THEY LIVE, THEY WOULD SAY THEY LIVE IN BLUFFTON.
AND SO IN ANY, IF NOT, ALL OF THE MINISTRIES OF THE CHURCH ARE LUMPED IN CENTRIC, THEY'RE ALL INVOLVED IN BLUFFTON, THE COMMUTE, THIS, THE CHURCH COMMUNITY BELIEVES THAT IT IS A PART OF BLUFFTON AND, AND FRANKLY, THE CHURCH WANTS TO ACTUALLY BE PART OF BLUFFTON.
UM, THERE IS, UH, A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE LAND USE TYPE OR THE COMPARATIVE CHART.
WE WORK, UH, VERY HARD TO TRY TO LIMIT THE VARIOUS IS UNDERSTANDING THE TOWN'S RELUCTANCE TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT APPEARS TO BE IS ACTUALLY UPS ZONING.
THERE'S NO, THERE, THERE WAS NO DESIRE ON BEHALF OF THE DIOCESE TO TRY TO ESCAPE SOME, UM, SOME PROBLEMS FOR COUNTY AND GET A BETTER BENEFIT BY BEING IN THE TOWN OTHER THAN BEING IN TOWN, FOR INSTANCE, THE RESIDENTIAL DENTIST ONE PLAN, AND IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD PLAN TO TRY TO SQUEEZE ANY RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA.
HOWEVER, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR A RETIREMENT HOME FOR CLERGY, CLERGY OF THE DIOCESE AND A RETIREMENT HOME, SUCH AS, UH, SUCH AS THAT WOULD CONSUME RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
IN ADDITION, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR, UM, A DORMITORY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL OR ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THE MINISTRIES OF THE CHURCH AND TO HAVE SUCH A DOOR IN A CIVIC CIVIC, UM, UH, AN AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED OR ZONED FOR CIVIC USES IT WOULD CONSUME THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
SO THE PRIMARY GOAL IN HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ARE FOR USES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, WITH THE CHURCH AND THE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
UM, WE SEE WE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA, AND WE TRY TO MAKE IT SIMILAR TO, UM, B BECAUSE ALONG THE U S TWO 78 CORRIDOR, THERE'S LITTLE LITTLE TO COMPARE IT TO IF YOU'RE GOING INTO BUCK WALTER, OTHER THAN BOOK WALTER, OR PERHAPS THE BLUFFTON TOWN CENTER, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE USE OF THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN, IN, IN, IN THAT DISTRICT, THE, THE, UM, LAND USE PIPE CHART HAS A LOT OF ETPS, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, THAT IN THE COUNTY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT, BE IT IN A, YOU HAVE TO, AS PART OF A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS.
IN ADDITION, THERE ARE CONDITIONS FOR A PARTICULAR USES.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US AT THIS CREATE CONDITIONS IN AN OR, AND IN THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE.
WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF USES AND WE DID SO, FRANKLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL WHEN WE MET WITH YOU IN 2019, THAT THE GENERAL MIXED
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USE COMMERCIAL WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION BECAUSE IT HAD TOO MUCH.AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND ENDEAVOR TO SCALE DOWN AS MUCH AS WE FELT WAS APPROPRIATE, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING.
AND THEREFORE WE TRIED TO MAKE IT A LAND USE TRACK IN THE BUCK, WALTER PUD THAT WAS RELAT RELATED TO, OR SIMILAR TO OTHER PLANNING TRACKS IN THE BUCK, WALTER PLANT, UH, PUD, BUT ALSO TRACKS WITHIN THE TOWN.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THE PHRASE OF ZONING IS ONE THAT I BELIEVE IS NOT DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE VERNACULAR OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ANNEXATION, THE TOWN THAT THE DIOCESE REALLY WANTS TO BE IN THE TOWN.
THE DIOCESE IS NOT LOOKING FOR THE TOWN TO GIVE IT SOMETHING THAT IT CAN'T OTHERWISE GET FROM THE COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD SAY IT ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE ANNEXATION IS NOT TO DERIVE SOME OTHER BENEFIT.
THOSE, THOSE OUT PARTIALS, UM, ARE, ARE NOT CONTEMPLATED RIGHT NOW FOR CHURCH USES.
AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO COME UP WITH AN APPROPRIATE PLAN, WITH AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT, WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, FOR THAT AREA.
AND WE WOULD WELCOME ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE SOMETHING IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE BECAUSE THE PRIMARY GOAL HERE IS TO, IS TO ANNEX TO CHURCH, FOLLOW UP ON THAT FOR PEOPLE TO THINK OF SAYING THAT WALTER AND HEARING YOU SAY, YOU JUST, YOU WANT TO DO WHAT YOU COULD DO IN THE COUNTY.
MAYBE IT'S A HEATHER QUESTION.
IS THERE A WAY TO MANIPULATE THIS LAND USE MAP TO COINCIDE? WHAT COULD CURRENTLY BE A C I THINK A C IS A P I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE WITH A C EVER GET IT DENIED, BUT A TCP, A CRP WOULD BE THE SAME USE AS WE WOULD INCORPORATE.
AND THAT CLEANS IT UP AND KEEPS IT FROM THE THOUGHT OF UPSETTING FOR SOMEBODY WHO MAY BUY A PARCEL DOWN THE ROAD.
NOT THAT THE CHURCH INTENDS TO DO IT, BUT THE END USER OF, OF SOME OF THIS LAND, JUST TO QUESTION, UM, I WOULD JUST I'D STAY WITH THAT.
SO THE, UM, WALTER JUST ADDRESSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN THE COUNTY WHERE YOU SEE THE TCP, THAT'S THE TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN, UM, I WILL ADMIT I'M NOT, WELL-VERSED IN UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT ALL IS ENTAILED AS PART OF THIS IT'S, UM, A COUNTY REQUIREMENT, AS FAR AS HOW THAT MIXES AND CONDITIONS AND LOTS OF WHAT IF SCENARIOS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY HAVE QUESTIONS MOVE FORWARD AND EXPLORE THAT, BUT I'M, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS IN THE TOWN'S COLUMN.
IF THERE'S A C IT'S AGAIN, CONDITIONAL, UM, USE APPROVED, BUT THE TCP IN THAT COUNTY COLUMN IS A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH, UM, I BELIEVE, I KNOW, UH, WALTER IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AS WORKING IN THE COUNTY MORE, BUT LIKE A PLAN AREA AND WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, A LOT OF WHAT IF SCENARIOS WITH SPECIFIC PLANS, BUT THE TCP AND IT MOST LIKELY DOES HAVE YES, LOTS OF CONDITIONS TIED TO IT, BUT THE C IN THE TOWNS COLUMN HERE, WHICH I DON'T SEE ANY ON THIS PAGE, I UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE MISSIONS, BUT TO JUMP TO IT, WHY COULDN'T WE JUST ELIMINATE THE DASH MARKS OFF THE USE IS EVERYTHING APPLES TO APPLES.
UM, I'M NOT ASKING WHAT CMP AND TCP MEAN.
I UNDERSTAND THOSE, BUT IF WE HAVE A P UH, INDUSTRIAL ARTISTS AND WORKSHOP, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE COUNTY, IT IS ALLOWED HERE.
SO PERHAPS IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED ON THE CA I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY TO, TO TRIM IT DOWN, TO USE THE USES THAT ARE, THAT ARE THE SAME IN THE COUNTY? SO THAT SHOWS THERE'S NO UPSELLING.
I THAT'S WHAT I HEARD WALTER SAY, CAN WE DO THAT? OR DO WE HAVE TO ADOPT ALL OF THESE USES WITH THIS ANNEXATION? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT ALL OF THESE USES.
THIS IS, UM, THIS IS PART OF THEIR REQUEST WITH THE, WITH THE TRACK THAT'S BEING CREATED.
AND WHAT USES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT THIS NEW, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A NEW TRACT OF THE BUCK, WALTER PUD.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE EXERCISE WITH, UM, GOING INTO BUCK WALTER PUD, VERSUS JUST THAT GENERAL MIXED USE, BECAUSE IF IT'S GENERAL MIXED USE, YOU GET EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, YOU GET WHATEVER COMES WITH GENERAL MIXED USE BY GOING INTO THE QD, YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE IT AND CHANGE IT, AND WHAT'S APPLICABLE FOR THE PROPERTY.
SO IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE CHANGED.
SO IT COULD BE, IT'D BE DONE WHEN IT'S AN EQUITY, THEN IT'S JUST ACROSS THE BOARD ZONING, NOT WHAT SOMEBODY SAID WAS AN UPSELL MEANING IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WHICH I WISH WE COULD HAVE
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WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE WE SAW IT ON THE USES, BUT, AND WE'VE DONE THIS WITH ANOTHER PROJECT BEFORE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE THAT WAS, BUT WERE YOU SAYING, SORRY, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT WHILE YOU DO THAT.YOU WON'T HEAR DOGS BARKING IN JANUARY.
UM, SO THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION.
AND I KNOW DAN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO JUMP IN FRONT OF DAN'S QUESTION, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, OKAY.
YES, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GO THROUGH THAT LIST AGAIN, IF, IF IT ALL MATCHES OR NOT, I OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DEFER TO WALTER AND HIS, UH, HIS CLIENTS, BUT TH THIS WAS WHAT WAS THAT INITIAL PROPOSAL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, BUT YES, IT, IT, UM, IT CAN, IT CAN BE CHANGED.
I LEFT HIM WITH A QUESTION REAL QUICK, LARRY AND SORRY.
JUST GET EVERYONE A CHANCE, DAN.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO GO BACK AND THANK YOU, LISA, FOR YOUR, YOUR, UH, WOW.
UM, FRED'S FIRST QUESTION WAS A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.
I HAVE TO ADMIT, I THAT'S LEFT ME CONFUSED BECAUSE I PERSONALLY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANNEXATION PER SE, BUT WE JUST WENT THROUGH SOME EPISODES RECENTLY WHERE WE COULDN'T EVEN AS A COLLECTIVELY, AS A GROUP, PUT EMOTION ON THE TABLE.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG BELIEVER IN TRYING TO CLOSE UP THE AREAS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES, ESPECIALLY THE DONUT HOLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I GET, I GET FRANCE QUESTION LOUD AND CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S LEFT ME WONDERING MYSELF, WHERE ARE WE AS A, AS A COUNCIL PHILOSOPHICALLY ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH ANY ANNEXATION.
THE SECOND PART IS, UM, WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, LISA, THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT THINKING.
UM, BECAUSE THEN IT'S MATCHING APPLES TO APPLES SOMEWHAT, UM, AND WE WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
THE OTHER PARTS OF IT, THE, THE 150 RTU UNITS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT.
I THINK, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AS HAS BEEN ILLUSTRATED TONIGHT THAT THOSE HUNDRED 50 UNITS, WHATEVER BE UTILIZED, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THOSE 150 UNITS.
THEY WOULD BE MAYBE, UH, UH, ATTRACTIVE TO SOMEBODY WANTING TO PURCHASE A PORTION OF THAT LAND, UH, AS A, AS A TOOL.
UM, AGAIN, THE HOTEL COULD ACTUALLY EAT UP THE UNITS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO THOSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE EVEN THOUGH FROM 446 OR WHATEVER, THE NUMBER WAS DOWN TO 150, I MEAN, I GET IT, BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE.
UM, AND THEN YOU GOT TO GET BACK INTO THE ISSUES WITH 150 UNITS.
UH, WALTER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A RETIREMENT PLACE FOR MINISTERS OR CLERGY OR WHATEVER, WHICH, UM, OR MAYBE SOME KIND OF DORM HOUSING AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WE'VE BEEN DOING LATELY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT TO IT, WHICH WAS MENTIONED BY PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, OF ABOUT 20% OF THE UNITS.
AND OF COURSE THEY USE THE 10 YEAR TERM.
OUR TERM IS USUALLY LONGER THAN THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUES THAT COULDN'T BE ADDRESSED, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AT THE TIME, UH, BUFFERS.
AND ONE LAST THING TO I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT IS THE, UM, FOR, FOR CLARITY, FOR ME, IF WE EVER DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE, UH, THE MIKE WALTER PUD ACTUALLY ARE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES PRACTICALLY ANYWHERE.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT ONE, I COULDN'T TELL WHETHER ONE WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE OR NOT.
I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I AGREE WITH WHERE FRED'S MIND IS OUT ON THAT, ON HIS COMMENTS, BUT LISA YOU'VE ADDED A WHOLE NEW TWIST TO IT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLAY NOW AND REAL QUICK ON THIS ACTUAL PAGE MINI WAREHOUSE AND SELF STORAGE IS NOT ALLOWED ON EITHER.
SO IT'S ALREADY SCRATCHED TOO.
IT'S LIKE EIGHT FROM THE BOTTOM ON THE SCREEN.
I WAS JUST READING THROUGH IT.
AND, UM, THE UNITS, YOU USE IT, YOU, THEY COULD NOT SELL THE ANYTHING, RIGHT.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT HEATHER.
RIGHT? SO THE PROPOSAL IS, IS THAT IF THEY DON'T USE THESE UNITS ON THIS TRACK, THEY CAN'T BE TRANSFERRED ELSEWHERE.
UM, SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY COULD TRANSFER ELSEWHERE IS IF WE MA IF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS MODIFIED YET AGAIN AND AMENDED, BUT THE UNITS AND THE DENSITY, ALL OF THAT IS, UM, SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TO THIS TRACT AND CANNOT BE TRANSFERRED.
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BRIDGET, HASN'T ASKED ANYTHING, LARRY, YOU SOUNDED LIKE YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.DOES BRIDGET HAVE ONE? I DON'T NEED TO, I DON'T HAVE LOSS BRIDGET, ON THE SCREEN.
I KNOW SHE'S HERE, BUT THEY'RE RIGID ANYTHING.
SO SINCE WE CAN'T DECIDE, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THE TOWN BECAUSE OF THE CONGREGATION WANTS TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF BLUFFTON, IS THERE NOT A WAY TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND WHEN THEY'VE DECIDED WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, COME BACK TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, WE WANT TO DO THIS ZONING CHANGES, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE LOTS OF PROPERTIES ASKED FOR ZONING CHANGES BEFORE WE PROMISE TO DO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD JUST SAY WE'RE A CHURCH, WE OWN 60 ACRES OF LAND.
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE TOWN.
LIKE WALTER JUST SAID, WE WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN BLUFFTON.
SO IS THAT POSSIBLE COUNCILMAN TUMOR? THIS IS TERRY.
UM, IT WOULD BE MY, UM, PRETTY FIRM OPINION THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY, THAT THE ZONING SHOULD BE DONE AT THE TIME OF THE ANNEXATION, AS OPPOSED TO SOME FUTURE TIME, THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY DONE IT.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE, THE, UM, THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY GET IT DONE PROPERLY.
LARRY, WHAT DO YOU HAVE AND ABOUT ENHANCING THE WHOLE ENTIRE PARCEL OR JUST THE CHURCH PARCEL? I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS.
WELL, THEY OWN THE ENTIRE 60 ACRES, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT, BUT YET WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A, I MEAN, I'VE JUST HEARD SO MANY THINGS, UM, I'LL GET OFF OF IT.
I'M JUST, UH, I'M JUST UNSURE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IT IS THEY WANT TO DO OTHER THAN US BEING PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT NO, UPZONING IN OUR LAST FEW SITUATIONS AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST UNCLEAR NOBODY'S FAULT.
UM, LET ME, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'LL JUMP IN.
BRIDGET, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW OR DID YOU WANT TO SEE MORE PATIENTS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, WHAT THE RESPONSE, UM, THAT HEATHER GAVE IN TERMS OF THE 150 UNITS BEING, UM, ON TRANSFERABLE, IS THAT ALSO INCLUDING IT BEING CAPTURED BY THE TOWN TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR, UM, FUTURE USES LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IF, WHAT IF I NEED HIM? YOU MEAN TO TRANSFER IT IN OUR BANK? IF IT WASN'T USED.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS THE ANSWER.
AND MS. FRAZIER THAT THE DRAFT AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CURRENTLY STATES.
AND WHAT W WHAT WAS PROPOSED IS THAT THESE HUNDRED AND 50 RESIDENTIAL DENSITY UNITS ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE EXCEPT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
IF THE CHURCH DOESN'T USE THEM, THEN IT CAN BE TRANSFERRED TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR OTHER, FOR TOWN USES.
WELL, I WANT TO ASK WALTER AGAIN FOR CLARITY.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO, THE UNDER 50 UNITS CAN BE WRITTEN INTO IT, BUT IT MEAN THAT THE 150 UNITS WOULD EVER BE BUILT.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? UH, YES, YES, YES, SIR.
THERE, AND THEN GOING BACK TO LARRY'S QUESTION IN WHICH TERRY JUMPED IN, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN BLINDLY WITHOUT ZONING TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT CARDS ARE BEING DEALT BEFORE THE ANNEX 10.
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? YES, SIR.
I MEAN, THAT'S TO, TO ANNEX AS, UM, MR. FINGER SAID TO ANNEX, WE HAVE TO, THERE HAS TO BE A ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
INITIALLY, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT GENERAL MIXED USE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT WOULD BRING IN THINGS LIKE WAREHOUSES AND SELF STORAGE.
SO THE REQUEST WAS LET'S ANNEX INTO BUCK WALTER AND COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC DESIGNATED PLANNING TRACK THAT WOULD HAVE A LIST OF USES AND DENSITIES THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THE TOWN THAT THE TOWN WOULD BELIEVE OR THE APPROPRIATE USES FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRACK.
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BECOMES A PART OF THE TOWN AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE USES ARE, AND IT'S NOT JUST COVID THE THERE'S, WE DON'T W NO ONE, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THOSE USES MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE.AND SO LAND PLANNERS AND LAND USE ATTORNEYS ARE LEFT WITH TRYING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNCILS THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE, THAT THIS IS A GOOD SET OF USES, BUT, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THE DIOCESE, THE APPLICANT HERE IS OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION.
AND, UM, I HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
THIS IS NOT THE FINAL READING ON ALL OF THIS.
AND I THINK, UM, TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT HEATHER SAID, THAT THERE, THERE, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK INTO THIS CHART AND TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, I MEAN, ARTISTS STUDIOS THAT MIGHT NOT BE ALLOWED IN ARTESIAN STUDIOS MIGHT NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE, IN THE COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE TOWN MIGHT WANT IN THIS PARTICULAR PLANNING TRACK.
SO HAVING THE, HAVING THAT KIND OF INPUT AND HAVING THAT KIND OF DIALOGUE, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO THE DIOCESE AS IT MOVES FORWARD, BUT WE WOULD WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS OPPOSED TO NOT MOVING.
SO FOR MY LAST COMMENT, UM, SO WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING IS THE MAYOR SUGGESTION THERE'S ROOM FOR FLEXIBILITY TO REVAMP REEVALUATE THE USES TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH COMPATIBILITY FOR BOTH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND YOUR CLIENT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WHAT I HEAR, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE, YOU WON, SO, OKAY.
DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ON TO OTHER THE OTHER AREAS JUST TO DO THE PRESENTATION, HEATHER? SURE.
AND I'LL TRY TO GET A LOT OF IT MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN.
UM, SO LET ME TRY TO GET BACK TO WHERE YOU ARE.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT, UM, ARE REQUESTED REVISITED THE ANNEXATION, UM, CRITERIA A LITTLE BIT TALKED ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST, WHICH, UM, IS THAT ST.
GREGORY THE GREAT LANDIS' TRACT AGAIN, UM, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE, UM, CRITERIA, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE ANNOUNCED, ANALYZED AS PART OF THE REQUEST.
UM, THIS AGAIN, IS THAT REQUESTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
AND AGAIN, JUST THAT RE REVIEW CRITERIA HERE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS, SO THEN FAST-FORWARDING TO, IF IT WERE TO BECOME PART OF THE BUCK, WALTER PUD AND ULTIMATELY THE BUCK WELTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE'S ALSO THAT, UM, CONCEPT PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH, UM, EACH OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THE PMDS.
SO IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
SO THIS WOULD INCORPORATE THAT AREA, UM, THE 61 PLUS ACRES OF LAND AS PART OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, AND AGAIN, REVIEW CRITERIA HERE AS FAR AS, UM, HOW THAT'S REVIEWED AND ADDRESSED GOING THROUGH THE CRITERIA.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY, THOSE ARE ALL THE APPLICATIONS, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, I KNOW THIS IS REALLY LITTLE INFORMATION.
THIS IS LITTLE AND PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO READ ON THE SCREEN, BUT SO WE ARE HERE AT FIRST READING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND AGAIN, SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD? THERE IS, UM, THE NEXT STEPS AFTER FIRST READING WOULD BE A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ITEMS. AND THAT'S WHEN THE ANNEXATION REQUESTS WOULD ALSO COME BACK TO YOU, BECAUSE IF, BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL THAT ALREADY HAD FIRST READING, SO NOW WE'RE AT FIRST READING OF ALL THE OTHER ASSOCIATED APPLICATIONS.
AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE GOT THAT FINAL RATING, UM, AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR ALL OF THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, MOVING AGAIN, IF ALL OF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TAUGHT AS THE DISCUSSION PROGRESSED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LAND USES AND, UH, DENSITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE WOULD ALSO BE, UM, AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS TRACT PRIOR TO ANY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE'D BE THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD GO BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, YOU ALL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ULTIMATE APPROVAL.
AND THEN, UM, THE FURTHER DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ARE REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THERE IS, UM, LOTS MORE PROCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT GOING THROUGH AFTER IF THE ANNEXATION MOVES FORWARD, AS WELL AS THE, UM, THAT ZONING CHANGE.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ALL OF THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
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A MOTION AND SEPARATE ACTION CAUSE THEY ARE ALL SEPARATE, UH, SEPARATE ACTION ITEMS. AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE THE MOTIONS, UM, SHOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD TO ENTERTAIN THAT, TO BE ABLE TO PULL UP? UM, SO HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE, LIKE ME TO STOP OR ANY MORE DETAIL, I'M HAPPY TO PRODUCE QUESTION ON PROCESS.UM, AND I'VE JUST HEARD DAN SEEMED TO LIKE WHAT WALTER SAID.
IF THIS WERE A MOTION THAT PASSED, WHAT IS IT NEEDED TO PUT IN THERE THAT WE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING WE'D HAVE A GROUP TOGETHER.
PERHAPS WE COULD GIVE OUR THOUGHTS TO ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCIL COULD SIT IN WITH IT.
I THINK WE ALL COULD LOOK AT THOSE USES, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I KNOW THAT CHURCH HAS A, I GUESS A CREMATORIUM IS CONSIDERED A CEMETERY, BUT THE COUNTY SAYS THEY DON'T ALLOW CEMETERIES.
SO SOME OF THIS, WE NEED TO MAKE SENSE OF, UM, HOME OFFICE.
I THINK THERE ARE BUSINESS LIVE WORK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I THINK COULD WORK THERE.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE A CARWASH? PROBABLY NOT, DEFINITELY NOT A STORAGE FACILITY.
SO COULD WE WORK WITH STAFF, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO REPRESENT US TO SIT WITH THEM ON THE USES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING? I THINK WE COULD.
I DEFER TO, UM, ANYBODY, IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL THINGS WE NEED TO ADD OR INCLUDE IN THAT AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, BUT, UM, I THINK CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH THE APPLICANT AND WORK, WORK TOGETHER TO, TO BRING BACK ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL ANSWERS OR INFORMATION OR, UM, THAT YOU, THAT YOU'D NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
THIS IS TERRY, I THINK IF THERE'S A, A REALISTIC, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, TO PARE DOWN THE LIST, IF NECESSARY, WE MIGHT GET, UM, WITH HEATHER'S BENEFIT AND MARK'S BENEFIT, MAYBE GET CREATIVE ENOUGH.
UM, ALONG WITH WALTER TO, UM, HAVE A RETIREMENT, UM, CLERGY HOME MIGHT BE, UM, MIGHT EVEN FIT UNDER OUR INSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT.
UM, IF YOU GAVE FIRST READING APPROVAL TO THIS, UM, SET OF, UM, ITEMS TONIGHT, IF THEY WERE MATERIAL CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO A FIRST READING AGAIN.
AND, AND, AND IT WOULD ADD A MONTH TO THE ALREADY LENGTHY PROCESS, BUT, UM, I THINK A MEETING WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, HEATHER AND HER STAFF, UM, PROBABLY MARK BE HAPPY, BE INVOLVED IN IT WITH WALTER AND HIS FOLKS.
I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED TONIGHT.
UM, SO I, I THROW THAT OUT THERE.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT IS A MATERIAL CHANGE OR COULD WE PUT IT IN OUR WORDING OF FIRST READING CONDITIONED UPON OUR MEETING BEFORE SECOND READING ON USES? I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF TONIGHT YOU GAVE FIRST READING APPROVAL AND YOU GAVE THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND, AND, UM, GAVE FIRST READING TO A ZONING DESIGNATION, WE THEN WENT AND MODIFIED IT, UM, IN SOME SIGNIFICANT FASHION.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WOULD REQUIRE GOING BACK TO FIRST READING AND THEN ANOTHER SECOND, EVEN THOUGH YOU CONDITIONED IT IN YOUR MOTION, SO WHAT DO YOU SET? SO WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT? WELL, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, IS TO GIVE FIRST READING APPROVAL TO EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS TONIGHT.
UM, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE COMMITMENT FROM, FROM WALTER AND HIS, UM, AND THE APPLICANT THAT THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH US.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH TIME OF YEAR TO DO A LOT OF MEETING.
UM, IT'S A TOUGH COVID TYPE TYPE OF YEAR TO DO MEETINGS, BUT I THINK IF WE COULD GET SOME TIME, UM, EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS, I BELIEVE THAT WITH WALTER'S EXPERTISE AND HEATHER'S EXPERTISE, I BELIEVE WE COULD COME UP WITH A, AN AMENDED LIST OF USES THAT WOULD PASS MUSTER WITH COUNSEL.
WALTER ARE MY, AM I SPEAKING OUT OF SCHOOL? WALTER HAD HIS HAND UP WALTER? NO, SIR.
I, I AGREE WITH, UM, WITH CARRIE AND I, I WOULD SUGGEST TO THE EXTENT THAT THE LIST IS CHANGING, THINGS ARE BEING DROPPED.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD TRIGGER THAT MATERIALITY, UM, PROVISION THAT TERRY, UM, NOTES.
BUT I DO, I DO NOTE THAT AND AGREE WITH TERRY THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY WE WILL MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE.
UM, AGAIN, TOWN STAFF HAS BEEN EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
IT IS, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A COMPLICATED APPLICATION BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL NECESSARY STEPS
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JUST FOR THE, FOR THE ANNEXATION.SO WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND WALTER MAY BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ME THAT DROPPING AS OPPOSED TO ADDING USES OR MODIFYING USES WOULD NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
IT WOULD BE IN THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST.
UM, HE MAY BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ME THAT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
WE GO DIRECTLY TO A SECOND RATING.
I WOULD HOLD THAT OR ANSWERING A BAND'S PENDING OUR DISCUSSIONS.
HOW HAS COUNCIL, WHAT IS COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON THAT AFTER YOU HEARD? UM, TERRY, I GUESS WE'LL KNOW IF I ON THE MOTION, LIKE PULL UP THE MOTIONS, I'LL SPEAK UP.
UM, MAYOR, UM, I JUST, I WISH THAT ALL THIS, THESE THINGS COULD BE HASHED OUT BEFORE IT COMES TO US.
UM, NOT NOT SAYING HEATHER, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD IN, AND THIS IS THE PROCESS.
I JUST WISH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT WERE VOTING ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, UM, WHERE WE ARE.
AND MY SECOND THING IS WHAT IS THE URGENCY? I MEAN, IF, IF IT DOES TAKE ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER, IF WE DON'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO OR WHAT THEY'RE GONE TO DO, WHAT DOES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THIS MONTH, NEXT MONTH OR, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, ONCE WE GET ALL OUR I'S DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED, W WHAT, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? UM, WELL, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I CAN SPEAK ON AN AGENDA JUST OVERALL AGENDA.
WE'VE GOT HEAVY AGENDAS FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND MEETING, LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S IN THE QUEUE TO DEAL WITH THIS MONTH.
WE CAN PUSH IT OFF NEXT MONTH, BUT IT JUST PUSHES IT INTO THE QUEUE OF UDL CHANGES IN LONG, LONG MEETINGS, WHICH FIND THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT JUST TRYING TO MANAGE THE AGENDA WITH MARK AND HIS STAFF.
AND WHAT'S A DOABLE TIME WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T CHECKING OUT ON US, YOU KNOW, IN A LENGTHY MEETING AND IT'S TIME ON THE STAFF.
SO TO SAY, IT'S FIRST STRING ON ANYTHING.
UM, I'M SURE THEY'D RATHER WAIT UNTIL JANUARY THAN GET A FIRST READING TURN DOWN, BUT THE FIRST READING JUST GETS HEATHER MOVING ON TO MAKE THESE CHANGES, TO GET TO SECOND READING.
AND IT NOT BE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION, WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO DO IN JANUARY IF WE PUSH THIS OFF.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT THOUGHT TRYING TO KEEP THESE AGENDAS LIGHTER AND MANAGEABLE AND NOT PUT TOO MUCH WORK ON STAFF DURING THIS TIME.
AND I, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO, UM, I JUST LIKE TO MAKE GOOD CLEAR DECISIONS.
AND WHEN I SAY, YAY, I LIKE TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THIS.
AND WHEN WE HAD OUR WORKSHOP, IT WAS A WHILE AGO, BUT, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR ACTIVITY LEVEL, IT'S JUST GOTTEN TO THE POINT IT'S RISEN.
UM, SHOULD WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT AT THE WORKSHOP? I THINK SO, BUT WE, AS A COUNCIL DID NOT.
SO THE LITTLE BITS ON US, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE ASK, CAN ASK THE APPLICANT.
WE CAN ASK HEATHER AS THEY'RE JUST MY THOUGHTS LOOKING AT EVERY MONTH AGENDA, NOT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
WALTER, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS LARRY'S QUESTION? YES.
UH, MAYOR, I MEAN, THE, THE PROCESS IS ACTUALLY THE PROCESS UNDER THE TOWNS ORDINANCES.
SO I MEAN, AND THE TOWN ORDINANCE IS NOT ONLY THE TOWN ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO STATE LAW.
AND, AND, AND WHEN YOU, WHEN AN APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT THIS KIND OF AN IDEA, IT WORKS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT FOLLOWS THE PROCESS.
THERE'S NOT ANY PARTICULAR URGENCY OTHER THAN IT WAS 2019 WHEN WE STARTED.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET, UM, COULD CONTINUE TO GET THE LEG BECAUSE TIME EQUALS MONEY.
AND THERE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE TO GET TO THE MASTER PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, SURVEY WORK, UH, CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL PLANS THEMSELVES.
SO THERE ARE OTHER CONSULTANTS AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT GET TRIGGERED, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH ALL FALL IN PLACE UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THOSE ARE ALL THE REQUIRED STEPS UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
AND IT IS, IT IS VERY COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S A VERY
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IMPORTANT DECISION FOR, FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE.AND IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THAT REQUISITE INFORMATION, BUT, UM, I'M GLAD TO DISCUSS THE PROCESS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
AND I, I HOPE THAT I'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
I IT'S JUST, THERE'S NOT ANY PARTICULAR URGENCY OTHER THAN IT STARTED IN 2019.
UM, MAYOR, CAN I GET A QUESTION FOR HAMILTON? THANK YOU.
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, COMPONENT OF THIS AS, UM, UNDER ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES TO THE TOWN HAS TO REQUIRE 20%, BUT THE FOOD HOW'S, THE COMMITTEE ALSO REQUIRES THAT THAT BE, I BELIEVE 25 YEARS, I BELIEVE 20, 25 YEARS.
UM, UM, AND, AND WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THE AMI THAT WE WILL REQUEST.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE BETTER THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE, BUT HOW'S THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO, UM, THE TERMS ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, COMPONENT.
WELL, FRED, WE ARE, Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY MADE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PERCENTAGE.
AND IF, IF A DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T BUILD HOUSING, I THINK YOU JUST, WE JUST GOT TO GET THOSE ORDINANCE PASSED THROUGH Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WOULD GO.
NO, BECAUSE EARLIER, EARLIER, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION, NOT ALIGN WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN PUT IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT.
WE CAN PUT IF THERE'S ANY HOUSING THAN WE PUT, WHAT OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE VOTED ON SAYS AT THE END RDO, I DON'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE QUESTION FROM PLANNING.
I'VE WATCHED THE THING LAST WEEK AND ALL FINE.
I'M FINE WITH ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO DO WHAT YOU ARE COUNCIL VOTED ON, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS GOES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
NO, I, I AGREE, MAYOR, I, AGAIN, THERE ARE STANDARDS ARE IN EXISTENCE AND, UH, AND AGAIN, HE MAY NOT EVEN DO IT.
SO UNTIL HE GETS READY TO DO IT, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE DISCUSSION WOULD TAKE PLACE.
HE'D HAVE TO GET APPROVED, RIGHT.
BUT IN ANY MOTION WHEN THIS, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, IS IF, IF THERE IS A HOUSING, THEN WE MUST HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND WE MUST REQUIRE THE, THE LIMITS THAT WE'VE VOTED ON THE 20%, THE NUMBER OF YEARS AND THE LMI, BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON BY THE TOWN.
IF I COULD, CAN I, UM, THIS, I BELIEVE WHAT, UM, WHAT THE REFERENCE IS, IS THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE APPROVED AND CODIFIED AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT MUST BE INCLUDED ANY NEAT, NEW OR AMENDED, UM, PUD THAT HAD A HOUSING COMPONENT.
THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THOSE CHANGES.
HOWEVER, OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO COUNCIL AND YOUR DECISION AS FAR AS WHAT'S APPROVED.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REFERENCE TO THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT MUST BE INCLUDED IN A PUD IF THAT HELPS.
SO, SO A QUESTION I DON'T THINK WAS ANSWERED, AND I KNOW THE PROCESS IS THE PROCESS.
UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER WITH ON THE USES WOULD, Y'ALL RATHER, AND LARRY SAID IT, WE COULD VOTE ON FIRST READING, WORK ON THE USES, GET THE CLEAN PACKAGE ON SECOND, OR LARRY HAD SUGGESTED PUSHING IT TO JANUARY.
AND Y'ALL HEARD MY REASONING FOR THE AGENDA STRUGGLE THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH, BUT WITH ORDINANCES AND CODE REEDIT.
SO WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO DO SO, IS THERE A COMFORT LEVEL TO MEET? AND ONE OF Y'ALL CAN RAISE YOUR HAND ON A VOLUNTEER TO WORK WITH THEM.
IF YOU'D LIKE, I, I I'M COMFORT COMFORTABLE WITH THE M A FIRST READING, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO SET AS THE SECOND READING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE SECOND READING HAS TO TAKE PLACE NEXT MONTH.
UM, THAT ALLOWS THE TIME FOR THE MODIFICATIONS TO BE PRESENTED BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE THE SECOND READING IS FAIR ASSESSMENT.
HEATHER, WAS THAT A PERIOD? YES, YES IT IS.
AND WE ACTUALLY, WE, WE HAD IN THERE, I BELIEVE A TWO MONTH SCHEDULE TO GET, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE,
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GET THOSE PACKETS TOGETHER AND GET EVERYTHING.THE OTHER PART, THE OTHER PART IS IF, IF WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT TONIGHT, I MEAN, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.
UM, THEN WE GOT TO GO THROUGH ALL, EVERY BIT OF THIS AGAIN FOR A FIRST READING.
SO, AND NOT THAT IT IS IN NOT A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO LEARN.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT TIMING AND, AND I'M VERY CAPE, I'M VERY CONTENT WITH SAYING, NO, THE SECOND GO AROUND.
IF THERE'S SOME REASON AN APPLICANT WON'T SO WAREHOUSE AND WE DON'T, OR IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE CAN ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND MAKE IT A GOOD, A GOOD PROJECT.
I'M GOING TO START WITH, UM, I'LL START WITH FIRST.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMP PLAN TO HIM IN THE FUTURE ANNEXATION MAP TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 6,109 THREE ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THREE 2340 ALLEN ROAD WITH THE TAX NUMBERS WRITTEN IN THE PACKET AND SENT CHANGE, SAID PROPERTIES, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM CIVIC, INSTITUTIONAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY COMMERCIAL.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
NUMBER TWO, A MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK, WALTER PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXTS TO INCORPORATE PROVISIONS FOR A NEW LAND USE TRACK TO BE KNOWN AS THE ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT TRACK, THEIR EMOTIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
THE THIRD ITEM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE APPROVING A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 61.093 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THREE 2340 ALLEN ROAD TAX NUMBERS LISTED ON THE PACKET AS BUCK WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK? IS THAT THE ONE I'VE ALREADY READ? NO, UH, TO APPROVE I'M FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUCK WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ADD APPROXIMATELY 61.093 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THREE 2340 ALLEN ROAD, TEXT NUMBERS ON THE AGENDA AND INCREASED TOTAL ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BY 10.03 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION OF THE INCLUSION OF PROVISION, NOTING THAT DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO CONDUCT AN ACCURATE TRAFFIC COUNT AT THIS TIME AND REQUIRING THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR THE ST.
ANY DISCUSSION QUESTION? YES, SIR.
TERRY, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S, THIS IS THE ONE OR THE, ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAPPENED A MOMENT AGO, BUT, UH, HEATHER HAD MENTIONED THE FACT ABOUT A CONCEPT PLAN OR VERBIAGE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN OTHER WORDS, WE MIGHT NOT WHOLEHEARTEDLY ACCEPT THE BUCK WALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, WITH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE OR MODIFICATION, IF WE DON'T ALTER THIS, UM, THIS AMENDMENT OR THIS, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TO APPROVE THIS, DOES THAT MAKE FOR A MAJOR CHANGE TERRY OR WOULD IT NOT? IT, IT WOULD, UH, COUNSELING WOULD, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT, UM, THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GONE FROM, YES, WE, UH, WE THINK THE ANNEXATION IS GOOD IN ORDER TO DO THE ANNEXATION.
THE FIRST MOTION WAS WE HAVE TO EXPAND OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO WE COULDN'T EVEN GO TO STEP.
WE COULDN'T ANNEX WITHOUT DOING THAT.
WE THEN HAD TO AMEND THE BUCK WALTER PUD BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT IN THE BUCK, WALTER PUD.
SO THEN WE HAD TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT
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AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE EMOTION RIGHT NOW.SO WE'RE GETTING MORE, UM, WE'RE GETTING TO A MORE REFINED LEVEL EACH TIME WE'RE COMING DOWN WITH THESE MOTIONS.
SO IN ORDER TO GET TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE'D HAVE TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION.
UM, AGAIN, UNTIL WE SEE WHAT, UM, USES MAY BE NEGOTIATED OUT, UM, OR IN OR LIMITED, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU THERE, THERE WOULD BE A MATERIAL CHANGE OR NOT.
UM, SO LONG, LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION, UM, WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONDITION THAT'S TACKED ON HERE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, SCRUTINY AT DEVELOPMENT TIME.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.
TERRY, COULD I ADD JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION? IT SAYS 10.3 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND ONE RESIDENT, 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS IS THAT AM OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WHAT, UH, WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, IT WAS KIND OF ANSWERED THAT THOSE COULD BE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA.
IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, 10, 10 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, I GUESS, I GUESS WE CAN ADDRESS IT LATER WHEN THAT COMES UP.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE 150, UM, DWELLING UNITS ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE 10.3 ACRES.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE, THEY ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE 63 ACRES OR WHATEVER THE PATH.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION THAT I HAD EARLIER.
UM, CAUSE TH TH THE MAJORITY OF IT NOW IS, WAIT, WAIT, I DON'T KNOW IF LARRY'S HERE.
HE JUST TIMED OUT LARRY, I'M SORRY.
I THINK HE JUST, SOMETHING HAPPENED TO HIM.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN HEAR US OR NOT.
DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER BEST YOU CAN AND YEAH.
UM, UH, HEATHER, I AM CORRECT THAT THE 150, UM, DWELLING UNITS ARE THROUGHOUT THE 60 ACRES.
THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO THE 10 ACRES COMMERCIAL, AM I NOT CORRECT? YOU ARE CORRECT.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSPOKE, UM, WHILE ANSWERING A QUESTION.
SO, AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THEY USE THOSE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
SO IF IT'S, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FOR CLERGY OR A DORMITORY, IT COULD BE ON THAT CIVIC PIECE WHERE THE, UM, SCHOOL CAMPUSES, IF IT'S IN THE FORM OF A HOTEL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THAT COMMERCIAL AREA BECAUSE IT'S A HOTEL IS A COMMERCIAL USE.
SO IT DEFINITELY GETS COMPLICATED.
150 UNITS COULD BE THROUGHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THEY DEVELOP THE 150 UNITS.
AND THE 10.03 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS AGAIN HOW WE MEASURE COMMERCIAL DENSITY IN THE BUCK, WALTER TRACT.
AND THAT'S ONLY LIMITED TO THOSE FRONT PARCELS.
AND I'VE GOT LARRY ON MY PHONE.
LARRY, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, PRETTY MUCH.
SO BASICALLY THEY COULD BUILD 150 HOUSES ENCOMPASSING ANYWHERE, THE EXISTING 50 ACRES, IT ANYWHERE THEY WON'T CHECK.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PLAN, A LOT OF THAT 50 ACRES HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT ON.
SO THE ALPHA HAS TO FIT ON WHAT'S LEFT.
RIGHT? WE WOULD ALSO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS LIKE, GIVE US A LITTLE BETTER IDEA.
OTHERS UNDER 50 HOUSES, 150 UNITS SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, THAT WAS MY BIG QUESTION, BUT I'M I'M, I'M GOOD.
DID Y'ALL HEAR LARRY? HE, HIS COMPUTER ZOOM LEFT HIM.
WELL, YOU'VE HAD A FIRST AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF STATE BY SAYING, AYE.
AND THEN ARE WE ON NUMBER FIVE? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT OF THE BUCK, WALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN TO INCORPORATE APPROXIMATELY 61 OH NINE THREE ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THREE 2340 AND ELON ROAD, SAME TAX MOUNTAIN NUMBERS, UM, SUBJECT TO A NEW ST.
GREGORY, THE GREAT LAND USE TRACK SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION OF THE INCLUSION OF HER PROVISION, NOTING THAT DUE TO COVID 19 PANDEMIC, IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO CONDUCT AN ACCURATE TRAFFIC COUNT AT THIS TIME AND REQUIRE THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE INSURANCE ISSUANCE OF ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR ST.
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SARAH SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE.UM, HOW DO WE WANT TO GET WITH, WHO CAN SIT WITH I'VE ALREADY PRINTED THAT, AND I'M KIND OF MARKING THROUGH MINE.
I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO MARK THROUGH THESE USES AND SEE MAYBE WHAT WE DON'T ALLOW.
MAYBE WE SHOULD AND WHAT WE DO ALLOW, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T AND AT LEAST GET A STARTING POINT AND WE'LL GET WITH SOMEBODY I'M FINE WITH WHOMEVER.
AND I THINK ZOOM IS GREAT WITH FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE AND PUT THINGS ON THE SCREEN AND REALLY SPEND ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO ON IT.
SO I'M OPEN TO ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT.
FRED WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.
IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH FRED REPRESENTING US? I AM.
SO CAN WE GET WHAT WE THINK AND, UM, GET THAT IN AN EMAIL TO MARK AND MARK CAN GET IT TO, TO THE GROUP.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE GROUP THAT CAME, I GUESS THEY'VE ALREADY GONE.
WHAT NUMBER WERE WE ON LORDY? IS THAT, CAN WE THROUGH THAT CONSENT? SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON CONSENT AGENDA, THE FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED, UNLESS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL A SUBJECT OUT FOR MORE DISCUSSION, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
AND IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THREE ITEMS? CONTRACTUAL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE BLUFF DENTURE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 2024 TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING ON TOWN OWNED PROPERTY.
THAT'S A FOUR YEAR AT 34 78 TO CONTRACTUAL MATTERS REGARDING BUCK PLACE, MULTI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THAT'S FOUR YEARS 34 78, FIVE AND MATTERS RELATING TO THE DON RYAN CENTER FOR INNOVATION AND THE CITY OF HARTSVILLE FOYER AT 34 78 TO OR SECOND I'LL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UM, THERE WE'LL, WE'LL, THERE'LL BE ACTION AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MR. ORLANDO, DO YOU THINK, OR WHOMEVER KIM, THERE MAY BE MARISOL.
UM, AND WE WILL COME BACK ON IF SO, WELL, WE HAVE TO COME BACK ON TO, TO ADJOURN.
ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I DID WE DO THIS? I OKAY.
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WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION OF VOTES FOR TAKEN NO, UH, NO DECISIONS WERE MADE, BUT WE ARE MOVING WITH, UM, EMOTION OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR A SEAT ON THE DON RYAN BOARD.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE A HARDY BILL SEAT, WHICH IS MICHAEL SIM BORE, UH, ON THE DON RYAN, UH, CENTER FOR INNOVATION BOARD THERE.
SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
SORRY FOR LENGTHS OF TIME, BUT, UM, I THINK WE GOT A LOT DONE TONIGHT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.