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YEAH.

[1. Call to Order]

WHAT ARE YOUR COMPLAINTS WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU PLEASE JOIN US IN THE CLINIC ALLEGIANCE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THEY DO VOCATION, WE GIVE BY PAST HAVE BEEN UP THE HILL TO THAT ISLAND COMMUNITY CHURCH.

THAT'S IT? NOPE.

JUST NEED IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

LET US PRAY.

BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME, LORD.

WE JUST, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AND JUST, UH, PRAY FOR JUST AN AMAZING MEETING, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TOGETHER, TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

DO, UH, JUST PUTS YOU FIRST AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

LORD, I PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS.

I PRAY THAT YOU WILL JUST GIVE THEM WISDOM, GIVE THEM STRENGTH AS THEY LEAD US AND INTO THE FUTURE.

AND WHAT LIES AHEAD, LORD, I THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY PERSON HERE THAT JUST SERVES WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND ALL THEIR, AND THEIR LOVE FOR OUR CITY AND WHAT I JUST PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR THIS MEETING.

I PRAY THAT YOU DO YOUR THING AND THAT, UM, YOU JUST CONTINUE TO BLESS THE, WITH THOSE THAT ARE, ARE, UM, PART OF, PART OF HILTON HEAD BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE VISITING HILTON HEAD AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

LORD, I JUST PRAY A BLESSING OVER THIS AREA.

LORD, DO YOUR THING AS WE GIVE IT TO YOU IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[5. Approval of the Agenda]

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT HAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH,

[6. Approval of the Minutes]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 24TH AND APRIL SIX.

UH, MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF BOTH SETS OF MINUTES.

BACKUP ALL IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU BRING FORWARD TO THE TOWN MANAGER.

[7. Report of the Town Manager]

YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAS AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL MR. LAVON STEVEN.

SO I KNOW I SAW HIM ON THE SCREEN SOMEWHERE, THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE CHAIR.

UM, MR. STEVENS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU, MR. ORLANDO.

AND UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AND OF OUR PUBLIC AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, I'M HERE TO GIVE THE, A QUARTERLY REPORT FOR OUR DELEGATES, YOUR LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE TASK FORCE.

UH, WE, WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, UH, AND THE 2021 MEETING CALENDAR.

WE ESTABLISHED THAT ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST.

UH, WE ALSO HAD A, UH, GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE MEETING ON, ON, ON MARCH THE FIRST AS WELL.

STAFF PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC PLANNING.

COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS FOR, UH, PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, ESTABLISHING A PLAN TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTIES AND EHRS PROPERTIES AND UPDATES FOR OPTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY PAYING TAXES.

WE CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THE DATA TO BE GATHERED, UH, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROGRESS OR THE LACK OF PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

UH, JUST AS A MEASURE OF HOW WE'RE DOING AS A TASK FORCE AND HOW WE ARE DOING AS A TOWN AND AS A COMMUNITY, UH, WHICH FEEL LIKE THAT ISSUE IS IMPORTANT.

SO AGAIN, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS AND, UH, WHAT IT IS, THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

UM, THERE WERE NO WORKSHOPS HELD, UH, DURING THIS QUARTER.

I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL, UH, ALSO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS TO WORK TOGETHER ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS EDUCATE THE MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL, WHO ARE MAKING SOME VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS.

UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS COUNCIL TOWN COUNCIL MET ON APRIL THE SIXTH, 2021 FOR THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE LMO, TO CREATE FAMILY COMPOUND

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AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT INCLUDED, UH, ADDING THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS PROVISIONS TO THE LMR, UH, TO PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND DRAINAGE, EASEMENTS, AND FAST TRACK DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE HAVING SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES WITH MOVING SOME OF THOSE PIECES FORWARD, SUCH AS THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

UM, I WILL SAY HONESTLY THAT THAT DEFINITELY CAUSES SOME ANXIETY AND SOME HEARTBURN, UH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND TASK FORCE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW FOR SOME THREE YEARS MORE OR LESS.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS OVER THE PAST MANY YEARS, THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS.

AND EVEN LONGER THAN THAT, EVEN BEFORE THERE WAS A TOWN, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CHALLENGES, UH, WITH HOW THIS CULTURE THRIVES AND EXIST ON AN ISLAND.

WE ARE BEING DIMINISHED, UH, BY A LOT OF FACTORS, MOST OF ALL DEVELOPMENT, AND CERTAINLY BEING ABLE TO USE PROPERTY, UH, AS WE CAN.

AND OF COURSE, TAXES, IT NEEDS TO BE AN ISSUE.

REASON I MAKE THOSE POINTS IS BECAUSE THE COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS I HAVE FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES, WITHIN THE GULLAH CULTURE, AND ALSO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE LARGER COMMUNITY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED AND AGAIN, NEED TO BE EDUCATED AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE ARE INTENDING TO DO AS WAS DIRECTED BY RETREAT UPTOWN COUNCIL.

UM, THREE YEARS AGO, THREE PLUS YEARS AGO.

NOW WE CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THIS CULTURE IS IMPORTANT, UH, PIECE OF, OF OUR ISLAND FABRIC, PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE WITHIN THE CULTURE, CERTAINLY FEEL FRUSTRATION AND MANY ARE WAITING FOR, UH, THESE PIECES TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT THEY CAN DO THINGS WITH THEIR PROPERTY, SUCH AS SUBDIVIDE.

UH, SOME PEOPLE DO HAVE, UH, AMBITIONS TO DEVELOP AND OTHERS JUST SIMPLY WANT TO LIVE AND ENJOY THE PROPERTY THAT THEY LIVE ON.

AND THAT CERTAINLY INVOLVES WHATEVER OCCUPATIONS THEY HAVE.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENJOYING FOR YEARS.

AND THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION.

UH, NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THERE IS A DELAY AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN, WITH OUR COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION, WE WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT HOPEFULLY THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A, ANOTHER STUMBLING BLOCK ON THE PATH TO GETTING SOMETHING PASSED.

I ENCOURAGE AND IMPLORE OUR TOWN COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF TO USE THIS AS A PRIORITY.

UH, PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN FEELING THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES WITH HOW WE USE OUR PROPERTY AND USE THE LAND HERE, WHICH IS A GREAT BIG PIECE OF CULTURAL PRESERVATION.

UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, I JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP US AS A PRIORITY, UH, AS IT WAS ESTABLISHED SOME TWO, THREE OR THREE YEARS AGO.

NOW, WHEN WE SAY WE, THIS CULTURE IS IMPORTANT TO OUR TOWN, UH, IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST SAYING IT OR ENJOY, UH, THE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO WITHIN OUR CULTURE, WITHIN THE MUSIC OR THE FOOD OR THE DANCING OR THE JUMPING AROUND, BUT THERE'S MORE TO IT BECAUSE THESE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTING PEOPLE'S LIVES EVEN AS WE SPEAK.

SO, UH, AGAIN, I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE.

HOWEVER, I ASK THAT YOU CAN ALSO CONSIDER THAT WE KEEP THOSE TASKFORCE IN PLACE UNTIL WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE MOVING FORWARD, AND WE HAVE, UH, ESTABLISHED A GREAT TRUST IN OUR LEADERS AND OUR TOWN COUNCIL, MEN, AND WOMEN.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TO MAKE THIS RECORD.

AND I'M TAKING THAT THIS TIME, MR. MAYOR.

YES, DAVID.

UM, THERE WAS, UM, A REFERENCE TO A DELAY DUE TO LEGAL CHALLENGES.

WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? I HAVEN'T, HADN'T HEARD ABOUT THAT.

WELL, NOT FAMILIAR.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I KNOW THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN STANFORD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TERRY AND JENNIFER RAY ON THE REVISIONS, UM, THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

UM,

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BUT IN TERMS OF A LEGAL DELAY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF TERRY OR JENNIFER ON THE CALL TONIGHT, PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE A FEW EDITS, SOME CLARIFICATION POINTS MADE AND BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

COUNCILMAN STANFORD IS INVOLVED TO, UH, IDENTIFY AND HELP WITH THOSE EDITS.

AND I'VE BEEN TRACKING THOSE EMAILS AND THINKING IT'S MOVING ALONG ANTICIPATING IN EARLY MAY, SECOND AND FINAL READING ON THE AGENDA.

OH, I CAN GO A GENERATOR FOR THE RECORD, JENNIFER RAY.

AND I'LL JUST CLARIFY, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S A LEGAL CHALLENGE AT THIS POINT, BUT THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AT YOUR LAST MEETING AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. STANFORD ON CURTIS HAS WEIGHED IN AND WANTS US TO AVOID FUTURE LEGAL CHALLENGE BY CALLING THOSE USES AND ADDING THEM TO THE USE TABLES FOR ALL OF THE DISTRICTS THAT OVERLAP WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP LANGUAGE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHERE WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO YOU ALL, UM, WHICH WILL DELAY IT COMING BACK BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

UH, I, I THINK JUST FOR, UH, TO BE CLEAR, IN MY OPINION, AT OUR LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION REGARDING, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE THE, THE WIGGLE ROOM OR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERPRETATION, UH, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE, UH, FOR THAT WIGGLE ROOM.

I THINK WHERE I COME OUT ON THAT IS THAT IF, IF WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE ISSUE OF ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, UH, DECISIONS IS SOMETHING THAT APPLIES TO THE, UH, ENTIRE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE OR NOT LEN THANK YOU.

UM, FOR CLARIFICATION HERE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, YOU ARE CORRECT, DAVID, THERE WERE QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT A DISCRETIONARY REDUCTION OF THE SETBACKS AND SO FORTH THAT ARE AFFORDED IN THIS ORDINANCE.

I REACTED TO THAT BY STUDYING THAT FURTHER AND SEE THAT THE ORDINANCE CAN ALLOW US AND HIS CURRENT DRAFT ALLOWS A UP TO A 30% REDUCTION OF FIVE FOOT AND 10 FOOT SETBACKS.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCRETIONARY RATHER.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING IF IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE A VARIANCE FROM THOSE SETBACKS, THAT THE MOVE TO THE BZA, WHICH HAS THE JUDICIAL POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION BASED UPON VERY CAREFULLY PRESCRIBED CATEGORIES AND QUESTIONS THAT MUST BE ANSWERED.

I THINK THAT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE AMENDED ACCORDINGLY.

UM, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH, UH, TERRY LEWIS, UM, EARLIER, AND, UH, IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT NOW, IN FACT, CURTIS COLTRANE IS REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.

IN ADDITION, LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE AGAIN, I SEE THAT IT WOULD ALLOW OUR SOULS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN OWNED BY TRADITIONAL FAMILIES.

THE LINE OF A TRADITIONAL FAMILY SINCE 1956, COULD BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR TREATMENT UNDER THIS.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT IS VERY BROAD AND VERY OPEN AND IT SHOULD BE NARROWED AND SHOULD BE THOUGHT THROUGH MORE CAREFULLY, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE MAP OF THE HISTORIC CULTURAL AREAS, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, WAS STRIPPED AWAY FROM IT, WHICH MEANS THAT ANY PARCEL, UH, COULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BREADTH OF THAT.

UM, AND I RAISED THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE BEING DEALT WITH, AND I THINK THERE WILL BE FURTHER HEARINGS.

AND I DO HOPE AND EXPECT THAT WE'LL ABLE TO PASS A REVISE VERSION OF THIS ORDINANCE VERY SOONER.

IT WOULD BE MY HOPE THAT IF THE

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LANGUAGE ABOUT DISCRETIONARY ADJUSTMENTS IS EXCLUDED IN ONE PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE, THEN IT WOULD BE EXCLUDED IN ALL JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I AGREE, GLENN, UH, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE OWNERSHIP.

MY GUESS IS HOWEVER THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW NON NATIVE ISLAND LANDOWNERS WHO OWN PROPERTY ON THE ISLAND BACK IN 1956, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ALEX.

UM, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'M THOROUGHLY CONFUSED AT THIS POINT.

UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT, UH, WHAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL IS SIMPLY THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, WHICH THERE'S AN OWNERSHIP CRITERIA ATTACHED TO THAT.

UM, THE, THE, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AS A WHOLE IS STILL SITTING IN THE LAP OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL CLEAR ON THAT PRESSING FORWARD.

AND, UH, THE REASON THAT I'M MAKING THAT POINT IS BECAUSE AS I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED, UH, SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AS IT REGARDS TO THE OFFICIALS, UH, DISCRETIONARY, UH, ABILITY TO REDUCE, UH, THE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS.

THAT'S ONE PIECE THAT SAME QUESTION.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S IN QUESTION IS WHAT CURTIS IS DESCRIBING AS HOW IT LAYS OUT IN THE TABLES.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL CLEARED ADULTS ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET CLEANED UP BEFORE WE GO TO SECOND READING, AM I INCORRECT? THERE ONE, THERE, THERE IS A FURTHER POINT ON THIS.

ALEX, IF I CAN EXPLAIN THIS CORRECTLY, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO ALLOW A FAMILY WHICH HAS LIVED HERE A LINE OF A FAMILY THAT HAS LIVED HERE SINCE 1956, BUT DOES NOT OWN A PARCEL OF LAND AND IS NOT OWNED A PARCEL OF LAND SINCE 1956.

IT WOULD ALLOW THAT FAMILY TO ACQUIRE A PARCEL ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND, AND THAT WOULD THEN BE ELIGIBLE FOR TREATMENT AS A FAMILY COMPOUND AND A FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

AND I EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE BREADTH OF THAT.

UM, I HAVE MUCH LESS CONCERNED, PROBABLY NO CONCERN IF THAT IS RESTRICTED TO THE AREAS, LAID OUT AS THE HISTORIC CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THE OVERLAY.

THAT IS IF THAT WAS PUT BACK INTO THIS ORDINANCE, IT DEALS WITH THAT QUESTION.

AND THAT IS THE THIRD POINT.

I HOPE I HAVEN'T CONFUSED YOU FURTHER.

NO, NO, THANK YOU, GLENN.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, IS, IS CURTIS AVAILABLE TO, TO, TO SPEAK ON THIS AT ALL PEOPLE, JOSH? HOLD ON A MINUTE.

THERE, THERE WE GO.

YEAH, YOU'RE ON CHRIS.

I AM ON, SO YES, SIR.

MR. BROWN.

I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME.

OKAY.

UM, WELL WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH THE MEETING, SO I WON'T, I WANT TO TAKE UP OUR TIME HERE AT THE POINT, THE POINT I'M MAKING HERE.

UM, MR. MAYOR AND MR. ORLANDO.

OKAY.

ROUDETTE STUDY 1995.

AM I CORRECT? COUNCILMAN NAMES? YES.

MASTER PLAN 1998 IN A SERIES OF OTHER PLANS ADOPTED BY THE TOWN AND PUT ON THE SHELF.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.

IT'S TAKEN US ALMOST 30 YEARS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE WILL BE ADOPTING COLD,

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THAT WILL HELP OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ON HILTON HEAD TO HELP PRESERVE ALCOHOL TOO.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE NEED TO HAVE MR. COLTRANE OR SOME OTHER LEGAL MAN ATTACHED TO IT SO THAT WE DON'T GET THIS CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE.

AND HALF THE BACKUP, ALL OF US AS POLICY MAKERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILMAN LINUX REPRESENT GULLAH PEOPLE ON HILTON HEAD AND THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S ALMOST EMBARRASSING AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE REALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND ENGAGE WITH THE LEGAL MIND, LITTLE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT, I'M LOOKING FOR A SEVEN.

OH, AND LET'S MOVE ON.

I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN STANFORD STEPPING IN AND HELPING US OUT HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THIS IS WORK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WAY BEFORE I GOT TO COUNCIL.

THIS IS STEVENS IS BEING KIND WHEN HE SAYS THERE'S ANXIETY.

UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE RULES THAT THEY'LL WALKED THERE, THERE'S MORE THAN ANXIETY.

I JUST WANT US TO RESPECT THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, I'LL HOLD MY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO ON THE BACK END OF THIS TO, TO GET IT TO A BETTER PLACE.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MS. MISSILE, MR. STEAMS? UM, YES.

I, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION, UM, FOR MR. STANFORD, IF YOU COULD REPEAT YOUR EXPLANATION OR YOUR PERSON ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES ON THE ISLAND OR HOW THAT WORDS WAS FAMILIES WHO HAVE BEEN HERE ESTABLISH HERE SINCE 1956, BEING EXACTLY WHAT THE CONCERN IS.

THE CONCERN IS THAT , AS IT STANDS NOW IS NOT LIMITED TO THE HISTORIC CULTURAL AREAS OF THE ISLAND AND A FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE AT LEAST 1956 ON THE ISLAND, BUT DOES NOT OWN LAND, BUT ACQUIRE A PARCEL ANYWHERE WITHOUT REGARD TO BEING PART OF THE HISTORIC CULTURAL DISTRICT AND HAVE THAT QUALIFY FOR FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH ITS MORE PERMISSIVE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

THAT'S THE CONCERN.

I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES IT FOR YOU.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS ESTABLISHING THE OVERLAY DISTRICT DOES NOT, UH, THAT DOESN'T HELP REMEDY THAT CONCERN.

I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH FOLKS TO TRY AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.

SO WE DO REMEDY THAT CONCERN IN ORDER TO GET THIS ORDINANCE PASSED.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CONCEPTS OR THE ORDINANCE.

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE BREADTH OF IT.

THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTAND.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND AS MR. BROWN SAID THAT, UH, AGAIN, THIS TASK FORCE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR SOME THREE PLUS YEARS.

AND IF THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT, UM, WE'VE ASKED THIS COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VARIOUS STUDIES.

WE HAD ANOTHER STUDY DONE WITH THE TASK FORCE WALKER AND ASSOCIATES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR OVER THE YEARS IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON DEFINITIONS OF WHAT A NATIVE ISLANDER IS, WHO IS A PART OF THE CULTURE.

AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BRING IN, AS MR. BROWN SAID SOME OTHER LEGAL MINDS, BUT WE DEFINITELY SHOULD BE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM ALL ALONG THE WAY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD AND GIVE SOME JAMIE.

SO I JUST WANT TO PICK UP ON ONE THING.

THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.

I THINK ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, UM, IS VERY USEFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WITH ANY ORDINANCE THAT'S WRITTEN AND PLACED INTO OUR CODE, THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.

AND SOME OF THE, UM, CONCERNS WITH THIS DISCUSSION

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IS THAT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT EACH CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE IMPACTS SOMETHING, SOME COMMUNITY, SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, THEIR RIGHTS AND THEIR EXPECTATIONS.

AND SO WHILE WE LOOK AT PERHAPS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT, UM, PUTS NOT EVERYONE IN AN EQUAL FOOTING ACROSS THE ISLAND AND THEREFORE, UM, IT TENDS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT THAT WAY TO LEAD SOMEONE AND OUTSIDE OF PERHAPS TO THINK THAT WITHIN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT, THERE AREN'T RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WITH PARTICULAR EXPECTATIONS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTIES, THAT NOW WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY.

AND SO AS I STARTED, I'LL FINISH THAT WITH EACH AND EVERY ORDINANCE THAT IS WRITTEN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS, WHAT ITS MEANING IS, WHAT IT'S, WHAT BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO BEGIN WITH.

IT NEEDS TO BE CAREFULLY SCRUTINIZED WITH THOSE IDEAS AND CONCEPTS IN MIND THAT EACH TIME SOMETHING IS DONE, IT HAS A ROLLING EFFECT AND IMPACT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

AND SO THEREFORE A BALANCED AND COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW AND SENSITIVITY TO THAT WITH REGARD TO THE ENTIRE ISLAND IS APPROPRIATE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT AS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS ON MY MIND AND MANY PEOPLES AT THIS POINT, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? THANK YOU.

UM, UH, ONE QUICK THING, JUST TO CONFIRM, WE'VE HEARD LITTLE BIT RECENTLY ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, WHAT IT'S REALLY REFERRING TO AS AN AMERICAN RESCUE EVENTUAL MOVE ON.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE FROM THIS HISTORY FROM THIS STUFF.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, LAVONNE.

APPRECIATE IT.

GREAT.

GOOD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UM, ONE THING THAT WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT IS THIS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

UM, IT WAS A CONGRESSIONAL HOUSE RESOLUTION SIGNED INTO LAW ON MARCH 11TH.

UM, WE'LL HEAR A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW THAT IT CAME UP AT, UM, OUR FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE MEETING TODAY.

IT'S AN AMERICAN, IT'S AN EMERGENCY RELIEF BILL.

WE DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT AT THIS TIME.

WE WERE MONITORING IT WHAT QUITE OFTEN, AND IT'S LEGISLATION ANTICIPATED TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS WE RESPOND TO COVID.

SO FOR PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES, OFFSETTING REVENUE, LOSSES, BOLSTERING ECONOMIC RECOVERY, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FORMAL GUIDANCE ON IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT TO DO TO BE READY.

SO TO BE READY FOR THE FUNDS ARE TRANSFERRED.

UM, AND WE ARE, I'LL JUST ASSURE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

WE ARE, UH, REALLY IS JUST TO SET UP THE FUNDS IN A SEPARATE RESTRICTED ACCOUNT AND, UH, PLEASE KNOW, MARIN COUNCIL THAT I'LL BE, UM, WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO DEVELOP POLICIES AND PROCESSES NECESSARY TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES.

SO STAY TUNED ON THAT FOR A LITTLE MORE.

AND, UH, MR. LENNOX, I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH JOSH AND JOHN TROYER TO BRING SOME INFORMATION BACK TO COMMITTEE, AS WE LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE WEEKS TO COME.

THAT'S AWESOME.

OKAY, GOOD.

WE'LL GO ON TO A REPORTS

[8. Reports from the Members of Council]

BY COMMITTEE, ANY GENERAL REPORT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER? JUST THE BROWN.

YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I JUST WANT TO, UM, MAKE THIS COMMENT, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEED AND THE, THE, THE LAW BEHIND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WOULD ASK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DEFINITELY RESPECTING SENSITIVE ITEMS. I PERSONNEL MATTERS AND MANY OTHERS OF COURSE, BUT WE JUST ERR ON THE SIDE OF TRANSPARENCY, AS WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT ITEMS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY ENGAGED, CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES AND MANY OTHERS.

AND WE, WE ALL HAD, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS AT HAND.

AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND MR. BROWN, MR. LANDO AND MYSELF, BOTH AGREE ON THAT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY

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CAREFUL AS TO WHAT WE PUT ON EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE FUTURE.

MS. MRS. STANFORD.

THANK YOU.

UM, I ATTEND THE LATS MEETINGS AS THE TOWN REPRESENTATIVE.

LATS IS THE REGIONAL GROUP MADE UP OF THE VARIOUS REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AT THIS RECENT MEETING, AS WELL AS OCCURRED.

AT MOST MEETINGS, WE GET A REPORT FROM BOT.

I WANTED TO REPORT WHAT WAS STATED AT THAT MEETING SO THAT IT IS BROADER PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE WHO IS THE ENGINEER IN CHARGE OF THIS PROJECT AND AFFORDED THAT RIGHT NOW, THE SCHEDULE FOR RELEASE OF THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE FOR THE HIGHWAY POLICY, FOR THAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE TO THE ANNOUNCED AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND SESSIONS DURING JULY.

THAT IS GOOD NEWS THAT HAS BEEN PUT OFF MONTHS AND MONTHS.

MOST RECENTLY HAS BEEN PUT OFF BECAUSE OF THE WORK AND EFFORT OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE OF COUNTY AND TOWN, PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING AS OVERSIGHT THERE.

UH, AND HE REPORTS THAT THEY ARE WORKING COOPERATIVELY WITH THAT COMMITTEE.

I HAVE SPOKEN MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE WHO AGREE, UH, THAT THERE HAS BEEN GOOD COOPERATION, GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH HDR, WHICH IS A THIRD-PARTY ENGINEER, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN RETAINED TO REVIEW THIS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.

FINALLY, IT'S BEEN NOTED A NUMBER OF TIMES PUBLICLY AND OTHERWISE, UH, THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ANIMATIONS KNOWING THE EFFECT OF THE CHANGES IN THE HIGHWAY THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THAT MEETING THAT AT LEAST 15 DAYS BEFORE THAT MEETING ANIMATIONS WILL IN FACT BE PRODUCED, THE ANIMATIONS WILL SHOW TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR FROM A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW, IF YOU WILL, AS WELL AS THE, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF A DRIVER MOVING THROUGH THE THING.

SO THAT WILL BE VERY USEFUL INFORMATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO A DECISION POINT FROM DDOT, AND I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THE BROADER PUBLIC ADVISED OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THIS CARD TO PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GLENN, OR ANY OTHER GENERAL REPORTS? I JUST HAVE TWO MS. MS. DAME, JULIA, ASKING YOU ABOUT THE SUMMARY OF YESTERDAY'S MEETING.

CHRISTINA IS DOING THAT SUMMARY.

IT WILL BE OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT IF ANYBODY HAS A LONG DISCUSSION OR A LONG COMMENT, THEY WANT TO MAKE, IF THEY COULD SEND A COPY OF THAT COMMENT TO KRISTER, IT WOULD, WOULD AFFECT THE ACCURACY OF WHAT SHE HAS TO WRITE DOWN.

AND THE MANY HOURS SHE HAS TO SPEND TRYING TO TRANSCRIBE THIS STUFF.

SO IF YOU HAVE A LONG THING AND IT'S FINE, JUST SEND A COPY OF THAT.

THE CHRISTIAN WILL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE RECORDS AND YESTERDAY'S MEETING WILL BE TRANSCRIBED BY CHRISTO.

OKAY.

THE REPORTS BY MS. DEBRA HAWKINS, UH, NEVER REPORTED AT THIS TIME, MR. MAYOR, MS. DIANE WAS THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, THERE HASN'T BEEN A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING SINCE THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, THERE IS A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY AT THREE O'CLOCK.

THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON BUILDING MASSEY HEIGHTS THAT BACKS AND BUFFERS PRIMARILY IN HIGHER DENSITY AREAS.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT CHRIS IS GOING TO SEND OUT A SUMMARY OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WORKSHOP YESTERDAY.

UM, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, I URGENTLY HOPE A TRUE PA POR A PATH FORWARD CAN BE FORMULATED AND ADOPTED WITH A SERIOUS COMMITMENT FOR ACTION.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR NEXT WORKSHOP IN TWO WEEKS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. LENNOX.

UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE MET THIS AFTERNOON AND WE HAD A FINANCIAL REPORT FROM JOHN TROYER ON THIRD QUARTER, MARCH 31ST YEAR TO DATE FINANCES COMPARING THEM TO FISCAL YEAR 2020.

AND I'M WAITING FOR A REPORT, A MAYOR THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME, THIS FISCAL YEAR, YEAR, TODAY, REVENUES EXCEED YEAR TODAY, REVENUES OF LAST YEAR AND BUDGET.

GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR .

UM, PROCLAMATIONS THERE ON AN APPEARANCE BY

[10. Appearance by Citizens]

CITIZENS.

WE HAVE ONE

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CITIZEN ON THE LINE.

MR. POPE, MR. HOGAN.

YES.

AFTER THEN, AFTER THE CPA, JOHN TROYER TOWN ACCOUNTING AND AUDITS MUST BE INVESTIGATED AND FORENSICALLY AUDITED AND INTERNAL HIRED AUDIT ONLY SHOWS THE NUMBERS OF MR. TROYER, RILEY GRUBER AND NOW LOCAL INCESTUOUS CROOK MARKER LANDO.

ONCE YOU TO SEE ORLANDO EAGLE, LEGALLY USED TOWN TAXES AND EMPLOYEES, WHEN HE WAS A BLUFFTON TOWN MANAGER TEAM WITH BILL MILES AND LISA SOCO.

YOU'RE ALSO ALL IN VIOLATION OF MY ATEX FOR YOU, MR. ORLANDO, IN TAMPA, PARKER BUSH AS NEW TOWN EMPLOYEES.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU HAD BOTH ALLOWING THE ONGOING ILLEGAL SECRET MISUSE OF ATEX FUNDS BEING ISSUED PHIL MILES AND THE HILTON HAD CHECKED BY TOM LENNOX, DAVID AMES, WHO LED IN SCHEME, THE CORRUPTED DMO CONTRACT WITH CROOKED TOWN LAWYERS, COLTRANE AND THINKER.

MS. BUSH, YOU ARE A LAWYER WHEN YOU WERE DEPOSED OR THE FBI, IRS OR TREASURY CALLS YOU AND ASK YOU WHY YOU ELECT A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT TO BE SIGNED.

THAT ALLOWS BILL MILES TO CONTINUE HIS SECRET ILLEGAL USE OF MILLIONS OF TEXTBOOKS.

WHAT WILL YOU SAY? HOW WILL YOU AND ORLANDO ANSWER WHILE WE'RE 1,000,008 TAX BLONDES WERE TAKEN TO CANADA TO DEVELOP THE DMO APP AND WEBSITE TO FILL PHIL OWNS NOT THE TOWN.

TAXPAYERS.

WHY DO YOU ALLOW BILL MILES TO PAY HIMSELF OVER $400,000 SALARY GENERATED FROM ILLEGAL USE OF EIGHT TAX FUNDS FOR LIFTED ADVERTISING SALES AND PROFITS DURING THE YEAR TO ZERO OUT IN THIS ON A YEAR END TAX RETURNS WITH HIS CROOKED CPAS RAY DEAL AND RAY BORKO, HOW WILL YOU BOTH ANSWER TO ALL THIS? AND THE VIOLATE? THE MANY SOUTH CAROLINA AND FEDERAL LAWS WERE ALLOWING WITH BONDS ISSUED TO THE TOWN BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA TREASURY, THE BANK, MS. BUSH, MR. ORLANDO, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FULL ACCOUNTING OF TAX BONDS? THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I'LL TELL BOTH OF YOU THIS COUNCIL, ALL THE CHAMBER MEMBERS, ALL TAX PAYERS, IT'S A SECRET SAUCE AND IT'S NO ONE'S DARK BUSINESS.

CORRECT.

DID YOU BOTH KNOW AS NEW PANT EMPLOYEES, BIG FENDER ITALY, MCCAIN MCCANN IS CRONIES HARKINS AND BAKKER LENNOX ALL SAID THEY WENT TO THE CHAMBER OFFICES TO SEE THE ACCOUNTING WITH BILL MILES AND HIS EMBEZZLING CROOKED COUNT.

THE RATE DEAL AND DETERMINED IN ONE OUT FOR INSPECTION.

THAT BILL MILES WAS HONEST WITH THE CHAMBER'S USE OF TAX BONDS WAS ALL LEGAL AND TRANSPARENT.

I ASSUME THAT YOU BOTH HAD EVERYONE FULLY UNDERSTANDS.

THIS WAS A LIE AND FRAUD ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL.

AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DEPOSITIONS AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND ASK YOU A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[11.a. Second Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2021-09 Permanent Drainage Easement at the Former Hilton Head Christian Academy Site]

SECOND READING PROPOSAL IN 2021 FOR THE PERMANENT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY MOVES FROM PROVO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR DISCUSSION, NO DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER VOCAL MR. BROWN, BEFORE MR. HARKINS.

MR. AMES, MRS. BECKER.

YES.

MR. LENOX, MR. STANFORD AND MAYOR MCCANN.

YES.

[12.a. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2021-11 – Volunteers in Medicine Parking]

NEW VISITORS.

FIRST READING PROPOSAL INNINGS 2021 DASH 11 OF VOLUNTEERS AND MEDICINES PARKING A MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND BY MRS. STANFORD, YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? JUST AMES.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT ALL LOCAL, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS DEALING WITH THAT ONSITE, UH, ISOLATED WETLAND WILL APPLY TO THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

I'M I'M SURE IT WILL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THAT PUBLICLY.

I CAN CONFIRM THAT, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE SHOULD TAKE THE BOTH PLEASE? YES, SIR.

MR. BROWN, MR. HARKINS, MR. AMES.

YES.

MRS. BECKER.

YES.

MR. LENEZ MR. STANFORD.

YES.

MAYOR MCCANN.

YES.

WHERE DID

[12.b. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2021-12 – Northridge Conservation Easement Modification]

YOU EAT PROPOSAL? IN THIS 20 YEARS? 21 YEARS 12, THE NORTH RIDGE

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CONSERVATION EASEMENT MODIFICATION OF MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND MYSTIC DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YES, SIR.

MR. BROWN, MR. HARKINS, MR. AMES? YES.

MR. .

MR. STAMPER? YES.

MA'AM.

YOU CAN.

YES, SIR.

[12.c. Consideration of a Resolution – Workforce Housing Covenants and Agreements]

CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS.

UH, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT DAMS DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

YES, SIR.

MR. BROWN, MR. HARKINS, MR. AMES? YES.

THIS IS BETTER.

YES.

MR. LOPEZ, MR. STANFORD? YES MA'AM CAN, UH, THERE IS NO EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED FOR PLEASE.

TECHNICAL MUST CONTAIN MR. STAN PRAYER.

PAUL, A FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.