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WE WILL CALL THE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH, 2020, UH, BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE DO LOVING AND GRACIOUS.
YOU'RE INDEED THE GIVER OF ALL GIFTS.
AND WE THANK YOU TODAY FOR ALL YOUR BLESSINGS, YOU HAVE SO GRACIOUSLY BESTOWED UPON THIS WONDERFUL TOWN.
WE CONTINUE TO SEEK YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, COURAGE, AND STRENGTH.
BE WITH US IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND HELP US TO BE WISE IN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE PLACED THEIR TRUST IN OUR CONFIDENCE, IN OUR LEADERSHIP.
WE ALSO WANT TO PRAY FOR OUR NEXT GENERATION OF FUTURE LEADERS WHO CONTINUE TO MAKE US ALL PROUD IN THIS.
MOVING ON TO ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, MR. ORLANDO, ANYTIME, IF NO CHANGES IS YOUR EMOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
UH, FIRST ARE THE REGULAR MENU MEETING MINUTES OF JANUARY 14TH.
I WILL ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T HERE.
IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOVE? IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
NEXT IS THE WORKSHOP MEETING OF JANUARY 21ST.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATEMENTS SAYING AYE.
UM, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MICHELLE KNIGHT FOR BEING HERE WITH LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
UM, SHE COMES TO US WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF TOWN OF BLUFFTON NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND IF SHE WILL START, DO WE HAVE A COMMENT OR PUBLIC HEARING OR YES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
JUST AS A MATTER OF HOUSEKEEPING, WE DO HAVE OFFICER PEREZ WITH US IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM SO THAT IF WE HAVE ANY SPANISH LANGUAGE SPEAKING, UM, PEOPLE PRESENT WHO NEED TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN BE PROVIDED THAT.
DOES ANYONE NEED TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE? UM, OFFICER PRES, DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT IN SPANISH FOR ME? OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, JUST IN CASE.
AND ALSO OUTSIDE, THERE IS A CLIPBOARD WITH A SIGN IN SHEET SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'D ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN THAT.
SO WE'LL HAVE A RECORD OF ATTENDANCE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE I'M STANDING IN THE WOODS IN THREE VOLUMES, IF YOU DO LEAVE AFTER A PRESENTATION OR SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE DO THAT, IT HELPS US, IT HELPS LOOK COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
UM, SO PLEASE DO SIGN THAT CLIPBOARD IF YOU HAVEN'T OKAY.
AND THEN TO GET ONTO THE MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION FOR 2020, UM, WE HAVE LET'S GO ON AND WE'LL SKIP THROUGH THE FAIR HOUSING APPROXIMATELY, UM, 20, $20 MILLION THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS, UM, PROGRAM.
BASICALLY WE HAVE TO MEET ONE OF THREE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES.
THE PRIMARY ONE IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME QUALIFIED FOR BEEFER COUNTY IN BLUFFED, A FAMILY OF FOUR MAKING LESS THAN $63,500 A YEAR WOULD BE A QUALIFYING INDIVIDUAL UNDER THIS GRANT PROGRAM.
THE $20.1 MILLION THAT IS ALLOCATED WILL BE DIVIDED AMONG THREE BROW PROGRAM CATEGORIES.
THOSE PROGRAMS ARE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, AND REGIONAL PLANNING.
UM, I WILL TALK MOSTLY ABOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE MOSTLY DOING DOWN HERE.
UM, FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S BASICALLY FOUR SET ASIDES.
UM, ONE IS A SPRING SET ASIDE AND THE OTHER THREE-YEAR FALLS.
SO BESIDES, UM, THEY'D HAVE DIFFERENT VARYING AMOUNTS OF MONEY ALLOCATED TO THEM.
FIRST, WE'LL TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
THERE IS $11.2 MILLION ALLOCATED.
THERE IS MID-MARCH APPLICATION REQUESTS AND A MID APRIL APPLICATION
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DEADLINE.THIS IS WHAT WE CALL OUR WATER SEWER DRAINAGE ROADS ROUND.
THE MAXIMUM FUNDING AMOUNT IS $750,000 FOR A GRANT PRO PROJECT UNDER THIS PROGRAM.
UM, THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR WAIVERS ON THIS AND THIS YEAR THEY HAVE NOT KEPT THE WAIVER AT $1 MILLION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LARGE PROJECT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND ASK FOR THREE OR $4 MILLION, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT TIPS OVER A MILLION AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO IT AS ONE PROJECT, YOU CAN DO IT THIS YEAR.
WE CAN MAKE A REQUEST FOR WAIVER.
UM, THE SECOND SET ASIDE THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT.
THERE'S $3 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THIS.
THIS IS A FALL FUNDING ROUND, UM, SET ASIDE WITH AN AUGUST APPLICATION REQUEST AND A SEPTEMBER DEADLINE.
UM, THE TYPES OF PROJECTS WE DO HERE ARE BASICALLY TYPE PROJECTS.
WE DO DEMOLITION OF WHITE ELEPHANT BUILDINGS IS WHAT WE CALL THEM.
WE CAN DO DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE A MAXIMUM THERE FOR 700 S UP TO $750,000 THIS YEAR ON THAT WE CAN DO PLANNING FOR REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE CAN LOOK AT LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITIES THAT BENEFIT A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME GROUPS.
SO WE COULDN'T, FOR EXAMPLE, NOT THAT YOU NEED IT, UM, IMPROVED TOWN HALL, BUT WE COULD DO THINGS LIKE IMPROVE A LOCAL HEALTH CLINIC THAT SERVES LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS ARE, IF Y'ALL HAD A SATELLITE OFFICE SAY OF DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES DOWN HERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT DEMOLITION OF THE LAFA DATED AND VACANT STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT OWNED PUBLICLY, THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL TO SUPPORT CRIME PREVENTION.
WE CAN LOOK AT FIRE SUBSTATIONS AND FIRETRUCKS.
WE CAN LOOK AT HEALTH CLINIC FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENTS EQUIPMENT, AND WE CAN LOOK AT PUBLIC FACILITY MODIFICATIONS TO MAKE SOMETHING MORE, UM, ACCESSIBLE FOR THE DISABLED.
THE MAXIMUM FUNDING HERE, AS I SAID IS $500,000 FOR EVERYTHING, BUT THE STREETSCAPE TYPE PROJECTS AND THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR UP TO 750,000.
UM, THE NEXT THING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, OR WAIT A MINUTE, I SKIPPED SOMETHING HERE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR A MINUTE.
SPECIAL PROJECTS HAS A FALL DEADLINE AS WELL WITH THEIR SAME AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER DEADLINES.
THERE'S $600,000 ALLOCATED THERE.
THIS IS A SMALL SET ASIDE TO DO, UM, PROJECTS THAT DON'T REALLY FIT IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES OR ARE SMALL PROJECTS THAT FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY ARE ENERGY CONSERVATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OUR PARKS TRAILS, AND GREENWAYS.
UM, THIS YEAR THEY'VE UPPED THE MAXIMUM FUNDING AMOUNT TO 200,000 FROM ONE 50.
UM, I WILL SAY THIS W THEY FUNDED IN THE LAST FALL ROUND FOR PARKS PROJECTS.
AND I, ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR REGION PUT IN A PARKS PROJECT IF WE CAN DEVELOP SOMETHING THERE AND THAT, UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE.
THE NEXT SET OF SIDE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.
THIS IS LIKE YOUR GIRTHY SCHULTZ PROJECT.
THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED HERE.
YOU MUST HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
THERE'S AN AUGUST REQUEST AND SEPTEMBER DEADLINE ON THIS AS WELL.
THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO YOUR TOWN CENTER.
AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ASPECTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
YOU LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, MEANING THE WATER SEWER ROAD AND DRAINAGE.
YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, SUCH AS SIDEWALKS, SECURITY, LIGHTING, AND CAMERAS AND SUBSTATIONS.
YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSING STOCK AND THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITH THAT.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT PUBLIC SERVICES TOO, LIKE CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS, AND YOU USE A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT.
THE MAXIMUM FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THIS IS $500,000 UNLESS YOU'RE USING DOING INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE OF YOUR ACTIVITIES IN THAT PROJECT.
IF YOU'RE DOING INFRASTRUCTURE, MEANING ROADS, WATER, SEWER, UM, I THINK IN SOME CASES, DRAINAGE WHERE YOU'VE GOT SIDEWALKS INVOLVED, THEY WILL LET US APPLY FOR UP TO $750,000 FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
AND THE REASON THAT THE STATE DECIDED TO DO THIS WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE SEEING WHERE WE HAD, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS, WHERE THERE WERE INFRASTRUCTURE ACTIVITIES, AND IT WOULD EAT UP ALL THE MONEY.
SO THEY MIGHT PLAN TO DO WATER AND SEWER WORK AND DEMO SOME HOUSES.
BUT BY THE TIME THEY GOT THROUGH WITH THE COST OF THE WATER AND SEWER, THERE WAS NO MONEY LEFT TO DEMO.
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SO THEY'VE UPPED THAT FUNDING AMOUNT THERE TO 750,000 FOR THIS YEAR.UM, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO MEET A NATIONAL OBJECTIVE.
YOU EITHER BENEFIT THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE, MAJORITY OF WHICH YOU AID IN PREVENTION, A SLUM OR BLIGHT ARE YOU ADDRESSING, UM, URGENT NEED OR HEALTH THREAT OVER 90% OF THE MONEY THAT WE GET FUNDED IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS DOCUMENTED UNDER LOW TO MODERATE INCOME BENEFIT.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS PRIMARILY SLUM BLIGHT.
THE ONLY TIME YOUR URGENT NEED COMES INTO EFFECT IS WHEN THERE'S BEEN A NATURAL DISASTER, UM, DECLARED ALL THESE, UM, TYPES OF PROJECTS HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A 10%, UM, CASH MATCH CASH OR INCOME MATCH.
AND BASICALLY THE MORE YOU MATCH, THE BETTER YOU COMPETE.
ONE OTHER SET ASIDE THAT WE DO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TOO, IS READY TO GO.
THIS IS LIKE YOUR BIS FIVE PHASE FIVE PROJECT.
UM, YOU CAN DO ANY ACTIVITY IN COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE OR COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT, AND YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM FUNDING AMOUNT OF 500,000, BUT WAIVERS UNDER SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS YEAR.
UM, BASICALLY ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR PROJECT SHOVEL READY, MEANING YOU HAVE DESIGNED IT, YOU HAVE PERMITTED IT, YOU'VE ENVIRONMENTALLY, ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED.
IT YOU'VE ACQUIRED ALL YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU NEED TO ACQUIRE.
YOU MAKE YOUR APPLICATION REQUEST.
UM, YOU TURN YOUR APPLICATION IN 30 DAYS LATER.
AND IDEALLY WHAT THEY WANT IS FOR WITHIN 60 DAYS OF A GRANT AWARD, YOU'RE BIDDING YOUR PROJECT, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND BE I AS FIVE.
UM, THE OTHER PROGRAM I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
THIS DOES NOT HAVE A DEADLINE EITHER, BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IS YOU'RE PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE, MEANING WATER, SEWER DRAINAGE, ROADS, PUBLICLY OWNED TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S LOCATING IN THE AREA, UM, THAT'S EXPANDING IN THE AREA AND THEY HAVE JOB CREATION, COMMITMENTS, AND INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE OUTLINED TO YOU.
WE CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, PURSUE GRANT FUNDING TO HELP YOU WITH THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE INVOLVED IN THIS.
THE MAY, THE REMAINDER OF THE SET ASIDE COVERS REGIONAL PLANNING FOR US TO COME OUT AND DO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO HOLD PROJECT DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
LIKE THE ONE WE HAD LAST WEEK THAT THE TOWN ATTENDED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOUR STAFF AND DEVELOP NEW PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER BEYOND THAT IS FOR STATE ADMINISTRATION AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS PERFORMANCE THRESHOLD.
RIGHT NOW, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MEETS ALL THE PERFORMANCE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVE TO OPEN GRANTS, YOU CAN ASK FOR ONE MORE.
SO YOU HAVE ONE MORE SHOT UNTIL WE CLOSE.
UM, BEYOND THAT, UM, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT.
SO WHATEVER YOUR ONE SHOT IS THIS YEAR CAN NOT BE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT, AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE READY TO GO PROJECT.
SO IT COULDN'T BE A READY TO GO PROJECT, WHICH MEANS YOU COULD PURSUE SOMETHING UNDER COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU COULD PURSUE SOMETHING UNDER COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT, OR YOU COULD PURSUE SOMETHING UNDER SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS THE HOME CONSORTIUM EACH YEAR.
WE ALSO ASKED BEYOND THE TOWN RANKING THEIR PRIORITIES FOR CDBG, UM, TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US BEFORE THE END OF APRIL WITH ANY OF THEIR HOUSING CONCERNS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES IN THE REGION PARTICIPATE IN THE HOME CONSORTIUM.
WE BASICALLY HAVE THREE OBJECTIVES THAT WE REHABILITATE SUBSTANDARD HOUSING THAT WE INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY AND TO ADEQUATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT WE SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AND AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, BARBARA JOHNSON, WHO IS OUR, UM, MANAGER OF THAT PROGRAM JUST LIKES TO GET FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES AND STAFF AND ESPECIALLY WITH Y'ALL HAVING SOME PROGRAMS IN HOUSE, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR YOUR AREA.
SO THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO OTHER FORMAL COMMENTS.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK Y'ALL WILL RANK ON DO THE RANKING CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS.
SO I'LL DO A PUBLIC CALL BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS.
THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFICALLY.
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I'LL DO A FIRST CALL FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR TOWN OF BLUFFTON NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CON WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED BEFORE WE START QUESTIONS ARE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN THE ROOM.
THESE ARE GREAT PROJECTS, AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL THINKING, OH GOSH, THIS COULD GO HERE, HERE AND HERE JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS BASED ON LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS.
AND THERE HAS TO BE A PERCENTAGE OF THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
AT LEAST 1% OF THE AREA BEING SURE ABOUT A PROJECT HAS TO BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
AND WE QUANTIFY THAT IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON BY SURVEY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE DO HAVE TO RANK THE FIVE AREAS AND I'LL LOOK TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THIS SIDE TO MICHELLE, JUST IN LOOKING AT THE RANKING, I THINK, UM, PRIORITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS TO MOVE UP FROM WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY.
THESE ARE FIVE AREAS WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR.
AND I THINK WE'RE VERY FLUID WITH WHERE THEY RANKED THERE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH WHAT'S ONE OR TWO.
SO IS THERE A PROBLEM IF WE RANK, UH, JUST MOVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO NUMBER ONE AND JUST MOVE EVERYTHING DOWN.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS FOR SPENDING TIME.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH THE FOLLOWING YOUR RANKING OF COMMUNITY NEEDS AS PRIORITIES, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS, TRANSPORTATION AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING SEWER, WATER, AND DRAINAGE, RESIDENTIAL REHABILITATION OF HOUSING FOR SAFE AND DRY HOUSING, AND THEN RESTORATION OF PROPERTIES OR FACILITIES, A SPECIAL VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY OR EMOTION OF THAT NATURE.
AIR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION DO YOU HAVE THAT KIM ON THE NEW RANKING, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
UM, AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT MONEY AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP OUR STAFF DOES WITH, WITH THAT GROUP.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATION, CELEBRATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, AND IT'S OUR STUDENTS OF THE MONTH.
WITH WHOEVER YOU WANT, ALLISON, THIS IS YOUR MINUTE.
SO WHILE ALLISON'S COMING UP, THE STUDENT OF THE MONTH WAS, IS, HAS COME FROM THE BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS OLD NOW.
AND THEY, EACH CLUSTER PICKS A CHILD AND THEY WORK THEIR WAY UP TO BE AT THIS POINT, OUR CLUSTERS ABOUT 13,000 STRONG.
AM I RIGHT ADRIAN? ABOUT, SO OUT OF 13,000 ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS, ONE RISES TO THE TOP AT A VOTE.
AND THIS YOUNG LADY, THE CHARACTER TRAIT THIS MONTH WAS COMPASSION.
SO ALISON YOU, DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHY YOU GOT THIS AWARD OR DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THIS LINEUP THAT WILL SAY IT FOR ME? UM, ALISON WAS CHOSEN NOT ONLY BY ME AND THE OTHER TEACHERS THAT WORK WITH HER, BUT ALSO BY THE STUDENTS IN HER CLASSROOM.
UM, FOR HABIT HEROES, SHE WAS CHOSEN BY HER PEERS FOR SEEKING FIRST TO UNDERSTAND AND TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
SHE, WHEN SHE LISTENS TO OTHERS, NOT ONLY DOES SHE LISTEN TO INSTRUCTION, BUT SHE ALSO LISTENS TO OTHERS, SYMPATHETICALLY AND UNDERSTANDS THEIR FEELINGS, SHOWING COMPASSION.
AND, UM, SHE WAS CHOSEN RIGHT AFTER, UM, OUR SUDDEN LOSS OF A MIRROR IN OUR CLASSROOM.
SHE WAS A GREAT FRIEND OF HIS, BUT SHE ALSO STEPPED FORWARD TO SHOW SYMPATHY FOR THE OTHER STUDENTS AND TO LISTEN.
AND SHE ALSO, UM, UPON HERSELF MADE A CARD FOR HIS FAMILY.
SO SHE'S A SWEET GIRL AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LEADERS AND SHE WILL DEFINITELY SHINE AS A SUPERSTAR WHEN YOU ARE, AS YOU GROW UP GIRL, SO PROUD OF YOU, CERTIFICATE, YOU CAN FRAME.
AND WE GIVE THESE COINS OUT ONLY TO VERY FEW PEOPLE.
SO YOU CAN START COLLECTING THESE.
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TOWN OF BLUFFTON.YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT ONE DAY.
COME ON, FAM AND ADRIAN SUTTON IS THE PRINCIPAL AT MICHAEL MICHAEL C RALEIGH.
BRITTANY IS A KINDERGARTEN TEACHER.
NEXT HAVE A THIRD GRADER FROM BLUFFTON ELEMENTARY.
SOPHIE'S A THIRD GRADER AND HER TRAIT, A CHARACTER TRAIT WAS RESPECT AND GRATITUDE.
WHO WOULD LIKE, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAIT AND RESPECT AND GRATITUDE? OR DO YOU WANT YOUR PRINCIPAL TO DISCUSS WHY YOU GOT THIS AWARD? YOU PIT ALL ABOUT YOU.
WHY DON'T YOU READ IT? YOU'RE A GOOD READER.
NOMINATE SOPHIA WAS NEVSKY FOR THE STUDENT OF THE MONTH.
SOPHIE IS ABOUT THE MOST POT POSITIVE AND PRE APPRECIATIVE STUDENT I HAVE EVER MET.
NO MATTER THE SITUATION EVENT OR LESS THAN SOPHIE IS EXCITED, ENGAGED, AND READY TO PARTICIPATE.
EACH DAY IS LIKE A NEW ADVENTURE FOR SOPHIE.
WELL, SOMEBODY, TWO DAYS OF SCHOOL MAY SEEM TO BE CHALLENGING OR TOO BORING FOR SOME STUDENTS.
SO IF LOOK SAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW OR SHOW WHAT SHE HAS LEARNED.
SOPHIE IS APPRECIATIVE AND EVERETT AND OF EVERYONE SHE MEETS AND QUICKLY MAKES NEW FRIENDS WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT IN COMMON, SOPHIE GETS TO BUY LUNCH EVERY FRIDAY, THOSE DAYS, SHE IS SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT IS ON MENU.
NO MATTER WHAT SHE HAS THAT DAY, SHE IS GRATEFUL FOR A GOOD MEAL IX, ESPECIALLY IF IT INCLUDES SMILEY FRIES, I'M PAID FOR IT.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I HAVE SEEN SOPHIE BEGIN TO GET UPSET ABOUT ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BUT SHE IS ALWAYS QUICK TO WIPE AWAY OR TEARS AND LOOK FOR THE POSITIVE AND OUR SITUATION.
LASTLY, SOPHIE IS ONE OF THE ONLY STUDENTS I EVER KNOWN.
APPRECIATE HONEST FEEDBACK ISSUES.
DEBELLE DEVELOPED RING ON HER PRIDE REPORT.
SHE SOMETIMES GETS UPSET, BUT I'LL, BUT ALWAYS LETS ME KNOW WHAT SHE, WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO TO GET BETTER AND RECEIVE A FORM MEETS EXPECTATIONS.
THE FOLLOWING WEEK, SHE TAKES THIS FEEDBACK AND USE IT, USES IT TO MAKE HERSELF A MORE SUCCESSFUL STUDENT THAN CLASSMATE.
SO SOPHIE, YOU GET A WONDERFUL CERTIFICATE.
SO, UM, NEXT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO SETS OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
ONE IS FOR JUST THE FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE QUICKLY AFTERWARDS FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. UM, WE DO HAVE MR. HOAGLAND, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE FIRST? OKAY.
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COMMENT FOR FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS. NEXT IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANYTHING FROM THE LEFT SIDE, THIRD GRADE, THIRD GRADE.ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE? JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I HAVE SOME NOTES HERE AND I GOT HERE FIRST.
WE ALL WENT TO LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAY ON MONDAY AND MET WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN COLUMBIA.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY MET WITH US SEVERAL TIMES AND WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE TOWNS IN THEIR DISTRICT, AND WE THINK THEY LISTENED AND, UM, IT WAS JUST A GREAT EVENT TO MEET OTHERS IN THEIR, IN THEIR SEATS.
UM, I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT THE HAVEN.
UM, SINCE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND COUNCILMAN WOULD CAME AS WELL.
WE, WE ARE SPEAKING TO ANYONE WHO WANTS US TO SPEAK.
COMMUNITY-WISE, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS RECENTLY ON GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND I REALLY DO THINK THE RESONANCE AT THE HAVEN, UM, GOT A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION AND THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED IN WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND, AND I THINK IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
AND THEN TODAY I WENT TO SOUTHERN LIVING.
IT'S A TEAS, BUT IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN MANY, MANY YEARS, I'VE BEEN TO A PLACE THAT EVERYONE SAID Y'ALL THERE WERE, THERE WERE ONLY SOUTHERNERS THERE.
IT WAS THE SOUTHERN LIVING HOME SUMMIT AND IT WAS 350 BUILDERS THAT REPRESENT SOUTHERN LIVING MAGAZINE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND THEY ACTUALLY VENTURED INTO TOWN AND STOPPED US AND TOLD US THAT THEY HAD GONE INTO TOWN.
SO THAT'S HAPPENING AT PALMETTO BLUFF.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, WE HAVE THE BUCKLE AND SIMMONS HILL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON NEXT TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH, FROM SIX TO EIGHT AT THE ROTARY CENTER AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
AND THEN ON THE 26TH, THE WEEK FOLLOWING IS OUR NEW DATE FOR STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND THAT TOO, IS THAT THE ROTARY CENTER AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK NEXT FORMAL ITEMS. UM, FIRST STEP IS CONSIDERATION OF AN APPROVAL FOR THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY REFERRED TO AS NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE WITHIN THE NEW RIVERSIDE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL VILLAGE TYPE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 35.508 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD AND SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 46.
AND BEFORE KEVIN STARTS, MY COMPANY WAS ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH ONE OF THE BUYERS OR SELLERS OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO I HAVE ASKED IF I COULD RECUSE MYSELF.
SO I'M GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL TO MOMMY OR PROTEOME AND SIT OVER THERE.
MA'AM UH, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.
AS THE MAYOR STATED, WE ARE HERE FOR INITIAL MASTER PLAN, UH, UH, REQUEST, UH, THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BY AB TECHS, UH, PROPERTIES ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER, MR.
UH, AND THIS IS FOR THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR, UH, NEW, UH, NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, UH, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 35.5 ACRES, UH, PROPERTY OWNED BY BOTH.
UM, MR.
UH, SO FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, UH, OUR, UH, UH, PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
UH CHECK-IN UH, WE HAD OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, MEETINGS IN JANUARY, A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN THIS EVENING, WE ARE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE MASTER PLAN.
UH, IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPROVAL, UH, THERE WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE BOTH FIRST AND SECOND READINGS, UH, TO BE DETERMINED, UH, FOR THE, UH, LAND RECONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE TOWN, UH, AREA MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, IS LOCATED, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS THE LANDING SET NEW RIVERSIDE TO THE WEST IS THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN, THE 37 ACRE PROPER PROPERTY WITH THE BARN, UM, TO THE EAST IS THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION PROPERTY.
AND TO THE NORTH IS MAY RIVER CROSSING, UH, FROM THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS PRO UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED AND HAVE HIGHLIGHTED.
UH, AND JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, YOU CAN SEE THE AREA HERE, UH, IS LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE TYPE OR THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE ASSEMBLY, UH, WHICH IS THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP, UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE THE NEW RIVERSIDE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL IN 2004, UH, THAT THIS PROPERTY IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY LOCATED RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS FOUR B, UH, WHICH IS CONSISTENT.
SO THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN ITSELF, UM, IT IS, AND, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ORIENTATION STANDPOINT AND SEE, WE HAVE, UH, TURNED THIS ON ITS
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SIDE.SO NEW ORIENTATION IS, THIS IS HIGHWAY 46 ON THE SIDE HERE NEAR RIVERSIDE ROAD DOWN BELOW HERE.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, IT HAS, UM, EXCUSE ME, IT IS A, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CONSISTS OF RETAIL, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL USES, UH, BOTH SINGLE FAMILY, AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM A, A DESIGN CONCEPT THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE PLACED CLOSER TO THE STREET, UM, WITH THE ORIENTATION.
UH, WE HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE THE CONNECTED STREETS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UM, SO THAT WAY THERE'S MULTIPLE LOCATIONS FOR ENTERING THE SITE BOTH ON NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, HIGHWAY 46, AS WELL AS, UM, AT THE REAR HERE.
THIS IS A CONNECTION INTO THE LANDING SET, NEW RIVERSIDE, WHICH IS A GATED COMMUNITY.
SO THAT ACCESS WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY FROM A PHASING STANDPOINT, UH, PHASE ONE CONSISTS OF A PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, AND I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL HERE IN A SECOND, UH, PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE TOWN, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE TOWN PARK, A PROPOSED, UH, LIBRARY BEING LOCATED HERE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TOWARDS THE REAR, THE COMMERCIAL VILLAGE, WHICH WOULD CONTAIN THE MAJORITY OF THE RETAIL USES AND RESTAURANTS HERE, UH, POTENTIAL DAYCARE FACILITY, UH, LOCATED HERE AND THEN THREE OUT PARCELS THAT FRONT ON HIGHWAY 46, UH, INCLUDING FAST FOOD AND POTENTIAL CONVENIENCE GAS, UH, STORE AT THAT LOCATION.
PHASE TWO IS THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT, WHICH IS LOCATED, UH, ON THIS QUADRANT HERE FROM AN ASSIGNMENT RIGHTS ASPECT.
UH, THE APPLICANT DOES HOLD, UH, 25 ACRES, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND 207 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVERT, UM, THEIR COMMERCIAL ACREAGE OF ONE TO FOUR, I'M SORRY, 107.
I APOLOGIZE, 107 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS AND CAN CONVERT, UM, AN ADDITIONAL UP TO 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IF THEY SO CHOOSE FOR 136 UNITS SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED, UH, THAT IN THE FUTURE, UH, ANY, ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WOULD REQUIRE, UM, THE ASSIGNMENT OF RIGHTS, UH, FOR, FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, PHASE TWO, UM, IF THERE'S NOT AN ASSIGNMENT AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL UNITS BEFORE IT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT.
UH, THIS IS AGAIN, THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH HAS THE MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL CIVIC USES.
UH, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION TWO B ONE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH ALLOWS THESE USES AS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE APRIL 22ND, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HELD A, UH, HELD A MEETING TO REVIEW THIS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THEY PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND I WILL READ THROUGH THEM, UH, YES, SIR.
DID I SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UM, OKAY.
JANUARY 22ND, WHICH, UH, UH, SO THEY, THEY WENT THROUGH, UM, AND THEY INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH WAS THE MASTER PLAN, UH, MUST INCORPORATE INNOVATIVE STORMWATER DESIGNS SUCH AS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, UH, USING, UH, RE-CIRCULATION OF WATER FOR IRRIGATION.
UM, THE USE OF PERVIOUS PAVING AND, OR, UH, POROUS MATERIALS FOR LANES, ALLEYS, AND PARKING, WHERE APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE A LOW IMPACT DESIGN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TRADITIONAL HARD AND NON POOR SURFACES, UM, INDICATE SETBACKS AGAINST ALL THE EXTERNAL PROPERTIES.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN MORE DETAIL OF THAT IN JUST A MOMENT, UM, UPDATE THIS STUB OUT PLAN TO THE SE FORESTRY COMMISSION PROPERTY AND TO INDICATE THE UNIMPROVED RIGHT-AWAY EXTENDING TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AND THEN IN THE NARRATIVE TO UPDATE SECTION FOUR J UNDER STREETSCAPE, UH, WHICH WAS TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, SIDEWALKS WORK REQUIRED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, AND THEN TO, UM, INCLUDE AN EXTENSION OF THE PATH AROUND THE TOWN PARK SPACE TO CREATE A FULL LOOP, UM, BY SHOWING IT TRAVERSING THROUGH THE WATER'S EDGE WHERE THE RESTAURANT ON THE WATERFRONT IS LOCATED.
AND I'LL GO INTO DETAIL HERE IN A SECOND ON THAT.
SO SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE, UH, IT IS, UH, SITUATED IN A PREDOMINANTLY SANDY SITE, WHICH HAS ELEVATIONS OF APPROXIMATELY 41 FEET IN NORTHWEST QUADRANT TO 31 FEET, UH, TOWARDS THE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY CONNECTING INTO THE LANDINGS, THIS LOCATION.
UH, THERE ARE NO WETLANDS AND NO FLOODPLAINS LOCATED ON THIS SITE.
UM, AND THEN THE TREE COVER IS A MIX OF HARDWOODS AND PINES, WHICH INCLUDE THE LIVE OAKS, LAUREL OAKS, GUM, AND PINE TREES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE PROVIDED THAT APPROXIMATELY 75% OF THE TREES LOOKING
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ON THE SITE ARE LAUREL OAKS AND PINE TREES FROM A SITE DESIGN STANDPOINT.UH, THERE ARE NUMEROUS, UM, DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS, WHICH INCLUDES ON-STREET PARKING, UH, STREET TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UH, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ADDRESSING THE STREET, PROVIDING THE CENTURY LOCATED CENTRALLY LOCATED PARK HERE, A TRAILER
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A TRAIL SYSTEM THROUGH THE BUFFER THAT CONNECTS INTO THIS IS THE LANDINGS BACK HERE.
AND THEN AS WELL AS OVER HERE, UH, THE GRID TYPE LAYOUT AGAIN, WHERE THE STREETS ARE LOCATED ACROSS THROUGH THE SITE HERE, DOWN THROUGH HERE, UH, THE CIVIC BUILDING, WHICH IS THE FOCAL POINT FOR THE WATER FEATURE, UH, AND THEN PRESERVING THE LARGEST SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SITE, WHICH ARE LOCATED HERE IN THIS ENTRY PARK.
YEAH, FROM A CONNECTIVITY STANDPOINT, AGAIN, WE HAVE CONNECTIONS FOR VEHICULAR PURPOSE.
THIS IS A FULL ACCESS MOVEMENT HERE ON NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT LEFT OVER, LEFT OUT.
UM, YOU HAVE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY, UH, LOCATED HERE FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GET A, ANY TYPE OF OTHER MOVEMENTS, HAVE OTHER VEHICULAR CONNECTION HERE ON HIGHWAY 46, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL A THREE-QUARTER MOVEMENT, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TURN A RIGHT IN AND A RIGHT OUT AND THEN A LEFTOVER.
SO IF YOU ARE TRAVELING FROM BLUFFTON TOWARDS THE ROUNDABOUTS, UM, FROM OLD TOWN TOWARDS THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU'D BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT INTO THE SITE.
HOW ARE YOU NOT BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THE SITE, HEADING TO THE ROUNDABOUT? WE ALSO HAVE A FUTURE CONNECTION HERE WITH, UH, POTENTIALLY FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY PROPERTY AND THEN A VEHICULAR CONNECTION INTO THE LANDINGS.
AND AS YOU REMEMBER, WHEN THE LANDINGS MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED, WE MADE SURE THAT THEY PROVIDED BOTH THAT VEHICULAR CONNECTION, AS WELL AS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION LOCATED UP HERE.
SO THIS WILL HAVE A CONNECTION.
SO INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THE LANDINGS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE END OF THEIR STREET AND THEN WALK STRAIGHT INTO THE SITE HERE.
UH, THERE ARE NUMEROUS, UM, TRAILS AND PATHS AS WELL.
WE HAVE A HALF MILE PARK TRAIL.
THAT'S THE TRAIL THAT'S IN BLUE THAT GOES AROUND THE WATER FEATURE HERE.
UM, AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT THERE WAS A CONNECTION TO CONNECT THE ENTIRE, UH, LOOP AS WE'LL CALL IT.
AND THAT WAS THIS BLUE LINE RIGHT HERE THAT HAS SINCE BEEN ADDED TO MEET THAT CONDITION.
UH, WE DO HAVE A TRAIL LOCATED THROUGH THE BUFFER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PURPLE IT'S APPROXIMATELY HALF MILE TRAIL LOCATED HERE WITHIN ULTIMATELY CONNECTING WITH, UH, THE LANDINGS HERE.
AND THEN IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO READ ON HERE, BUT IT'S AN APPROXIMATE EIGHT FOOT WIDE PATH THAT WOULD BE LOCATED THROUGH THE BUFFER, SOME OF THE STREETSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
UM, THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH STAFF, UM, TO, TO INCORPORATE CERTAIN STREETSCAPE DESIGNS.
SO THEY TOOK, UM, THEY LOOKED AT DR.
MELLENCAMP, OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST SAID TOWN PROJECT THAT RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED AND FELT THAT THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS INTO THEIR PLAN.
SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS, AND WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED IS YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON HAVING A TWO LANE, TWO TRAVEL LANES WITH ANGLED PARKING ON EITHER SIDE, WHICH VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON DR.
MELLENCAMP RIGHT NOW, AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY HAVE THE TWO TRAVEL LANES, ANGLED PARKING AND PARALLEL PARKING.
MELLENCAMP THERE FOR A PARK SPACE, AS I STATED, THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, TOWN PROPERTY.
UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS, UH, DONATED TO THE TOWN, UM, DURING THE PURCHASE OF THE 37 ACRE, UM, PARK, UH, WHERE THE BARN IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.
UH, SO THIS, THIS WAS PART OF PART OF THAT PURCHASE, BUT WAS ACTUALLY DONATED TO THE TOWN, WHAT THE, UM, WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME INTO US, THEY SAID, LISTEN, WHAT, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP WITH THIS PIECE OF LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO, TO EVERYONE? UH, SO THE, THE IDEA WAS COMING UP WITH PROVIDING A SPACE THAT WAS THEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT VERSUS HAVING A PARCEL, AN IRREGULAR SHAPED PARCEL OF LAND ON A
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VERY BUSY HIGHWAY AND TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF, OF A PARK FUNCTION AT THAT LOCATION.SO BY CHANGING IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT, THAT YOU'RE MOVING THE ELEMENTS MORE TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE.
SO THAT WAY THERE'S, UM, LESS, UH, OUT ON THE MAIN ROAD, UH, DURING THAT CON RECONFIGURATION, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A, A, UH, 60 FOOT HIGHWAY, UH, BUFFER THAT'S UNDISTURBED BUFFER.
SO THAT LAND NOW, UH, WHICH WAS PART OF THE TOWN'S PROPERTY, WHICH HAS APPROXIMATELY THREE FOURTHS OF AN ACRE, UM, WHILE WE'LL STILL BE A BUFFER IS NO LONGER PART OF THE TOWN'S PROPERTY, BUT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE STILL INCORPORATING MORE OF THE TOWN'S DESIGN INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE.
WITH THAT, AS STATED EARLIER, IS THE HALF, UM, HALF MILE TRAIL, UM, WHICH WOULD GO AS AN EASEMENT THROUGH THAT BUFFER AREA, CONNECTING, ULTIMATELY CONNECTING THE LANDINGS ON ONE SIDE AROUND THE SITE, AND THEN PROVIDING A CONNECTION INTO THE TOWN'S PROPERTY ACROSS NEWER SIDE ROAD.
AND THIS IS JUST TO SHOW FROM A TABLE OF EXISTING PROPERTY AT THE 7.1 ACRES TO WHAT IS NOW PROPOSED PARK AT 5.1, AND THEN HAVING THE AREA OF THE TRAIL IN THAT FOUR ACRES WORTH OF BUFFER, THE TRAIL ITSELF WOULD BE A PUBLIC EASEMENT.
IT WOULD BE AN EIGHT FOOT TRAIL WITH POTENTIALLY AT A 10 FOOT EASEMENT, UH, TO HAVE A KNOW A FOOT ON EITHER SIDE, IF NOT MORE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 26,000 SQUARE FEET OF AREA FROM AN OPEN STATE OPEN SPACE STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE PLAN HAS THE TOWN'S PARK HERE, WHICH IS INCORPORATED INTO THE WATER FEATURE, AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENTS ALL ALONG THE SIDES.
YOU HAVE FOUR POCKET PARKS, ONE LOCATED HERE WITH A LOT OF THE LARGE MATURING, UH, LIVE OAKS ANOTHER, AND THAT'S A, W THAT'S AN ESSENCE WOULD BE A PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, PARK.
YOU HAVE A PRIVATELY OWN POCKET PARK IN FRONT OF SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, A PRIVATELY OWNED PARK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS, UH, MULTIFAMILY.
AND THEN ANOTHER PARK THAT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY USED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HERE, UH, FROM A CODE REQUIREMENT.
UM, THE CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 15% OF THE SITE.
UH, SO THIS, UH, PROJECT FAR EXCEEDS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 AND A HALF ACRES, UH, OF JUST, UM, BUFFER AND OPEN SPACE AS SHOWN.
UH, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ISLANDS, UM, THROUGHOUT BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO IT'S AN EXCESS OF 40% OF THE SITE WOULD BE USED AS OPEN SPACE, MATERNITY PRESERVATION STANDPOINT.
YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN PURPLE.
THESE ARE ALL, UM, THE AREAS WITHIN THE BUFFERS OF 46, NEW RIVERSIDE, AS WELL AS THE PUD BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, COMMISSIONER FORESTRY, UM, THAT ENTIRE AREA, UM, WOULD BE A PRESERVED AREA.
SO, UH, THE TREES MINUS PROVIDING THE CONNECTIONS, UM, FOR PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ACCESS, UM, WOULD BE PRESERVED, UM, JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THESE TREES.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 409 TREES IN THIS PURPLE AREA, UH, INCLUDING SOME OF THE LIVE OAKS, UM, JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THESE, UH, SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT ARE LOCATED, UM, IN THE AREA.
AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE THAT WERE DETERMINED, UM, THAT THAT CAN BE SAVED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS AS WELL, THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT TREES, A TREE REPLANTING STANDPOINT, UH, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 4,300 LINEAR FEET OF STREET.
AND IF YOU HAVE A STREET TREE, UH, AT APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET ON CENTER, THAT RESULTS TO 172, UH, STREET TREES THAT WOULD BE REPLANTED ON THIS SITE.
UH, TYPICALLY THOSE WOULD BE A LIVE OAK TREE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO ONE OF THE, IF YOU REMEMBER, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS DEALING WITH A SETBACK REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONG THE REAR OF THE SITE HERE WITH THE LANDINGS, THERE IS AN EXISTING, SELF-IMPOSED 50 FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER FOR THE LANDINGS.
THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL, YOU CAN SEE A 20 FOOT SETBACK AND OF THAT 10 FEET WOULD BE A BUFFER.
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THAT SLOPE OR THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY HERE, YOU WOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY 60 FEET OF UNDISTURBED AREA, PLUS THE 10 FOOT, UM, SETBACK IN BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IN THE LANDING.SO TREE REMOVAL STANDPOINT, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY, UM, TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE, 2,531 TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED ON THE SITE.
AND IT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THAT IN THE YELLOW AREA HERE.
SO FROM A CODE REQUIREMENT, UM, IN THE Z DSO, UM, THAT POST DEVELOPMENTS REQUIRED TO HAVE THE 15 TREES PER SITE.
SO KIND OF PUT THIS TABLE TOGETHER.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXISTING TREES THERE'S 2000 NINE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE, FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR OF THOSE TREES ARE BEING SAVED.
THEY'RE REPLACING AN ADDITIONAL 472 TREES.
THAT'S 172 OF THE TREES OF THE STREET TREES.
UH, STAFF DID A CALCULATION AND IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 300 TREES THROUGHOUT THE LANDSCAPED ISLANDS AND AREAS ON THE SITE.
UH, THOSE WERE ALL LARGE MATURING TREES, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF, UM, THE 4 72 PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL DECORATIVE TREES THAT WOULD BE PLANTED.
UM, AND THEN FROM A CODE REQUIREMENT THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES THAT REQUIRED POST-DEVELOPMENT IS 533, WHICH THAT'S THE 15 TREES PER ACRE, UM, VERSUS WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED, WHICH IS 906 TREES POST DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT, UM, TREE COVERAGE, THE MINIMUM TREE COVERAGE, WHICH IS THE 15 TREES BY PROVIDING 25 TREES PER ACRE STORMWATER STANDPOINT, UH, IT WILL MEET OR EXCEED THE 25 YEAR 24 HOUR STORM REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT ARE IN PLACE.
UM, NOW I WANTED TO DO IN MY, UM, AMAZING PHOTOSHOPPING, UH, SKILLS THAT I HAVE HERE, UH, TO SHOW THAT HERE IS THE, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
AND, AND I'M GOING TO BACK UP ONE, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PATTERN OF THE, THE, THE FLOW IS THE, THE JOY OF THE WATER IS GOING TO GO INTO THE, THE PONDS THAT ARE LOCATED HERE.
AND THEN IT GOES TO AN OUTFALL, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE, WHICH ON THIS MAP IS, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S DOING AS, AS HERE.
SO WHEN YOU PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER IS FILTERING THROUGH NOT ONLY THE POND THAT IS LOCATED ONSITE.
THEN YOU GO THROUGH 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ADDITIONAL LAGOONS BEFORE ULTIMATELY IT THEN DISCHARGES INTO THE WETLANDS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO, UH, THE SITE WILL BE DEVELOPED IN COORDINATES WITH THE CONCEPT OF SURE THING.
SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HOW SO THE, THE, THE BLUE HERE, RIGHT, IT'S GONNA CONNECT INTO HERE, WHICH CONNECTS INTO THIS POND.
AND THEN THE POND OVER HERE, IT COMES OVER AND CONNECTS INTO THIS LAGOON, WHICH GOES INTO HERE, INTO HERE IN AIR, AND THEN INTO HERE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY DISCHARGES EVAN.
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION, VERIFY THAT WHAT IF I'M SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING PROPERLY PHASE TWO, WHICH WE HAVEN'T EVEN AGE TWO, WON'T BE BUILT UNTIL PHASE ONE IS COMPLETED THE WAY I'M SEEING IT.
SO WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, COMPLETED, YES, YES.
AGAIN, FROM THAT PHASE ONE STANDPOINT, ALL OF, ALL OF PHASE ONE WITH DISCHARGE INTO THIS, THIS POINT RIGHT HERE, WHICH WHEN YOU CHANGE, THE ORIENTATION IS OVER ON THIS SIDE, RIGHT HERE, HERE, RIGHT HERE.
WATER COMES TO THIS POINT DISCHARGES, AND THEN IT ULTIMATELY GOES INTO THIS LAGOON SYSTEM, WHICH IS PART OF THE LANDINGS.
SO THEN THE WATER TRAVELS FROM HERE, AND THEN IT'LL GO INTO THE ADDITIONAL PONDS, THE LAGOONS HERE, HERE, HERE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT DISCHARGES AT THIS POINT HERE INTO THE WETLANDS, BUT ACTUALLY LEAVES PROPERTY AND GOES INTO THE LANE.
ACTUALLY LEAVES THE PROPERTY AND COMES BACK IN.
SO IT LEAVES, IT LEAVES, IT LEAVES NEW RIVERSIDE
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AND THEN TRAVELS THROUGH THE LAGOON SYSTEM OF THE LANDINGS.AND THEN THIS IS THE ULTIMATE DISCHARGE LOCATION HERE, AND THAT'S NEW RIVERSIDE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S EXISTING PIPES LOCATED UNDER NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, WHICH THEN ULTIMATELY DISCHARGES INTO THE WETLANDS.
SO FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE'LL BE IN ACCORDANCE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN AND RIVERSIDE.
UM, IT'LL MEET THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, UH, EXCEED THE MINIMUM TREE COVERAGE, UH, WE'LL MEET OR EXCEED THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, SO THIS WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BASED OFF OF ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPE AND LIGHTING.
UM, AS WELL AS, AS YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO THIS PROJECT WILL GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION TWO SEPARATE TIMES.
UM, FROM ACCESS STANDPOINT, WE HAVE THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ON NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, ONE ACCESS ON HIGHWAY 46, AN ACCESS INTO THE LAND NEEDS THAT NEW RIVERSIDE AND THEN A POTENTIAL ACCESS FOR IN THE FUTURE TO THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE, WHICH IS OWNED BY SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS PERFORMED PREVIOUSLY, UH, WHICH ASSUMED THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND 350,000, UH, SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH WAS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT THIS PLAN IS PROPOSING, WHICH IS ONLY 103 SQUARE FEET, UH, AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW, WE'LL DO A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT.
AND WHAT THAT IS, IS TO DETERMINE, UH, LENGTH OF, UM, TAPERS OR TURNING LANES THAT ARE REQUIRED, THAT ASSESSMENT WILL SAY, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, THE DOD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING SUFFICIENT LENGTH FOR, UM, ANY, ANY TURNS RIGHT TURNS OR LEFT TURNS INTO THE SITE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AGAIN IS, UM, IT WILL MEET THE, UH, PRE-DEVELOPMENT LEVELS OF THE 25 YEAR, 24 HOUR STORM, UM, THAT WE HAVE REQUIRED, UH, AND THAT IT'LL, UM, INCORPORATE THE, UM, PERMEABLE PAVEMENT FILTER STRIPS BY OUR RETENTION AREAS.
AND THEN THE REUSE OF IRRIGATION WATER FOR STORM WATER.
UH, THE UTILITIES WILL BE LOCATED ON SITE.
THE LAST ONE WAS IN 2004, CORRECT.
AND SO A LOT HAS CHANGED AND I THINK ONE 70 HAS GOT AN E RATING OF SERVICE.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT THEY WILL GO BACK AND HAVE AN ANALYSIS MADE BEFORE WE'LL DO AN ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS A, AN ESSENCE IT'S MORE OF A LOWER LEVEL, UM, REVIEW OF THE SITE ITSELF AND, AND HOW THEY CAN, UM, GET THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THROUGH DLT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE LENGTH OF, OF TURN LANE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF DOD IS REQUIRING THAT THEY PROVIDE A 200 FOOT TURN LANE, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED DURING THAT ASSESSMENT, UH, OR IF THEY REQUIRE 150 FOOT TURN LANE, UM, THAT THAT'LL BE TERMINATED AT THAT POINT.
SO THEY WOULD NOT GET APPROVAL UNTIL THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED.
DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.
SO WE DON'T, WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION.
WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE NEW TRAFFIC, UH, ANALYSIS AT THIS POINT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE IN THE REAL WORLD TODAY.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT INITIAL ASSESSMENT, THE, UM, THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA HAD, THEY DID THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, ALMOST 500,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THIS SIDE IS ACTUALLY ONLY 103 SQUARE FEET.
SO THEY MADE THEIR ASSUMPTIONS BASED OFF OF HALF A MILLION SQUARE FOOT PROJECT.
AND THIS IS ONLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT PROJECT.
SO IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY MADE TO THE SITE AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT, THE 46, 1 70, ALL THOSE WERE TAKEN TO ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED AT THAT 500,000.
AND THIS IS BACKED OFF TO THAT HUNDRED AND 3000.
SO THE 2004 ANALYSIS WOULD HAVE INCLUDED ALL THE OTHER PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE BASED ON RDU NUMBERS.
SO THE ASSUMPTIONS WERE BASED OFF OF THE, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ACREAGE, OR EXCUSE ME, A SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
SO, SO THEY BASED IT ON WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE, UH, THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND COMMERCIAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THIS SITE TO MAKE THE NECESSARY, UM, DESIGN OF THE ROADS?
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I DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THEIR QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE DUET THAT I, WHAT I HEARD, IT WAS A CHAT, THERE'S A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR NUMBER OF NUMBER OF CHIPS THAT WAS DONE IN 2004 BASED OFF OF THEY DO THE, WHAT THEY DO IS AN ASSUMPTION.THEY ASSUME AT HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL COMMERCIAL USE WHAT, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY PUT IT THROUGH THEIR MODEL, THEY PUT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THERE, AND IT DETERMINES THE, THE NEEDS FOR THE ROADS.
NOW WHAT THE ASSESSMENT, WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS FOR THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY, WHAT TYPE OF, OF TURN LANES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REQUIRE A TURN LANE, SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO TURN LANES.
IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A HUGE DEVELOPMENT, UH, VERSUS HAVING A SINGLE TURN LANE VERSUS THE, THE STACKING THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU NEED, SOMETIMES YOU ONLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO STACK, YOU KNOW, 10 CARS, UM, FOR FOUR VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO LIKE TURN LEFT INTO THE SITE, OR THEY MIGHT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STACK FOR 15 CARS.
THAT'S WHAT THAT ASSESSMENT WILL, WILL DETERMINE.
AND THEN
JUST TO SIMPLIFY THAT A LITTLE KEVIN GAVE A GREAT, GREAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WITH ALL OF THAT.
BUT THE ANSWER IS YES, THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE IN 2004 WAS BASED ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEN THE SPECIFICS, ONCE THEY GET INTO THE LAYOUT AND ALL OF THAT, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR APPROVAL OR CONSIDERATION, RATHER THAT'S WHEN THE ASSESSMENT IS DONE TO GET ALL OF THOSE DETAILS IN PLACE.
AND HOW IS IT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
BUT THE REAL QUICK THREE LETTER ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, YES, IT WAS.
BUT WE HAVE A 16 YEAR OLD ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE GOING BY.
AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING IT'S A QUESTION THAT 46 WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT ANALYSIS ALSO, BECAUSE INTERESTING ENOUGH, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR 46 DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THE MAPS IN REALITY, THE WAY IT IS, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE IT'S A SCENIC HIGHWAY, BUT THAT IS LIKE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S ALMOST LIKE BUMPER BUMPER.
ALL OF THAT WAS CERTAINLY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AS FAR AS THAT ASSESSMENT OR EXCUSE ME, ANALYSIS.
I'M A LITTLE TROUBLED PERSONALLY THAT WE'RE USING A 16 YEAR OLD PIECE OF INFORMATION TO TRY TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A ROAD TRAFFIC IMPACT PERSPECTIVE.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF, KIND OF STRANGE IN A WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN THEY DID THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE SCHOOLS AND HOW BIG THE SCHOOLS, UM, ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, APPROVED OUT FROM THERE.
I MEAN, NOT THAT EASY, ALL IT'S LONG, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.
PROBABLY ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
LET ME SAY FOR ALL OF US TOO, I THINK THAT, UH, ANYBODY'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, KNOWS THAT WE'RE IN A NEW DAY, UH, WITH GROWTH AND WATER QUALITY QUESTIONS THAT WE GET HIT CONSTANTLY ABOUT, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE IN MASS.
AND SO IT'S NOTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF.
I THINK IT'S A GORGEOUS, UH, LOOKING DEVELOPMENT ON PAPER, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE REASON FOR ALL OF THESE CONCERNS IS LOOKING OUT AHEAD.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE STORM WATER, CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND.
I SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, NEW RIVERSIDE RIVER IS A IMPAIRED RIVER, RIGHT? EXCUSE ME, RIVER RIVER, UH, IS IMPAIRED.
AND, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE AT 303 D YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL CLEAN WATER ACT.
I CAN'T BEGIN TO EVEN SPECULATE WHERE THAT RIVER WOULD BE IMPAIRED.
UH, THE BIGGER QUESTION FOR ME IS THE WAY THE STORM WATER SYSTEM IS SET UP.
AND THE WAY I THINK I WAS HEARING IT, THIS, UH, IS THIS NEUTRAL BASE.
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYTHING WILL BE CAPTURED AT THE SITE AND NOTHING'S REALLY LEAVING EXCEPT FOR THE RUNOFF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF FLOW, IF I MAY I'LL HAVE THE, UM, THE ENGINEER ON RECORD, COME UP AND EXPLAIN THAT BETTER DETAIL.
HE'S THE ENGINEER THAT DESIGNS THIS, UM, AND
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CAN, CAN BETTER PROVIDE A BETTER EXPLANATION FOR IT.AND THAT'S MY QUEUES WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON AND I, AND THE OTHER THING TOO, THE SOIL, YOU KNOW, IT TALKS IN THE REPORT ABOUT THE SOIL BEING SANDY IN SOME LOCATIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THIS TIES TOGETHER.
I GUESS THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS, DOES IT, IS IT NEUTRAL BASICALLY CAPTURING THE STORM WATER RUNOFF? YES.
SO MY NAME IS MIKE HUGHES WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON.
UH, I'VE WORKED ON PROJECTS IN, IN BLUFFTON NOW FOR 18 YEARS, A LOT IN PALMETTO BLUFF, NEW RIVERSIDE AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, NEW RIVERSIDE.
YOU HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT IT BEING AN IMPAIRED WATERWAY.
IT IS A THREE OR THREE D WATER QUALITY IMPAIRED WATERWAY FOR FECAL COLIFORM.
UH, THE NEW RIVER ACTUALLY HAS A WATERSHED THAT EXTENDS WAY UP PAST, UH, SUN CITY, ALL THE WAY UP INTO JASPER COUNTY.
UM, AND YES, IT IS IMPAIRED FOR FECAL COLIFORM.
SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE DEGRADATION OF THE RIVER.
AND SO WE ARE HAVING A GREAT SERIES OF, OF TREATMENTS AS WE PASS THROUGH, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TREATING FOR FECAL COLIFORM AND PATHOGENS, PEOPLE CALL IT FORMS AN INDICATOR FOR PATHOGENS.
UM, SO WE WILL NOT BE EXCEEDING.
WE ARE NOT INFILTRATING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE WATER.
WE WILL BE INFILTRATING WATER QUALITY AMOUNT.
SO THE 1.95 INCH RAIN EVENT WILL BE INFILTRATED THROUGH THE SANDY SOILS.
WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING PERVIOUS PAVERS.
WE WILL BE USING STORMWATER REUSE THROUGH IRRIGATION TO APPLY THE WATER ONTO THE SITE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CAPTURING AND TRYING TO PROMOTE INFILTRATION BACK INTO THE SOILS.
BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST PARTS OF THIS IS WHEN WE SET UP, UH, THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY PALMETTO BLUFF, NEW RIVERSIDE SET UP THE AGREEMENT.
UH, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO STEP OUT TO THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY TO SERVE THE PROPERTY SO THAT WE COULD PASS OUR STORM WATER, NOT ONLY THROUGH WHAT WE DO ONSITE, BUT ALSO THROUGH THEIR BNP TREATMENTS TO FURTHER TREAT WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM OUR SITE.
SO, UM, THIS WAS A VERY THOUGHTFUL DECISION ON THEIR PART TO MAKE SURE THIS SITE WAS TAKEN CARE OF IN TERMS OF WATER QUALITY TREATMENT.
SO, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, WE DID DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY IN 2004, AND THAT WAS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WHICH DETERMINED THE ROUNDABOUT SIZE SHAPE.
UH, IT ALSO DETERMINED THE SIZE OF NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
THE NUMBER OF LANES, UH, POMONA BLUFF DID A $14 MILLION INVESTMENTS THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION AND RIVERSIDE ROAD, UH, AND THE ROUNDABOUT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DEBATING TRAFFIC CONCERNS AT THE OLD INTERSECTION.
IF YOU REMEMBER, ONE 70 TIED IN 46, UM, OVER TOWARDS, I GUESS, WOULD BE THE WEST.
UH, WHAT THE CURRENT INTERSECTION CONFIGURATION IS.
UH, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AFTER US BY THE SCHOOL, UM, BY BEALE ENGINEERING FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT ALSO DID AN ASSESSMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT USE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE OTHER SCHOOL SYSTEMS INTENDED WOULD BE ABLE TO BE HANDLED BY THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND THE ASSESSMENT CAME OUT POSITIVE.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE FULL TRAFFIC STUDIES.
UM, THE ONE WE REFERENCED IS THE ONE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE FOR THE INTENTION OF SERVING THE 4,000 D USE IN NEW RIVERSIDE PALMETTO BLUFF.
AND THEN ALSO THE ANTICIPATED GROWTH WE SAW FROM THE PUD DEVELOPMENT OF THE JONES'S STATE PUD, AND THEN NATURAL GROWTH THROUGH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE STUDY WE REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT RELATES TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE ORIGINAL DESIGN INTENT OF THE ROUNDABOUT TO SERVE THE AREA AND IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION.
YES, WELL, BACK TO THE, TO THE LAST, UM, AT DISCHARGE FROM ALL THE OTHER LAGOONS, THE OTHER FOUR IS FIVE TOTAL WITH THE OTHER FOUR HAS WATER FILTERS, UH, OR SOME TYPE OF FILTER, RATION IT TO THE FINAL ONE.
HOW HAS THAT FILTER RELATES TO THE OUTFALL THAT ONE HAS? UH, AND I THINK BEFORE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT TO THE NEW RIVER, IT DOES PASS THROUGH THE WETLAND SYSTEM THAT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND RIVERSIDE ROAD, BUT I BELIEVE THAT FINAL LAGOON WITHIN THE LANE ISN'T UNIVERSE SIDE, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY JUST DOES BUBBLE OUT INTO WHAT IS AN EXISTING DISH, THE PASSENGERS AND CULVERTS UNDER THE ROADWAY AND INTO, UM, UH, SPREAD OUT KIND OF LEVEL SPREADER AREA FOR THE WETLAND SYSTEM TO COLLECT IT.
HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT FILTRATION SYSTEM? YOU'RE SAYING IT COMES OUT INTO, I GUESS, LIKE A WETLAND AREA OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE, CORRECT? YES.
HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT OUR SITES.
THE WE'VE GOT 20, WE HAVE 27 PLUS SEVEN.
SO 34 PLUS I THINK THE LAND IS IN RIVERSIDE MIGHT BE 130 ACRES, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE ARE AREAS AT MIDWAY FARMS THAT ALSO DRAINED THROUGH THAT, THAT NATURAL WATERWAY.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO OUR SITE.
THE WATERSHED DOES BREAK ALONG A RIDGE, UM, NEAR THE PROPERTY OR NEAR THE, UM, THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES RECEIVE
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MORE WATER THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE SOME OF THE TOWN PROPERTY, BUT SOME OF THE COUNTY PROPERTY FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS.LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.
AND AGAIN, LIKE THE LAST GUY IN, I KINDA GET WHERE THAT PUTS PEOPLE.
UM, THE OTHER TRAFFIC STUDIES WERE LOOKED AT IS THIS LEAD TO A CASE WHERE THE ROAD GOES TO AN F OR, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS FAIRLY MINIMAL RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE INTERSECTION.
I WOULD, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT CONTRIBUTING LOADS THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD NOT TURN INTO A FAILING CONDITION.
UM, BUT THAT WILL BE PART OF WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING AN ASSESSMENT, WE'LL DO THE TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT.
SO TO ASSIGN HOW MUCH LOADING WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO WAIT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
I HAVE MORE TOO, BUT THANK YOU.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE, THE WE'RE ON THE TOP OF THE STORM WATER.
SO I REMEMBER FROM THE LAST MEETING, I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT IF THERE WERE ANY DATA COLLECTED TO SHOW HOW EFFECTIVE OUR CURRENT, UM, ORDINANCES OR REQUIREMENTS WITH TREES AND BUFFERS, OR LIKE IF THEY'RE WORKING OR IF WE NEEDED TO REVISIT THEM, UM, TO SEE IF THEY NEEDED TO BE INCREASED OR REDUCED.
DID WE HAVE ANY, WAS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR ANY MORE INFORMATION COLLECTED ON THAT? UM, UH, NO MAN, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UM, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE STORMWATER MANUAL? UM, NO.
IN REGARDS TO LIKE IN SEEING, UH, WHERE WE ARE AND LIKE HOW, UM, THE CONDITIONS OF EGYPT AS WE'RE GOING IN AND SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT AND TREES ARE BEING CLEARED AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE NOW AS TO HOW MANY TREES NEED TO GO BACK INTO, UM, OR BE REPLANTED BACK IN TO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE, LIKE, ARE THEY, HAVE THEY BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE? AND LIKE HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT IN THE SENSE OF, IS IT A MINIMAL, UM, IS IT MINIMALLY EFFECTIVE? IS IT, UH, INCREASINGLY EFFECTIVE TO KNOW LIKE, DO WE NEED TO RAISE THOSE STANDARDS BECAUSE THEN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HEARING AND SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE A REDUCTION OR LOSS OF ALMOST 3000 TREES AND A REPLANTING OF 30% OF THAT, I'M TRYING TO SAY LIKE, IS THAT GOING TO, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MEETING THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE SET, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT? UM, IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO UPDATING OUR, OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT.
UM, I MEAN, SINCE THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
NO, MA'AM, I WILL SAY, EXCUSE ME, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
WE HAVE NOT BROUGHT FORWARD ANY OF THAT TO YOU AS A COUNCIL TO REVIEW.
SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING AND THE REVIEW IS WHAT THOSE, THAT Z DSO 90 DASH THREE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND THEN FURTHER, UM, IN THE PACKET AND AS KEVIN OUTLINED IN HIS PRESENTATION, THEY ARE EXCEEDING THOSE STANDARDS AND WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THAT ONCE IT GETS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS, AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND TREES TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE EXCEEDED AND THE TREES THAT SHOULD, THAT ARE IN THE CONDITION TO SAVE ARE SAVED AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT AS FAR AS FORMAL REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU AT THIS POINT, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON DRAFTING THOSE AND HOW THOSE WOULD OR COULD APPLY TO TOWN-WIDE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO, TO LOOK AT OR HAVE COLLECTED ONLY BECAUSE THE FILTRATION SYSTEMS AND THE LAGOON AND EVERYTHING HERE IS IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW OR GIVE CONSIDERATION THAT GOING FROM THOSE 3000 TREES DOWN TO THE 30%, KNOWING THAT THOSE TREES DO ACT AS A NATURAL FILTRATION, THAT IS, UM, INDEED LIKE A HEAVY IMPACT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT IN TERMS, IF WE NEED TO REVISIT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES.
YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THAT'S WHEN, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, PROVIDING THAT, THOSE PERVIOUS MATERIALS, UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE IRRIGATION REUSE, UH, TO MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WATER, YOU KNOW, AS, AS IT'S RUNNING OFF, FIRST OFF, WE'RE COLLECTING ALL, ANY OF THE POLLUTANTS THAT ARE IN IT.
UM, THAT GOES INTO THE POND, IT SETTLES, AND THEN THE WATER CAN THEN BE REUSED FOR IRRIGATION, WHICH THEN AGAIN, IT GETS FILTERED THROUGH.
SO FROM, UM, A STORMWATER STANDPOINT THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT WATER IS JUST BEING RECIRCULATED
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BACK UP ONTO THE SITE.AND THEN, SO THAT WAY IT CAN FILTER, FILTER IN THROUGH THE GROUND.
BUT, UM, I'VE MADE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS HERE.
AND WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, I GUESS YOU, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESENTATION, I GUESS WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WE GO.
UM, IF WE BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAT BELONGS TO THE TOWN.
IF I'M SEEING WHAT I THINK I'M SEEING IT QUESTIONING THE AMOUNT OF LAGOON, THE BLUE IS ALL WATER, IF I'M LOOKING AT IT, RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO GET TO A CLEAR PLAN HERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THESE NUMBERS OR NOT HOW MUCH OF OUR ORIGINAL SEVEN ACRES OR WHATEVER WE HAD.
UM, I MEAN, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LAND USABLE PARK LAND IN RELATION TO WATER BY WANTS WATERFRONT PROPERTY? HOW DO TOO? BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE SEVEN ACRES AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE ACRES OF, OF WATER.
SO, SO W THE TOWN WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO BE TOWN PARK AND MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN.
HOW MUCH DIRT IS THAT? SO AN ACTUAL LAND, NOT INCLUDING THE, THE LAGOONS.
SO TOWN PROPERTY, SEVEN ACRES, AND THEN NOW TOWN PROPERTY, THE WHATEVER, FIVE BY 0.5 ACRES, UM, BY 0.5 ACRES, THERE WE GO.
UM, AND OF THAT 2.5 IS THE ACTUAL ACTIVE RECREATIONAL AREA.
SO WHENEVER YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK ON UNDERNEATH HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE PLAYGROUNDS, THE OPEN SPACE, THE, THE AREAS THAT PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, SIT UNDER A SHADE TREES.
UM, YOU HAVE THAT, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT PUBLIC EASEMENT THAT I WAS REFERRING TO FOR THE TRAIL.
SO WE HAVE THE TRAILS THAT ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE BUFFERS.
UH, SO THAT'S AREA THAT IS USED FOR, FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC USE.
SO ANYONE BE ABLE TO USE THAT SITE VERSUS IT BEING A PRIVATE SITE, UM, MEANING THE ORANGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AS I WAS STATING, IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT FOOT, UH, PATHWAY THROUGH, THROUGH THE BUFFER AREA THAT CAN BE USED FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO IT'S, IT'S MERGING THE PUBLIC PRIVATE REALM INTO EACH OTHER.
UM, THE OTHER THING I STAYED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEAR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICANT IS THE ONE THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPING THIS SITE.
SO THEY WILL BE USING THEIR MONEY TO, TO MAKE THIS A MORE FORMAL FORMAL SITE VERSUS WHAT THE TOWN HAS OF THE, THE SEVEN ACRES.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, FROM A, YOU KNOW, TO DO A TRADE-OFF OF, OF ACREAGE PER ACREAGE, UM, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT, LIKE, WHILE WE MIGHT BE LOSING THAT 1.6 ACRE DIFFERENCE, WHAT WE'RE PICKING UP IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE, SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR THIS AREA TO BE AN IMPROVED PARK.
UH, THE PARK WOULD THEN BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN AND THE STORM WATER SYSTEM, THE POND, THE FEATURE, THE WATER FEATURE WILL ACTUALLY BE MAINTAINED BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
SO THEY'LL BE MAINTAINING THAT PORTION OF IT, WHEREAS WE ARE JUST MAINTAINING THE FORMAL PORTION OF IT.
SO, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, IT'S, I'M NOT, I'M NOT KNOCKING THE PROJECT, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHAT I SEE AND WHAT I THINK I'M SEEING IS, IS WHAT, SIR.
SO BASICALLY WE STARTED WITH SEVEN ACRES AND THEN WE ENDED UP WITH 2.5, 2.5 OF OUR HEART.
NOT INCLUDING THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BUILD THE PARK SO TO SPEAK, BUT WE WILL MAINTAIN THE PARK.
AFTER IT'S COMPLETED, INCLUDING THE, THE HALF MILE TRAIL THROUGH THE BUFFER, AS WELL AS THE HALF MILE LOOP AROUND THE PARK.
SO THE TOWN WILL MAINTAIN THAT TOO.
WELL, NO, SIR, THE TOWN IS ONLY MAINTAINING THE, THE, THE, THE FORMAL PARK PORTION TWO AND A HALF ACRES.
AROUND THE, THE LAGOONS, THE BUILDING THERE, THE, UM, WHAT IS THAT BUILDING? THE KIND OF A CHAIR.
LET ME GET TO, UH, I'M SORRY, LET ME GET TO A CLEAR THE CIVIC OR THE CIVIC BUILDING HERE.
UH, AND THIS IS THE OWNER, MR. MATEI.
SO I MIGHT LET HIM, I'LL LET HIM SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT.
WHAT IS THE CIVIC BUILDING GOING TO BE? WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN TALKS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH
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HEIR, THEY'VE ELIMINATED ALL THEIR OTHER SITES.THEY'RE WAITING ON SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO GIVE US FORMAL APPROVAL ON THAT.
THERE'LL BE ABOUT A TWO ACRE SITE.
IT WILL BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT LIBRARY, PRETTY MUCH IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
UM, THEY ESTIMATE IT WILL BE ABOUT 14,000 TRIPS THERE A MONTH.
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT KIND OF LIBRARY TO BE A READING LIBRARY, BUT IT'LL ALSO BE A PLACE GATHERING PLACE FOR COMPUTERS WHERE PEOPLE CAN FILL OUT COMPUTERS FOR EMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS AND ALL OTHER SERVICES WITHIN THE LIBRARY.
THE WAY WE TRIED TO FOCUS THE PARK WAS THAT WE'LL BE BUILDING THE PARK.
WE'RE BUILDING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT, FISHING PIERS.
SOME OTHER THINGS FOR THE POND WILL NOT BE JUST, UM, A STORMWATER PALM.
IT WILL BE AN AREA RATED POND THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN.
WE'LL HAVE IT STOCKED WITH FISH, AND IT WILL BE REALLY A GATHERING PLACE.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE.
MY WIFE AND I ARE GOING TO OWN THIS.
AS WE CAME TO THE TOWN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, SAID, THIS IS OUR CONCEPT.
AND WE SPENT WEEKS WITH Y'ALL MAKING IT BETTER.
A LOT OF THIS WAS AN EVOLUTION TO HOW DO WE TAKE A PARK THIS UP ON A REALLY BUSY HIGHWAY THAT A THIRD OF ITS BUFFER AND HOW DO WE TURN IT INTO A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WE WOULD REALLY RECOGNIZE AS IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE WITHIN THIS LIVE WALK, PLAY COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT ALL CAME FROM, WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OF THOUGHTS OF HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK? WHAT IF THIS WAS YOUR CANVAS? HOW, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REALLY MAKE THIS, THE NEW STANDARD.
THIS WOULD BE A NEW BAR AND THE COMMUNITY OF HOW YOU DO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE THIS IS THE INTEREST OF WHERE WE LIVE, AND THIS IS THE INTEREST OF THE TOWN.
SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR MORE SUGGESTIONS, BUT THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE PARK WAS TO REALLY MAKE IT A GATHERING SPACE TO WHERE, WHEN Y'ALL HAD EVENTS ACROSS THE STREET, THE CONNECTIVITY WITH A GOLF CART PATHS, WORKING WITH A FIRE STATION TO GET THE ALIGNMENTS RIGHT, WHERE IT WOULD BE A SAFE CROSSING THERE, WE FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO-PART THING.
PEOPLE WILL BE ENJOYING Y'ALL'S MENU COMING OVER HERE TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND FACILITIES THAT IT WAS USED TO BE A CONTINUATION OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I'M ASKING THAT ALL SOUNDS GREAT.
AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A PUBLIC LIBRARY INSIDE A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE, SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE, I DON'T SEE 'EM, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY, I MEAN, NOT, NOT SAY YOU NEVER SEE IT.
WE GOT ONE HERE IN BLUFFTON AND BLUFFED TO THE VILLAGE, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE NORMALLY RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT.
AND WE THOUGHT THE LIBRARY, IF WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IT TO RICH, AND IT WOULD BE PART OF, KIND OF A PASTORIAL SETTING AROUND THEIR ORIGINAL, OLD, BIG OAK TREES THAT ARE THERE.
AND THEY CHOSE THIS SITE OVER MANY OTHER, THEY HAVE, THEY WILL OWN IT.
UH, WE POSSIBLY BUILD IT FOR THEM, BUT IT WILL BE OWNED BY THE, BY THE COUNTY.
IT WAS JUST A GREAT ADDITION RATHER THAN A FOOD STORE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A COMMUNITY THING.
HE I'M JUST, UH, I'M STILL TRYING TO READ THAT SHEET.
IT WAS REFERRED ABOUT, UH, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE RESTAURANT, THE WATERFRONT RESTAURANT RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WE'RE HOPING WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THAT, ON OURS WITH SOME LOCAL RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR A RESTAURANT OVERLOOKING THE LAGOON.
UM, IT WOULD BE TREATED AS OF A GUN.
LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE AREA RATED.
I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY, THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT THEY RECEIVED, THIS, THIS PATHWAY THAT I HAVE THE ARROW POINTING TO WAS, WAS NOT ON THE PLAN.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY ASKED.
UH, THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO UPDATE THE PLAN TO SHOW THAT THAT PATH NOW CLOSES THE LOOP AROUND, AROUND THE LAGOONS, BY PROVIDING A PATHWAY, YOU KNOW, LOCATED RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE WATER.
WE REALLY VISUALIZE PEOPLE COMING TO THE PARK AND HAVING, HAVING LUNCH OUT ON THE LAWN, BRINGING THEIR KIDS AND ENJOYING A DAY.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S FAIR.
IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY I'VE SEEN.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR.
I'M JUST ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS.
CAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME AND I GOT TO GIVE THEM AN ANSWER.
UM, I AGREE WITH THE URBAN SETTINGS, GORGEOUS SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE NUMBER OF TREES IN THE TREE, TOPO THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVED, UM, AND COME DOWN OR THE SAVED, INCLUDING THE BUFFERS.
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ALL RIGHT.90% OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE SAVED AS IN THE BUFFER, IF I'M, LET'S SEE EIGHT TREES THAT WERE NOT IN THE BUFFER AND GET SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT WERE GOING TO BE, WHAT COLOR WERE THEY? WERE THEY RED? S SO ON THE PLAN THERE'S HERE IS THE WORDS REFERRING TO THE, THOSE LIVE OAKS, UM, AND THE, THE, WHAT WAS THE PRIVATE PARK.
SO THERE'S A, UH, 22, 20, 24, 40, 42 THERE'S SIGNIFICANT LIVE OAKS IN THIS AREA, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE.
AND THEN FOR PURPOSES OF THE GRADING, IN ORDER TO GET THE, THE LAGOON SYSTEM IN PLACE, OBVIOUSLY THERE HAS TO BE SOME CUT, WHICH CAN THEN SAVE TREES IN THAT AREA.
UM, THERE WERE TREES THAT WE HAD HIGHLIGHTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE FURTHER OVER TOWARDS THE SIDE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, UPON LOOKING AT THEM, YOU KNOW, ON A SITE VISIT DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WENT OUT ON THE SITE.
WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE LIKE THESE ARE ADDITIONAL TREES THAT, UM, WERE, WERE DISCOVERED AS BEING TREES THAT CAN EASILY BE SAVED.
UM, DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, ASK A QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON MOST TREES, AND THIS IS HAVING MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS AND BRIDGE.
YOU BROUGHT UP THE IDEA I'M IN AND TO GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW, I KNOW WE'RE IN REVIEWING EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, WE HAVE WAY IT'S DONE IN DEVELOPMENTS AND HAS BEEN IN PERPETUITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE BUFFERS, RIGHT? THERE'S BUFFERS.
AND THE TREES ARE IN THOSE BUFFERS.
BUT YET WHEN WE TAKE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS ONE, WE INCORPORATE THE TREES THAT HAVE TO BE SAVED TO BEGIN WITH, INTO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO REVISE HOW WE DO THAT.
WHEN WE HAVE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE ALREADY SAVED, BUT YET IT GIVES THE DEVELOPMENTS A BREAK BECAUSE THEY GET TO INCORPORATE THOSE NUMBERS INTO THEIR OVERALL SCHEME.
WHEN IN REALITY THEY'RE REALLY REMOVING MORE TREES.
UH, I THINK IT WAS, WE WERE GOING TO SAVE 13.7%, BUT IN THE REALITY, A LOT OF THESE TREES ARE ALREADY EXEMPT.
AND SO THE NUMBER ACTUALLY DROPS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I'M, WE'VE ALL BEEN READING MORE.
I, I, WHAT IS IT? 1,361 GALLONS OF WATER RUNS OFF ONE ACRE OF A WOODED AREA AND A ONE INCH RAINSTORM WOODED AREAS, 5% RUNOFF ARKING LOT IS 25,800 GALLONS ON THE ONE ACRE.
NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING TONIGHT IS FAR MORE IN PRO PER AND FAR MORE PERVIOUS APPLICATIONS.
AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING ON THE PATHWAYS AND THE, ON THE AREAS ON THE PERIPHERAL EDGE, WHERE THOSE GOING TO BE CONCRETE OR AS THOSE NATURAL OR WHAT WERE THEY THEY'RE THEY'RE ASPHALT.
SHOULD WE NOT IN THIS CAME UP LAST MEETING WE HAD, SHOULD WE NOT MAKE THE STANDARD? AND I DON'T KNOW, FROM A FUNCTIONAL PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS SOMETHING STAFF WOULD HAVE TO TELL US, SEEMS TO ME, WE SHOULD BE GOING PERVIOUS JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE ON EVERYTHING WE CAN PERIOD.
NOW, IF IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE OR SOMETHING INVOLVED WITH IT, WE NEED TO BE TOLD THAT BY STAFF.
BUT I THINK IF WE MAKE THAT OUR STANDARD, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD.
AND I DID HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT, A COUPLE, TWO MORE LARRY OR FRED, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD REVISIT THE TREE ISSUE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL WAY TO SAVE A FEW MORE.
UM, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS LIGAMENT SYSTEM HERE IN THE DRAWING WHERE THE TOWN PROPERTIES TO ONE SIDE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES TO THE OTHER, IF THE TOWN PROPERTY, THE WATER SECTION THERE, AGAIN, THAT WAS LEFT AS TREES AND THE ONLY THING LEFT, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE WATER, UH, AND YOU, THIS PROPOSED THERE, THERE WOULD, WOULD THERE BE NO, OR DO NOT BE ENOUGH RETENTION POND AREA FOR THEM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITHOUT THE TOWN PROPERTY USING THAT AS PART OF THE FILTRATION SYSTEM.
LET ME GET TO A SLIDE THAT SHOWS HERE.
SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO THIS AREA HERE? YES.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE TWO COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER WORK AS THEIR STORM WATER RUNOFF SYSTEM, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IF THE TOWN PIECE, RIGHT, THERE WAS NOT A PIECE OF THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH SPACE THERE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FROM A RETENTION PERSPECTIVE? NO, THEY WOULD.
I MEAN, THE SITE WOULD THEN BE RECONFIGURED
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TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MET WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.SO MY POINT BEING IS ONE HANDS WORKING WITH THE OTHER HAND, THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE TOWN PROPERTY AS IT'S DESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, MY FINAL COMMENT IS, AND, AND, AND, AND LET ME GO BACK ON PHASE TWO, HOW MANY UNITS ARE PROJECTED FOR PHASE TWO WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE? IT'S IT'S UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME? NO.
UM, BUT THE OWNER HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE PHASE TWO IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
HE WOULD, HE WOULD, HE HAS THE, UM, EXCUSE ME, HE HAS THE RIGHTS FOR THE 25 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND THE HUNDRED AND SEVEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THE ABILITY TO CONVERT UP TO THAT A HUNDRED AND WHATEVER NUMBER 30, 30, 6 OR 37 THAT I'D STATED.
UM, SO HE WOULD THEN BE, UM, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, LET'S SAY HE DEVELOPS ALL OF PHASE ONE.
HE WOULD BE, UH, ANY HAS THE, THE HUNDRED AND SEVEN RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS IN 25 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.
UH, HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH ALL OF THIS.
IF IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT IN THE ORIGINAL JONES TRACK DEVELOPMENT PAGE, 19 SECTION F TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IT SAYS ON THE OWNER AND THE TOWN RECOGNIZE THE INCREASING NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE BLUFFTON AREA, OWNER WILL ENCOURAGE AND USE BEST EFFORTS TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN A PORTION OF THE JONES TRACK.
AND IN CONSIDERATION THEREOF, THE TOWN WILL DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DEVELOP REASONABLE INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH BLUFFTON AND WHERE WE'RE IN A CONUNDRUM WHERE GROWTH IS IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTS OF BLUFFTON, BUT WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT SOME DENSITY LEVELS.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE IS THIS PROJECT APPEARS TO ME TO BE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A LOCATION THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION PERIOD.
WE'RE HELPING EACH OTHER WITH THE RETENTION POND SYSTEM.
WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP EACH OTHER HAVING THIS DISCUSSION A BANG, THE GAVEL RIGHT THERE.
I GOT A QUESTION TOO WITH OUR SEVEN ACRES THAT WE ACQUIRED.
WERE THERE ANY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ATTACHED TO THAT? SO THEY WERE ZERO, SAME AS THE BARN PROPERTY, CORRECT.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME PERSPECTIVES, UH, THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET, UH, JUST TO SEE, UM, A 3D, 3D RENDERING OF THE SITE, UH, FROM NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.
UH, THIS IS, WOULD BE FROM THE ROUNDABOUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ENTERING INTO THE SITE.
UM, UH, WITH THE FOCAL POINT ON THE CIVIC BUILDING, UH, BACK HERE, UM, THIS WOULD BE FROM, UH, THE LANDINGS AT NEW RIVERSIDE, UH, LOOKING INTO THE SITE.
AND THEN AGAIN FROM NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, UM, THE REVIEW CRITERIA, UH, WERE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY ONE OF THEM IF YOU WISH.
UM, BUT THEY ARE LISTED THERE AGAIN, WE REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAD, UH, HIGHLIGHTED THIS IN GREEN TO SHOW THAT ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS BEEN MET SINCE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDATION THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO RESUBMIT PLANS TO MEET ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS.
AND THEN, UH, YOUR ACTIONS THIS EVENING, YOU CAN APPROVE THE, UM, APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
UH, YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED QUESTIONS.
AND FROM THE PROCESS, JUST TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
UH, IF IT'S SO MOVES FORWARD THAT WE WOULD AT A LATER DATE, BRING BACK, UH, AN ORDINANCE FOR, UM, THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE TOWN PARCEL INTO THIS, UH, NEWER SIDE VILLAGE.
AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY.
SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF THE RESOLUTION? IT, IF WE VOTE TONIGHT TO PASS, THAT'S TRYING TO SEPARATE THE TWO PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE WHAT'S TOWN OWNED.
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WE'LL HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND READING ON THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN INITIAL TONIGHT.THIS IS AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE THE, YEAH, THIS IS TONIGHT ONE TONIGHT.
THERE'S NO FIRST OR SECOND READING OR CHANGES OR ANY OF THAT MASTER PLANS OR JUST THE CONSIDERATION FROM YOU ONCE MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY TONIGHT YES.
BY MAJORITY VOTE, YOU WOULD TYPICALLY ADOPT OR DENY OR, YOU KNOW, TAKE ACTION ON A MASTER PLAN.
THE FIRST AND SECOND READING YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS, IS THE LAND SWAP.
SO IF WE HAVE SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE ON SWAPPING LAND, MOVING LAND, THAT'S BY ORDINANCE.
SO IN THE FUTURE, YOU'D SEE IT AGAIN BY ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, TONIGHT WOULD BE THE MASTER PLAN APPROVAL LEVEL, WHICH ULTIMATELY SETS THE TABLE FOR THE LAND EXCHANGE FOR THE, FOR THE LIKE BASICALLY TONIGHT IS SAYING BREAKFAST.
IN OTHER WORDS, HE WOULD NOT, CAUSE NOT COMING BACK, WHATEVER WE SAY AT NIGHT, HE WOULD NOT COME BACK, COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY.
RIGHT? RIGID IS ANYTHING YOU, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE? I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE, UM, OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER REGARDS TO THE HOUSING UNITS HAS CONSIDERATION BEEN GIVEN TO THE, UH, AMI THRESHOLD.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, OUR HOPE AND I CAN'T MAKE YOU ANY GUARANTEES.
WHAT ABOUT HOUSING? WE'VE MET WITH PARAMOUNT, A BLOCK TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
WE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST EFFORTS.
WE'VE DONE IT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND COUNTRY, IN EVERY CITY.
RIGHT NOW WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.
THERE IS A PARODY BETWEEN GETTING PROJECTS, FINANCED AND MEETING THE COST OF THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ALL OF IT, OUR BEST EFFORTS.
WE WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER THAN THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT I'VE HEARD WHAT THE TOWN WANTS.
I'VE HEARD FROM, FROM ALL OF YOU, WHAT YOU WANT.
AND THESE DISCUSSIONS NOW FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, IT HAS BEEN THE FIRST DISCUSSION.
THAT'LL BE THE LAST DISCUSSION.
I WILL, WE WILL GIVE IT OUR BEST EFFORTS.
AND OUR REPUTATION IS WE USUALLY DO.
I WOULD LOVE NOTHING BETTER THAN THAT.
THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING, WHERE WE LIVE NOW, THERE'S NO HOUSING, THERE'S NO HOUSING, REALLY FOR POLICEMEN, SCHOOLTEACHERS WORKERS.
THERE'S JUST NOT A, WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER SITES TO MAKE THIS WORK.
WE'VE LOOKED AT GETTING ADDITIONAL RD USE FOR THIS SITE TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
UH, IT HAS NOT GONE ON DEAF EARS BECAUSE WE'VE LISTENED TO IT REPEATEDLY.
WE'VE MET, I'VE TALKED WITH THE MAYOR AND THE TOWN COUNCIL.
WE WILL GIVE IT OUR BEST EFFORTS THINKING I AM NOT ASKING AS YOU'RE GIVING YOUR BEST EFFORT TO LOOK AT THE CONCEPT OF AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THAT RANGE OF LIKE THAT 60 TO 80%, BECAUSE OUR COUNTY IS, UM, CONSIDERED TO BE THE ONE THAT HAS THE HIGHEST AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
SO AFFORDABILITY TO SOME IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS.
SO I THINK IF WE GO IN, OR IF YOU GO IN THERE AND AT THE JUNCTURE OF THE A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU KNOW, AMI, IT'S STILL NOT GONNA MEET OR ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO I WOULDN'T, WHEN DEFINITELY HERE WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION AND THAT'S PART OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES.
IT'S NOT A SECOND THOUGHT IT WAS OUR FIRST OFF.
OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, ARC OF A PROJECT THAT ALLOWED, I THINK IT WAS FOLKS THAT COME BEHIND IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALL GOT TO MAKE THIS A JOINT PROJECT BECAUSE THE TOWN IS IT'S ONLY SO BIG AND YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH SPACE AND THEY'RE ALL, EVERY ONE OF THESE WE'VE GOT TO BE RIGHT NOW.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU AGAIN.
I, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS IT'S OBVIOUS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I EXPRESSED OUR CONCERN EARLY ON BECAUSE THIS, THE PUBLIC THAT WE DEAL WITH EVERY DAY AND WE'RE GETTING INTO A NEW, A NEW PART OF BLUFFTON PERSONALITY THAT REQUIRES, WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS.
I, UM, HOWEVER, UM, I STILL, WE STILL HAVE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IN ONE WOULD BE THE TREES TO SEE IF WE CAN SAVE ADDITIONAL TREES OR MAYBE EVEN LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THOSE THAT ARE, SHOULD BE EXEMPT EXEMPT.
UM, ANOTHER PART WOULD BE IN A, IN A, FROM WHAT I HEAR ABOUT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF SITUATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE REALLY, UH, REALLY DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THAT.
THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATCHES WITH THE NEW STORM WATER REGS AND THE COUNTY,
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UH, THAT IT'S BEEN COMING OUT.I DON'T KNOW IF IT LINES UP WITH THAT OR NOT.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS ON THE, UH, WE TOUCHED ON THE PERMISS, UH, PERVIOUS, UH, SIDEWALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE DIALOGUE, UH, BETWEEN YOU AND THE TOWN MANAGER TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE, TO GO ON AND GOOD INTENTIONS.
AND I KNOW GOOD INTENTIONS ARE TRULY GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT ANYTHING CAN CHANGE IN TIME.
AND SO HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE VOTE IN FAVOR TONIGHT, WHERE WE ARE ON THAT TOPIC, YOU DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE A MIXTURE OF ME.
IF I COULD SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN TWO MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD I GET TO WHERE IT'S NOT FINANCIAL.
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T CONTINUE TO GO UP AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
THEN I MISLED YOU AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONSISTENTLY FOR EIGHT MONTHS.
I'VE BEEN PROVIDED ALL THE DATA.
AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ADJOINING PACE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THERE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED ON THE TREE BASIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE NUMBER OF TREES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EVERY TREE OUT THERE HEALTHY NON-HEALTHY ONE'S IN POOR CONDITION, NOT IN GOOD.
WE GAVE YOU THE SIGNIFICANT TREES.
AND PLUS WE'RE GOING TO ADD BACK SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TREES.
THE NUMBER OF TREES YOU'RE HEARING, A LOT OF THOSE TREES ARE FALLIBLE TREES.
WHEN I CALLED HER, I LOVE HER DISEASE.
AND WE JUST GAVE YOU THE TREE COUNTER EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE NOT THE SIGNIFICANT TREES, THE ONES YOU NORMALLY COUNT IN THE ORDERS.
YEAH, I WILL SAY TOO, IF YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS ON THE HOUSING SITUATION, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A CONTRACT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE HOUSING IN THE JONES TRACK DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT TALKS ABOUT INCENTIVES FROM THE TOWN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE INCORPORATED THAT INTO YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THE TOWN MANAGER OR NOT, BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.
WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
WHAT THE TOWN IS A BIT ABILITIES ARE MARQUEE MEANT TO THEM.
THERE'S A LOT, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF INCENTIVES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, FEE-BASED, UM, OTHER TYPES OF INCENTIVES, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS, JUST JIM'S TRYING TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE HE'S AT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THE COWS AND CONSIDERATIONS AT 60 TO 80, 80 TO A HUNDRED, WHERE DOES THAT FALL IN? AND, AND CAN HE MAKE THOSE NUMBERS WORK IS, IS THE QUESTION AND ANSWER.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO KNOW DETERMINED BEFORE COMING HERE TO YOU TONIGHT, EVEN GET TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL WE HAVE A SITE THAT WE CAN EVEN GO TO A LENDER AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
BUT MOST OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED AROUND THAT.
AND AGAIN, I COULD, I COULD COMMENT THAT, YES, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO MISLEAD.
IF WE ARE GIVING IT ALL, WE CAN.
I THINK THE TOWN MANAGER, THE MAYOR AND OTHERS WILL SAY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THIS THING PRETTY HARD WHEN YOU SAY YES, SIR.
THANK YOU ALL RECALL THAT THE OWNER JUST MENTIONED THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST MONTH.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I REPRESENT PAMELA BLUFF AND NEW RIVERSIDE.
I'VE DONE OUT OF PAMELA BLOOD FOR 15 YEARS AND I WAS GOING TO STAND UP AND SPEAK.
AND I WAS THINKING, I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK.
BUT NOW, SINCE I WAS STANDING UP FOR THE LAST FIVE MINUTES HERE I AM FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF.
UM, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, AND Y'ALL HAVE A PHENOMENAL STAFF HOPE, YOU KNOW THAT AND HOPE YOU APPRECIATE THEM.
THE LAW, THE AMOUNT OF HARD WORK THAT THEY DO IS JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, I JUST AM AN ALL EVERY TIME I MEET WITH THEM, WHAT I WANT TO JUST REITERATE TONIGHT IS THE INVESTMENT THAT WE ALL DID ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO TO MAKE PALMETTO BLUFF ON THE RIVERSIDE.
MIKE HUGHES MADE THE TERM EARLIER.
WE, WE SPENT $14 MILLION WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE NEW RIVERSIDE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND THE NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD, SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT.
AND THAT WAS TO TAKE THE NEWER SIDE CONCEPT PLAN AND MAX IT OUT SINCE I'M ON BEHALF OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE RESIDENTS AND PAMELA BLUFF, DAN, WE WILL GLADLY DO A TRAFFIC STUDY IF IT PUTS YOU AT EASE.
UM, WE OWE THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, I, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I LIKE MIKE SAID, I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE FINE, UH, FOR THE SEVEN ACRE PARK.
UM, WE'D DONE IT TO THAT, TO THE TOWN, UH, WITH CONSIDERATION THAT THE TOWN WOULD WORK WITH US TO DEVELOP IT, TO MAKE IT AN AMENITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF BLUFFTON, A RESIDENCE OR ELSE WE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE DONATED THAT TO THE
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TOWN.UH, WE ALSO SOLD THE TOWN, THE BARN SITE AND THE PROPOSED.
I CAN'T GET MY NUMBERS RIGHT TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS LIKE 37 ACRES.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR IS, IS EXACTLY WHAT WE INTENDED THAT SEVEN ACRE PARK TO BE.
IT WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN AWESOME FACILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE AMENITY UPON HIS CAN GO THERE.
THE WATER QUALITY DESIGN IS OVERKILL.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
UH, THOMPSON HUTTON IS PHENOMENAL IN WHAT THEY DO.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY TONIGHT THAT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME OUTSIDE OF PAMELA BLUFF.
THEY'VE TAKEN THE CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE DONE AND APPLIED THEM AND ACTUALLY MADE THEM BETTER.
WE PULLED OUT, UH, AN OLD PLAN THAT WAS 15 YEARS OLD.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT SHOWED THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE.
THAT WAS ABOUT THREE TIMES ITS SIZE THAT Y'ALL ARE SEEING TONIGHT.
AND THAT WAS EXACTLY WHY WE'VE MADE THE INVESTMENT OF THE $14 MILLION IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE CONCEPT PLAN TO HAVE A GATEWAY AT BLUFFTON.
UM, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THAT AND CONSIDER IT BECAUSE WE, WE DID THE, THE INVESTMENT.
THEY HAVE, GOSH, IT WAS 500,000 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FEET.
WE HAVE 430 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL ACRES THAT WE COULD HAVE DEVELOPED.
WE REDUCED THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 190 A BRIE ALWAYS CORRECT ME AND MY TERMINOLOGIES ON THE ACRE.
SHE'S THE KEEPER OF ALL THE LOWER HERE.
BUT, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
PAMELA BLUFF IS A MAJOR SUPPORT OF IT.
I AGREE WITH YOU, FRED, THE MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LONG TIME.
I THINK THAT ON THE ADJACENT PART OF THIS PROJECT, THAT'S DEFINITELY A VIABLE OPTION IF WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO SUPPORT IT AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PROJECT COME TO LIGHT.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ALMOST SAID MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BUT I MEAN, SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO I'VE BEEN TAKING SOME NOTES AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE DEFINITELY AT THE END OF KEVIN'S PRESENTATION, WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S MY JOB AND HELPING KEVIN WHILE HE'S TRYING TO BE QUICK UP THERE ON HIS FEET, TRYING TO FIELD WHAT SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT LEAST ANSWERING THEM OR CONDITIONING THE PROJECT WITH SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, SO TONIGHT YOU HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND KEVIN WENT OVER THOSE WITH YOU.
YOU, YOU COULD TABLE THIS PROJECT AND WE COULD BRING YOU BACK.
THE INFORMATION YOU COULD ADOPT IT AS IS YOU COULD DENY IT OR YOU COULD APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS.
AND SO, SO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO NOT HAVE SIMPLY, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN ANYONE'S, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME OBVIOUS QUESTIONS THAT COLLECTIVELY YOU'VE ASKED THAT I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE ANSWERED, CAUSE I THINK YOU'VE BROUGHT UP SOME, SOME GOOD POINTS.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, ARE YOU COLLECTIVELY COMFORTABLE? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW, BUT WE POTENTIALLY COULD CONDITION THIS.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE THAT WE, WE UPDATE A TRAFFIC STUDY SO THAT WE HAVE A, A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT, A TRAFFIC STUDY CALL, WHICH YOU WILL, THAT INCORPORATES THE SCHOOL, NATURAL GROWTH, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IT CONSIDERS THE BUFORD COUNTY PARK AND CONSIDERS ALL OF THOSE, THOSE CURRENT TRAFFIC MODELS, CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDIES, UM, NOT SO MUCH A PROJECTION AT THIS POINT BASED, YOU KNOW, FROM A GROUND FLOOR OF 2004, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS.
SO DO YOU WANT TO UP UPDATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT? DO YOU WANT TO KEEP TREES? DO YOU WANT TO PLANT MORE TREES? YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE TOWN PARK, OPEN SPACE, THE LAND AS LARRY COUNCILMAN TUMOR ASKED, DO YOU WANT IT? YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT NUMBER LARGER THAN 2.5 ACRES DOWN FROM 7.1, 2.5, OPEN SPACE, THREE LAGOON, AND ABOUT FOUR ACRES ON THE TRAIL.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT TOWN PARK, OPEN SPACE, THE LAND SIZE OR IN, OR DO YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE LAGOON AREA ON OUR TOWN PROPERTY THEREBY IN ADDING SOME LAGOON AREA TO THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY? UM, AND THEN THE HOUSING CONSIDERATIONS.
DO YOU ALSO WANT THAT IN THE NOTES, IN THE CONDITIONS OR IN THE CONSIDERATION, DEPENDING ON YOUR, ON YOUR CHOICE OF ACTION TONIGHT? SO KIND OF 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 DIFFERENT THINGS, TRAFFIC STUDY, TREE RELATED TOWN PARK, LAND, OPEN SPACE RELATED LAGOON, SIZE RELATED AND HOUSING CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO THINK THAT I'VE CAPTURED YOUR QUESTIONS WITH THOSE QUESTIONS
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OR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF, OF A RISING UP ALL THOUGHTS, WELCOME ROLE OF THE COUNCIL.I THINK WE CAN TABLE THIS TONIGHT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT DOWN MANAGER JUST OUTLINED THE QUESTIONS IT'S ON OUR MINDS.
IT GIVES US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, HEAR BACK.
I, I MEAN, I DON'T, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT TABLING AND TAKING THEM, UM, AS I AM JUST TRYING TO GET SOME KIND OF A COMMITMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YES, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD 10 PORTABLE UNITS OR FIVE OR MAYBE EVEN ONE.
UH, I WISH THAT WE COULD GET TO COMMITMENT FOR A STARTING POINT.
I MEAN, THE PROJECT TO ME IS AWESOME.
IT'S A GREAT, I'M AN ISSUE WITH IT.
CAN WE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TOLD.
WE PRETTY MUCH BEEN TOLD EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT SAYING I LIKE EVERYTHING I'M TOLD, BUT I THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
UM, Y'ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT HAT THAN I DO.
AND I'M REALLY CAUSE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL BEFORE AND I'M TRYING TO PUT MY HAT ON DIFFERENTLY.
IF WE COULD POSSIBLY NOT DELAY IT, IT'S HELPS US TO MOVE FORWARD TO FIND OUT IF THIS IS A VIABLE PROJECT, WE FEEL LIKE IT IS, WE'VE TALKED TO LENDERS, WE'VE DONE THESE PROJECTS ALL OVER THE SOUTHEAST.
I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE I LIVE HERE.
SO WHATEVER CONSIDERATIONS YOU CAN GIVE ME, I WILL COMMIT TO THE TOWN.
I'LL TRY WHATEVER I CAN DO TONIGHT.
THAT'LL BE ALMOST AS IF I HAVE TO DO IT ON MY POCKET BECAUSE I WANT IT FOR HERE.
I REALLY JUST WANT TO SEE MORE THAN THAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN THAT.
WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER PLACES TO BUILD THIS.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO US, THE TREES, LIKE I SAID, THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE COMING DOWN IS EVERY TWIG BRANCH OUT THERE WE GAVE YOU.
WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE SIGNIFICANT TREES.
WE JUST SAY EVERY TREE, SOME OF THEM ARE AS YOU KNOW, PRETTY BAD SHAPE, BUT WE JUST GAVE YOU OF EVERYTHING.
CAUSE I PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE WITH Y'ALL BECAUSE Y'ALL CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
Y'ALL DO THIS EVERY, EVERY WEEK WITH SOMEBODY.
SO ADMIT TO A TRAFFIC STUDY TONIGHT.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE'RE REDUCING DENSITY BY 75% FROM WHAT THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WAS BUILT ON.
SO I HAVE NO FEARS OF A TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE'RE GOING FROM A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET TO A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENED UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.
I THINK WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE FINE ON THAT.
SOME OF THE CONDITIONS INTO THE MOTION AS TO OKAY.
UM, I PERSONALLY AM SO FOR TABLING AND ONLY BECAUSE WHAT MARK HAD PUT FORTH IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE STILL HAD, UM, I WOULD RATHER SEE US DO THAT OPPOSED TO JUST FAST, TRACK IT TONIGHT, TO LOCK SOMETHING IN.
I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, UM, MANY STILL HAVE QUESTIONS OR ISSUES AROUND TO ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE ANSWERS.
UH, I THINK, UM, I, OR THIS OPPORTUNITY IS A GOOD TIME TO SAY WHAT THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU WANT.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE THINK YOU WERE ASKING FOR, UM, AM I NUMBER RIGHT? HE'LL BUILD 10 THEM AT A HUNDRED PERCENT EMI THAT DOESN'T SATISFY YOU.
RIGHT? THE OTHER THING ON TREES AND ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, WE DON'T DO THE MINIMUM CALIBER, MUCH LARGER CALIBER BECAUSE TO OUR BENEFIT OR TO BE A MATURE PROJECT, RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET PUMP LIFE INTO A TWO INCH CALIBER TREE THAT MAY NEVER GROW, WE GO SIGNIFICANT MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT LONG-TERM IT PAYS DIVIDENDS FOR US
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EVER DO THE MINIMUMS ON THAT.AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT ON THE AMI OF THE 60 OR 80%, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT ON OF THE 10 THAT YOU'D BE BUILDING? I USED TO FIND THAT FOR ME, CAUSE I HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS OF THE AREA, MEDIUM INCOME.
IMMEDIATE INCOME, THE DIFFERENT COUNTY AREA, MEDIAN INCOME IS WHAT WE GO BY.
UM, THEY ALREADY, W W WE BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE, UM, START WITH A HUNDRED TO 120, BUT WE DON'T NEED THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING THEM.
SO 60 TO 80 IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE REALLY WANT THAT AS BAD AS YOU DO.
I'D LIKE YOU TO COME IN HERE ONE DAY AND SAY, WE FIGURED THIS OUT TO DO 40, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I LOVE TO DO.
AND THEN YOU'LL BE SMILING AT ME.
I'M NOT AN OUT OF TOWN GUY COMING IN HERE SAYING ARE NOW THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM.
I'M A LOCAL GUY WHO CAME IN TO THE TOWN AND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS, WHAT Y'ALL WANT? AND THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS SMALLEST PROJECT, ALL THIS I'VE EVER DONE.
BUT IT'S ONE THAT MY WIFE AND I REALLY SERIOUSLY THANK YOU.
INTO COUNCIL WOMAN, UH, FRAZIER'S POINT IN TERMS OF, OR, OR IN THE DISCUSSION ON TABLING VERSE PROVING OR, OR AT LEAST MAKING SOME DECISIONS TONIGHT, REGARDLESS OF YOUR DECISION.
IF WE ARE COMING BACK NEXT MONTH, WE WOULD NEED SOME ANSWERS.
WELL, I WOULD NEED SOME ANSWERS SO I CAN DIRECT STAFF AND WORK WITH HEATHER AND HER TEAM TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANTS.
SO THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AS TRAFFIC STUDY BELIEVE IT WAS ANSWERED.
HOUSING CONSIDERATIONS ANSWERED, OR AT LEAST PROPOSED.
YOU WANT TO KEEP SOME MORE TREES.
DO YOU WANT TO KEEP A CERTAIN NUMBER ABOVE OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE MORE? DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE TOWN LAND, OPEN SPACE MORE? DO YOU WANT TO GO FROM 2.5 TO THREE? DO YOU WANT TO GO FROM 2.5 TO 3.5? AND OR DO YOU WANT THE LAND OWNER TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT STORM WATER ON THEIR SITE, WHICH IN ESSENCE WOULD INCREASE OUR LAND? I THINK THOSE ARE THE LAST FEW QUESTIONS.
SO REGARDLESS MY PERSPECTIVE, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S ON STAFF'S PLATE AND WHERE THEY ARE, YOU CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS TONIGHT TO CONDITION THE PROJECT.
WE CAN ASSURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE ACCOMPLISHED AND REPORT BACK TO YOU THAT THEY ARE WITH AN AMENDED MASTER PLAN.
SUBMIT THAT TO YOU JUST VIA EMAIL, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT STUFFS, ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THE BITS OF INFORMATION ARE UPDATED PRIOR TO YOUR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY, DISTRICT SUBMITTALS, WHICH THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
THE ONE THING I KNOW IS THAT, UM, AND, AND BY NO MEANS, AM I TRYING TO HURRY? YOU I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH YOU? UM, I THINK DALLAS, DALLAS MIGHT BRAG THAT HE'S BEEN A PALMETTO BLUFF LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO HURT YOU.
I DO KNOW THAT THE LIBRARY IS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS SITE AND WANTS TO GET GOING INSIDE.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU WANT MORE TREES, SAY IT, IF YOU WANT MORE OPEN SPACE, I THINK YOU SAID YOU WANT A TRAFFIC STUDY, CHECK THE BOX.
YOU WANT SOME HOUSING CONSIDERATIONS CHECKS THE BOXES.
ARE THERE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF YOU TO THE FOUR OF YOU? I SAID EARLIER, I THINK YOU CAPTURED MOST OF OUR CONCERNS AND, AND, UM, SUMMARY.
AND THEN, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD.
IF WE CAN GET THOSE CONDITIONS.
AND, BUT I WANT, I WANT IT TO BE UNANIMOUS AND THAT WE MAKE WELL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANN HAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TREES.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE'S HAPPY ABOUT THE TREES.
RICHARD HAD HER QUESTIONS ANSWERED, UH, THE HOUSING WITH, I THINK HE HAD ONE OTHER CONCERN WAS WHAT THAT YOU WANT THE TREES TO.
YOU WERE GOOD, RIGHT? HE COMMITTED.
THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS ON EMOTIONAL CONDITIONS THAT YOU OUTLINED MARK, UM, ASKED THIS OF THE GROUP, THE TREE ISSUE STAFF COULD COME BACK OR RET MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO WHAT THEY AFTER.
CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT ANYWAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW TO SAY WHAT TREES ADDITIONALLY, THEY CAN, THAT COULD BE FROM STAFF LEVEL.
THE OTHER PART OF IT WOULD BE THE, UM, ACREAGE THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
THAT MAY BE THAT WE INCREASE OUR PARK LAND PARK A
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BIT FURTHER, MAYBE THREE ACRES INSTEAD OF THE TWO AND A HALF, WHATEVER IT WAS.UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT COULD BE DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL? THE GOON GOOD.
ULTIMATELY THEY BOTH WORK IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER AND THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC IS TRAFFIC.
SO THAT WAS ALREADY AGREED TO.
HOW DO WE PUT THIS IN A, I GOT IT MOSTLY DONE.
WELL, WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE THINGS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, AT ALL FROM THE BATHROOM, LISTENING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE CHANGING OR IMPLEMENTING TODAY WHEN WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL, HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
OH, DID YOU GUYS, EVAN? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UH, SIR, PLANNING COMMISSION CONDITIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED WITH THIS INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR THEM.
AND THERE ON THE SCREEN THERE.
UM, MAYOR PRO TEM, OR JUST HAND IT TO DAN, ADD ON THE HOUSING.
FIVE WILL BE 60% AMI AND FIVE WILL BE 80%.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, A TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATE TO STAFF AND THE APPLICANT WILL WORK TO SAVE ADDITIONAL TREES, OWNER COMMITS TO 10.
WELL, ARE THOSE 10 OF THE EXISTING PHASE ONE OR WOULD THAT PHASE TWO PHASE ONE? UH, 10 UNITS OF PHASE ONE WILL BE AFFORDABLE.
FIVE OF WILL BE AT THE 60 TO SEE THEM SO OFTEN IN THE SUMMER.
AND THEY, I KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT ON STATE PARKING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD START IT ON OUR TOWN OWNED PARKING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE THAT IN THE RULES THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED LOSING OUR PARKING LOT.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A MATERIAL CHANGE.
IT'S IT'S A LONG WITH THE, UM, WITH THE INTENT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE YOU COULD INTRODUCE THAT NOW AT SECOND READING AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST.
HEY, YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN INTRODUCE UP FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER PROHIBIT.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE MOTION, BUT HERE'S THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE.
SO I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO, BUT WE'LL LET TERRY TELL US HOW TO ADD THAT IN THERE.
YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU, YOU, YOU WOULD ADD, YOU WOULD INSTRUCT STAFF TO ADD, UM, APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WITH A TOWN ATTORNEY TO PROHIBIT, UM, THE ADVERTISING OF BOATS AND CARS AND PARK PROPERTY AND GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE THEM.
AND I CAN HELP WITH THAT LANGUAGE RIGHT HERE.
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OTHER THOUGHTS AS THE SECOND READING, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS NO, THERE WERE NO CHANGES.SARAH MOTION TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 26, ARTICLE THREE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES BY ADDING SECTION 26 96 TO A SAB ESTABLISH A CONSOLIDATED CODAFIDE SOURCE OF RULES FOR ALL TOWN OF BLUFFTON OWNED AND OPERATED PUBLIC PARKING FACILITIES AND TO APPLY APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE OF PROHIBITING OATS IN CARS WITH, FOR SALE SIGNS AND THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THEM AND THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THEM, REMOVE THE CARS OR BOATS, NOT JUST THE SIGNS, REMOVE THE, REMOVE THE VEHICLES IN QUESTION 30 SECONDS.
ANY DISCUSSION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
WE HAVE A GREAT CONSENT AGENDA.
I HOPE YOU ALL TAKE THE TIME TO, UM, READ THROUGH THIS IT'S WONDERFUL INFORMATION FROM ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? THERE'S SECOND THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING AYE.
AND WE'RE DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE TO, UM, WE'LL START WITH SKIP HOAGLAND.
WE ARE GOING TO BE VERY STRICT WITH OUR THREE MINUTE ROLE.
SO PLEASE GET YOUR INFORMATION YOU WANT OUT EARLY IN THAT TIME.
SO IF I STOPPED YOU, THAT'S WHY OH, EVENING.
SKIP HOAGLAND, WINDMILL HARBOR.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD BE FIRST, NOT DISRESPECTED.
LAST SEVERAL YEARS BACK DID AN ILLEGAL MEMBERSHIP DRIVE USING TOWN EMPLOYEES DURING TOWN TIME TO HELP PROFIT THE ILLEGALLY OPERATED HILTON HEAD BLUFFTON CHAMBER THAT HARMED YOUR OWN RESPECTED OFFICIAL BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
YOU SCHEME THIS WITH YOUR FRIEND, BILL MILES, ORLANDO, AND FINGER.
YOU ALSO RECENTLY SAID YOU OFFERED TO DO THE SAME MEMBERSHIP DRIVE FOR THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
WHEN WILL YOU DO THIS? IT SEEMS IT'S NOT TRUE.
AND YOU COMMITTED PERJURY IN YOUR DEPOSITION.
YOU OWE THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER, 511 NEW MEMBERS OR 190,000 IN DAMAGES.
THEN WE FIND OUT YOU AND ORLANDO ILLEGALLY USED TAX MONEY, NOT YOUR OWN MONEY TO BECOME THE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON CHAMBER MEMBERS, NOT THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER THAT ISN'T UNTIL I CAUGHT YOU ON A FORCED, FORCED YOU TO JOIN BOTH.
I RECEIVED AN EMAIL SENT BY THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER LAWYER ROBERTS BOX.
I QUOTE, THIS IS A TRAGIC MISTAKE.
HILTON HEAD CHAMBER IS NOT BLUFFED IN THIS CHAMBER.
AND THE TOWN EMPLOYEES ASKING TAXPAYERS SUPPORT ONE CHAMBER OVER THE OTHER IS NOT RIGHT.
PUBLIC IS IN AN UPROAR AND SHOULD BE MS. SOCA.
YOU CLEARLY ABUSED AND ILLEGALLY MISUSE TOWN RESOURCES AND NEED TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
YOU NEED TO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THE GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
AS THE OFFICIAL CHAMBER ASKED THE FRAUD HILTON HEAD CHAMBER TO LEAVE BLUFFTON AS HAVING TWO COMPETITIVE CHAMBERS IN BLUFFED AND CAUSES CONFUSION FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
NO OTHER CITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES HAS TWO OFFICIAL CHAMBERS REMOVE THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER OF THE AID TAX FUNDED DMO THAT YOU HIRED AND FAVORED OVER YOUR OWN GREATER BLUFFTON CHAMBER.
THIS WAS TOTALLY CORRUPT HARMING YOUR OWN OFFICIAL CHAMBER.
ONCE AGAIN, ANYTHING LESS ISN'T UNACCEPTABLE.
WE DON'T NEED A CORRUPT GAME-PLAYING REAL ESTATE AGENT MAYOR WITH A HORSE IN THE RACE, MS. SOCA, YOU WERE ELECTED BY APATHY WITH ONLY 3,200 VOTES THAT HAVE A POPULATION OF 20,000.
WE NEED A FULL-TIME PROFESSIONAL MAYOR.
YOU ARE A GREAT CHEERLEADER, BUT NOT QUALIFIED FOR SERIOUS TOWN MATTERS TO ADD OUR OVERDEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC POLLUTED RIVERS.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ABOUT YEARS AGO, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF INCOMPETENCE, OR WAS IT JUST SELLING MORE REAL ESTATE? WE'RE EXCEEDING FIVE POUNDS IN A FIVE POUND BAG.
WE DON'T NEED A TOWN, LAWYER FINGER WHO HAS DEVELOPMENT CLIENTS.
AND WE DON'T NEED A TOWN MANAGER, ORLANDO THAT HE ILLEGALLY USES TAX FUNDS.
THE FOX'S WATCHING THE HEN HOUSE.
WHAT WE NEED IS AN FBI FORENSIC AUDIT OF THIS ENTIRE TOWN.
IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE LIKE DAVID LAUDERDALE SAYS WE'RE IN CRAZYVILLE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, MR. MAYOR, WHAT? THE RECORD ON THE MINUTES, PLEASE REFLECT, REFLECT THAT MR. HOGAN HAS FAILED TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU WITH PLEASURE AND NOT SAVED YOU FOR LAST, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE SMILE OF MY NIGHT, KATHY KRAMER.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE BRINGING SOME SUPPORT, SORRY.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS REAL QUICK.
HEY, MER EIGHT BEAR ISLAND HILTON HEAD.
AND I WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER IN BUFORD COUNTY FOR 33 YEARS.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS WILLIAM DENNINGTON.
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I WENT TO BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL.WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A GROCERY CLERK AT BULK WALTER PUB.
WHY ARE YOU MARVELOUS? BECAUSE I'M A SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
TELL US WHAT SPORTS YOU ARE IN AND TENNIS, BOWLING, BASKETBALL, AND TRACK AND FIELD.
AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON APRIL 2ND, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING TRACK AND FIELD AT MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
IF IT RAINS, IT WILL BE POSTPONED TO APRIL 3RD.
WILLIAM DENNINGTON YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE MAYOR OF BLUFFTON.
WE ARE GOING TO AWARD YOU A SPECIAL OLYMPICS AWARD IS YOU ARE A PART OF SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
I EXPECT ALL OF Y'ALL TO BE AT SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
THERE'LL BE OVER 500 ATHLETES FROM ALL OVER BUFORD AND CHESTER COUNTY.
AND I WANT TO SEE YOU AFTER THE OLYMPICS FOR ROUND TWO.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, UM, BUT WE'LL HAVE IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
UH, NEXT IS YOUR EMOTION AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS.
REDARC GARDENING TOWN, COUNCIL, APPOINTMENTS OF BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AT SPOIL YOUR ACT 34 78 1 THERE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING, AYE, WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WILL THERE BE ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? THERE WILL BE ACTION.
PROBABLY APPOINTMENTS ON THE BOARD, SINGLE COMMITTEE STAND.
Y'ALL CAN STAY UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO GO HOME.