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[I. Call to Order]

[IV. Adoption of the Agenda]

[V. Adoption of Minutes]

[VI. Presentations, Celebrations and Recognitions]

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ON APRIL 30TH. SO PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT ON HER SOCIAL MEDIA OR THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR EVENT. WE WILL. WE'LL BE PLANNING A TREE SAID

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CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. THIS MONTH IS AS WELL. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THIS IS A BIG, BIG PROBLEM. SO WILL SKIM OVER SOUTH CAROLINA'S FUTURE PROSPERITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE DEPEND ON THE HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT OF MORE THAN ONE POINT ONE MILLION CHILDREN. RHYTHM FIGHTING IN THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR STATE WHEREAS PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT MUST BE AN ISSUE THAT THAT A PRIORITY THAT REQUIRES INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, CHILD SERVING ORGANIZATIONS, SCHOOLS, FAITH BASED GROUPS AND OTHERS. WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE IS A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE WITH WIDE RANGING CONSEQUENCES ,DATA SHOWED THE LINK BETWEEN ABUSE AND NEGLECT TO CHILDREN AND A WIDE RANGE COSTLY ISSUES WHEREAS PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS WHO ARE A SUPPORT SYSTEM OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS KNOW WHERE TO FIND PUBLIC RESOURCES AND UNDERSTAND HOW TO REMAIN RESILIENT IN THESE TIMES. WHEREAS STATEWIDE AND COMMUNITY PREVENTION PROGRAMS SERVE AS A PROVEN AND EFFECTIVE WAY TO REDUCE CHILD ABUSE.

FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2009 20 EITHER AT EIGHTY NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR FOUNDED CHILD PROTECT SERVICE INVESTIGATIONS . WAY TOO MANY.

AND WHEREAS IN 2020 HOPEFUL HORIZONS AND CAPPER PROVIDE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION TRAINING TO OVER 3000 CHILDREN AND ADULTS THEREFORE ALYSSA SULFA, MAYOR OF BLUFFTON ALONG WITH THE REST OF TOWN COUNCIL HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 20 21 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.

EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE THAT EVERY MONTH OF THE YEAR WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THAT IN OUR RECORD FOR THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS NEXT AS FAIR HOUSING MONTH PROCLAMATION WHICH USUALLY HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF TO STAND WITH US. SO DO KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT WILL BE IN OUR RECORD AND THEN ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION WHICH I DON'T HAVE THE ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION. ALTHOUGH MAYBE I DO SO ARBOR DAY.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR AND WE PLANT TREES AND MORE THAN JUST IN APRIL BUT APRIL 30TH IS ARBOR DAY IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND WE TALK ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN WHO PROPOSED TO THE NIGHT NEBRASKA ORDERED AGRICULTURE AT A SPECIAL DAY BE SET ASIDE FOR PLANTING TREES IN 1872. ARBOR DAY IS NOW OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THE WORLD. TREES REDUCE THE EROSION OF OUR PRECIOUS TOPSOIL BY WIND AND WATER, LOWER OUR HEATING AND COOLING COSTS AND OTHER THINGS. TREES ARE A RENEWABLE RESOURCE GIVING US FOOD WHEN PROPERLY SELECTED PLANTED IN THE RIGHT PLACES INTENDED APPROPRIATELY.

WE INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, ENHANCE THE VITALITY OF OUR BUSINESS AREA.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO TREE IS THE KEY TREE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO WE OFFICIALLY MYSELF ALONG WITH TOWN COUNCIL PROCLAIM APRIL 30TH AS ARBOR DAY IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND AGAIN WE WILL BE PLANTING TREES AT SOME DESIGNATED LOCATION TO CELEBRATE THAT DAY.

[VII. Public Comment]

LET ME GO BACK TO WHERE WE ALREADY. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

KIM, WE HAVE SEVERAL SEVERAL IN FIVE OR SEVERAL AS IN TWENTY SEVERAL THOUSAND TWENTY FIVE TWENTY FIVE OK. 2 FIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE YOU REGISTERED BEFORE COUNCIL? WE PUT YOU IN A ROOM AND YOU CAN SPEAK.

WE ARE VERY STRICT IN THREE MINUTES AND I'M NOT RUDE TO STOP IT.

PUT YOUR POINTS FRONT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THAT THREE MINUTE MARK WHO'S UP?

>> OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IS LAURA MARTELL AT MY SCREEN HERE THE TIMER.

CAN THEY HEAR ME IN THE ROOM? KIM YES. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WAIT

FEEL. >> COMMENT IS LAURA STYLE. ALL RIGHT.

WE NEED TO TURN OFF WHATEVER YOU SAY. I'M LISTENING TO YOU.

I DID THAT. SORRY. I HEAR ME HEARING YOU.

>> YOUR. YEAH. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE NOT WE ALWAYS ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT.

EVERY SINGLE LINE THAT PLEASE. WE'VE GOT TO STAY WITHIN THREE MINUTES.

SO IF YOU RE NOT A PROBLEM I'LL GET STARTED RIGHT NOW. NAME YOUR SO MUCH GIVING A NAME

AND YOU CAN GET IT ON AND ALL THAT. >> LAUREN I'VE GOT AN ADDRESS AND STARTED YELLING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU

TODAY AM I ACTUALLY ARE STARRING IN. >> HEY CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? ARE YOU FINE? OK. SORRY HAD THE DOG BARKING FOR A SECOND SO I'M GOING OUT TO MY FAMOUS OTHER AREA SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ON VIDEO OR NOT BUT ANYWAY IT'S NICE TO SPEAK TO EACH ONE OF YOU DURING THE COURSE THIS WEEK.

I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING YOUR TIME AVAILABLE FOR SPEAKING TO ME ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT

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ISSUE WHICH IS THE MASK ORDINANCE AND AS WE SAW YESTERDAY, BEAUFORT WENT AHEAD AND IS LETTING THEIRS EXPIRE AND I HOPE TODAY THE BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER DOING THE SAME. I AM AN ATTORNEY. I LIVE IN ROSE HILL IN BLUFFTON. AND SO IN THE 2 9 9 1 0 AREA CODE I GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN BLUFFTON AND IT'S EXTREMELY CONFUSING BECAUSE EACH AREA IS GOVERNED BY A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES AND WHEN WE GET INTO TOO MANY RULES IT'S ALMOST AS THOUGH WE HAVE NO RULES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED IS THAT THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T EVEN ENFORCEABLE AND YOU'RE NOT USING IT TO ENFORCE IT WHICH MEANS IT'S REALLY JUST THERE AS AN OVERREACH AT THIS POINT. I AS AN ATTORNEY I'M SEEING PEOPLE COME INTO MY OFFICE WHO ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST FOR HAVING VARIOUS LEGITIMATE EXCEPTIONS TO THE MASSIVE ORDINANCE. AND SO THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME DISCRIMINATION IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WEAR MASKS OR FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO WORK AND WEAR MASKS ALL DAY WITH VERY LITTLE BREAKS SO THAT THEY CAN BREATHE SOME FRESH AIR. I HAVE LET YOU KNOW INCITED VERY WELL WITH AN E-MAIL TO YOU ON THE DIFFERENT REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD MEET IN PERSON NEXT MONTH. ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS HAVE OPENED UP INCLUDING THE STATE THE COUNTY AND OTHER AREAS AND TAXPAYERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET INTO THE BUILDINGS. COURT HAS OPENED UP AGAIN. I'M AN ATTORNEY.

I'VE BEEN GOING TO COURT FOR THE LAST WEEK. THINGS ARE OPENING UP SO WE CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL. AND SO WITH NUMBERS DOWN AND PEOPLE STILL CAN VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE TO USE THE MASKS, IT JUST NEEDS NOT BE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

CONFUSING EVERYONE BECAUSE IT'S CONTRADICTORY TO OTHER OTHER AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT BY US.

SO IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF CHAOS. AND AS AN ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN ASKED BY SOME PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE WITH THE MASK MANDATES BECAUSE I'M HOPING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND LET THIS EXPIRE ON ITS OWN TODAY. I HAVE SEVEN SECONDS YET SO I'M GOING LIKE SAY THANK YOU AGAIN IN ADVANCE FOR WHAT YOU'RE DO. IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB BUT I PRAY THAT YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. THANKS, LAUREN.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO WE CAN HAVE IT BECAUSE IT TAKES MINUTES OFFICE.

SURE. LAUREN MARTEL IT MAY RTL AND 2 4 3.

CLUB GATE ROSE HOWELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OK, THANK YOU.

I CAN GET THE NEXT ONE HIM IN PLEASE GUYS. WE WANT YOU TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES BUT IF YOU JUST SAY DITTO IT CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH US.

IT REALLY DOES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REITERATE THE SAME EXACT THING.

WE JUST WANT YOUR NAME AND WE'LL COPY AND PASTE WHATEVER PART YOU WANT.

BUT PLEASE LET US GET TO THESE ACTION ITEMS SO YOU CAN STAY ONLINE AND WATCH OUR VOTES.

BUT WE HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TWO HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT IF NOT SO ANYWAY.

WHO'S THAT NEXT TO TOMMY? >> I MEAN IT'S LETTIN PEOPLE AND GURUS DREW'S AT LOW ON OUR SIDE BE SPEEDY ABOUT IT. I MEAN WE CAN YEAH. I'M HERE.

>> WHO IS IT? CAN YOU SAY? SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE ARE VERY STRICT ON THE THREE MINUTES SO START WITH NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE WILL LISTEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS. WELL ACTUALLY I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY COMMENT.

EVEN SO I AM PASSING TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> WELL THANK YOU MRS. DRUSE FOR COMING ON AND I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR US AND SEE OUR MEETING AND I APPRECIATE THAT MORE THAN I THINK ALL OF COUNSEL APPRECIATES THE TIMELINESS. THANK YOU.

OK. WHO'S NEXT? TOMMY? IT WILL BE ANGELA RESIGN ROSARIO OK ANGELA JUST CONNECT THEM.

OK. IT'S HARD. I DON'T HAVE EVERYONE ON THE SCREEN FOR SOME REASON WITH CLOCK. ANGELA STILL LOOKS LIKE SHE'S

CONNECTING. >> SHE'S CONNECTING TO AUDIO. >> OK, ANGELA I'M JUST

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CONNECTING MAYBE TOMMY IF WE COULD PASS TO THE NEXT PERSON. COME BACK FOR MAYBE.

>> MAYBE WE CAN GET ONE IN THE ROOM ON US AND ONE WHOLE KIND OF THING, RIGHT?

>> YEAH. LEO MCCARTHY. SO AS ANGEL LIKE AN ANGEL WILL BE CONNECTING AND GETTING IN ON IT. OR LEAH IS CONNECTED.

>> LEAH LEAH HELLO. DON'T ASK DON'T SEE LEAH MCCARTHY LOOKS LIKE SHE'S CONNECTING GAUDIO RIGHT NOW. NOW SHE'S GOING LEAH COMMUNITY LEAH YOU'RE MUTED BUT I DON'T SEE. SO I'M JUST TAKING LEAH YOU'RE MUTED.

>> I DON'T SEE HER. SHE'S ON SHE'S JUST MUTED. >> LEAH YOU'RE MUTED.

IF YOU HEAR US SHOUTING ONCE WHERE ARE YOU? ARE YOU ON I HAVE HERE GETTING OVER AUDIO. OK, LET'S GO AND SOMEONE ELSE CALL ME HOME.

BRIAN I'LL MAKE. NO, HE'S PRESENTING. HE'S NOT A PROBLEM.

I'M SORRY. I MEAN I OK. WHO'S NEXT?

>> THERE'S ANGELA. I JUST SAW ANGELA. >> ANGELA? YES, I'M HERE. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

LISTEN, WE VALUE YOUR COMMENTS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST WANT. I AGREE WITH THE LAST SPEAKER.

WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION THAT YOU AGREE WITH OTHERS.

SO THREE MINUTES NAME ADDRESS. OK. >> MY NAME IS ANGELA A SOLO WORK 48 AUGUST WROTE. YOU'RE IN BLUFFTON. AND I WANTED CALL INS TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO VOICE OUR POINTS OF VIEW REGARDING THE MASK MANDATE.

AT THIS POINT WITH ALL THE RESEARCH THAT'S OUT, I DON'T FEEL THAT MASKS ARE EFFECTIVE AND I DON'T FEEL THAT THEY ARE SAFE. I'VE BEEN READING INFORMATION ABOUT NANOPARTICLES BEING INHALED THROUGH THE FABRIC AND THE MEDICAL MASKS AND MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE KEPT OUR FOUR DAUGHTERS HOME ON VIRTUAL SCHOOL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM WEARING MASKS. THIRTY FIVE PLUS HOURS PER DAY .

WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES ON OUR BLOCK OR JUST ON OUR BLOCK WHO KEEP OUR CHILDREN HOME FOR THAT REASON. THERE ARE 10 CHILDREN IN TOTAL FOR MINE, SIX OTHERS AND WITH THE THE AVAILABILITY OF THE VACCINE IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET ONE IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO IN OUR OPINION THAT LESSENS THE NEED FOR THE MASKS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING SUCCINCT AND TO THE POINT. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS LISA IN YET OR ADD SOMEBODY ELSE? THE LAST ONE WE HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR NAME. THEY'RE LISTED AS MY MACBOOK PRO SO I'M BUYING GOING TO GET OK. I CAN'T SEE IT SO THEY'RE CONNECTING OK, IS MY MACBOOK PRO ON THE LINE? THEY HAVE CONNECTED TO AUDIO.

OK, YOU'RE THE NEXT SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DON'T HAVE YOUR NAME SO IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES YOU CAN TAKE ALL THREE BUT WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO BE RIGHT TO THE POINT. LET US KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.

IS IT DOES IT HAPPEN TO SAY OH IS THIS STARTING NOW YOUR VOICE NOW IT SAYS MY MACBOOK PRO AND I CAN'T AFFORD IT. IT'S ALWAYS SANDMAN AND THAT TELLS BLUFFTON IS STILL SMALL.

GOOD. THANKS. WELL, GOOD EVENING.

THE NAME ADDRESS MOLLY. I'M SORRY. I'M AT 114 TIME CIRCLE AND I'M

HERE IN BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. >> AND I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. IN CONTRAST RIGHT UP TO PARKWAY.

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I'M HOPING THAT TONIGHT YOU ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND YOU MARISOL GO CAN HELP US TAKE THE NEXT STEP TOWARDS RETURN NORMAL BY SETTING AN EXPIRATION DATE OF THIS MASS MANDATE OF APRIL 15TH THAT THANKFULLY THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL VOTED TO EXPIRE ON THE 15TH AS WELL.

I ATTENDED THAT MEETING LAST NIGHT AND WAS STRUCK BY THE FEELING THAT NOT NOT MANY OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE TRULY LISTENING TO THE VERY GOOD AND PASSIONATE AND FACTUAL MARK'S REMARKS THAT WERE MADE. AND I JUST KNOW THAT OUR TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE HEARING WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO JUST TO REITERATE SOME OF MY POINTS FROM LAST NIGHT PARIBAS SOUTH DEE HACK AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF OUR STATE RANKS IN THE TOP FIVE NATIONWIDE IN VACCINE ADMINISTRATION AND THAT'S AN AMAZING THING.

THOSE THAT ARE AT THE HIGHEST RISK LEVELS HAVE HAD PHENOMENAL ACCESS TO GETTING THE VACCINE AND THAT PROTECTION THAT THEY NEED FOR THOSE THAT ARE YOUNGER AND FAR LOWER RISK LEVELS CONTINUING TO KEEP THIS MANDATORY MASS MANDATE AND PLACES EXHAUSTIVE AND UNWARRANTED. NOW SOMETHING THAT GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION LAST NIGHT.

WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DON'T CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS REGARDING THE MASKS, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE COUNTY AND TOWN LEVELS WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR DECISIONS AND THAT'S WHY WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE IS SO IMPORTANT. THE CDC DATA JUST SIMPLY DOES NOT SHOW THAT THERE'S ANY KIND OF SIGNIFICANT TRANSMISSION RISK AMONG CHILDREN'S AND TEENS.

OUR KIDS ARE MASKED ON BUSES AND IN SCHOOLS IN SCHOOL FOR UP TO EIGHT HOURS EIGHT HOURS BETWEEN BUSSING AND SCHOOLS WITH ONLY VERY BRIEF PERIODS OF REST FROM THEIR FACE COVERINGS. THE LITTLE ONES HAVE RECESS AND PLAY PERIODS BUT NOT THOSE IN MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, AS ADULTS WE CAN TAKE A BREAK, WE CAN WALK OUTSIDE, WE CAN CLOSE OUR DOOR. THEY CAN'T. OUR KIDS ARE MENTALLY EXHAUSTED FROM THIS AND IT'S TAKING A TOLL. I AM GOING TO SKIP AROUND A LITTLE BIT JUST TO POINT OUT THAT ON THE CDC WEB SITE THERE THEIR WEBSITE INDICATES THAT MASKS ARE LESS THAN 2 PERCENT EFFECTIVE AT PROTECTING AGAINST A VIRUS THAT HAS NINETY NINE POINT SEVEN PERCENT RECOVERY RATE WEARING MAX TO PROTECT AGAINST COBE IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF TAKING AN ALLERGY PILL TO GET RID OF HEARTBURN. IT DOES VERY LITTLE IF ANYTHING AT ALL. WE'RE KIND OF THEY'RE GIVING THESE MASS OR GIVING US A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY MASS ARE MEANT FOR THE SICK AND NOT FOR THE HEALTHY.

NEVER IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY HAVE WE QUARANTINED AND MASKED HEALTHY PEOPLE WASH OUR HANDS, STAY AT HOME IF YOU'RE SICK, EAT GOOD FOODS AND EXERCISE JUST PLEASE I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD. YOU'LL HELP US SEE ONE ANOTHER'S FACE AGAIN.

FACES AGAIN. FOLLOW THE GOVERNOR, FOLLOW THE COUNTY AND HELP IN THIS MASS MANDATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME NOT PLACING YOUR MEAT IN.

>> YES, I I'M I HOPE THAT'S THE LAST TIME YOU TELL ME THAT THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IN THE WAITING ROOM ABOUT LEO MCCARTHY. SHE LEFT.

I KNOW LEO MCCARTHY IS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH HER SIGNAL RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S IN AND OUT. I KNOW THAT SHE'S TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET ON.

THANK YOU, MOLLY. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE WAITING ROOM, KIM? NO, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON IF SHE CAN GET ON. I'LL MAKE AN EXCEPTION.

BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO MOVE ON RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER.

NEXT IS COMMUNICATIONS FROM HERE IN COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYTHING FROM YOUR AND COUNCIL TODAY? YES. I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IN YES. HOPEFULLY I'M COMING THROUGH CLEAR.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONNECTIVE CONNECTIVITY ISSUES ON MY END AND MY GOOD RIGHT.

>> YOU'RE GOOD. OH WELL YOU WERE YOU FROZEN OR FROZEN BRIDGET? YES. YOU CAN HEAR WHEN YOU CAN SHE HEAR THAT SHE'S FROZEN WHEN SHE'S FROZEN SO I'LL YEAH I'M HERE I SAID IT'S FROZEN SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND COMMUNICATE MIR TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM CONSTITUENTS IN REGARDS TO THE TREES AND WHAT'S GOING ON OUT ON CALHOUN STREET AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE HAS NOT FALLEN ON DEAF EARS AND THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY DONE EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN OUR POWER TO AVERT THAT AS MUCH AS WE COULD. IT CAME DOWN AT THE END OF DAY TWO THINGS THAT WERE NOT IN OUR CONTROL BUT THAT KEEP IT IN MIND OF WHAT WE DO DURING ARBOR DAY AND JUST GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THIS IS A PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REPLENISH. BRIDGET, YOU'RE FROZEN AGAIN. I PROBABLY CAN FINISH HER

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SENTENCE. JUST TELL HER SHE'S FROZEN FIERCELY BECAUSE WE ARE OK.

>> I CAN'T. BRIDGET, YOU WERE KIND OF GOING IN AND OUT BUT I'M.

I'LL REITERATE YOUR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. LET ME JUST JUMP IN.

THIS HAS BEEN A VERY EMOTIONAL ISSUE THAT WE JUST NEED TO GET THE EDUCATION OF WHAT GOES ON WHEN UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE TRUE EASEMENT RIGHTS AND THEY ARE RUN BY THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. WE'VE HAD COUNSEL PEOPLE ALL YESTERDAY AND TODAY PERSUADING AND TRYING TO GET DOMINION TO UNDERSTAND OUR EMOTION ABOUT THESE TREES.

I'M AS EMOTIONAL AS THE NEXT PERSON IS. SOME RUDE LANGUAGE WAS THROWN OUT TODAY ON THE STREET. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND BRIDGET HIT IT.

THEY NEED TO BE AT LEAST HAD THE EDUCATION IN FRONT OF THEM OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE WHAT EAST SIDE OF THE STREET IS NOT BEING TOUCHED. THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS NOT LEADING THE CHARGE IN CUTTING DOWN THESE TREES. WE DON'T WANT THEM DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET HAS NO POWER LINES AND DARE ANYONE TO TOUCH A PALM TREE.

AND I THINK I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.

THEY'RE NOT ALL COMING DOWN BUT THEY ARE COMING DOWN BECAUSE DOMINION FEELS THERE'S A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. I DON'T PERSONALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL THAT WAS THERE TODAY PERSONALLY AGREES WITH THAT.

OUR LEGISLATORS AND OUR SENATOR HAVE BEEN ON IT. WE ARE TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN. BUT I WANT TO THROW OUT A SUGGESTION THAT CAME FROM GEORGE AND MIKE REYNOLDS AND THAT IS AND I'VE TALKED TO SCOTT SO I'M HOPING COUNSEL UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS COULD BE A GOOD THING THEY HAVE A SAY IN IT TO PLEASE SAY SOMETHING TO BRING LOGS OF FIVE OR SIX FEET IN LENGTH OF THE PALM TREES THAT THEY ARE CUTTING AND PUT THEM DOWN PERHAPS RIGHT. FAMILY PART PERHAPS ON THE WALL WHERE IT SAYS NO TRESPASSING AND LET'S BLOCK NO TRESPASSING SIGN AND MAYBE BURY THEM VERTICALLY AND HAVE A TRUE STORY BOARD OF WHY THOSE TREES WERE PLANTED THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

NOT NOT NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHY THEY WERE PLANTED ON NO OTHER PLANTED BUT WHO MOVED THAT MOVED HERE LAST MONTH KNOWS THAT THOSE TREES ARE THEREFORE LOST ARE LOST MILITARY IN WORLD WAR ONE. SO I THINK IT GIVES IT A LITTLE LEMON MADE OUT OF A LEMON.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF A SITUATION THAT'S NOT GOOD. WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE TO DO BETTER OF UNDERSTANDING THE DIGITAL NETWORK, HOW TO GET INFORMATION ACROSS TO OUR RESIDENTS AND FIND A WAY TO EDUCATE MORE THAN JUST ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND WE ALL DO THE BEST WE CAN. BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AT LIKE THE YOUNG LADY. YOU'RE WILLING TO SAY WHEN YOU'VE MADE A BAD DECISION AND WE WERE NOT OUT IN FRONT OF THIS ENOUGH AND BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.

I TALKED TO THE PROJECT MANAGER . HE WAS SO HAPPY TO ENGAGE AND HELP US IN ANY WAY. I THINK SCOTT WAS GONNA GET DEREK ON IT.

IF NOTHING ELSE, LET'S HOLD THOSE LOGS FOR SOME USE BEFORE THEY'RE GRAND.

IT'S ARBOR DAY AND I GET IT. I READ A PROCLAMATION AND A SLACKS THE FACE OF WHAT I WITNESSED TODAY AND I AND I GET IT. BUT I'D RATHER YOU CALL ME AND GET THE INFORMATION RATHER THAN POST SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WORK REALLY HARD FOR NOTHING TO SUPPORT THIS TOWN.

SO I'M OFF MY SOAPBOX. YOU'RE DONE. I'M DONE.

IT'S MY TURN. GO LAYER. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND LISA AND DAN AND THE REST OF US. WE AS A GROUP NONE OF US WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN.

WE WERE OVERPOWERED, STEAMROLLED BASICALLY FROM OUR HUGE DOMINION ENERGY UTILITY COMPANY SINCE THEN AFTER NUMEROUS THE MAYOR RECEIVED NUMEROUS NASTY UNCALLED FOR REMARKS BY SOME OF OUR CITIZENS IS PROBABLY A GOOD ONE THERE AT THE MOMENT.

BUT IN LIGHT OF THAT I DID RECEIVE A CALL A MOMENT OR TWO AGO RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED THIS MEETING. LISA HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO TELL YOU THAT I'M I'M GET IT. I GOT A CALL THAT SAID THAT OUR LEGISLATORS HAVE MADE SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS JUST IN THE LAST HOUR AND THAT THERE MAY BE A SLOWING OR A TIME PERIOD.

SO THERE MAY BE A WAY OF STOPPING THE REMAINING TREES FROM BEING CUT.

THAT'S NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENTARY THING BUT IT IS A LITTLE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL AND I HOPE THAT MY INFORMATION SOURCE IS ON PHONE TOO. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO TAKE EVERYBODY FOR TAKING THE ABUSE FROM SOME OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THINK THAT WE ARE THE ONES THAT

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WANTED TO CUT DOWN THOSE TREES SO WE COULD BUILD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY THINK WE WANT TO BUILD BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S MY STORY. I'M DONE.

[VIII. Communications from Mayor and Council]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ANYONE ELSE ON

ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE TOWN HERITAGE WEEK? >> WE HAVE FOR AN HOUR MAYBE FIVE STUDENTS THAT RECEIVED A VERY NICE SCHOLARSHIP YEARLY FOR FOUR YEARS TO GO TO COLLEGE . AND I HOPE WE'LL POST THEM ON THE HERITAGE SITE.

AND WE HAVE SO MANY NONPROFITS INCLUDING KAPPA IN SOME WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IN OUR PROCLAMATION THEY GET SOME GREAT MONEY FROM THAT TOURNAMENT.

SO LET'S HAVE OUR HERITAGE PLAT ON AND SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS IN THAT TOURNAMENT COMES ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND MONEY AND HELP FOR A LOT OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT AND

[IX.1. Discussion and Direction on the Annexation and the Designation of the Appropriate Town of Bluffton Zoning District for the 9.27 Acre Town Owned Property Located at 115 Bluffton Road - Heather Colin, Director of Growth Management]

I HOPE ALL OF US SEE EACH OTHER AT SOME POINT NEXT YEAR WORKSHOP ITEMS. FIRST IS THE DISCUSSION ON DIRECTION ON ANNEXATION AND DESIGNATION OF THE APPROPRIATE TOWN OF DISTRICT 9 POINT TO 7 ACRE TOWN ON PROPERTY ON 115 BLUFFTON.

HEATHER, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAY SHARE A SCREEN FOR A MOMENT

HERE, OK? >> CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION?

>> OK. SO THIS EVENING I AM HERE TO JUST SIMPLY PRESENT FOR DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF A POSSIBLE FUTURE ANNEXATION ALONG WITH A DESIGNATION FOR

PROPERTY LOCATED AT 115 BLUFFTON ROAD AGAIN. >> THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 115 BLUFFTON ROAD. IT IS APPROX. A LITTLE BIT OVER 9 ACRES A LITTLE BIT OVER 7 OF WHICH IS UPLAND AND ALMOST 2 ACRES ARE WETLANDS AND IT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN. HERE IS AN AREA MAP YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY IN THIS DARK RED OUTLINE HERE THE PROPERTY. HERE'S BLUFFTON ROAD. HERE'S BLUFFTON PARKWAY.

SO REALLY TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THIS EVENING. ONE IS SHOULD THOSE TOWN COUNCIL WISH STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ANNEXATION, A REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME? AND IF SO, WHAT SHOULD THAT DESIGNATION BE? AS YOU WILL RECALL WHEN AN ANNEXATION REQUEST COMES BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL? WE ALSO HAVE TO PLACE A ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION ON THAT PROPERTY AT THAT SAME TIME.

THE TWO POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT TOWN STAFF BELIEVES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WOULD EITHER BE A GENERAL MIXED USE CLASSIFICATION OR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION . THE PLAN UNIT ZONING DESIGNATION DOES INVOLVE MORE DETAILED SITE PLANNING AND PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DRAFTED. SO SHOULD THAT BE THE DIRECTION THAT TOWN COUNCIL WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO GO? WE HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH BUT IN GENERAL THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS BEFORE EVENING AGAIN .

>> JUST GOING THROUGH RECENTLY WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THAT ANNEXATION POLICY AND THE VERY FIRST REQUEST WHEN AN ANNEXATION PETITION WOULD BE MOVE FORWARD WOULD BE AN INTENT TO ANNEX AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE PETITION MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS, CONTINUING THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP, A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL FIRST READING AND SECOND READING AS PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION. I DO HAVE I DIDN'T DIDN'T SHOW VERY WELL IN A PRESENTATION BUT I DO HAVE THE PACKET THAT OUTLINES THE DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THOSE ZONING DISTRICT. BUT I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP HERE AND SAY THE ZONE. OH SORRY. YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH QUESTIONS

. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER IT MYSELF. >> GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROPERTY HERE LIKE IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS HERE IS WHERE THE DISTILLED DISTILLERY HAS RECENTLY BEEN CONSTRUCTED WHICH NOW ALLOWS THE TOWN PROPERTY HERE GET CONTIGUOUS THAT TO ME IT IS NOW CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN LIMITS. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE ABLE TO PURSUE AN ANNEXATION REQUEST IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR WE COULD WAIT TILL AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMPLETE OR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS CONTINUE. BUT AGAIN JUST OF YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHETHER OR NOT STAFF SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION APPLICATION.

SO THIS IS NOT A VOTE. BUT ARE THERE QUESTIONS? AND DO YOU WANT TO JUST IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS TELLER THAT HUMANS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD OR STOP IN TRACKS? I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.

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>> OK. DAN BRIDGETTE I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.

>> FINE. I'VE HEARD YOU DAN. YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND

I'M FINE TOO. SO NO QUESTIONS. >> YOU COULD ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. SO IF YOU'RE MY FIRST QUESTION WAS WOULD YOU LIKE SAFF TO MOVE FORWARD THE ANNEXATION REQUEST APPLICATION WHICH WE CAN CERTAINLY DO? THE NEXT QUESTION AND I COULD PULL UP BE OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE USES BUT THE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS ARE EITHER A GENERAL MIXED USE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF VARIOUS USES. AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND WE DO OWN THE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT SO IF DEVELOPED MOVES FORWARD CERTAINLY AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS YOU ARE THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING THAT PROPERTY OR MOVE FORWARD WITH PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT REGARDLESS IF IT'S MOVE FORWARD WITH A GENERAL MIXED USE CLASSIFICATION AND WE WANT ARIZONA LATER IN THE FUTURE THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION WE ALWAYS HAVE. BUT WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT GENERAL MIX ZONING DESIGNATION OR WORKED OR WORKED TOWARDS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT? QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS OF COUNSEL? NO.

THERE DOESN'T APPEAR YOU DO REQUIRE THAT GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY.

YES, SIR. DOES THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

>> HEATHER DOES. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT IS THAT A LOT MORE COMPLICATED AND A LOT MORE STRESS IN DECISIONS TO BE MADE MORE RAPIDLY THAN IF WE GO WITH

THE MIXED USE AND THEN WANT TO CHANGE ZONING AT A LATER TIME? >> YES, I.

IT IS. THERE'S IF YOU'RE PROBLEM YOU'VE SEEN MANY COME FORWARD.

SO A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE ALL OF THOSE MASTER PLANS AND ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS IN PLACE AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS MADE.

I WILL SAY I KNOW RICHARD BRUCE'S ON THE MEETING AS WELL. AND IF I STATE SOMETHING INCORRECTLY PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT SINCE THE TOWN DOES OWN THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND PUT ANY ADDITIONAL LIKE I SAID THAT FLEXIBILITY COMPONENT THAT COUNCILMAN WOULD YOU ASKED ABOUT SO AS THE OWNERS WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, DEED RESTRICTIONS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OR THROUGH A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT CERTAINLY DOES TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME AND PLANNING WORK. AT THAT INITIAL STAGE WE CAN ALWAYS REASON IT TO A BEAUTY ONCE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT PLAN IS, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. IT'S JUST UP TO YOU AS FAR AS YOUR DIRECTION AND HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO INITIALLY PROCEED. NORMALLY THE STUFF WE GIVE RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T SEE WHY I WOULD RECOMMEND GENERAL MIXED USE DISTRICT AT THIS TIME.

AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE RULES IN PLACE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD FAIRLY QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY WITH BRINGING THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND ONCE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE.

WHEN WE KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE WE COULD ALWAYS BRING FORWARD A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

BUT I WOULD SUGGEST TO START WITH THE GENERAL MIXED USE CLASSIFICATION MAYBE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IN GOING WITH THE INITIAL DESIGNATION OF THE GENERAL MIX WE SUFFER WOULD ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS FROM YOUR STAFF COULD IT POTENTIALLY IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH TO A PDP USE TO DEVELOP MSA WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING? WE WANTED TO START LIKE SOME

I'LL GO WITH THE THE THE FIRST ONE IS BEING A GENERAL EXCUSE. >> HEATHER.

QUESTION DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY ON BOTH AND I AGREE WITH I'D LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND BECAUSE I REALLY AM NOT IN YOUR WORLD TO KNOW WHAT WORKS AND IF WE CAN EVENTUALLY GET A PDA I GET IT. BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THERE ARE SOME USES THAT ARE OFF THE TABLE? CAN WE DO THAT IN EITHER DESIGNATION BECAUSE COUNCILS YEARS FROM NOW I MEAN WE KNOW WE DON'T PROBABLY WANT A GAS STATION AND WE DON'T WANT ADULT YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS WE DON'T WANT. SO HOW DO WE DO THAT IN I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD SINCE WE SINCE WE SINCE YOU COUNCIL ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY YOU CAN CONTROL THAT THROUGH DEED RESTRICTIONS. AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT THROUGH ASSISTANCE WITH TERRY FINGERS OFFICE AND RICHARD SOME OF BRUCE AS FAR AS THE LEGAL THE LEGAL WAY TO ADDRESS THAT AND MOVE FORWARD AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT THROUGH THROUGH THE STAFF REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE WE BRING THAT BEFORE YOU.

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I THINK WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS AND WORKSHOP ITEMS ON THIS. SO I THINK THAT STAFF I'M CONFIDENT THAT STAFF CAN BRING FORWARD A LIST OF USES THAT WE MAY NOT WANT TO CONSIDER FOR THAT PROPERTY LIKE THAT AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS. HEATHER.

LET ME CLARIFY. EXCUSE ME. WHERE I'M SORRY IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE OUR PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ORDER COMPLETED AND ALL THAT. IF WE DO THE PD NOW. YES, SIR.

WHERE WHERE IF IT'S THE OTHER ONE THE OTHER ZONING THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO FINALIZE

ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO LATER? >> YES, SIR. YES, AND ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO LATER, WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AGAIN, YOU AS THE OWNERS AND ALSO AS THE AS TOWN COUNCIL WOULD REVIEW THAT AND SEE THAT AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE THAT.

SO YES, IT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT ADDITIONAL TIME. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

THANK YOU. >> I THINK DAN WAS ONLY WHEN HE SUGGESTED YOU THE YOU DON'T HAVE A IT'S NOT A VOTE. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH OUR SUGGESTIONS? DO YOU REALLY NEED US TO. AND ARE YOU OKAY ABOUT MAKES JUICE? YOU SAID DO IT AGAIN. OH ABSOLUTELY. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED A QUESTION.

FRED ASKED IS WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION TO BEGIN WITH? >> OKAY.

SO DOES THAT HELP YOU, HEATHER ? YES, IT DOES.

WELL, I'LL START WORKING ON THE APPLICATION AND YOU SHOULD SEE IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

I HOPE YOU'RE A GOOD APPLICANT FOR YOU. THANK YOU.

[X.1. Consideration of Approval of an Ordinance to Amend the Belfair Planned Unit Development Text to Amend Proposed Uses to add the Use “Indoor Electric Go-Kart Facilitates” to the List of Permitted Uses within the Neighborhood Commercial Portion of the Belfair Planned Unit Development And to Specifically Include “Outdoor” to Go-Kart Facilities as Listed in Prohibited Uses in Article 4 Development Plan Section A – Land Use, Subsection 6 – Neighborhood Commercial – Kevin Icard, Planning and Community Development Manager]

I KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE ON TO ITEM 10 NUMBER ONE FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS IN ITS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BILL FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXT TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO ADD IN USE OF INDOOR ELECTRIC GO CART ABILITIES TO THE LIST FOR MANY JUICES AND AS YOU SEE IT ON THE AGENDA IN EUROPE.

>> YOU'VE GOT TO SHORTEN YOUR AGENDA ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OPERATING OK.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THAT I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE SEEING MIGHT YOU SEE THE SCREEN HERE FOR THE TEXT PORTION IT LOOKS.

WE SEE IT. YES. OK.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST NOT GO THROUGH WITH WITH THIS VERSION HERE.

SO WE HAVE A REQUEST IN FOR A FOR APD TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE BILL WELFARE PD AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ADD THE USE OF AN INDOOR ELECTRIC GO CART RACING FACILITY AND TO UPDATE THE PROHIBITED USE LIST TO INCLUDE OUTDOOR GO CART RACING FACILITY.

AND THIS IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION BELFER VILLAGE WHICH IS ACROSS TO 78 AT THE INTERSECTION OF 7 0 FROM A PERSPECTIVE HERE IS THE AREA MAP YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS HERE ON 278 HIGHLIGHTED IN RED FOR THE ZONING MAP. THE GENERAL MIXED USE IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN THE PD FOR BELPHEGOR IS IN GREEN. THIS IS A THE WELFARE PD FINAL MASTER PLAN WHERE YOU CAN SEE THIS PINK COLOR AREA IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS ONE SMALLER PORTION OVER HERE THAT IS ALSO PINK WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT YOU CAN SEE THEY APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO GO INTO THE LOCATION WHICH IS FORMERLY WHERE STEIN MART IS LOCATED.

>> IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THIS TECHNICALLY ANY ANY OF THE ANYWHERE WITHIN THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION THEY USE WOULD BE ALLOWED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS USE SINCE IT TAKES OUT A LOT MORE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO SEE A ANOTHER TYPE OF GO CART RACING FACILITY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN WHERE THE SIGN MARKED WOULD BE

LOCATED OR POTENTIALLY WHERE KROGER WOULD BE HOPEFULLY THE. >> YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ACTUAL TEXT A MINIMUM PORTION OF IT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO INCLUDE IT TO SAY INDOOR ELECTRIC CART RACING FACILITY ON THIS SIDE HERE AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE CLARIFIED TO MAKE SURE THAT OTHER PROHIBITED USES THAT OUTDOOR OUTDOOR CART RACING FACILITIES WOULD STILL BE PROHIBITED IS PROVIDING FOR YOUR PACKET FOR THE REVIEW CRITERIA. I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY ONE OF THEM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. THIS DID GO THROUGH THE

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PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE IT AND THIS WAS AT THEIR MARCH 24TH MEETING THIS EVENING YOU HAVE THE ACTION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, APPROVE IT WITH ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS OR TO DIE THE APPLICATION FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE FIRST READING IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND AND FINAL READING THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED AT YOUR MAY COUNCIL MEETING AND I DO HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU YOUTUBE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

APPLICANT IS ONLINE AS WELL. >> SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND KEVIN I DO HAVE A QUESTION COMMENT SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE INDOOR ELECTRIC GO CART RACING FACILITY.

I THINK IT BE A MUCH NEEDED ADDITION TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH TO BE INVOLVED.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT OTHER AMENITIES WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THEIR INDOOR FACILITY JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY IN TERMS OF WHAT ELSE WOULD GO IN THE APPLICANT IS PAUL MCBRIDE'S SUMMER. I BELIEVE THAT HE IS IN ON THE MEETING HERE SO YOU SHOULD BE

ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. BRAD. >> THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. UM, MUTE BUTTON. HEY, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE QUESTION. IT IS A FRANCHISE.

OK, SPEED HAS INDOOR RACING FACILITIES AS WELL AS GAMING SOME VIRTUAL REALITY MACHINES.

SMALL ITEMS AND FOOD THAT KEEP PEOPLE IN QUEUE WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO RACE.

TWELVE PEOPLE ARE PERMITTED TO RACE THIS TIME. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER TWELVE WAITING TO GO OUT BUT IT'LL REALLY BE A SPACE FOR FAMILIES YOUNG TEENS, ADULTS TO GO AND HAVE A GREAT TIME. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE MAX CAPACITY OF YOUR FACILITY? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY USUALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ARE ARE IN THAT FACILITY SIMILAR TO A TOP GOLF RATING ELSEWHERE THE ABILITY TO REGISTER ONLINE FOR RACES WE CAN ONLY RAISE TWELVE

AT A TIME. >> YEAH. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWELVE TWELVE WELL BEHIND WOULD BE CUTE. EXPLAIN ME THE CARDS HOW THEY WERE GETTING THE HELMETS AND THEN TYPICALLY 12 BEHIND THAT'S YOU LOOKING AT THIRTY SIX ACTIVE PEOPLE IN THE THANK YOU. WELCOME. I HAVE A QUESTION MA'AM.

YES SIR. THIS IS MY BRIDE ALSO DOES THE NICE FACILITY ADDITIONS FOR ENTERTAINMENT BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW THE NOISE EFFECT TO EVEN THOSE IN THOSE.

HOW DO YOU KEEP THE NOISE? JUST THE DECIBEL LEVEL DOWN FOR THE NEIGHBOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORS . THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE CARTS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO USE ARE OTL. THEY ARE ELECTRIC AND THEY MAKE NO NOISE ZERO AND NO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I MEAN ZERO VIBRATION AS WELL. WE WILL NOT ANCHOR ANY OF THE TRACK BARRIERS TO THE BUILDING MEANING THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY TRANSFER OF ANY KIND OF VIBRATION, ANY KIND OF NOISE SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.

YOU WON'T GET TO SEE IT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I'M FINE.

WHAT'S UP? I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE DURATION OF THE RACE.

SIX TO SEVEN MINUTES. OKAY. BECAUSE BRIDGET AND I ARE YOUNG AT HEART AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE WHEN WE GET OUR MONEY'S .

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE POST THE TRACK RECORD EVERY WEEK.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HOLD YOU TO THAT. >> THEN YOU YOU GOT A BETTER RACE. IF THIS GOES THROUGH I'LL THANK YOU.

I'LL BE THERE TO TIME. I'M SPLIT UP NOW THAT ARE SOMEWHERE IN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. PAUL, WHAT IS THE TIMING OF THIS? I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS BUT WHEN DO YOU

EXPECT TO OPEN? >> IT TAKES US ROUGHLY 90 DAYS FROM THE TIME WE GET APPROVAL FOR PLANS BEING TO THE BUILDING PROCESS. SO WE'RE WORKING ON PLANS RIGHT NOW IN THE BACKGROUND. SO IF WE GET OUR APPROVAL ON MAY 11TH WE'LL SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT AND FROM THE MOMENT WE GET OUR PERMIT 90 DAYS TO 120 ARE OUTSIDE BUT 90 DAYS IS

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REALISTIC. IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A LITTLE VIDEO. I NEED A COUNCIL MEETING UNDER REPRESENTATION JUST TO SHOW OFF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I WAS ON ISLAND TODAY AND I HAD SO MANY PEOPLE ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON AND I TOLD THEM THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S THAT 30 TO 40 YEAR OLD PARENT IS MORE EXCITED THAN THE 15 YEAR OLD CHILD. SO BRIDGET AND DANIEL MIGHT BE IN THE LINE. ABSOLUTELY. OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO PROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE BELL FAIR AND UNIT DEVELOPMENT TEXT TO AMEND PROPOSED USES TO USE INDOOR GO ELECTRIC GO CART FACILITY TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES AND ADD OUTDOOR GO CART RACING FACILITY UNDER PROHIBITED USES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE BELL FAIR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN ARTICLE 4 DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBSECTION A 6 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND MAKE THEIR MOTION. OKAY BRAD DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION? YES. YES.

AND MISS FRAZIER SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.

PROVIDING SOMETHING FOR THINGS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I WAS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANKS AGAIN.

ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE AT FINALLY UNDERSTANDING THIS ACROBAT ITEM 10 TO

[X.2. Consideration of an Ordinance Authorizing the Town Manager to Execute an Easement Agreement Providing a Non-Exclusive Easement Over Certain Real Property Owned by the Town of Bluffton Consisting of Parcel R610 036 000 1319 0000 in Favor of Beaufort Jasper Water and Sewer Authority (BJWSA) for the Construction of a Water Distribution Line - Second and Final Reading – Bryan McIlwee, Director of Engineering]

CONSIDERATION OF AN AWARD SONG FOR RISING TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE EASEMENT AGREEING WITH A NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT OVER CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONSISTING OF THE PARCEL NUMBER WRITTEN IN FAVOR FOR IT JUST FOR WATER AND SEWER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER DISTRIBUTION. WE HAD FIRST READING LAST MONTH BRIAN MCKINLEY GREAT TO SEE YOU AND WE ARE AT SECOND AND FINAL READING. ANY CHANGES FROM LAST MONTH

BRIAN? NO, NOT AT ALL. >> I THINK GO THROUGH THIS IF YOU WANT TO SKIP TO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION AS COUNCIL NEED A REFRESHER OR ANY

QUESTIONS OF BRIAN. >> NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SKIP.

SKIP TO THE BOTTOM. ITS SECOND AND FINAL READING IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDING NON-EXCLUSIVE UTILITY EASEMENT OVER CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF OFTEN LOCATED AS TWO HUNDRED NEW RIVERSIDE READ IN FAVOR OF TESTS FOR WATER SEWER AUTHORITY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF WATER TRANSMISSION IMPROVEMENTS.

SECOND FACTOR ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I OPPOSED THAT WAS AN EASY ONE

[X.3. Consideration of Acceptance of the Prioritization List of Capital Improvement Program Project for Fiscal Years 2022-2026 as Recommended for Approval by the Planning Commission – Bryan McIlwee, Director of Engineering]

BRIAN ON THIS ONE DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER FORMAL AGENDA ITEM GENDER ITEMS CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF PRIVATIZATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TWO TWENTY TWENTY SIX AS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BRIAN HAD A FEW QUIET MONTHS WITH US BRIAN DO YOU SEE THIS OR IS IT SOMETHING

FUNKY ON MY SCREEN? >> CAN YOU SEE THAT IT'S A SLIDE SHOW SO WE SEE YOUR SLIDES ON THE LEFT BUT IT'S FINE NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF THAT SHOW.

>> THERE YOU HAVE IT. YOU'RE GOOD THING. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S DOING IT. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S PERFECT.

WE HAVE YOUR FRONT PAGE. EVERY YEAR WE BRING THIS TO YOU ALL.

IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE PRIORITIZED LIST OF CAPITAL OBJECTS. THIS IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 TOO.

AND THE NEXT FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHICH IS FOR TWENTY TWO THROUGH TWENTY SIX.

THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS BASICALLY STATES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE COUNCIL AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL WILL TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER ADVISEMENT WHEN SETTING THE UPCOMING BUDGET AND PROJECT PRIORITIES IN THE PACK AND SAY YOU HAVE YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ATTACHMENT ONE WAS ENTITLED A FISCAL YEAR 2015 BUDGET PROPOSAL.

>> IT SHOWS THREE DIFFERENT TABLES. ONE IS THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE OTHER SHOWS PROJECTS THAT WILL CARRY OVER INTO JUST WHAT YOUR TWENTY TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRIORITIZED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A SECOND SHOWS.

PROJECTS THAT STAFF HAS PRIORITIZED AND WE BROUGHT BEFORE A PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION AGREED WITH ALL OF OUR RANKINGS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BRING TO TONIGHT. SO I CAN GO OVER THESE REALLY QUICK FOR YOU IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER ALL THESE PROJECTS. BUT THESE ARE THE ONES WE'VE EITHER COMPLETED OR WILL

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COMPLETE THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT'S THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION BLOCK WATER REPLACE MULTI COUNTY COMMERCE PART. BACKGROUND LESSONS WILL SOON PHASE FIVE DON RYAN CENTER FOR UPSET OR DONE RIGHT AND CENTER FOR INNOVATION CALHOUN STREET ORIGINAL DOCK RIGHT FAMILY PARK WE'LL FINISH THE LIGHTING ON BOUNDARY STREET WE SHOULD FINISH THE SEWER EXTENSION ON PRITCHARD STREET WHICH IS PHASE 1 AND THEN WE'VE COMPLETED ALL THE PROJECTS AT TOWN HALL. WHAT HAPPENED IN HERE? SO THE NEXT ONE.

THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WILL CARRY OVER TO NEXT YEAR. I CAN GO THROUGH THEM IF YOU WANT BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ANY OF OUR ONGOING

PROJECTS, I'LL JUST SKIP TO THE NEXT PRIORITY LIST. >> SO THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RANKED BY TOWN COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE

PAST. >> IT'S IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER BACKWATER PLACE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO ROTARY CENTER GARVIN AND GARVEY HOUSE INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE. THE NEXT PHASE SECURITY CAMERAS GO THROUGH THAT ACQUISITION BOUNDARY STREET STREETSCAPE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, NEW RIVER TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS. BUCHWALD REPLACED PARK RESTROOMS. PHASE 2 OF THE BULK WATER MULTI COUNTY COMMERCE PARK.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE PAST COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PARK AND ROAD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

SARAH RILEY HOST COTTAGE STONEY CREST CAMPGROUND OPENING OF BLUFF ROAD SEWER DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT. PHASE 1 THAT'S AN I.T. PROJECT AND NETWORK IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE ARE I.T. PROJECTS. SO TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE OUR STAFF PRIORITIES.

WE'VE RANKED THEM EITHER ONE OR TWO. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE PROJECTS. IT DOESN'T YOU. WE DON'T RANK THEM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX. WE JUST RANK THEM IS A HIGH PRIORITY OR IT'S THE NEXT PRIORITY. PLANNING COMMISSION AGREED WITH ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEY USUALLY BASE THE NEXT DETACHMENT IN YOUR PACKET WAS A MAP AND I JUST WANT TO WIN THIS ANNOTATION GETS PUT ALIVE IF YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK IT WILL TAKE YOU TO RC IP DASHBOARD WHICH YOU CAN. IT'S AN INTERACTIVE MAP AND YOU CAN GET UPDATES ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS WHETHER IT'S BUDGET SCHEDULE PROJECT STATUS. I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT. SO THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE RANK THESE THEY ARE LEGAL MANDATES FISCAL AND BUDGET IMPACTS, HEALTH AND SAFETY IMPACTS ENVIRONMENTAL AESTHETIC AND SOCIAL EFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS AND

RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER PROJECTS. >> SO WITH THAT SAID I'LL GO BACK TO THE MAP OR GO BACK TO THIS TABLE AND WE CAN ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS OR IF YOU ALL HAVE IF IF YOU AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIORITY WE CAN MOVE FOR BRIAN.

YEAH. BRAD, ARE YOU ASKING US FOR GUIDANCE AND THEN CHANGE IN THIS THE RECOMMENDATIONS? I MEAN YOU'VE GOT SO MANY ONES HERE IT'S HARD FOR ME TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU CAN DO FIRST. >> THAT'S THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT'S THE BUDGET GETS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT OR ANY WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE RCMP STAFF AND WE KIND OF PRIORITIZE PROJECTS BASED ON THE FUNDING AVAILABLE AND AND THIS WILL THIS WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THE BUDGET. SO WHEN SCOTT OR CHRIS PRESENT THAT TO YOU NEXT MONTH, YOU'LL SEE THAT HOW WE HAVE FUNDING ASSOCIATED FOR ALL THESE

PROJECTS THAT MEAN WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE WORK THROUGH ALL THESE WHERE NO NOT ALL THESE ARE FOR REMEMBER THESE ARE FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 THROUGH 26. SO THIS ISN'T ALL FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. THANK YOU, JOHN. AND NOW THE I MAKE THE POINT.

BRYAN. BUT COLIN ROAD DRAIN IS IMPROVEMENT WON'T BE EFFECTIVE AND AS SOON AS THE ROLE IS INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT TIES IN AND BUT ALSO GO THROUGH IT HAS ISSUES WITH GENIUS AS WELL. WHEN WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO LISTED AS AS PROJECTS TO IMPROVE? I GUESS I'M NOT AWARE OF THE GO THROUGH ROAD PROJECT. BUCK ISLAND PROJECT IS THE ALONG THE CURVE.

THERE ARE TWO CULVERTS UNDER THE ROAD THAT ARE UNDERSIZED. WE'VE LOOKED AT THE WATERSHED THAT ACTUALLY GOES OVER TO SIMMONS MILL ROAD THAT DRAINS TO THOSE PIPES.

SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN THE INITIAL PHASE OF MODELING. WE'VE ALREADY MODEL THAT WE ARE

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WORKING CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THOSE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT AS FAR AS SIMMONS BILL, NO ONE'S TOLD ME I'M HAPPILY ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU AND KIM JONES IF WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THE OTHER PROBLEM AREAS.

I GUESS I'M NOT AWARE WHAT THEY ARE. OKAY.

YOU JUST CLEARED. WHY YOU. WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE THAT MORE OR LESS IS A FORGOTTEN EASEMENT.

IS THAT JUST WHEN YOU'RE DONE ABOUT THIS THIS PROJECT DOES IDENTIFIED ON THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE ARE THE TWO PIPES THEY GO UNDER. YEAH.

THE ROAD FROM MR. JENKINS PROPERTY AND YEAH THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF IT FLOODING THERE ESPECIALLY SINCE HURRICANE MATTHEW. YEAH.

SO WE'RE GONNA UPSIZE THOSE PIPES. THAT'S WHAT THAT PROJECT.

OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DITCHES ALONG THOSE ROADS. NO. AND I CAN TALK TO SCADA T IF WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT THERE TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE OR WE ASSIST THEM WITH MAINTENANCE TO WEATHER MOW THOSE DITCHES OR CLEAN THE PIPES OUT. I CAN DO THAT WITHOUT COMING TO Y'ALL FOR INCLUSION IN THE CFB PROJECT. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MENTIONED FOR MANY YEARS E COMPETITOR IF YOU DARE DO IT.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE OTHER QUESTIONS.

THERE YOU HAD TO GO BACK. >> THE REASON I BRING IT UP AND HEARING ABOUT IT PROJECT NUMBER 20 OR ITEM 20 THE MAIN RIVER ROOT POCKET PARK. YES, WELL WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND IN THAT WAS DONATED I GUESS TALKED NOVEMBER 2017 AND SO TYPICALLY WE DO OUR PROJECTS WITHIN FIVE YEAR CYCLES. SO WHEN IT WAS DONATED IT WOULD'VE MISS A BUDGET YEAR WHICH MEANS IT WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN LOOKED AT TILL 2018 19 BUDGET. SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION WHERE DOES THIS FALL OUT? WHAT IS OUR TYPICAL FIVE YEAR PROGRAM AND THEN EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS WHAT COMMITMENT DID WE MAKE OR NOT MAKE REGARDING THE POCKET PARK BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT IS ASSIGNED TO IT SEEMS AWFULLY LARGE FOR A POCKET. OR HOW MUCH WHEN IT WAS OVER A HUNDRED SOME THOUSAND AND IT LOOKS LIKE A FAIRLY IMPROVED AREA TO BEGIN WITH OUT ON THE SIDEWALKS MAIN RIVER ROAD IN FRONT OF THAT. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT DID WE COMMIT TO? I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. I COULD NOT FIND MY OLD EMAILS.

YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW ANY PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS OR EMAILS FROM OTHER PEOPLE I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WAS COMMITTED TO.

OH I THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN. IT STILL IS IT'S STILL WITHIN AN INITIAL FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME. YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY PRIORITIZED THE PROJECT.

IT'S IN OUR. WE HAVE DATASHEET FOR IT. WE I THINK ARE PROPOSING NEXT YEAR TO START THE PLANNING OF THAT AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR AFTER THAT WOULD BE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. OBVIOUSLY I MEAN AS YOU CAN TELL WE HAVE OVER 30 SOME PROJECTS OF THIRTY EIGHT OR THIRTY SIX PROJECTS ONE YEAR WITH A PRETTY MAXED OUT STAFF.

SO YOU KNOW WE WE DO HAVE IT IN THE PLAN BUT THERE YOU KNOW THERE IS FUNDING AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE HAVE HIGHER PRIORITIES OF THAT BUT IT IS INCLUDED IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE ARE SHOWING IT COMING TO YOU IN FISCAL YEAR 22 FOR AT LEAST STARTING THE PLANNING OF THAT HARP. WELL, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD IT AGAIN LET'S DO SOME RESEARCH TO SAY WHAT OUR COMMITMENT LEVEL WAS. I DON'T BUY NICE PARTS OF PROPONENT OF GREAT MARKETS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THAT SUM OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TARGETING A CERTAIN GROUP PEOPLE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY UTILIZE OK.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS ON THAT.

CAN'T WE CHANGE THE DESIGN? YOU HAVEN'T STARTED DESIGNING IT.

WE EVEN HAD A WORKSHOP ON WHAT THAT PART LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE HAVING THE PARK LOOKS GREAT.

I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS ANY MORE WORK AND IT COULD TAKE SOMETHING OFF YOUR SHOULDERS.

>> WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT I BELIEVE A CONCEPT PLAN TO YOUR OWN WORKSHOP THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

BUT AGAIN, WE WERE GONNA START PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS BASICALLY HOW WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT MASTERPLAN OR THAT CONCEPT PLAN STARTING THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO I'M SORRY WE CAN'T BUILD EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT?

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IT'S EXACTLY IN TIME. BUT YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY HISTORY I KNOW THAT WE KIND OF TALKED TODAY THAT'S A YEARLONG DESIGN PROCESS JUST FOR THAT STREET ITSELF.

SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE HERE WE ARE DOING IT IS JUST IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING THAT INTO OUR SCHEDULES, I GUESS.

>> RYAN, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SPEED IT UP. TAKE IT OFF YOUR PLATE.

I MEAN I THINK TWO YEARS WE DON'T NEED YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD DIFFERENT COUNCIL IF WE CAN LESSEN THAT COST AND PUT IT IN SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THE PARK LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AS YOU FINISHED IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WAS ASKING OR WE CAN DO WE HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. TONER IS IT OKAY? AND THEN I CAN LOOK I CAN TRY TO LOOK BACK AT OUR ARCHIVES AND E-MAILS AND SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING I DON'T RECALL ANY

ANYTHING BY A CERTAIN DEADLINE OR A CERTAIN MAIL. >> WE'LL TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE DONATION AGREEMENT TO SEE WHAT WAS IN THE DONATION AGREEMENT OF BERNIE IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFICITY WITH REGARD TO HOW THAT POCKET PARK HAS ACTED, I I DON'T RECOLLECT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIFICITY IN JUST THAT AS PART OF THE DONATION AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN WOULD PUT A POCKET PARK IN THAT LOCATION. BUT WE WILL LOOK AT THE PARTICULARS THAT DONATION AGREEMENT AND COMPARE THAT TO THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS THAT WE DO HAVE ALREADY AND SEE IF THEY IF THEY MEAN WHATEVER ENVIRONMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SPECIFIED IN

THAT AGREEMENT. >> ANY GOOD MAYBE FOR US TO GO BACK IF KIM AND PULL THAT TIGHT WE CAN LISTEN. I MEAN IT'S AUDIO IT WAS A WORKSHOP.

IF SOMEBODY PULLED THAT TAPE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO IT, I'M SURE I SAID WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE BENCHES BECAUSE WE HAD GREAT INTEREST ON RIVER ROAD BUT THAT WAS JUST IT.

BRIAN, WE'RE NOT ADDING MORE TO THIS. MY QUESTION IS IS THIS CAN YOU

HANDLE THE ONES OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? >> YES, I BELIEVE WE CAN.

YES, YES. BOY. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER COMMITMENT WE MADE TO THE DONOR WE KEEP OUR COMMITMENT IS IF WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU THAN ANYBODY ELSE. SOME BRIAN'S LIST HE'S ASKING DO WE WANT TO AGREE WITH THE PRIORITY PLANNING COMMISSION POSTED WHICH IS THE PRIORITY THAT STAFF POSTED?

>> I AGREE. YOU WENT OUT. YOU WENT.

YOU AGREE? I. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF BRIAN? I HAVE ONE ON THE STREET SCAPE WHICH IS FRONT FIRST AND FOREMOST. YOU HAVE THAT AS A ONE. ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT THE ONES AND IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT THE ONES AND SEE IF WE WANT TO SHUFFLE PRIORITIES OF THE ONES NOT TO ADD A NOT TO BRING UP SOMETHING? IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO THAT IF WE HAVE SOME REACTION FROM OUR LEGISLATORS? I'M TRYING TO GET THESE BUT THESE ELECTRIC WIRES UNDERGROUND FASTER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT AS OF ONE NOW. RIGHT? YES IT IS.

YEAH. CHEMISTRY IS A ONE. AND AGAIN WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DOMINION I BELIEVE THEY'VE GIVEN US A PLAN TO PUT THOSE LINES UNDERGROUND.

IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING OF A PROJECT WITH THE EASEMENTS INVOLVED.

BUT WE HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT AS WELL.

SO WE NEED THE THE DESIGN OF THE STREETSCAPE AND DOMINION'S DESIGN FOR THEIR UNDERGROUND BURIAL TO CO COINCIDE TOGETHER BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE DOUBLE THE DESTRUCTION TO THE THREE IF WE TRY TO DO ONE BEFORE THE OTHER .

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IN NOT TELLING PEOPLE WHAT I HEAR BECAUSE THEY NEVER UNLESS I SAY IT'S CONFIDENTIAL TOLD ME TODAY THEY WERE WAITING ON US. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WAITING ON US. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET ORGANIZED AND GETTING EASEMENTS AND WE HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO I DEFENDED YOU ON THAT AS WELL. >> YEAH.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, WE COUNCIL APPROVED THE ENGINEERING CONTRACT IN JANUARY AND WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH THAT WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON AT THE END OF JANUARY AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PLAN RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE STARTING THE DESIGN BUT IT WILL TAKE TO GET THE EASEMENTS IN THE PERMIT AND IT WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO GET

THAT DESIGN READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. >> SO THAT EXACT THING TODAY READING YOUR MIND. OK, GUYS, WE NEED TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT BRIAN HE DOES HAVE A MOTION THAT IS PREPARED TO SUPPORT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I'LL READ THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, STOP ME. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS? TOWN COUNCIL PRIOR HAS LIST OF PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO TO TWENTY SIX FOR THE FBI TWENTY TWENTY TWO BUDGET SO MOVED. OK.

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THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? LOVE TO SEE YAKI SIGHING.

LOVE IT. LOVE IT. I WOULD URGE ALL OF Y'ALL TO GO ON THAT CFP LIST AND IT GIVES YOU MORE INFORMATION THAN PROBABLY ANYONE WANTS US TO.

BUT IT'S GREAT AND YOU DO GREAT WORK. RYAN WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STATE BY SAYING I I OPPOSED. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

[X.4. Consideration of an Emergency Ordinance of the Town of Bluffton, South Carolina, Extending the Requiring of Individuals to Wear Face Coverings in Light of the COVID-19 Pandemic; and Matters Related Thereto; and Severability - Lee Levesque, Emergency Manager]

THANK YOU SO MUCH BRIAN FOR ALL YELLS WORK. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10 FORMAL ITEMS NUMBER FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF REQUIRING OF ENDURED VIGILS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS IN LIGHT OF THE 19 PANDEMIC AND MATTERS THERE TO LEE ZACH, YOU'RE UP. YOUR FIRST AND YOUR LAST COUNCIL YOU WOULD.

YES. YOU MADE A PRESENTATION HERE THAT I MADE THE OFFICIAL PRESENTATION BUT SURELY CONSIDERING MY FIRST SO THIS ISN'T THE THIS IS HIS FIRST SITTING ON THE HOT SEAT. YEAH. BE GENTLE WITH IT.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. >> THE TWO AUDIENCES NEXT BEFORE YOU WILL START AS WAS MENTIONED WITH THE FACE COVERINGS.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT BACK LAST YEAR WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING THE MASS TO BE WORN.

IT HAS BEEN UPDATED FOUR TIMES SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR AND IS SET TO EXPIRE TOMORROW APRIL 14 WITHOUT ANY ACTION FROM YOU. GOOD FOLKS. THE ACTION TO BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING BEFORE YOU SIMPLY TO EXTEND THE AUDIENCE ANOTHER 61 DAYS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU WERE TO DO SO YOU WOULD RETAIN THE ABILITY TO CUT IT SHORT.

WOULD THAT BE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE? GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION AND SURELY PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN HAD. I WON'T BEAT YOU UP WITH REITERATION OF STATISTICS OR ANYTHING. YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A GREAT NUMBER OF POINTS OF DATA AND INFORMATION AND I WOULD YIELD TO YOU IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS, THOUGHTS OR IDEAS REGARDING A FACE MASK. CONTINUANCE OR TO ALLOW TO

EXPIRE MATTER MAY YOUR YEAR YOUR GOVERNMENT. >> I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. LEE. ANY QUESTIONS?

LEE NO. >> QUESTIONS. MAY I DO HAVE A COMMENT? AS LEE SAID HE WOULD YIELD TO US FOR OUR SUGGESTIONS. MY SUGGESTED OR STANCE HERE WOULD BE TO EXTEND THE MANDATE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH ENDING IT ON ON APRIL 30TH.

AND ALLOWING IT TO BE VOLUNTEERING IN PUBLIC SPACES. BUT I THINK BUSINESSES SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO ABIDE BY THE VOLUNTARY OR FAITH WOULD STILL LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE WEAR MASK AND PATRONIZING THEIR BUSINESSES.

I THINK GIVEN THAT THAT RIGHT AND THAT ABILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET THE SUPPORT NEEDED IN TERMS OF SOMEONE NOT WANTING TO VIOLATE WHATEVER THEIR WISHES WERE, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THE SAME PROTECTIONS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION IN TERMS THAT THEY COULD ISSUE A NO TRESPASSING TO A PATRON WHO DECIDED TO BECOME BELLIGERENT OR WHAT? WHAT HAVE YOU TO THEM. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OUR BUSINESSES NEED TOWN TO HAVE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TWOFOLD ONE AND I WOULD LEAN MORE TO THE CHIEF FOR HER SUPPORT IN THIS CAPACITY.

BUSINESSES HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MAKE ANY RULES AND TO SERVE AS THEY CHOOSE WHICH MEANS THEY COULD ENFORCE OR COULD REQUIRE MASS IN THEIR OWN BUSINESS. THAT IS THE OWNER'S RIGHT TO THE ENFORCEABLE CAPACITY. IT WOULDN'T BE SO MUCH A MISDEMEANOR FOR MAN NOT WEARING A MASK. I WOULD LIKELY BELIEVE IT. AND AGAIN CHIEF PLEASE EITHER BACK ME UP OR TELL ME I'M WAY OFF BASE ON THIS. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE A DISTURBING THE PEACE OR SOME OTHER VIOLATION NOT SPECIFICALLY THE MASK.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? CHIEF IS A FAIR STATEMENT IN BUSINESS AS AT ANY TIME CAN PRETTY MUCH FOR ANY REASON SIGN A TRESPASSING ORDINANCE ON ANYONE.

SO IF YOU'RE IN SOMEONE'S BUSINESS AND OR WHATEVER REASON THEY DO NOT WANT YOU IN THE BUSINESS, YOU'RE CAUSING A DISTURBANCE. YOU'RE TRESPASSING.

AND THE BUSINESS IS WILLING TO SIGN ON YOU AND GO TO COURT THAT A TRESPASSING ISSUE THEIR

CITATION IS AN ISSUE. >> THEY CALL YOU ON THAT CASE. DO THEY ARE TRESPASSING?

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THEY ABSOLUTELY CALL US ON NASH AND WE TRY TO WORK IT OUT PEACEFULLY.

WE I MEAN WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE FOLKS CITATIONS FOR TRESPASSING BUT WE TRY TO JUST HAVE THE PARTIES GO THEIR SEPARATE WAYS. IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. SO THAT'S GENERALLY OUR GO TO YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'RE ALL ABOUT KEEPING THE PEACE SO WE WE REALLY JUST WANT FOLKS TO GET ALONG AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PATRONIZE BUSINESS OR BE SERVED IN A BUSINESS LIKE THAT. MISS BRIDGES ALLUDED TO EARLIER SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITIES TO DO AS THEY CHOOSE AND AS FAR AS THE ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY GOES THAT IS ON THEM TO THE EXTENT THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE AGAIN.

AS CHIEF SAID WITH JUST GOOD PUBLIC OPERATION THEY CAN ONLY REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WE GOING TO KNOW OUTDOOR PUBLIC SPACES WHERE IT'S GONNA BECOME

VOLUNTARY. >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AND I HAVE CONSTITUENTS ON BOTH SIDES WHO WANT TO END THE MANDATE AND THOSE WHO WANT TO CONTINUE IN TERMS OF THEIR PRIVATE SPACES.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUPPORT ON BOTH SIDES FOR THAT.

SO IF THE BUSINESS OWNER MAY IS ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT TO TO DO AS THEY THEY WOULD LIKE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THEIR SUPPORT THERE FOR THOSE WHO YOU WHO NEED IT.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT CAME UP EARLY ON AND SO AS LONG AS THAT THAT SOMETHING IN PLACE IN CHIEF SPOKE TO THEM, THAT'S DEFINITELY THE DIRECTION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO. THANK YOU, BRIDGET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF LEE NOT KNOWING THE OUTCOME OF THIS? BUT CHIEF OR SCOTT, I THINK IT'S REALLY WISE TO MAKE SURE THESE BUSINESSES KNOW I THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO BE VERY CONFUSING WITH THE COUNTY LAST NIGHT. THEY DID NOT EXTEND IT THAT WE LET THESE BUSINESSES KNOW WHATEVER WAY THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY ARE BEING PRESSURED IN SOME WAY THAT CONSIDERS NO TRESPASSING. SO I JUST THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT. MAYBE IT'S THROUGH BUSINESS LICENSE QUESTION BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. YES, SIR. YOU'RE UP.

>> KNOWING THAT I'M PRETTY MUCH ALONG RANGE AS USUAL. I HAVE WITNESSED FRIENDS FAMILY WHO'VE SUFFERED SERIOUS ILLNESS AND EVEN DEATH IN MY PERSONAL OPINION IS NOT COMPROMISED BY MY DECISION OF WEARING A MASK BECAUSE PERSONALLY I DON'T WANT WEAR A MASK.

BUT MY CONSCIENCE TELLS ME THAT I IN MY GOD FEARING SPIRIT TELLS ME THAT I WANT TO TAKE OTHERS AND INFORM THAT DECISION OR THAT FEAR. I BELIEVE BEING SAFE IS BETTER THAN BEING SORRY OR FEELING GUILTY AND THAT'S WHY I AM RESERVISTS.

IS IT IS IT IS IT AN END RESPONSIBLE ACTION FOR PROTECTING THOSE WHO ARE VERY VULNERABLE WITH UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITION THAT IF I SAVED ONE PERSON'S LIFE.

IF I SEE ONE PERSON ILLNESS THEN MY SACRIFICE IS WORTH SO I RESPECT THE OTHER'S OPINION TO NOT WANT TO WEAR A MASK. I EXPECT THOSE WHO WILL LIKE TO WEAR A MASK AND I RESPECT MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES DECISION TO WANT TO END THE MESS OR ON. HOWEVER I AM AGAIN HAVE TRAVELED THIS ROAD MANY TIMES OF BEING THE LONE RANGER SO I KNOW THAT MY GOAL WOULD BE TO

THE TWO EXTEND A MASS AUDIENCE MAYOR. >> YES, LIKE I SAID WHY WAIT? I THINK FRED HAD A QUITE A QUESTION YOU WANTED TO MAKE. JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY.

LARRY, MY. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS IS THIS ONE WHERE DISCUSSING WHETHER WE ARE FOR OR AGAINST OR ANY THING ? I THOUGHT I GUESS IT IS SO.

SO I'LL JUST TAKE THE FLOOR IF I CAN. I'M I'M HERE TO REMIND JUST OF A FEW THINGS BEFORE WE GET TO VOTE ON THIS. BACK WHEN THIS FIRST ORIGINATED IT WAS ON OUR AGENDA TO PASS AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS.

>> I AT THAT TIME WAS NOT SURE THAT WHAT THIS THING WAS THAT WE WERE FIGHTING BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW WAS INVISIBLE. NONE OF US KNEW IT WAS A IT WAS UNCHARTED WATERS.

MY COLLEAGUES OR A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES VOTED THAT THEY FELT THE SAME WAY.

LET'S MAKE THEM PASS A RESOLUTION INSTEAD OF MAKING PEOPLE DO SOMETHING, LET'S JUST ENCOURAGE IT AND PASS A RESOLUTION WHICH WE DID AT THAT TIME.

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I WANT TO SAY IT WAS THE VERY NEXT MEETING WHEN WE STARTED HEARING ABOUT ALL THESE PEOPLE DYING AND SICK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT WAS LIKE HOLY, WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS RIGHT. WE NEED WE NEED TO MAKE IT MANDATORY.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. >> WELL, I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY THAT I COME IN CONTACT WITH AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT. IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TREASON ON CALVIN STREET OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE DOING. ROB. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM A LOT OF WALKS OF LIFE. AND AS I SAID THEN I TALK TO MY WIFE.

I TALK. MY DAUGHTER IS A NURSE. I TALK TO MY SON IN LAW AS A POLICE OFFICER. MY DAUGHTER SHOOTS RUNS A BUSINESS.

I'M IN TOUCH WITH A LOT OF SEGMENTS OF OUR PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN.

THE TOURISTS THAT COME TO BUY SOMETHING FROM THE WASTE FREJA COME TO THE RESTAURANT.

MY PEOPLE THAT TOLD ME OR THESE PEOPLE WHICH WAS MANY OPINIONS THAT I SHOULD ENACT A MASS ORDINANCE OR THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE TELLING ME TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH

. >> MY OPINION IS WE ARE NOT IN AN EMERGENCY JUST BECAUSE IT'S HURRICANE SEASON. WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO WAIT BECAUSE A HURRICANE MAY COME.

WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE INFORMATION AND NO WAY WANT ANYBODY TO BE ENDANGERED BY SOMEONE ELSE NOT WEARING A MASK. BUT I WILL SAY IF YOU READ THE NUMBERS 80 PERCENT GIVE OR TAKE A DECIMAL OF THE PEOPLE 60 AND OVER THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE SCARED. WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.

I'VE BEEN VACCINATED. EVERYBODY COUNCIL HAS BEEN. WHAT I CAN'T SAY EVERYBODY.

MOST OF US HAVE BEEN VACCINATED. THE VACCINATIONS ARE READILY AVAILABLE. YOU COULD CALL AND GET A VACCINE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WITHOUT DRIVING VERY FAR. THERE IS A HUGE SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT DON'T TRUST THE VACCINES. THERE ARE LADIES. IN FACT I GOT FAMILY MEMBERS PREGNANT LADIES DON'T WANT TO GET THE VACCINE BECAUSE THE STUDY HASN'T BEEN DONE ENOUGH.

LADIES THAT ARE PLANNING ON HAVING CHILDREN DON'T WANT TO VACCINE BECAUSE THAT STUDY HASN'T BEEN DONE 30 PERCENT OR 40 PERCENT MORE OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR GENERAL POPULATION ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TOO. MANY OF US AND MANY YOU KNOW I MEAN OKATIE REMEMBER NUMBERS RIGHT NOW SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY HAD IT. YOU DON'T SEE THE HEADLINES OF ANYBODY GETTING IT TWICE.

I MEAN I HEARD THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OF INCIDENCES SOMEWHERE BUT IF YOU'VE HAD IT AND YOU HAVE THE ANTIBODIES THE VACCINE IS THE ANTIBODIES GIVES YOU THE ANTIBODIES AND IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THIS VIRUS, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO I DON'T THINK THAT THE WORKING PEOPLE FIRST OF ALL THAT ARE SERVING OUR CUSTOMERS, WHETHER IT BE AT THE GROCERY STORE OR AT A RESTAURANT OR ANYWHERE ELSE AT MY FISH MARKET SHOULD HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WEAR A MASK BECAUSE SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN. THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

THEY'VE HAD IT. THEY'RE VACCINATED. WHY SHOULD WE MAKE PEOPLE SWEAT? YOU KNOW, I JUST I'M JUST FED UP WITH IT.

IT'S BEEN ENOUGH. I'M HERE SPEAKING STRONGLY BECAUSE I LISTENED TO MY PEOPLE. MY PEOPLE SAY LET US BREATHE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THE WRONG THING.

ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FALSE I'LL SAY MY COMMENTS FOR THE DISCUSSION.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WELL, I'LL MOVE TO A MOTION AND WE'LL GET TO DISCUSSION THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO CONTINUE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR MASK COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE LIGHT OF COVERED 90 OR MOTION MR HAMILTON.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE . I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR MOTION.

I'M SORRY. THERE IT IS. THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONTINUED TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR MASKS, FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIGHT OF COVERED 19.

SO MOVE YOUR SECOND I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE I KNOW WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

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>> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU MAJOR. I GUESS SINCE EVERYBODY'S EXPLOITING THEIR POSITION. OH. OH, THE JURY.

COUNTY COLLECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER. I FELT THAT THAT WAS THE BEST MEANS OF TRYING TO ON OUR SIDE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO BATTLE THIS PANDEMIC.

WE'VE STUCK TOGETHER COHESIVELY FOR AS FOR A WHILE NOW AND THEN THE COUNTY VOTE TOOK PLACE LAST NIGHT AND I SUSPECT SOME OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WON'T BE FAR BEHIND THE COUNTY. THOUGH THE FOR THE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON ON YOUR SCREEN TONIGHT THAT GOT OUT OF BED FOR THE LAST YEAR AND WENT BOY.

I WANT TO WEAR A MASK. I MEAN THINK ABOUT NO ONE WANTED TO DO THAT IN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED AND CHANGED JUST LIKE YOUR LIVES HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED AND CHANGED AS WELL.

BUT WE DID CARE ABOUT OUR WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR LOVED ONES IN OUR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILIES AND WE WERE FOLLOWING THE BEST ADVICE GIVEN TO US BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT.

AND THE CDC REGARDLESS OF ALL THE OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION PEOPLE FIND WHEREVER THEY FIND IT, THAT'S WHAT WE KEPT LISTENING TO AND THAT'S WHAT WE KEPT USING IT AS OUR GUIDE.

SOUTH CAROLINA, THE LADY CITED EARLIER TONIGHT AS A PRETTY GOOD VACCINATION RATE IS THE NUMBER IN THE NUMBER OF STATES. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE TOP FIVE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE UNKNOWNS IS WHERE IS HERD IMMUNITY IS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THEY'RE TALKING IT INTO THE 70S.

SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT COULD EVEN ABOVE THAT. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT FOR MANY WAS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AS ILLUSTRATED BY COUNCILMAN TO A MINUTE AGO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION HAVE NO INTENTION OF GETTING THE VACCINE AND ALSO THAT THEY SAY TODAY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN HERD IMMUNITY WOULD BE ACHIEVED BETWEEN THOSE WITH THE VACCINATIONS AND THOSE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY HAD CODED 19. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY I LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE LAST YEAR JUST LIKE EACH OF YOU WHERE IT IS MOTIVATED ME NOW I KNOW THAT WE'RE LESS THAN 5 PERCENT POSITIVITY RIGHT IN DIFFERENT COUNTY MUCH LOWER THAN THAT. AND AS ILLUSTRATED A WHILE AGO AND ON THE LOCOG REPORT THAT CAME ABOUT I GUESS YESTERDAY IT WAS THAT 68 PERCENT OF 65 YEARS AND OLDER WHO WERE THE MOST VULNERABLE TO THE COVID 19 VIRUS HAVE BEEN VACCINATED AND BEFORE FOR. SO THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE ISSUES IS HOW I MADE MY DECISION TONIGHT. I WILL NOT VOTE IN SUPPORT OF CONTINUING THE MASS MANDATE FOR MYSELF. E AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION NOT I CHANGED LAST NIGHT AFTER THE COUNTY I LISTENED TO MY COUNTY REP. IT REALLY ENCOURAGED US TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS THAT OUR I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FRED.

FRED FRED YOUR LEADER LEADERS TAKE LONELY PATHS. YOU CAN SEE THROWING IT AT ME TODAY. YOU TAKE YOUR LEADER BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING A PATH THAT YOU FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. SO ADMIRE YOU ON THAT. I CAN'T SUPPORT TONIGHT BUT I ADMIRE YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THIS CAUSE YOUR WORRY AND YOU GOT MY DAD IN THERE TOO BECAUSE I LOST MY DAD TO THIS. BUT I DO THINK WE'VE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE MORE LIGHT THE TUNNEL AND HOPE HOPE ARE ALL MAKING RIGHT DECISIONS. WE ALL DO THE BEST WE CAN DO.

BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT. SO IF I WEAR A MASK AROUND YOU WHEN I SEE YOU. IF THIS IS GOES A DIFFERENT SO THERE'S A FIRST AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. I THOSE OF I JUST JUST REMIND YOU ALL BECAUSE FRED SAY THIS IS THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THE MASS.

WEARING ALL IN THOSE FAVOR THE MOTION STICK A SAYING I REJECT AS OPPOSED I AM NO OK SO WE

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HAVE FOUGHT FOUR OPPOSED AND I DON'T I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY NEED THE MOTION.

THE MOTION WAS TO EXTEND THE MASK ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU VOTED I YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE MASK ORDINANCE BUT NO IF FRED WANTED TO VOTE THAT WAY I DUNNO I DIDN'T SEE IT.

SO FRED HERE MUTED. FRED MR. FRED YOUR STORE MADE THE MOTIONS.

THINK I NEEDED TO VOTE? YOU GOT A VOTE NOW. >> SO THOSE YOU WANT TO GET.

RAISE YOUR HAND. DO THAT. DO IT AGAIN, LISA.

I THINK IT'S VERY CONSPIRACY. I KNOW, SIR. THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO EXTEND WEARING FACE COVERINGS. THAT'S THE MOTION. SO IF YOU VOTE I YOU ARE VOTING TO EXTEND THE MASK ORDINANCE. IF YOU VOTE NO YOU ARE VOTING TO END IT AT THE TOMORROW.

MAY OR MAY I SUGGEST MAYBE A QUICK ROLL CALL VOTE OF A YAY OR NAY NAY? YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY. SO WE'LL DO A WILL.

I'LL CALL VOTE. HOW? HEY DAN? DAN, ARE YOU VOTING TO EXTEND OR NOT HERE? YES.

I'VE NO PLANS AND NO. LARRY, I AM VOTING NOT TO EXTEND THE MASK ORDINANCE BY

BRIGITTE. >> I'M VOTING. I THINK THEY KNOW ME.

I LOST IT, BRIDGET. I'M VOTING NOT TO SEND IT TO EXTEND IT, FRED.

I'M VOTING YES. AND LISA. NO.

SO THAT'S FOR ONE GUY. AND I'D BE THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT DO THIS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. ITEM TWO ITEM MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST INTERJECT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD WE HAD THAT MOTION TO EXTEND THE ORDINANCE.

THERE WERE FOUR VOTES AGAINST AND MOTION FAILED ABSENT ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION BY TOWN COUNCIL TO TAKE UP AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO TERMINATE THE ORDINANCE WILL EXPIRE.

I BELIEVE THE MOMENT. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD IT CAME OUT.

[X.5. Consideration of an Emergency Ordinance of the Town of Bluffton to Authorize the Town Manager to Develop and Enact Such Plans and Policies Needed to Ensure Continuity in the Delivery of Government Services in Light of the COVID-19 Pandemic - Lee Levesque, Emergency Manager]

PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY CHURCHES AND FORMAL ITEMS. NO CONSIDERATION OF AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AUTHORIZED THE TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP AND ENACT SUCH PLANS AND POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY IN THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES IN LIGHT ONLY TWO TIMES IN A

ROW. >> YES, THIS WILL CONTINUE. MUCH LIKE THE COUNTY THEY CONTINUE TO WOMEN'S LAST NIGHT IN KEEPING SUPPORT FOR THE STATE AND STATE OF EMERGENCY THAT ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY. THERE IS DISCUSSION AS TO HOW MUCH CONNECTED ONE OF THOSE AUDIENCES ARE TO THE OTHER. THAT'S UP TO YOU FOLKS IN THIS CAPACITY. IT WOULD ALLOW THE TOWN MANAGER FLEXIBILITY THEY ARE AFFORDED.

GIVEN AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION BY YOU FOLKS. TO THAT END VOTING TO END THAT WOULD RETURN EVERYTHING BACK TO THAT REFERENCE NORMAL OPERATIONS AS FAR AS THE TOWN

MANAGER IN NET POSITIONS POWERS GO MADAM. >> YEAH, I GOT IT.

I WAS AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING LAST NIGHT AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT THE REASON THEY EXTENDED IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THREE READINGS OF A VIRTUAL ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE YET TO PASS. AND MR. LAWSON SAID HE WOULD EXTEND IT BECAUSE THEY REALLY NEED THOSE THREE READINGS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ABILITY FOR COUNTY COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONS TO MEET VIRTUALLY CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. CRAZY LONG MEETING.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL STAY UP THAT LONG. OK.

QUESTIONS OF LEE ON THIS. YEAH. SO WHAT WILL BE OUR BASE FOR US TO EXTEND IT? DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A NEED A REASON TO WANT TO EXTEND THAT CURRENT ORDER WITH SOME INDOOR MAY? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. THE ONLY PRACTICAL PART OF THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT'S.

WE HAVE WHITTLED THAT DOWN OVER THE COURSE OF RENEWING THE LAST SEVERAL TIMES AND THE ONLY PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THAT THAT STILL EXISTS IS TO PROVIDE CERTAIN AUTHORITIES THE AUTHORITY TO THE TOWN MANAGER UNDER EMERGENCY CONDITIONS TO AMEND OR OR ALTER TOWN ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS AS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE CURRENT SAFETY CONDITIONS.

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ABOUT THE VIRUS. SO REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO RIGHT NOW THE ONLY THING THAT THAT IS BEING USED FOR IS TO KEEP OUR DOORS CLOSED AT TOWN HALL TO THE PUBLIC AND I WILL TELL YOU IF THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO TREND IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION BOTH IN TERMS OF THE INCIDENCE OF THE VIRUS DESCENDING AND IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VACCINATING GOING UP, THEN I AM LEANING HEAVILY TOWARD OPENING THE DOORS OF TOWN HALL WHILE STILL KEEPING CERTAIN SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PROCEED YEAR AND POLICIES IN PLACE NOW THAT REQUIRE OUR EMPLOYEES TO WEAR A FACE COVERING WHEN DEALING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHETHER IT BE OUR PD OR WHETHER IT BE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SECTION HERE AT TOWN HALL. SO IF WE OPEN THE DOORS WE WOULD DO SO EVEN WITH THOSE MODIFICATION AND THOSE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.

SO WHAT AM I STRAINED BY ALL OF THIS? I'M SAYING THAT THERE IS REALLY AT THIS POINT IN MY OPINION NO PRACTICAL NEED TO CONTINUE THAT PARTICULAR EMERGENCY ORDINANCE . THANK YOU. GET OUT.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SCOTT YES, SIR? I'M NOT TOO SURE.

I JUST UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID SO IT WOULD BE THE MANDATE TO MAKE PEOPLE WEAR A MASK IS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE. ARE YOU DID YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE TOWN STAFF TO WEAR MASK WHILE ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC? WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT POLICY IN PLACE. COUNCILMAN TUMOR AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO VISITING THEN I WOULD VISIT IN CONCERT WITH MY EMERGENCY MANAGER AND MY DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES BEFORE WE CHANGE THAT POLICY. BUT THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY THAT'S THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE. BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND FOR THE TIME BEING WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE THAT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF PROTECTION FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE COME INTO CONTACT WITH. MY GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT IN MY MIND. I MIGHT BE 100 PERCENT WRONG BUT I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE.

IS IS THAT LEGAL FOR YOU TO TELL SOMEONE ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES SAID THEY HAVE TO WEAR MASKS IF THERE'S NOT A MASK ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS. YOU I MEAN IT'S DIFFERENT THAN MY BUSINESS. I COULD TELL ANYBODY IT COMES IN THERE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A SHIRT, SHOES OR THE MASKS AND I'M WITHIN MY RIGHTS. I WONDER.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HERE. DOES A TOWN MANAGER WITH NO EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOR MASK ORDINANCE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY MUST WEAR A MASK IF THEY'RE TALKING TO SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC SINCE THAT QUESTION WAS POSED IN A LEGAL MANNER, I'LL DEFER TO RICHARDSON TO THAT ANSWER THAT I'M JUST CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO ANSWER IT ANYWAY.

SO WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? THANK YOU, MR. MARSHALL. COUNCILMAN TAYMOR, WE DO BELIEVE THAT IS LIKELY LEGAL. THE TOWN ALLEGEDLY LIKELY LEGAL .

SO IT IS MONDAY. LET'S WAIT. WAIT, WAIT.

WAIT. RICHARDSON WHAT DOES LIKELY LEGAL MEAN? IT MEANS THAT IT HASN'T IT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE BEEN CHALLENGED YET AT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT AT A BUSINESS LEVEL A BUSINESS OWNER DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE THOSE SORTS OF REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON EMPLOYEES. THERE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY SOME EXCEPTIONS TO IT FOR THE 80 COMPLIANCE ISSUES SORT THAT DEALT WITH WITHOUT A HUMAN RESOURCES LEVEL.

BUT FOR THE PURPOSE BENEFIT OF YOUR TOWN STAFF AS WELL AS MEMBERS THE PUBLIC THERE IS LEGAL SUPPORT. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT POLICY COULD BE ENACTED AND BE ENFORCEABLE. SO WE BELIEVE THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CASE STUDY. SO WE WOULD BE IF WE IF WE FORCED OUR EMPLOYEES TO PUT A MASK ON WHEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMES INTO TOWN BUILDING OUR TOWN HALL, ARE WE NOT TAKING A RISK OF BEING IN A LAWSUIT? WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SOME EMPLOYEE WANTS TO WEAR A MASK.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE WITH THE MANDATE WITH NO ORDINANCE TO TO BACK IT UP LEGALLY AND I DON'T WANT US TO SPEND OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY ON LAWYER FEES FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT. NO, THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE. THE OBVIOUSLY THE LIKELY WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE TO DISCOUNT THE AUTHORITY QUITE QUITE AS MUCH AS PERHAPS IT WAS. PERHAPS I ALLUDED TO IT.

WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THAT IS AN ENFORCEABLE POLICY. WE AGAIN WE DO NOT HAVE EXISTING CASE LAW ON AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN ISSUE THAT HASN'T BEEN RAISED.

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HASN'T BEEN RAISED AND CHALLENGED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE APPELLATE COURTS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S THOSE USUALLY TAKE YEARS AND OUR COURTS HAVE BEEN MOVING SLOWLY COVERED SO WE DON'T HAVE UNDER PERCENT CERTAINTY THAT A SOUTH CAROLINA'S COURT WOULD HAVE WOULD AGREE. BUT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER REGULATION THAT ANY OTHER SAFETY REGULATION BENEFIT THE PUBLIC THAT CAN BE PUT INTO PLACE.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN MANAGER HAS THAT AUTHORITY UNDER UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA LAW TO IMPOSE THOSE SORTS OF RESTRICTIONS ON MEMBERS PUBLIC ARE NOT MEMBERS OF PUBLIC ARMY ON MEMBERS OF TOWN STAFF EVEN WITHOUT AN EMERGENCY ORDER IN PLACE, EVEN WITHOUT THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IN PLACE. THANK YOU, BRET.

I MEAN I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. I JUST KNOW ONE CALL THAT'S ALL WATCH ATLANTIC.

ONLY THING ON TELEVISION. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP US COVER OUR WHATEVER WE DO.

I WANT US TO BE 100 IF WITHIN THE LAW AND NOT EXPOSE OURSELVES.

DO SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE. WE'RE NOT AT DIFFERENT TIMES NOW THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING THINGS WE'VE ALL NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE AND MOVING FORWARD AND IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE OH WE KNOW HOW IN TERMS OF PROTECTION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND FOR THE PUBLIC. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO ASSURE YOU ARE INVESTED TO THE REST OF COUNCIL IS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD WE'LL ALSO COMPARE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF OUR PEERS ARE DOING. I WILL BENCHMARK WHAT'S GOING ON EVERYWHERE ELSE.

WE DON'T DO THESE. WE DON'T MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND PUT THESE POLICIES OR LEAVE THESE POLICIES IN PLACE IN A VACUUM AND WE'LL WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM AS WELL.

SO SO REST ASSURED WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RENEGADES BUT BUT WE'LL GO FORWARD IN A PRUDENT MANNER AND KEEP THE POLICIES THAT MAKE SENSE AND THE ONES THAT AFFORD PROTECTION AND THE ONES THAT WE CAN ENFORCE LEGALLY IN INCOME TO PROVIDE. IF I MAY JUST ADD ONE MORE LITTLE NOTE. AS YOU'RE LIKELY WELL AWARE, MR. MARSHALL AND PROUD OF THAT MR. ORLANDO OFTEN COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH TERRY AND WITH MYSELF ABOUT POLICIES BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUT INTO PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ONLY LEGAL REQUIREMENT AND THAT THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE'LL BE DONE AGAIN IF THIS POLICY IS CONSIDERED WERE ENACTED AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE.

SO OK. THAT'S FINE. I MEAN TO COME ACROSS AS HARSH TO ANY ONE I JUST I JUST ENVISION MY REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE OF IF SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO WEAR A MASK. I'LL TAKE IT TO SOMEONE'S FACIAL HAIR THAT COLOR THEIR HAIR THE YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT KIND OF CLOTHES TO WEAR OR HOW MANY TATTOOS THEY CAN HAVE TATTOOS EXPOSED OR NOT. I KNOW THAT HAPPENS. JUST JUST NOTCH.

SURE. IN MY OPINION THE THAT THAT'S GOOD TO MAKE PEOPLE WEAR.

BUT I'M DONE NOW. I'VE SAID MY THANK YOU. THE OTHER WORD INTERESTING THAT I'M SORRY I QUESTION YOU, LARRY PARTY. LARRY, YOU BROUGHT UP AN EXCELLENT POINT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES GOOD PUBLIC POLICY FOR TO OPERATE DIFFERENTLY THAN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE JUST LET EXPIRE. BUT I WANT TO ASK THIS RICHARDSON IS THE TOWN MANAGER'S POSITION TO DO THAT WITH THIS NOT CONSIDERED YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE WORLD THAT I WORKED IN UTILITY BUSINESS OR LIKE THE FIRE BUSINESS LIKE A FIREMAN FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE CERTAIN KINDS OF SAFETY PROTOCOL YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN SAFETY ITEMS FOR EQUIPMENT THAT YOU COULD HAVE TO USE UTILIZE.

COULD THAT BE CONSTRUED AS SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I THINK THAT'S AN APT COMPARISON FROM USING YOU KNOW, USING GLOVES AND GROCERY STORE. IF YOU'RE HANDLING RAW MATERIALS TO FARM AND HAVING TO USE CERTAIN PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, YOU ALSO HAVE AT THOSE LEVELS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS BY FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNANCE.

A LOT OF THAT CONDUCT THAT IS THAT IS IMPOSED AGAIN AT A STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL.

BUT AT THIS LEVEL IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS WHAT IS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF IT AND IS IT COMPELLING ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THAT SORT OF THAT SORT OF RESTRICTION? AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE COMPELLING NATURE OF THE KIND OF VIRUS AND THE EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN REITERATED IN MULTIPLE

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EXECUTIVE ORDERS FROM GENERAL MCMASTER FROM CDC, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS COMPELLING SUPPORT FOR THAT SORT OF RESTRICTION. YES, SIR.

COUNCILMAN WOOD, WE DO BELIEVE I. I THINK THAT'S A COMPELLING AND APT COMPARISON. MY NEXT QUESTION IS WE WERE OPERATING UNDER THE EMERGENCY LAW AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN MANAGER. GIVE THEM TO HIM AND PART OF THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ALLOWS HIM TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHEN WE DECIDE TO COME BACK AS A COUNCIL TO OUR CHAMBERS. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A PUBLIC VENUE BUT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS BUILT INTO A AS PART OF THE SAFETY PROTOCOL COMING IN TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS. AND I WAS ONCE COUNCIL SEATS TAKES YOUR SEAT BUT I GET THE DAY AS WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC GIVING ROOM AT THIS TIME. WELL, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE SO IF WE IF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE EXPIRES, DOES HE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO KEEP THE PUBLIC AT BAY?

>> SO GENERALLY SPEAKING IN TOWN HALL LIKE ANY TOWN FACILITY YOU CAN HAVE SECTIONS OF TOWN HALL, THE PUBLIC LIMITED FROM THOSE SECTIONS. SO A TOWN HALL FACILITY IS CONSIDERED A LIMITED PUBLIC PLACE UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL. SO THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE MR. FORESTERS OFFICE, THE PUBLIC IS NOT NECESSARILY ALLOWED INTO THOSE THOSE AREAS OF TOWN HALL ON A REGULAR BASIS . THE REAL QUESTION I THINK WHAT YOUR THE REAL QUESTION COMES DOWN TO WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING.

WHAT IS THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO BE AND IN PERSON ATTENDANCE IF TOWN COUNCIL IS MEETING IN PART IN PERSON. I DON'T BELIEVE THE LAW WILL REGULATE THAT THAT SORT OF PUBLIC PUBLIC PLACE HAS EXPANDED QUITE SO BROADLY TO REQUIRE THAT IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE BE MANDATED. IF THE TOWN COUNCIL IS MEETING IN PERSON AS LONG IT'S AS BEING VIRTUALLY SHOWN OR THERE ARE OTHER OTHER AVENUES ABOUT WHICH ATTENDANCE CAN BE MAINTAINED AND THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS, THEN YOU ARE MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHETHER THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE GIVES THE TOWN MANAGER THE DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT SORT OF DETERMINATION WHETHER TERMINATING THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IN ANY WAY REVOKES THAT. I DON'T. IT REALLY GOES DOWN.

THERE'S KIND OF A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS YOU HAVE THE TOWN MANAGER'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE THE TOWN HALL VERSUS TOWN COUNCILS ABILITY TO REGULATE THEIR MEETINGS AND SO YOU HAVE KIND OF A CUSHION OF COAL IN THAT CASE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE DETERMINATION IN THIS IS JUST FRANKLY THE TOP OF MY HEAD. COUNCILMAN WHAT SO I WOULD OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO TYRION SCOTT WHO MAY DISCUSS THIS IN MORE DETAIL BUT I WOULD BELIEVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL COULD MAKE THAT DECISION CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AS TO WHAT SORT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PUBLIC PRESENCE DURING TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE AS WELL. MY LAST COMMENT.

SO WHAT WAS. WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD YOU TAKE THE ADVICE OF WHAT THE MANAGER RECOMMENDED MINUTE AGO SAYING THAT THIS MAY NOT BE NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE? I THINK THAT THE I THINK.

I THINK SO. COUNCILMAN WOOD AND LARGELY BECAUSE IF IF IT COMES BACK THAT FOR SOME ISN'T THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK INTO PLACE. THE ABILITY OF TOWN COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AGAIN IS IT'S VERY, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD JOB.

YOU'VE DONE IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. IT REQUIRES A MEETING OF COUNCIL TWO THIRDS BY SINGLE AND SINGLE RATING DOESN'T REQUIRE MULTIPLE RATINGS LIKE MOST ORDINANCES. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY IF FOR SOME REASON TERMINATED WOULD BE NECESSARY TO PLACE THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT MAYBE MR. MARSHALL OR COUNCIL WANT TO PUT INTO PLACE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY RECONSIDER THAT.

BUT IN KEEPING WITH MR. MARSHALL'S DIRECTIVES AND WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE THE TENOR OF COUNCIL REWINDING THIS ORDINANCE AND GETTING GETTING THE FUNCTION OF TOWN MANAGER BACK TO WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE ORIGINALLY PRIOR TO MARCH 20 20 IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE TO GO THAT ROUTE. I HEAR A LOT OF MAYBES LIKELY I'M DISORDERS AND REALLY WE FALL UNDER THE GOVERNOR END. HE COULD WE COULD PASS IT TODAY AND HE CAN INTO TOMORROW AND WE ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW SUIT AN EMERGENCY. STATE OF EMERGENCY.

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I THINK I HEARD THAT ASKED LAST NIGHT THAT THAT ANSWER I BEEN TOO MANY LIKE PLEASE MAYBES AND I WAS REALLY NOT FOR EXTENDING THIS BUT ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TIGHTER CONTROL OVER COUNCIL MEETING AS LONG AS IT'S PUBLICLY BROADCAST BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IF THEY WANT TO CALM THAT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ASK THEM IF THEY'VE SHOT IN MCCANN. YOU KNOW WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO WEAR A MASK AND IT'S ALL COUNTY COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND THEY'RE NOT WE ARE A MASS.

SO TOTAL DISRESPECT OF THE RULES. THEY ARE SO I THINK WE NEED TO EXTENDED IT. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO THINK IT WATERS DOWN THE REASON BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT WE HAVE. I DON'T I THINK WE KNOW WHAT HE ALSO FAULTS MAYOR. I JUMP BACK IN HERE BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU THIS THIS WHOLE DOING AWAY WITH THE MASSPORT WE'RE NOT UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR. CORRECT. NOW WE'RE STILL UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY. EVEN THE URGENCY RIGHTLY THAT THE GOVERNOR CURRENTLY HAS AN HE CAN ONLY DO IT 15 DAYS AT A TIME. SO HIS WILL EXPIRE LATER THIS WEEK. HE IS LIKELY TO RENEW IT AGAIN AS HE HAS COUNTLESS TIMES IN THE PAST SEVEN MONTHS. HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO US HOME RULE AND ALL THAT? AGAIN, I WOULD I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS MR. RICHARDSON AND SURELY MR. SCOTT FOR LIGHT ON

THAT SUBJECT. >> WELL, MY THOUGHT, LAY SAID, AND THE REST COUNCIL AND I'M ONLY ME I'M NOT I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW EVERYTHING. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD ENACT OR OR REQUIRE ANYTHING FROM OUR TOWN BOYS THAT WE ARE NOT REQUIRING FROM ANY OF OUR CITIZENS. I MEAN WE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SET THE GOAL AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S OK NOT TO WEAR MASK, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN TELL OUR EMPLOYEES OR ANYBODY.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY NOT TO WEAR A MASK IF THEY FEEL INSECURE AT ALL TO BE ABLE TO WEAR MASKING. YOU KNOW, USED TO BE IF YOU WEAR A GO INTO THE BANK YOU PROBABLY DON'T GET HANDCUFFED AND THROWN ON THE FLOOR. WE'RE THROUGH THAT IF ANYONE FEELS LIKE THE MASK IS GOING TO HELP THEM, GOD BLESS THEM. LET THEM KNOW.

I MEAN THAT'S FINE. BUT TO TELL SOMEONE THEY HAVE TO AND YOU KNOW US TELLING OUR EMPLOYEES AT TOWN HALL THAT THEY HAVE TO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I'M NOT SURE. I MEAN I AND I'VE TALKED TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

I MEAN SOME MIGHT WANT TO WEAR A MASK. YOU MIGHT LOOK AT WHO'S COMING IN THE DOOR TO SEE YOU AND YOU SAY WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET CLOSE TO HIM.

MIGHT BE ME. SO YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR MASK BUT TO MANDATE IT.

AND I WALKED THROUGH TOWN HALL THE OTHER DAY AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE WITH MASKS SO THEY SAW ME WITH A LOT OF MASK GOING ON. BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE BIG I DON'T LIKE THAT. DIFFERENT RULES FOR OUR TOWN BUILDING THAN WE ARE REQUIRING FOR THE AVERAGE GO AND GET THE JUMP AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE IN TERMS OF GO AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT WAS MAKING.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF IS GOING ALSO BE BE PROFESSIONALLY CLEANED AND MAINTAINED TO THAT LEVEL THAT IF WE'RE NOW REMOVING THAT RESTRICTION AND SAYING THAT NO ONE NEEDS TO BE IN A MASS THAT THOSE WHO ORDINARILY WOULD HAVE PREFERRED ONE CAN BE ASSURED THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO A BUILDING THAT DOES PUT THEM ALSO IN HARM'S WAY. NO. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

BRIDGET RICHARDSON. YES, MA'AM. I JUST AGAIN TO KIND OF AS A MATTER OF PRIVILEGE IF I COULD JUST KIND OF REITERATE THAT THIS EMERGENCY ORDER ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE POWERS OF THE TOWN MANAGER.

A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED AND I FALL WITHIN THE POWERS OF THE TOWN MANAGER UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES ANY ANYWAYS THE ABILITY TO REGULATE THE TOWN EMPLOYEES AND TOWN STAFF THAT LARGELY FALLS WITHIN THE DISCRETION IF NOT ENTIRELY FALLS WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN MANAGER. SO THE EXTENDING OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OR FOR LETTING IT EXPIRE REALLY HAS LITTLE IMPACT ON SCOTT'S ABILITY AS YOUR INTERIM TOWN MANAGER KIND OF IMPOSE THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO.

BUT IF HE WANTS TO WHAT HOW HE WANTS TO HANDLE THE CLEANING OF THE FACILITY EVERY NIGHT OR

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EVERY DAY OR WEEKLY THAT STILL FALLS LARGELY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF SCOTT'S POSITION AS INTERIM TOWN MANAGER. WHAT YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS THE ABILITY TO THE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE GIVES THAT ABILITY TO REQUIRE STAFF TO WORK REMOTELY AND GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY AS TO PAYMENT FOR THOSE SORTS OF SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE WORKING REMOTELY REIMBURSING UTILIZING AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND TAKING PRICE PUBLIC WORKS DO ONE THING VERSUS THE OTHER. ALSO A LITTLE BIT MORE REGULATION OVER OTHER TOWN FACILITIES BEYOND ABOVE AND BEYOND THE TOWN AND TOWN HALL.

SO THIS THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ONLY HAS REALLY LIMITED APPLICABILITY TO A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT MADMEN EXPRESS TONIGHT. BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S AN IT'S IN TOWN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO CONTINUE OR WHETHER TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW

SCOTT TO EXERCISE THESE EMERGENCY POWERS. >> WELL, THAT'S I WAS KIND OF BEFORE THEY GOT TO MASS AND I MUST HAVE MISSED A MINUTE. BUT OK.

SO I THINK WE GIVE OUR SUGGESTIONS, SCOTT, WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM AND YOU CAN TAKE THEM BUT AS ARE HIS EMPLOYEES AND I DO THINK WE SHOULD, ALI, SUGGEST TO GET A PLAN ON CLEANING WHICH I THINK WE CLEAN ANYWAY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

THE BUILDING IS PROFESSIONALLY CLEANED ONCE A DAY NOW EVERY EVENING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GUYS? >> YEAH. I'LL THROW SOMETHING IN THERE WHEN THAT CLEANING CAME UP BUT I THINK THE BATHROOMS AT THE WORST FETCH YOUR PLAYING THREE TIMES A DAY WITH IT. I KNOW THEY WERE THERE TWICE ALREADY TODAY YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS IN OUR PARKS ARE CLEAN MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY BUT IN TERMS OF THE THE FACILITY HERE AT TOWN HALL IT IS PROFESSIONAL THING ONCE A DAY AND THEN WE CLEAN TOUCH UP IN BETWEEN TIME THROUGHOUT THE DAY AS NEEDED AN EMPLOYEES ALSO KNOW IT'S PART OF A POLICY TO CLEAN UP BEHIND YOURSELF. WE PROVIDED ALL THE SANITATION SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. THE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOTED WHERE WE WERE WHEN WE

DISCUSSED. >> I MEAN DOES A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS BUT I DON'T KNOW THE END RESULT BUT AGAIN I GO BACK TO THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE ONLY THING THAT THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCES. THEY'LL ONLY CRAFT COMPLICATION RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOR THAT IS THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE DOORS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AND TOWN HALL AND I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE BETWEEN THAT AND BETWEEN HOLDING A COUNCIL MEETING IN PERSON. THOSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHEN I SAY KEEPING THE DOORS CLOSED AT TOWN HALL, I MEAN PEOPLE CANNOT COME IN AND GO TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER FOR ASSISTANCE. WE STILL HAVE THE DROP BOXES OUTSIDE. WE ARE STILL SENDING INVOICES FOR SERVICES VERSUS PERSON TO PERSON INTERACTION. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW SOME PERSON TO PERSON INTERACTION APPOINTMENTS WITH STAFF WITH OUR MEETINGS WITH STAFF WOULD STILL BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

AND AS RICHARDSON POINTED OUT SO WELL EARLIER, THERE ARE CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE FACILITY NOW THAT ARE OFF LIMITS TO THE PUBLIC UNLESS YOU ARE INVITED BACK BY A STAFF MEMBER BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM BEHIND THOSE DOORS THAT REMAIN CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OUR FREE FOR ALL THROUGH TOWN HALL WITH THE PUBLIC JUST RUNNING THROUGH FREELY. WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THE FACILITY BUT JUST ALLOWING FACE TO FACE INTERACTION WITH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES. OK.

SCOTT, I APPRECIATE YOUR WANTING TO PROTECT THE STAFF. I THINK I REALLY THINK DOES A RIGHT THING TO DO. YOU INVITED THEM TO COME BACK WITH THEM AGAINST THEIR WILL.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK AGAINST THEIR WILL THAT YOU GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF PROTECTION. THANK YOU. IT'S IT'S IT'S TWO WAYS.

MR. HAMPTON, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN TERMS OF MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH BEING VERY CAUTIOUS EVERYWHERE YOU GO AND LIMITING WHERE YOU GO.

AND THERE ARE SOME CUSTOMERS WHO MAY NEED TO COME IN HERE AND CONDUCT BUSINESS SPACE FACE FOR WHATEVER REASON AND WE WOULD WANT THEM TO FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING SO.

AND IF IT MEANS WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO NEEDS TO WEAR A MASK IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I THINK THAT THAT'S IN MY OPINION THE RIGHT THING.

IS IT RIGHT? I AGREE WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS. I DO WHA I DO LIKE THAT INITIATIVE BEING TAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

MY ANY OTHER QUESTION TO SAY OR A TIME LINE ON THE DART BOARD IS JUST GOING TO BE THE NEW

[02:00:04]

NORM THAT WE BUILD A 9 MILLION OR 7 MIXED SALAD TOWNHALL TO KEEP THE PUBLIC OUT OF THIS

ONE? >> THAT'S A GOOD ONE. >> I'M NOT I'M NOT IMPRESSED.

I'M NOT IMPRESSED WITH HAVING A BEAUTIFUL PLACE LIKE THAT AND THEN PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE TOWN THAT NEED TO COME AND CONDUCT BUSINESS CAN'T COME IN THE DOOR.

SO I DON'T THINK MY LAST BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS TOPIC.

THANK RESPECTIVELY MR. TUMA. I THINK YOU MISSED THE POINT ON THE DISCUSSION ON THE POINT ON THE DISCUSSION IS THAT WE WOULD OPEN TOWN HALL TO THE PUBLIC ONCE AGAIN.

I KEEP IT CLOSED. THAT'S THE POINT OF LETTING THAT ORDINANCE EXPIRE.

OUI. OUI. OH, SO IF WE DO NOT RENEW THE ORDINANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN PLACE BACK UP. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD. SO I KNOW THAT MEANS THAT YOU WANT IT TO EXPIRE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT IF THERE'S A SECOND FIRST ON THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND TO MAKE THAT NOTION? I MEAN I'M GOING TO READ THIS FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THE MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN EMERGENCY? SO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONTINUING THE SUSPENSION OF NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OTHER TOWN OF BLUFFTON PUBLIC MEETINGS AND MODIFYING THE AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN MANAGER TO DEVELOP ENACT ACT SUCH PLANS POLICIES NEEDED TO ENSURE CONTINUITY IN THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES COVID 19 EMOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND THERE'S NO SECOND SET MOTION DOES SO THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE EXPIRES TOMORROW TO THE STATE OF EMERGENCY OR DOES IT TONIGHT? I KNOW THAT IS CORRECT. IT EXPIRES THE SAME DAY AS THE MASS ORDINANCE.

WE WILL PROBABLY PUT SOME PROCEDURES IN PLACE OR FINALIZE THE PROCEDURES ACTUALLY FOR ALLOWING THE PUBLIC BACK INTO THE FACILITY AND WE WILL ANNOUNCE AT SOME POINT NEXT WEEK THAT THE FACILITY IS OPEN FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE INTERACTIONS.

[XI. Consent Agenda Items]

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT NUMBER WE HAVE A LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION OFF ON? >> IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVE ON. >> ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF SAYING I WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE

[XII. Executive Session]

REGARDING MY RIVER RED STREETSCAPE. THAT'S FOR YOU.

THERE'S NO NUMBER SHOULD BE A NUMBER BEFORE THAT GUESSING THIRTY FOUR SEVENTY TWO OUR OWN PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATING TO A POINT AND A MISS MINISTERIAL RECORDER AND THIRTY FOUR SEVENTY ONE I HOPE I'M RIGHT. YES THAT'S CORRECT. YES.

THANKS KIM. SO MOVED FOR SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER MAY MEETING IF YOU SO CHOOSE WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND SCOTT CAN GET THAT OUT IF YOU WANT TO START COMING BACK SLOWLY TO TOWN HALL. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. OK, OK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY BY SAYING I I

[XIII. Action from Executive Session]

. >> WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN, NO VOTES WERE CAST BUT THERE IS ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT OF A MINISTERIAL RECORDER. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF COMPETING MORE AS MINISTERIAL RECORDER FOR THE TOWN BLUFFTON THEIR SECOND I GET DISCUSSION. CONGRATULATIONS. PLEASE SEND OUR BEST TO HER.

WE'RE THRILLED SHE WILL TAKE ON THIS ROLE. >> THANK YOU VERY COUNSEL.

THANK YOU, LISA. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR STEP OF SAYING I

AM OPPOSED. >> THAT'S UNANIMOUS GUYS. ZERO MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WE'RE DONE. NICE SEEING YOU ALL AND WE WILL DISCUSS MAY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.