Apr 06, 2021 Hilton Head Island Town Council

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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BEAVER COUNTY.

[1. Call to Order]

GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, WILL BE GIVEN BY A FRIEND BEFORE MAY OF MAY.

THEY YOUNG GIVES US SOME VOCATION.

I COULD THANK HIM TO US, THE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, THE WISH HIM IN BED, RESTFUL RETIREMENT IN THE COMING MONTHS, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND A GREAT LEAD FOR US.

AND I REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, LET'S PRAY YET AGAIN.

OH LORD.

THIS COMMUNITY FINDS ITSELF IN A SEASON OF RECOVERY AND RENEWAL.

OUR CHALLENGES ARE NOT THE CLEARING OF DEBRIS OR PHYSICAL REBUILDING, BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY JUST AS REAL RELATIONSHIPS.

COMMUNITY IDENTITY HAVE ALL BEEN VICTIMS OF THE STORM SURGE OF THIS VIRUS.

AND YET THIS IS A TIME OF OPPORTUNITY.

AND THANKSGIVING REMIND US THAT WE LIVE IN A PLACE OF ABUNDANT PRODUCTIVITY.

THE BEAUTY OF THE AZALEAS, THE DOGWOOD TREES, CRYSTAL BLUE SKIES, WE'RE REMINDED OF NEW OF THE FULLNESS OF OUR BLESSINGS AND REMINDED THAT BLESSING IS ALWAYS INTENDED TO OVERFLOW.

THOSE WHOSE FORTUNES ARE MORE NARROW, WHOSE VOICES ARE WEAKER AND EASILY MUFFLED IN THE DEN OF PROGRESS AND EXPEDIENCY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE.

WE THANK YOU FOR THESE WHO SERVE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OFTEN AS A THANKLESS JOB, YOU HAVE THEM STRENGTH OF CONVICTION, PARTS THAT ACKNOWLEDGE OUR COMMON HUMANITY AND WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL WHO LIVE OR VISIT THIS GOODLY PLACE.

AND FOR THAT FINAL RECOVERY THAT IS FOUND IN YOU, WE GIVE YOU THANKS.

AMEN.

[5. Approval of the Agenda]

[6. Approval of the Minutes]

ANY QUESTIONS CHANGES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU AGREE.

OKAY.

IF YOU PULL OUT OF

[7. Report of the Town Manager]

AND SO CONGRATULATIONS, SHERRY, IF YOU'RE WATCHING AND, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU VERY MUCH, UM, CARRIE WAS RECOGNIZED BY HER PEERS FOR HER OUTSTANDING DEDICATION OF FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT LOCALLY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND THAT IN MY SHORT TIME HERE, I'VE HEARD JOSH TELLING ME A BUNCH OF TIMES, AS WELL AS OTHERS.

SHE IS THE GO-TO PERSON IN THE ENTIRE STATE AND BEYOND.

SO WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE HER, UH, FOR THE 20TH YEAR IN A ROW.

WE'RE ALSO NAMED THE TREE CITY USA BY THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION.

SO CONGRATS AGAIN TO THAT, THAT COMES WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH A PLAN IN PLACE AT $2 PER CAPITA, PER DAY, OBSERVANCE PROCLAMATION.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY FOR THAT, A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO JUST AS A QUICK FYIS, THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND COMMUNITY PLANNING TEAM MKS K, ALONG WITH HDR THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD AND WORKING ON THE U S TWO 78 GATEWAY PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN INTERNAL KICKOFF, UM, ON THURSDAY.

AND, UH, THANK YOU TO SHAWN FOR TAKING THE LEAD WITH THAT PROJECT.

AND I'M WORKING HARD TO GET THIS PROJECT, UH, WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE, TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS IN THE, UH, MARIN COUNCIL.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO WITHOUT WITH A MEETING PASSING US WITHOUT YOU HEARING THAT MKS CASE ON BOARD SHAUN'S IN THE LEAD ROLE.

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A LOT OF WORK IS BEING CONDUCTED AS WELL BEFORE THE THURSDAY MEETING.

SO, UM, UM, THE BUDGET TO THE MAY 4TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

SO ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW.

SO STAY TUNED ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS TOWN MANAGER OR REPORT MY MEMBERS

[8. Reports from the Members of Council]

UH, MR. HAWKINS, THANK YOU ALWAYS FAMILIAR.

I WAS UNABLE FOR SOME MEDICAL, UH, READINGS, NOT TO A TREND, THE LAST MEETING, BUT UM, MR. LENNOX, UH, GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO, UH, SERVE IN MY STEAD.

AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A KEY ITEM ON THAT AGENDA WITH, UH, OCCURRING FROM, UH, FRED LYDAS, UH, COMMENTS AS THE, UH, BUFORD COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR, UH, RELATIVE TO, UH, THE HOMELESS MR. LENNOX, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND YOU'RE MUTED, WE REVIEWED, UH, A POTENTIAL LEASE AND A COUPLE OF SITES FOR THE SANDALWOOD FOOD PANTRY AT A RECOMMENDATION WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL.

WE ALSO REVIEWED THE CDBG ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM AND THE 2021 ACTION PLAN.

LIKEWISE, THAT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL, UH, AND IN THE SHADOW OF THE PANDEMIC AND GIVEN ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT, UH, 2020 WAS, WE HEARD FROM CHIEF BRAD TATLOCK AS HE PRESENTED THE, UH, 2020 CALENDAR YEAR ANNUAL REPORT.

UH, AND IT WAS A MAGNIFICENT REPORT, UH, GIVEN THE CHALLENGES THAT, UH, THAT WE HAD IN 2020.

AND, UM, I WOULD SAY PERSONALLY THAT, UH, WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A STAFF THAT'S CAPABLE AND AS WELL LED, UH, AS THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND FIRE RESCUE.

AND LASTLY, AS BILL MENTIONED, WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON HOMELESS AND INSECURE INDIVIDUALS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND BLUFFTON COUNTY.

UH, THE UPDATE WAS LED BY FRED LATER, WHO HAS THE BUFORD COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR AND HIS CASE WORKER, BEN BOSWELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UH, CAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE QUICK TO SAY THIS, THE DISCUSSION WILL BE ONGOING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

UH, FRED SAID WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH ABOUT 350 HOUSEHOLDS BEING HOUSING IN SECURE.

THAT MEANS THEY MAY HAVE SHELTER, BUT THE SHELTER IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

AND WENT ON TO SAY SPECIFIC TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, ZIP CODES, 28 AND 26.

THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMELESS, BUT HE WAS QUICK TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY SAMPLE, UH, HE FEELS THE NUMBERS, UH, ARE LOW AND HE THINKS THEY COULD BE LOW BY A MAGNITUDE OF 10 FOLD.

SO IF THERE ARE, UH, 85 INDIVIDUALS ON A HILTON HEAD THAT ARE HOMELESS, THAT NUMBER COULD BE AS HIGH AS EIGHT OR 900.

HE WENT ON TO MAKE A COMMENT, UH, ABOUT, UH, HOW BEST TO ADDRESS, UH, THE HOMELESS CHALLENGE.

AND HE SAYS A POSITIVE STEP IN THE DIRECT ADDRESSING OF HOMELESSNESS MAY LIE IN OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES, COLLECTIVELY FUNDING, A FULL TIME POSITION FOR A HOMELESS SERVICE COORDINATOR.

HE SAID KEY TO GETTING MOVEMENT ON THE ISSUE OF HOMELESS IS ESTABLISHING TRUST, AND THAT HAS BEEN THEIR BIGGEST CHALLENGE.

AND HE THINKS THAT A FULL-TIME COORDINATOR, UH, WOULD GO ALONG THE WAY AND HELPING ESTABLISH THAT TRUST.

HE CONCLUDED BY SAYING THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

UH, AND, UH, I THINK THE COMMITTEE WAS IMPRESSED, UH, WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF JUST HOW BIG A CHALLENGE IT REALLY IS.

BELLA WAS A PRESENTATION THAT I THINK ALL OF US WERE PUTTING IN THE BACK OF OUR CHAIRS AFTER.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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OKAY.

UH, BEFORE I DID MY PUBLIC PLANNING RE UH, REPORT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A GENERAL REPORT.

IF I MAY, I THINK WE HAVE ALL BEEN EXPERIENCED AND WITNESSED NEAR MISSES ON THE BIKE PATHS.

UH, IT IS UNMISTAKABLE THAT WE ARE HAVING CARAVANS OF BIKERS UP AND DOWN THE BIKE PRIDES.

NOW, THE REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE THOUGH IS THAT THEY'LL HAVE BECOME MULTIMODAL.

WE HAVE ELECTRIC BIKES, UH, WE HAVE ROLLERBALLS AND MULTIPLE, UH, UH, MOTORIZED SKATEBOARDS.

UH, IT'S IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT.

I THINK THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO TAKE A MUCH MORE PROACTIVE POSITION DEALING WITH THE, UH, BIKE ADVI AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD, UH, THE RENTAL, UH, BIKE AGENCIES, UM, THE PDS AND SO ON.

I JUST, UH, CONSTITUENT CALLED ME TODAY AND SAID THAT HE'S A RUNNER AND HE NEARLY GETS RUN OVER BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRIC BIKES.

SO I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, THAT STAFF NEEDS TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND COMING UP WITH AN APPROACH TO SOLVING THE, UH, UH, THE CHALLENGES, UH, OF, OF THE BYPASS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE GOLF CARDS MOVING UP AND DOWN POPE AVENUE.

NOW, UH, THERE'S SOMEWHAT, UH, UM, DISCIPLINED, UH, AND IT REALLY BEGINS TO BEG THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE OUGHT TO BE RE STRIPING POPE AVENUE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN THEIR OWN LANE, ALONG THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THAT'S MY GENERAL REPORT.

PUBLIC PLANNING MET ON MARCH 25TH TO REVIEW AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE THE PROPOSED COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND RENTAL WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENTS.

AND THEY WILL BE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY.

AND THERE'S ALSO A WORKFORCE HOUSING WORKSHOP, UH, ON APRIL 28TH AT 10:00 AM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR DAVID, IF YOU COULD TAKE OVER, UH, WORKING WITH, WITH THE STAFF ON THE ORDINANCES FOR THE BICYCLES, MOLDED BICYCLES AND BICYCLES OR WHATEVER WE HAVE, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE MILITARY.

YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND YOU GET IDENTIFIED JUST THE LENNOX PUMPS, TOM YOU UP.

I HAVE NO REPORT.

THE NEXT FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE WILL BE ON APRIL 20TH.

ARE THERE ANY GENERAL REPORTS? ARE THERE ANY GENERAL REPORTS THAT I MISSED SOMEBODY SERVING CHRIS, YOUR PEERS BY

[10. Appearance by Citizens]

WE HAVE TWO CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL TODAY.

THE FIRST CITIZEN.

AH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

UH, HELLO, MR. MAYOR TOWN MANAGER, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS DAVID ARNO.

I'M AN ISLAND RESIDENT AND PRESIDENT OF THE BUFORD JASPER BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION SPEAKING YOU TO THAT, TO THAT SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY FROM MY B YARD AND ALEX BROWNS COUNCIL DISTRICT, ONE OF THEM ON THE ISLAND AND FOUND OUT ABOUT THE MEMORANDUM AND RESOLUTION CONCERNING AERIAL MOSQUITO CONTROL.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR AGENDA UNDER ITEM 12 D FROM GREG HUNT, THE BEAVER COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL DIRECTOR.

UM, I REVIEWED THE MEMORANDUM, UH, THE FIRST DRAFT OF IT, AND THE SECOND DRAFT THAT I RECEIVED FROM GREG AND ONE FROM THE TOWN AND WAS VERY CONCERNED WITH WHAT I SAW REGARDING BEEKEEPING AND THE TOWN'S POSITION ON BEEKEEPING ON THE ISLAND, WHERE THE ONLY STAKEHOLDER GROUP MENTIONED IN THAT MEMORANDUM OTHER THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE MOSQUITO CONTROL PESTICIDES ARE INCREDIBLY TOXIC TO HONEY BEES.

SO WHOEVER DRAFTED THAT MEMORANDUM CLEARLY AS AN A BEEKEEPER AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN PULLED UP THE INTERNET.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT AS THE IS DRAFTED, IT'S IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE TOWN'S IMAGE AS A BASTION OF CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS, PARTICULARLY THE FIRST SENTENCE OF

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UM, MY LEGAL COUNSEL TELLS ME THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD, DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

ONLY A PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW, WHEN I HAD A WEST NILE VIRUS PACE WITHIN ABOUT 200 YARDS OF ONE OF MY D ARDS GREG HUNT, AND I WORKED TOGETHER AS A TEAM, WE'VE BEEN A TEAM SINCE PRIOR TO THAT EVENT AND WORKED TOGETHER CLOSELY TO ABATE THE MOSQUITO PROBLEM, PRESERVE THE BEES.

AND WE DID NOT ENTER INTO EVEN A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY FROM D HECK TO ACCOMPLISH THAT END.

SO THANK GOODNESS GREG REACHED OUT TO ME.

I WISH THAT, UH, JOSH GRUBER OR SOMEONE ELSE AT THE TOWN THAT WAS AWARE THAT I WAS A BEEKEEPER HAD ASKED FOR MY INPUT.

UM, IN FACT, THE EFFORT THAT GREG AND I PURSUED BETWEEN THE BEEF OR JASPER BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION AND THE BEAVER COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL WAS THE SUBJECT OF A SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE THAT I WROTE FOR ONE OF THE LEADING BEE JOURNALS AND PRESENTED IT TO THE NATIONAL BEEKEEPING CONFERENCE IN 2019.

SO THE FINAL INACCURACY THAT I REALLY SEE IN THE SUMMARY IS THAT THE AUTHOR OF STATES THAT THE REMEDIATION OF BEEHIVES ARE A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS.

IF IN FACT, THEY'RE EXPOSED TO THESE PESTICIDES, AND I WOULD POINT YOU TO THE BEEKEEPER.

WHO'S A FRIEND OF MINE, MITCH YON, OVER IN DORCHESTER COUNTY, WHOSE BEES WERE KILLED BY SPRAYING FOR ZIKA VIRUS.

AND HE IS STILL IN LITIGATION.

FIVE YEARS LATER, IT RECEIVED A LOT OF NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PRESS.

I DON'T THINK THE TOWN'S POSITION IS THAT THESE DON'T MATTER AND PEOPLE MATTER BECAUSE REALLY BEES DON'T NEED PEOPLE, PEOPLE NEED BEES.

AND SO I'M SURE THE TOWN'S POSITION IN THE RESOLUTION IS STATED MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN THE MEMORANDUM, BUT I WOULD ADVISE YOU THAT THE MEMORANDUM IS FULL OF FACTUAL INACCURACIES, THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS.

THANK YOU, MR. HOAGLAND.

YES, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UH, SKIP HOAGLAND, WINDMILL HARBOR YOU'RE VIOLATION OF FOIL.

MR. MR. LENNOX, IF I HEAR YOU 60 MILLION PLUS OF YOUR OWN MONEY, YOU'LL OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS WITHOUT ACCOUNTING OVERSIGHT OR PROVEN RETURNS AND WORSE THEN DISCOVERED I USED IS YOU DID FOR MY OWN PERSONAL PROFIT BY LAUNDERING COMMITTING TAX EVASION.

AND THEN YOU ASKED ME FOR AN EXPLANATION AND I TOLD YOU THAT IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

IT'S MY SECRET SAUCE.

HOW WOULD YOU REACT? WHY DID YOU ALLOW BILL MILES, THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER TO TELL YOU THIS? WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY DO YOU KEEP HANDING MILLIONS EVERY YEAR TO BILL MILES? WHO TOLD YOU NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, THEN YOU HAVE BACKER LENNOX DRAFTED FRAUDULENT DMO FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT WERE BILL MILES, THE SON LENNOX NAMES.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK SOUTH CAROLINA TREASURY WILL KEEP HANDING THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD MILLIONS OF ISSUE FOR THIS ILLEGAL SECRET USE.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK SOUTH CAROLINA TREASURY, TURK DOR IRS AND FBI WILL ALLOW ZERO OVERSIGHT, ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL USE TAX FUNDS TO PAY BILL MILES, $400,000 SALARY OVER 1 MILLION OF EIGHT TAX MONEY TO CANADA TO DEVELOP AN ILLEGALLY USER APP AND WEBSITE.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK YOUR CORRUPTION? THE PRIVATE CHAMBER WILL BE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE SOUTH CAROLINA AND FEDERAL LAWS THAT INCLUDE FOIL PROCUREMENT, NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS, ISSUING PUBLIC TAX MONEY FOR PRIVATE USE MONEY LAUNDERING, FRAUD TAX EVASION, IRS FIVE OH ONE NONPROFIT LAWS, IRISH UBIT VIOLATIONS, BRIBERY, BID, RIGGING, AND BELMONT AND WHATEVER I'VE MISSED.

MR. LENNOX, MR. AMES, YOU BOTH AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE NOT ONLY VIOLATED YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES TO APPROVE AND SPEND TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS LIKE YOUR OWN MONEY.

IT'S MUCH WORSE.

YOU BOTH KNOWINGLY SCHEMED AS FRAUDULENT DMO CONTRACT WITH CROOKED CHAMBER BIRD FOREMAN LAWYERS, DAVID TICKETS, WALTER NESTER, HIGHLY CORRUPTED, LOCAL TOWN LAWYERS, TERRY FINGER, JOSH GRUBER AND CURTIS COLTRANE AND TOWN MANAGERS, STEVE RILEY AND MARK ORLANDO.

YOU HAVE BOTH ALONG WITH THESE SHYSTER LAWYERS

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THEN HANDCUFFED REMOVED FROM PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE LAWYERS JUST BARK.

MR. AMES, MR. LENNOX, DO YOU DENY MY FACTS? DO ANY OF YOU DENY MY FACTS? ANSWER YOU ARE A DISGRACE AND AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT KNOLOGY HAS TOTALLY REPLACED THE NEED FOR BILL MILES AND AN EIGHT TAX FUNDED DMO.

AND WE WOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF TOURISTS WITHOUT IT.

WE NEED TO PUT THESE FUNDS TOWARDS LOCAL TOURISM, INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, BIKE PATHS, BEACH, MORE POLICE, ET CETERA.

YOU FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'M GOING TO LOOK REAL FORWARD TO YOUR DEPOSITIONS OF BOTH LENNOX AND NAMES OF WHEN THIS ONGOING SECRET COVERT CORRUPTION THAT'S OVER.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU, MR. HALL.

OKAY.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS, NEW BUSINESS.

FIRST READING PROPOSAL

[12.a. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2021-09 Permanent Drainage Easement at the Former Hilton Head Christian Academy Site]

UM, I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, JEFF BUCKALOO ASKING HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

I EITHER MISSED, OR IT WASN'T INCLUDED.

I ASKED JEFF IF HE WOULD SHOW A SITE PLAN THAT PUTS IN CONTEXT WHERE THIS EASEMENT IS AND HOW IT RELATES TO, UH, THE WOODLAND OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN JEFF.

DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? UH, YES, SIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY WELL.

UH, YES, THIS, UH, THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER AS A TEMPORARY, UH, RIGHT AWAY OR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION RIGHT OF ENTRY.

UH, WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU NOW TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT STORM DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN HERE.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

YES.

THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE SITE PLAN.

AND IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR MOVING IN THIS AREA, THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY SITE IS AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

UH, THESE MEANDERING PARALLEL LINES REPRESENT A BERM AND A STORMWATER INFILTRATION BASIN.

UH, THE STORMWATER FROM THE SITE WILL BE COLLECTED AND ALLOWED TO INFILTRATE THE HERE THERE WILL BE AN OUTLET CONTROL STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT, A CONCRETE BOX WITH A NOTCHED WEER, UH, DURING SEVERE STORM EVENTS, UH, THE WATER WILL STAGE UP AND BE METERED OR REGULATED AS IT OUTFLOWS ONTO TOWN PROPERTY.

THIS A BOLD LINE HERE REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY BOUNDARY.

UH, THE PROPERTY HERE IS OWNED BY THE TOWN, UH, THE PROPERTY OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT.

THESE ARE PRIVATE RESIDENCES ALONG INDIAN TRAIL.

THE PIPE OUTLET THROUGH THE BERM STOPS JUST SHORT OF THE TOWN PROPERTY LINE.

AND THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, RIP WRAP, SOME STONE TO, UH, MITIGATE EROSION RIGHT THERE.

THE NEED FOR THE EASEMENT LIES IN THAT THERE WAS AN OLD SMALL DITCH MEANDERING ALONG THE SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WHEN THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD EXISTED TO MAKE THIS FUNCTION BETTER.

THE DEVELOPER AND THE TOWN CONSULTED, UH, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO, AND FOR A DITCH TO BE EXCAVATED, TO LINE UP WITH A TRUNK LINE CHANNEL, WHAT WOULD MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER? EVERYBODY, UH, THE RESIDENTS HERE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE TOWN I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN, ZOOM OUT RATHER ON THIS AREA.

AGAIN, THE BLACK MEANDERING LINE IS THE STORMWATER INFILTRATION BASIN.

UH, THE MAGENTA OUTLINE IS THE OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS IS TOWN PROPERTY.

THE RED LINE REPRESENTS THE NEW DITCH.

UM, IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS A, AN ELEVATION MODEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE GREEN LINES CLEARLY, BUT THIS DENOTES A CUT DITCH AT A LOWER ELEVATION.

AND SO THE PIPE SYSTEM FROM INDIAN TRAIL EMPTIES OUT TO THIS POINT, UH, THE OLD SMALL CHANNEL KIND OF MANNERED IS WAY DOWN TO A POINT OF CONFLUENCE.

UH, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO BY VIA THIS EASEMENT IS ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS CONTRACTOR TO COME ON TOWN, LAND EXCAVATE, A DITCH THAT CONNECTS THEIR OUTFALL PIPE TO THIS MAJOR TRUNK LINE CHANNEL.

UM, I CAN ZOOM OUT EVEN FURTHER TO GIVE EVERYONE CONTEXT OF WHERE WE ARE, UH, WHERE THE HAND IS HOVERING NOW WAS THE VICINITY.

UH, I WAS JUST ZOOMED IN ON, UH, THE MAGENTA IS THE OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE RED STAR APPEARS THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY SITE.

THE AREA BOUND IN RED IS ALL

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THIS IS TOWN LAND, THE BLUE CYAN, UH, LINE YOU SEE HERE IS THE TRUNK LINE, MAJOR DRAINAGE, UH, CONVEYANCE SYSTEM.

AND IT GOES DOWN THROUGH SOME FORESTED, WETLANDS AND WOODS INTO A LARGE POND HERE.

UH, THEN OUT INTO ANOTHER, CONTINUING THE CHANNEL BACK OUT ALONGSIDE ISLAND DRIVE, IT GOES DOWN TO MATTHEW'S DRIVE UNDER MARSHLAND, ULTIMATELY OUT TO THE HEADWATERS OF BROAD CREEK ACROSS FROM OAK GROVE BAPTIST.

AND SO THAT IS THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL ON JEFF.

THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

UM, THE, THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OLD WOODLANDS RESIDENTS IS THAT THE OUTFALL CA UM, VOLUME AND THE RATE OF DISCHARGE WILL NOT BE ANY GREATER THAN WHAT WAS, UH, FREE DEVELOPMENT OR, UH, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT STATEMENT, SIR, UH, PER THE LMO, UH, WE MADE SURE THE SITE COMPLIES WITH LMO AND PEAK DISCHARGE FROM POST-DEVELOPMENT CANNOT EXCEED THAT OF REDEVELOPMENT.

AND ALSO THAT THE RETENTION AREA HAS A BERM SEPARATING IT FROM THE OLD WOODLANDS PROPERTY.

SO THAT UNDER AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION, MORE THAN A 20 FEET, 25 YEAR FLOOD OLD WOODLANDS WOULD NOT BE SUFFERING OVERFLOW ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, ALL THE STORMWATER'S BEING MANAGED THROUGH THOSE BASINS AND AT THE POINT OF THIS CHARGE WHERE I JUST SHOWED YOU THE PIPE, THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OVERFLOW SPILLWAY, THOSE STORMS EXCEEDING THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED AND OVERFLOW INTO THE WOODS ON TOWN PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE EXTRA TIME TO DO IT.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER ALEX, WHAT ELSE? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, JEFF FOR THAT REPORT, UM, I KNOW FIRSTHAND FROM A LOT OF, UH, CONTACT FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA, THAT THERE ARE GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE, UM, BEST HE CAN TO, UH, TO SATISFY THOSE.

I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IF, IF JEFF CAN HELP ME THE EXISTING, UH, DITCH THAT, UH, IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NEW, UH, ACCESS, UM, ARE THERE PLANS TO, UH, COVER THAT, UH, IMPROVE THAT IN ANY WAY, JEFF? UM, NO.

MR. BROWN, THE, THE NEW DITCH IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 50 FEET FURTHER AWAY FROM THE LAST RESIDENCE ON INDIAN TRAIL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT CONTEXT THAT IS FURTHER AWAY, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN OPEN, UH, BITCH IT'LL BE STABILIZED VIA GRASS HYDROSEEDING ET CETERA, BUT, UM, BUT THE, THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT TO INSTALL ANY PIPE OR, OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON OUR PROPERTY.

SO THE, THE EXISTING DITCH THAT IS THERE, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT? IS THAT JUST GOING TO STAY LIKE IT IS? YES, SIR.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO DISCONNECT IT SO THAT THE RUNOFF WILL GO TO THE NEW BRIDGE.

UM, LIKE I SAY, IT'S KIND OF A DEPRESSED AREA WITH TREES ALONG IT.

WE WERE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS IS WE WEREN'T GOING TO FILL IT IN OR HAVE THE DEVELOPER FILTER AND THE EXISTING DITCHES ON THE TOWNHOMES PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

I, 100%.

UM, AND, UM, BY NO MEANS, AM I AN ENGINEER, SO I'M NOT TRYING TO STEP IN THAT REALM.

OKAY.

BUT I DO HAVE THE QUESTION, UM, IF THERE WILL BE ANY RUNOFF FROM OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL CONNECTION THAT MAY OVERFLOW INTO THAT DITCH AND WITHOUT IT HAVING A OUTSTREAM, WILL THAT CAUSE ADDITIONAL ISSUES? NO, SIR.

NO, WE DON'T.

WE DON'T SEE THAT AT ALL.

INDIAN TRAIL IS A COUNTY OWNED COUNTY MAINTAINED RIGHT AWAY.

UH, THEY HAVE SOME ROADSIDE DITCHES IN FRONT OF THOSE RESIDENTS AT THE END THAT ULTIMATELY DRAIN OUT INTO THIS BIG TRUNK LINE CHANNEL WE HAVE.

UM, BUT NO, SIR, ALL OF THIS IS GOING DOWNHILL ONTO THE, UH, THE TOWNS KIND OF FORESTED WETLAND PROPERTY WITH THE LARGE FRONT CLIENT CHANNEL IN A TRUNK LAND CHANNEL THAT GOES OUT TO BROAD CREEK WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO KEEP THAT MAINTAINED? UH, IT IS THE TOWNS OF WHERE IT LIES ON TOWN PROPERTY.

IT CUTS ACROSS SOME OTHER PROPERTIES AND, UM, AND RIGHTS OF WAY IT GETS OUT INTO THE DOD RIGHT AWAY AT SOME POINT.

SO FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT, JEFF, AND I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE AND, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT BEING THE BEST THAT WE COULD EVER DO IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT, UH, THAT TRUNK HAS CLEARED.

UM, WHERE DO YOU THINK WE STAND AT

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I BELIEVE THERE ARE A FEW PARCELS ON ISLAND DRIVE WHERE WE DO NOT ENJOY AN EASEMENT WHERE WE CAN GET IN THERE AND MAINTAIN IT, UH, GOES BACK BEHIND THE, THE NEW HABITAT FOR HUMANITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHERE IT'S ON TOWN PROPERTY.

AND I KNOW ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN DOWN OUT TOWARDS MATTHEWS DRIVE, WE HAVE RIGHTS TO, TO ACCESS AND MAINTAIN THAT.

UH, WE'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THOSE LONG ISLAND DRAFTS.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, I JUST POSED THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE, UH, AGAIN, I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE GOING IN TERMS OF SHOWING, UM, THAT THE FLOW IS PROPER IN THE PROXIMITY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT I DO WANT TO BE AWARE AND CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR FROM NOW, I WON'T BE GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM FOLKS ON MARSHLAND ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING THE BACKUP.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE, UH, THOSE EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN PROPER DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT AN ISLAND, I THINK IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, UH, GET BACK TO US ON THAT, JEFF, THAT WOULD, UH, MAKE ME MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING.

YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER? OR SHOULD WE TAKE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. BROWN SUPPORT, MR. HARKINS.

YES, YES, YES.

MR. LINUX.

YES.

STANFORD.

YES.

YES.

ITEM 12 BEING

[12.b. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2020-26 – Historic Neighborhoods Preservation Overlay District LMO Amendments]

I'LL SECOND THAT, OKAY.

DISCUSSION MR. BROWN.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THE, AT THE MOMENT MISDEMEANOR.

OKAY.

THIS IS SICKNESS MS. AMES.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I GOT ONE EMAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT SAYING, UH, WHERE IS THIS OVERLAY? AND I ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

WELL, THE OVERLAY IS A GEOGRAPHIC AND GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATION, AND WE'RE NO LONGER DOING IT GEOGRAPHICALLY.

WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH OWNERSHIP.

SO I'M WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THE REFERENCE TO OVERLAY IS A MISNOMER AT THIS POINT.

OTHER THAN THAT, NO, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OR THIS IS STANFORD.

THANK YOU.

UM, SERVING ON THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, I CAN REPORT THAT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY EVALUATED, MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED, AND THOSE MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, I THINK THAT THIS WAS A WORTHY PROJECT.

MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

IS DANNY? UM, WELL FIRST I THINK THAT DAVID'S QUESTION IS, UM, INTERESTING AND PERHAPS, UM, CORRECT THAT OVERLAY OUGHT TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE TITLE.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT SECONDLY, I JUST WANT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHERE IT SAYS THAT, UH, WE ARE REMOVING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO HER HOME OCCUPATION.

I GET THAT THE CHANGE, THE CALCULATION OF DENSITY TO ROUND UP.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? I GUESS WE'RE NOT ROUNDING UP DENSITY ANYMORE.

UM, IT'S STILL ROUNDING DOWN, UM, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND IN TERMS OF THE OVERLAY, UM, THIS IS FOCUSED MORE ON THE OWNERSHIP AND THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY, AND THOSE ARE FOUR AREAS WITHIN THE NAME, HISTORIC DISTRICTS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, BUT NOT THE OVERLAND SOUTH.

SO WE'RE NOT DOING THE OVERLAY.

WE'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TWO APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS, WHICH ARE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? THOSE COULD BE ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND THAT CORRECT? NOT JUST NECESSARILY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NO, THIS IS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THEN YOUR, YOUR HAVE SPECIFIC, UM, OWNERSHIP.

SO IF YOU OWN YOUR PROPERTY SINCE

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UM, FAMILY HAS ITS SPECIFIC DEFINITION TO INCLUDE YOUR SPOUSE, YOUR BIOLOGICAL, OR, UM, ADOPTED CHILDREN AND EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS.

SO THIS IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THEIR PROPERTY IN THE FAMILY SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE BRIDGE.

SO THOSE TWO DEFINITIONS ARE WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

BUT THAT, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION IN ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS.

I NEVER HEARD, UM, DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO CREATING A NEW, UM, FE VESTED, RIGHT.

UM, WITH THESE, UM, APPROVALS, I GUESS RIGHT HERE ON PAGE TWO, DID I MISS SOMETHING? OKAY.

UH, NO, MA'AM YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING, BUT I THINK, UM, BETTER TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE TERRY LEWIS, UM, SHE'S THE ELMO OFFICIAL, SO SHE KNOWS HOW TO EXPLAIN VESTED RIGHTS BETTER THAN I COULD.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THEY GOT, UM, HOW THAT GOT INTO THIS DOCUMENT, UM, WITHOUT PRIOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVALS.

YES.

MA'AM.

I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND THEN, UM, GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY.

THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I STILL HAVE, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE, I'M BETTER BEFORE, YOU KNOW, EACH TIME, EACH TIME THERE'S A CHANGE WITH SETBACKS AND BUFFERS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OFFICIAL, AT HER DISCRETION OR HIS DISCRETION TO REDUCE IT EVEN FURTHER.

AND SO IN THE END, ONCE YOU, UM, IF ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS CAME INTO PLAY, UM, I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UM, WHAT WE'D BE LEFT WITH.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE THAT HAS HAPPENED AND WE'RE LEFT WITH, UM, PROPERTY LINES THAT ARE FAR TOO CLOSE, DANGEROUSLY, CLOSE, UM, OUT OF CHARACTER IN THOSE SETBACKS.

UM, YES, MA'AM.

I WANT TO SCREAM, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND NOT WANTING IT TO CLOSE, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, THERE WOULD BE THE MINIMUM BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, OFF OF A MINOR ARTERIAL, UM, YOU AT THE MINIMUM WITH THE LAST CLAN IN REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, UM, FOR ALL OTHER STREETS, YOUR BUFFER WOULD BE 10 FEET.

AND, UM, FOR AN ACCESS EASEMENT, IT WOULD BE THAT VARIES.

UM, IT WOULD BE 10 FEET.

SO THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A BUFFER.

THERE WOULD BE A SETBACK, BUT IT WOULD BE AT THE MINIMUM.

SO, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE AND I SAW JENNIFER CAME ON, MAYBE I'M ASKING THE QUESTION THE WRONG WAY.

UM, I'LL JUST TRY TO RESTATE IT.

UM, SO WITH THOSE MINIMUMS THAT YOU, THAT YOU POINTED OUT SHARIECE, IS THERE STILL AN OPPORTUNITY THOUGH FOR A FURTHER REDUCTION BY, UH, THE OFFICIALS DETERMINATION? NO, MA'AM THE B DEDUCTION WOULD BE THE LESSER OF YOUR BUFFERS.

THERE IS NO FURTHER REDUCTION FURTHER THAN THAT IN SETBACKS.

YES.

SO WITHIN, SO WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE, UM, TIMES WHEN A PER THE REDUCTION IN SETBACKS AND BUFFERS CAN BE GRANTED, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THAT THAT IS NOT, OR NO FURTHER THAT, THAT, OR BUFFER.

WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT IN THE DOCUMENT.

I'M SORRY.

WE CONFER, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT IT WOULDN'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN THE MINIMUM SETBACK AND I'LL JUMP IN SHARIECE IS CORRECT.

AND TERRY'S VERIFIED THAT THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF REDUCTION IS WHAT'S OUTLINED IN THE LMO AMENDMENTS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

SO THERE'S NO REQUEST OR

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I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS CLEARLY STATED IN THE ORDINANCE.

UM, SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO THOSE ARE, UM, AND SO LET'S SEE.

UM, OKAY.

AND I, OKAY.

SO WITH THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE MY TWO BIG CONCERNS WHERE THE IDEA OF A NEW LEA CREATED VESTED, RIGHT.

UM, CAME FROM AND HOW THEY GOT INTO THE ORDINANCE AND BEING CLEAR THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, UM, AND BUFFER REDUCTIONS.

UM, THIS DOES HAVE FROM CLASSES ON, UH, NEIGHBORS AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT A MAP TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD EXTEND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AND SO THAT ALSO TO ME, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THOUGH.

WE KNOW, UM, ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.

I KNOW THAT IT WENT OUT THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE, UM, AS A NOTICE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS, UM, HAD THEIR VOICES HEARD AND THAT THERE ARE NO LONG-TERM, UM, CHALLENGES FOR OTHER PEOPLE, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS.

SO, SO EVERYONE IS WORKING ON THE SAME WITH, ON THE SAME PAGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND JENNIFER, YOU TOO.

THANK YOU BOTH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'LL JUST ADD THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS, UM, WAS WHEN IT WAS A MUCH BROADER THAT OF AMENDMENTS THAT INCLUDED, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE DENSITY AND SOME HOME OCCUPATION, AND A LOT OF, UM, IMPACTS BEYOND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH FAMILY AND COMPOUND A FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK BASED ON THIS REDUCED SET OF AMENDMENTS.

IT'S ALL BEEN VERY POSITIVE FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING PATIENTLY IN THE WINGS FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE READY TO ESTABLISH THIS ON THEIR PROPERTY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

DAVID, MR. HARKINS IS WILLING TO AMEND THE MOTION.

UH, I WOULD BE WILLING TO A SECOND ACT.

AND THE AMENDED MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER IS, UH, WHAT, UH, MS. BECKER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO NO ADDITIONAL, UH, DISCUSSION OR, OR, UH, UH, UH, DECREASING SETBACKS AND BUFFERS.

AND I GUESS I'D HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION OF JENNIFER, WOULD THAT BE A HARDSHIP OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LIVE WITH A HARDSHIP TO NOT ALLOW REDUCTIONS BEYOND? YEAH, YEAH, ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY IS A, A SIX SETBACK AND BUFFER, UH, WITH SELVES TO INTERPRET THAT AND DECREASE THEM FURTHER.

SO I'M, I, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, IS THERE A DOWNSIDE TO AMENDING THE MOTION TO FIX THAT? WHO'S THE MAYOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. HANUS REQUEST TO MODIFY YOUR MOTION BEFORE I WOULD CONSIDER DOING THAT, I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION AND, UH, SWINGING THE QUESTION TO THE TOWN MANAGER, IF HE COULD GIVE US SOME ADVICE.

SURE.

I CAN AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO ASSESS THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

UM, MAY GRANT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE FOR SETBACKS AND BUFFERS BASED UPON SPECIFIC PARTICULAR HARDSHIPS, UM, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO WHILE WE MAY WRITE IN THE CODE, NO, NO LESS THAN 10 FEET, THERE COULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHATEVER THE ISSUE, WE KNOW WHAT THEY MAY BE, THAT THAT MAY ALLOW THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE.

SO IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ACCURATE, WHILE STAFF WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE 10 FOOT MINIMUM, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AS A QUAD QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD HAS

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REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE TRY TO WRITE IN THE ORDINANCE, JUST THROUGH A DUE PROCESS FROM A DUE PROCESS STANDPOINT, THERE'S A THEORY IT'S MEETING ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA THOUGH, CORRECT? YES.

MA'AM I'M THINKING, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO BUILD DO NOW? WELL, IF YEAH, BILL IS COMFORTABLE AMENDING THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THAT, THEN I WOULD, SECOND, YOU MENTIONED I'M COMFORTABLE NOW BASED ON INFORMATION FOR THE ACCOUNT MANAGER TO MODIFY.

SO STATED DAVID I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, ANY MORE DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IT'S BRANDON.

YES.

IF STAFF COULD JUST HELP ME.

UM, YEAH.

UH, IS IT, IS IT COMMON WHEN WE ARE MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE LMO THAT WE, UH, ADD LANGUAGE THAT MAY STRIP, UH, THE OFFICIAL FROM POWER? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT MYSELF.

IF SOMEONE TERRI OR, UM, TELL MANAGER OR SOMEONE ELSE I CAN'T ANSWER IF THAT'S COMMON OR NOT.

WELL, I COULD ADD MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHILE I CAN'T SPEAK TO PAST PRACTICE HERE, MANY CODES, MANY, MANY DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE WRITTEN AS ABSOLUTES THAT DO NOT ALLOW THE ADMINISTRATOR TO WAIVE PARTICULAR SECTIONS OR TO, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE BASED UPON THEIR INTERPRETATION.

YOU HAVE ABSOLUTES, YOU HAVE 10 FEET, AND IF YOU NEED LESS THAN 10 FEET, YOU HAVE THE DUE PROCESS THROUGH A VARIANCE APPLICATION.

AND SO COUNCILOR BROWN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT MANY CODES ARE WRITTEN WITH VERY SPECIFIC ABSOLUTES, 35 FOOT HEIGHT, 20 FOOT BUFFERS, 10 FOOT SETBACKS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU HAVE.

IT'S, IT'S SOME, A LOT OF TIMES VERY CLEAR AND VERY ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE, THE CODE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT, I GUESS MY QUESTION NOW IS, IS THE VERBIAGE IN THAT CODE THAT IS GIVING THE OFFICIAL, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD STAFF SAYING WAS NOT, SO I'LL DEFER TO JENNIFER ON THAT.

WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THIS WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE AND TERRY WA THE LMO OFFICIAL WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE IT BEYOND THIS ABSOLUTE, THAT WAS SET IN THESE AMENDMENTS.

BUT AS, UM, MARK POINTED OUT THAT IT COULD STILL GO TO BZA, BUT THE OFFICIAL THEMSELVES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REDUCE IT BEYOND WHAT'S OUTLINED IN THESE AMENDMENTS.

OKAY.

SO WOULD THAT BE AND SAID, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY WE HAVE TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION IF IT'S ALREADY AN ABSOLUTE THERE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT CLEAR.

I HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND SECONDLY, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COULD VOTE ON A, UM, ON THIS WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THEY, UM, VESTED.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS A VERY, VERY, UM, POWERFUL, UM, RIGHT.

WAS HOW IT GOT INSERTED OR FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

MR. MAYOR, I JUST POSED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF WE, UH, GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WE NORMALLY GO WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING LMO AMENDMENTS, I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH SUPPORTING THE AMENDED MOTION.

OKAY, MR. GLENN, THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK THE IDEA OF THE AMENDMENT MAKES SENSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND WHERE THAT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO GO.

I'M WONDERING IF THE BETTER TO POSTPONE THIS MATTER, HAVE IT COME BACK WITH CLARITY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE I, AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, I'D LIKE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, REFERRED, PASS THE TOWN MANAGER FOR GUIDANCE, WE COULD GO ONE OF TWO DIRECTIONS.

THE FIRST, THE FIRST SOLUTION COULD BE ADOPTED AS FIRST READING, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND AND FINAL READING WITHOUT A MATERIAL CHANGE IN THE CODE.

UM, BUT GIVE US CLEAR GUIDANCE TONIGHT THAT YOU WANT THE LANGUAGE TO BE A LOT MORE

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UM, THE, THE INTENT OF THE CODE ISN'T CHANGING, RIGHT? THE MATERIAL, THE CHAIN, THE CODE ISN'T CHANGING MATERIALLY.

SO WE COULD ADOPT IT BY FIRST READING TONIGHT, KEEP MOVING, MAKE THE CHANGE COMBINED WITH SOME REAL CLEAR LANGUAGE TO, TO, UH, SATISFY THAT THE COUNCIL COMMENTS AND BRING IT BACK FOR A SECOND AND FINAL.

SO, UH, MR. GIVEN THAT EXPLANATION, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD TO MY, UH, MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION AND, UH, COME BACK WITH FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

A SECOND READING COUNSEL.

OKAY.

WAS EXCELLENT.

AND I'LL SECOND THAT, AND GLENN, COULD, COULD YOU LEADING THE WORK ON REWORDING IT? SURE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CALL THE MOTION.

MOTION THREE KOHL'S OKAY.

12 C CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION.

WE DON'T CALL THEM.

YOU'RE GOING TO PASS FIRST READING.

OKAY, COOL.

OLD MR. BROWN SUPPORT.

MR. HART, MR. AINS.

YES.

WHILE I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THAT LANGUAGE, I'M STILL HERE.

OKAY.

YES.

SO IT WAS INSERTED.

SO IT ALSO ASKS THAT THAT INFORMATION BE SHARED WITH US, UM, BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND IS, UM, NEEDS TO, WE ALL NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHERE IT CAME FROM.

SO, SO MY VOTE, MY VOTE IS NO.

OKAY.

MR. LENNOX.

YES.

MR. STANFORD.

YES.

YES, YES.

MISS SAYINGS.

YEAH.

I THINK QUENTIN IS, BECKER'S SAYING IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.

SO PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE GET AN ANSWER ON THAT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

MRS. BECKER PROPOSING,

[12.c. Consideration of a Resolution – Broad Creek PSD Proposed Aquifer Storage and Recovery Facility]

I'LL SECOND.

THE DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, DAVID.

YES.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THIS POINTS TO A LARGER ISSUE, UH, THAN JUST, UH, ONE PARTICULAR SMALL SITE.

AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH A LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE STRATEGY FOR WATER POTABLE WATER ON THE ISLAND.

AND I THINK MAYBE MAYOR, IF I COULD SUGGEST, UH, PERHAPS WE OUGHT TO INVITE THE PSDS TO COME AT SOME FUTURE MEETING AND TELL COUNCIL WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND WHETHER THERE'S A STRATEGY OF COLLABORATION OR SEPARATION.

UM, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE ISLAND.

THAT COUNCIL OUGHT TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE PLANS ARE.

THANK YOU.

GIVEN WE HAD THEM TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO WAS JOIN ME NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER.

UH, AND, UH, DAVID CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF I'M INTERPRETING WHAT DAVID IS SAYING, UH, TO, UH, SUGGEST A DISCUSSION, PERHAPS EVEN A WHITE PAPER FROM THE PSD IN TERMS OF, UH, CAPACITY GIVEN, USING DEMAND AND ITS RELATIONSHIP TO POPULATION RESIDENTIAL, GIVEN ITS RELATIONSHIP TO VISITOR TRAFFIC, UH, WHICH IS SEASONAL, UH, WHAT'S THE SUM TOTAL IMPACT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR WATER SYSTEM ON THE ISLAND, UH, LEADING TO THE QUESTIONS IS THERE, IS THERE SOME POINT WHERE, UH, WE ASKED THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS ENOUGH ENOUGH THROUGH THE MAYOR? I'D LIKE TO ASK DAVID OF CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

YES.

PERHAPS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF RESILIENCE AND RESILIENCY ON THE ISLAND IS OUR ABILITY TO DRINK WATER.

SO I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND THE LOGICAL PEOPLE TO ASK THAT QUESTION ARE THE THREE PSDS.

OKAY.

IF EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE, WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

BUT WE DID

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WE DID DID.

OKAY.

WHAT POINT ON THE AGENDA AGAIN? OKAY.

LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE.

WE HAVE TO VOTE BOTH.

MR. BROWN CAN GIVE HIM A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

ARE YOU CALLING THE ROLL NOW? SUPPORT MR. HARKINS.

YES.

MR. I'M SORRY.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER THOUGHT.

I APOLOGIZE IF THIS RECHARGE AREA BECOMES A SALINE IN THE FUTURE, ARE WE SELLING OR LEASING THIS? ARE WE RETAINING SOME SORT OF FUTURE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY I'VE FORGOTTEN WHETHER OR NOT IT'S STATED THAT MR. AMES, I CAN ANSWER THAT AND HOLD UP SOME FOR THE RECORD.