Apr 06, 2021 Hilton Head Island Town Council

[1. Call to Order]

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ERIC MISSION. >> YES SIR WE ARE. THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKATIE GIVEN BY A FRIEND BEFORE THEY ARREST ME. THEY YOUNG GIVES US OCCASION BUT I COULD THANK HIM TO US THE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO WISH HIM A RESTFUL RETIREMENT IN THE COMING MONTHS.

YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND A GREAT LEADER FOR I REALLY TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

>> SPEAKER HASTERT, SPEAKER THEY THEY GO. THEY GO.

OKAY, LET'S PRAY. YET AGAIN. LORD, THIS COMMUNITY FINDS ITSELF IN A SEASON OF RECOVERY AND RENEWAL. OUR CHALLENGES ARE NOT THE CLEARING OF DEBRIS OR PHYSICAL REBUILDING BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY JUST REAL RELATIONSHIPS COMMUNITY IDENTITY HAVE ALL BEEN VICTIMS OF THE STORM SURGE OF THIS VIRUS AND YET THIS IS A TIME OF OPPORTUNITY AND THANKSGIVING REMIND US THAT WE LIVE IN A PLACE OF ABUNDANT PRODUCTIVITY. THE BEAUTY OF THE AZALEAS, THE DOGWOOD TREES, CRYSTAL BLUE SKIES WE'RE REMINDED I OF OUR BLESSINGS AND REMINDED THAT BLESSING IS ALWAYS INTENDED TO OVERFLOW THOSE MISFORTUNES ARE MORE NARROW WHOSE VOICES ARE WEAKER AND EASILY MUFFLED IN THE DIN OF PROGRESS AND EXPEDIENCY. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE. WE THANK YOU FOR THESE WHO SERVE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OFTEN IS A THANKLESS JOB. YOU HAVE THEM STRENGTH OF CONVICTION HEARTS THAT ACKNOWLEDGE OUR COMMON HUMANITY AND WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL WHO LIVE OR VISIT THIS GOODLY PLACE AND FOR THAT FINAL RECOVERY THAT IS FOUND IN YOU, WE GIVE YOU THANKS. IN AND NOW BLESS YOU.

WE APPRECIATE BOTH YOUR AGENDA. SO. SECOND AND WAS A PLEASE RAISE

[5. Approval of the Agenda]

[6. Approval of the Minutes]

[7. Report of the Town Manager]

>> GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. COUPLE PRETTY EXCITING ITEMS. OUR VERY OWN SHERRY MANDRAKE IS SOUTH CAROLINA HAZARD MITIGATION MITIGATION EXCUSE ME ASSOCIATION'S FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR OF THE YEAR. AND SO CONGRATULATIONS, SHERRY, IF YOU'RE WATCHING AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU VERY MUCH.

HE WAS RECOGNIZED BY HER PEERS FOR OUTSTANDING DEDICATION FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT LOCALLY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE IN MY SHORT TIME HERE I'VE HEARD JOSH TELL ME A BUNCH OF TIMES AS WELL AS OTHERS SHE IS THE GO TO PERSON IN THE ENTIRE STATE AND BEYOND.

SO WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE HER FOR THE 20TH YEAR IN A ROW. WE'RE ALSO NAMED THE THREE THE USA BY THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION. SO CONGRATS AGAIN THAT COMES WITH YOU KNOW, WITH WITH A PLAN TO PLACE A TWO DOLLAR PER CAPITA FOR HER DAY OBSERVANCE PROCLAMATION. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY FOR THAT.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO JUST AS QUICK F Y I'S THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND COMMUNITY PLANNING TEAM K.S. K ALONG WITH HDR THERE ON BOARD AND WORKING ON THE U.S. 278 GATEWAY PROJECT AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN INTERNAL KICKOFF ON THURSDAY AND A THANK YOU TO SEAN FOR TAKING LEADING WITH THAT PROJECT AND WORKING HARD TO GET THIS PROJECT WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS MARIN COUNTY. I DIDN'T WANT TO GO WITHOUT A MEETING PASSING US WITHOUT YOU HEARING THAT CHAOS CASE ON BOARD.

SEAN'S IN THE LEAD ROLE AND WE HAVE A BIG KICKOFF MEETING THIS THURSDAY.

A LOT OF WORK IS BEING CONDUCTED AS WELL BEFORE THE THURSDAY MEETING.

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SO ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW. SO STAY TUNED ON THAT. THANK YOU.

[8. Reports from the Members of Council]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WAS UNABLE OR I MET SOME MEDICAL READINGS NOT TO ATTEND THE LAST MEETING BUT MR. LENNOX GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO SERVE IN MY STEAD AND I ASKED HIM TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A KEY ITEM ON THAT AGENDA WITH CRYING FROM REGULATORS COMMENTS AS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR RELATIVE TO THE HOMELESS.

MR. LENNOX, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS MUTED. WE WERE VETOED BY A POTENTIAL LEASE AND A COUPLE OF SITES FOR THE SANDALWOOD FOOD PANTRY AND A RECOMMENDATION WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL. HE ALSO REVIEWED THE C.D. B G ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM TWENTY TWENTY ONE ACTION PLAN LIKEWISE THAT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL AND IN THE SHADOW OF THE PANDEMIC. GIVEN ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT 2020 WAS, WE HEARD FROM CHIEF BRAD TETLOCK AS HE PRESENTED THE 2020 CALENDAR YEAR AND REPORT AND IT WAS A MAGNIFICENT REPORT GIVEN THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD IN 2020. ADD ON I WOULD SAY PERSONALLY THAT WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A STAFF AS CAPABLE AND AS WELL LED AS THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND FIRE RESCUE. AND LASTLY AS BILL MENTIONED WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON HOMELESS AND INSECURE INDIVIDUALS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND BLUFFTON COUNTY.

THE UPDATE WAS LED BY A FRIEND LATER WHO HAS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR AND HIS CASE WORKER BEN BOSWELL. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION AND I WILL ADD I WAS QUICK TO SAY THIS DISCUSSION WILL BE ONGOING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. FRED SAID WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 100 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH ABOUT 350 HOUSEHOLDS BEING HOUSING INSECURE.

THAT MEANS THEY MAY HAVE SHELTER BUT THE SHELTER IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

YOU WENT ON TO SAY SPECIFIC TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND ZIP CODES. TWENTY EIGHT AND TWENTY SIX THERE ARE ABOUT 85 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMELESS. BUT HE WAS QUICK TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THEY SAMPLE HE FEELS THE NUMBERS ARE LOW AND HE THINKS THEY THEY COULD BE LOW BY A MAGNITUDE OF TEN FOLD. SO IF THERE ARE EIGHTY FIVE INDIVIDUALS ON HILTON HEAD THAT ARE HOMELESS THAT NUMBER COULD BE AS HIGH AS EIGHT OR NINE HUNDRED. HE WENT ON TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS CHALLENGE AND HE SAYS A POSITIVE STEP IN THE ADDRESSING THE ADDRESSING OF HOMELESSNESS MAY LIE IN OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES COLLECTIVELY FUNDING A FULL TIME POSITION FOR HOMELESS SERVICE COORDINATOR, HE SAID. KEY TO GETTING MOVEMENT ON THE ISSUE OF HOMELESS IS ESTABLISHING TRUST AND THAT HAS BEEN THEIR BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND HE THINKS THAT A FULL TIME COORDINATOR WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING ESTABLISH THAT TRUST . HE CONCLUDED BY SAYING THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE WAS IMPRESSED WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF JUST

HOW BIG A CHALLENGE IT REALLY IS. >> BELOW WAS A PRESENTATION THAT I THINK ALL OF US WERE PUT IN THE BACK OF OUR CHAIRS AFTER WHAT WAS IMPORTANT.

MAYOR, THAT YOU COULD ASK FOR PUBLIC PLANNING. YES, OK.

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I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN EXPERIENCED AND WITNESSED NEAR MISSES ON THE BIKE PATHS.

IT IS UNDER SKAKEL THAT WE ARE HAVING CARAVANS OF BIKERS UP AND DOWN THE BIKE PATHS NOW.

THE REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE THOUGH IS THAT THOSE HAVE BECOME MULTI-MODAL.

WE HAVE ELECTRIC BIKES, WE HAVE ROLLER AND MULTIPLE MOTORIZED SKATE SKATEBOARDS.

IT'S IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT I THINK THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO TAKE A MUCH MORE PROACTIVE POSITION DEALING WITH THE BIKE ADVICE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD THE RENTAL BIKE AGENCIES ,THE PD AND SO ON. I JUST A CONSTITUENT CALL ME TODAY AND SAID THAT HE'S A RUNNER AND HE NEARLY GETS RUN OVER BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRIC BIKES.

I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF NEEDS TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND COMING UP WITH AN APPROACH TO SOLVING THE CHALLENGES. OF OF THE BYPASS IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE GOLF CARTS MOVING UP AND DOWN. POPE AVENUE NOW THERE'S SOMEWHAT UNDISCIPLINED AND IT REALLY BEGINS TO BEG THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE OUGHT TO BE RESTRAINED BEING POPE AVENUE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN THEIR OWN LANE ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD. THAT'S MY GENERAL REPORT. PUBLIC PLANNING MET ON MARCH 25TH TO REVIEW AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE THE PROPOSED COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS.

THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND RENTAL WORKFORCE HOUSING AGREEMENTS AND THEY WILL BE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY. AND THERE IS ALSO A WORKFORCE HOUSING WORKSHOP ON APRIL 28 AT 10 A.M.. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> DAVID, IF YOU COULD TAKE OVER. WORKING WITH AND WITH THE STAFF ON THE ORDINANCES FOR THE BASIC GOALS AND MOTORBIKE CYCLES, BICYCLE ZONE WHATEVER WE HAVE AND APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE MILITARY. YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND YOU GET IDENTIFIED.

I MISS THAT MR. LENNOX. TOM, YOUR MAYOR. >> I HAVE NO REPORT.

THE NEXT FINANCE ADMINISTRATOR COMMITTEE WILL BE ON APRIL 20TH .

THANK YOU. THEY'RE READY. ARE THERE ANY GENERAL WAS THERE ANY GENERAL REPORTS THAT I MISSED SOMEBODY? OK.

[10. Appearance by Citizens]

MR. ARNOLD MR. ARNOLD. THERE WE GO. OK, HELLO, MR. MAYOR.

NOW MANAGER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DAVID OUR NO. I'M AN ISLAND RESIDENT AND PRESIDENT OF THE BEAUFORT JASPER BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION. PICKING THAT SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY FROM MY BEE YARD AND ALEX BROWN'S COUNCIL DISTRICT, ONE OF THEM ON THE ISLAND AND FOUND OUT ABOUT THE MEMORANDUM AND RESOLUTION CONCERNING AERIAL MOSQUITO CONTROL THAT'S GONNA BE ON YOUR AGENDA. UNDER ITEM 12 D FROM GREG HUNT THE B FOR COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL DIRECTOR I REVIEWED THE MEMORANDUM THE FIRST DRAFT OF IT AND THE SECOND DRAFT THAT I RECEIVED FROM GREG AND ONE FROM THE TOWN AND WAS VERY CONCERNED WITH WHAT I SAW REGARDING BEEKEEPING IN THE TOWN'S POSITION ON BEEKEEPING ON THE ISLAND WHERE THE ONLY STAKEHOLDER GROUP MENTIONED IN THAT MEMORANDUM OTHER THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THAT IS BECAUSE MOSQUITO CONTROL PESTICIDES ARE INCREDIBLY TOXIC TO HONEYBEES.

SO WHOEVER DRAFTED THAT MEMORANDUM CLEARLY ISN'T A BEEKEEPER AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF THE INTERNET. I BELIEVE THAT AS THE MEMORANDUM IS DRAFTED IT'S IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE TOWN'S IMAGE AS A BASTION OF CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS, PARTICULARLY THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE SUMMARY THAT STATES THE BENEFIT OF PROTECTING THE PUBLIC FROM MOSQUITO BORNE

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GREG AND I WORKED TOGETHER AS A TEAM. WE'VE BEEN A TEAM SINCE PRIOR TO THAT EVENT AND WORKED TOGETHER CLOSELY TO ABATE THE MOSQUITO PROBLEM, PRESERVE THE BEES AND WE DID NOT ENTER INTO EVEN A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY FROM DEAC TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

SO THANK GOODNESS GREG REACHED OUT TO ME AND I WISH THAT JOSH GRUBER OR SOMEONE ELSE AT THE TOWN THAT WAS AWARE THAT I WAS A BEEKEEPER HAD ASKED FOR MY INPUT.

IN FACT, THE EFFORT THAT GREG AND I PURSUED BETWEEN THE BEE FOR JASPER BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION AND THE BEE FOR COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL WAS THE SUBJECT OF A SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE THAT I WROTE FOR ONE OF THE LEADING BEE JOURNALS AND PRESENTED IT TO THE NATIONAL BEEKEEPING CONFERENCE IN 2019. SO THE FINAL INACCURACY THAT I REALLY SEE IN THE SUMMARY IS THAT THE AUTHOR OF STATES THAT THE REMEDIATION OF BEE HIVES OR A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS IF IN FACT THEY'RE EXPOSED TO THESE PESTICIDES AND I WOULD POINT YOU THE BEEKEEPER WHO'S A FRIEND OF MINE AND MITCH YON OVER IN DORCHESTER COUNTY WHOSE BEES WERE KILLED BY SPRAYING FOR ZIKA VIRUS AND HE IS STILL IN LITIGATION FIVE YEARS LATER THEY RECEIVED A LOT OF NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PRESS. I DON'T THINK THE TOWN'S POSITION IS THAT BEES DON'T MATTER AND PEOPLE MATTER BECAUSE REALLY BEES DON'T NEED PEOPLE.

PEOPLE NEED BEES AND SO I'M SURE THE TOWN'S POSITION IN THE RESOLUTION IS STATED MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN THE MEMORANDUM. BUT I WOULD ADVISE YOU THAT THE MEMORANDUM IS FULL OF FACTUAL INACCURACIES THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS. THANK YOU. MR. HOAGLAND.

>> YES, GO AHEAD. OK. I SEE A PROBLEM WITH MALE HARBOR. YOU'RE VIOLATION OF FOIL, MR. AGE.

MR. MANNIX, IF I HEAR YOU 60 MILLION PLUS OF YOUR OWN MONEY ALL OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS WITHOUT ACCOUNTING OVERSIGHT, PROVEN RETURNS AND WORSE THAN DISCOVERED.

I USED IS USED FOR MY OWN PERSONAL PROFIT BY LAUNDERING COMMITTING TAX EVASION AND THEN YOU ASKED ME FOR AN EXPLANATION AND I TOLD YOU THIS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS IS MY SECRET SAUCE. HOW WOULD YOU REACT? WHY DID YOU ALLOW BILL MILES THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER TO TELL YOU THIS? WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY DO YOU KEEP HANDING MILLIONS EVERY YEAR TO BILL MILES? WHO TOLD YOU NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. THEN YOU IN BANKER LINUX TRAFFIC FRAUDULENT DEMO BOB YOUR CONTRACT WITH BILL MILES TO SEND LINUX TO NAMES. HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK SOUTH CAROLINA TREASURY WILL KEEP HANDING THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD MILLIONS TO ISSUE FOR THIS HE LEGAL SECRET USE? HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK SOUTH HERE? A LOT OF TREASURY TURK DLR IRS AND FBI WILL ALLOW ZERO OVERSIGHT, ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL USE TAX FUNDS TO PAY BILL MILES FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS SALARY OVER ONE MILLION OF A TAX MONEY TO CANADA TO DEVELOP AND HE LEGALLY USE THE APM WEB SITE. HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK YOUR CORRUPTION THE PRIVATE CHAMBER WILL BE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE SOUTH CAROLINA FEDERAL LAWS THAT INCLUDE BOYO PROCUREMENT NONPROFIT CORPORATION. CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS ISSUING PUBLIC TAX MONEY FOR PRIVATE USE, MONEY LAUNDERING FRAUD TAX EVASION IRS BIBLE ONE DAY I SEE SIX NONPROFIT LAWS IRS HUBERT VIOLATIONS BRIBERY, BID RIGGING, EMBEZZLEMENT AND WHATEVER I MISSED. MR. LENNOX, MR. AMES YOU BOTH AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE NOT ONLY VIOLATED YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES TO APPROVE AND SPEND TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS LIKE YOUR OWN MONEY. IT'S MUCH WORSE YOU HAVE BOTH KNOWINGLY SCHEME THAT'S FRAUDULENT. GMO CONTRACT WITH CROOKED CHAMBER BIRD FORM AND LAWYERS DAVID TEARGAS WALTER NESTOR HIGHLY CORRUPTED LOCAL TOWN LAWYERS TERRY FINGER, JOSH GRUBER AND CURTIS COLTRANE AND TOWN MANAGER STEVE RILEY AND MARK ORLANDO WHO ARE BOTH ALONG WITH THE SHYSTER LAWYERS AND TOWN MANAGERS MUST BE FULLY INVESTIGATED THEN HANDCUFFED REMOVED FROM PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE LAWYERS DISBARRED MR AMES. MR. MANNIX.

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THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M GOING TO LOOK REAL FORWARD TO YOUR DEPOSITIONS. BOTH LENNOX AND AMES OF THIS ONGOING SECRET COVE CORRUPTION IT'S OVER. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU, MR. HUDLIN. >> UNFINISHED BUSINESS NEW ONLINE NEW BUSINESS BRUCE

[12.a. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2021-09 Permanent Drainage Easement at the Former Hilton Head Christian Academy Site]

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? MAYOR? I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH JEFF BUCKLEY ASKING HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I EITHER MISSED OR IT WASN'T INCLUDED. I ASKED JEFF IF HE WOULD SHOW A SITE PLAN THAT PUTS IN CONTEXT WHERE THIS EASEMENT IS AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE 12 YEAR OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR BUT ALSO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. JEFF, DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? YES, SIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. ALL RIGHT. VERY WELL.

YES, THIS THIS IDEA CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER AS A TEMPORARY RIGHT AWAY OR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION RIGHT OF ENTRY. I WILL COME BACK TO YOU NOW.

MAKE IT A PERMANENT STONE EASEMENT. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN

HERE. >> LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS.

THANK YOU. YES. THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE SITE PLAN AND IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR MOVING IN THIS AREA, THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY SITE IS AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. THESE MEANDERING PARALLEL LINES REPRESENT A BERM, A STONE WATER INFILTRATION BASE IN THE STORM WATER FROM THE SITE WILL BE COLLECTED AND ALLOWED TO INFILTRATE HERE. THERE WILL BE AN OUTLET CONTROL STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT A CONCRETE BOX WITH A NOTCHED WEIR DURING SEVERE STORM EVENTS.

THE WATER WILL STAGE UP AND BE METERED OR REGULATED AS IT OUTFLOWS ONTO TOWN PROPERTY.

THIS BOLD LINE HERE REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY BOUNDARY.

THE PROPERTY HERE IS OWNED BY THE TOWN. THE PROPERTY HERE TO THE RIGHT.

THESE ARE PRIVATE RESIDENCES ALONG INDIAN TRAIL. THE PIPE OUTLET THROUGH THE BERM STOPS JUST SHORT OF THE TOWN PROPERTY LINE. AND THERE WILL BE SOME RIP RAPS AND STONE TO MITIGATE EROSION RIGHT THERE. THE NEED FOR THE EASEMENT LIES IN THAT. THERE WAS AN OLD SMALL DITCH MEANDERED ALONG THE SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WHEN THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD EXISTED TO MAKE THIS FUNCTION BETTER. THE DEVELOPER AND THE TOWN CONSULTED MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO AND FOR A DITCH TO BE EXCAVATED TO LINE WITH A TRUNK LINE CHANNEL WOULD MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. THE RESIDENTS HERE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE TOWN.

I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN OR ZOOM OUT RATHER ON THIS AREA. AGAIN, THE BLOCK MEANDERING LINE AS THE STORM WATER INFILTRATION BASE IN THE MAGENTA OUTLINE IS THE OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS TOWN PROPERTY. THE RED LINE REPRESENTS THE NEW DITCH IF YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS AN ELEVATION MODEL THAT YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE GREEN LINES CLEARLY BUT THIS DENOTES A CUT THE AT A LOWER ELEVATION. AND SO THE PIPE SYSTEM FROM THE TRAIL EMPTIES OUT TO THIS POINT THE OLD SMALL CHANNEL KIND OF MAN MADE IS WAY DOWN TO A POINT OF CONFLUENCE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO BY. THIS EASEMENT IS ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS CONTRACTOR TO COME ON DOWN LAND EXCAVATED DITCH THE CONNECTOR OUTFALL PIPE TO THIS MAJOR TRUNK LINE CHANNEL. I CAN ZOOM OUT EVEN FURTHER, GIVE EVERYONE CONTEXT OF WHERE WE ARE, WHERE THE HAND IS HOVERING NOW WITH THE VICINITY. I WAS JUST ZOOMED IN ON THE MAGENTA IS THE OLD WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD RED STAR APPEARS THE FORMER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY SITE THE AREA BOUND IN RED IS ALL OWNED BY THE TOWN. THIS IS TOWN LAND THE BLUE CYAN LINE YOU SEE HERE IS THE TRUNK LINE. MAJOR DRAINAGE CONVEYANCE

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JEFF, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OLD WOODLANDS RESIDENTS IS THAT THE OUTFALL VOLUME AND THE RATE OF DISCHARGE WILL NOT BE ANY GREATER THAN WHAT WAS FREE DEVELOPMENT OR UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT STATEMENT SIR. PER THE ALAMO WE MADE SURE THE SITE COMPLIES WITH THE ALAMO.

AND PETE, DISCHARGE FROM POST DEVELOPMENT CANNOT EXCEED THAT OF REDEVELOPMENT AND ALSO THAT THE RETENTION AREA HAS A BERM SEPARATING IT FROM THE OLD WOODLANDS PROPERTY SO THAT UNDER AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION MORE THAN A TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE YEAR FLOOD OLD WOODLANDS WOULD NOT BE SUFFERING OVERFLOW ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL THIS STORMWATER IS BEING MANAGED THROUGH THOSE BASINS. AND AT THE POINT OF DISCHARGE WHERE I JUST SHOWED YOU THE PIPE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OVERFLOW SPILLWAY THOSE STORMS EXCEEDING THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED AN OVERFLOW INTO THE WOODS ON TOWN PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, JEFF. YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE EXTRA TIME TO DO IT. THANK YOU. ALEX WELLS.

>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, JEFF, FOR THAT REPORT.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND FROM A LOT OF CONTACT FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA THAT THERE ARE GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE BEST HE CAN TO SATISFY THOSE PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF JEFF CAN HELP ME. THE EXISTING DITCH THAT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NEW ACCESS IT PLANS TO COVER THAT IMPROVE THAT IN ANY WAY. JEFF? NO, MR. BROWN, THE NEW DEBT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 50 FEET FARTHER AWAY FROM THE LAST RESIDENCE ON INDIAN TRAIL. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT CONTEXT THAT IT'S FURTHER AWAY BUT IT'S JUST GONNA BE AN OPEN DITCH. IT WILL BE STABILIZED, A GRASS HIGH RECEDING, ET CETERA. BUT. BUT THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT TO INSTALL ANY PIPE OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON OUR PROPERTY TO THE EXISTING DITCH THAT IS

THERE. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT? IS IT JUST GOING TO STAY LIKE IT IS? YES, SIR. THEY'RE GONNA DISCONNECTED SO THAT THE RUNOFF WILL GO TO THE NEW BRIDGE. LIKE I SAY, IT'S KIND OF A DEPRESSED AREA WITH TREES ALONG IT. WE WOULD JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS WE WEREN'T GOING TO FILL IT IN OR HAVE THE DEVELOPER FILL IT IN THE EXISTING DITCHES

ON THE TOWNHOMES PROPERTY. >> IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AND I'M BY NO MEANS AM I AN ENGINEER. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO STEP IN THAT ROOM. OKAY. BUT I DO HAVE THE QUESTION IF THERE WILL BE ANY RUNOFF FROM OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL CONNECTION THAT MAY.

OVERFLOW INTO THAT DITCH AND WITHOUT IT HAVING OUT STREAM, WILL THAT CAUSE ADDITIONAL ISSUES? NO, SIR. NO WE DON'T WE DON'T SEE THAT AT ALL. INDIAN TRAIL AS A COUNTY OWNED COUNTY MAINTAIN RIGHT AWAY.

THEY HAVE SOME ROADS DITCHES IN FRONT OF THOSE RESIDENTS AT THE END THAT ULTIMATELY DRAIN OUT INTO THIS BIG TRUNK LINE CHANNEL WE HAVE. BUT NO SIR, ALL ALL OF THIS IS GOING DOWNHILL ONTO THE TOWNS OF FOREST AND WETLAND PROPERTY WITH THE LARGE FRANKLIN CHANNEL IN THE TRUNK LEARNING CHANNEL THAT GOES OUT TO BROAD CREEK WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO KEEP THAT MAINTAINED. IT IS THE TOWNS WHERE IT LIES ON TOWN PROPERTY A CUTS ACROSS SOME OTHER PROPERTIES AND IN RIGHTS AWAY FRANKLY IT GETS OUT INTO THE D.A. RIGHT AWAY AT SOME POINT TOO FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT. JEFF, I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. BE THE BEST THAT WE COULD EVER DO IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT THAT TRUNK IS CLEARED.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WE STAND AT THE MOMENT? I'M TALKING THE ENTIRE WAY TO BLOCK BROAD CREEK. I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

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SO YOU KNOW THOSE THOSE EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN PROPER DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT AN ISLAND I THINK IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. SO IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT GET BACK TO US ON THAT. JEFF, THAT WOULD MAKE ME MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION

THAT WE'RE GOING. >> YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER OR SHOULD WE TAKE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE?

MR. BROWN SUPPORT MR. HAWKINS. >> IS MR. AMES? YES.

THIS IS BETTER. YES. MR. LENNOX? YES. MR. STANFORD? YES.

[12.b. First Reading of Proposed Ordinance 2020-26 – Historic Neighborhoods Preservation Overlay District LMO Amendments]

I'M TOBY BRUCE READING PROPOSAL AND IT'S 20 DAYS 20 DAYS 26 HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT ALAMO AMENDMENTS MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT. >> OK, DISCUSSION I THOUGHT MR. BROWN.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THE AT THE MOMENT, MR. MAYOR. OK.

MR. SICKNESS, MR. JAMES. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I DON'T ONE E-MAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT SAYING WHEREAS THIS OVERLAY AND I ANSWERED THE QUESTION WELL THE OVERLAY IS GEOGRAPHIC AND GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATION AND WE'RE NO LONGER DOING IT GEOGRAPHICALLY. WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH OWNERSHIP.

SO I'M WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THE REFERENCE TO OVERLAY IS A MISNOMER AT THIS POINT OTHER THAN THAT. NO, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR STANFORD? THANK SERVING ON THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE. I CAN REPORT THAT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY EVALUATED AND MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED IN THOSE MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A WORTHY PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU, TAMMY.

WELL FIRST I THINK THAT DAVID'S QUESTION IS INTERESTING AND PERHAPS CORRECT THAT OVERLAY OUGHT TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE TITLE. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT SECONDLY, I JUST WANT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE ARE REMOVING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO HOME OCCUPATION.

I GET THAT THE CHANGE THE CALCULATION OF DENSITY TO ROUND UP.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? >> YES.

WE'RE NOT ROUNDING UP DENSITY ANY MORE. IT'S STILL ROUNDING DOWN TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AND IN TERMS OF OVERLAY, THIS IS FOCUSED MORE ON THE OWNERSHIP AND THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND THOSE ARE FOUR AREAS WITHIN THE NAMED HISTORIC DISTRICTS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND BUT NOT THE OVERLAY ITSELF. SO WE'RE NOT DOING THE OVERLAY.

WE'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TWO APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO APPLICATIONS WHICH IS WHICH OUR FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

RIGHT. THOSE COULD BE ANYWHERE I WOULD CORRECT.

NOT JUST NECESSARILY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. NO, THIS IS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND THEN YOU'RE YOU HAVE SPECIFIC OWNERSHIP.

SO IF YOU OWN YOUR PROPERTY SINCE 1950 6 OR IF YOU ARE SELLING TO IF YOU OWN YOUR

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>> OK, BUT. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION IN ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS. I NEVER HEARD DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO CREATING A NEW VESTED RIGHT. WITH THESE APPROVALS I GUESS HERE ON PAGE TWO.

DID I MISS SOMETHING? I KNOW YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING BUT I THINK BETTER TO DISCUSS THAT WOULD BE TERRY LEWIS. SHE'S THE ALAMO OFFICIAL SO SHE KNOWS HOW TO EXPLAIN BEST AT RIGHTS BETTER THAN. I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THEY GOT IT AND HOW THEY GOT INTO THIS DOCUMENT WITHOUT PRIOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVALS. YES, MA'AM.

I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND THEN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I STILL HAVE AND I KNOW THAT I'VE DONE IT BEFORE YOU KNOW, EACH TIME IT'S LIKE EACH TIME THERE'S A

CHANGE WITH SETBACKS AND BUFFERS. >> THERE IS ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OFFICIAL AT HER DISCRETION OR HIS DISCRETION TO REDUCE IT EVEN FURTHER. AND SO IN THE END ONCE YOU IF ALL OF THOSE OPTION CAME INTO PLAY I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT WE'D BE LEFT WITH AND WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE THAT HAS HAPPENED AND WE'RE LEFT WITH PROPERTY LINES THAT ARE FAR TOO CLOSE, DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO OUT OF CHARACTER. WE HAVE SEEN THOSE SETBACKS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> I'D LIKE TO CLAIM BY ME AND CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND NOT WANTING IT TO CLOSE BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION THERE WOULD BE THE MINIMUM BUFFER REQUIREMENT.

SO FOR INSTANCE OFF OF A MINOR ARTERIAL THE MINIMUM T WITH LESS PLANNING REQUIRED FOR THAT FOR ALL OTHER STREETS YOUR BUFFER WOULD BE 10 FEET AND FOR AN ACCESS EASEMENT IT WOULD BE

THAT VERY IT WOULD BE 10 FEET. >> SO THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A BUFFER THERE WOULD BE A SETBACK BUT IT WOULD BE MINIMAL. SO AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PACE AND I SAW JENNIFER CAME ON MAYBE IN QUESTION THE WRONG WAY. I'LL JUST TRY TO RESTATE IT.

SO WITH THOSE MINIMUMS THAT YOU THAT YOU POINTED OUT IS IS THERE STILL AN OPPORTUNITY THOUGH FOR A FURTHER REDUCTION BY THE OFFICIALS DETERMINATION ? NO, MA'AM. THE REDUCTION WOULD BE THE LESSER OF YOUR BUFFERS.

THERE'S NO FURTHER REDUCTION FURTHER THAN THAT AND SETBACKS .

YES. SO WITHIN SO WITHIN THE DOCUMENT IT SPEAKS TO THOSE TIMES WHEN A FURTHER REDUCTION IN SETBACKS AND BUFFERS CAN BE GRANTED.

BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THAT THAT IS NOT OR NO FURTHER THAT THAT OR BUFFER WE CAN CERTAINLY NOT USE THE DOCUMENT. I'M SORRY.

WE CAN FOR WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE DOCUMENT BUT IT WOULDN'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN THE MINIMUM

SET BACK AND I'LL JUMP IN. >> SURE. IS THIS CORRECT ENTRIES VERIFY THAT THE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF REDUCTION IS WHAT'S OUTLINED IN THE ALAMO AMENDMENTS THAT WE

BROUGHT FORWARD THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET. >> SO THERE'S NO REQUEST OR APPEALED TO THE OFFICIAL FOR ANY FURTHER REDUCTIONS. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THAT WAS CLEARLY STATED IN THE ORDINANCE. SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT

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SO WITH THOSE DOESN'T MAKE TWO BIG CONCERNS WHERE THE IDEA OF A NEW CREATED VESTED RIGHT CAME FROM AND HOW THEY GOT INTO THE ORDINANCE AND BEING CLEAR THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SETBACKS AND BUFFER REDUCTIONS THIS DOES HAVE FROM CLOSINGS ON NEIGHBORS AND SURROUNDING AREAS . AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT A MAP TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD EXTEND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. AND SO THAT ALSO TO ME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO WE KNOW ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. I KNOW THAT IT WENT OUT THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE AS A NOTICE. BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS HAD THEIR VOICES HEARD AND THAT THERE ARE NO LONG TERM CHALLENGES FOR OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THOUGH EVERYONE IS WORKING ON THE SAME WITH ON THE SAME PAGE.

THANK YOU SHERIFF SPRAGUE FOR YOUR INFORMATION. AND JENNIFER, YOU TOO.

THANK YOU BOTH. DAVID YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL JUST ADD THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS WAS WHEN IT WAS A MUCH BROADER THAT AMENDMENTS THAT INCLUDED AS YOU MENTIONED THE DENSITY AND SOME HOME OCCUPATION AND A LOT OF IMPACTS BEYOND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FAMILY AND COMPOUND A FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK BASED ON THIS REDUCED SET OF AMENDMENTS. IT'S ALL BEEN VERY POSITIVE FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING PATIENTLY IN THE WINGS FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE READY ESTABLISHED ON THEIR PROPERTY IN THE NEAR

FUTURE. >> DAVID, MR. HARKINS IS WILLING TO AMEND THE MOTION.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO SECOND IT IN THE AMENDED MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER IS WHAT MISS BECKER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR A MINUTE DECREASING SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND I GUESS I'D HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION OF JENNIFER.

WOULD THAT BE A HARDSHIP OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LIVE WITH A HARDSHIP TO NOT ALLOW REDUCTION OF BEYOND WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY IS THERE'S A SCRAMBLE SHANE A SIX SET BACK AND BUFFER WHAT BEDFORD WAS BRINGING ME NOW LOUD SALES YOU

INTERPRET THAT AND DECREASE THEM FURTHER. >> SO I'M I'M ASKING THE QUESTION FROM STAFF STANDPOINT IS THERE A DOWNSIDE TO AMENDING THE MOTION TO FIX THAT MISDEMEANOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. ADA'S REQUEST TO MODIFY THE MOTION BEFORE I WOULD CONSIDER DOING THAT I FEEL A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION AND SWINGING THE QUESTION TO THE TOWN MANAGER IF HE COULD GIVE US SOME ADVICE. SURE.

I CAN AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO ASSESS THE BOARD ZONING APPEALS MAY GRANT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE FOR SET BACKS AND BUFFERS BASED UPON SPECIFIC PARTICULAR HARDSHIPS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO WHILE WE MAY WRITE IN THE CODE . NO NO LESS THAN 10 FEET THERE COULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WHATEVER THE ISSUE WHAT WE KNOW WHAT THEY MAY BE THAT THAT MAY ALLOW THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE.

SO IF IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ACCURATE WHILE STAFF WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE 10 FOOT MINIMUM THE BOARD IS ZONING APPEALS AS A QUOTE I QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD HAS THAT RIGHT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE TRY TO WRITE IN THE ORDINANCE GETS THROUGH WITH DUE PROCESS FROM A

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SECOND, YOU HAVE MENTIONED I'M UNCOMFORTABLE NOW BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE MANAGER COMMODIFY SO STATED DAVID, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION TO MAKE IT ANY MORE DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S THE BROWN HIS STAFF COULD JUST HELP ME HERE IS IT.

IS IT COMMON WHEN WE ARE MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE ALAMO THAT WE ADD LANGUAGE THAT MAY STRIP THE OFFICIAL FROM POWER THAT MYSELF SOMEONE TERRY OR TELL MANAGER OR SOMEONE ELSE I CAN.

I CAN'T ANSWER IF THAT'S COMMENT OR NOT. >> WELL, I COULD ADD MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL WELL I CAN'T SPEAK TO PAST PRACTICE HERE MANY CODES.

>> MANY, MANY DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE WRITTEN AS ABSOLUTES THAT DO NOT ALLOW THE ADMINISTRATOR TO WAIVE PARTICULAR SECTIONS OR TO ADMINISTRATED BASED UPON THEIR INTERPRETER.

YOU HAVE ABSOLUTES. YOU HAVE TEN FEET AND IF YOU NEED LESS THAN TEN FEET YOU HAVE THE DUE PROCESS THROUGH A VARIANCE APPLICATION AND SO ON. COUNCILMAN BROWN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING BUT MANY CODES ARE WRITTEN WITH VERY SPECIFIC ABSOLUTES 35 FOOT HEIGHT, 20 FOOT BUFFERS, 10 FOOT SETBACKS, WHATEVER WHATEVER YOU HAVE.

IT'S IT'S A LOT OF TIMES VERY CLEAR AND VERY ABSOLUTE. OKAY.

SORT OF THE THE CODE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT. I GUESS MY QUESTION NOW IS IS THE VERBIAGE IN THAT CODE . IT IS GIVING THE OFFICIAL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD STAFF SAYING WAS NOT SO I DEFER TO JENNIFER ON THAT. WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THIS WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE.

>> AND TERRY, WHAT THE ALAMO OFFICIAL WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE IT BEYOND THIS ABSOLUTE THAT WAS SET IN THESE AMENDMENTS. BUT AS MARK POINTED OUT THAT IT COULD STILL GO TO BCA BUT THE OFFICIAL THEMSELVES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REDUCE IT BEYOND WHAT'S OUTLINED IN THESE AMENDMENTS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY WE HAVE TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION IF IT'S ALL AN ABSOLUTE FROM MY

PERSPECTIVE IT'S NOT CLEAR. >> I HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND SECONDLY, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COULD VOTE ON ON THIS WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THE VESTED READ IT WHICH IS A VERY ,VERY POWERFUL RIGHT WAS HOW WE GOT INSERTED INTO THIS FOR

FURTHER CLARIFICATION FOR THE NEXT. >> MR. MAYOR.

OH, I JUST POSED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF WE ARE GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WE NORMALLY GO WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING ALAMO AMENDMENTS.

I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH SUPPORT THE AMENDED MOTION. MR. GLENN, THANK YOU.

>> I THINK THE IDEA OF THE AMENDMENT MAKES SENSE BUT I DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND WHERE THAT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO GO. I'M WONDERING IF THE BETTER TO POSTPONE THIS MATTER OR HAVE IT COME BACK WITH CLARITY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

>> THIS IS BEFORE I CAN COMMENT AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION I'D LIKE THROUGH THE MAYOR REFERRED US THE TIME MANAGER FOR GUIDANCE DURING WHICH WE COULD GIVE HIM ONE OF TWO DIRECTIONS.

THE FIRST THE FIRST SOLUTION COULD BE ADOPTED AS FIRST READING KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND AND FINAL READING WITHOUT A MATERIAL CHANGE IN THE CODE .

BUT GIVE US CLEAR GUIDANCE TONIGHT THAT YOU WANT THE LANGUAGE TO BE A LOT MORE SPECIFIC. THE INTENT OF THE CODE ISN'T CHANGING THE MATERIAL, THE

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READING OK QUOTABLE MR. BROWN THE PORT MR. HARKIN. >> YES MR. AMES.

YES THIS IS PARKER. WELL I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THAT LANGUAGE AND STILL HERE.

>> YES, NOW IT WAS INSERTED. >> SO I'D ALSO ASK THAT THAT INFORMATION BE SHARED WITH US BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND IS NEEDS TO WE ALL NEED TO KNOW

WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHERE IT CAME FROM. >> SO MY VOTE MY VOTE IS NO,

MR. MANNIX. >> THAT'S MR. STANFORD. YES.

MCCANN. YES. YES, SIR.

YEAH. I THINK QUITTING HIS BACKERS SAY IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. SO PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. FLUID MOTION IS AN END OF FAST.

THANKS TO WHY MRS. BECKER OPPOSING GAY LIKES IS A CONSIDERATION RESOLUTION FOR

[12.c. Consideration of a Resolution – Broad Creek PSD Proposed Aquifer Storage and Recovery Facility]

I'LL SECOND A DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL DAVID. YES.

THANK YOU. I THINK THIS POINTS TO A LARGER ISSUE THAN JUST ONE PARTICULAR SMALL SITE. AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH A LONG TERM DISTAIN STRATEGY FOR WATER POTABLE WATER ON THE ISLAND. AND I THINK MAYBE MAYOR, IF I COULD SUGGEST PERHAPS WE OUGHT TO INVITE THE PSTN TO COME AT SOME FUTURE MEETING AND TELL COUNCIL WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND WHETHER THERE'S A STRATEGY OF COLLABORATION OR SEPARATION. I JUST THINK THAT IT'S IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE ISLAND THAT COUNCIL OUGHT TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE PLANS ARE. THANK YOU.

WE HAD INTO THREE MONTHS AGO. JOINING ME. COULD YOU USE THESE? YES. NO. NO.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THOSE IT IS. AND DAVID CORRECT IF I'M WRONG.

BUT IF I'M INTERPRETING WHAT DAVID IS SAYING TO SUGGEST A.. A DISCUSSION PERHAPS EVEN A WHITE PAPER FROM THE PSAT IN TERMS OF CAPACITY GIVEN USING COMMAND ITS RELATIONSHIP TO POPULATION RESIDENTIAL GIVEN ITS RELATIONSHIP TO VISITOR TRAFFIC WHICH IS SEASONAL.

WHAT'S THE SUM TOTAL IMPACT? WHAT ARE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR WATER SYSTEM ON THE TIME LEADING TO THE QUESTION IS THERE IS THERE SOME POINT WHERE WE ASK THE QUESTION IS ENOUGH ENOUGH TO THE MAYOR AND AS DAVID CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

YES, PERHAPS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF RESILIENCE AND RESILIENCY ON THE ISLAND IS OUR ABILITY TO DRINK WATER. SO I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND ASKING THAT QUESTIONS AND THE LOGICAL PEOPLE TO ASK THAT QUESTION ARE THE THREE PIECES.

OKAY. EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

BUT WE DID A FEW MONTHS. WE DIDN'T DO IT. OKAY.

QUICK FOLLOW ME AGAIN. AGAIN. OK, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE THAT

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WE HAVE TO GO ON BOTH MR. BROWN GIVEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK. >> YOU CALL HIM THE ROLE NOW.

YES, SIR. YOU SUPPORT MR. HARKINS. YES, MR. AMES.

I'M SORRY. THERE WAS ONE OTHER THOUGHT. I APOLOGIZE IF THIS RECHARGE AREA BECOMES SALINE IN THE FUTURE. ARE WE SELLING OR LEASING THIS? ARE WE RETAINING SOME SORT OF FUTURE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY? I'VE FORGOTTEN WHETHER OR NOT IT'S STATED THAT MR. AMES I CAN ANSWER THAT EQUAL THAT SUM.

FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL BE LEASING AND EASING THE AREA TO THE BSD.

WE WILL RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU.

I VOTE IN FAVOR, MRS. BECKER. >> MESSER YES. MR. LENNOX?

YES. MR. STANFORD. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I CAN. YES. 7, SIR.

WANT TO WATCH 12 E.. THE DURATION STATEMENT IS STATE VISIBLE STATE HIGHWAY PROJECT AGREEMENT JUST ACROSS COURSE EXPRESSWAY LOCAL OH WE SKIPPED THE WAS PULLED FROM WE PULLED THE PLUG. YEAH. MOVE FIRST.

>> DISCUSSION. CAN YOU HELP ME, MR. MAYOR? WE DID WE ARE WE JUST HAD TO WE

[12.d. Consideration of a Resolution – Municipal Consent for Aerial Mosquito Control]

OH WE DID. YEAH. YES SIR.

YEAH. YEAH. WHEN WE DO YOU UNION NOW SPARTA MAYOR MCCANN THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO PULL THIS ITEM TODAY AND SEND IT TO LEGAL COUNSEL FOR FINAL REVIEW AND AMENDING THE MEMO SO THAT THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION IS

PROVIDED. OK. >> I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW PROTOCOL. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I JUST I DON'T WANT IT TO BITE US LATER. JUST PLEASE I'M ASKING IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT ITEM FROM THE AGENDA, MAKE IT CLEAR. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE REMOVE ITEM TWELVE THE FROM THE AGENDA WITH THE CONCURRENT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REMAIN THIS TO A LEGAL COUNCIL AND I WOULD SUGGEST LEGAL COUNSEL AVAILED HIMSELF SCIENTIFIC OPINION SCIENTIFIC OPINION CORRECT. WORKING WITH YOU FOR COMING.

YOU DON'T CONTROL THAT'S EXACTLY. IS THERE A SECOND? YES, ALEX. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU MAKE MAKE SURE WE WILL BE ADDRESSING OF THOSE CONCERNS AS WE GO IN THIS DIMENSION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. HOLMES IS WHEN YOU SEE A SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSIONS.

YES, YES. YES. I'LL I'LL SAY THE BOSS THERE.

>> YES. DAVID, THERE IS THE DIMENSION MR. ANSELL BROUGHT UP THAT I THINK IS REALLY CRITICAL AND THAT IS OUR TOWN REPUTATION BRAND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP DIDN'T HELP. THIS LANGUAGE IS ABSOLUTELY CONTRADICTORY OF THAT VALUE SYSTEM. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.

I'M NOT SURE THE LANGUAGE IS SAYING WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY IS YES, SIR.

MR. EAMES, IF I MAY. DAVID ARE NO. CALL ME THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THIS. AND WE HAVE TALKED WITH A BEAUFORT COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALONG WITH JOBS THAT WE WORK WITH THEM.

AND DAVID, HOW TO PROPERLY PRACTICE INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION FOR MR. HARKINS AND A SECOND FROM MR. BROWN. I WILL TAKE ROLL. WAS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION

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PART OF MY MOTION IN MAY OR MCCANN'S YES. >> THAT MOTION TO MOVE TO NEXT

[12.e. Consideration of the Municipal State Highway Project Agreement – Cross Island Parkway Toll Conversion ]

AGENDA IS PASSED 7 0 OKATIE. >> NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 12 BEING COURSE IRELAND FORTHWITH TOTAL CONVERSION MOVE FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BY JULY 1. OK. GROWING DAMAGE WEEK JUST SLIPPING THROUGH AND I CAN'T FIND IT SO I'M NOT SURE I READ IT.

WE HAVE A FULL SCOPE OF WORK. >> THIS PROJECT WE DO. IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM SIDOTI ON THE CALL THIS AFTERNOON.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. F YOU KNOW WHAT? I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND ANY QUESTION OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THE QUESTION PLEASE

SEGMENT MR. BROWN SUPPORT MR. HAWKINS. >> YES, MR..

YES. MRS. BECKER. YES.

MR. MANNIX. >> YES. MR. FEINBERG.

YES. AND MAY OR MAY I CAN GUESS SHE HAS TO CARRY THE CYLINDER.

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>> WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. YES, SIR.

MR. MAY I? WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE REASONS FOR IT AND THEN COME A SECOND ON IT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. PERFECT. WE'RE BACK IN A MINUTE.

THANK YOU, MR. IT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED A MOTION AND A VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE ABOUT THE TAX FUNDING.

[14. Possible actions by Town Council concerning matters discussed in Executive Session]

GOOD CONVERSATION. CHRISTY, MAKE THE CALL. SECONDLY, SIR.

MR.. EXCUSE MR. BROWN FOR MR. HAWKINS.

>> YES, MR. AMES. YES, MRS. BECKER. YES, MR. LENNOX? YES. MR. STANFORD? YES.

MAYOR. YES. A MOTION TO JOIN NOW.

PLEASE SMOKE ALL THING. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY. APPRECIATE THREE RECORDING HAS. THE TALENTED

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