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I LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
AND, UM, I GUESS WE'LL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, RIGHT? SO GUESS WE SHOULD STAND UP AND THERE'S THAT FLAG BEHIND ME.
SO I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE COUNTRY IN THE VISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WHERE DO YOU CLAP? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, ANY SORT OF MAN MINUTES OR ANYTHING, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETING AGENDA.
DO WE NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING OR IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.
UH, I'VE INCLUDED A, UH, A DRAFT OF THE MANDATE FOR THE LADIES ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER TASK FORCE.
AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON AT THE VILLAGE CENTER TASK FORCE, BUT WE'LL NEED TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT, SEND IT DOWN THERE SO THEY, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET IT, GIVE IT A FACIAL.
SO ANY COMMENTS ON A MAP, MIKE, IS HE HERE YET? YOU'RE HERE.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DO WITH THIS SAYING SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
JUST BRIEFLY, I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK HERE, FEEDBACK HERE, BUT BRIEFLY, UH, UM, THE BACKGROUND KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT TALKS A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL MANDATE, UH, FOR THE LADIES ISLAND, UM, UH, PLAN THAT WAS SET UP BEFORE THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, BILLY CENTER MASTER PLAN, UH, DOWN BELOW THERE OUTLINES, UH, MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER AND GETTING INVOLVED WITH, UM, THE, UM, UM, THE MAP THAT WAS ATTACHED BEHIND THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE OUT AS JUST A EARLY CONCEPT MAP THAT, THAT I HAD PRODUCED.
AND I AM IN THE PROCESS OF IT BASED ON, UH, THE INPUT FROM THE TASK FORCE, UH, IN OUR LAST MEETING.
SO IN OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK, UH, I'LL HAVE A, UH, UH, A REDONE, UH, PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, AT LEAST THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND THAT'LL BE A BASIS FOR SHARING.
UH, WHEN WE GO OUT AND START TO SHARE, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANDATE, UH, IT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE, UH, THE TASK FORCE.
UH, I THINK EVERYBODY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT TO THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE MANDATE AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HEAR ME NOW? I, WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
RAISE THEIR THUMBS OR SAY, AYE.
AND THE VILLAGE CENTER GUYS FOR PUTTING THIS THROUGH AND PUSHING IT THROUGH, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND, UH, WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS OVER THERE, AND HE'LL TELL US MORE ABOUT IT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE AGENDA.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS OUR SEA LEVEL RISE UNTIL ORDINANCE.
AND I'LL LET ROBERT TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE HE'S BEEN ALL OVER TOWN TALKING ABOUT IT, SO WE'LL LET HIM KEEP GOING.
UH, ALAN, FOR SOME REASON, YOUR MICROPHONE IS I THINK CAUSING THE FEEDBACK.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GO TO TWO SOURCES, BUT, UM, UH, JUST A QUICK
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UPDATE.I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE PROGRESS OF THE, UM, COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY, WHICH IS THE FANCY NAME FOR OUR SEA LEVEL RISE OVERLAY ORDINANCE AND THE FILL ORDINANCE.
UM, FROM THE COUNTY SIDE OF THINGS, THESE TWO, UH, DOCUMENTS WENT TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUR MARCH, UH, MARCH 1ST MEETING.
THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE, UM, APRIL 5TH NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MEETING.
HOWEVER, UM, WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE HILTON HEADS, UM, THE SOUTH OF THE BROAD'S BOARD OF REALTORS, ALONG WITH THE BUFORD AREA BOARD OF REALTORS AND THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THEY HAD PUT TOGETHER A MEMO OUTLINING SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND THEY, UM, WANT TO HAVE MORE TIME, I GUESS, TO LOOK AT BOTH ORDINANCES.
AND SO THE, THE CHAIRMAN, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO POSTPONE ACTION, UH, UNTIL THE MAY MEETING.
AND SO THEY HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE STATUS OF THE COUNTIES I AM AWARE AND I'LL SPEAK IN LINDA'S ABSENCE.
UH, THIS IS A FIRST DAY OF, UH, LINDA BRIDGES RETIREMENT.
SO, UM, THAT SHE, UM, BROUGHT BOTH OF THESE ORDINANCES BEFORE METRO AT THEIR MARCH MEETING.
UM, AND SO, AND THEY WERE APPROVED BY METRO AND SO THEY SHOULD BE IN LINE TO GO TO, UM, PORT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I COULD REPORT FROM, UH, BEAVER COUNTY AND FROM TOWN OF PORT ROYAL.
ROB, CAN I ASK ABOUT THE, UM, CONCERNS THAT THE HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED AND WHETHER YOU FEEL THEY'RE CAPABLE OF BEING ADDRESSED, AND THIS CAN CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD OR KIND OF JUST CURIOUS MORE ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON, ON WHERE WE ARE.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY MAINLY, UM, ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY AND THAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES DISCLOSURE WHEN LAND LOW-LYING PROPERTIES ARE SOLD.
THE BOARD OF REALTORS FEELS THAT THAT IS REDUNDANT WITH OTHER NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, FEMA FLOOD INSURANCE.
UM, HOWEVER, WITH THE NEW FEMA MAPS, IN SOME PLACES, THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION GOES WELL BELOW THE 10 FEET THAT WE'RE REQUIRING IN THAT DISTRICT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT LANDS IF LAND IS CONVEYED WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, VACANT LAND IS CONVEYED, YOU KNOW, TH TH TH THIS NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT WOULD APPLY TO THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THERE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A, UM, YOU KNOW, NOTICE OF FLOOD INSURANCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS PART OF THE ARGUMENTS, I THINK IN GENERAL, I MEAN, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE WITH BOR, YOU KNOW, WITH REALTORS THAT ANYTIME YOU ARE FLAGGING A CONCERN ABOUT A PROPERTY THERE'S CONCERN THAT THAT MIGHT AFFECT PROPERTY VALUE OR THE ABILITY TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BALANCE THE PUBLIC INTEREST AGAINST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTS OF THE SELLERS, AND I PROVIDED THEM ALSO THE INTEREST OF THE BUYERS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT CONCERN.
UM, SO THOSE, I WOULD SAY ARE THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT KEEP GETTING BRAISED, UM, AND SOME OTHER THINGS HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, HOW WILL THIS BE ENFORCED? AND, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE FINAL THING IS THAT OUR ORDINANCE MENTIONS THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT AT CLOSING AND MANY REALTORS SAY, THAT'S NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE DISCLOSING THIS INFORMATION, WHICH I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IS EITHER A SIMPLE FIX TO THE ORDINANCE, OR, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S UP TO THE REALTOR WHEN THEY WANT TO DISCLOSE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE ORDERED, SAYS YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL CLOSING IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE THE SIGNATURE, BUT THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S KIND OF, IN A NUTSHELL, ALAN PATTERSON WAS ALSO IN THAT MEETING.
SO IF I MISSED ANYTHING, UH, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN WELL, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE A LOT OF WHAT A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS, IS STOPPING BUSINESS, STOPPING THE SALE.
TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY A LOT, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD GET A DISCLOSURE THAT YOU WERE TO SAY IN AN ACRE ZONE.
AND I THINK THAT ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS, WHEN THEY SELL THE LAND, IT REALLY GOES WITH THE LAND.
AND I THINK WHEN THEY BUY THE LOT OR THEY GET READY TO BUY IT A LOT, I THINK IT CAN BE
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WORKED OUT WITH THEM, UM, THAT THEY BE NOTIFIED THAT IT IS IN A FLOOD PLAIN AND MIGHT BE PRONE TO FLOODING.BUT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'RE NOT UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY RESISTANT RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING ALL THE FACTS ON THE TABLE.
SO, UH, THEY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, BUT TH THE IMPACT IS PRETTY BIG OVER THERE BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE LAND IS, IS LOW LYING AND SUBJECT TO A FLOODING, PARTICULARLY WITH THE SEA LEVEL RISE ORDINANCE.
SO WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO THERE, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH IT.
AND BROAD, SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
WAS IT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT? IS IT POSSIBLE TO BREAK THEM UP AND HAVE THE PHIL ORDINANCE GO FORWARD? IF THERE'S STILL SOME ISSUES GETTING THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY LANGUAGE SORTED OUT, OR DO YOU THINK IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TOGETHER? UM, THEY ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE FILL ORDINANCE.
I THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN CLARIFY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, THEY'RE PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND OUR MESSAGE ALL ALONG HAS BEEN THAT THERE ARE A LOT MORE OPTIONS WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE TO BRING IT UP TO BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDING AND IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, THE PRIMARY AREAS IMPACTED, OR THE GATED COMMUNITIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TWO 78, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT, WHAT IF THESE CONFLICT WITH, WITH LOCAL ARB REQUIREMENTS? AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IN WITH THE PHIL ORDINANCE, IT'S GETTING ON THE SAME PAGE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
IT'S PRIMARILY TARGETED FOR THE, THESE LARGE FOOTPRINT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, WHETHER IT WOULD EXPEDITE TO, TO PULL THEM APART, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A DECISION THAT ONCE THIS GETS TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS ON THE MAY AGENDA FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, UM, MAYBE THAT'S A DECISION THEY CAN MAKE AT THAT POINT.
ROB, WHO'S THE CHAIR OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
UH, MY HAVE TWO STANCES, UH, FLORIDA, THE, THE FAIL ORDINANCE AND THE SEA LEVEL RISE ORDINANCE.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THE PILL ORDINANCE.
YOU MIGHT STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THAT THROUGH.
AND THEN SOME OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS HAVE MADE EXCEPTIONS WITH REMODELING AND ADDITIONS, UM, AS FAR AS FLOOD OVER THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, AND THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FROM A BUILDING STANDPOINT, SEA LEVEL RISE.
MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, AND IT CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE LAND AND MORE AREA AND LIVE TWO SENSES.
IT MIGHT BE HARDER TO GET A CONSENSUS ON THAT, BUT LIKE ROB SAID, WE JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH IT.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY THIS YEAR.
AND SO THEY'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, APPLYING THIS NEW STANDARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, UM, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ON BOARD WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE.
UM, WHAT I DON'T HAVE AT THIS POINT IS AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE OTHER MUNICIPALITY STAND.
WELL, I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET BACK TO IT AS NEXT MEETING.
I CAN TELL YOU FOR THE CITY WE HAD, WE HAD REFERENCED THE, UH, THE COUNTY STORMWATER ANNUAL AS OURS IN OUR CODE.
UM, SO THE WAY WE'RE TREATING IT IS THAT THE UPDATING WE'RE STILL, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE UPDATED IT, YOU'VE GOT A NEW ONE.
THAT'S STILL, IN FACT, WE MAY NEED TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TREATING IT AS WE STILL ADOPTED THE STORMWATER, THE COUNTY STORMWATER METAL.
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE CITY HAS INCORPORATED
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BOTH THE FILL AND THE, UH, UH, COASTAL RESILIENCE IN TWO YEARS? UH, STORM WATER PLAN DOES THAT FOR ME MICROPHONE? SO OUR STORM WATER PLAN IS OUR STORM WATER MANUAL IS THE COUNTY STORMWATER MANUAL.SO WE'VE ADOPTED THE COUNTY STORMWATER MANUAL, AND WE'VE NOT MADE A CHANGE.
WE'VE NOT MADE ANY ADDITIONS TO THAT.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT UPDATED, UM, STORMWATER SINCE THE COUNTY HAS UPDATED THEIR MANUAL, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE CITY IN EFFECT HAS UPDATED, ADOPTED THAT UPDATED MANUAL AS WELL? YEAH.
THAT'S BEEN THE CITY'S POSITION.
AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF, WHEN WE SAID, IF WE SAID THE COUNTY, JUST THE COUNTY STORMWATER MANUAL, OR WERE WE, IF THERE'S A DATE WITH IT, IF THERE'S A DATE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY JUST NEED TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE.
SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE W THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE USING THE NEW STORMWATER MANUAL.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PHIL AND THE COASTAL RESILIENCE, I KNOW WITH THE PHIL, THE CITY ADOPTED, UM, INCORPORATED SOME OF THE, THE REQUIREMENTS INTO THE FLOOD PREVENTION ORDINANCE, CORRECT.
UM, ARE Y'ALL CONSIDERING, UM, TAKING UP THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR.
SO WE, WE ARE, BUT I THINK GIVEN IT REALLY NEEDS A COUNTYWIDE IMPACT, UM, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE WINGING FOR THE, I THINK I FROZE OUT.
I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR THE COUNTY TO GET IT MOVING AND GET IT THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT.
AND I'LL POINT OUT THE ORIGINAL DEAL THAT WAS MADE WHEN WE PASSED THE LADIES ON PLANT TWO OR DENSITY ORDINANCE, THE RISING SEA LEVEL ORDINANCE, AND THE, UM, FILL ORDINANCE WOULD ALL BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BEFORE WE CONSIDER, UH, MAKING MOVEMENT ON THOSE AND THE GROWTH RETRACTION OF THE GROWTH BONKERS.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE, UH, OUR FLOOD ORDINANCE WAS TAKE CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE FILM ORDINANCE AND THE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, AND WE'LL CONSIDER THE COASTAL OVERLAY AS SOON AS THE COUNTY GETS IT ROLLING THROUGH THEIR FORMAL PROCESSES.
BUT THE CITY DOESN'T SEE MY SENSE IN PASSING IT WITHIN OUR OWN JURISDICTION BY OURSELVES, IF NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO DO IT WELL, WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, I WAS GOING TO GET A MOVE ON A PENNY SALES TAX AND PATHWAY PROJECT.
AND JENNIFER BRAG SAID SHE WOULD, UH, BRING US UP TO SPEED WITH THAT.
UM, SO ON THE PENNY SALES TAX IN THE MONTH OF MARCH A, UH, SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATION, OR THE SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS WAS APPROVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE, IT HAS NOW BEEN ISSUED ON THE BEAVER COUNTY, PENNY WEBSITE, LEANINGS TAB, WHERE THE, UH, INFORMATION FOR THE OCTOBER 3RD, NOVEMBER, UH, VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING INFORMATION IS HOUSED.
SO THERE IS A DOCUMENT THERE THAT YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT.
WE ALL SET WITH THE PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND TWO OTHER VIRTUAL MEETINGS TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW.
ONE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RIBEYE RELO SIDEWALK.
IT IS FROM ONE MEMORIAL DRIVE TO NEAR RON LANE, UH, TO LIVE IN AN ADDITIONAL, UH, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK.
THAT MEETING IS ONGOING THROUGH APRIL THE 11TH.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY PATHWAY.
THE, UH, THE VISUAL PATHWAY ALONG BLOCKED AND RIGHT NEAR THE ROUNDABOUT DISCONNECTED OUT FROM CYBER DIDN'T DRIVE UP TO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT IT AT LEAST KEEPS PEOPLE FROM CROSSING AT AN, UM, SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION TO CONTINUE LIVING, UH, DOWN, ALONG BLOCK AND PARKWAY.
SO THOSE TWO ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, ONCE THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS EXPIRE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO GET THOSE, TO ADVERTISE FOR CONSTRUCTION LATER THIS YEAR.
AND BOTH OF THEM DO REQUIRE A RIDE REQUEST.
SO WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO RIDE A BLAKE PROCESS FOR BOTH OF THEM
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WITH THE OTHER SALES TAX PROJECTS, UH, AIRPORT FRONTAGE ROAD, UH, PHASE ONE, WHICH IS FROM THE U S 21 INTERSECTION, OR LET YOU ALWAYS GET CONFUSED.BELIEVE US LAST ISLAND IS THE FIRST ONE THAT'S UNDER DESIGN.
THE SECOND COMPONENT FROM ALL SILENCED, A LITTLE CRATE WILL BE PULLED BACK UNDER THE MAIN DESIGN TEAM OR THE OTHER ACCESS ROADS.
UH, THERE'S TWO DESIGN TEAMS. ONE IS THE DAVISON BOYD TEAM THAT WILL BE, UH, SEVERAL ACCESS RIDES.
AND THEN THE STANTEC TEAM, WHICH WILL DO THE MAIN ONE BEING ABLE TO WORK AND THE BEEPER HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS MARIJUANA, THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
A NETLIST PER SE TO ENTER INTO DESIGN HAS BEEN ISSUED TO BOTH OF THEM.
WE HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING FOR 13TH AND MARCH.
SO NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THEIR INITIAL DESIGN SERVICES, SUCH AS SURVEYS, DOING SOME WETLAND DELINEATIONS TO TRULY ENTER INTO FULL PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
THE TEAMS, UH, BOTH OF ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THE PUBLIC MEETINGS HAVE CLOSED.
WE ARE STILL WORKING ON RESPONSES TO PILOT.
70 CITIZEN IS 11 A WRITTEN, OR IT PROVIDED A RESPONSE OR COMMENT WITH A PHYSICAL MAILING ADDRESS WILL BE ISSUED A WRITTEN RESPONSE.
THOSE ARE STILL UNDERWAY FOR ALL OF THEM.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE PULLED TOGETHER TWO SUMMARY REPORTS OF BOTH PUBLIC MEETINGS.
LET US, WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC KAYLEE'S PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE IN APRIL FOR THEIR CONCURRENCE ON BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD INTO DESIGN, UH, LETTERS.
AND THEN LIKEWISE, WE ARE STARTING THE COORDINATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS UPCOMING AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THE OTHER ONE I BELIEVE FOR, AT ME WAS APRIL 21ST.
SO WE WILL DISCUSS WITH NOW THE BRIEFER HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS REALIGNMENT, AS WELL AS THE LADY'S ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS.
WHEN WAS THAT LAST MEETING FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS AND THE OTHER ONE? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT THERE ARE TWO OF THEM.
ONE IS APRIL THE EIGHTH AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I BELIEVE IT'S APRIL THE 21ST AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
NOW IT'S LETTING ME IT WOULDN'T LET ME ON MUTE THERE FOR A SECOND.
UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THOSE TWO MEETINGS WERE.
SO THAT FIRST MEETING IS WITH THE BUFORD HIGH SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT COUNCIL ON, UM, APRIL THE EIGHTH.
AND THE SECOND MEETING IS WITH THE BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARDS OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE BOARD.
AND, UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT ARE NOW BEING PRESENTED.
AND SO THAT WILL BE A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION.
WELL, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, ARE THOSE PUBLIC OR CLOSED MEETINGS? THEY'RE BOTH PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UH, THE SSC MEETING IS VIRTUAL AND I KNOW THE OPERATIONS MEETING HAS A VIRTUAL COMPONENT, BUT, UM, THEY MAY ALSO BE MEETING IN PERSON.
WELL, WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE WORKING SE SURVEY CREWS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I'M GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ON IT, PARTICULARLY OVER THERE ON SUNSET.
ANYWAY, I'LL LET ME GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WIDE HOLLAND, IF WE'RE FINISHED WITH, UM, WITH THE PENNY SALES TAX ROADS UPDATE.
SO WHY ALL IS, UH, IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND MOVING THROUGH WITH CAROLINA ENGINEERS, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, THEY'RE GETTING THEIR APPROVALS FROM VA FOR JASPER WATER AND SEWER AND THE CITY.
THEY ANTICIPATE BEING PERMITTED TO START DEVELOPMENT IN EARLY JUNE.
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ARE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION IMMEDIATELY.AND, UH, MY GUESS IS ONCE THEY GET APPROVED, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS OF PARTICULARLY ON HARBOR VIEW MAY BE ABLE TO START BEFORE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN ON THE FULL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY FEED ALCOHOL REVIEW SO FAR, THEY SOLD ONE COMMERCIAL LOT, ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT AND GOT RESERVATIONS ON EIGHT.
SO THERE'S ONLY A 30 LOTS NOW, AND THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, THEY TOOK THE FOUR SMALL COTTAGES AND MADE THOSE INTO BUILDING LOTS SO THEY CAN SAVE SOME TREES.
SO THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL STAY ON SCHEDULE.
SO WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? THIS INFORMATION RIGHT FROM MICHAEL MARK AND LAVONNE.
UM, THAT'S JUST HIS, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE SALESMAN HE'S DEVELOPING IT? WELL, THE IT'S CURIOUS BECAUSE THE SCARCE PLAN GOT APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE NEXT STEP WAS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T HAD.
AND THEN ONCE THEY CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THEY CAN FILE FOR A FINAL PLAT.
YOU CAN NOT SELL LOTS TILL YOU HAVE A FINAL PLAT.
WELL, THEY MAY HAVE RESERVATIONS ON THEM, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID SELL, BUT I, WELL, ACTUALLY THEY MUST HAVE RESERVATIONS ON AT LEAST TO WHERE THEY'VE GOTTEN DOWN PAYMENTS AND EIGHT RESERVATIONS ON THE OTHER ONES.
BUT, AND I SUSPECT LIKE MOST DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THEIR PACE, BUT YOU WOULD KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH YOU.
WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF SALES.
IT'S, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING THAT ONE COMMERCIAL LOT SOLD FOR QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY UP FRONT.
SO I THINK, WELL, I GUESS MY REPORT SHOULD SAY, THINGS ARE VERY POSITIVE OVER THERE.
THERE IT'S, THEY REDUCE THE DENSITY BY SEEING MORE HOUSES.
WE THINK THERE'S A BIG DEMAND OVER THERE FOR THAT PRODUCT.
AND I THINK IT'S A, BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR IMPROVING THE ENTRANCE TO LADY'S ISLAND.
AND I WANT TO THANK JASON AND, AND, UM, AND, UH, MIKE TOLD ME AND PAUL BUTARO FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HELP BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE DEVELOPERS DO THAT.
ANY, UM, ANY, ANY COMMERCIAL IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UH, APPROVAL BY THE, BY THE BODY.
I DON'T, THAT THAT HASN'T OCCURRED EITHER.
SO, UM, I'M THINKING THAT THEIR JUNE DATE IS VERY, UH, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THEIR PAPERWORK IN AND CAN TRY TO GET SOMETHING GOING AND THEN START THE WORKS.
THAT'S PROBABLY BE TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT.
WHAT, I'M, WHAT I'M ANTICIPATING, ALAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO, UH, ASK SAM IF HE MIGHT WANT TO JUST GET IN TOUCH WITH DAVID AND SIT DOWN AND, UH, HAVE, UH, DAVID HELP HIM PUT TOGETHER A TIMELINE, MAKE SURE THAT HE'S, UH, GETTING EVERYTHING DONE THE WAY HE'S SUPPOSED TO.
I KNOW, I KNOW SAM DOESN'T LIKE SURPRISES, SO, UH, THAT MIGHT BE, UH, A GOOD IDEAS.
I'M SURE THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO HELP HER AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE HE CAN GET HIS PROJECT IMPLEMENTED WHEN HE WANTS TO.
AND THE, UM, I WONDER IF HE WAS TALKING ABOUT JUNE WAS MAYBE HOPE WORKING ON THE OUTFALL AND THAT KIND OF IN THAT ISSUE.
AND THEN I KNOW THE EAGLE'S NEST HE'S CREATED A, OR KIND OF RESTRICTED THE TIME THAT HE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE HEARD ALAN, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THE FIRST THING WAS TO GET THAT OUTFALL WORK DOWN SO WELL, I'LL JUST GET WITH SAM AND, AND TELL HIM THAT DON'T THINK DON'T BELIEVE THE ENGINEERS, YOU BETTER GET WITH THE CITY.
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ALRIGHT.UM, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, JASON? HEY, ALLEN.
UM, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME STILL, ANYBODY HEAR ME, BUT, UH, YEAH, NO.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 10:00 AM AT THE AIRPORT CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, WE ARE ONE MEMBER SHY NOW CALLED MATERIAL RESIGNED ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE.
UM, COVID KIND OF SHUT DOWN OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
UM, BUT YES, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE AS A, UM, CITIZEN GROUP, UM, ADVISORY GROUP, AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY A SOUNDING BOARD FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON ON LADY'S ISLAND.
UM, WE'VE STARTED TRYING TO FORMALIZE SOME BYLAWS, WHICH ARE PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE LIP OF BYLAWS.
WE'VE BORROWED A LOT FROM THAT.
UM, GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK ON THAT BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S SOME, SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT THEM TO BE QUITE THAT FORMAL, UH, BUT WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY TOWARDS NOMINATING, UM, SOME NEW MEMBERS AND, UM, FARMING UP OR STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE ONLY STIPULATION TO BE A MEMBER AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS TO BE EITHER A RESIDENT OF LADY'S ISLAND OR TO OWN A BUSINESS ON LADIES ZONE.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT IS AN OPEN MEETING.
SO ALL OF YOU WILL ATTEND WHENEVER YOU CAN.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT, HEY JASON, I HAD ONE THING I COULD NOT OPEN THE FILE THAT YOU HAD SENT ME.
UH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND RESENDING THAT AS A, UH, JUST REGULAR PDF.
SORRY, JASON, IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY SERVING AS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE, SHOULD THEY REACH OUT TO YOU OR JUST ATTEND THE NEXT MEETING OR HOW SHOULD INTERESTED PEOPLE GET INVOLVED? WELL, JESSE, THEY'RE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT IS AN OPEN MEETING.
SO I'M WITH ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON ON LADY'S ISLAND, WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OR MORE ON THE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS SIDE, AND PLEASE COME TO THE MEETINGS, UM, BUT FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME EITHER WAY.
UM, I SKIPPED OVER OR THE, UH, LADIES ALLEN DELL CENTER PAN PLAN THAT MIGHT TELL ME HE'S BEEN WORKING ON IT SO EFFICIENTLY.
SO YOU WANT TO GIVE US A GREAT, WELL, I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT, UM, UH, IN BITS AND BASES, BUT JUST TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, WE, WE ARE HAVING A GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE ENGINEERS RIGHT NOW AND, UH, WITH THE NEW, UH, ENGINEERS COMING ON BOARD, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND, UH, GET SOMETHING CREATED SO THAT WE CAN BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE DON'T CROSS, UH, CROSS PATHS, UH, NEGATIVELY IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ALONG WITH THE, UH, UH, THE ENGINEERS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THEIR, UH, WITH THEIR WORK EFFORT.
UM, THE, UH, THE PLAN THAT YOU SAW HERE, UH, I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DON'T SHARE THAT.
I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THAT ON THE TASK FORCE ALREADY, BUT, UH, I'M GOING TO BE, UH, PRODUCING ANOTHER ONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK.
THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, MORPHIC MORE AND MORPHIC THAN THIS.
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ONE THAT WILL CONVEY MORE OF A MESSAGE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO THAT IT CAN BE USED WHEN WE START TO TALK TO PEOPLE.UH, WE HAVE PRODUCED, UH, A LIST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE APPROXIMATE TO, UM, THE LADY'S ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, UM, UH, WORK WITH RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A LIST OF, UH, APRIL THAT ALREADY HAVE A STRONG CONTACTS WITH, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
I ASKED EVERYBODY TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, TRYING TO FILL OUT, UH, INFORMATION, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO HAS STRONG CONTACTS WITH DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
UM, THE, UM, UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, UH, ALSO, UH, ZONING AND I THINK, UH, UM, UH, CHASSIS, UH, YOU WERE GOING TO GET ME SOMETHING BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING ON, ON SOME OF THE ZONING ASPECTS.
UH, I HAD PUT OUT A FEW ASSIGNMENTS AND I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY YET, SO HOPEFULLY I'LL, I'LL SEE SOMETHING COMING BACK ON ON THAT.
UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I THINK YOU HAD ASKED FOR, UM, ROB TO LOOK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWED THE CITY'S ZONING AND THE COUNTY'S ZONING KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE? YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I DID ASK ROB IF HE COULD DO THAT.
AND, UH, TWO THINGS, I GUESS, AND, AND DAVID, THAT WAS THE OTHER THING, THE SPREADSHEET THAT I HAD PUT TOGETHER, IF YOU COULD, UH, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE CITIES, UH, THE ASPECTS OF THE ZONING FOR THE CITY AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE CORRECT ON THAT SPREADSHEET.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, I'LL GET IT BACK TO YOU.
AND THEN, AND THEN ROB, YOU WERE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING, AND THEN ALSO TRY AND, UH, ASSOCIATE THE ZONINGS THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAD WERE THE CLOSEST TOGETHER IN TERMS OF WHAT, UH, WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS WERE, UH, SO THAT WE COULD, I COULD READJUST THE SPREADSHEET TO SHOW THEM SIDE BY SIDE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
WE'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
UH, AND I I'D LIKE TO, UH, WE'LL MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE CONSULTANT, UH, HOPEFULLY, AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON HERE, BUT WANTED TO ASK ROB, UH, WHERE WE STAND WITH A CONSULTANT AT THIS POINT.
UM, WHAT, SO I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOWS THE BACKGROUNDS IN THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, ABOUT A VILLAGE CENTER MASTER PLAN, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THE PROJECTS, THE PENNY SALES TAX PROJECTS ON LADY'S ISLAND, OR MOVING FORWARD IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THAT THEY HAVE A GREAT IMPACT POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, LADY'S ISLAND.
AND THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS SEEM TOO FAR AHEAD AND IT MAY BE MISSING SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS HAPPEN A WAY THAT FURTHERS THE VISION FOR LADY'S ISLAND.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE TASK FORCE WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS JENNIFER MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COUNTY IS ENGAGED WITH TWO DIFFERENT DESIGN FIRMS TO DESIGN THESE PROJECTS, UM, DAVIS AND FLOYD, AND ALSO STANTEC STANTEC, WHICH THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE HIRED TO LOOK AT SEATTLE AND PARKWAY AND THE HIGH SCHOOL CONNECTOR ROADS.
UM, THEY HAVE A FULL SERVICE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ONE OF THESE FIRMS THAT ENCOMPASSES TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAVE, UH, THEIR OWN PLANNING DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DOVETAIL OFF OF THEIR EFFORTS AND RATHER THAN PROCURE A, ANOTHER FIRM TO GET INVOLVED IN A PROCESS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET STANTEC TO MODIFY THEIR, THEIR SCOPE AND, UH, DO A, UM, CONNECTIVITY AND, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE DESIGN OF THESE PROJECTS, WE HAVE ABOUT A FOUR TO SIX MONTH WINDOW AS THIS VERY INITIAL DESIGN WORK IS HAPPENING WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SURVEY AND TO REALLY PROVIDE
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SOME INPUT INTO THESE PROJECTS.SO TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, WE PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL, WORKED BACK AND FORTH WITH STANTEC.
WE GOT A PROPOSAL FROM THEM WITH A WORK PROGRAM.
AND, UM, SO THE NEXT STEP IS THAT, UM, AND I CONTACTED, UH, DAVE
UM, AND LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF, UM, SHARING OF THE COST, UH, FOR, FOR THIS WORK.
BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS APPROACH IN GETTING A FIRM INVOLVED NOW IN, IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, A SHORTENED VERSION OF, OF A PLAN WOULD ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH MORE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING THIS WORK DONE PRIOR TO THESE PROJECTS GETTING DESIGNED.
AND WE FEEL THAT LOOKING AT THEM AS A WHOLE AND HOW THEY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY FURTHERED THE VISION FOR LADY'S ISLANDS WILL GO A LONG WAY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN AT THE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.
WE'RE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH STANTEC.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A HEAVY PROCUREMENT PROCESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ROB WAS THE, UM, THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE WORK THAT WE HAD PRODUCED, UH, MAINLY MAINLY MIKE AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD PRODUCED EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
UH, WAS THAT WHAT WAS USED TO GENERATE THE, I GUESS THE SCOPE OF THE PROPOSAL WAS STANTEC.
UM, WE DID ABBREVIATE A FEW THINGS.
UM, THERE'S AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE DIFFERENCE JUST TO GIVE A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW, WHAT WE ENVISIONED IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE PLANNERS AND DESIGNERS GET INVOLVED AT THIS POINT TO LOOK AT THE VISION FOR LADY'S ISLAND TO ANALYZE EACH OF THESE PROJECTS AND SEE HOW THEY FIT WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANS FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW THEY CONNECT THE, THE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ASSETS LIKE WHITE HALL PARK AND CRYSTAL LAKE PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN FURTHER OUR REDEVELOPMENT VISION.
SO THERE'LL BE DOING ALL THAT.
AND ALSO IT WILL POINT TO WHETHER THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY PROJECTS THAT WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ANOTHER THING IS THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT THAT THE 1 CENT SALES TAX MONEY THAT IS GOING TOWARD THE SEA ISLAND PARKWAY AND IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT NEARLY BE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO FUND WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THAT CORRIDOR.
SO THIS'LL GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING SHAPE THE VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DONE ON THAT CORRIDOR AND COULD SET US UP FOR FUTURE FUNDING SOURCES.
UM, I GUESS THAT THE, THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING WITH THIS PROJECT, THE ORIGINAL VILLAGE CENTER MASTER PLAN, I THINK, UM, HAD SOME VERY DETAILED REDEVELOPMENTS PROPOSALS FOR SOME SPECIFIC SITES.
I THINK WE, WE LOOKED AT THE MARINA PROPERTY, THE LATEST ISLAND SHOPPING CENTER, THE, UH, THE GRAVES PROPERTY.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS GETTING IN TO GREAT DETAIL THOSE AREAS, ALTHOUGH WE WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO ENGAGE THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT COMING UP WITH, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUAL REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS FOR THEM ROBIN.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT WON'T GET INTO THE, INTO THE WEEDS ON SPECIFIC PARCELS, BUT HOW ABOUT THE ZONING ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT THAT'S NOT A MAJOR FOCUS OF THIS? I THINK WE'LL, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A, I GUESS A, UM, IF WE SEE A, A REGULATORY BARRIER TO FURTHERING THE VISION, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE LAKESIDE AND CORRIDOR, I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED.
I THINK THAT REALLY WE HAVE WITHIN OUR LOCAL CAPABILITIES, WE ALREADY HAVE A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT SUPPORTS THE VISION.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IDENTIFYING WHERE THERE IS INCONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD OR WHERE IT COULD BE IMPROVED, BUT, UM, THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY A FOCUS OF THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS OUR TASK FORCE TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES AS WE NECESSARY.
YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM STANTEC THAT HAS THE SCOPE AND THE COST THAT YOU COULD SEND OVER TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW.
UM, I, I SENT DAVID A COPY EARLIER THIS WEEK AND THANK YOU.
UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL YEAH, THE MAYOR ROB WANTED TO MEET WITH BILL AND SO WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY AND HE SENT OVER AND WE CAN GET
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THAT FORWARDED TO YOU AS WELL.I MEAN, I, I I'LL BE CANDID AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ZONING TO KIND OF TAKING A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE CORRIDOR, UH, AND REALLY A VILLAGE MASTER PLAN EXERCISE, I THINK WAS THE, WAS THE GOAL.
AND FROM THE BRIEF DESCRIPTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, WHETHER THAT'S VEHICLE OR A PEDESTRIAN OR BIKE PLANNING, UM, WHICH NO DOUBT IS VALUABLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, ONCE AGAIN, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH IN, IN OUR PLANNING EFFORTS.
UM, AND SO I KNOW WE KEEP KIND OF PIECEMEALING THIS THING, WHEN DID, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE, BUT I THINK THAT THE TIMING IS SO CRUCIAL.
WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW OF TIME TO REALLY DO SOME PLANNING IN FRONT OF THESE PROJECTS, GETTING TOO FAR ALONG IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.
AND IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE CAN PROCURE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, NEXT, YOU KNOW, AFTER NEXT FISCAL YEAR GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WRITE A CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO BE INTO THE FALL.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD AND NOT DELAY.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION THAT MAYBE WE'RE GETTING 75% OF WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HOPED FOR.
AND THE, WITH THE TIMING ISSUE THAT TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND HAVING A FIRM INVOLVED WITH THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A THIRD PARTY COMING IN W YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING COMMUNITY VISION, HOPING SOMEBODY ELSE WILL CARRY THE TORCH.
YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE THE SAME FROM AND FALL INTO THE DESIGN.
I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS, TO ME ADD A LOT OF VALUE TO THIS THAT, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE IF WE WAITED FOR A LONGER PROCESS.
YEAH, NO, ROBIN, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, APPRECIATE THE TIMING OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT IN THIS FORUM, A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT IT'S INCUMBENT ON THIS GROUP AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY TO GET AHEAD OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FAIR TO HOLD THOSE UP.
UM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE BEEN SORT OF SCREAMING FOR A MASTER PLAN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF BACKED OURSELVES INTO THIS, INTO THIS CORNER.
SO I'LL WITHHOLD JUDGMENT UNTIL I SEE THE ACTUAL SCOPE AND THE COST INVOLVED.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT MY INITIAL, MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS I HAVE SOME PRETTY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY PASSIVE RESERVATIONS.
AND I THINK WHEN ROB PRESENTED THIS TO THE TASK FORCE LAST MEETING, UH, OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION, UH, ABOUT PRICING AND THINGS, BUT, UH, IT IT'S, UH, IT'S A FRAMEWORK.
UH, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A FRAMEWORK TO TRY AND NOT GET BEHIND WHAT THE ENGINEERS ARE DOING ON THE, UH, DIFFERENT ROADWAY, UH, PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY MOVING AHEAD MORE QUICKLY.
UH, BUT IT DOES NOT, IT'S NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A MASTER PLAN.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN, A CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO DO THAT WORK EFFORT.
AND IN FACT, UH, I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE THAT COULD BE A PARALLEL EFFORT TO THIS, UH, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AS IT GOES FORWARD WITH, UH, UH, THE COSTS INVOLVED WITH IT.
WELL, BEN, COULD THAT PROPOSAL BE SHARED WITH THIS GROUP SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DRIVING THE TRAIN? I MEAN, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TO HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR REVIEW.
I MEAN, WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE GROUP.
HOW DO YOU WANT US TO GET IT TOO? OH, KARA PIGEON.
I CAN SEND IT OVER TO THE EMAIL GROUP, YOU KNOW, WHO RECEIVED THE, THE MEETING INVITE.
IF I CAN JUST ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR YOU, BARRY, IS, IS YOUR CONCERN PRIMARILY THAT THE PLAN PLANNING COMPONENT OF STANTEC'S AND POTENTIAL EXPANDED SCOPE WOULD JUST BE TOO NARROW TOO? ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT HOW ROBUST THAT EXPANDED SCOPE IS GOING TO BE? YEAH, EXACTLY.
CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID BEFORE, I THINK THE LAND PLANNING IS, IS
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EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT.I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREENFIELD ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, BUT WE HAVE SOME GREENFIELD AND THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT ARE IN, YOU KNOW, NEAR THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR THE CITY, WE'VE GOT THE T FIVE UC ZONING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOWNGRADE TO T4 IN, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE EITHER.
SO I THINK MY HOPE AND HAVING A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNTY ZONING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW, THE ZONING AS IT STANDS TODAY, GETS US TO WHAT WE ENVISIONED.
SO, UM, LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION, LOOKING AT BETTER CONNECTIVITY IS CERTAINLY A VALUE, RIGHT? SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT, BUT I DO THINK HOW THAT TRANSPORTATION INTERACTS AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE LONG-TERM IN TERMS OF VISION OF HOW THAT CORRIDOR DEVELOPS IS THINGS REDEVELOPED, I THINK IS EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT.
ESPECIALLY AS TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS HAVE TO INTERFACE WITH THOSE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, MIKE'S GOT A GREAT PLAN THAT HE'S DRAWN OUT THAT SHOWS SOME BUILDINGS SHOW SOME PARKING LOTS, UM, THAT SHOWS THE CREATIVITY THAT COULD HAPPEN ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
UM, SO I, I'M GLAD WE'RE FOCUSING ON TRANSPORTATION, BUT I THINK THE LAND PLANNING FOR A VERY UNIQUE LADIES ISLAND SORT OF DOWNTOWN LADY'S ISLAND MIXED USE CORRIDOR IS NOT REFLECTED IN ANY OF OUR REGULATORY, THE DOCUMENTS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SORRY, I HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE CITY AND THEIR CIVIC MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE HAD THIS VISION FOR LADY'S ISLAND AS A WALKABLE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
I MEAN, I THAT'S, SO I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT REGULATORY TOOLS.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A PROPERLY DESIGNED ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO BRING BUILDINGS UP TO THE STREETS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE A FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND A CURB AND, AND HEAVILY MOVING TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAND USE COMPONENT IS IMPORTANT, BUT I FEEL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE CIVIC MASTER PLAN, THROUGH THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT OF ITS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU KNOW, IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN ALSO HAS A GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, INTO THAT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED.
I DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HIRE A FIRM AND HAVE THEM KIND OF REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THIS VISION FOR LADY'S ISLAND FOR A LONG TIME.
SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THE GREATEST IMPACT THAT WE COULD HAVE AT THIS POINT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THIS LEVEL OF INVESTMENT OF LATEST ISLAND THAT THEY'RE HAPPENING IN A WAY THAT FORWARDS THE VISION RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, CREATE SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE COMING IN AND SAYING, OH, I WISH WE WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, RE DESIGNED THIS DIFFERENTLY.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT'S IN GENERAL, WHY I, I THINK THE TIMING IS IMPORTANT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL THAT WE HAVE THE VISION, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS.
THEY MAY NOT BE PERFECTLY ALIGNED, BUT I THINK THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE CONVENTIONALS EARNING ON THE ISLANDS AND, AND, AND, AND WE WANT TO HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY THAT WE DO HAVE THE TRANSECTS ZONES, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE BUILDINGS TO COME UP TO THE ROAD.
I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY VISIONING.
UM, ALTHOUGH I MIGHT ARGUE IN THE CIVIC MASTER PLAN, WE PAID VERY LITTLE ATTENTION TO THE LADY'S ISLAND CORRIDOR.
IF YOU READ THROUGH THE PLAN, UH, THERE ARE SPECIFIC SECTIONS TO LADY'S ISLAND, BUT THEY'RE NOT NEARLY AS ROBUST AS OTHER AREAS OF THE, OF THE CITY.
UM, AS WELL, WE DO HAVE TRANSECT ZONING.
I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED T FIVE, THE FILLING STATION FOR EXAMPLE, IS T FIVE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A FIVE STORY MIXED USE OFFICE, COMMERCIAL HOTEL.
YOU KNOW, THE DOWNGRADE IS A T4 IN T4 NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING, WHICH, UH, SEVERELY LIMITS THE COMMERCIAL THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, T4 IS PROBABLY TOO, TOO LOW DENSITY TO HELP US ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT, BUT
SO I, THAT'S WHERE I PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT WHILE YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT OF VISIONING DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVEN'T ADEQUATELY TAKEN IN THOSE VISIONING DOCUMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK IS ALIGNED SO THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THAT PRODUCT LONGTERM.
SO SET THE PROPOSAL OVER, YOU KNOW, TAKE A CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL TAKE A VERY HARD, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE WORK.
WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THIS STUDY AND GOT THIS GOING SO WE CAN GET AHEAD
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OF TRAFFIC, BUT WE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FROM OUR VILLAGE CENTER PLAN AND, UH, TRYING TO ZERO IN ON IT.AND, UH, AND WE DO NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT AND WE REALLY DO STEVEN AND, UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE IT CAN BE FIT AND RIGHT NOW, AND, UH, WHILE THEY'RE DOING THIS TRAFFIC WORK AND STUDIES, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET, GET SOME OF OUR KEY SETS IN THERE.
SO LET'S GET A LOOK AT THE STUDY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT FOCUSING ON A VILLAGE CENTER.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOALS ARE THE SAME.
WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY, UH, FOCUSED ON THAT.
ALTHOUGH WE SEEN A LOT OF THEM OVER THE YEARS, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT WORKS WITH WHAT WE GOT TO DEAL WITH.
NOW, ACTUALLY I'LL ADD WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, I TALKED TO TOM DANIELS THIS WEEK.
WHO'S THE OWNER OF LADIES ON MARINO.
UM, HE'S VERY INTERESTED IN BEING INVOLVED, I GUESS, A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG THE CORRIDOR HAD BEEN IF IT'S SPEAKING, UH, AND THEY HAVE FORMED A KIND OF AN AD HOC GROUP AND MR. DANIEL HAS AGREED TO SERVE AS KIND OF THE, THE LEADER OF, OF THAT GROUP.
SO, UM, HOPE WILL KEEP THEM SORT OF ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
I KNOW WE WILL, UM, OVER, OVER THE COMING MONTHS.
UM, I MET WITH HIM THIS MORNING.
HE'S GOING TO MAINE, BUT HE'LL BE BACK AND I'LL, I'LL BRING HIM UP TO SPEED AND IT WE'LL WELCOME THAT INPUT FROM THEM.
AND MR. BUTLER LOVE IT IN MEREDITH AND NATE AND OUR GRADE AND A GRAM TRANSCRIPT.
SO IN THE MASS SALON, SO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE ON THAT GROUP AND HE CAN ADD THEM UP.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THAT, UH, I SEE THIS AS A TWO-STAGE EFFORT, THE FIRST ONE TO TRY AND STAY ABREAST OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROADWAY SYSTEMS, BUT ALSO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A, A CONSULTANT COME ON BOARD, UH, FOR DOING MASTER PLANNING AND ENGAGE WITH THE TASK FORCE FOR AS MUCH AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD ALREADY.
UM, UH, WE DON'T MEAN TO DO THE CONSULTANTS WORK FOR THEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, UH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UH, WE'LL BE STARTING TO ADDRESS ZONING ISSUES, UH, IN OUR NEXT TASK FORCE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL REPEAT MITES.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO A VILLAGE CENTER PLAN AND, UH, WE'LL GET PAST THE TRAFFIC STUDY RIGHT NOW.
UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON LADY'S ISLAND.
OF COURSE, I TALKED ABOUT WHITE HALL.
I'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO, UH, SAM LEVIN AND SEE WHAT HE'S GOT TO SAY.
UM, SINCE I'M GETTING IT THROUGH MICHAEL MARK, UH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
CAUSE WE'VE GOT A NEW PARK DOWN SAM'S POINT ROAD.
I'M THINKING THAT'S THE COUNTY DOING THAT? NOT THE CITY.
UM, RAIN HATE IS COMING ALONG.
I WAS UP IN THERE LOOKING AROUND.
IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, A VERY EXPENSIVE DEVELOPMENT TO BRING ON, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE NICE.
THEY'RE GOING TO PROTECT ALL THE TREES.
ALL THEY DID WAS CUT THE ROADS IN AND THERE'LL BE CLEAR AND LOTS OF INDIVIDUAL RATE LIKE WE DO IN MANY, UH, SUBDIVISIONS MENTAL ROAD WILL BE COMING ON.
UH, I THINK THAT'LL THAT'LL WARRANT, UH, UH, A CLOSE INSPECTION, CAUSE THEY'LL PROBABLY TRY TO CLEAR CUT ALL THE TREES.
AND, UH, I'LL, I'M KIND OF WATCHING THAT MYSELF.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONSULTANT STUDY THAT WAS IN MY COMMENTS.
SO WE'RE OVER THAT VILLAGE CENTER, DEVELOPING A PLAN.
YOU'VE COVERED THAT MR. MCMAHON, MARIE.
AND, UM, I SEE A LOT OF SURVEYORS ALL OVER THE PLACE, INCLUDING ON SUNSET.
I GOT A COUPLE OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THAT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE KNOW THE ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON, UH, DEVELOPING THEIR PLANS AND GETTING THEM GOING.
UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT'S REALLY NOT OUR JOB TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THAT, ONCE WE HAVE A SOLID PLAN, IT WILL REALLY HELP US, UH, GET A BETTER, BETTER PLAN FOR ALL OF LADIES ALL.
AND IF WE BRING THEM ONLINE AND LET THEM SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, UM, UH, I'VE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT WHERE THEY'VE GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH ME, JUST BECAUSE I THINK I STOOD UP AND HAD SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PENNY SALES TAX.
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THE FACT THAT THESE SHAREHOLDERS ON, UH, THE CORRIDOR ARE GETTING INVOLVED IS, IS ENCOURAGING BECAUSE THEY, WE DO WANT TO HAVE THEIR INPUT.AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO INVEST THE MONEY TO DEVELOP THESE PLANS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
SO I, UH, I THINK THAT'S POSITIVE MR. CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING IF I COULD.
UM, I REITERATED TO THE TASK FORCE AND I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
UM, THE, UH, THE MISSION OF THE TASK FORCE IS TO WORK ON THE LADY'S ISLAND, UH, VILLAGE CENTER PLAN.
AND IT IS NOT TO ENGAGE IN THE, UH, UH, THE ASPECT OF THE ENGINEERING THAT'S GOING ON WITH EITHER 21 OR THE ACCESS ROADS, AND THAT WE ARE INPUTTING INTO THE ENGINEERS AS TO WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR INFORMATION TO HELP DEVELOP, UH, THOSE ROADWAYS.
BUT WE ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN ANY WAY, UH, IN MAKING DECISIONS OR WITH THE ENGINEERS AND MAKING DECISIONS ON WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS ON 21 OR THE ACCESS ROADS.
I THINK IT'S, UH, IMPORTANT TO KEEP THOSE TWO, UH, TWO ISSUES, UH, COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND, UH, NOT GET INTO A MIX OF THOSE TWO.
WELL, I MET WITH TOM TODAY AND HERB THIS MORNING, BOTH OF THEM.
AND I SAID, LOOK, WE'RE SEPARATE FROM HERE'S THE, HERE'S SOME PRINTOUTS OF THE CORRIDORS AND STUFF THAT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I, I EMPHASIZE THAT WITH THEM TOO, AND I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START THEIR OWN LITTLE GROUP AND, AND DEAL WITH IT.
UH, I THINK THAT'S MORE BENEFICIAL TO THEM.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS OR COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY, THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON NEXT TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT SEEMS TO ME, IF I LOOKED AT THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE IN THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENT THAT WE APPROVED, UM, MOST THINGS ARE WELL UNDERWAY AND HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO EITHER THE CPC THAT JASON'S GETTING BACK ON TRACK AND HIGH FIVE AND JASON FOR DOING THAT, UM, OR COUNTY AND CITY STAFFS, UH, AND THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES ARE SORT OF MOVING ON THEIR OWN.
SO, UH, TO THAT POINT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR CONTINUED CHARGE WILL BE.
UM, AND SO WE'D LIKE TO PLANT THE SEEDS SINCE IT IS APRIL AND THE MONTH THAT HOSTS ARBOR DAY, UM, PLANT A SEED THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
THIS WAS A TASK FORCE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STOOD UP FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE.
AND AT THE END OF THAT PURPOSE WOULD STAND DOWN AND RESPONSIBILITY WOULD TRANSFER BACK TO THE NORTHERN REGIONAL IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE.
UM, I KNOW WE APPROVED A MANDATE FOR THE LADIES ISLAND VILLAGE MASTER PLAN, AND MAYBE THAT COMMITTEE TRANSFERS TO NEUROBICS THAT'S, UH, MIKE TOLD ME HE'S ALSO THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT I KNOW ALL OF US PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE LAST MEETING TO GO TO EVERY MONTH.
UM, SO I JUST THROW IT OUT THERE FOR THOUGHT, NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT MAYBE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS COME TO CONCLUSION, UH, WE CAN PUT OUR MISSION ACCOMPLISHED FLAG IN THE GROUND AND, UM, GO BACK TO OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY, MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE GETTING ADDRESSED.
WE CAN GIVE IT A LITTLE WHILE LONGER AND LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.
IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING AND FREE UP PEOPLE'S TIME TO FOCUS ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL, JUST TO RESPOND TO YOU, MARY MAYOR, UH, UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE ARE ALSO ON THE TASK FORCE AND, AND HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ATTENDING THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS.
SO, UH, UH, IT'S ALMOST A DUAL PHASE, UH, COMMITTEE.
UH, AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, COULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
THANKS, MIKE, THAT THAT RARELY HAPPENS.