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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THE COUNTY COUNCIL CAUCUS MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE.AS I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE RESPOND THAT YOU ARE HERE.
UH, PRESENT COUNCILMAN DAWSON HERE.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER HERE, HERE, COUNCILMAN
I BELIEVE HE IS NOT ATTENDING THIS EVENING AND I AM HERE.
THEREFORE 10 OF US ARE PRESENT.
WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE, YOUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE, WHICH WILL BE CONDUCTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, GERALD DAWSON.
YOU CONTROL THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
UM, PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT WILL A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
OFFER A MOTION AND SECOND TO A COUNTY COUNCIL CAUCUS AGENDA.SO I'LL MOVE AS TO CHAIRMAN STAIR.
THIS IS GOING TO COST A SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS PATIENTS SEEING NONE? UM, ALL MEMBERS ARE ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS, NONE WERE VIEWED.
THEREFORE THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, UH, UPDATES.
[5. DISCUSSION OF MINOR AND NECESSARY AMENDMENT TO LEASE OF 15 HAIG POINT ROAD, DAUFUSKIE ISLAND (MARSHSIDE MAMA’S)]
OKAY.ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION OF A MINOR AND NECESSARY AMENDMENT.
THE LEAST OF THE 15 POINT BUSKEY ISLAND KNOWN AS MARSH MARSH, MARSH SIDE COMMAS.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO MR. KEVIN OR MR. TAYLOR TO TELL US WHY I'LL TAKE IT.
UM, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CLASSMATES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN I THANK YOU.
SO THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS, UM, ARE BOTH ITEMS ON THEIR FACE, UM, COULD POSSIBLY FALL INTO THE EMPLOYEE EXCEPTION, UH, UM, SOMETHING THAT TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
HOWEVER, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO IS TO PUT BOTH OF THEM, UM, ON THE UNBLOCK AGENDA, UM, AND TO RATHER THAN TO PUT THEM IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TO SEE WHERE THE DISCUSSION GOES.
AND IF THE DISCUSSION BECOMES ONE THAT WE THINK, UM, WARRANT GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I'LL NOTIFY COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION, TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF THEY'D LIKE TO TURNING FIRST YOU TO THE, UM, TURNING FIRST TO THE HEY LINCOLN MATTER, THE COUNCIL, THEY RECALL.
AND I THINK I PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION TO COUNSEL AND INDICATE IN 2018, UH, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED ACCOUNTING TO ENTER INTO A LEASE, UM, WITH, UH, A TENANT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, LLC, UM, FOR THE LISA, UH, RESTAURANT THAT HAD BEEN KNOWN AS MORE SIDE MOMMAS IN THE GENERAL STORE.
UM, THE COMPANY HAS UNDERTAKEN THE REPAIRS NECESSARY TO OPEN UP THE RESTAURANT AND THE GENERAL STORE.
UM, WE LEARNED WHAT WE LEARNED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DURING THE LAST WEEK THAT, UM, THE COMPANY, UH, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OPEN UP A RESTAURANT UNDER THE NAME OF MARSEILLE, THE HISTORIC THING OF MARSEILLES NORMALS, UM, BECAUSE THE, UM, PRI PREVIOUS, UH, TENANT, UH, VET CHIPMAN HAS HAPPY WRITTEN THE NAME OR TRADEMARK THE NAME, THINKING SOME ACTIONS THAT PREVENTS, UM, THE TENANT FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, SO THE TENANT WOULD LIKE TO RENAME THE, UH, RESTAURANT TO CALL UP.
WE CALL THEM THE FIRSTIES, UM, AS WE'VE LISTED HERE ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AND, UM, OF COURSE WE, BECAUSE JUST AS A MATTER OF THE KING FOR COUNCIL, UM, AND IT'S AN INTEREST AND IT'S A MATTER THAT COULD BE A PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC ART.
WE BELIEVED IT WAS PRUDENT, UM, TO BRING THIS BEFORE COUNCIL FOR, UM, AUTHORIZATION FOR THE TENANT,
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UM, TO CHANGE THE NAME AND FOR US TO, UM, MODIFY THE LEASE OR AMEND THE LEASE AS I HAVE PROVIDED COUNSEL, THE ONLY PORTION OF THE LEASE THAT WOULD BE AMENDED IS SECTION SIX.SO AS TO ALLOW THE COMPANY TO GO UNDER THE NAME OF, UH, THE FIRST GREASE, RATHER THAN MARSEILLES MAMAS, UM, WE HAVE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY WITH US, I BELIEVE ONLINE.
I SEE HIM THERE, UM, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY.
I SEE NO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEREFORE YOU WILL PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'LL NEED FURTHER COUNCIL ACTION ON THIS? WE THINK THIS IS A MINOR, VERY MINOR AMENDMENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO, UH, WE DON'T NEED ANY MEN ON AN AMENDED ORDINANCE OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF THING, WHICH IS ONE OF WHILE WE'RE ON IT, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO JUST MENTION TO COUNCIL.
OFTENTIMES WHEN WE BRING FLOATED ORDINANCES OR LEASES AND CONTRACTS AND WHATNOT, WE'RE PUTTING IN THOSE PROPOSED ORDINANCES, UH, LANGUAGE THAT SAYS A LEASE OR A CONTRACT SUBSTANTIALLY IN SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM OF THE LEASE OR CONTRACT ATTACHED.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THESE LITTLE CHANGES, WE DON'T NEED TO AMEND THE WHOLE ORDINANCE AND GO THROUGH THAT IN AN INVOLVED PROCESS.
AND WE WANTED EVERYBODY OF EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO KNOW ABOUT THIS CHANGE AND TO GET THEIR BLESSING ON IT BEFORE WE AUTHORIZED THEM.
[6. LITIGATION UPDATE REGARDING BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL]
SIX, WHICH IS THE LITIGATION UPDATE REGARDING NEWFORD MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHEN B FROM MEMORIAL HOSPITAL INITIALLY FILED THEIR SUMMONS, IF SOME OF THAT COULD FIND AGAINST THE COUNTY, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE APPOINTMENT OR REINSTATEMENT OF KATHY COOPER TO THE BOARD, UM, THE HOSPITAL, THE RELEASE AT THE HOSPITAL LAST FLOOR WAS AN INJUNCTION AND A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT, UM, WITH REGARD TO PUTTING HER ON REINSTATING HER ON THE BOARD, UM, WHEN COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO BE IN STATER, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY RESULT IN, UM, THE HOSPITAL DISMISSING NEW SUIT, IF IT DID NOT, IT CHOSE INSTEAD, UM, TO AMEND THE COMPLAINT, UH, TO ENJOIN JOIN THE, UH, TO ENJOIN THE COUNTY COUNCIL FROM, UH, REINSTATING ANY BOARD MEMBER, UM, WHO RESIGNS, UM, AND WHO DOES SO, AND THEN PREVENT THE COUNTY FROM DOING SO WITHOUT A NOMINATION PROCESS FROM THE HOSPITAL.
AND ALSO IT NOW SEEKS AN INJUNCTION TO ENJOIN COUNTY COUNCIL FROM, UM, AMENDING YOUR TONE, UM, ORDINANCE, UM, PURSUANT TO THE LAST SECTION OF OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE.
SO I JUST WANTED COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THE LAWSUIT DID NOT GO AWAY BY VIRTUE OF COUNCIL'S DECISION, NOT TO REINSTATE MS. COOPER.
UM, AND I WANT TO PULL THAT COUNCIL KNOW THAT YOU RETAINED COUNSEL TO REPRESENT US.
UM, AND THAT IS THE LAW FIRM OF TO MAKE A LOOP AND KENDRA AND CHARLESTON LAWYERS, WE RETAINED SPECIALIZE IN THIS KIND OF WORK.
AND SO WE WILL BE, UM, WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL, MR. HARVEY SHINE, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I ASKED THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE LOSS WOULD GO AWAY IF WE TOOK THAT ACTION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE RESPONSE WAS, IT WOULD THEN BE MOVED.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MADE IT NOT MOVE WELL.
IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE MATERIALS THAT I'VE PROVIDED, UM, IN MY BACK OF THE APPEAL, WE'LL SEE THAT THE, UM, UH, HOSPITAL AMENDED COMPLAINT, UM, SO THAT, UM, IT REFERRED TO SOME CONVERSATION THAT MR. SOMERVILLE, SOME DISCUSSION THAT MR. SUMMERVILLE, UH, MADE REGARDING AN EFFORT OR AN INTEREST IN REVISITING OUR ORDINANCE.
AND SO WHILE THE ISSUE IS ALL THE ISSUE ABOUT PUTTING MS. COOPER BACK ON THE BOARD, HIS MOOD, UM, THE, UM, UH, DISCUSSION OF AMENDING OUR ORDINANCE IS NOT.
SO THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO AMEND THEIR COMPLAINT TO DO CERTAIN THAT THAT ISSUE WORK TO ACTUALLY ADD A NEW ISSUE INTO THE LAWSUIT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DO.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CHRIS? YEAH, IT DOES.
OKAY, MR. GLOVER, YOU WERE NEXT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, I, UM, I APPRECIATE THE HOSPITAL GOING FORWARD WITH THIS LAWSUIT TO BE TRUTHFUL.
UM, I THINK ALL OF US NEEDS TO COME OUT IN A YEAR, UM, AND TO DETERMINE WHO
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BASICALLY IS ON FIRST BASE.UM, I THINK, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE HOSPITAL WILL EXPECT US TO JUST RATIFY WHATEVER THEY, SO LEG WITHOUT, UM, ANY REGARDS AT ALL.
UM, SO IF THERE'S ONE POSITION, THEY SAID ONE CANDIDATE, UM, IT WAS TO THIS END TOO, AND IT'S JUST, I THINK, UM, UM, THE PAUL SOMERVILLE BASICALLY SAID THEY SHOULD SEND US THESE, UH, A SELECTION THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM.
SO I THINK PERSONALLY, I'M GLAD THEY DECIDED TO GO FORWARD SO WE CAN GET ALL THIS BEHIND US.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD QUICK COMMENT, MS. HOWARD, AND THEN, UM, MR.
I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN GLOVER SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
DID YOUR DOG STOP BARKING? OKAY, MR.
I THINK THAT THIS IS A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, UM, BECAUSE UNTIL WE'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY OBJECT TO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CLAIM TO THIS LAWSUIT AND I HOPE THAT WE COUNTER AND SUE FOR OUR ATTORNEY COSTS.
MR. CUNNINGHAM, YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF A TIMEFRAME ON WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD, SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WE HAVE ON OUR END.
UM, SO, UM, PRIOR TO COVID, UM, MOST CASES WERE DISPOSED OF WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF BEING FIVE.
UM, THERE'S YOU CAN IMAGINE A SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG, UM, IN CASELOAD.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE LEGAL ADVICE STUFF, HONESTLY, BUT I DON'T THINK YOUR QUESTION GETS US THERE YET.
UM, SO NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, ANY TIME ANYTIME LONG, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOW I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE AND I CAN TALK TO YOU.
ONE-ON-ONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO, AFTER THAT, CAN I ASK ONE MORE THING? AND IF YOU TELL ME WE NEED TO WAIT, WE CAN WAIT.
SO WOULD I BE WRONG IN SAYING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MR. SUMMERSVILLE SUGGESTION? I'M REVISITING THE ORDINANCE UNTIL ANY OF THAT STUFF IS RESOLVED.
YOU WOULD NOT BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S, AS FAR AS I WANT TO GO WITH IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
SO THIS IS STILL A STEW FOR SOME OF YOU THAT DON'T SHOW UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT WELL, YOU'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SCREEN IS SET UP RIGHT NOW, I HAVE IT IN A GRID VIEW SO THAT I CAN SEE ALL COUNCIL PEOPLE, THOSE THAT ARE IN CHAMBER, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, I SEE LOGAN AND CHRIS SEPARATELY, I DID NOT SEE YOU SEPARATELY.
UH, I AGREE WITH BRIAN IT'S, IT'S FRIVOLOUS.
SECONDLY, WE SHOULD SUE FOR THE, UH, UH, LEGAL FEES AND, AND THIRDLY, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD FAIRLY QUICKLY ON RE REVISITING THE ORDINANCE.
LET ME ADDRESS THE LEGAL FEES, UH, STUFF.
UM, THE AMERICAN RULE IS THAT YOU DON'T GET LEGAL FEES, ABSENT THE STATUTE TO THAT EFFECT OR CONTRACT THAT PROVIDES, I MEAN, EVEN IN, EVEN IN THEIR OWN COMPLAINT, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THEIR PRAYER, THEY ASK FOR LEGAL FEES.
THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DO, BUT YOU DON'T GET THEM UNLESS THERE'S A STATUTE OR YOU HAVE A CONTRACT THAT REQUIRES YOU OR ALLOWS YOU TO DO EXCUSE ME.
OKAY, WELL, OR, OR, OR, OR UNDER THE FRIVOLOUS PROCEEDINGS, THAT ACT, YOU CAN GET ATTORNEY'S FEES, BUT YOU CAN'T, AND THAT'S A SEPARATE ACTION THAT IS FILED STAFFS, OR THE UNDERLYING ACTION GOES FORWARD.
AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET.
I MEAN, VERY, VERY, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT.
EVERY CLIENT I REPRESENTED IN OUR, PROBABLY EVERY CLIENT I REPRESENTED IN 30 YEARS OF LITIGATING ALWAYS WANTED THEIR ATTORNEY'S FEES.
WELL THEN, THEN ALSO, I GUESS, A COROLLARY TO THAT THEN IS OUR INSURANCE COVERING UPSCALING, SORRY.
OUR INSURANCE, UM, WELL, WHAT OUR PREPAID LEGAL WILL COVER US FOR 80% OF IT.
I DON'T THINK WE WOULD QUALIFY THEM TO COME FOR COVERAGE UNDER OUR, UM, PORT POLICY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PERSONAL INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE, BUT BY VIRTUE OF OUR PREPAID LEGAL PROGRAM, WHICH I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M VERY HAPPY WITH.
AND KURT AND I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH RISK MANAGEMENT FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.
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THANK YOU.ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THESE MATTER? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE'RE NOW READY TO
[7. AGENDA REVIEW]
DISCUSS THE AGENDA.UM, I ASSUME EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA.
UH, IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WE DO HAVE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE, UH, UM, SIX ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE ACTION AGENDA.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR CHANGES THAT SOMEONE WOULD BE WANTING TO MAKE WITH ANY COUNCIL AGENDA? UM, MR. RODMAN, YOU WERE FIRST.
SO ITEM NUMBER 12 THAT WE HAVE IS THE SOLID WASTE FEE.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH COMMITTEE.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS IN FAVOR OF IT UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, BUT THEN THE ISSUE CAME UP ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN SOMETHING THAT'S CLASSIFIED AS COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY REALLY LOOK LIKE RESIDENTIAL.
AND, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT KURT HAS COME UP WITH A WAY, UH, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS BY ESSENTIALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SO-CALLED DWELLINGS, UH, CAN PETITION TO BE INCLUDED, UM, AS IF THEY WERE A RESIDENCE.
UH, SO I THINK THAT PROBLEM IS BEING RESOLVED.
UH, THERE'S ONE OR TWO OTHER POSSIBLE ADDITIONS TO IT.
UH, ONE IS THE, UH, SOMEBODY THAT SAID, LET'S SAY A SOLE PROPRIETOR WHO HAS AN OFFICE, BUT IT REALLY LOOKS MORE LIKE A RESIDENCE IN TERMS OF THE, HAVING HIS, UH, UH, TRASH PICKED UP ANOTHER BABY.
UH, SOME OF THE FIVE OH ONE C3 IS, UM, WHO USED TO NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING.
NOW WE'RE INCORPORATED UNDER THERE.
SO READING FOR SAYING ALL OF THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO RUN THROUGH IT IN GREAT DETAIL, UH, THIS AFTERNOON, BUT I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT EVERYBODY WANTED.
UM, AND THAT THERE MAY BE A COUPLE FINANCIAL ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TIDY UP BEFORE SECOND READING.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S THE KIND OF WHERE, WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE MOVE IT FORWARD.
UH, JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THIS NAILED DOWN AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, UH, I'M SORRY, WAS IT, UM, GERALD, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.
UH, STU AND I HAD THE SAME, UM, ITEM THAT WE WANT TO PULL THEM DISCUSS.
UM, MINE IS MORE OR LESS ALONG THE FEE STRUCTURE AND THEY ARE THE, UM, ANNUAL FEE FOR THE, FOR THE ENTERPRISE.
THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA.
IT IS ON AS AN AB PUBLIC HEARING ACTION ITEM.
SO THEREFORE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT IN DETAIL.
SO AT THAT TIME YOU WILL GET TO RAISE YOUR ISSUE, UH, WHICH IS A VALID ONE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE, UM, FINALIZATION OF THE FEE, WHO IT AFFECTS, UH, HOW WILL IT AFFECT THE MILLAGE AND MOVING IT OVER TO A FEE.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE TAKING THE LOOK AT THE SCREEN, YOU WILL SEE, SEE THAT I NOW CAN SEE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
SO WHEN WE TAKE VOTES, I DON'T HAVE TO DO A OLD CALL.
UM, I CAN HAVE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, AND BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF IN FACT WE ARE UNANIMOUS OR, UH, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, PEOPLE VOTING OR NOT RAISING THEIR HAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THIS IS WORKING OUT MUCH BETTER.
[8. NEW BUSINESS]
ANY NEW BUSINESS.IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS NEEDS TO COME BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND UNDER NEW BUSINESS, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, WE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WHERE SOMETHING TO COME UP IN THE FUTURE, NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE AGENDA OR, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, MR. GLOVER, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, PUT BEFORE US AGAIN, UM, THE RETIREES AND TRYING TO AT LEAST COME TO SOME RESOLUTION WITH THE REMAINING RETIREES.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE HANDLED, UM, UH, QUICKLY, UM, ON THE NEXT DAY,
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UM, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AGENDA, GIVING ENOUGH TIME TO GO THROUGH IT.THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UM, COME TO GRIPS WITH, BECAUSE IF THERE IS A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION IN THERE, WE NEED TO HAVE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.
UH, AND THE OTHER PERSON HAVE SOMETHING, MR. DAWES.
UM, MS. CHAIRMAN, I, UM, I, I READ IN, UH, ERIC GREENWAY, THE ANTRUM COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, A WEEKLY REPORT, UH, THAT HE WAS POSTING A POSITION FOR THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, ADMINISTRATION, UH, POSITION.
AND, UH, I CALLED HIM AND WE HAD A WEEK DISCUSSION.
AND SO I, UM, I, UH, I KNOW ERIC IS HERE TODAY, SO I, I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION OF THE QUESTION I ASKED ERIC IS, UM, UM, WHY ARE WE, UM, POSTING, UM, THE, UH, POSITION FOR THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR? AND THEN HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT, UM, COUNSEL, UH, ASKED HIM TO, UH, POST THE POSITION BECAUSE OF SOME DISSATISFACTION.
AND MY, MY COMMENT ERIC WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER CONSTABLE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
AND SO WE, WE HAD, UH, IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ISSUE, AND I THOUGHT I'D JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.
DOES ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WISH TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? UM, OURS IS NOT, UM, IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT EMPLOYEES THAT HE OVERSEES.
SO, UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL HAS WEIGHED IN ON THAT, MR. HARVEY SHINE.
I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE GOT SOME CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE WHAT I JUST HEARD WAS THAT COUNCIL GAVE THE DIRECTIVE.
UM, CLEARLY THERE'S ON COUNCIL ON THE CALL AND THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.
UM, MR. GREENWAY, CAN YOU RESPOND? I'M OPPOSED TO RESPONDING TO THAT? ACTUALLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER A PERSONNEL AND IT SHOULD BE SCOTT, BECAUSE YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS, YOU SHOULD MAKE A MOTION, THE AGENDA DISCUSSION.
CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION AT LEAST ON WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL GAVE THAT DIRECTIVE? YOU ALSO HAVE TO TALK TO YOU IN ANY KIND OF OFFICIAL, CORRECT.
ERIC, PLEASE REMOVE YOUR MASK.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU IN, UNLESS YOU HAVE THEM.
THAT'S GIVEN ME NO VISUAL DIRECTION TO DO ANYTHING RELATED TO PERSONNEL.
WHAT ABOUT COUNCIL HAS GIVEN ME NO DIRECTION? DO YOU MEAN ANY PERSONNEL? I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD YOU REPEAT? HE SAID, COUNCIL AID HIM NO DIRECTION ABOUT PERSONNEL AREA, WHICH IS NOT OUR PURVIEW.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT REPORT DIRECTLY TO US, AND THAT IS OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND OUR CLERK, THE COUNCIL.
THOSE ARE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WE DIRECTLY SUPERVISED.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS SUPERVISED BY THE COUNTY.
UM, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, MS. SHERMAN SURE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UM, IF WAS A PERSONNEL MATTER, THAT SHOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT, UM, I WAS ON THE IMPRESSION THAT, UM, UM, YOU SORT OF LOCK YOUR, UM, YOUR, YOUR ADMINISTRATOR AND YOUR DEPUTY SORT OF TOGETHER.
UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE, BUT IT SEEMS IF YOU ASSUMING A DEPUTY'S, UH, ADMINISTRATOR, BUT YOU HAVE AN INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR THE SAME, THAT THAT'S DOESN'T FIT WELL, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT DOES JUST ME TALKING TO THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I SEE.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
GOING TO ASK FOR A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEMS NINE AND 10.AND I HAVE SUCH A MOTION PLEASE.
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UM, OH, MARGARET, THE CHAIRMAN, MR. MCKELLAN MAKES THE MOTION.AND MR. LAWSON MAKES THE SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. RODMAN? YEAH, I THOUGHT WE HAD AGREED TO POSTPONE NUMBER NINE BECAUSE IT BASICALLY IN PAUL'S BAILEY WORK AND HE IS NOT WITH US.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT HE IS GOING TO JOIN US.
UM, SO THAT ITEM MAY NOT BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ALL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE EMOTION TO ONLY INCLUDE ITEM NUMBER 10.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? I'LL SECOND.
UH, MR. HARVEY, SEAN WILL SECOND THAT, I'M SORRY, MR. CUNNINGHAM.
WE HAVE A DULY MOTION AND SECOND TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA, NOT TO INCLUDE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE AND ONLY DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 10, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT.
NOW WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT CHAIRMAN.
UH, MR. SOMERVILLE HAS MOST OF THE INFORMATION REGARDING THIS AND HE IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
AND WHEN WOULD WE DISCUSS IT THEN? UM, UH, AT THE, UM, NEXT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED WITH THE IDEA OF MOVING IT FORWARD AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND HE FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION.
WILL YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND? OKAY.
UM, MR. HERBERT, SHAWN, DID YOU VOTE? OKAY.
THEN WE ARE UNANIMOUS THAT, UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE WILL BE REMOVED AND ITEM NUMBER 10 WILL BE THE ONLY ONE WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS.
SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, UM, UH, AND, UM, THAT SUPERSEDES THE MOTION.
AND SECOND NOW IS FOR US TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO, UM, DEAL WITH ITEM.
NUMBER 10 ONLY MR. FOOTBALLING MAKES THE MOTION.
AND, UM, MR. MCKELLEN, YOU MADE THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION, SEEING NO DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO INTO ALL RIGHT.
UM, YOU HAVE COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM SECULAR SESSION.
THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR FINAL ITEM BEFORE WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING, AND THAT WOULD BE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN COUNCIL, CHAMBERS OR ONLINE THAT WISHES TO MAKE A CITIZEN COMMENT? THERE IS NONE.
THEREFORE ALL BUSINESS COMING BEFORE US HAS BEEN TAKEN TARIFF AND THE COUNTY CAUCUS WILL ADJOURN AT 5:46 PM.
AND WE WILL RESUME AT SIX O'CLOCK.