Mar 01, 2021 Planning Commission

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GOT TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED . SO CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER WELL EVERYBODY PLEASE JOIN ME AND DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE STAND

BESIDE IT. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OK, THANK YOU. N SENT I

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 1, 2021 ]

SAW MYSELF ON LINE. >> WE HAVE NOW THE APPROVAL OF A MILITARY CAREER WITH FIRST DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES I AM HEARING NONE.

>> CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AND MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES?

>> OK, FRANK, THANK YOU. >> SECOND CAROLINE THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE

YOUR HAND. >> OK, EMOTION PASSES AS YOU'RE ACCEPTED, OK?

[5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GUESTS HERE AND I KNOW THEY'RE AND I'LL GET ON AND TALK ABOUT THIS RATHER EXTENSIVE PLAN AS A FIRST STEP TOWARD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLETION PROCESS. SO IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS ANYBODY HAVING WITH THAT IS IT

WOULD SEEM OK? >> YES. OK.

I JUST WANT TO AGAIN GO OVER A FEW PROTOCOL THINGS FOR WEBEX JUST SO WE CAN REMIND OURSELVES HOW TO GET THE BEST OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. RIPLEY'S REMAIN MUTED UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK RAISE YOUR HAND AND WAIT FOR THE OTHER PERSON TO STOP SPEAKING BEFORE YOU SPEAK THAT WILL CUT BACK TO THE CROSS TALK AND THE BACKGROUND NOISE

AS BEST WE CAN. >> OK, ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA ? OK.

NOT HEARING ANYTHING I'M ASSUMING THE APPROVAL THE AGENDA WILL GO FORWARD WITH.

>> LET'S START BY ASKING FOR ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS OF A ON AN ITEM NOT RELATED TO THE ACTION ITEMS ON AN ITEM NOT RELATED TO THE ACTION ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ROB OR

NOAH? >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMMENTS AT THIS POINT THAT I

[9. 2020 Greenprint Plan – A plan that serves as a decision-making tool for the Rural and Critical Lands Preservation Program. ]

HAVE EITHER. >> OK. >> DURING YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR MEETING AGENDA ACTION ITEMS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE BEEN ASKED AND AGREED TO PUT A 20 20 GREENPOINT PLAN DISCUSSION AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. SO ROB NOAH WHO'S UP TO KICK OFF THAT DISCUSSION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THIS PROJECT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT AWARE, THE GREEN PRINCE IS A PLAN THAT PRIMARILY IS USED AS A TOOL TO GOVERN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

SO IT'S ONE THAT PRIORITIZES LAND ACROSS THE COUNTY. IT INVOLVES PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON WHAT TYPES OF RESOURCES THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT AND VIEW FOR COUNTY WHAT PARTS OF THE COUNTY THEY FEEL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEVOTE NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION. THIS IS A PLAN THAT WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ITERATIONS. SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS YEAR IS THAT FOR ONE THING THE CONSULTANT WHO IS DURING OUR PLAN IS DESIGN OR WORKSHOP AND THEY ARE THE SAME ONES WHO ARE DOING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD MATCH BECAUSE REALLY THE IN CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PROGRAM IS ONE TOOL IN THE TOOL BLOCK TOOLBOX FOR A LARGE KIND OF LAND USE POLICY ACROSS BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND SO I THINK THIS TIME WITH

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I THINK IT'S SET TO IT ANYWAY BUT I'LL JUST MOVE THE PRESENTING LADY.

WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANT. I CAN.

YEAH. HERE SHE COMES. THANKS FOR HAVING US.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS BEFORE AND PROBABLY PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IT. AND ARE PROUD OF THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES DOWN THERE WITH CITIZENS WHO HAVE CONCERNS. WE HAD GREAT IT EVEN WITH THIS TIME OF CODE.

WE HAD A REALLY GOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT BROUGHT I THINK NINE HUNDRED PEOPLE AT ONE POINT TO THE SURVEYS THAT WE HAD ON OUR ON OUR ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

WE HAVE HAD GREAT REVIEWS WITH ROB AND HIS STAFF AND HAVE ALSO REVIEWED THIS A COUPLE TIMES WITH THE RURAL CRITICAL LAND PRESERVATION PROGRAM TO GET THEIR INPUT.

SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS. AS AN ASIDE WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE EXCITED TO BE SUBMITTING IT SOON FOR AN AWARD. WE FEEL THAT STRONGLY ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF A PLAN OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND ITS INFLUENCE OVER NOT ONLY WHICH LANDS YOU FOCUS ON FOR PRESERVATION CONTINUED CONTINUING THAT LEGACY THAT YOU HAVE THERE BUT ALSO HOW IT DIRECTLY INFORMS LAND USE DECISIONS WITHIN THE PLAN LIKE ROB SUGGESTED AND WE REALLY FEEL LIKE BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS DONE SOMETHING HERE THAT IS IS PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT CLEAR OF A LINKAGE BETWEEN YOU KNOW, PRESERVATION AND AND AND FUTURE LAND USE AND GROWTH IN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LINDSEY AND SHE CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN ARE YOU THERE?

>> SHE'S MUTED. WE UNUSED. LINDSEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. THAT WAS MY FAULT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I WAS MUTED. I WAS JUST SAYING I THINK I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE HAD ACCESS TO DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY, GIVE KIND OF A BRIEF HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND THEN LEAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE MOVE SORT OF SLOWLY THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS STOPPED ME AT ANY POINT IF YOU ALL WANT TO STOP IT AND OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THE GENERAL DOCUMENT STRUCTURE AND OVERVIEW STARTING WITH AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND I

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AND SO FOR THIS AS PART OF OUR PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH STAKEHOLDERS WE SORT OF BROKE UP THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRIORITY CONSERVATION PLANS INTO THE FIVE KEY THEMES OF CULTURAL LANDSCAPES WATER QUALITY, CRITICAL HABITAT RESILIENCY AND OPEN SPACE CONNECTIVITY. AND WE SORT IN THIS FIRST CHAPTER WALK THROUGH THE LAY OF THE LAND FOR WHAT EACH OF THOSE OF THE DATA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL FROM THE REALLY GREAT EXISTING LOCAL AND REGIONAL DATA THAT EXISTS FOR CULTURAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES IN THAT COUNTY IN THE REGION AND THEN TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR USING THAT DATA TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE CRITICAL PRIORITY LAND FOR CONSERVATION FOCUSED FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE CONSERVATION THINGS. THIS THE FIRST SECTION BASICALLY SORT OF WALKS THROUGH A SERIES OF MAPS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM THROUGH THEM THROUGH THESE VERY LENSES OF CONSERVATION VALUES HELP TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE PRIORITY CONSERVATION LAND IS BEFORE COUNTY. THE SECOND CHAPTER DIVES INTO THAT OVERVIEW OF THE CONSERVATION TOOLS THAT WE INCLUDED PART OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND HAS A DISCUSSION OF HOW THE PUBLIC WHICH TOOLS THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND AND THE LAST CHAPTER HAS SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS ON HOW THE GREEN PRINT PLAN CAN INFLUENCE THE DPI FOR COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND POTENTIALLY OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS IN THE COUNTY. AND SO JUST WALKING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT REALLY QUICKLY.

WE HAVE AN INTRODUCTION TO THE GREEN PRINT MAPPING AND THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED.

WE BUILT A PRIORITIZATION MODEL USING THE MODEL BUILDER PROGRAM AND OUR CHEERIOS PRO AND SO I JUST MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THERE THEY'RE SORT OF A DOCUMENTED PROCESS FOR THE INPUTS THAT WERE USED AND THEN HOW DIFFERENT THINGS WERE WEIGHTED TO PRODUCE THESE MAPS.

SO AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS SECTION WE TRIED TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE DATA THAT WE WERE USING, THE ASSUMPTIONS AND THE LIMITATIONS OF EACH OF THE MAPS AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO END IN AN APPENDIX AT THE END OF THE DOCUMENT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT MODEL WAS BUILT SO THAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COULD, YOU KNOW, TWEAK TWEAK THE MODEL AND USE BUILD OFF OF THIS. THIS WORK IN THE FUTURE AND TWEAK IT FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES FOR IDENTIFYING PRIORITY CONSERVATION LAND. WE ALSO HAVE LINKS IN THE DOCUMENT TO INTERACTIVE WEB MAPS. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE SOME OF THESE MAPS AT THE COUNTY SCALE IN THIS DOCUMENT.

SO THERE IS A WAY TO FOLLOW THOSE LINKS AND TO BE ABLE ZOOM IN AND OUT OF THE MAPS IN AN INTERACTIVE WEB MAP FORMAT. AND SO WALKING THROUGH THE BASIC THE BASIC FORMAT IS THAT FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE CONSERVATION THEMES WE HAVE SORT OF INTRODUCTORY SECTION THAT HAS A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PUBLIC MAPS SOME OF THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN ON

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WE ALSO HAVE AN ENLARGEMENT JUST TO SORT OF GIVE A SENSE IN THE DOCUMENT OF WHAT SOME OF THESE MAPS LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU ZOOM IN. AND AGAIN WE HAVE LINKS TO THOSE WEB MAPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN INTERACT A LITTLE MORE AND ZOOM IN AND OUT OF THE MAP.

AND SO WALKING THROUGH AGAIN WE HAVE CULTURAL LANDSCAPES. WE HAVE WATER QUALITY FOR THE WATER QUALITY PRIORITY LAND MAP. WE ULTIMATELY THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH THE COUNTY YOU DREW HEAVILY FROM THE PORT ROYAL SOUND WATER QUALITY PRIORITY INDEX THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED BY THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO IDENTIFY THOSE PRIORITY LAND AREAS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR CRITICAL HABITAT.

WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WITH SOME LOCAL EXPERTS AND ECOLOGISTS TO DEVELOP DIFFERENT COUNTY SPECIFIC METHODOLOGY FOR IDENTIFYING CRITICAL HABITAT LANDS BASED ON THE LAND'S IMPORTANCE TO OVERALL ECOSYSTEM HEALTH AND ALSO TO THE IMMEDIACY OF THE THREAT POSED TO IT BY EITHER DEVELOPMENT OR BY THE IMPACTS OF RISING SEA LEVELS.

AND SO THOSE CRITICAL HABITAT AREAS IN SUMMARY WERE SOME OF THE CONSERVATION CORRIDORS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE NATURE CONSERVANCY OTHER GROUPS PINE FOREST, MARITIME FOREST FRESHWATER WETLAND AND MARSH ISLANDS.

WE'RE GOING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THE DATA BUT ULTIMATELY SORT OF FOLLOWED A PROCESS WHERE WE CREATED A BEAUFORT COUNTY SPECIFIC MODEL FOR IDENTIFYING THOSE CRITICAL HABITAT PRIORITY LANDS AND TESTED THAT WITH IN CONSULTATION WITH WITH SOME LOCAL EXPERTS FOR RESILIENCY. WE WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND SOME OF THE MAPPING THAT'S BEEN DONE PARTICULARLY BY NOAH BY OTHER GROUPS AS WELL.

LOOKING AT THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN, THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PROJECTED SEA LEVEL RISE, THE RESILIENT CONNECTIVE NETWORKS IDENTIFIED BY THE NATURE CONSERVANCY THEN LOOKING AT AREAS LIKE STORM SURGE IMPACT DURING CATEGORY 1 HURRICANE.

THOSE WERE THE BASIC MAPPING INPUTS FOR THIS THIS RESILIENCY PRIORITY LAND MAP AND THEN LAST FOR CONNECTIVITY OF OPEN SPACE TRAILS. THIS INTRODUCTORY MAP SHOWS YOU IN A GLANCE THE GREEN OR THE OPEN SPACE LANDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROTECTED AND THE RED AND SORT OF PINKISH ONES OR THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED PUBLIC TRAILS.

AND SO WE USE THESE AND OTHER WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE OTHER IMPORTANT OPEN SPACE INPUTS INCLUDING EXISTING SCENIC AND CANOPY ROADS AND MILITARY INSTALLATIONS TO IDENTIFY PRIORITY LAND BASED ON PROXIMITY TO THESE EXISTING IMPORTANT CORRIDORS AND PROTECTED OPEN I'M IN THE NEXT SECTION. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE A CONSERVATION TOOLKIT WE SORT OF WALK THROUGH AND AGAIN AN INTRODUCTION RURAL AND CRITICAL AND PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT PROGRAM .

NOW SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION TOOLS THAT WE INTRODUCED TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN ASKED THEM IN THE SURVEY TO WEIGH IN ON WHICH OF THOSE TOOLS THEY THOUGHT WERE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT CONSERVATION SCENARIOS. SO WALK THROUGH A DISCUSSION OF THOSE THE DIFFERENT TYPES CONSERVATION TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY AND TO OTHER CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS IN THE IN THE COUNTY AND THE REGION WALK THROUGH THE PRIORITIZATION MODEL. THIS IS THE BASIC DATA AND MAPPING INPUTS THAT WE USE IN ARC J UST PRO IN MODEL BUILDER .

SO THIS IS SORT OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT WENT INTO THAT MODEL BUILDER AND WHAT COULD BE ADOPTED BY DIFFERENT GROUPS AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THOSE IMPORTANT REGIONAL OPEN SPACE PARTNERS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF LONG TERM LAND STEWARDSHIP AND HAVING REFERRING TO BEST PRACTICES AND BUILDING ON THE GREAT WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE IN THE COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROTECTED LAND IS IS CARED FOR AND MANAGED AND IS MEETING THOSE CONSERVATION GOALS THAT ARE SET FOR IT OVER TIME. AND GLEN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TO TALK ABOUT SORT OF NEXT STEPS THEN CROSSWALK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>> YEAH. SO AS ROB MENTIONED AND WE MENTIONED THIS THIS GREEN PLAN REALLY FORMS THE BACKDROP FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN MANY WAYS.

AND WE HAVE USED THIS PRIORITY MAPPING TO CREATE A MORE SIMPLIFIED.

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IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE ONLINE SURVEY WE ALSO DID WORK WITH SOME OF YOUR AND OTHERS TO MAIL OUT SURVEYS TO PEOPLE. WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE WEB MAP THAT SHOWS OF THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN ADDITION TO THE THE INTERACTIVE WEB MAPS THAT SHOW THAT PRIORITY LAND AND IN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS. WE ALSO HAD SEVERAL DISTANCE AND MASKED PUBLIC MEETINGS SORT OF OPEN HOUSES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DROP AND LOOK AT THE WORK AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK. AND SO AGAIN WE HAVE SORT OF A SUMMARY OF SOME OF HIGH LEVEL TAKEAWAYS FROM FROM THAT PUBLIC SURVEY THAT HAD JUST SHY OF A THOUSAND RESPONSES.

AND WE TALK IN THE SECTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE PAST GREEN PRINT PLANNING EFFORTS AS WELL. BEFORE JUMPING INTO A GLOSSARY TERMS IN THE APPENDICES, THE GLOSSARY OF TERMS AND SOME OF THESE LINKS THAT ARE EMBEDDED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT ARE OUR ATTEMPT TO TRY TO MAKE MAKE THIS AS USER FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE.

SIMILARLY WITH THE SORT OF HOW TO USE THE DOCUMENTS SPREAD LISTS OF POTENTIAL USERS WHO MIGHT FIND WHAT SECTION OF THE DOCUMENT INTERESTING PART OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS KIND OF HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THE DOCUMENT AND TO MAKE IT ACCESSED ASSESSABLE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. AND WITH THAT I THINK WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO TWO QUESTIONS.

IF YOU WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY POINTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.

>> AND I'D LIKE TO JUST PUT ONE FINAL POINT ON IT AND THEN YOU ADDRESSED IT, WHICH IS THIS IS REALLY A DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE USED BY EVERYONE REALLY CAN BE USED TO MAKE LAND USE DECISIONS THAT CAN BE USED TO MAKE CONSERVATION DECISIONS. IT CAN BE USED BY PROPERTY OWNERS AND OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR PROPERTY SITS WITHIN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT . SO IT'S IT'S INTENDED TO NOT JUST BE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL PRESERVATION PROGRAM, IT'S INTENDED TO BE USED BY ANYONE WHO CARES TO LAZY CAN TAKE DOWN YOUR VIEW GRAPHS AND WE CAN SEE ANYONE AND WHEN MY PRODUCER FOR A QUESTION.

>> YES. LET ME LET ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT REAL FAST.

THANK YOU. THANKS. QUESTIONS ASIA.

GO AHEAD, FRANK. TAKE YOURSELF OFF. I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS

. >> I GUESS THE THING THAT UPSETS ME ABOUT THE POLL IS THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT TOOK PART IN THIS POLL. AND I THINK OUT OF ALMOST 200 THOUSAND PEOPLE WE HAVE LIVING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, A THOUSAND PEOPLE RESPONDING TO THIS CALL IS TO ME TO USE JUST THAT ONE

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AND THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT ABOUT THAT.

LET ME GO THROUGH MY NOTES OVER HERE. >> DO YOU WANT ONE OF THEM TO ANSWER IT? GLENN YEAH. OR ARE LAZY PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANSWER TO IT. I DO KNOW THAT WE PUT FORTH A LOT OF EFFORT TO TRY TO GET THE OUTREACH TO HAPPEN. I KNOW THAT ROB AND AND THE COUNTY DID AS WELL AS WELL AS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD A BIG INTEREST IN WHAT WE WERE DOING IN.

AND TO BE HONEST WHEN WE HAD IN-PERSON MEETINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COMPLAINT WE WOULD GET 20 AND 30 PEOPLE WE THOUGHT TO GET NINE HUNDRED PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY WAS WAS WAS PRETTY DARN GOOD. WE DO IT. I DO AGREE AND LINDSEY WOULD AGREE THAT GETTING, YOU KNOW, MORE TYPICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED PORTIONS OF THE POPULATION TO PARTICIPATE IS STILL A CHALLENGE. AND AND WE WERE CHALLENGED IN THIS CASE AS WELL. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WE WE WERE ABLE TO DO DIRECT MAILERS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS TO GET THEM TO PARTICIPATE AND THEY WERE JUST YEAH.

WE WOULD ALWAYS LOVE MORE PARTICIPATION. WE'D ALWAYS LOVE BROADER PARTICIPATION. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE EFFORT WAS THERE WITHIN THIS

PROJECT TO MAXIMIZE IT AS MUCH AS WE COULD. >> ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. AS FAR AS THE WATER QUALITY FALL OFF OR DOES ANYBODY LOOK INTO THE GOLF COURSE IS WHAT THEY USE PHOTO WARHEADS OR ARE THEY THEY GREEN THE GOLF

COURSE? >> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY'S CHECKED THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW GOLF COURSES THAT ADD TO THE WATER TABLE BUT THE WITH ALL THE FIRS FERTILIZERS THEY USE ALL WE PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE TO MAYBE GET THEM TO GO GREEN IF

THEY'RE NOT GREEN. >> WELL, THAT'S A PRETTY BROAD QUESTION.

>> I DO KNOW THAT SOME GOLF COURSES USE RECYCLED WATER FOR IRRIGATION AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND SOME COURSES ARE GOING TO BE MORE GREEN THAN OTHERS.

BUT I I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE ON THAT.

AND SINCE THIS IS A DOCUMENT IS PRIMARILY AROUND LAND PRESERVATION, IT REALLY YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T REALLY TALKING ABOUT SUSTAINABLE PART OF MANAGEMENT OR GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE PROBABLY APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BUT IT DOES GO TO WATER QUALITY. SURE. SURE.

JUST IN THAT IN THAT SAME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE

AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES AND THOSE THINGS AS WELL. >> THOSE THOSE GET REGULATED DIFFERENTLY OR A DIFFERENT SORT OF SUBJECT THAN WHAT THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT WAS WAS ADDRESSING. I KNOW YOU HAVE SEA LEVEL RISE THERE WHICH I'M SORT OF SURPRISED THAT THAT REALLY WASN'T THE TOP PRIORITY. SO THE PEOPLE TAKING THE POLL THAT CAME IN THIRD I'M JUST WONDERING ARE WE GOING TO COVER I GUESS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'RE GOING TO COVER WELL SEA LEVEL RISE AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO PREVENT

IT. >> YES, SIR. THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE GREEN PRINT PLAN. IT IS ADDRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE'S ALSO THERE WAS ALSO WORK BEING DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH BOTH OF THESE EFFORTS RELATED TO CONSIDERING POLICIES RELATED TO SEA LEVEL RISE AS WELL.

I MEAN BECAUSE THE MODEL THE MAP THAT YOU SHOW THE SEA LEVEL RISE AND TO GO IN 2028 IT'S PRETTY EXTREME. YES IT IS. I GUESS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE WITH THEIR QUESTIONS AND MAYBE I'LL COME BACK A LITTLE BIT LATER.

>> WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO OFFER A COMMENT ON MAJORITY RULE AND CRITICAL PRESERVATION WORKS FOR

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>> I SEE I SEE IT AS A GREAT MARRYING BETWEEN GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND CONSERVATION AND THAT EACH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SIDES WILL TAKE A DEEPER LOOK TO SEEING HOW BEST WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHILE ADDRESSING THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE BEST

FOR ZONING AND GROWTH. >> SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADVANCE AND GREAT STEP FORWARD JUST IN THE BABY STAGES I THINK WE'VE CREATED A TOOL THAT WILL ONLY GET BETTER AS WE BEGIN TO USE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT AN EASY TO UNDERSTAND DOCUMENT IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH PRIOR GREAT PRINT HISTORY AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE WITH CONSERVATION BUT I THINK IT'S A

GREAT STEP FORWARD. >> AND I ENDORSE IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

>> OTHER COMMENTS. OK, I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT COMMENTS ON THIS, FRANK.

>> YOU HAVE GOT A COMPELLING COMMENT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS POINT.

>> ED, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT IT LOOKS AS THOUGH RANDOLPH AS IS ANDREA YATES NOW.

OK. >> I DON'T SEE RANDOLPH YET. YES.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT ED SAID. I'M VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY PART OF THE COUNTY, PART OF THE AREA AND WHERE PEOPLE DO CARE.

AND I THINK THAT THIS ONE OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT PRESENTED IS SUPERB.

IT'S EXCELLENT. HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING THIS? I DO WORK IN OTHER COUNTIES AND I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT AWARE OF THEM DOING THIS.

SO I THINK I'LL BE VERY PROUD TO HAVE THIS STARTED. AND I THANK YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION AN EXCELLENT JOB AND YOU'VE DONE WITH THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING CARRIED ON TO TO EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY AND IN THE COMMITTEES AND IN COUNCIL WE ARE WE ARE A GREAT PLACE YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK. AND THANK YOU STAFF ROB AND EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED.

KUDO KNOWS AND THIS IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT. IT'S GOING TO BE SOME ON PAGES IN THE LAB THERE BUT IT'S ALL VOLUNTARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

OK. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, FINAL COMMENTS.

OK, OK. THANK YOU, GLENN AND LINDSAY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD DOWN THE ROAD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND AND A CLOSER MARRYING OF THESE TWO DOCUMENTS. SO WITH THAT WE WISH YOU ALL WELL GOING FORWARD WITH A GREAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH WE'RE ANTICIPATING.

>> THANK YOU GUYS. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME WITH US.

WE'LL SEE YOU SOON, I'M SURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY THANK YOU.

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OK, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER TWO ACTION ITEMS. >> DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THREE POINT FOUR POINT NINE OUT FIRST ROB OR. WHICH ONE DID YOU WANT? TAKEN TOGETHER, HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS? I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT COVERS BOTH OF THEM. I CAN GIVE THAT AND THEN THAT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO VOTE SEPARATELY ON THEM. OK. NOW I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE

OUT HOW TO SHARE RIGHT NOW. JUST GIVE ME. >> JUST BEAR WITH ME A SECOND HERE, OK? HERE WE GO. OK.

CAN WE ALL SEE THAT? YES I CAN. OK, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK

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AND IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THIS DIRECTION TO EXPLORE THESE TWO OPTIONS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE REALIZED THESE ARE NOT LADIES ISLAND ISSUES. THESE ARE COUNTY WIDE OR REGIONAL ISSUES. SO WE BEGAN A PROCESS WE CREATED A TASK FORCE MADE UP OF COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL PLANNERS, MEMBERS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. WE BROUGHT IN ENGINEERS AS FLOODPLAIN MANAGERS, HOME BUILDERS AND WE KIND OF DELIBERATED THROUGH THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE TWO ORDINANCES. WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME BROADER POLICY ISSUES WHICH YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEXT MONTH.

SO YOU KNOW, SEA LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE HAVE BEEN VERY KIND OF ON THE FOREFRONT.

YOU KNOW THIS GO ROUND WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A BACKDROP TO THESE TWO AUDIENCES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD. I JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK KIND OF RUN TO KIND OF SHOW I GUESS YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS SORRY FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT ALSO HOW WE CAN BEGIN TO TAKE STEPS LOCALLY TO DEVELOP POLICIES TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT AND BRACE FOR YOU CHANGES IN SEA LEVEL. SO LET'S JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THAT SEA LEVEL RISES IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A TIDAL GAGE IN THE POLANSKI RIVER OR I'M SORRY FOR POLANSKI AND THE SAVANNAH RIVER. AND THERE'S ALSO ONE IN CHARLESTON HARBOR AND BOTH OF THEM SHOW ABOUT ONE FOOT OF SEA LEVEL RISE SINCE NINETEEN THIRTY. AND THERE'S REASONS TO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS ACCELERATING GIVEN THE TRENDS OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT LINE AS KIND OF AN UP AND DOWN AND IT'S TAKEN THE MEANING OF THAT TREND. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART BIT EVEN MORE YOU ONE FOOT OF SEA LEVEL RISE DOESN'T SEEM TOO ALARMING BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING MORE AND MORE AND I THINK MANY YOU PROBABLY ANECDOTALLY HAVE FOLLOWED THIS IS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING MORE COASTAL FLOODING EVENTS SOMETIMES ARE CALLED YOU KNOW, YOU GET FLOODING AND IT'S SUNNY OUT BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING OFFSHORE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE KING TIDES WHERE THE SEA LEVEL YOU KNOW THE WATER LEVEL IS HIGHER THAN OUR TYPICAL TIDAL CYCLES OF SPRING AND DEEP TIDES. AND WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING MORE AND MORE AND THOSE WHO LIVE IN BEAUFORT WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THE SEAWALL AT THE WATERFRONT PARK IS OVERTOPPED AND THAT IS JUST THAT'S A VERY UNUSUAL EVENT. IT HAPPENED NOT ONLY DURING TROPICAL STORM BURMA BUT IT HAPPENED SEVERAL OTHER TIMES ON DAYS THAT OTHERWISE SEEM NORMAL DAYS THERE WASN'T ASSOCIATED WITH ANY KIND OF STORM ACTIVITY.

AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE NUISANCE KIND OF FLOODING EVENTS ARE HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY. AND THE THING WHEN WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE THERE'S STILL A GREAT DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY ON HOW TO FORECAST WHAT WHAT SEA LEVEL RISE WILL BE. TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS GOING EVERYWHERE FROM A STRAIGHT LINE PROJECTION INTO THE PAST TO THE MOST EXTREME SCENARIO WHICH WOULD BOWLES YOU KNOW, POLAR ICE CAPS MELTING. BUT TYPICALLY FOR FORECASTING PURPOSES WE USE THE ORANGE LINE WHICH IS THE INTERMEDIATE HIGH PROJECTION.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS HERE, YOU KNOW WE'RE IN YEAR 2020 AND BETWEEN NOW AND 20, 50, 30 YEAR IF YOU THINK OF IT, THE LIFE LIFESPAN OF A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A FOOT AND A HOUSE OF SEA LEVEL RISE WITHIN 50 YEARS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THE LIFESPAN OF MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS, IT'S IT'S CLOSER TO THREE FEET . SO THESE BECOME IMPORTANT PLANNING TOOLS FOR UNDERSTANDING THE IMPLICATIONS AND YOU KNOW HOW WE NEED TO PLAN INTO THE FUTURE.

ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE THINK OF FLOODING A LOT OF TIMES IT

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AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN INNOCUOUS THING. YOU KNOW, ONE NUISANCE MIGHT BE A ROAD BEING BLOCKED. BUT IF THAT'S BLOCKING AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT BECOMES A MAJOR PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FLOODING WE HAVE TODAY IN AREAS THAT GET HIT DURING THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF COASTAL FLOODING, IMAGINE IF THOSE HIT AREAS ARE HIT MORE FREQUENTLY.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT COMPOUNDED EVENTS WHEN WE HAVE A RAINSTORM AT THE SAME TIME A KING TIDE IS OCCURRING. THE IMPACT OF FLOODING IS MUCH GREATER BECAUSE THE WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO. WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS IN THE MOSSY OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY THEY JUST THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT WHERE THEY'RE CREATING ALMOST A AT THE LEVEE OUT OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL TO TO BE CONTROL FUTURE FLOODING. THIS IS ANOTHER HELPFUL WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT FOUR TO SIX INCHES OF FLOODING IS GOING TO AFFECT PEDESTRIANS. WHEN YOU GET TO SIX TO 12 INCHES, THE ROADS BECOME IMPASSABLE FOR CARS GREATER THAN THAT.

TRUCKS AND SUV ARE AFFECTED WHEN YOU GET BEYOND THAT. YOU'RE AFFECTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES. AND SO YOU KNOW, TWENTY FOUR TO THIRTY SIX INCHES ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION.

SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, FLOODING AT LOW LEVELS CAN REALLY CREATE A CASCADE OF PROBLEMS. ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT KIND OF FORECASTING FOR THE FUTURE IS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPRING TIE. THIS OCCURS EVERY TWO WEEKS.

YOU KNOW WHERE THE WATER IS AT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, AT THE HIGHEST THIS IS HOW THEY WHEN THEY MEASURE THE CRITICAL LINE ON THE PROPERTY, HOW THEY DETERMINE THE AREA BETWEEN TIGHTLY INFLUENCE PROPERTY VERSUS HIGH GROUND. THEN WE HAVE THESE KING TIDES OR WHAT THEY CALL QURESHI IN THE SPRING TIDES THEY OCCUR THREE TO FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED THIS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND. SO THE WATER IS OF A HIGHER LEVEL THAN YOU'RE USED TO SEEING IT. YOU KNOW IN SOME OF THESE AREAS LIKE BOAT LANDINGS BECOME FLOODED AND WE HAVE SOME MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING STEW.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TROPICAL STORMS. THERE'S THE WATERFRONT PARK GETTING OVER OVERTOPPED. AND WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THIS MORE FREQUENTLY.

THE TWO DATES SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM CORNER CAME AND WENT WITH WITH VERY LITTLE WORK BY THE WATER. YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN THAT WE HAD A MAJOR FLOODING EVENT THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THESE TYPES OF FLOOD EVENTS MORE AND THEN FINALLY EXTREME FLOODING EVENTS AND THE REASON I SHOW THESE IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FREQUENCY OF THEM SPRING TWICE A MONTH CAME TIME THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR. MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING ONE EVERY TWO TO FIVE YEARS TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE SEEING A SHIFT IN THE FREQUENCY. AND SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF A KING TIDES, IMAGINE IF THAT WAS A MONTHLY EVENT AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR YOU KNOW, A CAUSEWAY THAT'S LOW LYING AND IT GETS OVERTOPPED AND THIS IS HOW WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PLAN OUR COUNTY. SO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE AS A BACKDROP.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TOUCHING ON A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL RESILIENCE ITEMS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEALING WITH WHAT TYPES OF LAND USE POLICY THESE POLICIES FOR FOR BUILDING KNOW FUTURE STRUCTURES, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS KNOW ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHERE ADDRESSING INCOMPETENCE AND BEFORE RIGHT NOW THESE TWO AUDIENCES ARE COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE LAZY ISLAND PLAN. WE BELIEVE HIS STAFF THAT THERE ARE IMPORTANT STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE LOCALLY. THE FIRST AUDIENCE IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE FILM AUDIENCE AND WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO DO IS TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL FLOODPLAIN AND INTO AVOIDS THE ALTERING OF THE LANDSCAPE BY BRINGING IN A LARGE AMOUNTS OF FILL. WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING AN IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE WALL OR LOW MARKS THESE ISLANDS IS THAT YOU KNOW, AS WE DEVELOP

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IT'S REALLY MEANT TO TARGET THESE LARGER COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL KIND OF BUILDINGS THAT THAT ARE TYPICALLY BUILT ON A SLAB AND REQUIRE LARGE AS LARGE AMOUNTS OF FIELD TO BRING THEM UP TO BASE FLOOD ELEVATION THE APPLICATION.

YOU KNOW, THIS APPLIES TO ALL LANDS AT OR BELOW 10 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

IT LIMITS FILL TO THREE VERTICAL VERTICAL FEET OR LESS. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY THE MAIN TARGET OF THIS ORDINANCE. CERTAINLY WE WANT TO AVOID THE SITUATION OF THE SUBDIVISION WHERE THE NEIGHBOR BUILDS UP THEIR LOT. YOU KNOW, TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT IS BEGINNING TO AFFECT, YOU KNOW, FLOODING AND NOT ONLY THAT THAT JUST YOU KNOW, THE THE APPEARANCE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE THE WE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO SURVEYORS AND REALLY GET A LOT OF REAL LIFE SITUATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T CREATING AN AUDIENCE THAT WOULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER TODAY FROM THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION REALTORS.

WE DID PRESENT TO THEM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS THEY HAVE. BUT I I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS DESIGNED TO TARGET WHO WE MEANING TO TARGET. THAT'S THE LARGER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO LOCATE IN VERY LOW LYING AREAS. AND AS I MENTIONED BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRODUCT LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, THIS IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE CITY OF BEAUFORT CLAMS. WELL, I'M SORRY I HAVE THE WRONG MUNICIPALITIES IN YOUR CITY OF BEAUFORT AND IN TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND WE DID PRESENT AND BRING YOU PRESENT TO HILTON HEAD IN BLUFFTON AND THEIR PLANNERS WERE AT THE TABLE AND THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PROCESS. THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BUT IT IS A TOTAL POTENTIAL FUTURE TOOL IN THEIR TOOL BOX.

SO THAT'S THE PHIL ORDINANCE. AND VERY BRIEFLY, I'LL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY AND THEN YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT ASK.

THIS IS HAS A DIFFERENT OBJECTIVE. THIS IS A ORDINANCE.

ONCE AGAIN IT'S APPLYING TO THOSE LANDS THAT ARE AT OR BELOW 10 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

BUT THIS PRIMARILY SERVES AS DISCLOSURE FOR REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS KNOWING YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW THE BUYER IS AWARE THAT THEY'RE BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS LOW ENOUGH AN ELEVATION THAT THEY NOT ONLY MAY EXPERIENCE FLOODING TODAY BUT IT'S LIKELY TO BECOME MORE FREQUENT IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS THE FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER. IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY, YOU KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, THESE CONDITIONS ON THE SITE AND ONCE AGAIN THIS IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE CITY AND TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AS WELL AND THAT IS A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW AND I'M WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR. BEFORE WE GO TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, CAN YOU TAKE THAT OFF THE SCREEN, ROG, SO WE CAN SEE WHO'S GONE?

>> THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS FOR ROB BE HERE. FRANK, I JUST WANT TO SAY I

AGREE WITH THIS TOTALLY. >> AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS LIED TO ABOUT PROPERTY THAT DIDN'T FLOOD OUT WHEN IT ACTUALLY DID PREVIOUSLY AND I LOST A HOME BECAUSE OF THAT I HOPE THIS GOES ALL THE WAY AND THEN PASSES BECAUSE I REALLY SYMPATHIZE WITH THIS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. THANK YOU.

AND OTHER COMMENTS THE COMMISSIONERS OK, WE'LL COME BACK TO WHEN WE TAKE A VOTE.

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WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE OFFER AND LET'S TAKE THEM IN QUEUE.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE JESSE WHITE. WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'D HAD A COMMENT TO MAKE OR IF SHE'S JUST TUNED IN. WE ALSO HAVE A.

I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEONE WHO HAD A COMMENT TO MAKE AS WELL. >> WE ONLY START WITH JESSE AND I KNOW SHE'S FROM THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE. I KNOW THAT SHE HAS OFFERED SOME COMMENTS. IN FACT, I GOT I RECEIVED LEARN THAT I PASSED ON LATE THIS AFTERNOON TO THE COMMISSIONER. SO LET ME START WITH JESSE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE OTHER

PARTIES IN THE QUEUE. JESSE, THANK YOU. >> I WAS LOOKING FOR A HAND RAISED BUTTON AND I COULDN'T QUITE FIND IT SO APOLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION.

I YOU WOULD THINK AFTER A YEAR WE'D ALL BE WHIZZES ON THE COMPUTER BUT I'M STILL LEARNING MYSELF. SO APOLOGIES. MY NAME IS JESSE WHITE.

I'M THE SOUTH COAST OFFICE DIRECTOR FOR THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AND OFFER OUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY AND THOSE STANDARDS AS PART OF A COUNTY CODE . AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR LOW COUNTRY LANDSCAPE AND EXTENSIVE WATERWAYS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY'RE SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT MAKE THIS A DESIRABLE, DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND RETIRE. BUT THOSE SAME FEATURES ALSO MAKE US ONE MOST BOLDER VULNERABLE AREAS TO THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN.

AS ROB JUST DESCRIBED IN HIS PRESENTATION, BOTH OF THESE INITIATIVES BEFORE YOU TOOLS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BETTER AND MORE RESPONSIBLY MANAGE HOW WE GROW IN THE FLOODPLAIN HELPING TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY ARE KEPT OUT OF HARM'S WAY WHILE ALSO PROTECTING AND RETAINING THE HEALTHY FUNCTIONING OF OUR NATURAL SYSTEMS. THE CONSERVATION LEAGUE APPLAUDS THE COUNTY'S PROACTIVE APPROACH TO PROMOTING PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE BY ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.

NOW BOTH OF THESE INITIATIVES ARE IMPORTANT REASONABLE MEASURES INTENDED TO IMPROVE HOW WE LIVE AND DEVELOP IN THE FLOODPLAIN AS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL.

THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY WILL HELP TO PROTECT AND PREPARE THOSE LIVING IN THE FLOODPLAIN MAKING THEM AND THEIR PROPERTIES MORE RESILIENT AS A SMART GROWTH MEASURE.

THE PHIL STANDARDS RESPONSIBLY ACCOMMODATE GROWTH IN THE FLOODPLAIN WHILE PROTECTING NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FROM DISRUPTIVE NATURAL STORMWATER FUNCTIONS.

OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE COUNTY STAFF HAVE WORKED TO INCORPORATE INPUT FROM A DIVERSE AND WIDE ARRAY OF STAKEHOLDERS IN DRAFTING THESE ORDINANCE ORDINANCES AND THESE EFFORTS HAVE RESULTED IN A REASONABLE IN REASONABLE AND RESPONSIBLE GROWTH MANAGEMENT TOOLS. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WHICH WE HOPE WILL MEET WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR DILIGENCE ON THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JESSE. OK, I KNOW IF WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS DOING THE Q IF THEY WERE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THERE MAY BE SOME PROBLEM FOR THEM INDICATING THAT THEY WANT TO GET IN AND I DON'T THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET A RAISE IN ONE. I'LL BELIEVE THAT THE ONE OTHER PERSON LEFT THE MEETING MR.

CHAIRMAN. >> SO I TAKE IT THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES TO MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT? OK. I HAD JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A COMMENT. I THINK THESE ARE THE OUTSTANDING TOOLS THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO TAKING A VERY PARENT AWARENESS OF OUR CONCERN AS A COMMUNITY WHERE OUR LOW LYING AREAS AND FOR LANDFILL THAT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR ENVIRONMENT.

SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS RAISED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S AND I'M JUST PARAPHRASING HERE WHAT WHAT WAS AN EXTENSIVE NOTES BY THEN OF COURSE THEY'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. BUT IN THE AND IN ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY CONDITION DID THE DISCLOSURE THERE'S THEY SEEM TO CITE A NUMBER OF OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT WERE DOING THE SAME JOB THIS IS BEING ASKED FOR AND DOING THE THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY

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YEAH, I AM AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO. ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT NO ONE DOES THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT THEY MENTION WAS FLOOD INSURANCE THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO ADOPT NEW FLOOD MAPS ACTUALLY LATER THIS MONTHS THAT HAVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IN SOME CASES AS LOW AS SEVEN FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL AND OUR CONCERN IS IS THAT THAT IT IS AT A LEVEL WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE NOTIFICATION THERE IF SOMEBODY IS AT OR KNOCKING IT NOT TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE NOTIFICATION. THIS GOES UP TO 10 WEEKS WHERE WE'RE DEFINING AN AREA THAT I WOULD SAY NOW IS BROADER THAN THE NEW FEMA FLOOD MAPS.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE OTHER NOTIFICATION HAS TO DO WITH THE LOCATION OF THE CRITICAL LINE. THAT'S THE AREA THAT YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DELINEATES JOPLIN FROM THE HEAD OF THE TIGHTLY INFLUENCE AREA. BUT NOT ALL LOW LYING PROPERTIES ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE MARSH. A LOT OF THESE ARE ALONG, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE WAYS THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAPS.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT ARE JUST LOWER IN ELEVATION MEANING LIKE THAT AREA IF MOSSY OAK.

SO I IMAGINE A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT AREA ARE NOT AWARE OF JUST HOW LOW THEY ARE UNTIL THEY'VE EXPERIENCED THAT FLOODING LIKE THAT. SO YOU WE BELIEVE THAT THIS COMPLEMENTS THAT AND YOU KNOW, IN IT SERVES NOT ONLY THE INTERESTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER BUT WE THINK AT MAKES GOOD SENSE FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL. WELL, THE NEW FLOOD MAPS THAT WE GOT TO BE ADOPTED IN PRACTICE ORDINANCE THE ORDINANCE BEING MODIFIED AS A RESULT OF IT OR NOT NOTES OUR INTENT TO STAY WITH THE 10 FEET BECAUSE THE NEW FLOOD MAPS GO

IN LOWER IN SOME CASES WITH BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. >> IT VARIES DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTY. OK, EITHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

OK, CARRYING A KNIFE. I THINK WE'RE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE TWO TEXT AMENDMENTS ,MR. CHAIRMAN EACH UP OFFICER USING COCAINE IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE THE CORNER OF THIS VIDEO . SORRY THAT IS USED IN THE EYE CONSTANTLY.

I'M FOR THE PROPOSAL. I THINK IT'S A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROB, FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH IT. I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A PLACE WHERE THE FLOOD PLAIN IS 18 IN THE COUNTY AND THIS COUNTY BEING HELD AHEAD OF MUNICIPALITY SO THAT WILL BE LOWERED TO 17 FEET. THAT'S STILL THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.

I FEEL THAT THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE FORWARD. THIS IS A START.

BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BUT I'M STILL VERY POSITIVE ON THE ON THE ON THE ON THE AMENDMENT FROM BEING INVOLVED AND PLANNING WHAT HAVE YOU.

I'VE GOT A LOT I'M GOING TO BUILD ON IT. I'M GOING TO RAISE THREE FEET.

I KNOW ROB, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU ADDED AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS TO THE GUY ON THE LEFT RIGHT. HE'S ALREADY GOT A HOUSE THERE . HOW IS THAT DRAINAGE GONNA AFFECT HIM? THERE'S A PARDON ME WHILE I'M LOOKING A COUPLE NOTES HERE. YOU COVERED CERTAIN PHIL QUALITIES. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THE FIELD QUALITIES BUT THERE'S ALSO A DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AND SATURATION QUALITIES IN PHIL THAT MAYBE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME WHETHER IT BE SAND OR CLAY OR WHAT KIND OF PHIL IS BEING USED TO RAISE THIS PROPERTY OF THREE FEET THREE FEET TO FILL OR KILL.

SO A LOT OF TREES, ALL THE TREES, ALL THE BUSHES. WHAT DO WE DO TO PROTECT THAT OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES OTHER THAN THE FLOOD RAISING THE PLAIN RAISING OTHER THAN TREES

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BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T SEE IN THE AUDIENCE. POSSIBLY IT IS.

AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL. YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE IN THIS IN THIS IN THIS AMENDMENT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T FEEL PUBLIC PROPERTY.

WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE AFFECTED WHEN THEY FEEL THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT CREATES OTHER ISSUES WITH THE PUBLIC PROPERTY.

SO I THINK THAT MAY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK I THINK THAT'S BASIOMMENT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THE NEIGHBORS WERE THE NEW BUILDERS WILL BE UNDER THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT THE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.

THAT LETTER SAID THAT HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF BUILDERS IN THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED WHEN THEY TRY TO RAISE THEIR LAND. AND AGAIN, THERE'S OTHER LAND ADJACENT TO THEM AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THEM ECONOMICALLY. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT HOW TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBOR WHO'S ALREADY GOT A HOUSE OR A PERSON WHO'S HAD THEIR LAND FOR 20, 30 YEARS AND MAY WANT TO BUILD ONE OR THEIR VALUE PROPERTY GOES DOWN BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO ADD THE COST OF THREE FEET TO THE BILL ,GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

AND THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AS WELL. I STILL APPLAUD THE ORDINANCE AND I'LL VOTE POSITIVE. ONE THING I WOULD MENTION WITH THE TREES IS ANOTHER THING THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT REALLY LIMITS THE AREA WHERE PHIL IS BEING BROUGHT IN TO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE AREA NEEDED FOR ACCESS TO THE BUILDING.

SO IT'S DISCOURAGING PHIL.. IN OTHER PARTS OF THE SITE. SO YOU KNOW THAT HOPEFULLY WILL ENCOURAGE MORE TREE PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW? AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, STARTING FROM THE BASELINE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NO RESTRICTIONS SOME STILL OTHER THAN YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN AND WHAT THEY SEE NECESSARY TO BRING THEIR PROPERTY UP TO EITHER THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION OR FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES. SO WE FEEL THAT THIS LIMITING TO THREE FEET AT LEAST A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, BUT I AGREE THAT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WITH NEIGHBORS STILL THEY'RE STILL OUT THERE. WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT THERE WILL BE MITIGATED BY THE LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT OF . GO AHEAD IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU COULD NOT DRAIN YOUR RUNOFF ONTO A NEIGHBOUR'S PROPERTY.

YES, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY DIFFICULT BUT I'M THREE FEET HIGHER THAN MY NEIGHBOR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SYSTEM OF CANALS AND DITCHES ALL OVER THE PLACE WHEN IT COMES THAT BUILDING NEW HOMES AND WE'LL HAVE YOU BETTER AT THE YEAR WHERE.

AND I JUST I HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT'S WELL. OK.

THANK YOU, RANDOLPH. I REALLY COMMENTS OK. SAYING NO FURTHER COMMENT.

I THINK WE'RE READY. TAKE A BOW. I'D LIKE TO TAKE THEM SEPARATELY. MY AN OBJECTION FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY AND A DIRECTION THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TAKEN. I'M GOING TO START WITH THE TEXT TO SECTION THREE POINT FOUR THAT I KNOW OF THE COMMITTEE DEVELOP A CODE TO EDIT COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO REQUIRE REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED IN LOW LYING AREAS . CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS AMENDMENT? OK. RANDOLPH I SEE YOU. I THOUGHT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND FIRST. SO AGAIN THANK YOU. SECOND I SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GONNA HAVE TO DO IT A SLOW PAINFUL WAY OF TAKING BOTH ONE AT A TIME. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M JUST GONNA CALL YOUR NAME AND I KNEW IF YOU QUICKLY WERE ON MUTE YOURSELF AND GIVE

ME YES OR NO RANDOLPH YES. >> DIANE DIANE, I ASSUME YOUR HAND MEANS YES.

OK. KEVIN NODDING YES. CAROLINE YES.

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>> YES. BILLY YES. OK.

ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S GO TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT. TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 5 OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE ADDING A NEW DIVISION 5 1 3 TITLE FILLED STANDARDS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF FILTH ON LOW LYING AREAS. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT THAT TEXT AND THEN PROVE THAT JASON YES. OKAY. SECOND.

SECOND. CAROLINE OKAY. CAROLINE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

JUST START WITH RANDOLPH. YOU SAY YES. I CAN'T.

I MEAN HE OK. DIANE YES. KEVIN YES.

CAROLINE YES. CECILY YES. JASON YES.

FRANK YES. JIMMY YEAH. ELLIS I FORGOT TO SAY THAT LAST NIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE EMOTION TOO ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OK, WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR

AGENDA. >> WE DID THE AGREED UPON PLAN TWO CHAIRMAN'S REPORT.

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WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERSON. TONY COULD TELL YOU WHILE WE WANT LET HIM IN AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. ALI, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS UNRELATED TO THE ACTION ITEMS AND AND PERHAPS HE WASN'T ON THE LINE WHEN WE DID CITIZENS COMMENT. SO LET'S GIVE THEM A IS THREE MINUTES WHEN I REQUESTED THAT

HE MUTES. >> MR. BRISTOW, YOU'LL NEED TO CLICK CLICK ON MUTE AT YOUR SCREEN GLOW. HEY, DID YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I AM INTERESTED IN MY CITIZEN PARTICIPATION EFFORTS THUS FAR IN REGARD TO THE CONFERENCE AND PLAN AND THE CONFERENCE AND PLAN AS RELATES TO THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT ELEMENT AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AS IT MAY RELATE TO VISITING PROPERTIES IN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM. SPECIFICALLY BRANDON HALL PLANTATION WHICH WAS PURCHASED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN 2012 AND NOW MANY YEARS HAS TRANSPIRED. I'M CALLING TONIGHT TO REMIND YOU OF THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN EFFORTS ON MY PART TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CONFERENCE PLAN. TO THE EXTENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ENDORSES THAT AND RECOMMENDS SO TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT'S MY COMMENT. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU THIS EVENING IF POSSIBLE IN REGARD TO THE STATUS OF THAT. THANK YOU.

TONY ROBERT, CAN I SAY ANYTHING REGARDING AT THIS POINT ROB YOUR I'M YOUR WE'RE ANTICIPATING GETTING THE DRAFT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TO YOU HOPEFULLY LATER THIS

MONTH IF NOT IN APRIL. >> YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE CAN KIND OF DO A WALK THROUGH AND INTRODUCTION THE PLAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON THE C IP AND MY REQUEST IS AT

THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEY REVIEW THE PLAN. >> YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT UP AT THAT POINT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

THANK YOU, ROB. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYWAY, LET'S JUST FURTHER

BUSINESS TO BE DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSIONERS. >> HEARING NO COMMENT REGARDING

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME AROUND.

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