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SO THIS MORNING, UM, JUST KIND OF A QUICK REMINDER OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR DAY IS TODAY.
WE GOT A LOT DONE YESTERDAY IN TERMS OF, UM, WORKING THROUGH THE PRIORITIES.
UM, BUT I KNOW YOU HAD SO MUCH FUN WITH THOSE CLICKERS.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO IT AGAIN, BUT ALSO TO KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU WHAT YOU, WHERE YOU ENDED UP.
BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT ALL IN ONE PLACE, IT'S A LITTLE DISJOINTED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE STRATEGIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED WITHIN EACH OF THE VALUES.
I SAID IT JUST RIGHT AND SHOW YOU WHAT YOU HAVE.
AND THEN I THINK WE'LL ALSO JUMP ON THE, UM, THE NEAR ONES AND DO THE EXERCISE THAT WE DID YESTERDAY WITH THE NEAR GOALS, SO THAT YOU CAN PRIORITIZE THOSE STRATEGIES WITHIN THOSE GOALS AS WELL.
WE ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS AND THAT'S HOW THE DAY WILL START.
WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT OFF WITH A CONVERSATION ABOUT HIGHWAY TWO 78.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL JUMP INTO THE STRATEGY PRIORITIZATION AND THEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PARKING STUDY AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME PLACE WITH REGARDS TO, UM, WHAT'S NEXT FOR PRIORITIES.
SO WE'LL GET YOU OUT OF HERE BY FOUR O'CLOCK AGAIN, I PROMISE SOMETIMES COULD BE BEFORE THAT.
YOU NEVER KNOW, UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA, QUICK DEBRIEF ON YESTERDAY.
WHAT'D YOU LIKE, WHAT DID YOU, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER? YOU WERE TIRED.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THOUGHTFUL OUR DECISIONS WERE BECAUSE THEY WERE OFF THE, OFF THE TOP OF THE YEAH.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO WAIT THROUGH 128 ITEMS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY GREAT WAS BEING ABLE TO USE THE CLICKER TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AS GLENN SAID, I, I AGREE, UM, KIND OF OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD WITH, IN A QUICK AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE REACTION, UM, AUTONOMY, MOSTLY SLEEP.
UM, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN, I THINK, I THINK I, I MISS THAT INTERACTION OF BEING ABLE TO GET UP AND TO PARTICIPATE TOGETHER.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE SOME BIASES THAT COME INTO YOUR DECISION-MAKING WITH REGARD TO VISUALLY SEEING HOW MANY DOTS ARE IN ONE PARTICULAR PLACE OR ANOTHER.
SO, UM, I THINK OVERALL I LIKED THE CLICKER, BUT I MISS THE INTERACTION.
IN THIS TIME, TOO, WHEN I'VE TRIED TO USE DOTS, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY CAN GO UP ONE OR TWO AT A TIME AND YOU HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND STUFF.
SO I'M GLAD WE HAVE A TECHNOLOGICAL SUBSTITUTE THAT CAN BE STERILE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON YESTERDAY'S REFLECTIONS BEFORE WE JUMP IN? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, YOU ALL HAVE MENTIONED YESTERDAY IN SOME OF YOUR OPENING COMMENTS THAT PERHAPS, UM, THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL WILL MAKE AS A COUNCIL IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE HIGHWAY TWO 78.
SO IT'S BIG AND IT'S DAUNTING AND THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS.
PERHAPS THERE'S ONLY A SERIES OF THINGS THAT ARE LESS WORSE THAN THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT.
IN TERMS OF NO, NO REALLY GREAT ALTERNATIVES.
SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS ARE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, JUST CHECKING IN, JUST DID YOU ALL HAVE A QUICK HIGHLIGHT OF WHERE THE, WHAT THE TIMING IS OR WHERE THINGS ARE WITH TWO 78 BEFORE THE BOARD ENGAGES IN A CONVERSATION AND REMEMBER YOUR MICROPHONES? UM, SO WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF PROCESS STANDPOINT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS STILL IN THE MIDST OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
THAT IS THE PREREQUISITE TO GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A SERIES OF STUDIES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE TO EXAMINE
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VARIOUS FACTORS RELATED TO THE PROJECT.UH, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CURRENT TIMELINE ENVISIONS BRINGING FORWARD A, UM, PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THE BEST OPTION, UH, IN TERMS OF DESIGN LOCATION LAYOUT, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS, SOMETIME IN MAY, THAT THAT IS THE MOST RECENT DATE THAT WE'RE BEING GIVEN AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THE WAY THE PROCESS WILL WORK ONCE THEY'VE BROUGHT FORWARD, THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THOSE COMMENTS GET RESPONDED TO, THEY GET POTENTIALLY INCORPORATED INTO THE PROCESS.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THERE'S GOING TO BE APPROVAL FROM BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, UH, TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING THAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY FOR PERMITTING APPROVAL.
UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE SUB AFTER THEY'VE RELEASED THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, UM, THAT WILL LIKELY BE SOMETIME, PROBABLY IN THE 30 TO 60 DAYS AFTER THEY'VE RELEASED THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
UH, THEY WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO OCCUR FOLLOWING ITS RELEASE.
UH, SO THAT'S, I WOULD ENVISION SOMETHING AT LEAST 30 DAYS AND PROBABLY NO MORE THAN 60 DAYS.
I QUESTIONED WHETHER 30 TO 60 DAYS AFTER RELEASE OF THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS CLOSE TO REALISTIC.
TO ME, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF STUDY.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR THIRD PARTY, INDEPENDENT ENGINEER, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
UH, AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WE COULD DO THAT IN 30 DAYS.
AND 60 DAYS TO ME IS ALSO VERY MUCH OF A STRETCH.
SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERING IF OTHER PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME ABOUT THAT.
WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING LETTING DOD KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE US.
IT'S TAKING THEM A LOT MORE TIME THAN THEY SAID.
AS I RECALL BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IT WAS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO US BY NOVEMBER NO LATER THAN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THEN IT WAS GOING TO BE JANUARY.
NOW IT'S THE SPRING, OR MAYBE EVEN THE EARLY SUMMER.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME GRACE PERIOD TO STUDY THIS THING, TO LISTEN, TO CONSTITUENTS, TO LISTEN TO EXPERTS, AND MAYBE TO CROSS EXAMINE THE EXPERTS EVEN FURTHER, OR BRING IN OTHERS WITH EXPERTISE TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO LET DLT KNOW, UH, WE WILL DECIDE, BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME.
LET, LET ME PREFACE MY COMMENTS BY SAYING THIS IS NOT
THIS IS MY BELIEF AS TO WHAT MAY BE COMING ALONG.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A HARD AND FAST DATE FOR ANY OF THIS.
I THINK THERE CERTAINLY IS SOME FLEXIBILITY.
NOW I WOULD SAY WITH THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING STUDY, IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY COMPLETED BEFORE THEY RELEASE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
THAT WAY, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF ALTERATIONS OR AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, THOSE ARE DONE BEFORE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS RELEASED.
UH, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I WOULD, I WOULD SEE THAT BEING DONE ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN THE BACKEND.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THERE IS FLEXIBILITY THERE.
ULTIMATELY WE, YOU AS A BODY NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE BEFORE YOU SIGN OFF ON THAT.
AND SO, DOC, I DON'T THINK IS GOING TO FORCE YOU INTO, TO A DECISION UNTIL YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, BUT THERE'S ULTIMATELY A REALIZATION THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO STRETCH THIS OUT FOREVER BECAUSE THERE IS A FINITE POINT AT WHICH TIME DLT WILL HAVE TO BEGIN WORK ON SOME PROJECT.
WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DELAYED ANYTHING.
WE HAVE RESPONDED WHEN ASKED WE HAVE, UH, GIVEN THE INFORMATION WAS NECESSARY.
SO ANY DELAYS HAVE NOT BEEN OCCASIONED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, IN MY OPINION AGREED, BUT THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR YOU, FOR YOU TO WORK ON THAT.
THAT WHEN WE GET INTO THAT PERIOD OF TIME, A GREAT DEAL OF OUR RESIDENTS HATE FOR THE MOUNTAINS WE GET INTO JUNE, JULY, MAY, JUNE AND JULY, GREAT DEAL OF HILL THAT HITS IN THE MOUNTAINS.
SO THE PEOPLE WE WANT TO ADDRESS, ARE WE GOING TO BE, UH, JOSH, COULD YOU DETAIL THE SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS OF OUR INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING FIRM? SURE.
AND WHAT IMPACT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ON THE ULTIMATE ALTERNATIVE OF CHOICE? YES, SIR.
THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER IS OPERATING UNDER A SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS APPROVED BY BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
AND IT OUTLINES ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING IS A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW
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OF THE DATA AND THE ANALYSIS THAT HAVE BEEN PERFORMED UP UNTIL THIS POINT, ESSENTIALLY WITH AN EYE TOWARDS EITHER IDENTIFYING OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT NEED OR WARRANT FURTHER EXPLORATION OR CONFIRMATION OF THE EXISTING ALTERNATIVES AS BEING THE MOST REALISTIC OR, UH, BENEFICIAL UNDERNEATH THE PARAMETERS TO WHICH THIS PROJECT IS BEING OPERATED.UH, SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME MORE NUANCES TO THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, I WOULD REFER YOU BACK TO THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS APPROVED BY BOTH BODIES.
CAUSE THAT, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO DRIVE THEIR PROJECT.
SO, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE TWO FUNCTIONS THEN, UH, EITHER EMBRACE THE ALTERNATIVE CHOICE OR COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER AND ALSO TO CHECK THE, THE ANALYTICS IN TERMS OF THE PREFERRED DIRECTION.
SO WE MAY, WE MAY POSSIBLY SEE, UH, SOME DISPARITY OF THOUGHT FROM THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER AND THE STATE, IS THAT CORRECT? CERTAINLY.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER IDENTIFIES THE NEED FOR ANALYSIS OF ALTERNATIVES, UH, IN A MANNER THAT THE STATE HAS NOT DONE OR SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS A, AN ALTERATION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.
IT IS NOT A ALL OR NOTHING DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE JUST THAT AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT LOOKED AT THE FIRST TIME AROUND BY DOD, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.
I AM ACTING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT ANY REPORTS THAT THE TOWN RECEIVES FROM THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER, BY THE WAY, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER? H D R AND AGAIN, YEAH.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE HDR STANDS FOR, BUT THAT IS THE NAME OF THE FIRM IN DURHAM AND RICHARDSON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EVERY ENGINEERING FIRM HAS THREE NAMES IN THEIR TITLE.
BUT ANY REPORTS, UH, VERBAL OR OTHERWISE WILL BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL.
UM, SO WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO'S PARTICIPATING AS A PART OF THAT, UH, PROCESS.
UH, HE IS PROVIDING UPDATES TO YOU ALL AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT REVIEW.
AND SO OF COURSE, ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF IT, YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED.
I THINK GLEN, A LOT OF THAT SHOULD BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC TOO, AS WE GET HERE, NO BIG SURPRISE AT THE END.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC VIEWING THEM.
SO THROUGH, AND THEY'RE STILL VIRTUAL, BUT THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO WATCH THE MEETINGS TAKING PLACE.
UH, I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR, IN TERMS OF THE SHARING OF INFORMATION, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT THIS WHOLE TIME, AS WE'VE ENGAGED WITH S DLT TO, TO GET INFORMATION.
SO IF THE THIRD PARTY, UH, EXERCISE IS ONE THAT WE ARE CONTROLLING, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL INFORMATION, MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING TO US AND THE PUBLIC, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW THOUGHTS.
UH, I MAKE THE FIRST OFFER UP THAT, UH, COUNSEL, UH, KEEPS FRONT OF MIND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE ADOPTED.
AND IF IT'S NOT TOO ELEMENTARY FOR US, I'D ALMOST LIKE TO HAVE THOSE READ EACH TIME WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT TWO 78 BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT SHOULD REALLY BE TO THE DISCIPLINE.
AND, UM, I'M HOPING THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT, UH, WE ARE TO CLIENT HERE AND THAT SE DLT IS NOT NECESSARILY IN CHARGE, RIGHT? UH, IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO AFFECT US IN THE LONGTERM.
UH, SO WE NEED TO BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT MORE SO THAN S C D L T.
UM, AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS IF WE APPLY OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UH, THAT WE ADOPTED, UH, THE VERY OUTSET OF THIS, THIS, UH, THIS EXERCISE.
UM, I, I DON'T, I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF THEY COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE COORDINATION OF THE LAND PLANNING EFFORT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO, UH, COINCIDE WITH THE THIRD-PARTY REVIEW.
SO THE LAND PLANNING EFFORTS BEGUN WITH STAFF, UH, WORKING TO ORGANIZE A NUMBER OF LOCAL LAND PLANNING FIRMS HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, UH, TO COME TOGETHER FOR A PUBLIC CHARETTE, UH, WHICH IS A PLANNING EXERCISE.
THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOK AT ITS DESIRES, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE PRODUCT THAT COMES OUT OF THAT, THE PLAN IS TO
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ISSUE A PUBLIC REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO HIRE AN INDIVIDUAL FIRM.THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE OF A DEEP DIVE ANALYSIS.
SO I GUESS I'M MORE INTERESTED IN HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW, OR IS IT A SEPARATE WE'RE VIEWING IT AS A SEPARATE OCCASION, BUT AGAIN, THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING REVIEW SPECIFICALLY LAYS OUT THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
NOW THEY CAN GO HAND IN HAND, BUT THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING REVIEW IS ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THE ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE LAND PLANNING EFFORTS, GOING TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT.
I JUST THINK THAT THE, THE, THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND TO ME, I THINK THAT THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOME INFLUENCE ON WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MAY HAVE BACK TO TOWN AND COUNTY COUNCIL BASED ON THE LAND PLAN AND EFFORT.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER IS WORKING ON IS VERY CLEARLY DEFINED.
AND THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES EXISTENCE IS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES THAT THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER IS GOING THROUGH, UNDERSTAND THE DATA THAT'S BEING ANALYZED, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT SO THAT THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATE IT BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, THERE IS NOT A LAND PLANNING COMPONENT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK OF THE, OKAY, I'M SORRY, I I'M I'M MISTAKEN BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THAT PIECE WAS ADDED.
AM I INCORRECT ON THAT THOUGHT WE ADDED THAT AS A COUNCIL.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IS IN THE SAME FORM AS IT WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED.
I THINK WE DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE LAND PLANNING, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOMEWHAT OF AN EXPECTATION DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UM, THE LAND PLANNING EFFORT MIGHT IMPACT OUR CHOICE OF THE PREFERRED OPTION.
OKAY, WELL, SO THAT, EXCUSE ME, SO THAT IT WOULD BE IN MY MIND NECESSARY TO CONNECT THOSE TWO IN ORDER TO GIVE THE LAND PLANNING EFFORT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPACT OUR CHOICE AS A COMMUNITY IS WHAT OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE MIGHT BE.
FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, THE DATA IS GOING TO DRIVE THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT AND OUTLINING THE PARAMETERS FOR WHICH IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO MEET THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WERE SET FORTH AT THE OUTSET OF THE PROJECT AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT DATA IS GOING TO DRIVE THAT ALTERNATIVE.
LOOKING THE LAND PLANNING THEN COMES IN AND SAYS, ONCE WE KNOW WHERE THE ALTERNATIVE IS GOING TO GO, HOW DO WE TAKE THAT AND APPLY IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT ARE IMPACTED THE POINT BEING, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROJECT IS GOING TO GO, YOU CAN'T PLAN AROUND IT BECAUSE IF IT ENDS UP GOING TO THE NORTH, IT ENDS UP GOING TO THE SOUTH.
THE LAND PLAN THAT YOU'VE CREATED IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE.
SO I THINK ONE NEEDS TO NECESSARILY PRECIPITATE THE OTHER BECAUSE THE LAND PLANNING IS A FUNCTION OF LOOKING AT THE PROJECT AND THEN PLANNING AROUND IT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
I LOOK AT IT SOMEWHAT FROM THE OPPOSITE ADVANTAGE POINT, AND THAT IS THE PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD DICTATE WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR THE ENGINEERING PROJECT.
NOT THAT THE ENGINEERING PROJECT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD BECOME THE DOMINANT ISSUE IN WHERE OUR COMMUNITY GOES.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON GLENN'S COMMENT THAT THE 30 AND 60 DAY WINDOW, UM, OUTLOOK, WHILE I REALIZE IT'S NOT HARD AND FAST FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE ALL ENGAGED IN.
NOW IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT IS WILL FALL VERY SHORT OF WHAT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE THE OTHER PIECE THAT I HEAR IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THERE'LL BE A PRESENTATION AND AN APPROVAL AND IT'LL MOVE ON AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO NOT ONLY US, BUT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THOUGHT THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR US.
AND, UM, YOU CAN HEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WILL HAVE TO GO AND INTO THAT.
AND SO, UM, I'M NOT IN A RUSH OR HURRY TO DO ANY OF THIS, OR TO EVEN SAY THAT I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING HOW IT ALL FITS TOGETHER AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY IN A POSITIVE WAY TODAY AND FOR THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DISREGARD, UM, OR HOLD BACK ON ANY EXPECTATION ON 30 TO 60 DAYS.
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ALL RIGHT.LET'S BRING US BACK TO COUNCIL HAS A REAL DISCUSSION ON IT.
AND WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK, MR. MAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I KNOW THAT WHEN, UM, THE LAST VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN ON THIS SUBJECT WAS FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE U S TWO 78 CORRIDOR COMMITTEE THAT WAS COMMISSIONED.
AND THE ONE ITEM THAT WAS MISSING WAS THE MITIGATION AND THE STONY AREA.
AND, UH, UM, I BELIEVE JOSH CAN, UH, SUPPORT THIS, UH, DURING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STONEY COMMUNITY AND SE DLT, UH, TOWN STAFF HAS BEEN THERE.
UM, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME FOR US TO REVISIT THAT.
UH, SO THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE CONCRETE THAT THE TOWN IS ACTING IN A, IN A, IN A MITIGATION FACTION TO A DEGREE NOT TO CUT ANY DEALS, BUT I THINK THE TRUST ISSUE CONTINUES TO BUBBLE UP BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN A COMMITMENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO YOU SUGGEST WE START BRINGING IT BACK TO DAVID'S COMMITTEE THAT YOU WERE ON? NO, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU JUST ALLOW STAFF TO ENGAGE IN SOME SOLID CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT AFFECTED BASED ON THAT MITIGATION PLAN THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BEGIN WITH.
WE CAN REVIEW THAT AS IT'S SPELLED OUT.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY IS THAT ALL THE NEWS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS, OR THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND DOING ONLY COME OUT THROUGH CAROLINE, WE HAVE TO, FROM THIS POINT ON, COME OUT WITH ONE VOICE AS TO NOT CONFUSE IT ANY MORE THAN WE DON'T WANT THE REST OF THE WORLD.
SO WE SHOULD PACK THEM WHICHEVER RELEASED AS OFTEN AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
BUT IT'S, YOU ALL GO THROUGH CAROLINE GUYS OKAY.
YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MR. MR. GOODMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR JULIAN.
YESTERDAY I SPOKE BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ROLE OF LEADERSHIP OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I SEE THIS SITUATION OF TWO 78 CORRIDOR, THE STONY COMMUNITY AS BEING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS OF JUST THE STANDARD HIGHWAY DESIGN COMMUNITY RESPONSE.
UH, WE HAVE LONG-TERM PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA OF I MINORITY POPULATION WHO HAVE BEEN GREATLY IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS THAT THE BROADER COMMUNITY HAS MADE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE SITUATIONS THAT ARE NOT UNLIKE SCORES OF EXAMPLES, OF MINORITIES OVER HISTORY AND HOW THE MAJORITY RESPONDS TO THEM.
AND SO I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS TRULY IS SOMETHING THAT OUR BRAIN CELLS CAN LOOK AT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY PROPERTY UP THERE, PUBLIC PROPERTY UP THERE.
WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS GREATLY IMPACTING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
NOT WITHSTANDING IT ALREADY HAS BEEN GREATLY IMPACTED.
SO I THINK THAT OUR CHALLENGE IN THIS CONVERSATION AROUND LAND PLAN AS MUCH MORE TO DO THAN THE TWO DIMENSIONAL SURFACE OF THE LAND, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW OUR COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO THE, THE, THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER TIME, THE IMPACTS THAT THEY'VE HAD AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THAT LAND PLAN TO RECOGNIZE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES ON THAT PROPERTY, NOT ONLY FOR THE BROADER COMMUNITY, BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY THERE OF HOW THIS LAND PLAN CAN LOOK AT, NOT JUST THE 500 FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR, BUT THAT BROADER AREA, AND LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S A LOT IN THAT, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO YOU, AND I THINK OUR MINDSET SHOULD BE WHATEVER DAVID JUST SAID, BUT FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND, WILL YOU VIEW ANYTHING ON YOUR ISLAND THAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD? AND WE SHOULD NOT MAKE THIS A NORTH END ART PROJECT.
YOU SHOULD BE OUR MINDSET FOR EVERYTHING WE DO, AND JUST START ON THE NORTH END TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
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I CAN GO.I, THIS, THIS IS OUR CHANCE OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH A BROADER ISSUE ON THIS ISLAND.
AND I THINK THIS, THIS LAND PLAN, THE CHARRETTE SHOULD BE CREATED WITH, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT IT'S NOT JUST A TWO DIMENSIONAL EXERCISE, THAT IT DEALS WITH THE ECONOMY, THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THAT AREA AND HOW THEY CAN BE, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH LAND OWNERSHIP IN THAT AREA.
THE, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO IN MY PRIVATE LIFE, I WAS, UH, DEALING WITH, UH, UH, UH, A NATIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.
AND, UH, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED.
AND, UH, BEFORE THEY INDICATED THE ARCHITECT WOULD BE HIRED AND IN THEIR SILO OF ACTIVITY, THEY WOULD, UH, MOVE FROM CONCEPT TO DESIGN.
AND THEN THE ENGINEERING PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEIR SYSTEMS COULD WORK WITHIN THAT DESIGN.
AND THEN THE INTERIOR DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT GROUP WOULD COME IN AND SAY HOW THEY CAN MANAGE THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
AND THEN THE OTHER SILO, THE INTERIOR DESIGN AND THE EXTERIOR LANDSCAPE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND SEE, UH, HOW THEY COULD, UM, PIVOT FROM WHAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE THEM.
AND THE MAJOR CHANGE I AM TOLD IS THAT THOSE SILOS ARE BEING REMOVED AND THOSE DISCIPLINES SIT AROUND THE TABLE TOGETHER, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IT'S A VERY CONCURRENT PROCESS SO THAT I DON'T DESIGN SOMETHING, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ENGINEERING DISASTER IN TERMS OF, UH, HEATING AND COOLING AS AN EXAMPLE.
UH, I SHARE THAT BECAUSE, UH, I THOUGHT ON THIS PROJECT HERE IN ONE OF OUR MORE RECENT CONVERSATIONS, UH, WE USE THE WORD CONCURRENT VERSUS SEQUENTIAL IF I RECALL.
AND WE, UH, YES, WE'RE W WE ARE PIVOTING FROM THE, UH, FIRST EFFORT AT, UH, WITH THE STATE ENGINEERS.
UH, AND NOW WE, UH, HAVE ENGAGED HDR.
AND THEN IN SEQUENCE, WE ARE ENGAGING THE LAND PLANNER, UH, TO DO IT AS RIGHT AS POSSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UH, I KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES AT DIFFERENT TIMES HERE, BUT, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO YOUR COMMENT ON TIMING, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
UH, I THINK IF WE DON'T DO THIS RIGHT, UH, THIS MONEY COULD DISAPPEAR.
UH, SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I THINK THE CHALLENGE BEFORE IS, IS, AND THESE AREN'T ABSOLUTES, BUT TRY TO MOVE FROM THE SEQUENTIAL PROCESS TO AN INTERACTIVE, CONCURRENT PROCESS, MORE THAN WE'RE DOING.
AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST WE THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND WITHOUT DISAGREEMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT AS LONG AS WE ARE ALL PARTICIPATING AND UNDERSTANDING EACH ONE OF THOSE STEPS AND HOW, ESPECIALLY, I AGREE, IT'S WORKING CONCURRENTLY, THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE IN FRONT OF US.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT SLIDE TO SHOW UP, TO KNOW HOW EVERYTHING IS INTERACTING.
SO IN THE END, WE TAKE A VOTE AND WE MAKE A DECISION.
AND EACH ONE OF US HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE VERY BEST DECISION THAT WE CAN FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, FOR THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE, AND FOR THE FUTURE OF THE REGION.
SO THE MORE INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE MORE DATA WE CAN ANALYZE AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE SHORTER, THE TIMEFRAME I IMAGINE BEING
JUST A DETAILED QUESTION, JOSH, WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE POTENTIAL DATE
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OF THE CHARRETTE? I WILL NEED TO TURN AROUND AND THROW THAT MID FEBRUARY.BIG ISSUES GOING ON ON YOUR ISLAND, FOR SURE.
LET'S GO BACK AND CHECK IN WITH YESTERDAY A LITTLE BIT.
THEN MAYBE WE WILL WAIT TO DO THAT.
JULIE, MAY I JUST MAKE ONE OBSERVATION? I DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING EARLIER, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, YESTERDAY, UM, WAS A, ALMOST A FOG OF CHOICES.
AND, UM, AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE SYNTHESIS OF WHAT DID WE REALLY SAY ABOUT WHERE THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING IF WE FOLLOW THE, THE, THE SIGNPOSTS OF OUR CHOICES YESTERDAY.
WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU A FIVE MINUTES TO GET A NEW CUP OF COFFEE, UM, AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND BE BACK WITH YOU.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US, UM, GET BACK INTO ZOOM OR BLUE JEANS.
SO WE HAVE OUR BLUE JEANS ON AND WE ARE READY TO GO.
UM, AND DAVID, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE DRIVING IN THE FOG WITH OUR, UH, BRIGHTS ON LAST NIGHT, WHICH HAS NEVER, NEVER A THING TO DO.
AND SO WE DO WANT TO KIND OF BRING YOU BACK TO WHERE YOU ARE, UH, AS YOU ENDED YESTERDAY AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH IT JUST SO YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID ARE A PRIORITY, AND MAYBE AS WE DO THAT, IT WILL HELP YOU ALL MAKE THAT INTERPRETATION, GIVEN THAT THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO GO AND HOW WE WANT TO FOCUS THE ENERGY OF THE TOWN STAFF.
I THINK IT WILL ALSO BE USEFUL FOR US TO TAKE ANOTHER CUT AT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, STILL HAVE MAYBE 50 ISH ITEMS, MORE OR LESS, THAT ARE PRIORITIES.
AND IF YOU HAVE 50 PRIORITIES, DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIORITIES? SO WE MIGHT MAKE YOU MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES.
WE ALSO WANT TO REVISIT THE NEAR, UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CERTAINLY ON YOUR HORIZON.
AND WE WANT TO DO THE SAME EXERCISE WE DID YESTERDAY, WHERE THE STAFF WILL LET YOU KNOW THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING WITH THE STRATEGIES, FOR THE GOALS IN THE NEAR GROUP.
AND HAVE YOU ALL TAKE A SHOT AT, AT WINNOWING THAT DOWN AS WELL.
SO FIRST KIND OF WHERE WE ENDED UP.
SO KATHERINE'S GONNA SHARE THESE ARE BY, UM, VALUES.
SO WITHIN EACH OF YOUR EIGHT VALUES, YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF PRIORITIES.
SO WITHIN EXCELLENCE, THERE ARE SIX.
SO IF YOU FOLLOW THE BIG, THE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES WORKBOOK, YOU CAN KIND OF MAKE A NOTE BY 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, TWO POINT 10, 3.4 AND 3.8.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID ARE PRIORITIES.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN SOMEONE LOOKING AT THOSE SIX ITEMS AND TAKING A STAB AT DOING EXACTLY WHAT DAVID SAID, WHICH IS, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU? IF THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT ARE WE SAYING?
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YES, I DO.I THINK EVERYTHING PIVOTS OFF, NUMBER ONE, THE BRAND, RIGHT? IF WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO BE THE MERCEDES BRAND, UH, VERSUS THE CHEVROLET OR THE FORD BRAND, THEN THAT DICTATES ON A QUALITATIVE KIND OF LEVEL, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT OURSELVES IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GUIDING PRINCIPLE.
SO EXCELLENCE PIVOTS ON BRAND.
DAVID, I THINK YOU BUILD THE BRAND BY DOING THESE THINGS.
THE PROBLEM I HAD WITH ESTABLISH A BRAND IS IT SOUNDS THAT IT'S AS THOUGH IT'S SORT OF A, WELL, WE PLUCK IT OUT OF THE AIR AND THEN WE DO THINGS TO GET THERE.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING YESTERDAY.
WHAT DO WE, WHAT'S A SOUL OF A COMMUNITY.
WHAT DO WE WANT TO REPRESENT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD? SO I THINK THAT W IN, IN SOME WAYS WE HAVE A BRAND ALREADY AND WE JUST HAVE TO REINFORCE IT, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DECIDE, WHERE DOES THAT BRAND TAKE US IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TODAY? IF THIS IS STILL YOUR BRAND, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO KEEP IT THERE? BECAUSE IT WON'T JUST STAY THERE.
SO THAT'S SORT OF THE PART THAT I GET HUNG UP ON THIS ONE AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S ESTABLISH A BRAND FOR THE TOWN.
THE FIRST WORD, UM, ESTABLISH HILTON HEAD HAS AN ESTABLISHED BROWN BRAND, IN MY OPINION.
UM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT THE BRAND REFLECTS OUR IDEAS OF EXCELLENCE AND CORE VALUES.
SO UNLESS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHANGING OUR BRAND, WHICH IS A BIG DISCUSSION AND PROBABLY WORTHY OF, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER TWO-DAY RETREAT, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL BOUGHT INTO, THAT WE'VE ALL HELPED TO BUILD OVER THE COURSE OF TIME IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND THAT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REFLECT THAT IT REFLECTS OUR IDEAS OF EXCELLENCE, WHICH HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, UM, AS WELL, BUT REINFORCED IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW.
SO PAGE SEVEN OF THIS LITTLE HANDOUT HAS WHAT YOUR 14 IDEALS OF EXCELLENCE ARE.
AND THE IDEA THEN IS THAT YOUR BRAND REFLECTS THOSE IDEALS.
ACCORDING TO THIS ITEM, IT JUST MIGHT'VE BEEN ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD, UM, PRETTY STRONG AGREEMENT.
I MADE SMILEY FACES YESTERDAY, NEXT BREAK, AND WENT BACK TO FIND MY FEET.
I THINK THAT EXCELLENCE IS OUR OBJECTIVE.
IN MANY WAYS, WE ALREADY HAVE EXCELLENCE, BUT IN SOME WAYS WE DON'T HAVE EXCELLENCE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRAND.
TO ME, WHAT I THINK IS, I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I CAN'T EXPRESS IT.
WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF PROTECTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF TOURISM.
WE HAVE AN, A BRIGHT AND INTELLIGENT POPULATION THAT IS ENGAGED IN VOLUNTEERISM, ET CETERA, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY EXPRESSING THE BRAND.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY I HAVE TROUBLE QUANTIFYING WHAT THAT IS.
AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS PARTICULAR STRATEGY DEALS WITH ESTABLISH A BRAND RATHER THAN REINFORCE THE BRAND OR POLISH THE BRAND, OR, UH, SHARE THE BRAND, PUBLISH THE BRAND, WHATEVER TERMS YOU WOULD USE THERE.
SO AGAIN, I, THIS IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT I HAVE TROUBLE GETTING A HOLD OF.
WHEN I THINK OF A BRAND, I THINK, UH, I AGREE IT'S AN AMORPHOUS CONCEPT.
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IT TO SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO ME, IT'S A BEST IN CLASS WITH EVERYTHING WE CHOOSE TO DO.SO IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE A PART THAT SHOULD BE BEST IN CLASS, IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT SHOULD BE BEST IN CLASS, IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE, UM, AN EDUCATION SYSTEM, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, I GUESS I'M NOT, I'M NOT AS HUNG UP ON, UH, THE REBRAND.
I THINK WHEN YOU, YOU STILL HAVE TO REALLY PEEL BACK ON THE STRATEGIES, IT'S POINTING US IN A DIRECTION OF, UH, PROTECTING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, BUT ALSO FEEL AS IF IT'S REALLY SAYING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SHOPPING IN OUR TOOLS TO A DEGREE, RIGHT? UM, NO, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE PAST.
UM, BUT ANY ORGANIZATION, ANY MUNICIPALITY, ANY COMMUNITY WANTS TO CONTINUE FOR EXCELLENCE AND GET BETTER.
UH, SO WHEN YOU START PEELING SOMEBODY BACK AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON, UH, ON 3.8, UM, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES AND STANDARDS FOR PROCESSES AND POLICIES AND PROJECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO BACK TO A COMMENT THAT I MADE ON YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW, HOW WE MEASURE AGAINST THESE GOALS AND STRATEGIES IS IMPORTANT.
UM, SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY FOCUS ON THE, THE STRATEGIES AND WHERE THAT'S TAKEN US.
I THINK IT TAKES US TO, THIS IS PROBABLY BAD TERMINOLOGY, BUT NEW EXCELLENCE, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I MENTIONED YESTERDAY THAT AS THINGS CLIMB THE LADDER BEFORE THEY GET TO TOWN COUNCIL, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UH, PARTICULARLY THAT, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND HOW THOSE FOLKS IN IRAQ DECISION-MAKING, UM, MAYBE THE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE.
WE, UH, WE HEARD PLANNING COMMISSIONER LAST WEEK HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON REZONING IN AN AREA.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT, UH, THE TOOLS THAT THEY WERE USING WAS SHARP ENOUGH FOR US TO GET TO EXCELLENCE.
UM, SO MAYBE IT'S, UH, UH, NO RESET OF THE WAY THAT WE FOLLOW A PROCESS TO GET THE POLICY CHANGES THAT MAY HELP US CONTINUE TO HOLD UP OUR BRAND OF EXCELLENCE.
NOT SURE IF I ARTICULATED IT WELL ENOUGH FOR YOU TO CAPTURE IT, BUT ALEX, I THINK THAT'S A TARGET WE OUGHT TO BE SHOOTING AT.
AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO IT'S REALLY THE, IN ALL OF THIS, AND I KIND OF GO BACK TO THE WAY YOU ALL FRAMED IT.
IT'S OUR PLACE, OUR PEOPLE, OUR PLANNING AND PROCESSES.
AND IT, IT ALMOST SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE'RE GOING TO LEVEL UP, WE'RE GOING TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT FOCUSING ON THESE 14 ITEMS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN PAGE SEVEN AND LEVELING UP EVERYTHING WE DO AS IT RELATES TO PLACE PEOPLE AND PLANNING PROCESS.
IS THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING? OKAY.
UM, I'M GETTING CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT OUR JOB IS HERE.
UH, I THINK AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, I THINK WE'LL, WE WILL BE, WE, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND WE WILL BE VOTING ON MOVING IN A DIRECTION OR A PARTICULAR DIRECTION.
UH, AND LET'S USE PARKS AS AN EXAMPLE.
THEN I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S OUR CORE FUNCTION.
HOW, AND THEN WE, WE PUT, UH, WE CREATE, UH, A FEATURE ANALYSIS GRID FOR THE STAFF SAY, OKAY, WE WANTED TO BUILD A PARK HERE.
IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IN YEARS TO THE BENEFIT OF NOT ONE GROUP, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA.
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DIVING INTO THIS, UM, I'M HEADING INTO A GRAY ZONE BETWEEN OUR ROLE IN THE STAFF WORLD.SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS LOOK AT THE DETAIL OF WHAT YOU DECIDED YESTERDAY, OR WHAT YOU COMMUNICATED YESTERDAY AS PRIORITIES, AND TURN THAT INTO, BACK TO THAT BROAD DIRECTION TO THE STAFF.
IT'S LIKE, SO IT'S WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU BY HAVING IDENTIFIED THESE SIX ITEMS AS PRIORITIES IS DOT.DOT.
AND I, AND I, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, I TRIED TO SAY THAT IT'S LIVE OUT, BE INTENTIONAL WITH THOSE IDEALS OF EXCELLENCE AND LEVEL UP EVERYTHING WE DO WITH REGARD TO PLACE PEOPLE AND PROCESS, BUT THAT'S THE BROADER DIRECTION.
SO IF WE HIT THAT, IF WE NAILED IT, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT'S, WHAT THE MESSAGE IS.
WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, PROVIDE CONTEXT AGAIN FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID YESTERDAY, WHICH GOT VERY TEDIOUS AND VERY GRANULAR AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE DID.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING TAMRA.
I THINK THAT LEVELING UP IS CERTAINLY, UM, THE GOAL.
UM, AND MAYBE, UM, I GET HUNG UP ON 1.1 BECAUSE OF THE WORD SMITHING THAT I WOULD HAVE RATHER SEEN, UM, WITH THE FIRST WORD.
SO THE IDEA BEHIND IT ISN'T AS MUCH IN CONTENTION FOR ME AS IT IS.
UM, I'M JUST NOT HAPPY WITH THE WORD.
SO WHEN YOU READ IT, YOU COULD PUT R E IN FRONT OF ESTABLISH, OR YOU COULD SAY REFRESH, OR YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TWEAK THAT TO MAKE IT WORK, WORK FOR YOU.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT'S THE STRUGGLE IS WE HAVE A BRAND IT'S HOW DO WE EVEN ENHANCE THAT EVEN YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE ON EXCELLENCE BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT GROUPING? YES.
I THINK, UH, IN, IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE CHOOSING TO COMPETE WITH AND PARTICIPATE IN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I WILL USE TWO, THE EXAMPLES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO US, KIAWAH ISLAND AND SEA ISLAND IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, EXCELLENCE IS THE BASELINE AND THE RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMERS OF THESE ENVIRONMENTS EXPECT NOTHING BUT THIS.
AND SO YOU AREN'T RECOGNIZED FOR SUPPLYING OR CREATING AN EXCELLENCE ENVIRONMENT AS THE ENTIRE CUSTOMER BASE, IF YOU WILL ALREADY EXPECTS IT.
SO WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THIS TO COMPETE WITH AND SURVIVE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
AND I THINK IF YOU WENT TO STAFF AND AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THESE TACTICS, IF YOU WENT TO STAFF AND SAID, DO ALL OF THIS, UH, I, MY GUESS IS THE RESPONSE WOULD BE, I CAN DO ALL OF THIS IF YOU ALLOCATE THE RESOURCES.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALTHOUGH WE WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND I GUESS WE SHOWED IT YESTERDAY, ALTHOUGH WE WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS, UH, THE TOUGH JOB IS, UH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE RESOURCES AMONG THAT WHOLE LIST, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.
SO A LITTLE, A LITTLE SIMPLER PERHAPS HERE.
UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF ENVIRONMENT GOALS THAT ENDED UP IN THE NEAR OR NEXT CATEGORY.
SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEALT WITH THOSE STRATEGIES.
THE ONES THAT YOU PRIORITIZED ARE THESE TO COURAGE AND OFFER OPTIONS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT OF STRUCTURES AND SITES, SO SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, AND FIND WAYS TO USE TOWN PROPERTY, TO SHOWCASE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESENTATION ITEMS 2.2 AND 4.2 UNDER ENVIRONMENT, WHICH STARTS ON PAGE TWO PAGES TWO AND THREE.
THIS IS SHOCKING AND DISAPPOINTING.
HOW SO? BECAUSE ONE OF OUR ABSOLUTE
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CORE INGREDIENTS OR CHARACTERS OF OUR BRAND IS ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.AND WE ARE SHOWING BASED ON JUST TWO ITEMS, VERY LITTLE COMMITMENT TO DOING THINGS PROACTIVELY IN THE AREA OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, RESILIENCY, WATER, PRESERVATION, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
WE VOTED NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN BEING PROACTIVE IN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP BY JUST LOOKING AT THESE TWO ITEMS. SO WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT THOUGH, IS A NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE WENT, WHEN JOSH WENT THROUGH THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE ALREADY DOING, SO MANY ITEMS IN THIS CATEGORY CAME OFF THE LIST.
SO MANY POTENTIAL NEW STRATEGIES, BECAUSE THEY WERE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING.
AND SO I, YES, THERE'S TWO NEW THINGS THAT YOU'VE ADDED THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S A PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE.
I MEAN, I PARTICIPATED IN THAT VOTE AND IN A LOT OF CASES, I DIDN'T CLICK ON A PRIORITY THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
UH, BUT I'M JUST MAKING THE OBSERVATION THAT THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH STANDS ON THE FOUNDATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP IS NOT SUGGESTED IT'S NOT BY THIS VOTE IS NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING MUCH ABOUT ENERGY, WATER PRESERVATION, SO ON RESILIENCY.
SO YEAH, I HAVE A REACTION TO THAT, AND THAT IS THAT IN THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH YESTERDAY, WE DIDN'T SAY, OR AT LEAST I DIDN'T SAY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, I ONLY WANT TO DO THESE TWO THINGS.
RATHER WHAT WE DID WAS WE REACTED TO WHAT THE TOWN IS ALREADY DOING IN STAFF EFFORTS AND ADDED THESE IN ADDITION TO THE LIST.
AND I DON'T, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE TIME NOW TO GO THROUGH AND READ EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF IS ALREADY DOING, OR THE TOWN IS ALREADY DOING HERE.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT, DAVID, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE EXCLUDED PROTECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, FROM, UH, OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIONS OBJECTIVES IN THIS PLAN.
THE ONE THAT I WILL JUST KIND OF ADD, YES, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.
AND THAT CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
IT IS TRUE THAT WITHIN THIS ENVIRONMENTAL CORE VALUE, FOUR OF THE SEVEN GOALS LANDED IN NEAR OR NEXT, AS OPPOSED TO NOW.
SO THREE OF THE GOALS ARE HERE IN NOW, AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ANY FURTHER ABOUT WASTING RESILIENCE, WHICH WOULD BE IN NEAR AND THEN ENERGY AND AIR QUALITY, WHICH ARE NEXT.
SO WHAT I HEAR DAVID SAYING IS, ARE WE, ARE WE DOING ENOUGH? ARE WE SAYING WE WANT TO DO ENOUGH IN THIS AREA AS A QUESTION OR A CONCERN? IS THAT FAIR? OKAY, TAMARA, YOU JUST WANT TO PUT A SPIN ON, UM, ON THESE THAT, UM, I'M ENCOURAGED BY.
AND I THINK STAFF ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THOUGH IT WASN'T TAKEN OFF BECAUSE DEF HAS CURRENTLY DOING IT, I THINK THEY DO CURRENTLY DO IT.
UM, I THINK THAT THEY CURRENTLY DO IT AND ARE EAGER TO DO IT MORE, WHICH WE'VE ALLOWED OR SUGGESTED OR WHATEVER THE WORD IS THROUGH THESE, WHICH IS FOR INSTANCE, FIND WAYS TO USE TOWN PROPERTY, TO SHOWCASE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION.
I KNOW THAT TOWN STAFF HAS BEEN HEARING FROM SOME GROUPS THAT HAVE SUGGESTIONS WITH REGARD TO HOW THEY MAKE A CORRIDOR THAT ENHANCES, UM, PEOPLE'S ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECOLOGICAL ATTRIBUTES AND RESOURCES THAT ARE HERE ON THE ISLAND.
SO I BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING THAT.
AND NOW WE'RE SAYING DEFINITIVELY CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND WE WANT YOU TO, TO, UM, HYPE, TO COME THROUGH ON MAKING THOSE PRESENTATIONS TO US AS A COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND IMPLEMENT THEM.
OKAY, MS. NOVICK, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, I DON'T WANT TO TURN TO THE BACK OF THE BOOK YET, BUT TO GIVE US SOME CONFIDENCE, BECAUSE
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I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THIS SCENARIO AGAIN.UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE NEAR COLUMN, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GOING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN OUR REPORT OUT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
IS THAT, AM I SAFE IN SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL BE IN THE REPORT? IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'LL BE THE TOP PRIORITY DIRECTION TO THE STAFF.
SO I, I WOULD SAY THIS, THERE'S JUST A SENSE OF MAYBE QUESTION OR CAUTION HERE.
HAVE WE DONE ENOUGH? MAYBE WE HAVE, LET'S BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS WHOLE PLAN AS KIND OF LOVELINESS UP AND REINFORCING OUR COMMITMENT THAT THIS MAY BE AN AREA AS WE EXPLORE NEAR THAT MAYBE WE MAYBE THERE ARE NEW THINGS WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE LIST.
OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE ECONOMY.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW THINGS.
IF YOU WILL, TO READ THESE NINE ITEMS AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM IN YOUR BOOK, TRY TO MAKE THEM VERY AT 1.1, 2.3, 2.5 1.1 2.3, 2.5 3.4, 4.6 5.1 5.4 6.1 AND 6.4, READ THOSE.
AND LET'S TAKE A STAB AT WHAT IF THESE ARE OUR NINE NEW PRIORITIES? WHAT ARE WE SAYING? AND ARE THESE IN SOME KIND OF A PRIORITY ORDER BASED ON OUR VOTES, THEY ARE NOT YET.
ALL OF THESE WERE THE PRIORITIES, BUT WE CAN DO THAT STEP.
SHOULD WE WANT TO? WE ARE PREPARED.
SO IN THIS AREA IN ECONOMY, ALL OF THE GOALS WE'RE IN THE NOW CATEGORY, NONE WERE NEAR OR NEXT, ALL WERE IN THE NEAR NOW.
SO WHAT IS THIS SAYING TO YOU? WHAT'S THE OVERALL MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING BY SELECTING THESE ITEMS AS YOUR PRIORITIES? UM, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN WITH MY FIRST REACTION, BECAUSE I THINK, UM, FOR ME, IT'S A PRIORITY.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, ECONOMY AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THE ISLAND SPECIFIC TO OUR ISLAND.
AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY THAT WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON.
UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S ENOUGH FOR NOW, BUT I THINK THAT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AND BROUGHT TO LIFE.
SO THERE'S A NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.
OKAY, JULIA, UH, TWO, THREE THINGS COME TO MY MIND.
UH, AND IN A COUPLE OF THE AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THINGS TO ATTRACT NEW TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND YOUNGER, YOUNGER, A YOUNGER POPULATION COHORT.
I THINK THAT THOSE TWO ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THE LONG-TERM.
UH, THE SECOND WHERE THE SECOND PART OF THAT, THE ATTRACTING THE YOUNGER COHORT, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS ARE GOING TO COME FROM ON THIS ISLAND.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF ENERGY AND TALENT ON THIS ISLAND AT THIS POINT.
AND WE SHOULD BE REINFORCING THAT IN AS MANY WAYS AS WE CAN TO ATTRACT EVEN MORE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
SECONDLY, COVID HAS GIVEN US A GLIMPSE OF WHAT A BUSINESS AT HOME LOOKS LIKE, AND WE SHOULD
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BE DOING EVERYTHING TO ATTRACT THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LIVE HERE ON THE ISLAND.THE SECOND IS THE HEALTHCARE ISSUE, AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR RETIREE POPULATION AND THE FUTURE OF SORT OF THE BEST IN CLASS RETIREMENT, UH, GOAL.
AND THEN THIRDLY, THE WHOLE HOUSING ISSUE IS INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNCIL HAS BEEN WRESTLING WITH FOR A FEW YEARS AND TO MY, UH, UH, WAY OF THINKING, UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH.
WE HAVEN'T MADE THE COMMITMENT THAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG PRIORITIES IN THIS LIST UNDER OUR ECONOMY.
SO BROADEN OUR, UM, OUR INTEREST IN ATTRACTING WORK FROM HOME PROFESSIONALS, REINVIGORATE THE ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TERMS OF FILLING STOREFRONTS AND, AND BUSINESSES, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE LEAVING, MAKE SURE WE HAVE HEALTHCARE FOR OUR RETIREES AND HAVE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE SERVICE ELEMENT OF THE ECONOMY.
THE ONLY THING THAT YOU DIDN'T MENTION THERE IS THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE INTENTIONAL IN ATTRACTING A YOUNGER DREAMT GENERATION OF PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENTREPRENEURIAL AND BRING CASH AND CAPITAL INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? I THINK THERE'S A, THERE IS A GROUP OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE SHOULD BRING THEM TOGETHER AND ASK THEM HOW TO DO THAT.
AND I SECOND WHAT HE SAID IN THE, THE CATEGORIES THAT HE BROKE THESE DOWN INTO.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENT IN THERE.
UH, AND IT, IT IS I GUESS, TO A DEGREE SECONDARY TO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINS A PRIORITY.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BABY, GOING TO GO AWAY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF BRINGING THAT COMMUNITY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OUR FUTURE WITH, IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP AND BUSINESS SUFFER ATTORNEYS, ET CETERA, TOGETHER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE, WE DO TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WE TALK ABOUT WORTH, OF COURSE, HOUSING THROUGH INITIATIVES.
WE HAVEN'T IN MY MIND, HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
MAYBE SOMEONE CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE WITH THAT, WE NEED TO FIND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I USED THE TERM YESTERDAY.
IS IT JUST BEDS AND PILLOWS, OR IS IT A COMMUNITY AND AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME START, THEIR BUSINESSES BEGIN THEIR LIVES AND CREATE, UM, THEM PUT THEMSELVES IN TO THE, UM, INTO THE COMMUNITY AS ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS.
WHAT IS IT THAT FOLKS WANT? IS IT THE SAME THING WE WANTED? IS THERE SOMETHING NEW? I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKED, I'VE ASKED YOUNG PEOPLE RECENTLY WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT QUESTION HAS NEVER BEEN ASKED TO THEM, WHAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES ON THE ISLAND WHO ARE ENCOURAGING ME TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DO WE SET UP A SYSTEM HERE THAT WILL BRING YOUNG PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND WHO CAN WORK FROM HOME OR COME TO AN OFFICE AND WORK, BUT THERE'S AN INTEREST IN ALL OF THAT.
SO PEOPLE WANT JOBS, THEY WANT A PLACE TO LIVE.
DO THEY JUST WANT A BED AND A PILLOW, OR DO THEY WANT AN ENVIRONMENT BUILT IN FOR THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITY? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT MADE SENSE, BUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THAT DISCUSSION THAN JUST INCENTIVES AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND PUT IT OUT THERE.
UM, WE NEED TO BE INTENTIONAL.
SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST LIVING HERE.
IT'S ENGAGING HERE AND BEING A VIBRANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY COUNSEL WENT BACK.
AND, UM, I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, THE BEAUTY TO ALL OF THIS, ALTHOUGH IT DOES STRETCH OUT OF OUR REALM OF BEING A LIMITED SERVICE
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GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO ENGAGE WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THIS INTEREST BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THIS WAS DEVELOPED.RIGHT? SO, UM, THE CONTINUATION OF THAT I THINK IS, IS KEY.
AND, UM, ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LINUX IN TERMS OF BEING, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVE HERE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT LIMITED RESOURCES, RIGHT.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO, TO PULL ALL THIS TOGETHER, UH, USING OUR CURRENT AMOUNT OF FUNDING, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S UPON US TO, UH, THE CHARGE MR. ORLANDO WITH FINDING US SOME NEW MONEY.
THERE HAS TO BE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT SUPPORT SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT WE HAVE NOT TAPPED INTO YET.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP, KEEP IN MIND MOVING FORWARD.
AS I LOOK AT THAT LIST, I'M ASKING MYSELF THE QUESTION, WHERE IS THE, WHAT IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL CALL FOR THE TOWN? AND I THINK IT'S, I WOULD SUBMIT IT'S A NUMBER OF FIVE, 4.6, AND THE OTHERS CAPITAL CALL YOU INTO INVEST MONEY, RIGHT? AND FOR MANY OF THE OTHERS, TO A LARGE EXTENT, UH, THROUGH INCENTIVES OF THROUGH A RECRUITMENT, WE CAN BRING OTHER PARTIES INTO THE COMMUNITY, A KID TO HELP.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON A WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE PROBABLY CAN DO A LOT IN TERMS OF INCENTIVE.
WE COULD USE INCENTIVES, UH, TO HELP IN MY COMMENTS AREN'T EXCLUSIVE.
BUT WHEN YOU COME TO PARKS AND RECREATION, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO STAND TALL ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN THE OTHERS, UH, TO OUR LESSER EXTENT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO US FOR THE SINGULAR SOURCE OF CAPITAL.
MY CONCERN IS YOU'LL LOOK AT 3.4, NUMBER FOUR, 3.4.
WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT FOREVER.
SO EITHER WE CAN DO SOMETHING, WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING.
WHAT I SEE IN FRONT OF ME, HE HAS A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, A LOT OF WORDS, HOW DO WE GET ANYTHING DONE? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S THE ACTION ITEM OF SOME OF THIS STUFF? I MEAN, YOU NEED TO ENCOURAGE RE-PURPOSING OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE.
THAT'S BEEN ON THE AGENDA FIT EVER SAW ME BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL.
AND THREE, BEFORE THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF A SOLUTION SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, YOU SORT OF BITE THE BULLET AND MOVE ON.
BUT HOW MANY MORE LIKE THAT? I MEAN, YOU NEED SOME ACTORS FROM TIME TO TIME SCHEDULES ON YOU, SOME DEADLINES OR THE LIST WILL GET BIGGER EVERY YEAR.
THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD, IMPORTANT POINT.
YOU ALL TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT PRIORITIES, THEN ASSIGNING RESPONSIBILITY AND ENSURING ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND THESE THINGS WILL GO BACK TO STAFF TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN AROUND WITH THE SPECIFIC, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH WHO'S IN CHARGE AND WHEN WILL THINGS BE DONE.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT ALL CAN'T BE DONE BY MARCH 31ST.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PACE IT OUT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
YES, MAYOR, UM, THE RE-PURPOSING AND REVITALIZATION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES DEPENDS ON OUR BEING ABLE TO MASTER PLAN AREAS THAT HAVE A PREDOMINANT PREDOMINANCE OF THOSE STRUCTURES AND DECIDE WHAT IS BETTER, WHAT WOULD BE A HIGHER AND BETTER USE FOR THOSE STRUCTURES IN TODAY'S ECONOMY AND THE ECONOMY THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS? SO THE FIRST THING WE OUGHT TO BE ASKING STAFF TO DO IS DESIGNATE TWO OR THREE AREAS IN THIS TOWN THAT HAVE A PREPONDERANCE OF UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL SPACE, DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS, AND SO ON, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM OUGHT TO BE OF THAT REVITALIZATION OF THAT AREA.
SO I SAY IT'S A MASTER PLANNING EXERCISE.
THEN SECONDLY, WE, AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE, UM, DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UH, THOSE STRUCTURES, UNLESS WE DEVELOP A PROGRAM MUCH LIKE OUR, UM, UH, OPEN SPACE PROGRAM BACK IN THE NINETIES, WHEN WE SAID, WE WANT TO TAKE LAND THAT HAS DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OFF THE TABLE TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE ON THIS ISLAND TODAY, WE NEED TO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT SAYS THERE IS A FUND TO PURCHASE THESE BUILDINGS, REDESIGNED
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WHAT WE WANT ON THAT PIECE OF GROUND, AND THEN PUT IT BACK TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO DEVELOP.SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF MASTER PLANNING AND THEN AN ECONOMIC PACKAGE THAT CREATES THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET INVOLVED IN A WAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT.
AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD ALL COME OUT OF THE COUNCIL.
YOU SENDING IT BACK TO THE STAFF TO DO SOMETHING, A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE SEND BACK, THE STAFF SHOULD BE DONE AT A COUNCIL LEVEL.
SO WHEN IT GETS US THERE, THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT AT THE BACKING AND DIRECTION AND OUTLINE FROM THE DOCTOR.
I MEAN THIS HERE WITH THE MASTER PLANNING AND EVERYTHING, YOU WOULD NEVER EXPECT THE STAFF TO COME UP ON THAT, THAT IDEA OF TICKLE DOWN ON THAT IDEA.
THERE WERE SO MANY ITEMS WE TALK ABOUT, LET ME REPHRASE TO GET AWAY.
THERE WERE SO MANY ITEMS WE DISCUSSED ALL THE TIME, THEN A RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF.
I SEE VERY FEW RECOMMENDATIONS BY COUNCIL TO STAFF.
I MEAN, WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE A COUNCIL THAT JUST REACTS TO THINGS THAT COME UP THAT'S WRONG.
I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THE MASTER PLANNING THAT SHOULD COME FROM COUNCIL, THAT SHOULD BE DIRECTED.
THERE HAS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO DO, NOT THE STAFF.
WELL, I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF ROLES, I MEAN, YOUR ALL'S JOB IS TO PROVIDE THE DIRECTION AND THE STAFF DOES THE IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH.
I MEAN, JUST TAKE THIS, TAKE OUR PLAN AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DO THE WORK AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION.
AND THEN NOW YOU'RE PRIORITIZING AND SENDING IT BACK TO THEM FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
I MEAN, THERE'S THE POLICY ROLE OF THE BOARD AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND IMPLEMENTATION ROLE OF THE STAFF.