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BED SO I'LL GET RIGHT OF THE TIME IS RIBAUT FIRED UP THE FILE WITHIN A MINUTES WE'RE

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S OUR CUSTOM THAT WE BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THEN WE COULD STAND AS THE FLAG RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE . I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED SET PIECE OF AMERICA AND TO TO RETURN TO THE FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL FOR PUBLICLY AGAINST THE COALESCE TO DOBSON OF THE

[4. ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

ATTENDANT. >> I HAVE SOMEONE TO COMPULSION TO ADOPT THEIR AGENDA I'M KEEPING OF THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE SO LITTLE THAT TO BE ADOPTED CAN GIVE SOMEONE A SECOND HOW SICK THAT SOUNDS CAN PROBABLY MADE THE SECOND ALL THE PAYMENT.

>> PEGGY YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - November 19, 2020]

19 MEETING IS ANYTHING AND EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE MEETINGS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNED? >> I HAVE NOTHING TO GET SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO STOP THE MINUTES. NOVEMBER 19 IT TROUBLED IT HAPPENED.

>> NOBODY MADE ITS. IT JUST WANT THE SECOND. >> WHO WAS THAT?

MR. SYLLABUS. >> I THINK THIS GOES THROUGH THE CHAIN SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY

MADE THE SECOND ONE IN FAVOR OF . >> ALL RIGHT.

[6. Mr. Robert Graves is requesting a Special Use Permit for Non-Tidal Wetland Essential Access from Table 5.11.110.A of the Community Development Code. The property is located on Graves and Fording Island Roads, Bluffton. The property is zoned C5RCMU/C4CCMU. (R600 021 000 004A)]

I ON OUR AGENDA. MR. ROBERT GRAVES WHO IS REQUESTING ESPECIALLY HIS

PERMIT OR NOT UNTITLED WHITLEY. >> MR. GREEN THE FIRST THE FIRST PERSON THAT'S GONNA SPEAK ON THIS SIDE AND I'LL BE UP WELL WHO'S THE ENGINEER ON THE SIDE?

>> AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A DEDICATED TO BAN KI FOR AN ENTIRE SEMESTER JOBS.

SO GO AHEAD. OH MY GOD. MUTE YOURSELF.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. GET TACKLING WITH RICHARD DAVIS. FLOYD SUBMITTED THIS PERMIT FOR THE CROSSES ON BEHALF OF THE GRAVES. OVER A PROJECT MELBOURNE AGREEMENT WITH COUNTY COURT.

THE GRAVE TRACT WAS A COUNTY PARK PROPERTY MAKE THE PRIMARY. THESE WETLAND IMPACTS IS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED STORMWATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. THAT SEEMS THERE'S A LOT OF OFFSITE DRAINAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE CONVEYED THROUGH THE GRAVE PROPERTY AND THROUGH THE COUNTY PARK PROPERTY TO THE RIVER. AND SO THESE IMPACTS ARE PROPOSED TO FACILITATE THAT EXISTING SHALLOW FLOODING ON THE PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THE WHOLE SITE DRAINAGE THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THESE IMPACTS ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AS WELL AS TO IMPROVE THE FUNCTIONING OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. FOR THE FOR THE COUNTY PARK AS WELL AS THE GRAVE PROPERTY OF FOLLOWING THE STEPS REVIEW OF THE PROJECT ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT BY THE COUNTY. WE WILL ALSO SUBMITTED FOR AND OBTAIN THE NECESSARY APPROVALS FROM OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCIES. FCB HEAD OF CRM COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY CHECHESSEE COASTAL STORM WATER FOR THE NIGHT DISTURBANCE PERMITTING AND IN THE ARMY CORPS FOR THE FEDERAL PERMITTING OF THE IMPACTS REQUIRED FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS TEMPORARY BLOCK GRANT.

NOW WILL BE TURNED DOWN THE DAY ON THAT AND OUR VERY OWN. WILL YOU SET A VERY HEAVY RAIN

OUT OF THAT IS DAN? >> YES. HERE WE CAN DANCE.

THANKS TRIPP FOR THAT SUMMARY. THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR LOSS TONIGHT.

THE MORE I'LL ADD THAT JUST REAL QUICK WOULD BE THAT THE CROSSINGS ARE SET UP FOR

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CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE PARCELS FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. BASED ON THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY AND AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE COUNTY PARK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE HERE TO ASK THEM NOW HANDED OVER TO BARRY BARRY, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO

CLICK YOUR MUTE BUTTON YOURSELF BEFORE YOU START TALKING. >> THANK YOU.

I THINK THEY HAVE BOTH COVERED THE HIGHLIGHTS. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKAGE IS A MEMORANDUM DATED JANUARY 8 FROM THE STAR T PROBABLY SENT THE OLD BOSTON AND THE ESCALADE T INDICATE THAT THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS UNDER THE APPLICABLE RULES. NEEDS TO BE FOR WHAT'S CALLED ESSENTIAL ACCESS AND THE DETAILED MEMORANDUM THAT WAS OFTEN SUBMITTED TO YOU INDICATES MEETS THOSE CRITERIA.

AND OF COURSE WE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO MINIMIZE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT TRAFFIC CONGESTION, INFRASTRUCTURE, GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES, AIR AUTHORITY I'M QUOTING FROM THE DOCUMENT JANUARY 8 HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ENVIRONMENT TRAFFIC OR ENVIRONMENT OR GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES. I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE TRIP MAYBE DOING IN HERE. THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF LAND IN WETLANDS THAT CAN BE IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT TRIP CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT AND THE PLAN THAT IT IS PREPARED IS ABOUT 10 PERCENT LESS. SMALL NUMBERS BUT IT'S IT'S LESS THAN WHAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THEREFORE THE OTHER AGENCIES WOULD SUBMIT TRIP. WOULD YOU UPDATE SONG ON THOSE TWO THINGS? HOW MUCH IMPACT IS PERMITTED AND HOW MUCH WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THESE WETLAND CROSS CARE SO THAT THE NATION WON'T PERMIT THAT WAS OBTAINED FOR THE PROJECT TYPICALLY LIMITS IMPACTS IN THE WETLANDS TO ONE HALF OF ONE ACRE. LOOKING UP THE EXACT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT THE EXACT NUMBER BUT WE DID AND DEFINITELY DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE THERE TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT. MIND I'M STILL BACK ON TRACK.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WERE PERMITTED TO ZERO POINT AN ACRE PARK.

WHAT YOU HAVE GOT ABOUT AS AN ENGINEER IS 0 4 5. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING DOWN NOW SO ZERO POINT FOUR FIVE ACRE TO WHICH I THINK OUR LIMIT ON CONDITION THAT PERMIT IS ALSO TO PRESERVE THE REMAINING WETLANDS.

PART OF THE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW THESE USES. RIGHT.

FINAL THING I WOULD SAY IS VIRTUALLY ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE WE'RE HISTORICALLY ON THEIR IN THE OPERATION OF THE FARM. THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY UNDER THE DEMAND THEY WERE THERE. LET'S ADD TO THAT, BARRY I MEAN THAT THEY ARE EXISTING AND WE DEVELOP UTILIZE THE EXISTING CROSSINGS WITH THE INTENT TO MINIMIZE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPACT

AREAS THAT EVERYTHING I THINK. >> SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS I MEAN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BELABOR YOUR TIME. WE THINK IT DISCUSSION COVERS THE MAIN POINTS.

I'LL GET SOMETHING I DON'T. >> OH YEAH. >> I BELIEVE IT JUST.

EXCELLENT QUESTION BECAUSE I FORGET THE GUY'S NAME, RIGHT. DAN KEEFER, DID YOU SAY THAT IT

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WOULD. THE COUNTING WOULD GAIN ACCESS TO THEM.

DO THEY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE TO THE COUNTING CURRENTLY? >> THAT'S THE POINT I CAN AND I CAN PROBABLY QUESTION BETTER THAN THAT. THAT'S A DEBATABLE POINT.

AND PRIOR TO THIS YEAR IT WAS THE AMENABLE. BUT WHENEVER WE GET THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE MEDIA GRANGE CORPORATE HALL A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEN WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO IT NOW. BUT ONE OF THE ACCESS INTO BEEN THROUGH ONE OF THOSE WETLANDS AREAS AND THE SITUATION WITH THIS PROPERTY IS THAT THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS A LOT OF FARM ROADS ON IT CURRENTLY. SO ALL OF THESE FALSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE OR EVEN SOME SORT OF FARM ROAD FOR ACCESS TO THE PATCH LAND OR TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE IS NOTHING NEW TO IT HAPPENING HERE THAT DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST.

THEY ARE IN MY OPINION GOING TO BE IMPROVED TO THE POINT TO MAKE MARK BETTER AND TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE WHEN THE ROADS ARE BUILT BECAUSE APPROPRIATE CULVERT , APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL TAKE PLACE AS A RESULT OF THE ABSENCE OF IT. THERE'S BEEN FARM RAIDS GOING ON ACROSS THE NATION.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE GREATLY I HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT. YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU TO SAY? YES, SIR. FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THESE CROSSINGS WITH WILL ALSO BE USED TO CARRY WATER AND SEWER SAFELY ACROSS THE WETLANDS AS PART OF THESE CROSSINGS FURTHER BEING EFFICIENT AND CONSOLIDATING THOSE IMPACTS.

AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THE GRAVES FAMILIES.

EIGHTEEN SEVENTIES AS A FARM AND SO THERE IS SIGNIFICANT FAMILY KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH CROSSINGS AND FAMILY USE OF THOSE CROSSINGS OVER THE LAST HUNDRED AND FORTY YEARS.

ROBERT HUNTER IN FORTY YEARS OR SO. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> DO ANYONE WANT TO PUT OUT

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT JUST ABOUT A TYPICAL CONSTITUENT MAY WELL HAVE YOUR CALL. THIS IS GREAT.

LOCKHEED MARTIN ON KIRK SMILEY JOHN BORDER THREE SIDES WITH THE GRAPES FAMILY AND THE ONE SIDE THAT IS ON BRAND OF DRY I GUESS LET IT OUT IS NAME DOWN THAT ROAD CULVERT UNDERNEATH

IT. >> SO THE WATER THERE ALL THE WAY DOWN ON THROUGH RIGHT NOW ALL DRY BUT ALL OF THE CENTER OF THAT SOUTH ROAD COMES DOWN AND IT TURNS SOME RANDOM POINT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CLOSURE THERE AND IT FLOODS THE WHOLE ROAD OUT.

I MEAN I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE TWO FEET OF WATER AT TOPS AND THEN IT WASHES A ROOMMATE. AND THAT'S WHY THE DITCHES AND I'M SKEPTICAL SPLIT ME UP BAD.

AND WHAT I DO IS I DON'T GET DIRT THAT GOES TO MY FIRST CONTACT BILL WHICH IS AT THE LOWEST PART OF THE PROPERTY AND IT DRAINS TO A DITCH THAT RUNS BESIDE ME.

>> BUT THERE WERE SOME TREES STEP FOR STEP BETWEEN ME AND THE DITCH THAT GOES INTO THE OKATIE RIVER BUT AT MY LOWEST TIME IT DRINKS INTO THAT MUCH STRENGTHENED TO THE OKATIE WITH THE RIBAUT AND I ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE FIELD THAT'S BETWEEN ME AND OKATIE RIVER.

>> IT'S BOTH GOOD AND WHEN IT RAINS ALL THAT WATER JUST LETS YOU KNOW.

>> SO MAYBE IF THERE WERE SOME TYPE OF BIG MOUND OF DIRT YOU KNOW LIKE SEVERAL FEET HIGH THAT WOULD WASH YOUR WAY UP WITH DIRT UP ALONG THE FENCE LINE BUT IT DISAPPEARS.

AND MAYBE A CULVERT OR SOMETHING BEFORE THAT AND THAT COULD PLANT SOME BUSHES, TREES AND PUT A FENCE OR WHATEVER MAKING BUSHES LIKE BLUEBERRIES ,SOME PLUMS THAT WOULD HELP I TO THIS I'M SURE YOU KNOW THERE IS A PACKAGE TO IT MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP TOO WITH THE NOISE

THAT'S GOING TO COME THE DEVELOPMENT TO DO HERE. >> BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S

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GOING TO BE LIKE CAME AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT TO NOISE POLLUTION.

WE CAN BE CAN IT WOULD HELP A LOT IF THERE WERE BIG MOUNDS OF DIRT.

ALONG THAT WAY TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING AND THE NOISE WHICH SO THAT YOU SET YOUR PROPERTIES ON

THREE SIDES OF THE GRAVES. >> SO THIS IS MADE HERE. THIS IS GRAVES.

AND ANOTHER SATISFYING POINT DROP MASS GRAVES. >> IT'S RIGHT HERE THAT RUNS TO THE RIVER AND THIS RIGHT HERE FEEL THAT BOULDER AND WHEN IT RAINS THE BLOOD YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THE WATER RUNS TO ME BECAUSE IT'S BELOW THEM CLOSEST TO ME.

AND THEN IT JUST FLOODS OUT HERE. AND BUT IF THERE WERE SLIGHT

MOUNDS, DIRT LIKE DIRT HERE AND A WATER OR SOMETHING. >> JOINTS THAT DITCH WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. DIG DITCHES THAT ARE THERE ARE THERE'S THE PIPE DOWN.

HENRY LET'S TALK SHOP AND THIS A WHOLE ADDRESS THAT COULD FILL THE COUNTY WOOD OR YOU KNOW SOME OF THOSE THAT YOU WOULD BE DRILLING VERY RICH PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE RESPOND TO THAT AT

ALL. >> I HAD A HARD TIME WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE LIVING

RICH THING AND I DID NOT GET HER LIFE TOGETHER. >> UNDERSTOOD.

AND I THINK HER PROPERTY IS TRAVELING TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE ROBERT GRAVES PROPERTY.

THERE'S OTHER GRAVES FAMILY PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF HERS THAT'S NOT OWNED IN ROBERT'S LINE OF THE FAMILY BUT HIS OWN ELSEWHERE AND SOME OF THAT MAY BE AFFECTING HER THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER. SHE MENTIONED I DID HEAR FRAN AND POINT ROAD ABOUT HALF OF WHAT IS CALLED BRANDON POINT ROAD IS NOT OWNED BY ROBERT GRAVES. IT IS. AND IT GOES IT GOES FROM GRAVES ROAD BACK APPROXIMATELY TO THE NORTH WESTERLY CORNER OF WHAT I THINK THIS LADY'S PROPERTY IS AND THAT IS OWNED BY JOHN GRAVES CHILDREN TEMPLATE AND HIS SISTER.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE SOME PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS WITH HER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS NOT AN ISSUE BEFORE THIS BODY TODAY.

THE AREA SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS ABOUT TWICE THE DISTANCE FROM HIGHWAY 278 TO THE MOST NORTHERLY WETLAND CROSSING THAT'S BEFORE YOU ON THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION ISSUE.

AND SO I DO WANT TO BE JUST THANKFUL TO HER. I THINK HER POINT IS IS OUT OF ORDER FOR THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTED TO LAND. IT'S 50 ACRES AWAY FROM WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE WETLAND CROSSINGS. BUT NEVERTHELESS WE ARE HAPPY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HER POSITION AND DO SOMETHING WE CAN REASONABLY DO.

I'M SURE THAT ROBERT WOOD WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT THAT THERE'S SOME REASONABLE OKATIE.

>> YEAH, I'M TRUSTING TO BE HERE CAUSE TO THEIR TO THEIR POINT YOUR ISSUE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT DOESN'T RELATE AT ALL TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AT ALL.

SO YOU MIGHT GET IN MY CAR AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO CALL ME TOMORROW AND THEN I CAN FIND OUT WHAT YOUR ISSUES WHEN I COME ALL THE WAY. WELL, MR. GRAVES AND PERRY WILL COORDINATE WITH YOU ON FRIDAY TRYING TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM. OK.

WE'LL BE TALKING TO. BUT ALL THEY'RE DOING TONIGHT IS TRYING TO SEEK PERMISSION TO APPEAL THEIR ROADS ACROSS THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. YOU ABOUT THAT KEPT FROM SO MANY. YEAH, I GUESS EASILY THAT'S AS YOU SAID VIRTUALLY QUALIFYING FOR HERE TO BE THE LEADER AND THEN YOU'RE PLAYING IF YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. YOU'RE YOU'RE FAR AWAY FROM THAT BUT YEAH. I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW AND WE'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REACHING FOR AND THEN I'LL COORDINATE. I'M OK.

AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THIS IS IT'S NOT ONLY I GET FLOODED OUT BUT IT ALSO INVOLVES BUMPS

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DOWN HERE EXPLAINING WHAT A LAW FIRM WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT ALL THE BAGGAGE WITH THIS PROJECT. UNDERSTAND FRUITS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. MAKE SURE YOU SEE A CAR WRECK.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I WANT TO DO IT TO SEE IF THE RECORD WE COULD HAVE THE LADY'S NAME IDENTIFIED SO WE KNOW WHO SHE IS SO WE CAN RELATE IT TO OUR CONCERN.

>> CARD MARVIN GAYE PART IS HER PARTNER DANNY BERRY. TAKE OUR K MART BADGE J.

J. BASIC THANK YOU. SHE MUST BE ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU TO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAPPENING COSTUMES OR ANY WONDER OF THE PORCELAIN.

>> WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL THE CLOTHES OF PUBLIC COMMENT BACK IN ANY WAY YOU SAID THAT ALL

RIGHT. >> MARK MARK, YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT.

>> I SAY ONE MORE TIME FOR. >> OK. IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION I NOTICED THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BUT THERE WAS ALSO A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT MOVED THE HOUSE CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO HAVE A 10

STEP BACK FROM THE BASELINE. >> I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT APPLICATION OR AM I LOOKING AT

THE WRONG ONE? >> I'M SORRY YOU WE HAVE THE RIGHT WITH THREE ITEM NUMBER

SIX WITH US. >> NO LOOK, I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE. I GOT IT CONFUSED, OK? >> SO I DIDN'T DO ANYONE ELSE HAD QUESTIONS A CONCERN DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A MOTION OUT ON THE FLOOR THERE.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D MOVE THAT WE FIND WHAT MOVE THAT WE BASED ON THE APPLICATION BEFORE US AND THE TESTIMONY THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE STANDARDS OF CDC SECTION SEVEN POINT TWO POINT ONE THIRTY POINT B FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REVIEW AND THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED WITH THE CONDITION THAT ANY VARIANCE FROM OR ANY VARIATION FROM THE PLANS EVER BEFORE THAT THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO US FOR FURTHER REVIEW

MOTION MAY. CAN I GET SOMEONE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND IT.

TIM I'LL SECOND IT. >> AND SECOND IS THIS MORNING. SO IT IS A MOTION IN THE FALL AND SECOND OF ALL IN FAVOR LET'S SAY RAISING THE 10 GUY AND A POLL THAT TO ALDERMAN

PETERSON. >> IT'S BEEN A LONG, SLOW DAY FOR THIS EXPENSES PERMIT HAS BEEN GRANTED AND THEN I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT YEAH. MARY, YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY ON. ARE YOU ALL ALTERNATE THE RAMP DOWN AT THE BOTTOM AND LEAVE YOUR MEETING IF YOU DO THAT? I HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. TRYING TO MAKE YOU THEY'RE NOT GETTING A BIG SO NO MOVING TOO.

[8. Mr. Earl Endicott is requesting a Variance from Division 5.11.50.B Beach Dune System - Structure within 50-feet landward of OCRM Baseline. The property is located on Red Drum Road, Fripp Island. The property is zoned Planned Unit Development (PUD). (R400 040 000 0447)]

>> I DON'T KNOW. EIGHT MR. FARRELL IN THE COURT IS REQUESTING FROM DIVISION.

THAT'S ELEVEN TIMES FIFTY WHICH DO SYSTEM MR. COME FLORIDA STATE WHAT YOU'RE A RETURNS

RIGHT. >> THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND RECENTLY WE BOUGHT A LOT AT 7 ELEVEN RED DRUM WE DISCOVERED THAT BY GOING WITH THE MINIMUM SQUARE FEET ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR

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THAT ONLY HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE CAN BUILD THIS HOUSE AND THE SETBACKS WAS REAL REAL GROWTH TIGHT AND OVER THE COURSE OF YEAR THAT'S THIS LOT HAS BEEN REALLY REALLY A WHOLE LOT AND OVER THE YEARS KEPT ON FREQUENT SMALLER AND SMALLER AND SO WE HAVE THIS MINIMUM SQUARE FEET FIRST FLOOR THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE AND EVEN WITH THAT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR VETERANS FROM THE FRONT OR THE BACK OF THE SIDE TO FIND THE

STARS. >> HAD TOM IT WOULDN'T MAKE TO IT WOULD HAVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAUSE IT'S BEEN A LOT THAT I HAD A LOT OF TREES DOWN IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS . SO WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND HENCE THE THIS THE FIRST TIME I EVER WENT TO MYSELF. PLEASE BE PATIENT BUT WE WE

JUST WAS JUST ASKING FOR MERCY TO ALLOW US TO GO THROUGH. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

PLEASE? GLAD TO ANSWER. >> YOU LOOK WHAT MEASURES HAVE YOU TAKE IT TO HELP THEM IN A FIGHT THE UNITED STATES SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING LIKE A FRONT OF THE HOUSE WHEN YOU START HAVING A FRONT COURT TO ACTUALLY DRAW THROUGH THE PLANTS AND THEN THE FRONT PORCH FIT INSIDE THE ORIGINAL PLANS.

>> SO WHAT TOOK A TRIBUTE IN FRONT OF US THEN MANY TO GET IT FROM THE TIME SO WE CAN MOVE BACK OR FRONT MAKE A MENTAL SETBACK? WELL WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DECK IN

THE BACK. >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE DISTINCT TORN OFF THE SIDE INSTEAD

OF THE BACK TO MAKE THAT MINIMAL. >> THE QUESTION FOR MANY THE

BOARD MEMBERS. >> YES, SIR. KEVIN , I HAVE ONE.

OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YES, SIR. HOW LONG AGO DID YOU PURCHASE

IS THIS LAST APRIL? MAKE UP 20 20? >> YES.

OK, SO YOU KNEW ALL THESE LAWS WERE THESE SETBACKS WERE IN EFFECT WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE LOT

? YES AND NO. >> I'M MAKING I WAS GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION, MISINFORMATION OUT THERE AND I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH IT.

I WAS WORKING WITH THE BUILDER AND MAKE SURE WE CAN ADD ORIGINAL PLANS ALREADY HAD A HOUSE PLACED IN THEIR AND WE WERE TOLD IT DIDN'T MAKE ANYTHING BIGGER WHICH WE DIDN'T WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THAT SMALLER THAN THEIR GOODS BASEMENT OF THE HOUSE.

MY MY WHOLE THING WAS THERE WAS A MINIMUM SQUARE FEET THAT WE COULD DO AT THE FIRST FLOOR.

SO I TOOK IT FOR GRANTED THAT MAYBE THAT WAS WRONG. BUT I TOOK IT FOR GRANTED THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD SELL A LOT OF I'M GOING TO SELL A AND IT WOULD MAKE THE STANDARD MEET MINIMUM SQUARE FEET. AND IN THAT SECTION OUR ZONE THAT'S PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

. >> SO THE REAL ESTATE AGENT DID DISCLOSE ALL THIS INFORMATION TO ABOUT A 50 FOOT BUFFER AND ALL THAT POINT FRANKLY THE I'M NOT SAYING YOU DIDN'T I DON'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS PAST MARCH. YOU KNOW, WE BY AND WITH YOU KNOW, I FIND PROPERTY THAT I'VE BEEN A BUILDER TO LOOK AT IT MOVE.

I MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH EVERY PROPER CHANNEL WITH CALL IT IT WAS IT WASN'T

EASY. >> RIGHT? YES, SIR.

IS THIS A SPEC HOUSE OR YOU MOVE IT INTO THIS HOUSE MOVING IN, YOU MOVE IT.

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MY ONLY CONCERN IS YOU MADE REFERENCE THAT YOU KEEP SAYING A LOT IS GETTING SMALLER

SMALLER. >> WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU THINK THAT'S NOT GOING TO CONTINUE? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEW NEW MAPS THAT CAME OUT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING OUT HERE

ANY TIME THAT'S NOT COMING UP, DON'T MOVE ON. >> I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS RESOLVE TO BE A 13 PERCENT IS YOU TALK AT THE FEMA MAPS FOR FEMA MAPS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BASELINE OF WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S A QUARTER MILE FROM THE BEACH.

>> EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEACHFRONT, IT'S A QUARTER MILE OF SAND AND THE HOUSE ON EITHER SIDE WATER OR THE SAME LINE AS FAR AS WE'RE NOT DEEPER AND WE'RE NOT IT'S THE SAME LINE AND DRAW A LINE FROM ONE OUT THE OTHER. I MEAN I DID ASK THAT QUESTION A LOT OF IS BUILDING A FOR WHAT I WAS PURCHASING THIS LOT I DID TO MAKE SURE WE CAN BUILD THAT AND KNOW I HAD MY BRO TO A LOT OF CALLS INTO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND I'M IN STONE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I WANTED TO DO BUT YOU KNOW, THEY NEEDED A QUICK SALE SO. SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRICE THE HOMEOWNER HAD TO CANCEL HIS PASSPORT. YOU KNOW I ONLY HAD THE SORT OF FAST CREDIT TO THE PUBLIC SITE ALSO FULL BOTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WHICH IT IS SO

WHEN I'M LOOKING AT BLOCK THREE. >> IS THIS JUST A PORTION HOUSE

ALWAYS THIS IS THE FRONT SIDE HOUSE RIGHT HERE. >> THAT'S THAT'S THE SELECTING THAT'S THE LEFT SIDE THAT DECK ON THAT WHEN WE MEASURE FOR THE HOUSE JUST IT WAS IT WAS SKINNIER OUR HOUSE SOMEWHERE LEFT OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSE TOWARDS ROW GOING ON THE RIGHT IT'S SKINNIER THAT ONE AND SAME SIZE AS THE ONE ON THE RIGHT EXCEPT THE ONE RIGHT.

>> IT'S A LOT LONGER THAN WHAT OURS WOULD BE BUT YOU'RE LOOKING FROM THE BASE LANDSLIDE YOU SAID YOUR HOUSE WOULD BE IN LINE. OH YEAH.

>> RIGHT INTO MY WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYONE ELSE LIKE THAT. OF COURSE THIS IS DONE AT THE

STANDARD. >> IF YOU DO DO EITHER OF THE HOUSES ON EITHER SIDE ARE THEY OVER THE LINE OR IS IT THE SHAPE OF YOUR LIFE THAT MAKES YOU OUR NOW THERE OVER THE BOTH MY OLDER ONE WAS BUILT IN AND THE 70S THE OTHER ONE WAS BUILT TWO THOUSAND FIVE SO THEIR GRANDFATHER DENNIS YEAH THEY DID GRANDFATHER THEN MATERIAL TODAY THEY WOULD DEAL WITH THE

PARENTS. >> OK WELL TO DOUBLE THE PRICE WE HAVE TO THAT KNOW SO IT

WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. >> SO I'M ASSUMING I CAN DO

SOMETHING YOU ALL SEE THAT I SEE A SMART I'LL SEE THAT. >> YES MA'AM.

YES. YES. AGAIN, 7-ELEVEN IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE. AND MORE THE ENDLESS 20 PER CENT BACK ON THE PRICE YOU CAN

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RIGHT NOW BY PUSHING IT WOULD GO BACK TO TWELVE POINT FIVE FEET FROM THE FRONT EDGE.

>> WE NEED A WE NEED TO HAVE THE PARENTS AT THE FRONT OR IN SIX AND A HALF PUT THEIR HANDS

. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S KIND OF ANGLE TO TRY

LIKE IT'S OKAY. >> AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT HERE ON THE LEFT UPPER SIDE WE'RE FINE. WE'VE GOT PLENTY COMPRESSING FOR THAT.

TWENTY FEET ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WE'VE GOT TWELVE POINT FIVE FEET.

>> YES. >> AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN AS FAR AS NOT BEING ABLE REACH THE BALANCE. SO WE HAVE TO THIS TO THE BACK HOUSE BACK TO THE PARENTS, TO THE FRONT. IT'S JUST KIND OF A WEIRD ANGLE ON THAT FRONT RIGHT CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE MAKE THAT TOP DOWN TO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY

DON'T HAVE TO SIT BACK ON THAT ONE SIDE. >> IT'S TIGHT BUT IT'S A GOOD

THING I'M SORRY WITH YOU. >> I DON'T LIKE PUT OUT ANY INFORMATION I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE RED LINES. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REAL TIGHT FAR RIGHT OUTSIDE IT IS.

MS. GALLAGHER, IF YOU'LL HOLD UP A MOMENT, WE'LL GET YOU IN JUST A

MOMENT. >> OH, OK. I WAS OK TIME BUT WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE UPPER CORNER RIGHT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT AT TWELVE POINT FIVE AND THEN IT WOULD BE MAKE BREAK EVERY QUARTER OF THAT WHERE IT'S KIND OF ANGLE TO A THE PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS TO A LITTLE PROPERTY DOWN THERE BUT IT'S CLOSED DOWN

RIGHT NOW AND KIND OF MAKE IT A SURFACE. >> THEY'VE GOT THREE PUPILS TO DO THAT. BUT IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTION MR. INDEPENDENT MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY UP MR. ENDICOTT THE PLAN THAT I'M LOOKING AT SEEMS TO SHOW THAT THE HOUSE IS IT'S CURRENTLY SITUATED THAT RIGHT CORNER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TWENTY FIVE FEET PROMPTED BY THAT THE ROADWAY RIGHT OF WAY AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONLY A TEN FOOT

BUILDING SET BACK. >> HOW COME YOU HAVEN'T SLID THE HOUSE FURTHER TOWARDS THE

STREET? >> WELL, I MEAN MY ARCHITECT AND MY BUILDER SAID HE SLID IN

AND MORE TOWARDS DRUGS. >> WHY NOT? ARE THEY HERE ON WHICH TO WORK

? >> I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE OVER THE THERE WAS TWELVE AND A HALF FEET SET PARTICULAR AREAS FOR THE THIS YOU SEE THIS POINT IN 25 FEET.

SO IF SLAB OF ALL 9 FOOTAGE ON THE BASELINE ALL YOU HAD TO SLIDE AS IT MOVES FORWARD SO SO WHICH WOULD BE MORE SO WHEN I WAS READING THE PAPER DEVIL SAID TO ME LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WOULD TELL ME ON A CONFERENCE CALL MAY ARE IS FROM THAT SEVEN POINT FIVE I WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT WE ONLY NEED A SEVEN TO HAVE PARENTS I THINK THAT THAT ONE SHEET SECTION IT WAS THE TWELVE POINT FIVE PER CENT LEVELS IT FIRSTLY ONLINE IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S TWELVE POINT BLANK IN THE STORE HERE SO THAT FROM WHAT MAYBE EUROPE TWENTY

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FIVE HERE SIMPLY YOU STILL HAVE ROOM TO SLIDE FALLING SO DO MISS THEY NEED TO HAVE FEAR THAT MR. CHAIRMAN MAO SHARE MY SCREEN SO SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> YES, SIR. IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS DID THIS.

SO MR. ELLIOT, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN IN THE PACKAGE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US AND YOU SEE THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHERE RIGHT FRONT CORNER OF THE HOUSE IS YOU SEE IT IT'S RIGHT ALONG THIS LINE JUST TWENTY FIVE FOOT BSL WHICH IS BUILDING SET BACK LINE.

YEAH. WHY CAN'T THE HOUSE BE MOVED FURTHER TOWARDS THE STREET? I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. THIS FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THESE PLANS WHEN I WAS EVEN IS TOTALLY I'M GOING TO SHOW HIM I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO A VARIANCE HERE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK YOU SEE THE 50 FOOT BUILDING SET BACK LINE FOR THE BASELINE WHICH IS THE LINE THAT YOU OUGHTA ADHERE TO IS RIGHT HERE AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU CAN REASONABLY UTILIZE YOUR PROPER FOR RESIDENTS CONSIDERING THAT BASELINE SET BACK WITHOUT A VARIANCE AND SO I'M PREDISPOSED TO GRANT A VARIANCE.

THE ONLY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH VARIANCE AND WHEN WE'RE GRANTING VARIANCES WE'RE REQUIRED TO TRY AND LOOK AT THE ISSUE THAT IT'S THE MINIMUM AMOUNT NECESSARY AND I'M UP FOR THAT AND IF YOU CAN SLIDE THE HOUSE FURTHER TOWARDS THE STREET AND THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF THE VARIANCE THAT'S NECESSARY THE STREET YOU'RE ATTACKING TO THE LEFT OR IT'S AN UP OR TOWARDS LOT ONE OKATIE YEAH I I MEAN I'M ALL FOR THAT MY PLANS THAT SHOW THAT IT WAS ONLY TWELVE AND AT THE THAT WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR THE VARIANCE TO KEEP IT RIGHT THERE HEALTH FOR THE PARK BUT I'LL BE THROUGH IS MR. KEITH IS NO LONGER WITH US ON THIS CALL IS HE DID PLANTS FOR YOU RIGHT BESIDE THE PLANT TO TURN IT INTO.

>> IS HE NO LONGER ON THE CALL. NO HE'S LEFT HE'S LEFT TOMPKINS WHERE YOU TO KEEP HIS CHIN?

>> I'M I SAY AGAIN ERIC HE'S HE'S MEETING ALREADY. OK.

>> DAD , I DON'T KNOW WHY NOBODY MENTIONED THIS TAX TO ME .

>> I MEAN I LIKE I SAID THE PLAN THE LATEST PLANS AND AFTER THAT WE HAVE TO BEGIN THIS IS WHAT TURNED THE FIRST SIMPLY TWO HUNDRED P FURTHER IN OR SO BE ORDERED BUT BUILD A MOCK

BUILDER. >> THESE ARE BACK ON THE PHONE IF YOU KNEW THAT THIS THING WAS COMING UP BECAUSE I TOLD YOU TO TELL THE PERSON WHO SAID TO PAINT TO BE A TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO HIM BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I THINK PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA CALLS WHAT MR.

WILLIAMS IS SAYING IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. >> HE KNOWS THE STAFF ARE INCLINED TO GRANT RELIEF POWER AND RELIEF AS STATED BY MR. WAYNE THAT CERTAINLY ALIGNS WITH STOUT RECOMMENDATION. IN ADDITION TO REQUIRING AC ARGUMENT THROUGH BOTH AS TO WHATEVER RELIEF IS GRANTED HERE, WE'RE NOT SURE A VETERAN MIGHT NOT CREATE THAT CONSTRUCT WITH THE RELIEF TOWARD THE THOUGHT AND THEN I'LL BE INCUMBENT ON HIM TO WORK WITH MR. KEEN FOR AND THE FRAIL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO GET THE RELIEF NECESSARY TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION GUIDELINES THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CERTAINLY MUCH EASIER THAN GETTING RELIEF THROUGH OFF TO OCR AND IF THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ABOUT BUILDING THAT PLACE TO THE CRITICAL LOTS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

SO YOU SAY GO BACK TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN CLOUDS.

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>> I WOULD RECOMMEND I WOULD TELL ON THE NIGHT OUR GRANT IS RELIEVED TONIGHT AND IF HE CAN'T GET THE RELIEF THEN HE COULD COME BACK FOR YOU ALL LATER SAYING I CAN GET THE RELIEF WELL IF I NEED I NEED SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHT ON THE REAR BUT I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS IF YOU ARE GRANT OR LEAVE FOR FRONT AND HE IS ABLE TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE REAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THEY'RE GIRLS THEY LOVE THE COUNTY GAVE RELIEF ON THE FRONT AND WE'LL BE EARLY. THE PROBLEM WITH THEM MAKES MAKES AND WE'RE IMPORTANT WORK

ON STAFF STANDPOINT TO SUPPORT THAT ANYWAY. >> BUT WHAT WHAT FOR? WHAT'S THE PREP SETBACK? THEY'RE ADJACENT A LOT ONE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS THAT MR. WILLIAMS AT THIS POINT WOULD UNTIL YOU ARE SET BACK AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S CORRECT

BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO STEP ACTION ON THAT PLAN. >> THERE IS A 10 FOOT ONE I CAN AT TWENTY FIVE THAT'S AT MAXIMUM WITH THE. THE PLAN IS VERY CONFUSING TO

START OFF WITH. YES. >> I AGREE THAT IT'S KEVIN I'VE

GOT A QUESTION READY TO RUN IF I MAY. >> OH YEAH.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT YOU SEE LOT THREE THERE THAT CORNERS ON THAT TEN FOOT

SETBACK GOD IS AT THE HOUSE AND LORD THREE. >> YEAH YEAH YEAH THAT APPEARS

TO BE CORRECT. >> AND WHY WOULDN'T HE BE ALLOWED TO MOVE HIS UP TO THAT SAME LINE? OBVIOUSLY IN FRIPP ISLANDS ALREADY APPROVED THIS WANTS YEAH I WAS PROBABLY THINKING ABOUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE WANT RELIEF FOR YOU TO BE WHAT DID THAT 10 FOOT ON AN EPIC ANY LEVEL THAT HE CAN USE THAT TO GO BACK THROUGH WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT THE COUNTY WOULDN'T GIVE ME RELIEF ON THE RIVER BUT

THEY DID GIVE A LEAD FROM THE FRONT. >> SO I NEED YOUR LEAD MEANWHILE IN THE FRONT AND THEN I'LL PROBABLY GRAB THAT NOW THAT YOU ARE CRACKING THAT NOW MISS DALE, YOU MAY NEED A RELOCATE THAT RAIN GARDEN THAT'S SHOWN UP THERE PUT IT

SOMEPLACE ELSE AND WE COULD DO THAT. >> DRIVEWAYS COMING OUT TO THE

TENTH SAY SO DO YOU PROBABLY WOULD MOVE IN THERE? >> NO BOULEVARD I DON'T HAVE TROUT BY I APOLOGIZE THAT I'VE BEEN SURPRISED WITH THE BASKET PAPERS.

>> MORGAN SAID IT'S HARD TO GET A HOLD OF ANYBODY AND I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED THAT I DID GET PAPERS SHOWING ME THAT I DON'T I'M OUT RIGHT NOW BUT I WAS ALWAYS TAKEN FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN. WE WAS REAL REAL CLOSE TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE FROM THE

GALAXIES. >> THERE ARE SOME REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M SORRY. OH CAN I GET YOU A BEER? I HAVE SPOKEN UP.

YEAH WE'RE GONNA ME WORK. WE THINK THAT DURING THE HARDSHIP YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN YOU HAVEN'T CAME ANY TOURNAMENTS OR LIKE PRIOR TO THAT COMING UP TO THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND YET AGAIN YOU REQUIRE THAT YOU SEE ARE ALL PRETTY WELL ALL THE ENCOURAGEMENT INTO THE PROTOCOL LINES IF I MAY. YES FOR THE TIME IT IS OPEN IT WAS YOU WHAT COULD YOU STAY TONIGHT RIGHT BEFORE WE GET THERE MR. GREENWAY, WHAT WHAT ENCROACHMENT INTO THE CRITICAL ORDER YOU REFERRED TO BASELINE I'M SORRY.

>> AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS. BUT THE PLANS DON'T SHOW ANY APPROACH PAST THE BASELINE USING HIS HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD TO EACH SIDE THE BASE SNIPER AS A TWENTY FEET FOR OCR AND BUT I'M NOT SURE OCR HAS ANY SORT OF SETBACK FROM THEIR

BASELINE. >> THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOU.

YES THEY DO. YES, THEY HAVE TWENTY FEET 20 FEET.

>> BUT HE IS STILL UP. >> YEAH I'M SORRY I DON'T THINK ABOUT THE CRITICAL ON YOUR CORRECT ABOUT. YEAH YEAH HE'S GOT RANGE ON THE BASELINE.

>> YEAH WELL IF HE MOVES IF HE MOVES THAT HEALTH FIFTEEN FEET FURTHER TOWARDS LAW ONE THAT

HE'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT SETBACK. >> YEAH AND THAT CAN BE FOUND YOU DON'T SEE MOVE. ALL RIGHT IF HE CAN MOVE IT'S NOT FOR ANY MORE QUESTIONS THE

[9. Public Comment (Comments Limited to Three (3) Minutes)]

ONLY QUESTION IS I MAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD SURE YOU STATE TO NAME MIKE GALLAGHER.

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>> I'M REGISTERED AT NUMBER THREE AND I HAD WE HAD A FACE WITH THE SAME ISSUES I'M NOT SURE WE MADE ANY APPEARANCE AT THE BOARD HERE BUT WE FACE THE SAME ISSUES AND WE I THINK WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH 20 FOOT SETBACK IF WE'RE NOT IT'S A MINOR INFRINGEMENT A

STAIRCASE. >> BUT I THINK WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND WE WE'RE TOLD THAT WE WOULD NOT LIKELY GET A VARIANCE FROM THAT. SO WE DECIDED TO MAKE A SMALLER HOUSE AND I HAD THE SAME QUESTION WHY NOT MOVE THE HOUSE TOWARDS ST..

>> THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE THE A VARIANCE WITH THE OCR AND THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION AND I THINK THE BOARD MAY BE RAISING THE SAME QUESTION THEN RESOLVING IT SHOWS A SIGN WHEN

MR. GALLAGHER, IF I MAY. >> WHEN DID YOU BUILD YOUR RESIDENCE TWO THOUSAND NINE

THAN HILLARY WAS THE 50 FOOT SET BACK IN PLACE AT THAT TIME? >> YES, THE GALLERIES.

YES, I BELIEVE ASSUMPTION. YES. 2000.

>> HILLARY, DO YOU RECALL WHETHER OR NOT THE GALLAGHER'S TEAM FORESAW A VARIANCE?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK. I DIDN'T CHECK THERE. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T REMEMBER. >> ELLEN PATTERSON WAS OUR BUILDER.

AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> WELL, I THINK CAME. YES, YOU MADE IT.

YES, YOU DID. HE DID. >> SO YOU'RE BASICALLY THE SAME SORT OF SITUATION THAT MR. ELLIOTT IS. EXACTLY.

>> BUT HEY, SAME ISSUE. IS THERE ANY MORE I YOU GOT DALLAS AREA YOU FINISH?

>> YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> I CAME I'VE GOT A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. MR. MRS. GALLAGHER, I SEE AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

YOU'RE ALREADY AT THE 10 FOOT BASELINE. SO YOU WERE ALLOWED TO MOVE THAT FAR FORWARD. CORRECT. WE'RE 20 FOOT FROM THE THE LINE

IS I DON'T KNOW THE FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY. >> YES.

OK. YES. SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> THEY GRANTED YOU APPROVAL TO MOVE UP TO THAT BASELINE. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT AT THE

TIME SLOT. >> I ASSUME SO. OK.

THANK YOU. JOHN. JOHN, IF I MAY.

I SUSPECT THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE MINIMUM. HE PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED ANY SPECIAL APPROVALS TO BE THAT WOULD BE A 10 FOOT BUT I DON'T DOUBT THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

BUT I SUSPECT THAT'S THE CASE. >> WELL THEN THESE FOLKS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY, CORRECT? NOW WHAT IS KNOWN IS THAT THE HOUSE CUT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. OK, AND WE'LL TEST TESTED. SO WHEN YOU SAID THE BASELINE

USE ACTUALLY REFERRING TO THE BUILDING. >> RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD THAT SOME OF IT. THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE THERE. YES.

BUT THE SO THERE IS NORMAL COURSE SINCE THE. >> WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY DO ANYONE WANT TO FOR SOMEONE TO PUT A COMMOTION ON THE BILLBOARD? MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WANNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE?

IS THERE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? >> ADAM, I SENT YOU TWO LETTERS

HATE MAIL AND THE MATTER. >> OH YEAH. >> SO I THINK WE HAVE THAT THIS

INDIRECTLY. >> YEAH. SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC IN AT THE START. AND CAN WE GET SOMEONE TO PUT A MOTION ON FLOOR?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY I WOULD MOVE THAT BASED ON THE APPLICATION LEFT BEFORE SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY THAT WE FIND THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS THE REVIEW STANDARDS FOR INSTANCE OF A VARIANCE IS SET FORTH AND CDC SECTION SEVEN POINT TWO POINT ONE FORTY POINT B AND THAT WE GRANT THE VARIANCE ON THE CONDITION THAT THE LOCATION

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OF THE HOUSE GOING ON THE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE THE MOVE IS FAR BOARDS BLOCK 1 AS NECESSARY TO EITHER REACH THE 10 FOOT BUILDING SET BACK FINE OR TO MOVE THE STRUCTURE ENTIRELY BACK BEHIND THE 20 FOOT STEP BACK FROM BASELINE AND ALSO ON THE CONDITION THAT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE CONSTRUCT NOT EXCEED ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND

EIGHTY SQUARE FEET. >> MR. WILLIAMS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AND IT GETS WILLING TO SET THEM IN MOTION BACK AND MOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

YEAH I TAKE IT THAT WAY IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE REASON WHY I HAD THE ALTERNATE CONDITIONS IS BECAUSE HE MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE THE HOUSE YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE 12 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE AND STILL STAY WITH THE OUTSIDE OF THE BASE THE PLACE ON SETBACK BUT WHICHEVER HOWEVER FAR HE'S GOT TO MOVE IT TO GET OUTSIDE THE SET BACK ON THE BASELINE PROVIDED THAT IT DIDN'T GO BEYOND THE 10 BUILD EXCEPT THAT ONE THAT'S WE'RE ASKING THEM TO. YES SIR. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I TOTALLY

AGREE WITH YOU. >> SO WE'VE THAT MOTION BEING MADE SOMEONE DID SECOND THAT MOTION. YES. JUST MISSILES SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE LET'S DO CONDITIONS. GIVE ME A QUICK SECOND FILE ARE

RAISING A RIGHT HAND REIMPOSE. >> SOME PARENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR MR. TWO CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYBODY.

AFTER ALL BUSINESS STOP OR I'LL LET WHAT WE DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT OUT.

[10A. Review of Rules and Procedures]

>> JUST WHAT DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT? >> OH, THERE ARE RULES AND PROCEDURES BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE READY TO REVIEW BILLS AT THE MOMENT YOU CAN JUST DECIDE YOU CAN GET THERE AND JUST GET THIS OVER AND THAT THAT'S ALWAYS A BAD MILES IN MY COURT RIGHT NOW I'M IN THE PROCESS GOING THROUGH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S A LITTLE LONGER THAN IT SHOULD BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE CLIENT GETS.

>> SO I GUESS WE JUST MOVE THERE AND TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING'S SITUATED.

YOU CANNOT JUST SAY PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING ATTENDED GETS THE YOU CAN GET WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IS WITH CHAIRMAN. OK, WELL WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT OPEN INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON THE NEXT WE'RE JUST LIKE NO IT'S ALL BASED ON TO BRING IT FORWARD AND THAT'S ME, OK?

I WENT SOLO WITH THEM BEING SENDING IN NEW BUSINESS. >> GET SOME.

CAN I HAVE SOMEONE TO MAKE THE MOST GENERAL TERM I WAIT SECOND MISMANAGED LAWSUIT AGAINST SYLVESTER TO GET A SECOND GET ALL THE FAVORABLE GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

BUT I'M NOT COMING OUT OK

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