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CALL THIS MEETING OF THE AD HOC LEPTIN AND
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GROWTH COMMITTEE ORDER.UH, TODAY IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 14TH, AND IT'S 4:00 PM.
AND LET'S START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES
[Approval of Agenda]
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS, UM, CALL FOR THE VOTE.ROBYN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY? NO, MA'AM OKAY.
WELL THEN WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT TO ITEM D, WHICH
[Approval of the December 17, 2020 Committee Minutes]
IS THE APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 17TH COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS WITH THE DECEMBER? 17TH MINUTES? PERFECT.
CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THE MINUTES.
[Interim Report Overview]
WE ARE DOWN TO ITEM E, WHICH IS THE INTERIM REPORT OVERVIEW AND ROBIN, I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN AND SHOW YOU GUYS KIND OF WHAT I HAVE, UM, FOR THE INTERIM REPORT.THE PLAN IS TO BRING THIS REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD ON THE 19TH TO LET THEM KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN OUR WORK.
UM, WELL, WE CAN, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
YOU SEE IT? YEAH, THERE WE GO.
CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? PERFECT.
SO KIND OF HOW I FORMATTED THIS WAS I GRABBED THOSE SCOPE OBJECTIVES, UM, THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND THEN PUT THESE A STATUS UPDATE IN REGARD TO THOSE UNDERNEATH AND STARTING WITH THE FIRST ONE IS BRIDGING THE NEED FOR NEW SCHOOLS VERSUS ADDING ONTO EXISTING SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON TO ADDRESS CAPACITY NEEDS.
AND FOR THE STATUS, I HAVE IT SITTING AS THAT ALL BLUFFTON SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN INSPECTED BY THE COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEN I'LL GO OVER KIND OF JUST THE NOTES THAT I HAVE AND, UH, COLONEL GEIER, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANY NOTES TO THIS, I CERTAINLY WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE AND CAROL YOU AS WELL.
I JUST ADDED THE ONES THAT I HAD, UM, THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME, UM, AND THAT I KNEW WERE ONES THAT WE ALL KIND OF DISCUSSED, DISCUSSED.
UM, SOME STARTING WITH MC RILEY AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
UM, I HAVE THE 45 DAY NUMBERS BASED ON CAROL.
WHAT YOU HAVE RECENTLY GIVEN US AT 711 STUDENTS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE CURRENT CAPACITY PERCENTAGE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEW TENURE UPDATE BOOKS.
SO I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HERE AND I CERTAINLY CAN INPUT IT IF YOU HAVE, THAT CAN SEND THAT TO YOU.
UM, AND WHAT I HAVE HERE BASICALLY IS JUST THAT THERE IS SPACE FOR FOUR POSSIBLE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS AT MC RILEY BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR, 20 2110 YEAR PLAN BOOK, UM, COLONEL GUY, OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD FOR MC RILEY? NOTHING AT ALL.
CAROL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR MC RILEY? I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, MOVING DOWN, WE HAVE BLUFFED AN ELEMENTARY 45 DAY NUMBERS ARE 753 STUDENTS.
AND I HAVE HERE A NOTATION THAT THE MOBILE UNITS THAT ARE THERE ARE USED FOR THE SOUTHERN ESL, A WELCOME CENTER AND FOR STORAGE, UM, AND THAT THEY RECENTLY EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF SPACE DUE TO THE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES THAT WERE DONE AT THAT SITE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I SHOULD INCLUDE HERE THAT'S PERTINENT TO, UM, THEIR EXISTING CAPACITY.
DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD ADD THE 36% ESL STUDENTS AT THAT SCHOOL? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? AND THEY HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF SPECIAL ED PROGRAMS THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY ARE AFFORDED THE CLUSTER PROGRAM SYMPTOM.
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OKAY.BUT THAT'S A 36% ESL STUDENTS, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS AS WELL.
MOVING DOWN, I HAVE OT ELEMENTARY, 45 DAY NUMBER WAS 563 STUDENTS.
AND THE ONLY NOTE THAT I HAD ON THIS ONE WAS THAT PRESENTLY, THAT FIELD NEARBY IS USED AT THE PLAYER PLAY AREA.
UM, BUT IT IS UNCOVERED, I BELIEVE.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OTHER NOTES I SHOULD MAKE IN REGARDS TO THIS ONE.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NOTES ON THAT ONE.
FIRST ONE IS THAT WE COULD GO UP NEXT OR BUILDINGS NEARBY ONE EARLY CHILDHOOD LACKING.
YEAH, I HAVE, I THINK I DID HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDITION FOR THAT ASHLEY COST OF ABOUT 20.2 MILLION.
I HAVE PRESENTLY THAT THEY ARE, UM, YEAH.
I HAVE A NOTE HERE ON ECC THROUGH ONE AND A TWO THROUGH SIX OR SOMETHING.
ANYTHING ELSE, CAROL? I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, UNLESS YOU WANT TO SAY 12 ACRES AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, BAKERS THAT WE HAVE THE 12 ACRES.
ACTUALLY, THERE WAS ONE THING THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE THERE'S, TWO NEW DEVELOPMENTS BEING BUILT AND ONE IS ANOTHER ONE IS BEING PLANNED.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL STAGES AT THIS POINT, RIGHT THERE ON CHERRY POINT ROAD.
ACC LACKING 12, 12 ACRES AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
NOTHING ELSE THERE I'LL MOVE TO RED.
CEDAR RED CEDARS PRESENT 45 DAY NUMBERS WERE 572 STUDENTS.
UM, I HAVE THAT KNOWN MOBILES ARE ALLOWED PER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HERE.
UM, AND THAT THIS IS A HIGH CHOICE, UH, SCHOOL.
I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO DUE TO COVID EXPERIENCE, PROBABLY THE MOST LOSS OF STUDENTS.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER.
AND I, I'M NOT PUTTING THAT NOTE IN HERE JUST BECAUSE, UM, ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS ONE TO ADD FOUR CLASSROOMS? I HAVE FOUR CLASSROOMS WITH LUKE THERE'S ROOM TO ADD FOUR CLASSROOMS. OKAY.
ARE YOU SURE? THAT'S RED CEDAR, NOT MC RILEY.
I AM NOT AWARE OF THE ABILITY TO ADD CLASSROOMS AT RED CEDAR.
THERE'S NO PLANNING THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE FOR THAT.
YOU MAY HAVE THAT WITH MC RILEY.
I KNOW WE HAD THAT AT MC RALLY, FOR SURE.
I DIDN'T HAVE THAT FOR RED CEDAR.
SO IF GUYS THINK THAT THAT'S NEVER BEEN EVALUATED.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR RED FEEDER? OKAY.
FORTY-FIVE DAY NUMBERS, 881 STUDENTS.
UM, I HAVE THAT THERE ARE MOBILES ALREADY ON SITE AND DISCUSS THE DESIRE TO PHASE OUT THE MOBILES AT THIS SITE.
UM, I KNOW THOSE ARE NEWER, CORRECT? ROBERT NEW-ISH.
AND WE, I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO PHASE THEM OUT.
WELL, AND I WOULD PUT THERE'S MOBILES AND A MODULAR BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH OF THEIR, SO THAT IT WOULD, WOULD IT BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE DESIRE IS TO PHASE OUT THE MOBILES AND THE MODULAR BUILDING EVENTUALLY? OR DO YOU HAVE A DOUBT? ONE IS
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SOME TIME OUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OVER CAPACITY AND GROWING.I HAVE A DESIRE TO GET RID OF, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A, A CHANCE BETTER CHANCE TO SAY ON THE NEXT ONE TO GET RID OF THE ONES AT RIVER RIDGE BEFORE PRINCE ADVIL.
UM, AND THEN AN ALSO SECOND POINT IT'S DISCUSSED THAT THERE REALLY IS NO ROOM AT THE SITE TO ADD MORE MOBILES AND EXISTING STRAIN ON THE COMMON AREAS.
IT'S VERY HIGH, UH, UNIT CAFETERIA SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH ALL SCHOOLS, BUT I KNOW IN PARTICULAR WE DISCUSSED THAT HERE, UM, AS BEING A MAJOR CONCERN.
UM, K I HAVE RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY NEXT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR PRICHARD VILLE.
UM, RIVER RIDGE FORTY-FIVE DAY NUMBERS, A 1090 STUDENTS AND THAT THEIR RECENTLY WORTHY THE ADDITION IS, UM, COMPLETED THERE.
ANY OTHER NOTES, AT LEAST ROOM FOR AN ECC ON SITE? WELL, THAT'S ONLY IF WE PURCHASE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
SO IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
I WOULD ADD THE MOBILES AND MODULAR EXACTLY.
AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A DESIRE TO PHASE THOSE OUT AND THOSE CAN BE FACED OUT PROBABLY MOST LIKELY SOONER THAN PRITCHARD DOSE.
AND THEN WE'LL, I THINK THAT OTHER ONE MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER TIME SINCE IT'S NOT OURS SPACE.
UM, AND I THINK THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT ADDING, UM, AN ECC THERE BECAUSE OF THE COMMON AREAS.
IS THAT, OR WOULD THE ECC BUILDING HABITS ON CAFETERIA? YEAH.
W W THE ONLY DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IS ON A SEPARATE, A SEPARATE BUILDING, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY NEARBY.
LET'S REVISIT THAT ANOTHER TIME, PERHAPS.
UM, YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A NOTE ON THAT ONE, UM, KEEP THAT IN THE MEMORY BANK, UM, HD MCCRACKEN FORTY-FIVE DAY NUMBERS 935 FORMATTING HERE.
UM, WE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDING THE CAFETERIA HERE.
THERE IS PRESENTLY AN OUTDOOR SEATING SPACE WHERE STUDENTS CAN EAT, BUT IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE USED DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WITH THAT SPACE BEING MAXED OUT THE CAFETERIA SPACE.
UM, AND I ALSO HAVE THAT MOBILE UNITS ARE REACHING OR ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE AT THIS SITE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS I'M MOBILE REFRESH.
UM, ROBERT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT ONCE IT HAS REACHED THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE, WE REFRESH THOSE, OR WHAT IS THE STATUS OF, UH, WE ACTUALLY JUST SPENT THIS, UH, OVER THE LAST SUMMER, REHABBING THEM.
SO PUTTING IN NEW FLOORS, UM, GETTING THEM READY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL USE, BUT THEY HAVE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WHERE THEY USE OUT OF IT.
SO WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE WE LOOKED AT REPLACING THEM.
IS THAT ACCURATE APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS LEFT.
THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT INTO SPECIAL ED CLUSTER.
THEY DO HAVE, UM, THE, UH, WHAT IS THE TERMINOLOGY CAROL FOR THOSE, THAT TYPE OF SPECIAL ED, UM, AREA THAT THEY HAVE? CAUSE THEY HAD A SPECIAL FACILITIES THERE.
I THINK THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A SENSORY ROOM, RIGHT? YES.
FOR THE, THE MORE SEVERE PROFOUND STUDENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT SAYING THE
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SPECIAL NEED CLUSTER, LIKE YOU DID IS PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO MAKE THE STATEMENT AT BLUFFTON L INSTEAD OF SAYING HIGHER PERCENTAGE TO SAY THE SPECIAL NEED CLUSTER, THAT TERMINOLOGY JUST KIND OF BOTHERED ME A LITTLE BIT.I THINK THAT'S JUST BETTER PHRASE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY IS.
SO THANK YOU FOR GUIDING US THERE.
UM, IS THAT ALL WE HAVE FOR HD MCCRACKEN? OKAY.
LUCKED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, 45 DAY NUMBERS, 824 STUDENTS.
UM, I HAVE ON HERE NEEDS A NEW ROOF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE WHEN THEY WERE BLOWING THROUGH THERE.
BUT I ALSO SEE THAT ROOF REPAIRS IS LISTED ON THE 20, 21 CAPITAL PROJECT LISTS.
SO I DID WANT TO ASK ROBERT ABOUT THAT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED HERE OR NOT.
YES, WE ARE REPAIRING IT, BUT IT IS ON OUR, THE REPAIRS ARE TO GET IT A FEW MORE YEARS OUT OF IT.
IT'S ON OUR WATCH CYCLE FOR REPLACEMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY APPROPRIATE HERE.
WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT CAPACITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAN WE ARE JUST FACILITY NEEDS.
AND I ALSO HAVE A NOTE THAT WE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF A BASEBALL FIELD.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF ANY AVAILABLE AREA THAT'S AROUND THERE AND WHAT WE CAN USE THAT LAND FOR.
UM, BUT I HAVE THAT NOTATION HERE, UM, AND I HAVE THE LOCKER AREA, UM, USAGE BEING A QUESTION THAT THERE WAS, I KNOW SOME PERHAPS UNUSED LOCKER SPACE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY CONVERTED.
AND I KNOW THAT WAS A DISCUSSION.
WELL, WHAT WE DID WAS WHEN WE BUILT THAT SCHOOL, WE TOOK FOUR CLASSROOMS OFFLINE AND CREATED LOCKER SPACES BECAUSE THAT SCHOOLS ARE RUN AND DESIGNED WITHOUT WALKERS.
UM, SO IF THEY ARE NOT USING THE LOCKERS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GAIN FOUR CLASSROOMS BACK.
SO FOR LAST ROOMS PREVIOUSLY CONVERTED TO LOCKER COULD BE RECONVERTED ESSENTIALLY.
I'D TAKE OUT THE STORAGE IS JUST LOCKER AREAS, LOCKER AREAS.
AND DICK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NOTHING ELSE? OKAY.
UH, MOVING DOWN, I'VE GOT BLUFFTON HIGHS NUMBERS, UH, 1,290 STUDENTS.
UM, I'M RE I HAD, I TOOK THIS TOUR BY MYSELF CAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME ISSUES THERE, UM, WITH SCHEDULING AND I HAVE EXPANSION OF CATE OFFERINGS WERE DISCUSSED AND USING AVAILABLE SPACE OR LAND TO DO SO.
I DO RECALL THAT THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, REFERENDUM LIST ORIGINALLY.
AND THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS CUT.
UM, SO ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU GUYS? NO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO SAY IT HAD ALREADY BEEN ADDED ON TO AT ONE TIME BY DOING THE THIRD FLOOR.
I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS THAT AT THIS POINT, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO IMPROVE.
AND MAY RIVER, I HAVE THEIR 45 DAY NUMBERS AS 1,479 STUDENTS.
UM, THEY HAD ADDITIONS IN THE LAST REFERENDUM AND WE DISCUSSED, UH, CAFETERIA IN THE RFP ROTC EXPANSION.
I BELIEVE THE ROTC IS PRESENTLY IN MOBILE UNITS.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR THEY WANTED TO GET OUR CREATION HERE AND EXPANSION HERE.
WHAT ABOUT THE PRIVATE ROAD ACCESS FROM PALMETTO BLUFF? THAT'S UNDER NEGOTIATION.
IS THAT RIGHT, ROBERT? WELL, UM, NO, I MEAN, WE HAVE A PRIVATE ROAD WE HAVE, OR WE HAVE FINISHED THOSE NEGOTIATIONS.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL, WE'VE GOTTEN PERMISSION TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS AS NEEDED.
THE ONLY ISSUE IS AS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THE TWO DRIVES THAT WE CURRENTLY
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HAVE ON PALMETTO BLOCK.SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE RIGHT THERE WITH THAT, BUT THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT.
ISN'T PRIVATE ROAD, BUT I THINK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, AND PALMETTO BLUFF DOES CONTROL THAT ROUTE SO CONTROLLED BY PALMETTO BLUFF OR WHAT IS THE ENTITY PALMETTO BLUFF OWNERS ASSOCIATION OR, UH, THEY ACTUALLY, HAVEN'T DIFFERENT.
I THINK IT'S CRESCENT INNER AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME, BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ACCESS FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, BUT, UM, THOSE OF KIND THAT MAY BE WHAT REFERRING TO, UH, COLONEL GEIER IS THAT WE HAD BEEN TALKING WITH THE TALENT AND OTHERS ABOUT GAINING ACCESS FROM THE REAR, UM, FROM, UH, WHAT ROAD IS THAT? CAROL, UH, OLD CLOWN MOUNT MINNOW.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS THERE.
IF WE DECIDE TO BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL, THEN IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ESSENTIAL BUT HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY, THEY GAVE, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING RIGHT THERE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT ONE? UH BLAKE'S YEAH.
I DON'T THINK THEY DID EITHER, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
THEY KIND OF WENT AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF DOING ANYTHING ABOUT 10 MINUTE, BUT LAST I HEARD.
SO MY, MY MAIN NOTES, UM, THAT I HAVE HERE AND FROM DOING THE, ALL THE TOURS, IS THAT THE OPTION TO BUILD UP VERTICAL AT ANY OF THE BLUFFTON SITES, UM, OR EVEN IF WE BUILT OUT AT ANY OF THE WEALTH SITES COULD CAUSE A FEW ISSUES.
NUMBER ONE, BEING THE STRAIN ON THE EXISTING COMMON AREAS.
I E THE CAFETERIAS THAT ARE ALREADY RUNNING SUPER TIGHT AND MULTIPLE STEPS LIKE SCHEDULING, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE EVERYBODY IN THERE.
AND I DON'T HAVE THE TIME HERE DICK, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO TELL THE BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT KIDS COMING IN FOR LUNCH HOUR, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS SOME OF THEM BEGINNING, IT, SOME OF THEM WERE RUNNING FOUR OR FIVE LOTS, AND IT'S STARTING VERY EARLY MORNING GOING UP UNTIL ONE SOMETHING IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY A THING TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND THE SECOND THING BEING THE POSSIBILITY OR LIKELY CERTAINTY OF HAVING TO DISPLACE CURRENT, UH, STUDENTS DURING ANY CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I THINK THAT KIND OF NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER, UM, THE MOST URGENT NEED BEGINS IN THE ELEMENTARY GRADES MOVES UP.
AND THEN I ALSO PUT HERE THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER PROJECTIONS PRE COVID, AND I KNOW CAROL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UM, ON OUR NEXT AGENDA TOPICS, I'LL KIND OF JUST LIKE THAT.
UM, YOU'LL END UP ADJUSTING ONE OF THOSE STATEMENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ANALYSIS WE WERE DOING CERTAINLY SHOWED THAT NEEDED ELEMENTARY AND THEN, UH, MIDLAND HIGH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE DIFFERENT MAY COME ACROSS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE OUR DISCUSSION WILL END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHICH PROJECTION DO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK OUT FOR LONGTERM.
SO THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL, THAT WAS WHAT OUR ANALYSIS.
AND I WOULD SAY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PREVIOUS YEARS OF PROJECTIONS THAT'S, THAT'S HELD TRUE.
UM, SO THEN MOVING DOWN TO ANOTHER, UH, SCOPE OBJECTIVE, WHICH WAS TO RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL COVID-19 IMPACTS TO BLUFFTON HOUSING MARKET.
UM, I HAVE THE STATUS OF THAT IS THE SURVEY TO THE BLUFFTON AREA.
REALTORS IS PENDING BECAUSE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MUST APPROVE THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT PRIOR TO ITS DISTRIBUTION.
AND THEY'RE MEETING AGAIN IN LATE JANUARY.
SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY RESULTS OF THAT.
UM, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION ABOUT MARKET TRENDS THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT, UM, TO GIVE US JUST A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THINGS, BUT THAT SURVEY IS PENDING.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING ALIGNMENT WITH SCOPE OBJECTIVE WAS TO RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL IMPACT AND DEVELOPMENT FEES.
AND BLUFFTON, I KNOW WE'RE AWAITING FURTHER INFORMATION FROM FINANCE ON THAT.
AND THEN THE ACTION ITEM THAT I HAVE COMING FORWARD FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION IS THE MOTION FROM OUR LAST MEETING, UM, FOR THE APPROVAL OR FOR DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO CONDUCT THE SURVEY OF PARENTS.
AND THEN I HAVE A NOTE HERE THAT IFC MAY HAVE SOME DATA POINTS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM THAT THEY
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COULD CONTRIBUTE.SO, UM, MAYBE SOME DISCUSSION THAT'S HAD ON THIS ITEM FROM ISP, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS INTERIM REPORT.
I HAVE IT IN DRAFT RIGHT NOW, BUT NOW THAT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF ADDED STEP TO IT, UM, CAROL, I WILL ADD IN THOSE PERCENTAGES NEXT TO THE CURRENT CAPACITY, IF YOU DIDN'T GET THOSE TO ME.
AND THEN, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD IT ANYWHERE, AND I KEEP WITH ME.
SO LET ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP SHARING ROBIN.
CAN YOU GET THE SCREEN BACK FROM ME? THERE WE GO.
[Discussion on Enrollment Projections]
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS.UM, SO MS. CRUTCHFIELD, I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU, AND THERE IS A SLIDESHOW PRESENTATION AS WELL IN BOARD DOCS FOR THIS.
ROBERT, ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN AND I'LL JUST COME IN OVER.
AND THEN IT TAKES AWHILE AND, UH, WE'LL JUST PROGRESS ALONG.
SO YEAH, LET'S START WITH THAT SECOND PAGE, REALLY THAT ONE.
AND I THOUGHT I WOULD START BY SHOWING YOU ALL ENROLLMENT DATA AT THE 45TH DAY THAT WE REVIEWED AT THE LAST BLUFFTON AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, AGAIN, A REMINDER, THE DISTRICT LAB, WHY THE LOSS OF 1,173 STUDENTS, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, A DROP IN 5.2%, BUT WE DID HAVE A FEW SCHOOLS THAT GREW ST.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH WAS ONE BATTERY CREEK, UM, MCCRACKEN MIDDLE SCHOOL, BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL, AND MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL ALL GREW THIS YEAR.
SO, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS NOT UNUSUAL FROM WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE SEEING.
UM, AS WELL AS NATIONWIDE, I'VE TALKED TO PLANNERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND EVERYONE IS SEEING PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
UM, LARGER DROPS IN ENROLLMENT AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVELS, UM, AND KINDERGARTEN, AND PRE-K THAT KIND OF THING IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COMPULSORY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THEIR HIGHEST PERCENTAGES ARE BEING AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL.
UM, SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION IN THE PLANNING WORLD ON, OKAY, WE RAN PROJECTIONS NOW, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS? AND I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE OUR QUESTION, UM, GOING FORWARD ROBIN, IF YOU'LL HIT THE NEXT SLIDE AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME, BUT JUST KIND OF A REMINDER OF HOW OUR PROJECTION MODEL FUNCTIONS.
SO WHETHER IT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT BIRTH DATA FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHICH HAS BEEN DECLINING THIS ENTIRE TIME.
AND THEN IT CALCULATES A COHORT SURVIVAL RATE FROM THE BIRTH DATA FOR WHO SHOWS UP AT PRE-K, WHO SHOWS UP TO KINDERGARTEN AND THEN FIRST RATE GRAY.
AND IT DOES THAT REALLY FOR EACH SCHOOL AND AT A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
SO IT CALCULATES KIND OF TWO THINGS.
IT ALSO USES FIVE YEARS WORTH OF GEO-CODED STUDENT DATA, BY THAT AGAIN, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING UNIT LEVEL, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVES IT UP TO A, A SCHOOL LEVEL.
AND IT CALCULATES THOSE COHORTS SURVIVAL RATES, WHICH IS HOW MANY KIDS, UM, SHOW UP AT SECOND GRADE THAT WERE IN FIRST GRADE LAST YEAR.
AND IF IT'S A NUMBER GREATER THAN ONE, THEN YOU'VE GOT GROWTH.
IF IT'S A NUMBER LESS THAN ONE, BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT A DECLINE.
AND THEN THOSE RESULTS ARE AGAIN FOR RESIDENT STUDENTS WHO WE THINK IS LIVING IN THAT AREA, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IT USES A WEIGHTED AVERAGE CALCULATION.
SO THE MOST RECENT COHORT SURVIVAL TREND WILL HAVE MORE WEIGHT IN DETERMINING FUTURE POPULATION.
SO ALL THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE DONE AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.
AND THEN COMBINED UP TO THE SCHOOL LEVEL PROGRAM ALSO LOOKS AT ALL, ALL THE TRANSFERS IN AND OUT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY'RE IN AND OUT FOR JUST, IT TREATS THEM ALL THE SAME, YOUR
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ZONE FOR THIS AREA.AND OF COURSE YOU SEE THAT BREAKDOWN, UM, IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BOOK EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN WE SHOW THAT, UM, ADJUSTMENT IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN FOR THOSE TRANSFERS THAT WE KIND OF CALL THE CHOICE OF BENT, UM, PROJECTION.
SO LET'S, UH, NEXT SLIDE WE'LL SHOW YOU THE DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECTIONS, FIVE-YEAR, UM, HISTORICAL AND THEN PROJECTED.
SO THE RED LINE IS THE COMPACITY.
UH, THE BLUE LINE IS THE PROJECTION, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DRAMATIC DROP THIS YEAR FROM 19 TO 20.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT PROJECTION GOING FORWARD IS A DECLINE THAT, UH, UM, DOTTED LINE IS SORT OF THE NEEDED CAPACITY.
WE WOULD TALK ABOUT HAVING AVAILABLE SPACE TO DO CHOICE PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHAT WE THINK THAT THE CAPACITY LEVEL THAT WE NEED.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE INCLUDED JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT IDEA, THE NEXT SLIDE.
CAN I JUMP IN KARA? I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, THE DROP BETWEEN 2019 TO 2020, WE HAVE NOT BEEN AT LEVELS THIS LOW SINCE 2014.
SO WE LOST FIVE YEARS OF GROWTH IN ONE YEAR.
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED DURING COVID.
SO JUST TO ME, THAT PUTS IT IN PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE BIT.
WHEN YOU JUST SAY FOR THE MOST PART, OUR CHANGE THIS YEAR WAS WHAT PUTS US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE IN 2014.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT.
THAT'S LIKE THE PEOPLE COME BACK TO US.
SO, AND ARONSON ALLOW, START TO SAY, WELL, I'M DONE WITH HOMESCHOOLING THEY'RE BACK IN SCHOOL, I'M DONE WITH PAYING TUITION OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
I'M GOING TO PUT THEM BACK IN PUBLIC SCHOOL AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE CENSUS DATA IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, BUT INDICATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING IS IT'S SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY IN BLUFFTON.
SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S LIABLE TO BE VERY VOLATILE.
UH, WHAT I DID WAS I PUT LAST YEAR'S PROJECTION ON A GRAPH WITH THIS YEAR PROJECTION SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THAT VARIANCE DISTRICT-WIDE.
UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIRTH RATES AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS AND A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE ELEMENTARY ROLE.
ENROLLMENT IS GOING TO BE AMPLIFIED FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH THE PROJECTION.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT MODEL USES A WEIGHTED AVERAGE COHORT, WHICH PUTS THE MOST RECENT EMPHASIS ON THE MOST RECENT SURVIVAL TREND.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
I CAN JUMP IN BEFORE ROBIN, YOU GO FORWARD AGAIN.
I MEAN, COLONEL GAR, YOU HIT THE QUESTION RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO PROJECTIONS, YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING BASED ON OUR LATEST DROP.
WHAT WE PROJECTED BEFORE YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE EXPECTING RETURN.
THE BIG QUESTION IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RETURN IS.
IS IT A HUNDRED PERCENT? IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO THE ORANGE LINE.
IF IT'S ZERO, IT STAYS AT THE BLUE AND NO IN OUR GUESTS IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN PROBABLY CLOSER TO THE ORANGE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT ANYBODY THAT TELLS YOU, THEY DO KNOW IS MAKING IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
WELL, AND THAT'S ALL THE MORE REASON WHY THAT SURVEY OF THE PARENTS CAN GIVE US SOME MORE INSIGHT FROM MAKING OUR OWN PROJECTIONS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'M GATHERING HERE.
AND CAROL, YOU KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A DRASTIC DROP IN THAT ONE YEAR THAT IT'S KIND OF SKEWING THE TABLES, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF IT'S IT'S SO DRASTIC OF A DROP, RIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I STARTED HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER PLANNERS TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO INTERPRET, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR'S
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DATA, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT THAT? AND A LOT OF THEM, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION, THE SCENARIO OF WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE GOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR NEW FACILITIES, THAT KIND OF THING, THEY WERE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THEIR PLANNING AND MAYBE NOT PULL THE TRIGGER AS QUICKLY TO SEE HOW IT REBOUNDS, THAT KIND OF THING.BUT THEY, THEY SORT OF, WEREN'T GONNA STOP THEIR FORWARD PROGRESS BECAUSE OF THIS SORT OF PANDEMIC YEAR AND NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH KIDS COMING ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET WITH REALTORS BECAUSE REALTORS NORTH OF THE BROAD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN
WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, AT DATTO ISLAND, THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY 130 HOMES ON THE MARKET AT ANY ONE TIME OVER THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS TODAY, THEY HAVE LESS THAN 30 AND THEY'VE GOT REALTORS KNOCKING ON PEOPLE'S DOORS SAYING, HEY, SOME PEOPLE HAD DROPPED BY SAW YOUR HOUSE AND WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SELLING.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING IN BLUFFTON.
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TALK TO THE REALTORS AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? WHAT'S THE MARKET, WHAT'S YOUR MARKET THAT YOU'RE WORKING FOR? AND WHAT ARE YOU SEEING COMING IN THE BLUFFTON? ARE YOU SEEING YOUNG FAMILIES? ARE YOU SEEING OLDER FAMILY? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US AT LEAST SOME INDICATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S AN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE THAT AFTER COVID IS OVER COMING BACK INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY SOFT.
AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M HERE IN BLUFFTON AND CAROL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS WELL, UM, JUST DRIVING AROUND BLUFFTON DURING COVID, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING HASN'T STOPPED.
SO IT'S, IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
THERE'S STILL NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT.
SO, UM, DEFINITELY ALL SIGNS POINT TO THINGS CONTINUING, BUT THAT'S LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THIS IS LIKELY BEEN THE, UH, SILK, THE SILVER LINING IS, IS THAT THIS PERHAPS BOUGHT US AT A TIME TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE, THE GROWTH ISSUES THAT WE HAD BEEN DEALING WITH BEFORE.
SO, UM, NO, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
UH, IF WE LOOK THE NEXT SLIDE, IT WALKS AT, UM, BLUFFTON CLUSTER BY ITSELF.
UH PRE-K THROUGH 12, AGAIN, THE GREEN LINE IS LAST YEAR'S PROJECTION AND THE BLUE LINE IS THIS YEAR'S PROJECTION.
UM, SO YOU SEE, WE WERE GOING TO RUN OUT OF SPACE COMPLETELY IN 21, 22.
UM, BUT NOW THE PROJECTION MODEL, UM, SHOWS US HAVING ENOUGH AVAILABLE SPACE, BASICALLY BEING FLAT.
AGAIN, IF THE STUDENTS COME BACK AND ROBERTS, AS ROBERT SAID, IT COULD PUT US CLOSER BACK TO THAT GREEN LINE.
UM, AND AS YOU SAID, DR WAS NESBY.
IT MAY BUY US TIME THAT YOU KNOW, THAT NEW LINE THAT WE PROBABLY WILL PROJECT NEXT YEAR.
MAYBE CLOSER TO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, THIS IS THE KEY PROBLEM BECAUSE EITHER WE NEED A SCHOOL IN TWO YEARS.
OH, WE DON'T NEED A SCHOOL FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
SO WE'RE EITHER BEHIND, ALREADY, OR WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE LOOKS, UM, AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL, CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF HOW YOU ALL WERE WE'RE LOOKING AT SO WE COULD DETERMINE NEED AGAIN, THE GREEN LINE IS, WERE
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OUR PROJECTIONS FOR LAST YEAR AND THE BLUE LINE IS THIS YEAR'S PROJECTION.UM, SO WE WERE ANTICIPATING AGAIN, RUNNING OUT OF TOTAL CAPACITY IN 2022.
UM, IF THIS YEAR'S PROJECTION WERE TO HOLD TRUE, WE WOULD NEED ANYTHING PAST 25, AS ROBERT SAID.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE DROP AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OUR BIGGEST DROP WAS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL.
IT'S NOT SEEING ANY KIND OF GROWTH EXCEPT WAY OUT THERE THEN, WHICH I'M NOT SURE NEVER DID.
THERE WAS ANOTHER THING, NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE DIRECTION IN SOUTH CAROLINA BASED ON THE GOVERNOR'S RECENT SPEECHES, THE BENCH OF PK, UM, SO THESE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE COULD BE IMPACTED AS THOSE POLICY CHANGES ARE INACTIVE STATEWIDE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S A POSITION THAT'S BEEN TAKEN.
SO, UM, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT CERTAINLY IS IF THAT GETS FUNDED, THAT NOT ONLY HAS AN IMPACT ON THE CAPACITY, IT ALSO COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON FACILITIES, RIGHT? BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DESIGNED INTO PRE-K CLASSROOMS, SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THAT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT.
UH, THE NEXT SLIDE LOOKS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL AND AGAIN, THE GREEN IS LAST YEAR AND THE BLUE LINE IS THIS YEAR AND GREEN LINE.
WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, CROSSING OVER CAPACITY IN 2021.
NOW WE DO NOT SEE IT, UM, CROSSING OVER, YOU SEE A, A DROP THERE IN THOSE FINAL YEARS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT FIFTH YEAR OUT IS SORTA RELATED TO THE CURRENT SIGNIFICANT DROP AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL AS THE PROGRAM SEES THOSE KIDS MOVING THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND HITTING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT ELEMENTARY IS DROPPING OFF.
IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THAT FIFTH YEAR GOING OUT.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE LOOKS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AGAIN, GREEN MINUS IS LAST YEAR'S BLUE LINE IS THIS YEAR'S, UH, THE, THE CAPACITY IN LINE DOES INCLUDE THE ADDITIONS AT MAY WHEREVER AS THE PREVIOUS TWO SLIDES DID INCLUDE THOSE ADDITIONS AT RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY, UM, BOTH BLUFFED AND HIGH AND MAY RIVER HIGH CONTINUE TO GROW THIS YEAR.
SO YOU DO SEE A GROWTH LINE OR THE PROJECTION IS JUST NOT AS SIGNIFICANT, UM, GROWTH AS LAST YEAR'S.
AND YOU SEE, AGAIN, IT'S LEVELING OFF THERE IN THAT FIFTH YEAR OUT AGAIN, PULLING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE WERE SEEING FOR FIVE YEARS OUT FOR THE PREVIOUS GROUP, RIGHT? COVID 19 SAID IT'S NOT A TRUE DRAMATIC EFFECT ON OUR PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I JUST KIND OF HAD THIS FUN, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
KNOWN AS WHICH PROJECTIONS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO ACTUALITY AND IN OUR COVID 19 WORLD, OR WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, RECOVER FROM COVID-19.
AND I COULD SAY RIGHT NOW IS ONLY TIME IS GOING TO GIVE US AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
I GOT SOME RECENT DATA FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, I THINK IT WAS PRESENTED AT TOWN COUNCIL IN THEIR MEETING.
I THINK THEY MET MONDAY NIGHT AND, UM, HEATHER COLLIN, YOU KNOW, HAS MET WITH US HERE BEFORE SHE SENT OVER THIS DATA FOR US.
SO I PULLED OUT A FEW OF THE SIGNIFICANT PIECES.
I THINK THERE'S THREE THINGS WE'LL LOOK AT.
UM, THIS ONE IS, UM, BUILDING PERMITS AND I DID CONFIRM WITH HER TODAY, ALTHOUGH IT SAYS, UH, ON THE 2020, IT SAYS 20, 22 DATE, SHE CONFIRMED THAT ACTUALLY IS ALL THE DATA FOR 2020.
UM, ON THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T UPDATE THAT LITTLE TITLE HEADING ON THEIR SLIDE ON THEIR GRAPH.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS REALLY THE ORANGE, THE RESIDENTIAL NEW SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.
SO EVEN WITH 2020, THEY DIDN'T SEE A HUGE DROP, UM, IN BUILDING PERMITS, NOT LIKE THEY HAVE HAD SEEN FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO THE HIGH POINTS WERE LOOKED LIKE WERE, YOU KNOW, 17 AND 18.
SO THERE'S CERTAINLY STILL BUILDING A NEW RESIDENTIAL.
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AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE SORT OF TAKES A LOOK AT WHERE THINGS ARE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THE DIFFERENT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.THEY HAVE A HUGE SPREADSHEET IN THEIR PRESENTATION, WHICH YOU CAN REACH THROUGH THE LINK AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE.
AND I JUST SORT OF MADE A CONDENSED SPREADSHEET CAUSE THEY ALSO TRACK, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND PERMITS.
AND THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO LOOK AT.
CAUSE IF THAT IS INCREASING AT SOMETIME AN INDICATION THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL WILL BE INCREASING.
UM, BUT THIS SORT OF CONDENSES IT DOWN.
YOU'LL SEE, UM, SORT OF GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROBIN AND GO AHEAD AND PUT UP THAT NEXT SLIDE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, WHERE WE'RE SEEING OUR GROWTH AREAS AT MAY RIVER AT PRICHARD ADVIL, YOU KNOW, AT RIVER RIDGE, THOSE ARE IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE, UM, BUCK, WALTER JONES ESTATE, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE LIKE JONES A STATE'S ONLY 67%.
BUILT-OUT NEW, RIVERSIDE'S ONLY AT 50% BUILD OUT, UM, PALMETTO BLUFFS ONLY AT 25%, BUT I DON'T FORESEE THAT REALLY HAVING A HUGE IMPACT ON STUDENTS FOR US.
AND THEN BULK WATER IS AT 69% BUILD OUT.
SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS ARE, ARE STILL HUGE FOR WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED.
UM, LIKE AT BUCK WALTER, THERE'S STILL 2,649 RESIDENTIAL THAT CAN BE PERMITTED.
UM, NEW RIVERSIDE STILL GOT 1800.
SO THE PERCENTAGE TELLS ONE STORY.
THE ACTUAL NUMBER TELLS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER STORY THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THAT CHART THAT PREVIOUS YEAR
SO DO I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW? YES.
AND AT WHAT PACE AND WHAT RATE AGAIN, BACK TO OUR CRYSTAL BALL QUESTION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING REALLY IT WAS HOW MANY OF THESE NEW HOMES THAT A DOCTOR WAS NEST.
HE SAID TWO SEES BEING BUILT ALL THE ART SPECULATION, HOME SPEC HOMES, AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE OWNER BUILT HOMES.
UH, YOU LITERALLY COULD TELL THAT, TELL US THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT BUY SPEC HOMES ARE PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN.
MOST PEOPLE THAT BUILD BUILDER HOMES ARE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUR OLDER BUILDING THAT FINAL HOME BUILDING THAT A RETIREMENT HOME, THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND THAT COULD ALSO GIVE US SOME KIND OF A LITTLE MORE, BUT DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF WHAT KIND OF FOLKS WE CAN ANTICIPATE AS FAR AS KIDS COMING IN.
AND WHEN YOU SORT OF DELVE DOWN A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, JONES, A STATE, YOU KNOW, THAT RUNS RIGHT THERE ON ONE 70 AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, CYPRESS RIDGE.
AND IT INCLUDES THAT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT BEING BUILT THERE, UM, WHOSE NAME JUST FLEW OUT OF MY HEAD RIGHT THERE NEAR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, BUT THAT ONE IS PLANNED TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, AGE RESTRICTED.
SO THAT WILL BE A LOT OF PERMITS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL PRODUCE STUDENTS, WHICH MAY BE GOOD FOR US.
CAUSE THAT'LL TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE PERHAPS OFF HAROLD, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN, UM, DO THE HIGH POINTS OF THIS AT THE, UH, 19TH MEETING PERHAPS? UM, I JUST THINK THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE FULL BOARD TO SEE.
I THINK THEY'D DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN, I MEAN THAT FIRST SLIDE THAT HAD ALL THE CHANGES AND WHATNOT.
I JUST WONDER IF, AND DICK I'D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THESE CHARTS KIND OF, UM, PROVIDE A GOOD LENS AND A GOOD, IT PROVIDES THE FULL BOARD WITH A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING.
UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A PREVIOUSLY EXTREMELY HIGH GROWTH AREA.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL MAYBE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND BLUFFTON WAS, UM, IMPACTED IN A VERY
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INTERESTING WAY.I THINK NOW, RACHEL, I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS A TWO TO THREE HOUR DISCUSSION.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GOOD TO HAVE AT OUR, UH, WORK SESSION.
WHEN IS THE, UM, THAT'S THE END OF THE MONTH, BUT WE ARE COMING WITH THE BOOK, WHICH WILL CONTAIN MOST OF THIS INFORMATION HOPEFULLY TO THE BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY.
I'LL JUST DO MY, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL HINT AT THAT IN MY INTERIM REPORT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT, UM, VERY SOON.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THESE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WE WOULD SHOW IN THAT PRESENTATION.
I HAVEN'T PUT THAT TOGETHER YET, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY A LOT OF THE PROJECTION INFORMATION AND SOME OF THE, THE GROWTH INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM BLUFFTON, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT GO IN THERE AS WELL.
SO I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH IT'LL BE PROBABLY THE SAME PRESENTATION, BUT TO ME TO DO IT FOR FOREVER.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE BOOK THAT THEN TOO, THE BOOK THAT WILL HAVE LOTS OF ASTERIX IN YOUR BATHROOM, THE WORD COVID IS IN THERE A LOT.
IS THAT, UM, SO WHAT IS OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA HERE, ROBIN, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON
[Discussion on Attendance Zones]
THAT, UM, ITEM G DISCUSSION ON ATTENDANCE ZONES, CAROLINE AND DICK, IS THIS OKAY? I THINK WE WERE GOING TO JUST BECAUSE WE WERE USING THE OTHER DATA AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR GROWTH AND THE MORE QUICKER NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT ATTENDANCE ZONES IN LIGHT OF NEED FOR NEW SCHOOLS.RIGHT? SO WHETHER WE NEED TO SORT OF PAUSE ON THAT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I BROUGHT THIS UP AND, UH, I WAS OF THE OPINION THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE QUICKLY AND MAYBE EVEN START, UH, LOOKING AT USING 8% MONEY TO, UH, DO SOME DESIGN WORK, UH, THIS COMING YEAR FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR A SPECIAL REFERENDUM.
I'M THINKING NOW, GIVEN THE DATA THAT YOU'VE SHOWN, WE'VE GOT AT LEAST A YEAR TO SEE HOW THINGS FALL OUT, WHICH I DIDN'T THINK I THOUGHT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE.
SO I THINK WE CAN HOLD OFF ON IT.
BUT ON THE ATTENDANCE ZONES, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A STRATEGIC VIEW ON THESE ATTENDANCE ZONES AND START HAVING, HAVING A PLAN TO EVOLVE OUR ATTENDANCE ZONES IN A WAY THAT MAKES, UH, EFFICIENCY FOR BUS ROUTES AND PARENTS DRIVING THEIR KIDS INTO SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WITHOUT HAVING A, A BIG CHANGE, WHICH WOULD BE DISASTROUS, BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE EVOLVE SAY, OKAY, STARTING IN 2022, IF YOU'RE IN KINDERGARTEN, YOU'RE GOING TO THE KINDERGARTEN, BUT YOU SHOULD BE GOING TO NOT, NOT THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN YOUR ATTENDANCE ZONE.
SO EVENTUALLY BY THE TIME THAT KINDERGARTEN IT'S 12TH GRADE, WE GOT IT ALL SOLVED AS YOU START IT WITH EVERY CLASS GOING TO WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO.
UM, BUT THAT'S A STRATEGIC TOPIC THAT'S GOTTA BE TALKED ABOUT, PROBABLY NOT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE JUST GOTTA SOLVE WHAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.
AND WE'VE GOT TO REALLY WAIT FOR A YEAR TO HEAR HOW THE THING'S GOING TO FALL OUT WITH, UH, THE GROWTH OVERALL.
AND THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET ATTENDANCE BACK INTO, UH, INTO ORDER.
I THINK THAT BECOMES PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT HAT, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHETHER IT'S ELEMENTARY OR K EIGHT, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE MIDDLE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I THINK THAT BECOMES PART OF THAT BIGGER DISCUSSION ON THAT TYPE OF PLANNING.
AND COMING UP WITH A TIMELINE ORIGINALLY, MY GOAL FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO KIND OF COME UP WITH, UH, A PLAN FOR THE GROWTH IN BLUFFTON AND THEN COVID HIT AND TIMETABLES AND EVERYTHING JUST WENT TO HECK IN A HAND BASKET.
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I AM STILL HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN POINT THINGS IN THE, IN THE DIRECTION THAT IS BEST GOING TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA AND TO TAKE CARE OF, UM, SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PAIN POINTS.AND I THINK THAT MAYBE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THIS ADDITIONAL TIME POSSIBLY TO MAP THINGS OUT, EVEN BETTER.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH, DICK TO KIND OF PUT OFF THE T THIS TOPIC FOR NOW.
UM, WE CERTAINLY, I THINK WE'LL BE REVISITING IT THOUGH.
I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET CANDACE INVOLVED A LITTLE BIT, AND WE NEED TO TELL THE FOLKS IN BLUFFTON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THAT, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT SITTING AROUND, UH, WITH OUR THUMB IN HER MOUTH, JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE ACTUALLY COLLECTING DATA, LOOKING AT OPTIONS AND SO ON AND ALLOW THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND TO PROVIDE ANY INPUT THAT THEY HAVE.
SO WE DON'T ONE AT THE PUBLIC THINK WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND TWO, WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IN PROVIDING INPUT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, ONE OF THE PARTS GETTING THE REALTORS.
I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE WE ABOUT GETTING THE REALTOR'S INPUT FIRST AND THEN MOVING TOWARDS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY ON THE HORIZON, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW WE MESSAGE IT AND WHETHER WE DO COMMUNITY FORUMS AND PANDEMIC ERA, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT, UM, SOMETHING TO BE THINKING OF FOR SURE.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? UM,
[Discussion of Future Agenda Topics]
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.SO OUR NEXT MEETING ROBIN WOULD TYPICALLY TAKE PLACE.
WHAT IS IT FEBRUARY? IT WOULD BE FEBRUARY 25TH.
DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY.
AND ANY TOPICS? I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAD PENDING, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE THE INFORMATION ON IT BY THE 19TH, UM, MEETING, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSION, UM, WITH TANYA OR TANYA WAS STILL TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION IN REGARD TO IMPACT THESE.
ERIC SAID THAT HE CAN COME, BUT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT HAVING HIM COME AT THE FEBRUARY 2ND MEETING SO THAT HE CAN GIVE HIS, UH, INFORMATION TO THE FULL BOARD.
SO PROBABLY AS LONG AS THAT OCCURS, THEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT OUR FEBRUARY 25TH MEETING.
UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING GLEANED FROM THAT, THAT DICK YOU THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, SHOULD WE PUT IT ON THERE? IS IT PENCILED IN TENTATIVE? OKAY.
ROBIN, JUST PUT THE IMPACT, THE DISCUSSION AS A TENTATIVE, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS AT SECOND.
UM, THERE WAS, UM, ALSO DATA THAT WAS GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING FROM DANIEL ISD.
UH, BUT THAT MAY BE COMING TO OUR JANUARY 19TH MEETING ROBIN.
UM, NO, IT'S NOT COMING TO THE JANUARY 19TH.
UM, IT MIGHT BE COMING TO, IT PROBABLY CAN COME TO YOUR NEXT FUTURE.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION IF WE DON'T HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD ON THE JANUARY 19TH, THE SUGGESTION THAT THERE'LL BE A SURVEY DONE.
AND I ALSO KNOW DANIEL HAD SOME OTHER DATA, SO I JUST WANT TO GET AS MUCH INFO AS WE CAN DOING THEM AS THE MAP.
THERE'S GOING TO BE MET DEAD DATA, UH, FOR THE JANUARY 19TH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WILL IMPACT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR IN FROM ISD.
WHAT EXACTLY IS IT THAT YOU'RE WANTING HIM TO GET? UM, ROBERT, MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE WAS GATHERING SOME DATA IN REGARD TO THOSE THAT LEFT THE DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, IF THEY CAN FIND OUT WHERE THEY WENT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, ANYTHING DICK THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO COVER AS WELL? HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A RESPONSE.
UM, IF YOU CAN PUT THE REALTOR SURVEY ON THERE, ROBIN, I'LL TRY TO GIVE AN UPDATE AND SEE WHERE WE ARE ON WHAT THE, WHAT THEIR BOARD DECIDED AND, AND HOW THAT'S MOVING.
CAUSE WE MAY HAVE TO PIVOT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR BOARD DECIDES.
I THINK WE'LL GET SOME TOPICS THAT
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WILL COME FROM, UH, THE BRIEFINGS FROM THE BOARD OR BOARD FROM THE BRIEFINGS WHEN THEY GET THE, UH, THE ANNUAL PLAN OF THE 10 YEAR PLAN.I ANTICIPATING THAT WE'LL GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THE FULL BOARD THEN.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LEAVE THAT OPEN.
UH, ROBERT OR CAROL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? HAVE A QUESTION.
SO COMING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TUESDAY, YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE REPORT, THE INTERIM REPORT.
DID YOU WANT ME TO SHARE, SHARE CAROL'S POWERFUL FEBRUARY MEETING, JUST WAIT UNTIL THE FEBRUARY MEETING BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME POINTS SHE SAID, SO, OKAY.
AND THEN THE MOTION THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST MEETING, DO I NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT OR IS THAT PART OF YOUR, UM, INTERIM REPORT? SHOULD THAT BE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM UNDER IT? UM, THE AD HOC GROUP.
UM, WELL, I'M GONNA EMAIL THIS TO YOU THAT THE DRAFT OF THE INTERIM REPORT, I'M GONNA EMAIL IT TO YOU SO YOU CAN PUT IT IN BOARD DOCS.
SO I DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A SEPARATE, UM, BULLET POINT UNDER, OKAY.
UNLESS YOU'RE DIRECTED OTHERWISE BY THE OFFICERS.
WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED, HEY, THANKS EVERYBODY.