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WELL, THIS MEETING OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE TO ORDER IF YOU'LL PLEASE MUTE YOUR MICROPHONES AND PLEASE RISE WITH ME FOR THE PLANE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UM, SARAH HAS A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IN THE MEETING BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH A S C FOYER.
HAS THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT THIS TIME.
IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO CONSIDER OUR AGENDA TODAY.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING THE AGENDA? I WILL MOVE THAT.
AND THAT WAS MR. GLOVER SECONDING.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THE CHAIRMAN.
I THINK THAT WAS UNDER, MAYBE I MISSED IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN I HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
UH, I HAD IT, OH, THERE IT IS.
SALES TAX UPDATE PRESENTATION.
I THOUGHT THE STEW THAT IF IT, IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY, UM, I THINK WE, I THINK THE STAFF INTENDS TO GIVE US AN IDEA ABOUT THEIR RF QUEUE RFP PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE IN DURING THAT SECTION OF IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AGENDA? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE WILL CONSIDER THE AGENDA APPROVED.
NOW IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DEAL WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION AS WELL.
AND THAT'S APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 17TH, 2020.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CHANGES THAT ARE REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? OKAY.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THOSE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES, RESPONSIBILITIES AS DISCUSSED AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
I'M SURE ALL OF YOU SEEN THE LIST.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UM, VICE CHAIRMAN SOMERVILLE FOR HIS WORK REGARDING SETTING SOME KIND OF A LIST FOR US TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE, UM, THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING WITHIN THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR AND AS DIRECTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
UM, YOU ALL HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU AS ITEMS SIX.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS AS WE'RE, UM, AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIES, WHICH ONES OF THESE DO YOU THINK OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET ON AGENDAS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STATE WHAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT ONES.
IF WE COULD HIGHLIGHT, UM, NUMBER SEVEN, THE RESERVE STUDY OF COUNTY OWED BUILDINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR ME, BUT WE WON'T HAVE THE, UM, THE FACILITY STUDY DONE UNTIL I BELIEVE JANUARY, CORRECT ASHLEY? YES, SIR.
AND SO STARTING IN PROBABLY, UM, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF IT, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, YOU'LL SEE THAT AS A RECURRING ITEM UNTIL WE HAVE SOME RESOLUTION TO, UH, WHAT WE THINK ARE, UM, UH, APPROPRIATE USES FOR PROPERTIES AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THEM.
THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE YOU TO HIGHLIGHT IF WE COULD IS NUMBER TWO, THE GARBAGE RECYCLING AND TIPPING FEES.
UM, OF COURSE WE'RE WAITING ON THE IMPACT FEE VOTES.
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IN ORDER TO GET THE IMPACT FEES, WE NEED DEVELOPER, WE NEED AGREEMENTS WITH OUR MUNICIPALITIES.AND, UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET STAFF ANOTHER, AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH TO COME UP WITH THAT.
SO I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM EITHER IN, UH, OCTOBER OR PERHAPS NOVEMBER, BUT CERTAINLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WANT COUNTY COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE SOME RESOLUTION TO THE IMPACT FEES REGARDING, UM, RECYCLING FEES, TIPPING FEES, ET CETERA.
AND, UH, UM, CLEARLY THERE IS ANOTHER MATTER THAT I THINK WE'RE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE LATER AND THAT'S THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION WE HAVE REGARDING, UM, HILTON HEAD TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM UPDATE.
YOU'LL SEE A MONTHLY REPORT NOW, UM, ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AGENDA REGARDING TAX SALES, TAX REFERENDUM UPDATES AND ANY RESOLVING ANY PROBLEMS OR RECEIVING ANY INFORMATION THAT'S APPROPRIATE OR NECESSARY FOR US AT THE TIME TWO 78 BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, OBVIOUSLY AS THE, AS THAT ITEM ARISES, UM, ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS, WE WANT TO STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT ALSO IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM UPDATE ONE 70 STUDY IN PLAN.
I THINK WE'LL REALLY HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE, UH, I THINK THAT FIRST OF ALL, ALL THE SOURCES OF REVENUE THAT WE HAVE FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO HIGHWAY ONE 70 RIGHT NOW ARE EXHAUSTED INTO THE FUTURE.
AND SO IF WE WANT TO HAVE A PLAN, A STUDY AND A PLAN, SOMETHING WE'LL PAY FOR OUT OF POCKET, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A STOMACH TO DO IT THIS YEAR.
SO BEGINNING, I THINK THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, MAYBE IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE BRINGING THAT UP AS A MAP IN PERHAPS REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION TO EVALUATE ANY NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS AND GO THROUGH THERE, GO THROUGH THAT WAY, EVALUATING THE DECAL SYSTEM AND THE CONVENIENCE CENTER.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I INTEND TO HAVE UNTIL THE SYSTEM IS IMPLEMENTED.
WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST A MONTHLY OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE INFORMATION AND ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC, AS A HIGHLIGHTED, UM, THAT, THAT IT'S VERY VISIBLE TO THEM.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND WHERE WE'LL BE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
SO EXPECT THAT ON OUR MONTHLY AGENDA, I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA LATER, IS THERE SOMETHING RELATED TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES LIST THAT WAS GIVEN LARRY OR, YEAH, IT JUST ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING A DECAL SYSTEM, WE PUT A SLASH AT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE AND DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE ACCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS AND YARD WASTE DISPOSAL BECAUSE THE DECAL SYSTEM AND THE ELIMINATION OF PEOPLE DUMPING THAT INTO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS REDUCING THE COSTS EVEN PERHAPS BY AS MUCH AS HALF OF THE COSTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IN TANDEM AND NOT ISOLATED AS A SEPARATE THING.
YOU KNOW, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU, LARRY.
AND IF YOU WOULD, SARAH, PLEASE PUT A SLASH AT THE END OF NINE, NINE ITEM NUMBER 11, IT SHOULD SAY SLASH ACCESS OR C AND D AND YOUR DEBRIS DISPOSAL.
IS THAT APPROPRIATE FOR YOU, LARRY? DO YOU THINK THAT ANSWERS? YEP.
THE ITEM NUMBER 12 IS IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ENTERPRISE PHONE FOR RECYCLING SOLID WASTE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET AND WE'RE PROCEEDING ON.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD, UM, BE ON A PUBLIC FACILITIES AGENDA, HENCE FORTH.
IT WOULD BE, UM, APPROPRIATELY ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE UNTIL IT'S TIME TO STAND UP THAT ENTERPRISE FUND.
AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE THEORY ATTIC UPDATES REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE CLIMBED AND VARIOUS ENTERPRISES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT.
UM, IN OTHER WORDS, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO IMPLEMENT.
UM, SO I THINK WE PUT A CHECK MARK BY THAT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? OKAY.
UM, NUMBER 13 IS FUTURE REFERENDUM FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT, UM, IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START CONSIDERING, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DECEMBER IS AN APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME TO DO THAT.
AND TO AT LEAST STOP, START BORROWING, UH, BALLPARKING WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE.
AND, UH, IT'S CLEARLY IT WON'T BE ON A REFERENDUM IN 2020, BUT, UH,
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IN 21 IS NOT A GENERAL ELECTION YEAR.AND SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO DO IT DURING THAT YEAR, BUT THESE THINGS TAKEN OFF A LOT OF TIME WHEN WE NEED TO CONSULT OUR PARTNERS AND START GENERATING THE INTEREST IN THE DISCUSSION.
SO I THINK IN DECEMBER, OR MAYBE EVEN JANUARY, DEPENDING ON OUR NEED FOR A MEETING IN DECEMBER, UM, WE'LL BRING THAT UP ON AN AGENDA, OLD FEDERAL COURTHOUSE, BUILDING AND LEASING, UH, DISCONTINUANCE OF THE PARKING LOT LEASE.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
AND SO WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE AN ABILITY TO SCRATCH THAT OFF, OR AT LEAST GIVE IT THE MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHEN WE'LL BE MAKING OUR FINAL DECISIONS, ADMINISTRATION, BUILDING AND POSSIBLE ADDITIONS, RENOVATIONS.
I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY CONCURRENT WITH OUR SPACE, OUR FACILITIES USE NEED, UH, ASSESSMENT.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT IN JANUARY INFRASTRUCTURE SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS, IF A FEDERAL STIMULUS BILL IS ENACTED, ACTUALLY, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK A PROCESS FOR US TO COMPLY WITH THE CHAIRMAN'S, UH, REQUEST WOULD BE W WHAT'S THE QUESTION? OKAY.
IT SAYS INFRASTRUCTURE SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS.
IF A FEDERAL STIMULUS BILL IS ENACTED, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY CURRENTLY GOT ON OUR LIST THAT ARE, WOULD BE CONSIDERED SHOVEL-READY THAT THE ONLY THING WE'RE LACKING IS APPROPRIATE FUNDING.
UM, HOW, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT PROCESS? WELL, STAFF HAS ALREADY, UM, IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.
YOUR, YOUR MAIN PROJECT IS THE AIRPORT TERMINAL HILTON HEAD CALL.
WE HAVE, UM, QUITE A LARGE DELTA THERE THAT WE NEED TO, UM, TO COVER FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH, UM, WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, UM, UH, OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND TALK ABOUT, UH, WITH THEIR STAFF MEMBERS ABOUT THIS.
AND I ALSO WORK WITH OUR LOBBYISTS FROM LYNN STOKES, MARIE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TYPES OF LEGISLATION MIGHT BE COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH PROJECT COULD BE ELIGIBLE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THE AIRPORT IS PROBABLY THAT TOTAL PROJECT PROJECT IS PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER, SO WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
UM, MAYBE WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH AND SEE IF WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF AS SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE COURSE TAKE THE, UH, THE ADVICE, TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF COUNCIL FOR, UM, UM, KIND OF LIKE SPEEDING UP THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR, IN OUR, UM, IN OUR LIST THAT WE NEED TO, UH, OUR PROJECTS LIST THAT WE THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER AS A, AS A STIMULUS PROJECT INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE SHOVEL-READY PROJECT.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I'M THINKING THAT IN NOVEMBER, WE CAN GO INTO DETAIL REGARDING THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED, WHAT OUR CURRENT, UM, CAPACITY IS AND WHAT OUR, WE THINK OUR FUTURE NEEDS, OUR CURRENT, UM, AREAS FOR, UM, UNDER-PERFORMANCE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE'RE, WE'RE NOT QUITE UP TO SPEED AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO I'LL HAVE THAT AROUND THE NOVEMBER AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, BRIAN, JUST, JUST TO PUT SOME MORE TEETH INTO THAT ONE, WE JUST HEARD AT THE, AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ABOUT OUR GOLD BONDS AND PART OF THE BONDS WAS TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE WORTH $2.7 MILLION.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL NEED KIND OF AN UPDATE, UH, AS TO EXACTLY HOW THAT $2.7 MILLION MAY BE SPENT.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, JOE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOVEMBER MIGHT BE TOO LONG TO THINK ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD START IN OCTOBER IF WE CAN.
SO YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL CHANGE THAT TO OCTOBER IF YOU WOULD.
UM, SO WE'LL GET SOME IDEA OF WHERE THAT MONEY IS INTENDED TO BE SPENT AND, UH, FIND OUT WHERE OUR, UM, WHERE OUR, OUR, OUR THOUGHTS ARE VALUABLE TO STAFF.
UH, LET'S SEE, NUMBER TO FUSSY FERRY, UM, CURRENT FUTURE LOCATION TERMINALS AT THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AIRPORT EXPANSION.
CLEARLY THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND,
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UM, THE FIRST SKI ISLAND FERRY, UM, NEW TERMINAL FOR THE FERRY IS, UH, UH, HIGHWAY TWO 78 IMPROVEMENT, UH, AT LEAST AT CORRESPONDS TO PART OF THAT.AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN OCTOBER, WE'LL HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT SINCE THE TWO 78 IMPROVEMENTS REALLY ONLY ADDRESS THE ROAD ISSUE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE TERMINAL.
I THINK WE WANTED TO GO INTO DEPTH IN OCTOBER ABOUT THAT AS WELL, FIND OUT WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR PLAN IS, WHAT THE TIMELINE IS, AND WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO FIND, UM, RFQ AND RFPS IN PLANNING DONE BY THAT.
AND THEN THE SAME THING GOES WITH THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AIRPORT EXPANSION AS NECESSARY, I GUESS, WITH THE AIRPORT EXPANSION, WE HAVE PLANS.
ALL WE HAVE, ALL WE DON'T HAVE IS THE MONEY.
IS THAT CORRECT? ACTUALLY, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT.
UH, OCCASIONALLY AS, AS TIME PERMITS, UH, LET'S SEE, SOLID WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH INCLUDED IN NUMBER TWO.
SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, SCRATCH THAT OR, UH, SEND A NOTE ASKING FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN HE'S PROBABLY ON THERE HE IS.
PAUL DON'T YOU THINK THAT, UM, THAT NUMBER 19 IS ACTUALLY ALREADY COVERED ON THE NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER 11 IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL TO REMOVE IT FROM THIS LIST.
PAUL'S APPARENTLY NOT LISTENING TO ME.
I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, BRIAN.
UH, THE, THE WHOLE IDEA IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT LARRY SPECIFIED AS WELL.
IT'S ONE THING TO PUT A DECAL SYSTEM IN.
IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT A NEW RECYCLING PROGRAM, WHICH DAVE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT TO DO RECYCLING.
IT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND REDUCING THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEBRIS, THAT'S GOING TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS NOW.
SO IT CAN BE, UH, CAN BE HANDLED UNDER THOSE OTHER TWO ITEMS. WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE TAKE NUMBER 19 OFF THIS LIST, THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING SOME TWIST OF THE, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT, UM, THAT WAS CLEARLY INTENDED THAT I'M JUST MISSING.
SO, SO MAYBE WE'LL, UM, I'LL SEND PAUL A. LITTLE NOTE AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT HE UNDERSTANDS.
WE, I THINK THAT IT'S COVERED UNDER ITEM NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER 11, AND TO SEND ME SOME MORE INFORMATION, IF HE THINKS THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT.
UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS, PART OF THE CURRENT BUDGET.
UM, I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO HANDLE THAT BECAUSE WE JUST GOT DONE WITH THE BUDGET SEASON AND ALL THOSE PROJECTS WERE LISTED IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS, UM, IF THIS IS ASKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT EACH PROJECT, WHICH WE WILL DO AS PART OF OUR MONTHLY REVIEW OR WHETHER IT'S, IT REALLY IS INTENDED TO MEAN ALL THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR, AND THAT WE'RE NOT PROCEEDING WITH AS YET.
SO I'LL ASK AROUND ABOUT THAT AND LEAVE IT HERE AS AN ITEM FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, MAKE SURE WE GET IT FILLED IN APPROPRIATELY.
AND THEN FACILITY STUDY UPDATES, AS WE SAID, THAT'S ALREADY HANDLED ON HER A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS, AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT ON THERE SO THAT WE MAKE SURE IT, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN JANUARY WE'LL HAVE, UM, FURTHER INFORMATION AND PROBABLY BE THE SUBJECT OF A MEETING EITHER JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, ONCE IT'S BEEN EVALUATED BY STAFF.
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION, ANY OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT ARE NOT ON THIS LIST THAT ARE, THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT AND WANT TO ADD MR. CHAIRMAN? COULD I, UM, YEAH.
UM, CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, OUR, UM, BOAT LANDINGS AND, UM, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE BOOKS.
LANDINGS, SHOULD THAT BE HERE ON ONE OF THESE LISTS HERE? OR IS IT COVER SOMEPLACE ELSE? YEAH.
IS THERE, IS THERE A SPECIFIC ITEM THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION RIGHT NOW, IN OTHER WORDS, MAINTENANCE AT A PARTICULAR BOAT LANDING, BECAUSE FRANKLY,
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THOSE CAN BE JUST EMAILED TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND GET REALLY PROMPT RESPONSE.UM, AND, BUT IF THERE'S LIKE A GENERAL CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE, UM, PERHAPS WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, OR NOVEMBER.
I CAN EMAIL THE ADMINISTRATION OR I CAN JUST SAY RIGHT NOW IN PARTICULAR, THE, UH, STATION CREEK ON SEASIDE ROAD.
I'VE MADE A, MADE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT AS WELL FOR IT AS A COMPLAINT FROM CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THAT.
AND USUALLY BECAUSE SOME TRASH BUILDUP, UM, THE, UM, THE W THE ONE GARBAGE, UM, 55 GALLON DRUM GETS FULL VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND NEEDS TO BE DUMPED A LITTLE MORE FREQUENTLY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SEASON THAT WAS BASICALLY, UH, AT THIS TIME.
AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH REGARDING, UH, MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE FOR BOAT LANDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CAMP.
I APPRECIATE THAT MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO MR. GLOVER'S FROM, TO LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE THAT ITEM FOR ACTION, AND WE'LL RESPOND TO YOU ON THAT ONE ON STATION CREEK, BUT, UM, OVERALL THAT'S BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF AND I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SOME TIME.
WE DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN FOR, UM, FOR MAINTAINING AND UPGRADING OUR BOAT LANDINGS, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF B FOR COUNTY.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA HAVE SO MUCH TO DO WITH NOT ONLY QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO OUR VISITORS.
AND SO WE DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED, UM, UH, A SEPARATE PROGRAM JUST FOR MAINTAINING AND UPGRADING AND JUST KEEPING THOSE BOAT LANDINGS, UM, AND IT'S GOING TO SHAPE AS POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, ADD THAT AS A, AS AN ITEM TO THE END OF THIS LIST AND HAVE IT, I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY WROTE IT, SARAH DIDN'T.
I SEE THAT, UM, BOAT LANDING SCHEDULE FOR MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT PERHAPS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE, NOT JUST STATION CREEK, BUT IT'S ALL, ALL BOAT LANDINGS.
THANK YOU, MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT FOR ALL BOAT LANDINGS SCHEDULE SLASH PLAN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE LIST? STUART, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME PLACES WHERE YOU CAN CONSOLIDATE SOME THINGS.
UH, MY RECOLLECTION OF THE CAPITAL, UH, ON ITEM 20 WAS THAT WE APPROVED THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT WE NEVER REALLY DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAPITOL.
SO NOT THAT IT WAS PRESSING, BUT I DO THINK WE STILL HAVE TO REVISIT THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
AT SOME POINT, I SEE TWO ADS HERE.
UH, ONE IS WE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT FIXING THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY CIRCLE AT 46 AND SOME WORK WAS DONE I'M GUESSING YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, THERE WAS A AGREEMENT I THINK, FROM STD OR T THAT IT WAS CERTAINLY PARTIALLY BROKEN, UH, BUT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO PUT ANY MONEY INTO IT.
AND, AND, AND, UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM BLUFFTON CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO A BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT I THINK THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY JUST TO AVOID THE CIRCLE, UH, BECAUSE IT IS IT'S, IT'S DANGEROUS AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO NICK AVENUE AND THE GAVIGAN AND THE NAVIGATE NAVIGATE FOR MOST PEOPLE.
SO TO ME, THAT'S THE ONE ITEM YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER LAND ASKING, ADDING, UH, THE OTHER WOULD BE DEPENDING ON OUR DISCUSSION COMING OUT LATER IN THE AGENDA, THE INTERSECTION AT BUCK WALTER AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY HAS BEEN HANGING AROUND FOR A WHILE, BUT THE MAIN ITEM I WOULD SPEAK TO, AND THIS COMES AS DOES ABOUT FOUR, THREE THINGS THAT KIND OF COME TOGETHER IN MY MIND.
LET ME GET SARAH TO ADD NUMBER 24, WHICH WOULD BE EVALUATION OF, UM, UM, BLUFFTON ROAD, UM, BLUFFTON PARKWAY CIRCLE.
AND THEN WHAT WAS THE, THE SECOND PART YOU STARTED TO SAY ONE WOULD BE THE INTERSECTION AT BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BUCK WALTER, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.
PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE TO ME IS A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE.
IF I MELD THEM ALL TOGETHER, ONE IS THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX, WHICH WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IN 2022.
UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, ONE 70 PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, AN ITEM NUMBER 10 AND THE SHOVEL-READY, WHICH WAS ITEM,
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WHATEVER IT WAS.UM, AND IT, IT SEEMS TO ME, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LONG WAY OUT.
UH, I THINK WHEN WE DID THE 2018 REFERENDUM, WE WERE PRETTY FAR DOWNSTREAM ON WHAT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME INTERACTION WITH LATS.
UM, AND THAT, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THERE, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO POTENTIALLY BE DOING SOME OF THE ENGINEERING, UH, TO GET, UH, SHOVEL READY, UH, WHICH I THINK IS MORE OF A FEDERAL ISSUE FEDERAL FUNDS THAN IT IS A STATE ONE, IT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT IN ANY EVENT, I TEND TO THINK THAT WE'RE KIND OF AT LEAD TIME ALMOST FOR A 20, 22, UM, PENNY SALES TAX.
ALTHOUGH THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LONG WAY OFF.
SO TO ME, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE SOMEWHAT OF A PRIORITY.
IT IS TO THANK, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF COURSE, IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET SO FAR AHEAD OF ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE I REMEMBER OUR CONVERSATION, YOU AND I TALKING ABOUT HOW NICE IT IS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAY, LOOK WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE LAST ONE, WHICH WE'VE NOW STOPPED COLLECTING, AND NOW WE'RE READY FOR ANOTHER ONE.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF DONE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR FOCUS HERE TODAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE CAN SPEED THINGS UP.
UM, BUT I DO THINK JANUARY IS TOO LATE TO BE DOING DECEMBER AND JANUARY IS TOO LATE TO BE DOING THAT.
OR DO YOU THINK THAT'S ABOUT APPROPRIATE? WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE W WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT ACT, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, IT'S DUE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, IT WILL CERTAINLY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE WHATEVER ITEMS OR SOME OF THE ITEMS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR THE, UH, REFERENDUM INCORPORATED IN THAT MORE, MORE THAN GREAT STEW I THINK IS REQUIRED.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT FROM LATS.
UM, AND JUST ALL THESE THINGS START TO COME TOGETHER AND UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE, ONE 70 IS BROKEN BETWEEN TWO 78 AND FOUR 62 WITH ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
AND UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON THE REFERENDUM.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SOONER WE START SPENDING A LITTLE MONEY AND LOOKING AT THAT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING ALL OUR ACT TOGETHER, THE BETTER, THANKS, SARAH.
IF WE COULD NOT, NOT DECEMBER, JANUARY FOR THAT DISCUSSION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TEE IT UP NEXT MONTH, UM, IN OCTOBER, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING OUR LIST AND SETTING IT, UM, THE AGENDAS FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, JUST, JUST ONE MORE FOR ME, BRIAN WOULD BE AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT IN TIME FROM CTC REGARDING THE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PAVED AND THE PROCESS THEY'RE GOING TO USE TO DO THE NEXT ROUND.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THAT IN OCTOBER AS WELL.
AND, UM, AND I THINK SARAH, YOU COULD PUT DOWN EITHER ON THIS LIST OR ON THE PERSPECTIVE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER, UM, CTC DIRT ROAD PAVING, UM, UPDATES WHAT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S COMING WHAT'S YET TO BE DONE, THAT KIND OF THING.
DOES THAT HANDLE IT, JOE? YES.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE WAS A, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA, ONE 70 QUARTER QUARTER ACCESS MANAGEMENT STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN OCTOBER OF 2019 THAT GAVE SHORT MEDIUM, AND LONG-TERM SUGGESTED PROJECTS TO HANDLE ROUTE ONE 70, BETWEEN TWO 78 AND FOUR 62.
I'M SURE WE'LL BE REVIEWING THAT NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN AHEAD, THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND YOU GOT THE CDC ON UNPAVED ROAD.
WHAT ABOUT THE UPDATE ON RESURFACING AS WELL? GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT SARAH, IF YOU CAN PROJECTS, THANK YOU ALL.
UM, SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I THINK JARED IS GOING TO GIVE US, UH, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT UPDATE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS STUFF THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE.
I THINK JARED, WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US? I'M ACTUALLY GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN,
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JOE PASSMAN.WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE? THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? COUNCILMAN CHAIRMAN? YES, WE CAN.
SO I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE ARE PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE WORKS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR AND AWARE OF.
UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING WIGEON POINT PARK, UM, THIS ONE IS FINISHING UP IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, WORKING ON THE FINAL PUNCH LIST ITEMS WE HAVE SEPTEMBER, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY OCTOBER, WE'LL GO HAVE A SOFT OPENING IN OCTOBER, UM, IS CONTINUING, UM, UNDER BUDGET.
AND THIS IS A PART OF THE, UM, AREA RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS STILL LOOKOUT POINT THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
SO, UM, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING IN THE PROCESS OF A PROPOSAL FOR A MONUMENT SIGN OUT FRONT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE FINISHING UP THE LAST PART TO THIS PROJECT.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE BOSTON CIRCLE DSN HOME.
UM, THIS PROJECT ALSO IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND UNDER BUDGET.
SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE TOWER WE IN FINISHED.
UM, SO FINISHING UP THE FINAL DETAILS AS WELL AS, UH, CLEANING UP THE OUTSIDE.
UM, BUT THERE'S A PICTURE HERE ON THE OUTSIDE AS IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP WORK.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED IN JANUARY.
SO LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE 90% AHEAD OF SCHEDULE OR 90% AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD BE FINISHED IN NOVEMBER.
NEXT PROJECT IS TO SHANKLIN ROAD, UM, EMS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXTERIOR WORKS ALL FINISHED.
I'M WORKING ON THE INTERIOR TILING, UM, COUNTERTOPS AND SUCH ALSO PREPARING FOR THE SITE WORK WITH THE CONCRETE AND SIDEWALK.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE DELIVERED IN NOVEMBER FRAZIER.
CONSTRUCTION'S DOING THIS WORK.
YEAH, FREMONT INTERPRETIVE CENTER.
UM, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK ON THE OUTSIDE IS COMPLETE.
UM, THEY'RE MOVING INTO THE INSIDE.
UM, THEY, THEY, NOW THAT THEY'RE MOVED INTO THE INSIDE ARE STARTING TO HIT THEIR STRATEGY.
SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING MUCH CLOSER.
THE EVERYTHING IS MOVING FORWARD AND CONTINUES TO STAY ON BUDGET ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THIS ONE, UM, CLOSELY RELATED, BUT SEPARATE PROJECT.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS DOING GREAT.
UM, THIS IS MAJ ENTERPRISE, A SMALL LOCAL COMPANY FROM HILTON HEAD DOING THE WORK THEY'LL BE BRINGING IN THE RAW AND, UM, DOING THE PERFORM IN THEIR ROAD ENTRANCE AND THE PARKING.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEY'RE DOING THE SITE WORK FOR GETTING THE SITE WATER READY AND GETTING READY TO PLACE THE ROCK.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY WERE, IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY WERE, UH, THE LOW BID BY A DRAMATIC AMOUNT.
UM, BUT THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OUT THERE.
SO ARTHUR HORN BUILDING, UM, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE INTERIOR.
THEY'RE ON TO THE SECOND FLOOR AS FAR AS FRAMING THAT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO THE THIRD FLOOR.
UM, WE'RE ALSO COORDINATING WITH DOMINION ENERGY RIGHT NOW TO BRING IN THE PERMANENT POWER.
UM, ALSO WORKING, UM, WHO JUST DID A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE ITC ASSESSMENT.
SO, UM, WE CAN ANALYZE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN WHAT WE NEED FROM THERE.
BUT AS MENTIONED, UH, IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THIS PROJECT IS ON BUDGET AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT.
UM, SO THEY'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS WITH THE PLAN COMPLETION, DATE
SO THIS IS FOR THE PASSIVE PARK AND ROAD AND PARKING, UM, AND ALSO FOR THE PAVILION OVERVIEW
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AT THE BUFORD RIVER, UM, THEY GOT STARTED ON THIS AND THEY'RE JUST OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE SITE WORK NOW, BUT, UM, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY PROGRESS HERE NICELY, UM, AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.EVERYTHING'S MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, AS PLANNED AND EMS FIRE STATION 31.
THIS IS THE ONE WE JUST HELD THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY.
UH, FRAZIER CONSTRUCTION HAS THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 4TH AND THEY ARE STARTING RIGHT THERE AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE BUILDING AND CONTINUING TO, UM, HAVE ALL THE BMPS INSTALLED AND START ON THE SITE WORK.
THIS HERE IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THERE'S A COUPLE, UM, THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED.
UM, ONE OF THEM BEING THE DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT, UM, AS MENTIONED, SO THAT IS BEING DONE, PERFORMED IN CONCERT WITH CTC AND ON TECH FUNDS, UM, AND THOSE TECH FUNDS.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, UNDERDESIGNED HAS BEEN AWARDED TO J H HIRES AND ANDREW'S ENGINEERING AS A DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON THE FIRST ROAD AS FAR AS THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND STARTING SURVEY WORK ON THE SECOND AND THIRD BRIDGE RIGHT NOW.
UM, OTHER PROJECTS NOT COVERED, UM, MR. SISI, HEY DESIGN.
SO THIS IS THE, UM, JUST THE ENGINEERING FOR THE TEMPORARY FACILITY OUT OF THE AGE TAX THAT WAS RECEIVED.
SO THAT WORK IS, UM, BEEN SCOPED OUT FOR THE TEMPORARY FACILITY OF $18,000 ON THAT, AS WELL AS A POOL RESURFACING AND BE FOR HASKELL.
THIS CONTINUES, UM, PROGRESS AS SLATED.
SO REALLY NO IMPROVEMENTS, UM, CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU HAD TO TAKE PICTURES OF WHEN, WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE FINISHED? UM, THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE, UM, ANDERSON POOL IS WORKING ON THAT.
I NEED TO CHECK BACK WITH ANDREA ATHERTON ON THAT AND GET YOU UPDATE.
AND THEN TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONTRACT TEED UP FOR CONSTRUCTION IS THE DNA LABORATORY EXPANSION IN THE BIV, UM, AREA HERE, VIV NUMBER FIVE.
UM, SO THAT IS PLOWED CM, UM, LLC.
AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT AND GETTING THAT TEED UP, UH, WITH THE CITY OF BUFORD, UM, SAM'S POINT TURN LANE THAT WAS JUST AWARDED AT COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 14TH TO APAC.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING CONTRACTS AND OUT TO THOSE FOLKS SO WE CAN GET A NOTICE TO PROCEED STARTED HOPEFULLY, UH, IN THE NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME AND THEN PROJECTS IN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE EMS AND SUN CITY, UM, FIRE STATION, UM, THAT'S UNDER DESIGN, THE FORT FREDERICK PHASE TWO, THAT'S STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE BUCK WALTERS, SOCCER FIELD AND TENNIS FACILITY.
UM, THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS THE CTC FUNDS, UM, THAT IS BEING SCOPED OUT RIGHT NOW BY STAFF WITH THE HOPES TO HAVE THAT OUT, TO BE, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS, ALL THESE PROJECTS, UH, JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDING ARE UPDATED, UM, ON THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH TO THE BEAVER COUNTY ENGINEERING WEBSITE, UM, AS HAS PROVIDED.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SORRY, JARED, DID YOU SAY IT'S EVERY FIRST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH THEY'RE POSTED TO THE ENGINEERING WEBSITE? THAT'S RIGHT.
ALL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT, UH, AT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE MAY WANT TO ALERT THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO GO TO SEE.
UM, JARED, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE LIST REAL QUICK, DO YOU HAVE IT IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE OR IS IT GONE? YEP.
NO, LET ME HIT SHARE, YOU KNOW, I CAN GIVE YOU, WELL HERE.
MY QUESTION WAS REGARDING THE, UH, FUEL MOVE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT RIGHT THERE, THE 51, A DIRT ROAD PAVING.
UM, WHERE IS THAT LIST OF WHAT THE PROJECTS FOR 51 A IS? WHERE CAN I FIND THAT LIST? UM, IT IS A CTC, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THEIR, UM, COORDINATION.
SO WE HAVE THAT, UM, WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT
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WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL MINUTES ON ITS OWN THAT, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, WE CAN MAKE THAT THE WEBSITE SOMEWHERE IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERING.IT IS RICE ROOM, UM, SALICORNIA LORD'S LANDING IN, UM, GEORGE WILLIAMS ROAD.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE HARRISON ROAD IS ON WEST HARRISON ISLAND ROAD? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN PULL UP AND LET YOU KNOW.
IS THAT RIGHT? JOE HARRISON ISLAND ROAD? YES, IT IS.
THAT WAS, UM, I'M JUST ABOUT READY TO GO.
UM, MOVING ON THEN TO SALES TAX UPDATE PRESENTATION AGAIN, RIGHT? YEP.
SO I'LL CONTINUE TO PULL THE SCREEN.
SO, UM, SO AS FAR AS COLLECTIONS TODAY, UM, WE STARTED COLLECTING IN MAY 1ST, 2019 AND HAVE RECEIVED FOUR QUARTERS WORTH THUS FAR, UH, UP THROUGH THE END OF, UH, FOURTH, QUARTER 20, AS FAR AS RECEIPTS.
UH, AND WE'RE AT $35 MILLION IN, SO THAT DID ENCOMPASS A LITTLE BIT OF COVID STARTING IN MARCH.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE FIRST QUARTER 21 POSTED YET AND AVAILABLE, UM, TO FURTHER ANALYZE WILL IMPACTS WERE MADE FROM COVID.
UM, BUT JUST FOR THE INITIAL IMPASSE, IT DOES LOOK BY, WE ARE STILL ARE MAINTAINING, UM, THE FOUR YEARS, $120 MILLION, UM, THAT WAS INTENDED, RIGHT? SO JUST IN GENERAL, THE PROCESS THAT THE PROCESS IS SAME IN ALMOST A TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, PLANNING, DESIGN, AND ENGINEERING ON THE PERMITTING RIGHT AWAY, UM, ACQUISITION AND THEN CONSTRUCTION.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE TALK THROUGH THESE PROJECTS.
SO THE FIRST ONE $80 MILLION BEING ON, UH, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON HILTON HEAD, HOLD ON, JARED.
ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOW SOMETHING? OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S THE ONE I'M LOOKING FOR.
THE THREE PROJECTS, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON HILTON HEAD, THE LADY'S ISLAND IMPROVEMENTS, $30 MILLION IN THE SIDEWALK PATHWAY IMPROVES.
SO THIS IS THE CHART I WAS REFERRING TO AS FAR AS $35 MILLION COLLECTED, UM, THROUGH THE FIRST, UH, THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTER OF 2020.
SO WE'LL GET THE NUMBERS HERE SOON FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF 21.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, MORE FULLY WHAT THE IMPACTS FROM COVID HAS BEEN ON THE SALES TAX COLLECTION.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, VERY SIMILAR ON ALL THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, PLANNING AND DESIGN ENGINEERING, AS WELL AS PUBLIC INPUT, UM, INTO PERMITTING THEN RIGHT AWAY, ACQUISITION AND FURTHER IN THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO IN THE FIRST PROJECT, UH, $80 MILLION TOWARDS HILTON HEAD, UM, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND DEITY HAS TAKEN LEAD AS WE'RE WELL AWARE.
UM, THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE 10 STEPS THEY'RE, UM, WORKING TOWARDS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY DECISION WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, LOOKING TOWARDS THE 20, 21, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE ARE NAVIGATING THE PROCESS.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS, BUT, UM, VERY INFORMATIVE AND GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES AND CONTINUING TO GET INPUT.
UH, THE FIRST MEETING STARTED IN SEPTEMBER, 2018, WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE 16 ALTERNATIVES AS SHOWN HERE, KIND OF LOOKS A LITTLE BIT SPAGHETTI.
UM, BUT THAT WAS TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, UH, AND TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED FROM THERE.
UM, THEY CONTINUED TO MEET, UM, IN SEPTEMBER, 2019 PROVIDED, UM, WITH SIX REASONABLE OR NON REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.
AND THEN LATER DOWN TO SIX REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES, WHICH ARE
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AWARE WE ARE TODAY.UM, AS YOU SEE, THEY'RE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CONDENSED AS FAR AS THE LOCATION AND LAYOUT.
UM, AND FROM HERE, UH, DOD IS, UH, TAKING PUBLIC INPUT AND COORDINATE WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND WORKING TO PRESENT, HEY, PERVERT, ALTERNATIVE, WHICH AGAIN WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST PART OF 2021.
IT'S WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR PROCESS.
CURRENTLY MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, THERE'S THREE MAIN ACTIONS THAT DLTS, UM, WORKING TOWARDS THE FIRST BEING THE INTERSECTION STUDY, UM, AT SQUIRE POLK AND SPANISH WELLS AND THE CROSS-OUT AND PARKWAY AND HOW THAT INTERSECTION AND THOSE INTERSECTIONS WORK TOGETHER TOGETHER.
UM, THERE IS A LOT OF DELAY THAT IS CREATED FROM THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND THEY'RE TEASING OUT JUST AS, UM, THE ABOVE SLIDES, THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
THEY HAVE MANY ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SO THEY CAN COME TO THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AS WELL.
UM, THEY'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATIONS AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND NATURAL IMPACTS AND, UH, COMMUNITY IMPACTS.
SO, UM, VERY SENSITIVE AREA, UM, WITH A LOT OF DELAY, UM, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE MOST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.
UM, SIMILAR IS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AREA NEAR THE HARBOR WHEN THE MIDDLE HARBOR, AS YOU'RE COMING OFF OF THE BRIDGE AND HOW IT RELATES TO JENKINS ROAD AND JENKINS ISLAND.
UM, SO AGAIN, THEY HAVE SEVERAL ITERATIONS, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES AS SELECTED AS WELL AS DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT IDEAS, WHETHER THEY INCORPORATE PARTS OF THE SUPER STREET THAT WERE INTENDED TO IN THE JENKINS ALLEN PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY WAS IDENTIFYING.
UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE STILL IN THE RUNNING AS FAR AS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, BUT AGAIN, DDOT IS TAKING A SPECIFIC LOOK AT THIS AREA AND GOING TO MAKE PRESENTATION ON THAT, UM, AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR DESIGN.
AND THEN THIRDLY, THE THIRD, UH, CONCURRENT ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON SPECIFICALLY NOW IS THE IMPACTS.
UM, SO AGAIN, COMMUNITY IMPACTS AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES, UM, THAT'S LEADING THE CHARGE IS, IS, UM, AS FAR AS IN THE STONY AREA IS, IS TO TRY TO REDUCE AS, AS, UM, POTENTIAL OFFSETS OR DISPLACEMENTS AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY CRITICAL IN THEIR PURSUIT TO FIND THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IN THIS AREA.
UM, THIS ALSO PARLAYS INTO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, AS FAR AS THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
SO I AM CURRENTLY WORKING FROM, UM, FROM COORDINATION WITH COUNTY COUNCIL AND ALSO, UM, TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, THERE'S BEEN DIRECTION AS FAR AS COORDINATE ON RFP FOR AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW, UM, SUCH THAT THESE ITEMS ARE TAKEN INTO FULL ACCOUNT, UM, THAT
UM, I HAVE THE SCOPE AS PROVIDED BY, UM, IT USED WAS COINED, BUT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS.
AND, UM, COUNCILMAN RODMAN PROVIDED INPUT AS WELL AS SENATOR DAVIS MADE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO TAKING ALL OF THOSE, UH, AND TRYING TO PUT THEM TOGETHER IN ONE RFP PACKAGE.
AND ONCE I HAVE THAT, UH, PUT TOGETHER, I'LL BE DISPERSING THAT BACK TO, UM, BOTH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND THE DEITY, UM, FOR REVIEW.
SO I'M WORKING ON THAT HOPE TO HAVE THAT, UM, PROBABLY TOMORROW OUT AND ABOUT FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND FROM THERE, UH, ONCE WE DECIDE ON THE SCOPE, UM, LOOK FOR THE BEST MEANS AND METHOD TO DELIVER THAT TO A CONSULTANT SUCH THAT WE CAN GET THEM ONBOARDED.
AGAIN, THE, THE HIGHLIGHT TO THIS IS TO MAKE SURE NOTHING'S LEFT UNTURNED, BUT ALSO ENSURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THIS AS PUBLIC COMMENT TO DLT.
SO IT DOESN'T, UM, INTERFERE WITH THE NEPA PROCESS AND ANY FUNDING THAT'S ALREADY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
SO THE GOAL IS ACT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN, UH, THIS IS A CONTACT FOR DDOT, UM, CRAIG, WHEN, AS THE PROJECT MANAGER, UM, THEY HAVE THE WEBSITE THERE, UM, AT S C D O T TWO 78 CORRIDOR.COM WHERE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS HOUSED.
UM, WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON, WE BE IN THE COUNTY WORKING ON A GLOBAL WEBSITE THAT MORE FULLY DESCRIBES ALL THREE PROJECTS,
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UM, ON THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM.AND THEN THIS DEITY WEBSITE WILL BE REFERENCED INSIDE OF THE LARGER, UM, WEBSITE.
THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON LADY'S ISLAND.
SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THERE'S NINE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UH, AS PART OF THE STANTEC STUDY, UH, THESE ARE NON PROJECTS.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S PRETTY WELL AWARE OF WHAT THOSE ARE AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON NINE 14, IT WAS AWARDED THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT THAT J BRAG, UM, THAT DOESN'T COME ANY SOONER THAN WHAT WE NEEDED IT.
WE WERE READY TO PUT BRAGG TO WORK, UM, TO HELP AS AN EXTENSION OF STAFF.
UM, WE HAVE TWO RFPS, UH, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THAT ARE OUT FOR SOLICITATION THAT ARE ACTUALLY DUE BACK THIS WEEK.
UM, THAT IS FOR WHAT WE HAVE AT BROKEN DOWN IS THE DESIGN OF THE LARGE CORRIDOR MAIN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS ALONG 21.
AND
UH, SO ALL THAT'S INCLUDED IN ONE RFP.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE, UM, ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY PROJECTS THAT FEED INTO THE MAIN NETWORK.
UM, SO THEY'LL BE ONBOARDED AND HELP US, UH, SELECT, UH, THE DESIGN ENGINEER AS WELL AS MANAGE THAT DESIGN ENGINEER ONCE THEY'RE ONBOARDED, THE FIRST PROJECT THAT'S OUT THAT GATE, AS FAR AS THE WHOLE PROGRAM FOR THE SALES TAX PROGRAM IS SANDS POINT TURN LANE PROJECT BACK TO WAS AWARDED, UM, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON NINE 14, AND THAT WAS AWARDED TO APAC.
UM, THEY WERE ALSO THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID THE CONSTRUCTION WORK ON THE BOUNDARY STREET PROGRAM OR THE BOUNDARY STREET PROJECT.
SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WORK IN THE AREA AND HAVE A GOOD WORK AND HISTORY WOULD BE FOR COUNTY.
UM, WE'RE ESTIMATING A NOTICE TO PROCEED DATE AT THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER WITH A FOUR MONTH, 120 DAY COMPLETION PERIOD.
SO THAT IS THE WORK ONGOING ON LADIES OUT.
AND LASTLY IS THE SIDEWALK AND PATHWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THE OUT OF THE 24 PATHWAYS THAT WERE INCLUDED ON THE REFERENDUM, UH, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION MADE BACK COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY OF THE 14 PRIORITIZE PATHWAYS.
AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL AS YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ONES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FIRST, WE HAVE STARTED THE LUMINARY ENGINEERING ON ALL 14 OF THESE PATHWAYS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO STARTED THIS, UM, JURISDICTIONAL DETERMINATION WITH THE CORE ON THESE PATHWAYS.
UM, THAT BEING A LONG LEAD ITEM, AS FAR AS THE PERMITTING AND ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME THAT DON'T REQUIRE, UH, ADDITIONAL PERMITTING, BUT THIS IS JURISDICTIONAL DETERMINATION WILL HELP US DELINEATE THAT AND IDENTIFY THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE STARTED, UH, THE FULL DESIGN ON THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY PATHWAY.
UM, THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES THAT ARE ON THAT ONE.
AND BASICALLY THAT'S CONNECTING TO TWO, UH, PARTS OF THE PATHWAY THAT PREVIOUSLY WHO WAS LEFT UNCONSTRUCTED.
UM, SO WE FELT IT WAS ADEQUATE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.
UM, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT.
THIS IS THE, THE MAJOR MOVEMENT ON ALL 14 OF THESE PATHWAYS IS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP THE ONLINE PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, FOR THE OTHER 13 PATHWAYS, AS PART OF OUR PROCESS IS TO COME TO THE, UM, PUBLIC FORUM AT LEAST TWO TIMES PER PROJECT.
UM, SO THIS WILL COUNT AS THE FIRST, UM, PUBLIC, UM, MEETING SETTING FOR ALL 13.
IT ACTUALLY PLAYED TO OUR FAVOR.
UM, AS FAR AS HAVING AN ONLINE SETTING VERSUS A IN-PERSON SETTING, WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE AT ONE TIME.
SO ONCE WE PUT THIS OUT, OUR GOAL IS TO, UH, TO HAVE THE WEBSITE, UM, READY TO GO AND LIVE FOR THIS PUBLIC MEETING, UM, STARTING IN OCTOBER, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT OPEN FOR 30 DAYS TO RECEIVE COMMENT.
WE'LL HAVE A PRELIMINARY LAYOUT OF EACH OF THE 14 PATHWAYS AND A PLACE AND MECHANISM FOR, FOR COMMENTS TO BE MADE BY THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL CONTINUE, UH, JUST OUR NORMAL PROJECT PROCESS AS FAR AS MOVING THEM THROUGH PRO UH, FULL DESIGN AND PERMITTING, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC FOR A SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, FINALIZE THE DESIGN AND FINAL ON US, OUR PERMITS.
UM, I GLADLY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE MR. CHAIRMAN STU.
GO AHEAD, STU UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, ONE, UH, YOU WAS MENTIONED ABOUT RF P I
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A, I ACTUALLY HAD, HAD HEARD AND UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO DIRECTLY TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE ALREADY USING.COULD YOU CLARIFY ON WHETHER WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE AN RFP? YES.
UM, SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING ON CALL, UM, CONTRACT ON THAT WE HAVE THREE ENGINEERS LISTED, BUT IT HAS A THRESHOLD OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, FOR DESIGN PURPOSES.
UM, SO UNLESS WE'RE WITHIN THAT THRESHOLD, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT CONTRACT.
SO BOTH OF THESE, UH, ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GRADED IN THAT AMOUNT.
SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
UM, IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, WE WILL HAVE DEFEATED, UH, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT COUNCIL MONDAY GO AND, UH, A WEEK AGO, AND WHAT SENATOR DAVIS MENTIONED, THIS THERE'S CERTAINLY A SUBSET, WHICH WERE IDENTIFIED OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO, AND WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THEM REASONABLY QUICKLY.
AND THEN THERE MAY BE A SET OF FOLLOW ON THINGS THAT CAN COME LATER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SORRY, COUNCILMAN RYMAN, I THOUGHT YOU WERE, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE LADY'S ISLAND, RF RFPS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT TO SEE IF WE CAN UTILIZE EITHER THROUGH OUR OWN CALL OR THROUGH, UH, AN EXISTING CONTRACT, UM, TO SAVE US THAT TIME.
SO, UM, CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME? YUP.
WE'RE ONLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OUT FROM THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
SO IF WE TAKE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO GET STARTED AND WE'D, HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, THEN WE'VE MISSED THAT WINDOW.
SO YEAH, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN TO YOUR POINT AS WELL.
SO, UM, HOW, HOW, HOW DID WE RESOLVE IT? IT SEEMS TO ME THE WAY TO DO IT IS, IS GET GOING WITH THE VENDOR.
YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT COUNCIL APPROVED.
AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD SOME OTHER STUFF IN, IF IT TAKES YOU TO THE PUNCH AND NEEDED RFP, YOU KNOW, SO BE IT.
BUT, UH, I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE POINT IF WE DO THAT, UM, HOLD ON, LET ME, LET ME, LET JARED HAVE A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THAT.
IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR JARED.
SHARON, CAN YOU FLY WITH WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR? YES, SIR.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PRETTY FAR INTO THIS MEETING AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH ACCORDINGLY THE AGENDA, SO I WANT TO MOVE ALONG AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, NO, I, I I'M FINISHED, UH, OTHER THAN I THOUGHT THAT ON JENKINS ISLAND, THAT ASHLEY, AS PART OF THE SIB HAD IDENTIFIED AND EXPLAINED TO THE, ALL THE POWERS THAT BE IN COLUMBIA, THAT WE WERE WITHDRAWING THE SUPER STREETS.
I'M SURPRISED THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT OR DOD IS STILL TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT, BUT LET'S MOVE ON.
UM, I GUESS WE MOVE ON NOW TO, UM, LEFT PARKWAY BY B WHO WAS GOING TO DO THAT? THAT WOULD BE ME AS WELL.
SO THIS WAS JUST TO INFORM EVERYONE OF WHERE WE ARE.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE.
AND I THINK COUNCILMAN FROM, AND YOU'D MENTIONED THAT IN A PREVIOUS, UH, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT BASICALLY THIS PROJECT GOT STARTED IN 2006.
UM, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE WAS PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, UM, ALL THE WAY TO 70% RIVALING PLANS.
AND AT THAT POINT, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, UH, IT WAS POSTPONED AND HELD OFF.
AND THEN LATER IN 2010, IT WAS OPENED UP AGAIN, UM, WITH A REVISION TO BE MADE AS FAR AS THE LEFT SIDE, THE WEST SIDE APPROACH, UM, IN 2013 AND 14 THAT GOT FURTHER DEVELOPED AND THAT APPROACH AGAIN, WAS MADE REDESIGNED UP TO THE 70%.
UM, THAT PROJECT WAS HALTED AT THAT PART AT THAT POINT.
AND NOTHING, NO PROGRESS MADE BEEN MADE SINCE THAT POINT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS.
UM, SO THAT IS, HENCE THE REASON THUS BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL AND SPECIFICALLY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, HIS REQUEST WAS TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY YEAH, THE APPROACH ON THE WESTERN SIDE AS IT COMES FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY UP TO BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICKLY? I, I UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL FIVE B, BUT THE ISSUE THAT'S ON THE TABLE, MAYBE WE'RE KIND OF MISSING IT IS,
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UH, THE WEST, THE INTERSECTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AT BUCK WALTER AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY OR THE WESTERN PORTION OF IT.UM, THE ISSUE THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS THAT THE HOSPITAL, I THINK IS BUFORD MEMORIAL IS GOING TO BUILD ON THAT, UH, SECTION.
SECONDLY, UH, WHEN IT WAS REALIGNED, WHEN THE WHOLE THING WAS REALIGNED, THAT INTERSECTION CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
IN FACT, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PAID US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THE ALIGNMENT.
AND I THINK, UH, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS WEIGHED IN ON THE PAST THAT IT THEY'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE US GET THAT PORTION OF IT DONE.
SO THE IMMEDIATE ISSUE IS DO WE WANT TO, OR NOT WANT TO REDO THAT INTERSECTION, JUST THAT INTERSECTION TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, HOSPITAL EXPANSION.
SO THEY GET ON WITH PLANNING THEIR LIVES AND, UH, THIS, THIS IS LINGERING.
UH, THIS IS IN, UH, IN MY DISTRICT AND, UH, STEW IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UH, HE AND I HAVE TALKED WITH BOTH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HOSPITAL AND I THINK WE NEED TO, AS HE SAID, DISSEMINATE TWO THINGS, FIVE B IS AN ALL ENCOMPASSING, UH, SITUATION.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON IS THAT INTERSECTION, UH, AND THE, THE IDIOSYNCRASIES WITH THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THE REST OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT INTERSECTION IS A KEY AND CRUCIAL PIECE TO BUFORD MEMORIAL HOSPITAL IN THEIR, UH, EXPANSION INTO BLUFFTON.
UM, UH, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO PROCEED, UM, IS SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO MONEY FOR THIS.
SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IT'S A PROPER PROJECT WE NEED BEFORE OUT OF GENERAL REVENUE? OR IS, CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE SOURCE OF FUNDING? WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON, JARED? I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED FUNDING.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, I THINK IT'S $2.5 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT AND THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN IMPACT PHASE.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP, ASHLEY? UM, I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO, UM, TO PROCEED TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE.
WELL, DON'T, WE HAVE TO SEE DESIGN OR IS THE PLAN ALREADY DONE? UM, SCOTT MARSHALL IS ON THE PHONE FROM, UM, FROM TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
SCOTT, DO YOU KNOW IF THE PLAN IS, HAS IT BEEN DESIGNED YET? I DO NOT.
SO KNOW THE EXTENT OF THE DESIGN BECAUSE THE PRODUCT'S BEEN ON HOLD FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, JARED PROBABLY HAS THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS DESIGN-WISE IS SINCE YOU KNOW THAT AS A COUNTY ROADWAY.
SO I WOULD DEFER TO JARED ON EXACTLY WHERE IT IS WITH REGARD TO DESIGN.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL PROJECT AS, AS MR. RODMAN HAS POINTED OUT.
AND AS MR. COVERT HAS ALSO POINTED OUT IT'S THAT SECTION, UH, THAT WILL ALLOW, UH, VEHICLES MEMORIAL HOSPITAL TO, UH, BUILD THEIR 13 ACRE COMPLEX, UH, THAT WILL BRING ABOUT 125 NEW JOBS AND A $44 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO THE COUNTY.
SO A PRETTY PRETTY WISE INVESTMENT.
OVERALL, WE FEEL LIKE IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO INVEST IN THAT LITTLE SECTION OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY, FIVE B THANKS, JARED.
UM, SO NOTHING'S BEEN DONE WITH THE DESIGN PLAN SINCE 2014.
SO AT THAT POINT WE HAD A 70% PLAN COMPLETE.
UM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AS THIS WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DESIGN.
WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THIS COUNCIL, THIS COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD? DO YOU NEED ANY KIND OF AUTHORIZATION OR DO YOU, IS THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE, WILL BE BUSIER THAN YOU THOUGHT IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER? OCTOBER? YEAH.
AND I ALREADY FEEL THAT COMING.
NO, I THINK WE WOULD NEED, AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, UM, A MOTION TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN I A SECOND.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT USING IMPACT FEES AND MOVE FORWARD IN A ORDERLY AND TIMELY MANNER.
I APPRECIATE THAT SECOND BY MR. COVERT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMITTEE MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ADD ONE THING IS, IS THIS WHOLE PROBABLY, WELL, NOT PROBABLY IT WILL.
THIS WILL, UH, PEOPLE WILL START SEEING ACTION AFTER, UH, UH,
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THERE'S A NEW, UH, COUNCILMAN FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD STRONGLY ASK AND SUGGEST THAT THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN, UM, WORK TOGETHER TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, UH, OF EXACTLY THIS IS AND NOT WHAT IT ISN'T.UH, MR. MARSHALL, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND OTHER, OTHER AREAS, UH, THAT THIS IS NOT FIVE B IN ITS ENTIRETY.
IT IS A SPECIFIC, UH, PIECE, UH, MAINLY FOR BEEF AT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE NEXT COUNCIL WOULD TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION, UH, MOVING FROM, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS? OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, PLEASE SPEAK NOW, FINE.
THIS MATTER HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE PRICE TAG WE HAVE SO FAR, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ADMIN COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST A COMMITTEE, BUT APPROVAL, IS THAT CORRECT? WE'LL CHECK THAT OUT.
AND IF IT NEEDS TO VERBAL, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'S A $2.5 MILLION PROJECT, SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL NOW.
IT WILL BE FORWARDED THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN AT THE NEXT EITHER THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR THE ONE AFTER THAT, UM, LET'S SEE.
HOW ARE YOU DOING SIR? REPRESENTATIVE BRADLEY FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE HOUSE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CONVERSION OF EXISTING TWO 78 BRIDGES OVER MACKEY CREEK AND SKULL CREEK INTO A LINEAR PARK.
AND, UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL THESE SPACES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT HERE TOGETHER IN PERSON.
I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE AND SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ALONG WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AT LEAST PROMOTE.
AND, UH, UM, MS. JACOBS, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THE RENDERINGS TO EVERYONE? AND IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU ALL TO SHAKE YOUR HEAD AS IF YOU'VE SEEN THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE SKYWAY, UH, PARK.
SO WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM.
THEY WERE ADDED TO OUR AGENDA AND SENT TO EVERY, EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER AND COUNTY COUNCIL.
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IT'S GOING TO END UP LOOKING LIKE AS MUCH AS IT IS.
UM, WE, WE TRIED TO PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF, OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE COUNTY.
AND WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS CONCEPT.
THE IDEA IS THAT THE, UH, TWO EIGHT QUARTER PROJECT HAD, UH, SET ASIDE MONEY TO TEAR DOWN THE BRIDGES.
AND MY THOUGHT WAS, LET'S SAVE THE MONEY FROM TEARING THEM DOWN AND TURN THEM INTO A LINEAR PARK.
AND IT DOESN'T, I CAN RATTLE ON FOR AN HOUR.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORN OUT AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT MY THOUGHT WAS THAT IF WE COULD TURN THIS INTO A PARTICULARLY HUMAN EXPERIENCE, IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD TO HAVE THIS FACILITY, UH, STILL AVAILABLE TO US.
AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE'S ONLY A FEW PLACES WHERE THEY'VE DONE THIS TO, I THINK IN ST.
SIMONS, UH, BOSTON AND IN DALLAS AND IN NEW YORK WHERE THEY'VE DONE THINGS LIKE THIS AND WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOT OF ACTIVITY UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO MAKE HAPPEN.
SARAH, WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND BRING THOSE, UM, RENDERINGS UP FOR US TO LOOK AT WHILE WE'RE FINISHING THIS CONVERSATION AND, AND WELL, UM, REPRESENTATIVE BRADLEY IS WRAP, WRAPPING UP HIS PART OF IT AND MOVING ON TO SOME QUESTIONS, I HOPE AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.
UH, FOLKS, IF YOU THINK OF THE BRIDGE SYSTEM HAS FOUR SECTIONS.
THE FIRST BEING FROM MOSS CREEK TO JENKINS, UH, TO, TO PAINT THE ISLAND.
AND THEN NUMBER THREE, NUMBER TWO WOULD BE FROM PITNEY ISLAND TO JENKINS
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ISLAND.NUMBER THREE WOULD BE FROM, UH, JENKINS ISLAND TO PINCKNEY ISLAND.
AND THEN FROM PINCKNEY ISLAND BACK TO MOSS CREEK WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR.
I THINK THAT, UH, SARAH, LET'S GO BACK ONE, ONE MORE PLACE.
FOLKS IS THE, IT IS A STAB AT WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE RETAIN BOTH SPANS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR, WHICH IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE IS COMING ON TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND, OR COMING ON TO JENKINS ISLAND.
AND THEN THE PIECE ON THE RIGHT IS GOING FROM JENKINS ISLAND TO PINCKNEY ISLAND.
AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAD ENVISAGED FOR THIS LIGHT LANDSCAPING TO AVOID ADDING WEIGHT TO THE BRIDGE.
UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UM, CIVIL ENGINEER.
WE'VE HAD A CIVIL ENGINEER TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND THEY THINK THAT THE LOAD OF THE BRIDGE COULD HANDLE THIS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.
NOW THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A FULL STUDY FOLKS.
SO, UM, WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ANY OF THAT PROCESS YET WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR APPETITE FOR THIS WAS AN INTEREST IN IT IS BEFORE WE, UH, SPEND TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY LOOKING AT IT.
BUT LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THE FEW NUMBERS THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, THE, WE HAD A BRIDGE DEMOLITION COMPANY IN MICHIGAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND THEY SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT $22 MILLION TO TEAR THIS THING DOWN.
SO IF WE COULD SAVE SOME PORTION OF THAT, UM, WE'D BE IN, WE'D BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
WE THINK THAT WE CAN CONSTRUCT THIS BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF AND $5 MILLION.
AND WE THINK THAT WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A $500,000 ANNUAL EXPENDITURE TO MAINTAIN IT.
NOW, MY VISION WAS, IF WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE DON'T SPEND TEARING THE BRIDGE DOWN AND PUT IT IN SOME SORT OF MAINTENANCE TRUST FUND, WE COULD PROBABLY EARN ENOUGH TO THE ANNUAL COST OF MAINTENANCE, WHICH I'D LIKE, LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE PROCESS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL AND WOULD TAKE A LONGTERM BURDEN OFF THE COUNTY IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, MS. CHAIR, I, AGAIN, I COULD RATTLE ON FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, W ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE? UH, I HAVE ONE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK IN THE RENDERINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE AN OVERLAY OF THE, OF THE VARIOUS, UM, PROPOSALS, THE LIKELY, UM, SOLUTIONS TO OUR PROBLEM THAT, UM, DOD HAS RECOGNIZED SO FAR, UM, LIKELY SCENARIO ONE THROUGH SIX, A WHATEVER IT IS WE'VE GOT THESE DAYS AND KIND OF SHOW WHERE THEY ARE IN RELATION TO THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE, UH, REALLY REQUIRE THAT THE BRIDGES BE DECONSTRUCTED AND THERE'LL BE BASICALLY THE NEW BRIDGES WOULD BE RIGHTED RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF WHERE THESE ARE.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE A REAL PROBLEM FOR THIS SOLUTION.
UM, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, UH, JEFF, THIS IS REALLY INTRIGUING TO ME, AND I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF, UM, REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TO HAVE ALL THAT CONCRETE AND THOSE PILINGS ENDED UP IN A LANDFILL SOMEWHERE OR AT THE BOTTOM OF SCOPE CREEK REALLY, REALLY BOTHERS ME.
AND SO I LIKE THIS AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION, AND I WANT TO EXPLORE IT ME PERSONALLY.
HOW DO THE REST OF YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT? YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE BRADLEY.
I REALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS QUITE A CONCEPT.
I'M GOING TO LAY THEM ALL OUT THERE AND YOU CAN TAKE THEM AS, AS, AS YOU WANT.
UH, FIRST THING IS, UH, I HAVE A CONCERN THAT, UH, IS, IS THERE, OR WOULD THERE BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE BRIAN WAS ALLUDING TO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS INVOLVED AND IT WAS, IT WAS FOR A PARTICULAR, UH, UH, THING TO BE DONE IN PART OF THAT THING TO BE DONE WAS DECONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION BY DOING THIS, WOULD THAT JEOPARDIZE THOSE FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS SINCE WE'RE CHANGING THE SCOPE OF WORK? UH, THE SECOND THING, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ANALYSES, YOU KNOW, WERE IN MY OPINION, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE REMOVAL
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OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONCRETE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, MAKING UP OF THESE BRIDGES, IT DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IF THAT CONCRETE IS LEFT ALONG WITH THE NEW CONCRETE, IF YOU, IF YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, IS THERE A WHOLE NOTHER ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? UM, MY THIRD THING IS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS.UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW FAR IT GOES.
UH, SO BOTH SIDES OR ONE SIDE OR WHATEVER.
UM, PARKING I THINK IS, UH, AN ACCESS I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD, WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.
AND THEN MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. BRADLEY, MR. CHAIRMAN, DID WE, DID WE PAY FOR THIS STUDY OR DID THE STATE NO.
WOULDN'T PARTNERS BASICALLY PRO BONO.
I WAS JUST, I WAS THOUGHT I MISSED SOMETHING, BUT THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS ARE WHAT COME UP TO MIND.
MR. CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE, PLEASE DO.
WELL, THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS, JEOPARDIZING THE FUNDING.
WE ARE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF, UH, STRATEGIC, UH, LEGISLATION TO MAKE, MAKE THIS AVAILABLE, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
THE DELEGATION HAS, UH, CONTINUED TO, UH, AGE AND SENIORITY, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL OFF WHATEVER'S NECESSARY TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK YOUR, YOUR CONCEPT IS ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE, BUT I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY WORK AROUNDS FOR THAT.
W WE, WE THINK WE COULD PROBABLY BUILD, UM, UH, ENOUGH OF A COALITION TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.
UH, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED EVEN FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
UH, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
UM, YES, I THINK THAT THE LARGEST, LONGEST TERM RISK, BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL SEVEN YEARS OUT.
UM, SO WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME TO WORK ON THIS.
AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY, UM, UH, WE HAVE TO PETITION THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE WITH THIS CONCEPT.
AND I, I, I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO TAKE ON THAT TASK AND SHOULDER THAT WORK, MIKE, IF, IF THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN THIS, BECAUSE AS I WAS TOLD THAT THE COUNTY HAD TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT BEFORE THE TOWN, I MEAN, BEFORE THE DLT COULD ADDRESS THE SITUATION, OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG THING, WHICH WHICHEVER COMES FIRST, BUT WE AS A COUNTY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROJECT HAPPEN.
AND IF THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT.
BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DOD IS GONNA ALLOW ME TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, AND AS FAR AS PARKING IS CONCERNED, THERE'S A COUPLE OF IDEAS THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND.
AT THIS POINT, THERE IS PROPERTY AVAILABLE, UH, VACANT PROPERTY AVAILABLE ON OPPOSITE WINDMILL, HARBORS ENTRANCE ON JENKINS ISLAND THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ACTUALLY UNUSED LAND THERE.
AND THEN MIKE W MY CIVIL ENGINEER SUGGESTED THAT IF WE RETAIN THE, UM, UM, PIECE THAT IS IN THE CAUSEWAY, IN THE MARSH, THAT'S GOING FROM EAST TO WEST.
UM, WHAT I REFERRED TO IS SECTION NUMBER FOUR, YOU COULD DO, UH, ANGLED PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THAT ROAD FOR ALMOST A MILE, UH, IF YOU, IF WE HAD TO, BUT I THERE'S, SOME, WE ARE IN NEED OF PARKING ON THE BLUFFTON SIDE.
THAT WAS ONE SOLUTION THAT WAS PROFFERED TO ME SO FAR.
UH, THAT, AND AGAIN, THE IDEA, I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A DISTANCE TO GET TO THE PART WHERE YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN THE RENDERING, BUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS A TOTAL OF ABOUT 6,400 LINEAR FEET OF POTENTIAL PARK.
SO FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS ALL ABOUT.
THAT'S PART OF THE EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN GET TO WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE BRADLEY, MR. CHAIRMAN? WOULD THIS NOT BE A SUBJECT OF THE INDEPENDENT? NO, I THINK THIS IS REALLY A SEPARATE MATTER.
UM, AND THAT, THAT QUITE FRANKLY IS SO, UM, IT'S IN SUCH INFANCY AT THIS POINT THAT THAT REALLY WHAT
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WE SHOULD, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS A MOTION FROM SOMEONE ON THE COMMITTEE AND A VOTE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, TO ASK THAT THIS, UM, THIS POTENTIAL, UH, PARK BE INVESTIGATED, THERE ARE THE POTENTIAL FOR A PARK BEING INVESTIGATED AND REPORT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND IN AN APPROPRIATE TIME, UM, TO LAY OUT A TIMELINE AND POTENTIAL BUDGETING AND, UM, THE OWNERSHIP OF, UM, OF THE PARK AND, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS FOR SOME ENGINEERING PROBLEMS AND CONCEPTS TO SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL, UM, BRIDGE PROJECT IS THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD HANDLE IT, JEFF, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE WHAT YOU'D LOOK FOR? UH, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT START.MR. CHAIR, IF YOU GUYS HAD EXPRESSED THAT INTEREST IN IT, I COULD, I COULD TAKE THE HANDLE ON THAT AND, AND MOVE THE BALL FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME SAY THIS TODAY, THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS I'D HAVE TO SAY NO, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I REALLY LIKE THIS CONCEPT.
I REALLY WANT TO INVESTIGATE IT A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE I SEE IT AS A SOLUTION TO SOME POTENTIAL PROBLEMS AND MAYBE BRINGING SOME MORE PROBLEMS ON, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF, UM, PART OF GOVERNING.
I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE OTHER THING BEFORE.
I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS ARE FACED WITH, WITH THIS DECISION.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S NOT, NOT EVEN TODAY, BUT THAT MAYBE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE FACED WITH, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK IN TERMS OF HOW LONG THIS MIGHT LAST, RIGHT.
IT'S COULD ACTUALLY BE MULTI-GENERATIONAL VALUE TO THE PEOPLE OF BUFORD COUNTY.
AND THAT, THAT REALLY IS, UM, A UNIQUE, UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE PRESENT TO REALLY BRING THIS, BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS FORWARD.
UH, THIS COULD GO ON FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
UH, YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, UH, THE BRIDGE THAT'S IN FLORENCE, ITALY RIGHT NOW, THAT'S BEEN IN USE FOR FOUR OR 500 YEARS.
SO, NO, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.
JEFF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE VERY KEEN ON, UM, AND, UM, AT THE, AT LEAST THE COUNTY LEVEL, AND I'M SURE ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES ARE, ARE, UH, AGREE WITH US, OUR NATURAL SURROUNDINGS, THE VIEWS THAT WE HAVE ARE OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO US.
WE LOSE PART OF OURSELVES IF WE LOSE THOSE VIEWS AND TO OPEN UP AN ACCESS TO SOMETHING LIKE THE VIEW OF SKULK OR MACKEY'S CREEK IS, UH, I I'M EXCITED BY IT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE GOOSEBUMPS RIGHT NOW, JEFF.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD.
BUT LET ME MAKE A COMMENT FIRST.
UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR MOTION OUGHT TO BE ON THE ORDER THAT WE ENCOURAGE DDOT TO EVALUATE THIS AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THERE MAY BE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, UH, IMPACTS AND THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING THAT.
SO IF THERE ARE SOME MINOR IMPACTS, WE'RE BETTER OFF TO GET IT IN NOW, AS OPPOSED TO COME BACK LATER ON SECONDARY PART OF IT, YOU COULD MAKE THAT CERTAINLY MAKE THAT PART.
SO IT WOULD BE, UM, ENCOURAGE THE OT TO EVALUATE THIS AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND ENCOURAGE STAFF TO INVESTIGATE THIS AS A POTENTIAL PARK, UM, UTILIZING THE EXISTING SPANS OVER MACKEY'S CREEK AND SCOPE CREEK.
JUST EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, MR. JEREMY, YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MCCOWEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE'RE GOING TO MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, UH, FOR GETTING THIS INTO THE MIX WITH THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, IT IS A SIZEABLE PORTION OF THE SAVINGS CAN COME FROM REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE BRIDGES, BECAUSE WE'LL TAKE THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE OFF EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING STU ALL UP.
YOU KNOW, I THINK JEFF'S LOOKING AT, I DON'T KNOW, 20, $30 MILLION OF POTENTIAL SAVINGS.
UM, AND TH THE REAL ISSUE IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE AS A COUNTY PREPARED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE OWNERSHIP AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I THINK JEFF'S, UH, DIFF BRADLEY'S ABSOLUTELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THIS.
UM, THE SEEING NONE, I, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD ON THIS MOTION? OKAY.
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THEREFORE THE MOTION IS APPROVED AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS WITHIN OUR PEACE RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE COULD GO FORWARD.IF STAFF BELIEVES THAT, UM, COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVAL IS NECESSARY, THEN PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD AT THE NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING.
CAN I ASK ONE QUICK, ONE FAVOR WHEN YOU GUYS TYPE OUT WHATEVER THE MOTION IS, AND IT BECOMES FORMAL.
CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO FORWARD THAT A COPY OF THAT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
SARAH, IF YOU'LL DO THAT AND SEND IT TO ME FOR SIGNATURE, IF YOU THINK NECESSARY OR HAVE ASHLEY SIGN IT AS A, AS OUR, UM, DEPUTY, WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING, JEFF.
YOU ARE VERY MUCH TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY.
IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING CENTER UPDATE, INCLUDING THE DECALS AND THE, UM, POTENTIAL ISSUES REGARDING HILTON, HEAD FUNDING AND CLOSING OF THE PRICHARD MILL AND GATE, UM, CENTERS.
WHAT ELSE WE GOT? UH, WHO IS THAT? IS THAT GOING TO BE CINDY? I THINK I'M GOING TO START.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES AND REMINDERS OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
UM, UM, WE'RE IN A TRANSITION PERIOD NOW, UH, OCTOBER 1ST IS GOING TO BRING SOME OF OUR FIRST WAVE OF CHANGES.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, OUR OPERATING HOURS FOR THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS ARE GOING TO GO FROM 7:30 AM TO 6:00 PM INSTEAD OF SEVEN.
AND THE DATES OF OPERATION FOR SOME OF THE CENTERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
SO IN YOUR PACKET AND ON THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING WEBSITE, WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT SUMMARIZING THOSE CHANGES.
UM, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE WITH EVERYTHING JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, ONE, UH, TO REMIND YOU THAT THE DECALS THEMSELVES ARE FREE OF CHARGE.
UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A MEETING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AGAIN TOMORROW, UH, TO GET THOSE INITIAL PRESS RELEASES OUT ABOUT THE TIME CHANGES AND THE DAYS OF OPERATION CHANGES.
UM, MY GUESS IS THEY'LL PROBABLY USE THIS SLIDE THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW, UM, MAYBE ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, FACEBOOK PAGE, UM, AND WE'VE ALSO SCHEDULED SOME INTERVIEWS WITH W H I THAT WILL AIR.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE DOING SOMETHING ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL AS WELL.
UM, OUR NEW BUSINESS MANAGER IS SET UP AND READY TO GO WITH REGISTRATIONS.
UH, WE'VE DEVELOPED THE FINAL POSTCARDS THAT WE DISCUSSED TO GATHER THE INFORMATION.
UH, WE'VE GOT A TIPS BROCHURE THAT'S FINALIZED THE BARCODE ITSELF.
THE DECAL IS GOING TO BE A THREE BY THREE.
UM, IT WILL HAVE A NUMBERING SYSTEM THERE, AND IT'S, WE'RE GETTING THE FINAL QUOTES IN PROCUREMENT SET UP FOR THOSE ITEMS. UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS EACH WEEK NOW, INSTEAD OF
THEY'RE, UH, WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR AUXILIARY EQUIPMENT READY.
UH, WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED FOR JUST HANDHELD CAMERAS TO HELP WITH OUR ATTENDANCE AT THE BIGGER CENTERS.
UM, ANGEL WILL BE, UH, ASSIGNING THESE NUMBERS THROUGH THE SHAREPOINT INFORMATION.
SO EACH ONE OF THE DECAL NUMBERS, WHETHER YOU GET A HARD DECAL OR YOU GET AN ELECTRONIC DECAL WILL BE TIED TO YOUR AI AND PROPERTY NUMBER, UH, AS A REMINDER, WE ARE GOING TO BE CLOSING THE CENTERS AT GAIT AND PRITCHARD NEVILLE, DECEMBER 31ST.
UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU UTILIZE THOSE TWO CENTERS, YOU MAY USE THOSE TWO CENTERS TO REGISTER FOR THE DECALS FOR WHEN YOU'LL BE GOING AND USING A DIFFERENT CENTER.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN AUGUST, WE POSTED THE SIGNS THAT ALL OF THE CENTERS FOR THEIR PARTICULAR OPERATING DAYS AND THE NEW TIMES THAT'LL BE COMING UP OCTOBER 1ST.
UM, THE SLIDE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
I THINK I MENTIONED THAT, UH, BUT THE OLD INFORMATION IS STILL ON THE WEBSITE NOW FOR ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY USING THOSE CENTERS AND WE'LL HAVE A TRANSITION AT THE END OF THE MONTH TO UPDATE THE OLD DATA AND GO FOR THIS NEW, UM, INFORMATION.
UM, EACH OF THE 11 CENTERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE POSTCARDS AVAILABLE.
THERE'LL BE A COLLECTION BOX AT THOSE CENTERS, AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE STAFF GO OUT
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TO THE CENTERS SO THAT WE CAN ASSIST PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY IN DOING THE REGISTRATIONS.UH, LET'S SEE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ATTENDING OR DOING OUR ATTENDANT TRAINING.
AND THE INITIAL TESTING ARE GOING TO BE DONE IN LIKE IN NOVEMBER AND AS QUESTIONS SURFACE.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE MAKING UP A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO POST.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE HOURS, THE SCHEDULES OR THE DECALS, UM, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE.
NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I, I TYPED IT OUT TO EVERYONE TO GO AHEAD.
UM, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND SINCE, SINCE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM AND QUESTIONS FROM MUNICIPAL RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THE DROP-OFF CENTERS, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO, YES, MA'AM.
NOW, IF THEY ARE A PROPERTY OWNER IN BUFORD COUNTY, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO USE THOSE CENTERS THAT MAY COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES LATER, BUT FOR NOW THEY CAN REGISTER.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
UM, WHEN YOU INDICATE THAT IF THEY ARE PROPERTY OWNERS IN BUFORD COUNTY, THEY CAN USE THESE CENTERS, UM, DO BUSINESS PROPERTY OWNERS QUALIFY TO USE THESE CENTERS.
IF, IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS OWNER, NO, YOU ARE NOT PART OF OUR RESIDENTIAL SERVICE.
SO THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS ARE FOR, FOR, UH, RESIDENTS.
SO, UM, EVERYONE, UH, UH, WELL I THINK ALL THE RESIDENTS, UH, ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, WHEREVER THESE, UM, THREATENED CLOSURES ARE PENDING ON HIGH ALERT AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF UNANSWERED, UM, WILL ALL OF THE, UM, CONVENIENCE CENTERS HAVE A PROHIBITION AGAINST CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS AND LANDSCAPE YARD WASTE.
AND WILL ANY OF THEM HAVE THAT NOTICE OR NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT MR. MCKELLEN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL.
AND YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE WOULD FUND THE HILTON HEAD SITES, RIGHT? YES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THERE.
OF COURSE, IF WE ELIMINATE, UM, THE ABILITY TO DROP OFF THESE ITEMS, UM, THERE'S A, UH, LICENSING PENDING FOR ARBOR NATURE TO PUT IN A TRANSFER STATION RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE HILTON RED CONVENIENCE CENTER.
AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT FOR FREE.
THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE DROPS.
SO I EXPECT THAT THEY'LL BE A LOT OF RESISTANCE TO ANY ACTION WE MAY TAKE TO CANCEL THOSE, UM, UM, COMPANIES FROM MAKING THOSE DROPS.
BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE REALLY GOING TO REDUCE THE COSTS THERE, UH, ALONG WITH THE DECAL SYSTEM.
SO, UH, WE ARE REACHING A CRITICAL MASS HERE IN PARTICULAR ON HILTON HEAD BECAUSE IT APPEARS THE FUNDING HAS STOPPED, UH, AS OF DECEMBER 31ST.
SO IF THE CENTER CLOSES COMPLETELY, THEN THERE WILL BE NOWHERE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GO.
AND NOWHERE FOR THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING, UH, TO GO, UH, ASSUMING OUR NATURE MAY NOT OPEN THAT QUICKLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THEN GO OUT TO HICKORY HILL TO MAKE THOSE DROPS.
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF CONFUSION AND AN AWFUL LOT OF UNSETTLED ISSUES HERE THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE.
AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHEN WE WILL BE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
OR IN FACT, THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY BECAUSE YOU DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION VERY QUICKLY.
UH, CINDY, THANK YOU SO MUCH OUT HERE IN PRICHARD ADVIL.
UH, THE TEMPERATURE STARTED TO COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WARMING UP TO IT.
I'M FIELDING CALLS FROM MY DISTRICT AS WELL AS CHAIRMAN PAST LIMITS.
UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE MAILED ONE DECAL AND THEN PHYSICALLY, THEN THEY'LL HAVE A DECAL ON LIKE A SMARTPHONE.
OR THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IF YOU WANT ONE OF THESE MULTIPLES.
THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT THING.
I'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY, WELL, HARRY TAKES THE TRASH ON MONDAY AND I TAKE IT ON THURSDAY THAT WHEN WE DRIVE TO DIFFERENT VEHICLES, CAN THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE, A LITTLE DECAL, THERE'LL BE ONE DAY COW PER PROPERTY.
THEY CAN HAVE MULTIPLE ELECTRONIC DECALS.
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ALL RIGHT.A LOT OF FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT AND CHAIRMAN PASSMAN, UM, ARE VERY EXPERIENCED IN THEIR AGE BRACKET AND THEY DON'T HAVE SMARTPHONES, UM, THAT USE A FLIP PHONE.
IF THEY HAVE ONE, ARE WE MAKING ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION TO THAT EXPERIENCED CITIZEN? NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THAT IF THAT BECOMES A BIG CONCERN.
UH, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, USE OF SMARTPHONES, WILL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DECALS ON THEIR SMART PHONES HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER THOSE TO OTHER SMART PHONES.
THEY'RE ALL THOSE STILL TIED TO THAT ONE AIN NUMBER AT THE PROPERTY LOCATION.
SO THE, UH, OTHER RESTRICTIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF TIMES AN AIN CAN ENTER THE PROPERTY, NOT AT THIS TIME.
SO THEY WERE TO GIVE OUT THOSE THINGS TO FIVE OTHER PEOPLE.
UM, EVERYBODY COULD COME IN WITH THAT AIN DECAL, IF THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY CAN ENTER, IS THAT RIGHT? INITIALLY WE COULD STILL TRACK THAT THAT MANY TRIPS WAS COMING TO THAT ONE PROPERTY LOCATION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN AUGUST OR EARLIER, LIMITING PEOPLE'S VISITS AND THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.
IF I COULD, I COULD TELL YOU LARRY, THAT ANYBODY WHO'S COMING TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER FIVE TIMES IN ONE WEEK IS GOING TO GET A, NOR A KNOCK ON THE DOOR BY, UH, OUR TRIAL HORN, UH, AND HIS DEPUTY, THEY WEAR A BADGE THESE DAYS AND IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED AND IF APPROPRIATE RESPONSES, AREN'T GIVEN INAPPROPRIATE RULES, AREN'T FOLLOWED.
AND IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE PASSING THEM OUT TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T DESERVE IT OR TO COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN ANY WAY.
WE'LL FIND AN APPROPRIATE RESOLUTION FOR THAT.
AND ASHLEY, UH, ASHLEY STATED THAT THE REASON THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS.
AND SO I'LL RENEW MY QUESTION IN PARTICULAR, SINCE THE FUNDING IS ENDING HERE, DECEMBER 31ST, WHEN WILL WE BE ADDRESSING THE PARTICULAR ISSUES RELATED TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, UM, ON HILTON HEAD, SINCE IT WILL NOT BE OPEN AFTER DECEMBER 31ST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAGE THAT'S ON YOUR SCREEN, I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU SEE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR GOING TO HILTON HEAD AND SENDING YOU ON TO WALK EVERYONE THROUGH THAT.
YES, THE FIRST OPTION IS OBVIOUSLY TO CLOSE THE HILTON HEAD CENTER AND LET ANY RESIDENT ON THE ISLAND THAT DOES NOT ALREADY HAVE A CURBSIDE CARRIER CHOOSE THEIR OWN.
WE HAVE ABOUT, UH, 10 PERMITTED WASTE HAULERS IN BUFORD COUNTY.
FOUR OF THOSE ARE VERY ON THE ISLAND.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT $16 A MONTH, UH, FOR YOU TO HAVE CURBSIDE SERVICE AT YOUR RESIDENCE.
SO IF WE CLOSE THE CENTER, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE YOUR OWN CARRIER, UM, AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY THE CHEAPEST OPTION FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT DON'T ALREADY HAVE SERVICE.
THE SECOND OPTION IS TO WORK WITH HILTON HEAD, WE'D CLOSE THE CENTER, BUT WE'D ASSIST THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD WITH AN RFP SO THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE CURBSIDE PROBABLY WITH ONE PREFERRED HAULER.
UH, THEY COULD CHOOSE MORE IF THEY WANTED AND WE WOULD MANAGE THAT SYSTEM FOR THEM.
THE PROBLEM COMES IS THAT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME.
I THINK BY THE TIME WE COULD PUT OUT AN RFP, UH, CHOOSE A HAULER.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT COULD BE IN PLACE BEFORE JULY 1ST.
AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS OBVIOUSLY TO LEAVE THE CENTER OPEN FOR JUST HOUSEHOLD TRASH AND RECYCLING LIMIT THE VISITS TO TWO WEEK AND TAKE OUT ALL CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION WASTE THAT COMES INTO THE CENTER.
THE YARD YARD WASTE WOULD HAVE TO BE, IT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL YARD WASTE.
YEAH, I THINK RATHER THAN A TRUNK FULL OF LEAVES, WHICH I KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DOING THAT ANYWAY.
UM, I LIKED NUMBER THREE, UM, UH, THE CURBSIDE SERVICE, UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE IT AT $16 SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT IT IS AN EXPENSE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, PRESENTLY.
AND THE REAL ISSUE BECOMES CURBSIDE SERVICE IS NOT PERMITTED IN ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON HILTON HEAD BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE YOUR CONTAINERS OUT OF YOUR SERVICE YARD FOR PICKUP.
SO, UH, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THAT? WELL, WHEN WE PUT THE RFP OUT ORIGINALLY FOR UNINCORPORATED COUNTY,
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THE PEOPLE THAT BID ON THAT RFP BASICALLY HAD A SURCHARGE FOR BACKDOOR SERVICE.HOW MUCH WOULD THAT ADD TO IT? DO YOU KNOW CINDY? UM, IT WAS A COUPLE OF DOLLARS, BUT NO, THOSE FIGURES PROBABLY ARE NOT STILL CORRECT.
IT'S USUALLY ABOUT $24 A MONTH FOR A SERVICE YARD PICK UP THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE USED.
UM, WELL, I LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION ON OPTIONS.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY MOVE THIS ALONG AND COME TO SOME CONCLUSION ABOUT ACCESS A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOU CAN ACCESS AND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH, UH, FUNDING THIS, UM, UM, AS OF JANUARY 1ST, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS IN A STATE OF EXTREMELY HIGH ALERT AND GROWING EXTREMELY RESENTFUL BY THE DAY.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME, UH, CLEAR ON THIS PRETTY QUICK, UH, TO STOP THIS RISING TIDE OF ANTAGONISM.
I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THE GOLDSMITH REPORT, UH, WHAT WE WOULD ORIGINALLY HAVE ASKED FOR WOULD BE TO LIMIT NOT JUST HILTON HEADS, BUT ALL THE CENTERS TO TWO TIMES A WEEK.
AND, AND, AND ALSO TAKE OUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION STRING FROM ALL OF THE CENTERS.
THAT WOULD SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY.
AND I THINK TWO TIMES A WEEK, UNLESS SOMEONE HAS STARTED A SMALL ENTREPRENEURIAL OPERATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A LITTLE PICKUP TRUCK, UH, THOSE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE GOING THERE MORE THAN THAT, I SUPPOSE ON OCCASION, SOMEONE MAY HAVE TO GO THREE TIMES IF THEY WERE DOING SOME SPRING CLEANING OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM JUST SO LONG AS IT'S, UM, IF IT'S CLEAR, UH, BUT THE FACILITY HAS TO BE AVAILABLE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE HAVE ALL THESE RULES AND ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES, IF THE ONE YEAR CLOSES JANUARY 1ST.
SO I EXPECT WE'LL JUST MOVE THIS ALONG.
AND THAT WILL COME TO A CONCLUSION ON THIS SOMETIMES BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
SO WE CAN TELL EVERYONE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANT TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND OPTION NUMBER THREE, LEAVING THE CENTER OPEN, AND THEN LIMITING THE VISITS AND ELIMINATING C AND D.
UM, I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW EMAILS AND CALLS PROBABLY ALMOST 200 OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM HILTON HEAD RESIDENTS.
AND ALL THE MOST PEOPLE DO HAVE THE MAJORITY, I THINK 65% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF RESIDENTS ON HILTON HEAD DO HAVE MR. MCKELLEN'S POINT.
THERE ARE MANY THAT DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION AND THERE WOULD BE A SURCHARGE.
ALSO MANY OF THE PEOPLE I TALK TO, EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE CURBSIDE, THEY STILL USE THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND THEY STILL WANT THAT OPTION.
UM, AND ALSO THIS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, UM, HAVING A MANDATORY CURBSIDE.
SO I STRONGLY RECOMMEND LEAVING THE CENTER OPEN AND THEN LIMITING, UM, THE VISITS AND SANDY, RIGHT.
THE FIRST IS I'M PARTICULARLY WORRIED ABOUT THOSE HILTON HEAD RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT WITHIN TOWN LIMITS, WHO WERE GUARDING, UM, OPTIONS, NUMBER ONE, AND TWO REALLY WOULDN'T BE EFFECTED BY THAT.
THEY'RE A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE FROM THE NEAREST CONVENIENCE CENTER.
AND SO, UM, I THINK ONE IN TWO ARE PROBABLY UNWORKABLE OPTIONS FOR THOSE CITIZENS WHO ARE HILTON HEAD RESIDENTS, BUT NOT WITHIN THE TOWN LIMIT.
UM, MY QUESTION REGARDING NUMBER THREE IS WHAT ABOUT THE FUNDS? UH, W YOU KNOW, CAN WE AFFORD THAT? IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN BUDGET FOR? UM, WHAT'D HE SAY? YEAH.
SO IF WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO AFFORD, KEEP THE SITE OPEN.
UM, WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHT? YEAH, I'M IN ABSOLUTE AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD DO NUMBER THREE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
WE CAN'T TREAT ONE SECTION OF THE COUNTY IS DIFFERENT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
I THINK I MIGHT DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THE OTHER PLACES, MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY, THE MUNICIPALS, UM, SERVICES ARE PRETTY MUCH TAKING CARE OF THE WASTE.
IN OTHER WORDS, I LIVE IN THE CITY BEFORE IT, I DON'T GO TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, BUT MAYBE ONCE A YEAR, WHEN THE YARD WASTE IS JUST TOO SIGNIFICANT TO EVEN ASK FOR HELP DOING IT, OR I'VE GOT TOO MUCH STUFF GOING ON.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HILTON HEAD WHO DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN HOLLERS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH, THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY MR. CHAIRMAN, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE LIKE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OR THE CITY OF BUFORD OR WHATEVER.
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WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COMES TO THE MUNICIPALITY VERSUS UNINCORPORATED AREAS.IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE, UH, CONVENIENCE CENTER.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE HERE.
THIS IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN.
THERE IS NO OTHER CENTER UNLESS YOU DRIVE OUT TO A, OVER THE BRIDGE, UH, ON YOUR WAY TO NEW JERSEY.
I MEAN, AND NOBODY'S DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, CHRIS HERBERT, SEAN, YOU'RE NEXT.
NUMBER ONE, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AS FAR AS PROCURE ON THE EXTRA SPACE THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE, UM, THE DECAL SYSTEM AND THE GATE, THAT'S FINE.
COOKING WITH MR. RALEIGH AND THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT IS PRECLUDING US FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH NUMBER THREE? IT SEEMS TO DO, IT'S GOING TO PREVENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HEARTBURN.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE MOST EVERYBODY IS LEANING THAT WAY.
I, WHY NOT? WHY CAN'T WE JUST MOVE THAT FORWARD? WE CAN.
CHRIS THAT'S EMOTION, ABSOLUTELY REMOVE OPTION NUMBER THREE FORWARD.
UM, I'LL HAPPILY SECOND THAT, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. MCKELLEN, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS SOLUTION? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
CINDY WAS STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES FOR THE DECAL SYSTEM ACROSS THE COUNTY OR JUST ON HILTON HEAD? NO, THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE A LIMIT OF TWO VISITS PER WEEK ACROSS THE COUNTY AND TO TAKE OUT C AND D ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO IT'S COUNTY WIDE? YES, MA'AM.
IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? UH, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
HOLD ON, BRIAN, HOLD ON A SECOND.
I WANT TO SHARE THIS IN SOMEBODY REFERENCING EARLIER ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UH, WE SHOULD BE, UM, TREATING ALL THE CITIZENS ACROSS THE COUNTY, UH, THE SAME.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY CENTER OPEN, THEN THE FOLKS, THE FOLKS IN CULVERTS DISTRICT AND THE FOLKS AT THE GATE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, CONVENIENCE, THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED.
I THINK THOSE FOLKS WERE LEAVING.
HILTON HEADS WERE CLOSING THEIRS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GROW, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT POINT, MR. DAWSON, AND I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE NORTH OF THE BROAD, BUT OVER HERE, UM, THAT SUBJECT'S COME UP AND IT'S STRICTLY, THE, THE MESSAGE IS THE SAME THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE NOTHING FURTHER FROM HAPPENING THEN THE, THEN PRICHARD, WE'LL GIVE IT ROAD STAYING OPEN, BUT IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DECAL SYSTEM AND THE FACILITY DOESN'T EVEN REMOTELY, UH, MEET THE
SO IT'S, I MEAN, PRICHARD VILLEAU GIVE IT ROAD.
THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT IT.
UM, SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING, UM, THIS MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE? JUST ONE, IF I MIGHT MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, W WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING HELTON HAD REMAIN OPEN.
UM, WHERE DID WE LIGHT ON WHETHER THE C AND D IS REMOVED EVERY PLACE? IS THAT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION? I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE REMOVING OF THE C AND D ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT SAVES US SOME MONEY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THEN ALLOWS US TO KEEP THE STAY WITHIN BUDGET.
AM I ASSUMING THAT CORRECTLY? YES.
THE LAST COMMENT I WOULD MAKE AND IT'S KIND OF A MINOR ONE.
UM, IT DOES SEEM TO ME FOR THE PEOPLE ON HILTON HEAD.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T USE THE CONVENIENCE CENTER VERY MUCH, BUT I MAY GO ONCE A MONTH OR MY WIFE MIGHT GO ONCE A MONTH TO, UM, DROP SOME STUFF OFF.
UH, IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT SINCE WE KNOW WHO ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE, THAT RESIDENTS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET A DECAL FOR EACH VEHICLE THEY HAVE, AND WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT TODAY, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THAT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO DO.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD.
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I STRONGLY OPPOSE US, UM, ELIMINATING A C AND D OVER HERE AND NORTH AND ABROAD.UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF MARKET SITUATION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE RURAL AREAS, UH, OFTENTIMES HAVE, UM, UM, CONSTRUCTION, DEBRIEFS AND STUFF THAT THEY, THAT THEY ACTUALLY TAKE AND PUT IN THE DUMPSTER.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE STARTING TO BURN STUFF IN THE BACKYARD AND IN THE WOODS.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM BY ELIMINATING THEM, BEING ABLE TO BRING THAT STUFF TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS HERE WE ARE AGAIN, UM, UM, THE W THE REST OF THE CITIZENS OF BEAVER COUNTY BY NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THE CND ARE SUBSIDIZING THE PEOPLE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND WHO DON'T BRING SCENE D ANYWAY.
AND SO ALL THE REST OF US HAVE TO GIVE UP THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE CND AND YARD DEBRIS TO OUR CONVENIENCE.
HOLD ON, LET ME, LET ME FINISH SO THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD CAN, UH, CAN GO AHEAD AND NOT TAKE CARE OF ITS MUNICIPAL RESPONSIBILITY, LIKE EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THE, IN THE COUNTY.
AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
THEY NEED TO HANDLE THEIR MUNICIPAL OBLIGATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES TRASH.
I DON'T THINK ASKED MR. I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH MR. DAWSON.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL, UH, DEMOLITION ISSUES IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING, CAN'T BRING THAT OVER, BUT TRYING TO STOP COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES FROM DUMPING EVERYTHING THEY DO EVERY DAY INTO OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROHIBITION AGAINST RESIDENTS MAKE TAKING SMALL AMOUNTS OF THINGS OVER THERE.
I THINK IT'S A PROHIBITION AGAINST COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES FROM TAKING CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION, UH, AND, UH, COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE COMPANIES FROM TAKING YARD WASTE OVER THERE.
I THINK WE'LL TRY AND KEEP THE BUSINESSES OUT AND LET THEM PAY FEES TO MAKE THEIR DUMPING WHEREVER THEY CAN FOR A FEE, RATHER THAN HAVING US PAY THE FEE FOR THEIR, UH, ABILITY TO DUMP INTO THESE CONVENIENCE CENTERS WHEREVER THEY HAPPEN TO BE.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BIG COSTS COME IN.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU'RE VOTING YOU ELIMINATE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS, WE SHOULD BE ELIMINATING IN THE LANGUAGE COMMERCIAL DUMPING.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ELIMINATING.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT'S WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS.
WELL, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE ELIMINATE COMMERCIAL DUMPING, NOT RESIDENTIAL DUMPING.
IF SOMEONE HAS A ALEXIS OR A TOYOTA OR A HAN THAT HAS A TRUNK FULL OF CONSTRUCTION DRYWALL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY OBJECTS TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT A DUMP TRUCK COMING IN AND MAKING A BIG DUMP THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THE DUMP TRUCK IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED TO GO TO THE HICKORY HILL LANDFILL, PICK UP TRUCK OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, YEAH, AS MAKER OF THE MOTION, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS WAS COMMERCIAL DEBRIS.
I CANNOT, I CAN'T, I JUST CAN'T FATHOM THAT, YOU KNOW, TO LARRY'S POINT, IF SOMEBODY IS DOING A SMALL RENOVATION PROJECT AT HOME AND THEY PUT SOME DRYWALL ON A TRASH BAG AND THEY SHOW UP AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE RATIONAL SENSE.
UM, NO, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
HOWEVER, THE MOTION WAS TO ELIMINATE ALL C AND D AND THAT IS HOW WE GENERATE THE SAVINGS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE HILTON HEAD, UM, UH, CONVENIENCE CENTER OPEN WITHOUT THAT PROHIBITION.
ASHLEY, DOES THAT CHANGE THE NUMBERS MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CINDY TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST COMMERCIAL.
WE'RE NOT TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S LITTLE SMALL HOME PROJECT.
AND I'D BE GLAD TO AMEND THAT MOTION JUST TO ELIMINATE COMMERCIAL DUMPING RATHER THAN ALL DUMPING.
OKAY, CHRIS, YOU, WEREN'T THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AS WELL? YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY.
AND THAT WAS MY INITIAL INTENT AS WELL.
I JUST, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, IF SOMEBODY THROWS A COUPLE OF PIECES OF DRY ONE TRASH, THROWS IT UP TO THE SPINE OF THE DUMPSTER, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE WOULD ENFORCE THAT JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, BUT SOMEBODY WHO PULLS UP WITH A COMMERCIAL TRUCK, WHO'S GOT A TON OF DEBRIS.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO BE AN OBVIOUS AND CLEAR DISTINCTION THERE.
ACTUALLY, I DO ASK THAT IF THIS MOTION SHOULD PASS AND I SUSPECT THAT IT WILL, THAT, UM, THAT YOU EVALUATE THESE CHANGES AND GIVE US A REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IMPACTS OUR DECISION TO BE ABLE TO
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KEEP THE HILTON HEAD CENTER OPEN.SO IF YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY KEEP HILTON HEAD OPEN.
COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL DECALS, SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN ANY WAY.
SO THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS FROM A SMALL REMODELING AT HOME WOULD BE A PERSON WHO HAS A RESIDENCE AND THEREFORE HAS A DECAL BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT BE ISSUED.
ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS WOULD BE GETTING THEM.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO WORK REAL HARD ON THIS TO ELIMINATE COMMERCIAL DUMPING AND ALLOW RESIDENTIAL.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DECAL STAY OUT.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU, LARRY.
AND THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT WAS THAT OUR LANGUAGE INCLUDED ALL SEEN D THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GENERATED JUST BY A COMMERCIAL HAULER, RIGHT.
IT'S GENERATED BY SOMEBODY WHO'S TEARING OUT A WALL.
WHEREAS WE'RE PUTTING INTO OUR, TEARING OUT THE FLOORING, TEARING OUT THE TEARING OUT THE CARPET CAN PUT A NEW CARPET DANCE.
SO IF WE COULD HAVE THAT, UM, IT SAYS THE MOTION BY MR. HERBERT, SEAN SECOND BY MR. MCKELLEN IT'S TO LEAVE THE CENTER OPEN AND FOR MSW AND RECYCLING, BUT LIMIT VISITS VIA AN EFFECTIVE DECALS SYSTEM TWO PER WEEK, AND REMOVE THE COLLECTION OF COMMERCIAL C AND D WASTE ACROSS THE CAMERA.
IS THAT, IS THAT THE, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO VOTE? NO.
JUST SAY I OBJECT, OBJECT AND DEMAND A ROLL CALL VOTE.
THEN WE WILL APPROVE THIS AND FORWARD IT ON.
I BELIEVE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS TO REVIEW THIS ASHLEY, OR PLEASE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UM, UH, COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPROVE THIS DECISION OF THE COMMITTEE AND FORWARD IT APPROPRIATELY.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, IT BROUGHT OUT.
AFTER YOU PASS IT, I'LL HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION, THEN THIS MOTION IS FORWARDED AS PASSED AND, UH, COUNTY STAFF IS REQUIRED TO OBSERVE IT AND FORWARD IT TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
IF NECESSARY APPROVAL IS REQUIRED.
LARRY, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? IS THERE ANY ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN BY FINANCE SINCE THE, APPARENTLY THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE HILTON HEAD CONVENIENCE CENTER EXPIRES DECEMBER 31.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK FOR A FURTHER SUPPLEMENTAL, APPROPRIATE INTERNET REGARD.
THROUGH THIS MOTION, WHAT YOU'LL DO IS YOU'LL, THERE'LL BE SAVINGS THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO KEEP THE SITE OPEN.
OH, SO SAVINGS FROM THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THERE'LL BE SUFFICIENT, SUFFICIENT SAVINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, THROUGH THESE CHANGES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP THE SITE OPEN.
LARRY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CUTTING THE OPERATING COST IN HERE.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT THE APPROPRIATION SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT CONVENIENCE CENTER EXPIRED DECEMBER 31ST.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS EXTENDED BEYOND THAT.
IT WAS A BUDGET, A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE PARKING LOT LEASE.
JUST LET ME SAY, HEY, ASHLEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR HERDING CATS TOGETHER AND TO GET THIS ALL DONE.
SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY SHOULD JUST BE A FEDERAL COURTHOUSE RATHER PARKING LOT, ALTHOUGH THAT'S PART OF IT, BUT, UM, SHERIFF TANNER, WHO'S ON THE LINE.
UM, WE HAD A CONVERSATION, UM, ABOUT, UM, MOVING HIS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES INTO THIS BUILDING.
UM, SO YOU MAY RECALL WE ISSUED AN RFP FOR THE BUILDING.
WE HAD NO RESPONSES, SO THE BUILDING'S OPEN, IT'S EMPTY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S AVAILABLE.
AND, UM, I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA FOR HIM TO MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING AND UTILIZE IT.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO DO SEVERAL THINGS.
UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO SHARE A PAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ANY OF YOUR THUNDER, UH, BUT, UM, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUMP IN AT ANY TIME, BUT, UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THOUGH THIS WOULD ALLOW HIM TO, UM, TO FREE UP SOME SPACE IN HIS BUILDING, IN BUFORD FOR THE EOC, WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED.
IT ALSO WOULD MOVE US OUT OF THAT INVESTIGATORS BUILDING, WHICH IS, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THAT RIGHT ON REBAR ROAD.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD BUILDING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE IN AND WE CAN MOVE OUT OF THAT.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO, I THINK IT'S ABOUT $30,000 SO WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT COST.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT MOVE AND IT ALSO WOULD, UM, WOULD HELP US WITH OUR LONGTERM MASTER FACILITIES PLAN, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THIS WOULD GIVE HIM SOME SPACE TO, TO, TO OCCUPY AND, AND GROW AND, UM, AND, AND FUNCTION.
AND IT WOULD HELP US DELAY BUILDING A NEW CAMPUS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT ALTERNATIVES TO SHERIFF TANNER.
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HIS THUNDER BEFORE HE TALKS.PJ, GIVE ME A SECOND, UH, QUICKLY, LARRY, PLEASE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS MAY RESOLVE THE ISSUE I HAD WHEN I WAS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE US TO CONSIDER THE CAMP ST.
MARY'S AREA FOR THIS, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S COMMAND CENTER.
IF THIS OCCURS, THEN THAT'S OFF THE TABLE AND THAT'S A BIG, BIG SAVING IN DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN $8 MILLION PROJECT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
WELL, WHATEVER, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF IT, IF IT OBVIATES THE NEED FOR THAT.
SO THANK YOU, TARA TANNER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR INTRO SCLERODERMA.
WHAT I THINK YOU THINK MAYBE IT WAS YOUR TONE OF VOICE AND ASHLEY THAT SCARED HIM AWAY? WELL, I THINK WE HAVE THE GENERAL IDEA AND I, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO HAS, UM, QUESTIONS? UM, I MEAN, CLEARLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHERE ARE WE IN THAT EVALUATION? WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM, UH, EFFICIENTLY EVALUATE, GET ENGINEERING ESTIMATES OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO REPAIR THE BUILDING TO HIS NEEDS AND, UM, ACQUIRE THE PARKING THAT'S CLEARLY GOING TO BE NECESSARY.
WHAT'S OUR LONGTERM EFFECT ON OUR BUDGET FOR THAT.
AND, UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM THE SHERIFF, I THINK WE, WE PROBABLY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED WITH THAT EVALUATION.
UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AS SUCH? I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? SO BASICALLY IN ABOUT A MONTH, ASHLEY, WE'LL HEAR SOME OFFICIAL DATA ABOUT THE EFFECT, NOT ONLY ON THE COST AND OUR CURRENT BUDGET, BUT ANY BORROWINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND ANY RECONSTRUCTION AND THEN WHAT THE IMPACT ON OUR ANNUAL BUDGET'S GOING TO BE.
UM, AND THAT INFORMATION OF COURSE WILL BE SHARED WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
UM, SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS APPROPRIATELY SECONDED.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MOTION? OKAY.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MOTION WE PASSED AND WE'LL RECEIVE FURTHER INFORMATION NEXT MONTH, I SUPPOSE.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS THERE? INSTRUCTIONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MOVING ON NOW TO THE BID AWARD OF A NEW PACKER TRUCK FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
WHAT DO WE GOT? WHO'S BRINGING THAT UP.
CINDY, IS THAT YOU AGAIN? HOW FAST DID YOU LEAVE COMMENTS? NO, THAT ACTUALLY DARREN FRALEY.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY THIS IS A PARENT TRA FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING.
IT IS TO, UM, EFFECTIVELY HIP OPERATIONS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF COALS AND THUS THE, THE, THE COST FOR THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY EXIST IN THE FREIGHTLINER 2010.
PACKER TRIP HAS OVER 374,000 MILES ON IT, BUT THIS WOULD BE IN REPLACEMENT OF THAT.
THIS, THIS WAS APPROPRIATED FOR, UM, IN THE FISCAL YEAR 21 FUNDING FOR $160,000.
AND WITH THE STATE CONTRACTS, UM, THE BID WAS SELECTED AT $130,000, 500, 516 TO CAROLINA INTERNATIONAL TRUSTS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AWARD TO INTERNATIONAL CAROLINA.
HOW LONG HAVE THOSE SQUIRRELS BEEN DEAD THAT ARE GENERATING THE POWER FOR THOSE WHEELS? THAT IS AN OLD TRUCK WITH 300.
IS THERE ANY QUESTION SO MOVED, IT'S MOVED BY MR. COVERT.
IS THERE A SECOND, DAVE THOMAS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO GET THAT, TO TAKE THEM.
MR. MCALLEN WAS SENT THE BANNER.
IF THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS WE'LL WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THANK YOU.
YEAH, I, IT HAS TO GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE EVALUATE THAT.
UM, THE NEXT IS A CONTRACT AWARD FOR OUR FUSE, UM, STORMWATER ENGINEERING AND CONSULTING SERVICES FOR PUBLIC WORK, STORM WATER.
WHAT DO WE GOT? WE MEET AGAIN, THIS IS A NEW CONTRACT FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR THE STORM WATER DIVISION.
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UM, THE, TO HELP COMPLY WITH EMS BOARD REQUIREMENTS.THIS ENGINEER WOULD HELP US WITH OUR ANNUAL REPORTING AS WELL AS ANY OF FEATURE PROJECTS THAT COME FROM THE STORM WATER, UM, DIVISION.
WE HELD RFP RFQ PROCESS, AND WE HAD 10 PROPOSALS, UH, OF THOSE PROPOSALS.
WE SHORTLISTED AND HAD INTERVIEWS AND UNANIMOUSLY RANKED POOL PER INC AS THE NUMBER ONE RANKED FIRM.
SO THIS, UH, MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH, PROMOTE THE AWARD OF WOLPER INCORPORATED, UM, FOR THE STORM WATER, UM, CONSULTANT ADVERTISEMENT.
AND SO NO CONTRACT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED YET.
THAT'S THE SUBSEQUENT ISSUE, CORRECT? THAT'S GREAT.
THERE IS A FUNDING SOURCE ASSOCIATED FORWARD THE CONTRACT, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN NEGOTIATED AT THIS TIME.
IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD, THERE'S NOT A PROJECT SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY SET UP.
UM, SO WE'D HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT ON A TASK BY TASK BASIS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION MOVED BY MR. COVERT? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, HAPPY SECOND BY MR. MCCOWEN.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING ALL THE WORK TODAY.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANY NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE? THANK YOU.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THEN THIS MATTER WILL BE APPROVED.
MOVING ON TO THE AIRPORT, UH, HANGAR GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT.
I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY DONE THIS BY THE WAY.
UM, NO, THIS IS FOR A GROUND LEASE AT ARW.
SO THIS IS A POTENTIAL GROUND LEASE AND HANGAR LEASE ON A 25 YEAR LEASE.
UM, THIS IS THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH OF GENERAL AVIATION TO THE AIRPORT, AND THERE'S A NEED AND INTEREST OF INCREASED HANGER SPACE IN OUR AREA.
UM, THE AIRPORT LIKE TO OFFER LONG-TERM GROUND LEASES ON VACANT LAND AND CONSTRUCTION OF AIRCRAFT HANGERS, THE HANGERS THEMSELVES WOULD BE PRIVATELY FUNDED.
THERE'S AN INTEREST AS WELL THAT ARE ALREADY OF INTERESTED DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT IN THE AIRPORT.
ALSO, A LOT OF FUEL CELLS ARE MADE FROM LEASED AIRPLANES THAT ARE HOUSED THERE AT THE AIRPORT.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVER.
THE AIRPORT BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, UM, AND THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, FOR THIS APPROVED FOR THIS HANGER GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT FOR AIRCRAFT STORAGE AT AR W TO BE, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE MOVE BY MR. GLOVER.
IS THERE A SECOND SECOND THAT, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT YOU, MR. MCCOWEN, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DOES ANYBODY THINK I HAVE A, THERE'S A NEED FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE THEN WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MATTER IS APPROVED AND BECAUSE IT'S A LEASE, I THINK WE HAVE TO GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, AND SO IT'LL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
ANY OTHER MATTERS ON THE AGENDA THAT I MIGHT'VE MISSED? ANYBODY SEEN ANYTHING? UM, CITIZENS COMMENTS.
WERE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, SIR.
I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OF THAT EMAIL, ANYBODY BIG CHECK AND FACE I'M BUSY.
I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING PARTICULAR FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE AND HELP TODAY GETTING THROUGH THIS VERY DIFFICULT AGENDA AND I'M IN JOB.
AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU, ALSO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING IT OUT AND HELPING US GET TO RESOLVE SOME IMPORTANT ISSUES AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK IT WAS REALLY A REALLY GOOD PRODUCTIVE MEETING, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR HELP AND THROUGH IT WITHOUT ANY OTHER MATTERS.
THIS MEETING, WE NEED A MEETING IS ADJOURNED.