Dec 17, 2020 Ad Hoc Bluffton Growth Committee

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AM I SEE MISS CAROL CRUTCHFIELD AND COLONEL GEIER ON MOLLY IS GOING TO BE RUNNING THE MEETING AND I SEE RECORDING AND THE CHANNELS READY TO GO ARE BEING BROADCAST SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE AD HOC BLUFFTON GROWTH COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

CAN WE BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE? >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. Q NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS

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THE APPROVAL AGENDA FOR TODAY. >> I THINK YOU'RE MUTED STILL. YES SIR.

OK, SO MOVED. >> THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND IT.

ANY CONCERNS OF THE AGENDA? WE GOT TO GO. >> GOOD TO GO.

ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

MOLLY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY.

[Approval of the November 20, 2020 Committee Minutes]

>> SO THAT NEEDS TO REFLECT CORRECTLY. DECEMBER 17TH BEING OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING DATE WHICH IS TODAY LOOK GOOD. IS THAT GOOD WITH YOU?

>> UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING WITH THAT CORRECTION TO BE DECEMBER 17TH AS THE NEXT MEETING DATE MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM E WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE

[Discussion of the 45 Day Enrollment Statistics]

INFORMATION FROM MR. CRUTCHFIELD. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE YOUR

SCREEN? >> OH YOU WHAT? I GOT TO DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT. >> YOU'VE GOT A FULL BOOK BUT THE GREAT OK, SO WE'LL JUST START WITH THE SLIDE. SO THIS IS THIS YEAR'S ENROLLMENT DATA.

DISTRICT WIDE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FIRST WITH THE GRADE LEVEL BREAKDOWN. ELEMENTARY MIDDLE, HIGH PRE-K 8 WHICH ALSO INCLUDES RIVERVIEW CHARTER SCHOOL. AND THEN TOTAL DISTRICT WIDE. SO YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST COLUMN CONTAINS DATA FROM 2018 19. THEN THE SECOND COLUMN 19 20 SO THAT YOU CAN SHOW A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO YEARS AND WHAT PERCENT CHANGE THAT IS. SO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS YEAR 20 TWENTY ONE DATA AND THE DIFFERENCE YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO COMPARE IT TO.

SO THIS YEAR'S CHANGE IS I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BOARD MEETING THIS YEAR THAT WE HAD TWENTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED TWENTY NINE STUDENTS WHICH WAS A LOSS OF ELEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE WHICH IS 5.2 PERCENT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT GREATEST CHANGE IS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL. AND IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR WE HAD HAD A SLIGHT LOSS THE PREVIOUS YEAR AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL. HOWEVER, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LAST YEAR WE HAD GROWN FOR PERCENT AND THIS YEAR WE'VE DECLINED 4 PERCENT.

HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL GREW LAST YEAR BUT SURPRISE THIS YEAR IT'S GROWN EVEN MORE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THAT PRE-K 8 IT HAD AN 8 PERCENT LOSS AS WELL REFLECTING KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NUMBERS TO ABSORB FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND AGAIN, AS I TALKED ABOUT AT THE BOARD MEETING, WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THIS.

OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE SEEING VERY SIMILAR TRENDS WITH THE GREATEST LOSS AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL. THE YOUNGER GRADES OFTEN BEING THE HIGHER PERCENT LOSS WITH

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SO PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE JUST TO KEEP THEIR KIDS AT HOME OR SEND THEM THE PRICE OR WHATEVER OR NOT DO NOTHING. SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT WHAT I WOULD EXPECT IF I HAD KIDS STARTING OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THIS GOING ON SAY WELL YOU JUST WAIT

ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE YOU GO. >> I MEAN THAT'S COMMON ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GRANDSON THAT HE WASN'T QUITE MENTALLY READY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

SO WE KEPT HIM BACK A YEAR AND THAT WAS A GOOD CHOICE. IT WORKED OUT WELL.

SO YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THAT THAT REALLY TELLS ME THAT ONCE THIS IS OVER WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK PRETTY QUICKLY.

WOULD YOU AGREE? >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT AGAIN TRIED TO SIT DOWN ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS AS MUCH AS I CAN WITH OTHER PLANNERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT EVERYONE'S HOPING FOR THAT IT WILL ALL BOUNCE BACK. BUT I GUESS WE'RE ALL FEELING THE SAME THING AND THAT'S KIND OF REINFORCING IT'S NOT OUR IT'S NOT JUST OUR LOCAL PROBLEM .

IT'S THEREBY SEEING THE SAME KIND OF NUMBERS, BIGGER DROPS ELEMENTARY.

>> THE SECOND QUESTION IF YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON ENROLLMENT OF THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, I DO NOT AND I KNOW DANIEL WAS TRYING TO COMPILE SOME OF THAT BUT I THINK THAT THE RELIABILITY YET WAS THERE IS STILL TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS.

>> SO I DO NOT HAVE THAT DATA YET. SO THERE'S DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A CENTRAL WAREHOUSE WHERE WE CAN PULL THAT DATA. SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF GRAB FROM WHEREVER YOU CAN AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS SEEM TO BE RELIABLE.

ANECDOTALLY I'VE BEEN TOLD BY CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY'VE MOVED THEIR CHILDREN INTO BRIDGES AND TO BEAUFORT ACADEMY AND TO ST. JOHN PAUL MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY STARTED FULL FACE TO FACE WHAT

WE WERE DOING, THE VIRTUAL START AND SO ON. >> SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT COULD CHANGE ONCE THE PANDEMIC IS OVER. WE MAY SEE A FLOW BACK FROM THEM BUT WE THAT THAT'S REALLY AN UNKNOWN ALREADY. HOW THOSE ARE WITHOUT THEIR ENROLLMENT DATA. I DON'T IMAGINE THAT MANY KIDS LEFT THE COUNTY CORRECT.

THEY'RE EITHER IN HOME SCHOOL OR YOU KNOW, IN ONE OF THE OTHER PRIVATE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

OK, OK. >> MY I FEEL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> KNIGHT I JUST HAD ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S SO LOOKING BACK AND BE THE 10 YEAR PLAN BOOK AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE WERE PROJECTED TO BE AT AN AND I BELIEVE WHERE WE PROJECTED TO BE AT OR OVER TWENTY THREE THOUSAND I MIGHT WANT TO MAKE

SURE I'M READING RIGHT COLUMNS IN THE RIGHT CHART. >> I'M GOING TO PULL THAT UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE IT UP HERE FOR YOU AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THESE NUMBERS.

>> OBVIOUSLY WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR? SO WE'RE DOWN FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOWN FROM WHAT WE WERE PROJECTED TO

ALSO BE. >> YOU WERE LOOKING AT DISTRICT WIDE TWENTY TO SIX EIGHTY TWO TO EIGHTY TWO THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF AROUND HUNDRED AND HERE.

>> SO MORE OR LESS EXCUSE ME I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN MIND TOO BECAUSE THERE'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR AND THEN ALSO THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WAS PROJECTED. SO THAT RELATES THEN TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION.

YES. AS PART OF THE ONGOING ANALYSIS OR PROJECTIONS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT TOO. RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH.

I BROKE DOWN THE DATA ATTENDANCE DATA FROM LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AND A DIFFERENCE

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HELENA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL. MY CRACK IN BLUFFTON AND MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL ALL ACTUALLY GREW THIS YEAR. AND THEN THERE, YOU KNOW, SOME BIGGER LOSSES PERCENTAGE WISE AT SCHOOLS LIKE PORT ROYAL THAT LOST FIFTY SEVEN STUDENTS.

WHILE THAT'S A SMALLER NUMBER THAN SOME OTHER SCHOOLS LIKE DUPONT L PERCENTAGE WISE.

THAT'S THAT'S A BIG LOSS THERE . AND THEN CLUSTER WISE WHEN WE WERE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE BLUFFTON AND HALF YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN THE CLUSTER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW IT LOST TO TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY STUDENTS WHICH WAS A 3 PERCENT LOSS. AND WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING PROBABLY THREE AND A HALF FOUR PERCENT GROWTH EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST. WELL, AS LONG AS I THINK I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE DATA WHICH IS SINCE 2000. SO A LONG TIME.

SO YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR I DO THINK IS AN OUTLIER ANOMALY YEAR THAT WE'RE SEEING EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING AND WOULD WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD? SO OVERALL THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER SAW THAT WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LOSS THE SMILES PERCENTAGE

OF . >> ALL RIGHT. RIGHT.

BUT I'M WONDERING IN LOOKING AT MCCRACKEN BUFFED AND HIGH RIVER HIGH.

WHAT WERE WE PROJECTED TO GROW THERE SINCE I DID SEE A PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH?

WHAT WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO MAYBE SEE INTO WAS MAY RIVER. >> WE HAD PROJECT THEM TO BE AT 15 30, 7 THIS YEAR AND THEY'RE AT 14 7 MAY NOT HAVE TO WORK OUT THE MATH PERCENTAGE WISE.

BLUFFTON HIGH WE WERE LOOKING AT TWELVE THIRTY FIVE AND THEY'RE AT 12 NINE.

>> SO THEY'RE ABOVE OUR I THINK SHE'S ASKING YOU LOOK AT MAY RIVER THEY WERE AT ONE HUNDRED AND TWO PERCENT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A HUNDRED TEN THAT THEY WERE PROJECTED TO GROW ABOUT 8 PERCENT. SO THEY GREW THREE POINT FOUR. SO THAT TELLS YOU THEY HAD A WEEKLY ACTUALLY YOU GUESS PROJECTION WAS THAT THEY HAD BEEN CORRECT.

THE LOSS WAS 5 PERCENT LOSS IS WHAT WE EXPECTED. RIGHT.

RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT BLUFFTON BLUFFTON? >> WE PROJECTED TWELVE THIRTY FIVE OR ACTUAL ENROLLMENTS 12 19. SO THEY'RE SEVEN AND A HALF

PERCENT GROWTH IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED. >> YEAH ACTUALLY BECAUSE YOU HAD A THEY WERE AT 84 PERCENT AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE EIGHTY SIX WE WERE ONLY EXPECTING 2 PERCENT GROWTH. NOW ONE OF THE THINGS OF COURSE OF BLUFFTON HIGH IS THAT THERE IS SOMEWHAT OF AN ACCELERATED GROWTH WITH GOOD ZONING CHANGES WE MADE MOVING SOME OF THAT IS MOVING SOME OF THOSE FROM MAIN RIVER WITH THOSE ZONING CHANGES BLUFFTON HIGH AND THAT CAN PROBABLY ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE LOSS THAT MAY REMAIN IN SOME OF THE GAIN AT BOOK END AND PROBABLY SOME OF THE NOT AS BIG A LOSS AT BLUFFTON ELEMENTARY AS SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BECAUSE AGAIN THOSE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS OUT IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA WE WE'VE ZONED TO BLUFFTON. SO THOSE CHILDREN COME IN AS PEOPLE MOVE IN AND BUY THOSE HOMES. SO ALTHOUGH THEY LOST, THEY'RE NOT YOU KNOW, IN THE 5 TO 10 PERCENT RANGE RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'LL SEE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING MCCRACKEN MCCRACKEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A THOUSAND TWENTY NINE STUDENTS THERE AT NINE THIRTY FIVE BARBARA ON THE

MAP DIED. >> THEY WERE AT 1 0 2. WE PROJECTED TO BE AT 113.

SO THAT GROWTH WAS PROJECTED TO BE A 9 PERCENT GROWTH. NOW AGAIN MCCRACKEN WE DIDN'T MOVE AS MANY I GUESS. ADAM MCCRACKEN SO THAT'S AS FAR AS ZONES.

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>> WELL AND LAST YEAR PROJECTIONS FROM KRAKEN WERE ALSO REFLECTIVE OF THE HUGE JUMP THEY HAD TAKEN THE YEAR BEFORE BECAUSE THEY HAD INCREASED 430 TO STUDENTS LAST YEAR. SO AGAIN SETTING THEM PROJECTIONS THE WAY EVERYTHING'S CALCULATED IF YOU'D HAVE A BIG JUMP THE PROJECTION GOING FORWARD THAT'S

GOING TO READ INTO THAT THAT JUMP OR DECLINE. >> SO CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RED CEDAR BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IS SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHER ONES. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IN THAT ELEMENTARY RANGE BUT IT SEEMS TO BE THE MORE HARD HIT. SO ARE WE ASSUMING BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS THERE THE EPS? I REALLY DO NOT HAVE AN EXPLANATION. I HATE TO SAY I'VE NOT ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE CORE REALLY ABOUT THAT TO SEE WHAT HER INTERPRETATION OF THAT LOSSES.

YEAH, I'D LOVE TO GET HER TAKE ON WHAT SHE SEES THAT AS BEING ATTRIBUTED WE'LL DO IF SHE HAD

ANY IDEA BUT WHAT WERE THEY PROJECTED TO BE. >> THAT'S DOUBLE THAN ANY

OF THE OTHERS. >> DID HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH CORALIE EARLY ON AND I KNOW I THINK SHE'S GETTING BOTH SIDES WHERE SHE DOES HAVING SOME PARENTS SHE WAS AWARE OF THAT WENT TO HOMESCHOOLING AND THEN SHE ALSO HAS A LOT OF THOSE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE LEARNERS THAT MAY HAVE LEFT THOSE MAY BE TO PARENTS THAT WERE IN THE COULD BE IN

THE SERVICE INDUSTRY MAY HAVE LEFT THE AREA. >> SO WE HAVE PROJECTED THEM TO GROW BY 1 PERCENT AND LAST YEAR THEY HAD A LARGE POPULATION, A LARGER POPULATION TRANSFERRING

IN. >> SO LIKE OUR RESIDENT PROJECTION WAS 6 AWAY BUT THEN WITH THE CHOICE OF TRANSFERRING IT WAS TO BE 7 0 9. AND YOU KNOW THE REALITY FOR THIS YEAR IS FIVE SEVENTY TWO. SO WE HAD THEM GROWING AT 1 PERCENT.

>> RIGHT THEN THAT WERE THEIR LOSSES. NOW SOME OF THAT COULD BE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEIR HOME SCHOOLED SO THAT THEY WERE CHILDREN THEY WOULD GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS LIKE YOU KNOW SPECULATION HERE.

>> ABSOLUTE SPECULATION. >> DO WE HAVE A WAY TO LOOK AT THIS DATA WITH THE PERCENTAGE LIKE IN THE BOOK THAT HAS THE DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN BASED ON THE CHOICE OF FACT INDEPENDENT ZONES AND WE ARE STILL IN PROCESS OF DOING ALL OF THAT ANALYSIS BECAUSE REMEMBER THIS

YEAR 5 DAY WAS WELL INTO NOVEMBER. >> SO WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT ANALYSIS WITH THE PROJECTIONS. AND HOPE TO HAVE THAT AT SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR. I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THAT YET BUT THAT IS SOMETHING

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE BEFORE TOO LONG. >> I THINK IS THAT THE NEXT CONVERSATION IS ON PROJECTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE NEXT SLIDE. I THINK JUST SORT OF TAKES THE BLUFFTON DATA AND BREAKS IT DOWN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH LIKE THAT FIRST SLIDE. BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER BY ITSELF SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT BREAKDOWN OF EIGHT PERCENT LOSS OF THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL 5 PERCENT GROWTH AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND JUST A SLIGHT CHANGE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL ALTHOUGH WELL I IT THE CHANGE THE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE RIVERVIEW CHARTER SCHOOL IN THIS PARTICULAR BLUFFTON BREAKDOWN I APOLOGIZE.

THAT SHOULD COME OFF THAT SUGGEST RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY. OKAY.

OKAY. SORRY. I'LL TAKE THAT LABELING OFF BEFORE WE POSTED. SO THEN THE NEXT SLIDE. I JUST DID ONE I JUST TALK ABOUT PROJECTIONS. YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE READ YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BOTH HERE SOME DISCUSSION IN THERE, YOU KNOW I COULD SPEND OUR LECTURE TALKING ABOUT HOW PROJECTIONS ARE DONE BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE MODEL WORKS SO THAT WHEN YOU SEE A LOS LIKE WE'RE SEEING THIS YEAR WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO TO PROJECTIONS FOR 1 TO 5 YEARS. SO OUR MODEL LOOKS AT 10 YEARS OF BIRTHDAY DATA AND IT CALCULATES A COHORT SURVIVAL FROM BIRTH DATA TO WHO SHOWS UP

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AND SO IT CALCULATES A COHORT SURVIVAL FOR EACH OF THOSE FIVE YEARS LOOKING AT HISTORY AND THEN WHAT IT DOES IS IT TAKES A WEIGHTED AVERAGE CALCULATION SO THAT THAT MOST RECENT COHORT SURVIVAL TREND IS GOING TO HAVE MORE WEIGHT IN DETERMINING FUTURE THAN WHAT HAPPENED THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. SO WHEN WE SEE A DRAMATIC CHANGE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE MORE IMPACT INTO CALCULATIONS GOING FORWARD.

SO AND AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO THIS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, ALL OF OUR PROJECTION MODEL RESULTS ARE FOR RESIDENTS STUDENTS WHO IS LIVING IN THAT AREA, NOT NECESSARILY WHO'S ATTENDING THE SCHOOL. AND THAT'S WHILE YOU'LL SEE IN THE BOOK WE HAVE THE CALCULATION FOR CHOICE EFFECT WHERE WE DO THEN TAKE THAT CALCULATION WHO'S TRANSFERRING INTO THE SCHOOL AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL AND WHY THEY'RE IN WHAT SORT OF WHY THEY'RE TRANSFERRING OUT A LOT OF THOSE OR CHOICE PROGRAMS BUT ALSO IN THAT GENERAL CALCULATION YOU SEE ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC SHEETS IT ALSO INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SPECIAL EDUCATION EMPLOYEE COURTESY MAJORITY MINORITY AND HARDSHIP CASE CASES ALL OF THOSE REASONS.

ANY REASON THAT A STUDENT IS ATTENDING A SCHOOL THAT IS NOT THEIR HOME SCHOOL? THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE REPORTED IN THAT TRANSFERS IN AND OUT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO BRING THIS UP RIGHT NOW IS TO START THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PROJECTIONS THIS YEAR AS HINTED AT AND ASK THOSE OR ASK CAROL, YOU KNOW WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO COME BACK? AND THAT RIGHT NOW IS THE HUGE UNKNOWN.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THE PROJECTION MODELS ARE DONE IN AS CAROL WAS SAYING WAYS THE PREVIOUS YEAR IF WE USE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE NOW SAY IN ELEMENTARY OVERALL IT'S GOING TO SHOW A DECLINE WILL WHERE AS YOU ALLUDED TO WE WERE EXPECTING SOME PERCENTAGE OF THOSE STUDENTS COME BACK AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT'S KIND OF CRUX AND JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT FOR DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ABOUT THAT AND WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THAT WHAT? BECAUSE WE DO THIS AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL WE CAN LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL TRENDS TO SEE IF KIDS FROM CERTAIN AREAS LEFT WHETHER THEY LEFT OR NOT LIVING IN THE COUNTY OR NOT WE DON'T KNOW.

>> BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT OUR SYSTEM AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, CONVERSELY WE CAN LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT CONTINUE TO GROW AND PRODUCE STUDENTS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE USUALLY PUT ON A MAP AND PUT IN THAT IN THE BOOK ANYWAY. SO YOU CAN SEE WHICH AREAS ARE GROWING THE MOST AND THAT WILL HELP LEAD US TO WHAT HOW TO BETTER INTERPRET THE ACTUAL

PROJECTIONS BY SCHOOL. >> I THINK WHAT I'M ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECTIONS

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IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> I KNOW THAT AGAIN DANIEL WAS TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE STUDENTS MAY HAVE GONE JUST FROM WHERE THEIR RECORDS WERE SENT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT THAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED OR COMPLETED OR IF THEY'RE GOING FURTHER WITH THAT STUDY.

SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING IN STRUCTURAL SIDE. I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING KIND OF CLOSELY IS MOVED TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

WHAT'S THAT IMPACT? ARE WE GOING TO SEE MORE STUDENTS START TO COME BACK OR VISE VERSA DUE TO FEAR OF THE CHANGE? AND AS WE PUSH OUT EVEN TO THE ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE DAY WHICH IS THE NEXT KIND OF BIG MARK FOR ACTUALLY WHEN THIRTY FIVE ONE. ONE THIRTY FIVE THAT THEY ARE GONNA START.

>> YEAH. WHERE WILL WE BE THERE. YOU KNOW IF THE VACCINE STARTS TO BE ADMINISTERED ARE WE GOING TO SEE KIDS COMING BACK THEN THAT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEARN MORE AS A YEAR GOES ON. WE JUST AT THIS POINT DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET A PUT THIS IN A BIGGER PICTURE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS BEFORE. KOGUT I WAS CONVINCED THAT WE HAD TO START PROBABLY SPRAYING WITH LOOK DOING ACTIVE PLANNING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL. NOW GIVEN THIS DATA I DON'T SEE IT. I DON'T SEE IT. THAT'S A GOOD OPTION RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THAT. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS. BUT WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THE QUESTION.

RACHEL ASK ABOUT HAS ANYBODY CALLED THE FAMILIES AND GOT AN IDEA OF ARE THEY STILL HERE? ARE THEY IN HOMESCHOOL? ARE THEY IN PRIVATE SCHOOL? I THINK WE KNOW THAT AS SOON AS WE GET BACK INTO FULL OPERATIONS, NONCOMBAT OPERATIONS, PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING TUITION AND ARE HOMESCHOOLING ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING GOING BACK INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE I THINK IT'S A GOOD ASSUMPTION BUT ALSO I THINK WE WE NEED TO NOT SAY WELL LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING.

LET'S JUST WAIT TILL WE GET TO ONE FIVE. LET'S WAIT TILL NEXT FALL AND

LOOK HARDER WHEN WE GET SOME MORE HARD DATA. >> WE NEED TO START TALKING TO THAT PLANNERS AND THE REAL ESTATE PEOPLE BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM REAL ESTATE FOLKS NORTH OF THE BROAD REAL ESTATE FOLKS NORTH OF THE BORDER ARE TELLING ME IT'S BOOMING. FOR EXAMPLE, LET ME GIVE A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE.

>> DOTTORE ISLAND AS A PROXIMITY TWO THOUSAND HOMES ON THEIR OVER THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY HOMES FOR SALE OR VACANCIES.

TODAY THEY HAVE 30 HOMES AND THEY HAVE REALTORS KNOCKING DOOR TO DOOR SAYING WE HAVE CLIENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN YOUR HOME. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SELL? THEY HAVEN'T HAD THAT KIND OF DEMAND IN THE MEMORY OF ANY OF THE REALTORS IN THIS AREA.

THAT'S JUST ONE LITTLE SPOT I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES OR HOMES ARE ON THE MARKET FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS AND IT'S CONSISTENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BLUFFED HIM BUT I ASSUME HERE'S WHAT I TALKED TO THE REALTORS BUT I SAID WHO'S COMING?

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>> AND WHO'S COMING ARE PEOPLE FROM THE NORTHEAST WHO ARE FINDING THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR WORK VIRTUALLY. AND THEY WOULD RATHER DO THEIR WORK VIRTUALLY OUTSIDE THE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE FREEDOM TO MOVE AROUND.

THERE'S MORE YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL SAFER. >> AND SO THIS HAS BECOME VERY ,VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR THOSE KINDS OF FOLKS ARE THOSE KINDS OF FOLKS DEMOGRAPHICALLY ARE OLDER FOLKS LOOKING FOR FINAL JOB BEFORE RETIREMENT? THEY ARE OLDER FOLKS THAT CAN AFFORD THE HIGHER INCOME HIGHER PRICED HOMES LIKE YOU HAVE A DOTTORE AND HABERSHAM IS SEEING THE SAME THING. SO THAT TO ME IS A KIND OF BACK TO MY ECONOMICS BACKGROUND AS A LEADING ECONOMIC INDICATOR BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WHEN THOSE FOLKS MOVE IN THEY TEND TO STAY LONGER AND TO THEY DEMAND MORE SERVICES WHICH DEMAND MAKES MORE GROCERY STORES MAKES MORE YOU KNOW, SHOPS TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK.

AND THAT DRIVES THE LOWER INCOME YOUNGER PARENTS WHO COME IN WITH CHILD SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN KIND OF THE WAY THE MARKET HAS EVOLVED. IT STARTS WITH THE HIGHER END AND THEN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY MOVES INTO SUPPORT THE HIGHER. AND THAT BRINGS IN THE KIDS. SO THAT'S WHY TO ME WE NEED TO BE TALKING TO ESPECIALLY THE REALTORS IN THE BLUFFTON AREA. WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF ANECDOTALLY I KNOW IT'S NOT HARD DATA YET BUT WE DON'T HAVE HARD DATA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW

WHAT'S GOING TO COME BACK. >> BUT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FINGERS ON THE MARKET AND THE PLANNERS AT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO SAY, OK, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SEEING? WHAT INDUSTRIES ARE TALKING ABOUT? PUBLIX IS MOVING IN HOPEFULLY WHOLE FOODS AND THOSE UPPER OR HIGHER END STORES THAT ARE COMING IN TO MEET THE

REQUIREMENTS OF THESE HIGHER INCOME FOLKS MOVING. >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR YOU

THINK WE CAN TO ME? >> I MEAN I THINK THAT WHAT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT CAROL PRESENTED TO US HERE WHERE WE SEE BLUFFTON EVERYWHERE TOOK A HIT.

BUT THAT BLUFFTON WAS PERCENTAGE WISE MUCH LOWER IN SCALE WITH ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE UNIQUE INSTANCES AT RED CEDAR AND MAY RIVER AND BLUFFTON HIGH.

I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND FOR LACK OF PUTTING IT ANY OTHER WAY.

I THINK THIS MAY HAVE COVERED TRYING TO LOOK AT THE POSITIVE OR THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. IT COULD HAVE BOUGHT SOME TIME IN DEALING WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S OCCURRED HERE. I DO SEE LEFT AND DEFINITELY BEING ONE OF THOSE AREAS THOUGH THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK QUICKLY. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORKING CLASS PEOPLE IN BLUFFTON AND THEY THEY'RE MEET THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS SO IN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS. SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED IS SOME TYPE OF INSIGHT INTO THOSE PARENTS THOUGHTS AND DESIRES FOR WHEN AND IF THEY ARE PLANNING ON BRINGING THEIR STUDENTS BACK TO US. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO CONDUCT A SURVEY THAT WOULD BE MY INDICATION OF WHAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN TAG THAT INTO OUR TIMELINE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY THINK THE TIMELINE

IS OBVIOUSLY SHIFTING SO IT DOESN'T GO AWAY. >> IS THE ATTENDANCE ZONES ISSUE ARE ON OUR MAP WITH ATTENDANCE ZONES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND AN OVERLAPPING AND SO ON AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS WHAT IS OUR END STATE GOING TO BE?

>> HOW DO WE WANT THE ATTENDANCE ZONES TO BE ONCE WE ACHIEVE SOME KIND OF BUILD OUT

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THE PLANNING FOR MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL AND RIVER RIDGE. >> SO THAT WOULD BE 2014 15 WHEN WE TOOK A GLOBAL AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT ATTENDANCE ZONES IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO LOOK AT THEM GLOBALLY DISTRICT WIDE EVEN AGAIN WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT SINCE THEN. SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF THE IDEAL THE RECOMMENDED ONE WE HAD WAY BACK THEN WOULD STILL BE THE RECOMMENDED ONE OR NOT WITHOUT REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED. YOU KNOW IN THE PAST FIVE, SIX YEARS BECAUSE IT IT BECOMES EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE CIVIL RIGHTS. SO ANYTIME WE MAKE ANY KIND OF CHANGE IN STUDENT ASSIGNMENT THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THEM. ONCE YOU ALL APPROVE IT THEN THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL ON IT. ON TOP SO THE SPOT REZONING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE DID NOT AFFECT ANY CURRENT STUDENTS IT WAS ONLY DONE TO AFFECT PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T HERE YET. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE GONNA BE. THEY NEVER WEIGHED IN ON THAT. SO WE SENT THEM THE INFORMATION BUT THEY DID APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF THIS. SO GOING BACK TO THAT AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD, I'M GOING TO DO THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION SO

CAN QUESTION TO AS WELL. >> OH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU ON MORE.

YEAH. YES, SIR. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS ESPECIALLY WITHOUT ACTUALLY SHE JUST HIT THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK WHERE DO THE OFFICE CIVIL RIGHTS PLAY IN THIS MOTION AND ALSO HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AS WELL AS GETTING GETTING GETTING THESE DIFFERENT LEADERS?

>> I MEAN DIFFERENT COUNCIL COUNCILS INVOLVED IN THE BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP PORT ROCKPORT RO TOWNSHIP, CITY TOWNSHIP IS WELL WITHIN MAKING THESE DECISIONS BECAUSE THESE COULD ALSO CHANGE IN LINES AT SOME POINT IN TIME AS WELL FOR BOARD MEMBERS.

WHEN WE START GETTING GOING IN TERMS OF EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE BUS LINES BUT THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THAT COULD CHANGE. BOARD MEMBERS DISTRICT IN ZONES AS WELL KNOWN FOR BOARD MEMBERS SIGNS ARE CHANGED THROUGH OTHER LEGISLATION AND THE COUNTY

WORKS WITH THE STATE TO CHANGE THOSE LINES BASED CENSUS DATA. >> SO IT ONLY CHANGES FOR CENSUS DATA, SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AND PHOTO. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

OUR INDEPENDENT BOARD POLITICAL ZONES AND I RESPECT THAT. >> HOWEVER THIS TO ME THIS COULD STILL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STILL THE CENSUS JUST BEEN TAKEN.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD STILL GET THE PROCESS BOUGHT UP FOR THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.

SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS CRESTVIEW. YES.

YES. THAT THE ESSENCE OF THAT THAT THERE IS SOME VALIDITY IN THAT BUT IN THE DAY IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO START THE CONVERSATION AND WE CAN GO FROM

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I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. YOU ENTIRELY OUT ENTITLED TO THEM WHICH I WOULD THINK BUT THAT AS A BOARD MEMBER THAT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK THANK YOU. YOU'RE ADDING THIS TO YOUR HANDS.

>> YES. I WAS GONNA BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT I THINK ABOUT BUYING TIME. I THINK WE ALL WERE GETTING TO THE POINT SEEING THAT WE WERE IN AND WE WERE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WHERE WE WERE WITH THE GROWTH AND REALLY COVERED RIGHT NOW HAS BOUGHT US A YEAR BECAUSE THEIR GROWTH WE'RE SEEING WE'RE SEEING KIND OF SLOWED DOWN. THE QUESTION IS DID IT BIAS ONE DEVICE TWO YEARS TWO TO BUY IT? WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW.

AND TO MR. DYER'S POINT, WE WE NEED TO KEEP WATCHING THIS INCREMENTALLY BECAUSE IT COULD BE A JUMPS RIGHT BACK UP WHICH MEANS YOU'RE THE TIME YOU BOUGHT IT'S GONE AND WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT RATHER QUICKLY AS WE WERE BEFORE.

YO YO WE'RE SEEING WHERE WE WERE BEFORE. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT AND ALSO RACHEL, TO YOUR POINT OF KIND OF LOOKING IN AND GO INTO THE BOARD AND REQUESTING RODRIGUEZ TO DO SOME SURVEYS OR FIND SOME INFORMATION. I MEAN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WORKING ON THAT. I'D SAY THE NEXT BLUFFTON AD WE CAN BRING IFAD AND AS A GROUP WE COULD START BRINGING OUR INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GATHERING AND WORK HARDER ON GATHERING THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING TO BETWEEN NIST WE CAN REPORT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHAT WE'RE THINKING. YEAH THAT'LL BE GREAT. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, I'M I LIKE IDEA OF THE NEXT BLUFFTON MAY BRING AN IED. I THAT NEED THESE 45 DAY NUMBERS AND THIS CONVERSATION I WAS ALREADY PLANNING ON DOING AN UPDATE KIND OF AN INTERIM UPDATE TO THE FULL BOARD AND I THINK THIS PLAYS DIRECTLY INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S SHIFTING OUR OUR WORK SLIGHTLY NOT NECESSARILY OUR PURPOSE BUT IT IS GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THINGS NOW AND HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO HANDLE THEM.

SO I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE THE DIRECTIVE AND THEN AT THE JANUARY MEETING STILL MAYBE COME IN AND FIRM THAT UP JUST SO THAT THE FULL BOARD ALSO HAS A CHANCE TO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL WE'RE SEEING IN BLUFFTON. I THINK THAT WHAT IS THAT PAGE TO THAT PAGE TWO OF THESE NUMBERS WHERE IT SHOWS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND IT SHOWS THAT PERCENTAGE SHIFT AND YOU STILL SEE THAT BLUFFTON IS ONLY AT THE NEGATIVE THREE POINT ONE

PERCENT IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER CLUSTERS. >> I THINK THAT'S VERY TELLING AND THAT THE FULL BOARD SHOULD REALLY SEE THAT INFORMATION NOW AS OPPOSED TO LATER ON DOWN THE LINE. SO LET'S SEE. WELL, I SEE YOUR HANDS UP ALSO I WE'LL SAY ALSO TO THAT THE 45 NO THE 45 THESE NUMBERS ARE THE LAST REPORT THAT WE HAD LOSING

ABOUT TWELVE TWELVE THOUSAND. >> HOW MUCH OF THE STORES THAT WE LOST THAT CONCERN ME AS WELL. WHAT AREA? THOSE ARE AND HOW DOES THAT

AFFECT WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING AS WELL? >> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

JUST TOUCHING ON THE EVIDENCE THAT THAT'S WHAT I THAT THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS MY SECOND THING. I FORGOT TO HIT ON IT MUCH. I JUST WENT TO TOUCH BASE.

I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH BASES ON THAT AS WELL. NEXT QUESTION.

DID YOU PLAN TO BRING THAT 45 DAY? IS THIS THE INFORMATION YOU

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>> I KNOW I HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT YET, ROBERT. I DON'T IF YOU HAVE SO I MEAN THIS IS ONE WAY OF BRINGING IT HERE TO YOU FIRST AS ONE WAY OF MAKING IT PUBLIC.

NOW IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING. IT'S NOW PUBLIC DATA. I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL WANT TO DISCUSS IT AT YOUR FULL BOARD AND WE CERTAINLY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL PUT ON THE AGENDA, WE

CAN DO THAT. >> YEAH, I THINK FOR MY INTERIM REPORT AND AT THE NEXT YEAR I BELIEVE THAT THE NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING IS WHEN I PLAN TO MAKE IT.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE THIS DATA TO USE ALSO FOR FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK THAT UNDERSTANDING AND SEEING THAT'S BROKEN DOWN THE WAY THAT YOU'VE DONE AT THE BOARD LEVEL WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

AND COLONEL DYER, IF YOU'RE OK WITH ME PASSING THE GAVEL AND MAKING MOTION OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO GO FORWARD IN SURVEY THOSE THAT HAVE TRANSFERRED OUT OF OUR SYSTEM IF YOU WANT ME I CAN I CAN MAKE THE MOTION AND BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD THAT THE DISTRICT CONDUCT A SURVEY OF THOSE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL RECOMMEND THAT THE APPROVAL OF A MOTION TO HAVE THE DISTRICT CONDUCT A SURVEY OF PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT AND THE USTR ICG WHO HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT AND THEIR PLANS FOR POSSIBLY RETURNING TO THE DISTRICT POST COVERED THAT MAKE

. >> DOES THAT SOUND ALL RIGHT? RACHEL YEAH, I THINK THE THING THAT IT WOULD BE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY SUPERINTENDENT HAD TO

HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT. >> YEAH WELL YEAH. >> I HE'LL DIRECT A STAFF TO DO IT. AND THEN MY ONLY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE POSTCODE BIT PART.

I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT WE WANT TO USE IS CONSIDERED POSTCODE. >> YEAH THAT'S THAT'S HARD.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY YOU JUST SAY POSTCODE AND PERHAPS. YEAH.

WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT IS IT'S GOING TO BE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S VERY PROBABLE THAT BY NEXT FALL ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL BE VACCINATED. THAT'S WHAT FOUCHIER AND THE REST OF THEM ARE SAYING THAT THEY THINK IT WILL BE RELATIVELY NORMALISED BY NEXT FALL.

BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S EVEN FOR HIM. THAT'S JUST A I GUESS NO ONE NO

ONE REALLY KNOWS. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK. >> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK PARENTS. THEY WOULDN'T WHEN IT IS OVER TO WANT TO BRING YOUR CHILDREN

BACK INTO THE DISTRICT. >> YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE THE ONE YOU KNOW WHAT IF BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY FALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WE DON'T KNOW IT'S GONNA BE THEN.

>> YEAH. I WONDER IF WE CAN HAVE TO GIVE THEM A CHOICE OF WHEN WE SAY POSTCODE VAD IF WE SAY BALL 20 21 OR AFTER YOU KNOW GIVING THEM A CHOICE OF DIFFERENT VARIABLE TIMES BECAUSE THEN I'LL GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW MANY ARE PLANNING ON COMING BACK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. BUT WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT A FULL BOARD LEVEL AS WELL. THEY MIGHT HAVE OTHER INFO THEY WANT TO GATHER BUT I JUST WANT

TO KICK THIS UP TO THEM. >> TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A MOTION TO HAVE THE SUPERINTEND A SURVEY OF PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT AND THEIR PLANS FOR POSSIBLY RETURNING TO THE DISTRICT POSTCODE IN PERFECT. AND THE SECOND IS BY ME MOLLY.

>> YES. AND THEN ANY OTHER. WILLIAM, I SEE YOUR HAND.

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I APOLOGIZE. >> YOU ASK YOUR FATHER WHAT MY ON ONE THINKS THIS BROCHURE

WOULD BE NOT JUST FOR BLUFFTON. >> THIS COULD BE FOR THE DISTRICT.

I'D BE USEFUL FOR THE ENTIRE OFFER ON THIS. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MISS CRUTCHFIELD AND ROBERT. DO YOU HAVE AN ANTICIPATED DATE

FOR WHEN THE 10 YEAR PLAN WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE 4? >> ONE OF OUR THOUGHT WAS STARTING CONVERSATIONS HERE ON PROJECTIONS. I GUESS I HEARD MR. GEIER SAYING HE WANTED US TO MOVE FORWARD NOW RECOGNIZING THOUGH THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO SHOW IF WE KEEP THEM THE WAY WE'VE DONE THEM IN THE PAST, IT'S GOING TO SHOW A DECLINE IN ALL THOSE AREAS. STUDENTS OUTSIDE OF THOSE JUST GROWING REGIONS OR IT'S GOING TO SHOW US WHERE WE WERE GOING UP. WE'RE GONNA START TO SEE IT COMING BACK DOWN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF OUR CONVERSATION IS JUST WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

SO WE HAVE SOME HESITATION TO PUT THOSE PROJECTIONS TOGETHER KNOWING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO SHOW BECAUSE IF THE HIGH PERCENTAGE COME BACK THEN OUR PROJECTIONS ARE GONNA BE WAY OFF. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE KIND OF LIKE TO WAIT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR DISCUSSION.

WE WANTED TO HAVE MR. GO YOU GUYS SAID THAT HE REALLY WANT TO HAVE THEM NOW.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND SO GAIL WANT US TO. ARE YOUR SUGGESTION IS TO GO AHEAD AND DO SOME EVEN IF IT SHOWS SAY BLUFFTON ARE A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS BLUFFING GOING

INTO DECLINE? >> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

SO JUST RECOMMEND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT POPS UP WHEN YOU TALK TO PLANNERS.

WE LOOK AT SHORT TERM AND WE LOOK AT LONG TERM OBVIOUSLY FOR THE SHORT TERM PROJECTION YOU NEED SOME DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR STAFFING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS GOING FORWARD. SO THEY'RE SORT OF A NECESSITY FOR THAT IN TERMS OF LONG TERM CAPITAL PLANNING. I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE DISTRICTS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHO WERE GROWTH DISTRICTS WHO WERE DOING THAT KIND OF PLANNING WERE GOING TO CONTINUE ON THEIR PATH THAT THEY WERE ALREADY ON THAT IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN PART OF PLANNING ALL THOSE THINGS TO CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT MAY DELAY PULLING THE TRIGGER FOR WHEN YOU ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION THOSE KIND OF THINGS BASED ON WHAT YOU

ACTUALLY SEE AFTER COVID YEAR. >> BUT THEY WERE NOT WANTING TO DEVIATE OFF THE PATH THAT THEY ALL FELT LIKE THIS YOU KNOW, AN ANOMALY A YEAR HOPEFULLY JUST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO DEPENDING ON HOW THE VACCINE YOU KNOW HOW ALL THAT WORKS. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M

SEEING FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS. >> THEY WERE CONTINUE COURSE FOR PLANNING AND THEN YOU KNOW, AGAIN YOU CAN DELAY CONSTRUCTION FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WITHOUT IT COST TOO MUCH MONEY WHICH IS ALWAYS BETTER.

YOU KNOW, I'LL KIND OF ECHO THAT TOO, CAROL. >> FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT I DO, I WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT TRACKS K12 CAPITAL PROJECTS NATIONWIDE.

WE'VE SEEN THAT NATIONWIDE THAT A LOT OF DISTRICTS ARE NOT OUTRIGHT CANCELING, YOU KNOW, PLANNING. IT'S JUST KIND OF A LOT MORE MEASURED IN WHICH YOU PULL THAT TRIGGER. SO I WOULD ECHO THOSE THAT YOU TALKED TO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING NATIONWIDE AS WELL FOR THAT DATA.

>> IF WE DO IF THE VACCINE WORKS AND PEOPLE ARE FEELING CONFIDENT AND DECIDE TO SEND THEIR STUDENTS BACK, WE MAY SEE A HUGE REBOUND. AND IF WE DELAYED EVERYTHING AND DIDN'T DO ANY KIND OF PLANNING IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL BE EVEN FURTHER BEHIND THAN YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE FEELING LIKE WE WERE IN THE SPRING.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A POLITICAL ASPECT TO THIS AND THAT IS CREDIBILITY.

AND IF YOU JUST IGNORE A PROBLEM AND SHOW GROWTH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAMMERED BY THE

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THE TRUE DATA IS SUCH AND SUCH . SO I WOULD JUST HAVE A COLUMN JUST ANOTHER COLUMN. IT'S A OUR PROJECTIONS ARE JUST AS YOU WOULD DO IF THERE WASN'T

COVERED AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A COVERED NO. >> SO YOU COULD SAY IN YOUR VERBIAGE THAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT THIS IS THE DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW.

WE STILL FEEL THAT ULTIMATELY THESE PROJECTS SHINS ARE GOING TO BE WHAT WE NEED IS AS LONG AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND YOU DON'T SEE IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING IF YOU BREAK YOUR HABITS OF NOT PROVIDING THIS SAME DOCUMENT AT THE SAME TIME OF THE YEAR AND YOU SAY WELL WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S MORE FAVORABLE FOR US. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL SAY. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN PACKAGE THIS SO THAT YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE CURRENT REALITY AND THEN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION AND CAN CHALLENGE THE ASSUMPTION.

THAT'S FINE. BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S JUST THAT AN ASSUMPTION BUT IT DOESN'T LOCK YOU INTO THE LOW NUMBERS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS POLITICAL FOLKS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL IN THE AREA AND

WE CAN'T THROW THAT AWAY. >> THAT'S GOT TO BE. THAT'S GOT TO BE THERE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE CURRENT REALITY AND IT MAY IT MAY HOLD OFF BUILDING THAT

SCHOOL FOR A YEAR OR DOING THE PLANNING TO BUILD IT. >> BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED ONE THEIR EVENTUALLY AND THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

SO WE JUST PACKAGE IT THAT WAY TO SHOW IT. BUT IF YOU JUST IGNORE IT WHEN YOU IGNORE THEY MAKE NEGATIVE ASSUMPTIONS AND THE NEGATIVE ASSUMPTION IS YOU'RE HIDING SOMETHING YOU'RE AT. YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN. THAT DISTRICT IS DOING IT AGAIN. THEY'RE HIDING THE FACTS. WE DON'T WANT TO HIDE THE FACTS GIVE THE FACTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THAT ADDING THE I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH YOU, COLONEL AND CAROL. NO, I'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. AND TO YOUR POINT OF THE POLITICAL SIDE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE OFF AS FAR AS WE MIGHT BE IF WE USE THIS DATA. SO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS REALLY GIVING THE RANGE LIKE YOU HAVE YOU KNOW WHERE COHEN WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHOUT COBURN.

AND QUITE FRANKLY WHERE WE THINK WE ARE IT'S SOMEWHERE IN HERE WE'RE IN BETWEEN.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN BETWEEN BUT IT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE TWO AND IT MAY BE QUITE A LARGE RANGE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S THE DATA WE HAVE.

AND THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED EVENT. WE DON'T HAVE A HISTORY TO SAY IN THE PAST IT'S DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. ANYTHING YOU SAY IS REALLY GUESSING. THE ONE THING WE DO KNOW IS WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE OUR COVID PROJECTIONS ARE BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE TOO LOW.

WE ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE WE'RE PAST PROJECTIONS ARC THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO HIGH. IT'S THE IT'S THE THREE LITTLE BEARS THING WE'RE GOING TO HOW

WE GET JUST RIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW. >> YOU JUST SHOW IT THAT WE SHOW IT THAT IF YOU SHOW NOTHING I GUARANTEE YOU THEY'LL SAY YOU'RE HIDING SOMETHING.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I THINK THAT WHATEVER PROJECTIONS AND INFORMATION THAT WE PUT THIS YEAR, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THIS YEAR.

BUT THESE NUMBERS AND THESE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE PUT IN THE NEXT BOOK, IT'S LIKELY GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT FOR A COUPLE YEARS. SO THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE A MODEL THAT'S ESTABLISHED THIS YEAR. OK.

THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT AND THEN LIKE YOU KNOW, MR. STRIP LIKES TO SAY OUR LESSONS LEARNED WHEN WE MADE THOSE PROJECTIONS. OK, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT AND APPLY THAT NEXT YEAR? MR. SMITH, I SEE YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

>> OUR DEFINITELY WE'RE THE THOUGHT THAT ALL THAT MR. GARCIA THAT'S DEFINITELY PUT IT OUT THAT THAT INFORMATION OUR REGARDS TO HOW IT LOOKS AND DOESN'T PUT THE PUT THE TROOP

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BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL IN BUSINESS SCHOOL BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE TWO LARGE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.

MAYBE IT COULD BE THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO ADD ON TO ONE OR TWO SCHOOLS AND THEN THAT MAY PUT US WHERE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. SO I MEAN SO I THINK THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE CURRENT AND MAYBE NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT JUST A WAY THAT WITH THE WAY IT IS DO THE BASIC REAL FACTS SO THAT THAT THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. SOMETHING THAT IN RESPONSE TO THAT SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMITTEE'S BEEN WORKING ON AND HAVE CONDUCTED IS DONE TOURS OF ALL THE BLUFFTON FACILITIES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS THE CAPABILITY TO ADD ONTO THOSE SCHOOL'S AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'LL BE PROVIDING IN MY INTERIM REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH THAT WE'VE GONE INTO AT LOOKING AT THAT

POTENTIAL OPTION. >> THANK YOU. I'LL BE ALSO THE NO OTHER HANDS

ARE RAISED. >> SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS CAN I THINK WE KIND

[Discussion on Projections during COVID Year]

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? DO WE WANT TO PROVIDE MR. AUDITING OR MISS CRUTCHFIELD WITH ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON THAT OR DO YOU ALL PLAN TO

BRING THAT QUESTION AS WELL TO THE FULL BOARD WHEN WE CAN? >> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WINDOW START WORKING ON IT AS FAR AS THE FULL BOARD. THE NEXT FULL BOARD I THINK WHEN YOU'LL DO YOUR REPORT WILL BE THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY SINCE USUALLY THAT FIRST MEETING IS JUST THE INDUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS. SO IT'LL BE A.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET ON IT. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WAIT AROUND UNTIL THAT NEXT BOARD MEETING. I MEAN WE'LL BE WELL INTO HAVING THE BOOK MAYBE NOT FINISHED BY THEN BUT WHAT KNOW? WELL ON THE WAY BUT THEN AGAIN BECAUSE THIS YEAR 45 DAY JUST KICKED US YOU KNOW, A MONTH FURTHER.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THAT BOOK. OTHER THAN JUST THE ENROLLMENT FEES AS FAR AS THE LONG TERM CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE FOR THAT. SO I THAT BOOK IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO COME ON TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT THAT THAT DATA

HAS ON OUR DECISIONS AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD. >> AGREED THEN MOLLY I THINK WE

[Discussion of Future Agenda Topics]

IS THAT CORRECT? >> RIGHT. WE DO.

OK. >> YOU WANT TO HAVE THE MEETING BEFORE THAT BEFORE THAT MEETING

CAN AFFORD TO. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING SO THAT I CAN GO OVER KIND OF MY INTERIM REPORT WHAT I HAD PLANNED TO BRING TO THE FULL BOARD.

>> SO IS EVERYBODY OK WITH MOVING IT TO THE 14TH? >> OK, SO JANUARY 14TH IS THAT I DON'T I'M I CAN'T GIVE YOU MY CALENDAR IS A THURSDAY OR WEDNESDAY.

OK, AT 4:00 P.M.. THANK MIGHT HAVE FINANCE. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO STAY ON THE SAME DAYS. I DON'T THINK I BELIEVE BECAUSE I'M ON FINANCE AND WE JUST HAVE. AND SO AS BUYER AND I THINK WE JUST HAD OUR LAST MEETING I BELIEVE RECONSTITUTED LIKELY. SO I THINK ONLY THE AD HOC COMMITTEES AND ANY COMMITTEES THAT HAD PRESSING WORK LIKE THE POLICY COMMITTEE ARE STILL

MEETING ACADEMICS. SO MEETING. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO THE 14 SAME TIME FOR 4 P.M.. NO. SO ONE OF THE TOPICS WOULD BE

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THERE WERE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE

MIGHT HAVE FOR TONYA AND ROBERT THAT THEY WERE LOOKING INTO. >> I SPOKE WITH TONYA EARLIER.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS ASKED US SOME QUESTIONS AND SHE DID GET THEM THE ANSWERS AND THEN THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION SINCE THEN.

AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS NOT TAKEN ANY FURTHER ACTION.

SO IT'S KIND OF BACK AT A YEAH. >> I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR NO. REGARDING THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS IN THAT RESPONSE THAT WAS SENT TO THE TOWN FROM WHAT I RECALL WE ASKED IF THAT LIST WAS FINITE AND THAT HAD TO BE THE LAST OR IF THERE WAS OTHER AND SHE WAS GOING TO BE CHECKING INTO THAT. I THINK AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE STICK THAT YOU CAN THINK OF ?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AGAIN THE ATTENDANCE ISSUES AND HOW WHAT KIND OF STRATEGY SHOULD BE INITIATED TO RESOLVE ULTIMATE ATTENDANCE ZONE DEVELOPMENT ITS OWN ISSUES SLAP

SLASH RESOLUTION PLUS RESOLUTION. >> THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A POSITIVE WAY TO PUNISH.

YES, YES. YES. OKAY.

THAT'LL PROBABLY BE A GOOD DISCUSSION THEN THE INTERIM REPORT WILL PROBABLY BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND OVERVIEW JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW FOR THAT.

THAT'LL BE THE FIRST MEETING THAT OUR NEW MEMBERS WILL BE AT AS WELL.

SO. SO ROBERT, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING OR JUST IF YOU WANTED US TO GO AHEAD AND LINE UP BY THE NO THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE THEM WORKING ON THAT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO INVITE

THEM TO THIS MEETING? >> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW RIGHT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING TO THAT NEXT MEETING AND ANY MORE INFORMATION WE COULD HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION

WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> SO I MEAN I GUESS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE MOST PART JUST EIS THEODOR OF PORT ON DATA OF STUDENTS THAT HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE AND WHAT THEIR ABILITY TO EVEN GATHER DATA BECAUSE IF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED AWAY WE MAY

ONLY BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT THEY MOVED TO COLORADO. >> YOU KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT COMING BACK. THAT WAS ONE DAY HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT MAYBE WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET MORE INFORMATION. BUT YEAH, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN HAVE AT LEAST

TALK ABOUT IT AS YOU WANTED THEM TO SURVEY. >> THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR ABILITIES ARE TO SERVICE RIGHT THAT THEY MIGHT BE WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE GREAT.

THANK YOU, ROBERT. YEAH. SO I ASKED THE WOULD BE COMING TO DISCUSS DATA POINTS RELATIVE TO STUDENT LOSS. SO IF YOU WOULD.

COULD YOU TELL ME BASICALLY WHAT WAS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE TAKING WITH WITH ICD AND GETTING GETTING THIS BASICALLY AGAIN AND GETTING THE BALL AT THE BORROWED PRESSURE? SO WE MADE THAT WE HAD THE MOTION TODAY AND OUR MEETING THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD SUPERINTENDENT CONDUCTED A SURVEY.

THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION EARLIER ON IN THE MEETING THAT ISG WAS TRYING TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION ABOUT STUDENTS THAT HAD LEFT THE SYSTEM AND OBVIOUSLY I HAVE KNOWS WHAT THEIR CAPABILITIES ARE AND THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE SOME SOME DATA TO REPORT.

THEY'RE JUST NOT HERE TODAY. AND SO I TRIED TO GATHER MORE OF THAT INFORMATION AT THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING SO THAT I CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATIONS. BOARD MEETING THAT QUESTION.

>> YES, IT'S ALL A BUBBLE. BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AX ANY OTHER ACTION MOVIE FOR ALL

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WE ONLY HAD THE ONE MOTION OF . OK. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. SO SEEING NO OTHER FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED

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