Dec 07, 2020 Community Services Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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DECEMBER 7TH WE BEGINNING BE WE WILL BEGIN AT 3:00 15. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS BEEN MADE.

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

>> SARAH CAN CONFIRM THAT? >> YEAH. THANK YOU.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN IN A SECOND. I'D SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK. I WILL MOVE THAT ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS MOTION HEARING? NONE.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> THE SET IN MOTION. THANK YOU, HOWARD. I WILL MOVE THIS ALONG AGAIN WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS? HEARING NONE THE MINUTES FROM

[6. CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR ANNUAL BIBLIOTHECA SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE/EXTENDED WARRANTY AGREEMENT FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARIES.]

ENTAILS? >> THE THOMAS WITH US MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK AMANDA DICKMAN WITH THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS. OKAY.

>> I'LL BE FINE. AMANDA, WOULD YOU PROCEED PLEASE?

>> SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DID THINK THAT MR. THOMAS WAS GOING TO PRESENT. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT AN ANNUAL CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR? THE TOTAL IS FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR DOLLARS.

THIS IS TO THE VENDOR BIBLICAL . AND IT COVERS ABOUT 64 PIECES OF HARDWARE THAT THE COUNTY ORIGINALLY ACQUIRED IN 2013. SO THIS ENABLES US TO DO OUR CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT AUTOMATED AND THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO CONTINUE THE

COUNTY'S INVESTMENT INTO THIS EQUIPMENT. >> OKAY.

MR. TAYLOR, IS THIS AMOUNT SUFFICIENT TO BE APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE OR DOES IT HAVE

TO GO FURTHER TO COUNCIL? >> IT IS 57 THOUSAND FIFTY SEVEN IT ONLY IT ONLY IF I MAY

. >> CARDIN ONLY REQUIRES COMMITTEE APPROVAL SINCE IT'S LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND . CORRECT.

>> CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, MR. DICKMAN. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE RENEWAL OF THIS CONTRACT FROM ANYONE WHO IS ATTENDING THIS MEETING?

>> HEARING NONE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS

CONTRACT. >> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO APPROVE THE

CONTRACT. >> AND SECOND, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MISS HOWARD. I WILL MOVE THIS ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION IS RUNNING TAKES

EXCEPTION TO APPROVING THIS MOTION. >> HEARING ON THIS MOTION IS APPROVED. THANK YOU, MR. ACKERMAN. APPRECIATE IT.

[7. RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION AN ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICER TO ENFORCE BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCES]

>> THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN THE RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION AN ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICER TO ENFORCE BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCES. CARL FOOT, ARE YOU HERE AND PRESENT? I MEAN PRESENT ACCOUNTED FOR. I'M PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR, SIR.

>> CAN WE HEAR FROM YOU ON THIS MATTER? YES, SIR.

I'M A REAL BRAVE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION ONE OF OUR ANIMALS, SIR, SO THAT THEY CAN ENFORCE THE BEE COUNTY ANIMAL. SO IS WITH DUE FOR COUNTY.

AND THIS IS STATUTORY GRANTED BY FOUR DASH NINE DASH ONE FORTY FIVE OF THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA. THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE HAVE IS THEM WITH US FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. HE STARTED OUT AS A KENNEL TECH.

HE IS NOW OUR LEAD KENNEL TECH. E SORT OF A DOG WHISPERER WHEN IT COMES TO PIT BULLS.

HE'S SORT OF FEARLESS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PIT BULLS. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS UP FRONT. AS AN ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICERS YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ANIMALS THAT ARE STRAY AND MAY BE AGGRESSIVE. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO HAVE TREVOR HAVE EIGHT. I'M SORRY TREVOR HAYWARD IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED AS ONE OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICERS AND WE NEED THIS RESOLUTION APPROVED AND PUSH FORWARD TO

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FULL COUNCIL OR THEIR APPROVAL, SIR. >> TERRY, YOU'RE A MUTE.

SO THIS IS A NEW POSITION FOR MR. HAYWARD. IT'LL BE A NEW POSITION FOR HIM. IT'S ONE OF OUR OPEN POSITIONS. WE HAD LOST A ANIMAL SERVICE OR

THEY HAD MOVED TO ANOTHER JOB. WE'RE REPLACING IT, SIR. >> MR. HAYWARD HERE AND THE

MEETING TODAY OR NOT? >> HE WAS OUT IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW.

OK. >> SO I WOULD BE SEEKING A MOTION TO SPONSOR THIS

RESOLUTION. >> SO MOVEMENT'S CHAIRMAN AND A SECOND PLACE.

I'LL SECOND THIS JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD MOVE THIS ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION. IS THERE ANYONE TAKE EXCEPTION TO THIS RESOLUTION? NO, I DON'T. BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK COLONEL FOOT A QUESTION HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? AND HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE LEFT OPEN?

>> CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR POSITIONS. WE WILL HAVE ONE MORE POSITION

TO FILL. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?

MR. DAWSON SORRY. >> MR. DAWSON. CAN YOU NO.

OK. SO I DID. OK.

OK. THAT HAPPENS TO ME AT AUCTIONS ALL THE TIME.

I BUY THINGS I DON'T WANT. OK. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS APPOINTMENT AND THIS RESOLUTION HEARING? NONE. THIS RESOLUTION WILL BE APPROVED AND MR. FOOTE, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND OUR CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. HAYWARD AND WELCOME HIM TO EMPLOYMENT IN THAT POSITION WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

JUST REMEMBER THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS COMING TO COURT WHEN I WAS A JUDGE AND THE GREAT WORK THEY DO THERE. SOMETIMES JURIES WORK BUT THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.

AH, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. NOW I'LL SEE IF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR LET ME PUT THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. I'LL TRY AND GET A PICTURE

OF MR. HAYWARD SO THAT WE CAN PUT UP. >> OKAY.

[8. RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION GRANT FUNDING]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT THE RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION GRANT FUNDING AND I KNOW THAT. LET ME SEE WHO IS HERE FOR THAT.

THAT'S ME AND BETHANY. YEAH. I DON'T I DON'T SEE YOU ON HERE. OH, I WANT THAT. OK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING. AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM

YOU ON THIS MATTER. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

THIS IS OUR ANNUAL APPLICATION TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FTA FUNDING. PART OF THE FTA FUNDING REQUIRES THAT OUR GOVERNING BOARD SIGN OFF THAT THE CERTIFICATES AND ASSURANCES WILL BE PROPERLY FOLLOWED AND THAT REQUIRES A RESOLUTION TO GO TO COUNCIL THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THESE STANDARD RULES AND REGULATIONS OF USING FEDERAL FUNDS FEDERAL FUNDS.

SO WE ARE PRESENTING THIS TO YOU TODAY. >> OK.

THANK ANY QUESTIONS. WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER IF NOT I'LL BE SEEKING A MOTION TO START THIS RESOLUTION TO DELIVER THE COUNCIL. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A

MOTION TO INITIATE THIS RESOLUTION. >> THANK YOU, MISS HOWARD.

I WILL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU, MR. PARSIMONY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? BEARING NO DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION. DOES ANYONE TAKE EXCEPTION TO MOVING THIS ALONG HEARING NONE.

THIS MATTER WILL BE MOVED ALONG AS A RESOLUTION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF FULL COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS CODY. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[9. DISCUSSION OF NOISE ORDINANCE 2020/36.]

NICE AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER NINE WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE JUST AS A PRELIMINARY INTRODUCTION.

I KNOW THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HERE WHO ARE JOINING US RIGHT THIS MINUTE ON THIS MATTER NOT I'M GETTING FEEDBACK FEEDBACK IF ANYONE IS NOT GOING TO BE TALKING TO TALKING IF YOU WOULD PLEASE IMMEDIATELY A MICROPHONE. MICROPHONE. IT'S HAPPENING FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAYS OK, OK, I'M GETTING I'M GETTING GETTING FEEDBACK.

THE SHERIFF IS THE SHERIFF SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE'RE ON MUTE.

MUTE. I'M NOT ALL OK. I'LL WHAT I'LL GET TO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR GOING MUTE. I'M JUST GOING TO DO SOME INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS AND THEN

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CONSIDERATION FOR A CONVICTION . >> SO THE ORDINANCE WAS REVISITED AND IT WAS REPLACED BY ANOTHER ORDINANCE THAT WAS PREPARED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE USING OTHER MODELS IN THE STATE AND INCLUDING LANGUAGE THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ENFORCE THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND FOR A MAGISTRATE TO CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE AND REACH A DECISION IN A MATTER INVOLVING A CHARGE FOR VIOLATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE. WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH REGARD TO THE NEW ORDINANCE IS TO REMOVE THE SOURCE OF NOISE AND SIMPLY CONSIDER THE NOISE LEVEL. WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED VERY SPECIFIC NOISE LEVELS DECIBEL LEVELS. ANY LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE AT THE 50 DECIBEL LEVEL FOR NIGHTTIME HOURS AND THE 70 DECIBEL LEVEL FOR DAYTIME HOURS.

WE ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED TIMEFRAMES WHERE VIOLATIONS WOULD OCCUR AT EACH OF THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS WHICH IS ELEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR 7:00 IN THE MORNING FOR THE 50 DECIBELS AND

7:00 IN THE MORNING TO 11:00 AT NIGHT WHERE THE 70 DECIBELS. >> SO OUR INTENTION IS TO CONSIDER TODAY THAT PLACEMENT ORDINANCE AND REACH A CONSENSUS ON THE CONTENTS OF THE LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT IT GOES FORWARD AND TO SATISFY EVERY WAY AND IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE NEW ORDINANCE THERE WILL BE LANGUAGE CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF THAT WILL REAP PEEL THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WHEN THIS ORDINANCE REACHES THE THIRD READING.

SO THIS ORDINANCE WILL TAKE OVER FROM THE OLD ORDINANCE AND IT WILL OCCUR AT THE VERY SAME

TIME WHEN THIS ORDINANCE IS INSTITUTED. >> THE OTHER ONE WILL BE REPEALED. NOW WE HAVE THE AUTHORS OF THE ORDINANCE HERE AS REFERENCE POINTS AND SOURCES OF INFORMATION AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HERE AS WELL WHO WE'VE INVITED TO ATTEND SO THAT WE CAN GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS SO WE CAN BUILD THAT CONSENSUS AND MOVE THIS OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. SO IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS NEW ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW WRITTEN, I WOULD

INVITE THEM TO DO SO AT THIS TIME. >> I DON'T I'M NOT GETTING ANYONE OFFERING ANY SUGGESTIONS OR OBSERVATIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS.

>> SO AM I ASSUMING THEN THAT ALL IS WELL WITH THIS WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THIS ORDINANCE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE ORDINANCE AS AS FAR AS IS WRITTEN WRITTEN.

>> YEAH, WE HAVE THAT ECHO AGAIN. >> YES, SURE.

>> SHERIFF TANNER, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, YOU CAN HEAR. WOULD YOU JUST WHEN YOU DO YOUR MICROPHONE UNTIL YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK, MR. PARSIMONY SHERIFF MR. CHAIRMAN, LOOK WHO'S THAT? MR. SUMMERVILLE, THERE'S SOME

REAL JET. >> JUST A MINUTE. IS THIS REAL? MR. PRESIDENT, YOU WERE SPEAKING. YEAH.

SO I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE THERE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. I KNOW THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER THIS MORNING WHERE THE SHERIFF HAS COMMENTED ABOUT CHANGING POSSIBLY THE TIMES OF THE ORDINANCE AND A COST FIGURE FOR THE DECIBEL METERS. I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INPUT FROM HIM BECAUSE THAT WILL THEN REQUIRE US TO SEND THIS INFORMATION OVER TO FINANCE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE IS A FINANCIAL IMPLICATE ACTION FOR AN ITEM THAT IS NOT BUDGETED FOR. ALL RIGHT. WE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SO.

OK. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND I'M WAITING THE SHERIFF TO WEIGH IN. OK, MR. SUMMERVILLE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> YES. I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT BECAUSE HERE THERE ARE SOME DEAD AIR. YOU'RE ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL.

BUT I READ THE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE AND I'M FINE WITH I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF'S INPUT

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SHERIFF TANNER. >> IF YOU WOULD ACTIVATE YOUR MICROPHONE AND WE WILL DEACTIVATE ALL EYES AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE ANY

ECHOES. >> ECHOES HOPEFULLY EVERYONE COULD HEAR ME, LARRY, IF YOU CAN. IF YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, WOULD YOU? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN BASICALLY REDRAFTED. IT CONCENTRATES ON WHAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IT WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND IT'S LOUD, NOXIOUS, UNNECESSARY EXCESSIVE NOISE PERIOD.

AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE TITLE WHICH QUITE FRANKLY OTHER THAN MAYBE ONE WORD IS I THINK THE ORDINANCES EASY BASED ON WHAT'S WRITTEN. AS FAR AS THE LANGUAGE IS EASY TO ENFORCE. BUT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMATIC ISSUES WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THAT WOULD BE THE DECIBEL READINGS THEMSELVES.

WE DID SOME RESEARCH COLONEL HORTON HERE WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND HE'S DOING SOME RESEARCH ON NOISE METERS AND HOW THOSE NOISE METERS OPERATE AND THE DECIBEL LEVELS AND IT'S PRETTY SHOCKING TO FIND WHAT THOSE LEVELS ARE AND HOW WE TAKE THOSE NOISE LEVELS AND APPLY THOSE NOISE LEVELS TO AN ORDINANCE FOR ENFORCEMENT IS KIND OF COMPLICATED RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE SOME OF THE NOISE LEVELS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM A COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY MAKES METERS NOISE METERS AND THEN APPLYING THAT TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH NOT RECOMMENDATION ON THE ORDINANCE THAT WE CHANGE THE TIMES I THINK INITIALLY I HAD RECOMMENDED THE TIMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE BUT I THINK BASED ON SOME OF THE NOISE LEVELS THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND THE TIMES AND KNOWING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT ALLOW AT 7 A.M. THEY ALLOW LANDSCAPE GROUPS COME IN AND START DOING LANDSCAPING FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BUILDERS OR ALLOW THE STARTUP OR TABLE SALES SKILLS FALLS AT 7:00 A.M. SO.

AND I ALSO NOI KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO START ENJOYING THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY OF THEIR HOME. EARLIER 9/11 SO MY RECOMMENDATIONS TIMES WERE 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. AND THEN 10 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. WOULD BE THAT TIMESCALE SCHEDULE.

BUT AS WE'RE TALKING ACCORDING TO NOISE LEVELS, NORMAL CONVERSATION, BACKGROUND MUSIC IS 60 DECIBELS 60 DPD AND THAT'S NORMAL CONVERSATION AND WE DON'T GET INTO REALLY HAVING SOME NOISES THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO ON THIS UNTIL WE GET ACCORDING TO THEIR CHART, UNTIL WE GET TO MAYBE A A LEAF BLOWER TO THE POINT A MOTOR CYCLE TO THE POINT OF AN EMERGENCY SIREN TO FIRECRACKER NOISE WHICH IS UP. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE ACCORDING TO THIS CHART A AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE SIREN IS AT RIGHT AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DPA.

SO THAT WOULD BE A DECIBEL READING OR SIREN AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN A A BLENDER IS THAT 80 RIGHT AT 90 DB. AND I MEAN THAT I GIVE YOU THESE BECAUSE THESE SORT OF CHARTS THAT ARE SET TO BE AND A DISHWASHER DEPENDS ON IF YOU I GUESS YOU'RE IN THE KITCHEN A DISHWASHER IN YOUR HOME IS IT 70 BPA. SO I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT AND I'M USING THESE CHARTS HERE AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL I THINK NOW FIREWORKS TRIAL CRACKERS OR FIREARMS IF YOU WILL. THOSE THOSE REGISTERS ARE AT ONE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE DPA AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE IT SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT AS LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, UNNECESSARY OR EXCESSIVE NOISE AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A CONNECTION WITH THIS ORDINANCE FOR DAYTIME USE AND NIGHTTIME USE.

I'M JUST NOT SURE LARRY AT THIS POINT WHAT RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE ON WHAT THE NOISE LEVEL

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SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE CHARTS FROM THESE COMPANIES AND GIVEN THE INFORMATION THEY'RE GIVING US THAT I CAN ONLY SEE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE OUT OF THE AUDIENCE THE ACTUAL DECIBEL READING NO. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY TAKE THIS AND USE ALL SORT OF DISCRETION BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW THAT COMPANIES TELL ON US OR COMPARE US FOR SOUND LEVELS AND USE DISCRETION ON HOW WE ENFORCE IT. USING A DECIBEL METER AND COMPARING DECIBEL METER TO A COMPARISON CHART TO INCLUDE THE BODY CAM AUDIO VIDEO OR THE DASH CAM AUDIO VIDEO OUT OF OUR PATROL CARS ORDERED OUT OF COURSE BY THE CABINET OFFICERS WEARING TO LOOK AT THE ENFORCEMENT. I THINK THE TIME US DECIDING WHAT THE TIMES SHOULD BE IS SOMETHING THAT'S RELEVANT BUT I WISH I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW BASED RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE ACTUAL DECIBEL OR NOISE LEVELS THAT ONE OR PRETTY AMAZING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR CHART AND WHAT RECOMMENDATION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE. ALLEN DID SOME RESEARCH AND HE ALSO REACHED OUT TO SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE AND OUT OF SOUTH CAROLINA TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DECIBEL READINGS THEY USE AND HOW WOULD THAT ACTUALLY IMPACTS OR APPLY THE ENFORCEMENT OF THEIR ORDINANCE.

AND WE HAVEN'T GOT ENOUGH FOR THAT DATA BACK TO GIVE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER TO GIVE YOU AS FAR AS WHAT A RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ON A NOISE LEVEL AT NIGHTTIME VERSUS A NOISE LEVEL DURING THE DAY AND IT DEFINITELY HAS TO BE A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THAT IS. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

THEY'VE GOT HEAVY TRAFFIC WINDOW AIR CONDITIONER NOISE, RESTAURANT POWER, LAWN MOWER.

THEY'VE GOT THAT BETWEEN 80 AND 90 DECIBELS AND YOU KNOW AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ROUTINELY HERE AND ARE ASSOCIATED WITH DURING THE DAY TO AND THEY ALSO SAY THAT SOUNDS ABOUT 85 B.B. HOME FOR THE HEARING IF YOU'RE EXPOSED TO IT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME BOOMBOX ALTERING VEHICLE OR A MOTORCYCLE THAT GOT THAT AT A DECIMAL NOISE LEVEL AT NINETY

SIX TO 100. >> AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE OF TARGETED TO SOME EXTENT WERE THESE AFTERMARKET MUFFLERS ON SOMEBODY OF THESE CARS MAYBE MOTORCYCLES, FIREWORKS, OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT CREATE A LOT OF NOISE BUT A CHAINSAW SO A LEAF BLOWER AND A SNOWMOBILE IS WHAT THEY USE IN A REFERENCE ASSET.

ONE HUNDRED SIX TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN DDA, YOU KNOW AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 70 TVA MAYBE THE DAY AND 50 TVA AT NIGHT AND 50 TBA ACCORDING TO HER CHART IS AVERAGE HOME NOISE . SO WHEN I LOOK AT THEIR CHART AND I LOOK AT WHAT A 50 TVA REPRESENTS, IT'S A BIRD CALL OR A STREAM AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

>> I MEAN IT'S THESE NOISES, THE NOISE LEVELS THAT I'M GETTING FOR COMPARISON ALL OVER THE BOARD SO I JUST DON'T GET IT. OK.

COULD YOU JUST A CHRIS HERE IS YOUR MICROPHONE, SHARON. >> WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK WHEN IT'S ON AND WE'LL JUST LISTEN FOR A FEW MINUTES AND IF YOU COULD JUST KEEP NOTE OF WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE YOU PLEASE NOT CLEAR WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE

THAT WE'RE ASKING THEN COME BACK ON. >> JUST I SEE SOME HANDS UP.

BUT BEFORE WE START THAT THE THIS IS THIS IS NOT A DIRECTED AT NOISES THAT OCCUR WITHIN A

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YOU HAVE A QUESTION NOW. >> THANK YOU, SHERIFF. I THINK THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL . I APPRECIATE THAT. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE WE GOT STARTED ON THIS PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE AFTER MARKET MUFFLERS.

IS THERE SOME SORT OF ONE WAY OR SOME SORT OF A RESOURCE THAT WE COULD UTILIZE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DECIMAL IS AND THEN TAILOR THIS ORDINANCE TO THAT SPECIFICALLY?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I WOULD HAVE TO ASK A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEYS OFFICE WHO HAVE USED CHARTS IN CREATING THOSE LEVELS AND THEY MADE A LOT OF SENSE WHEN I REVIEWED THEM AND I THINK THEY'RE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL. I THINK SOME OF THEM MIGHT EVEN BE CONTRADICTORY TO THE REPORTS THAT THE SHERIFF HAS. BUT AT THE SHERIFF'S MAY BE MORE RECENT AND MAYBE USING MORE SENSITIVE INSTRUMENTS. SO MR. TERRILL, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU COULD HELP US OUT WITH HERE. YES, SIR. CERTAINLY THE SHERIFF MAKES EXCELLENT POINTS. THE THE MEASURING AND LIMITING OF NOISE IN COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY VARIES WIDELY . THE DECIBEL LEVELS ARE DIFFERENT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING OF A MORE OF A RURAL AREA VERSUS IN A DENSE URBAN AREA.

FOR EXAMPLE, I LOOKED AT CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA'S ORDINANCE AND IT'S VERY DETAILED CONCLUDE INCLUDES SOME REFERENCES TO TO LAND USE IS THAT IT HAS ZONING CATEGORIES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF NOISE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE OFFENSIVE RATHER THAN OTHERS. THE 70 AND 50 DECIBEL NUMBERS COME FROM OTHER ORDINANCES AND IN NEARBY AREAS AT LEAST ROUGHLY. BERKELEY COUNTY'S ORDINANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS 70 DECIBEL LIMIT AND IN THE DAY TIMES SIX TO 10 A.M. 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.

EXCUSE ME AS THE SHERIFF HAS SUGGESTED 75 DECIBELS IN A NON RESIDENTIAL AREA AT 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. SO THE DECIBEL NUMBERS ARE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ARRIVED AT WITH A GOOD BIT OF THOUGHT. I THINK THE SHERIFFS ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN RESEARCHING OTHER PLACES AND LOOKING AT WHAT EXPERTS HAVE TO SAY MR. HER ON TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION THE THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WAS VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED ON BASICALLY MOBILE SOURCES OF NOISE. IT WAS VERY, VERY, VERY DETAILED AND WELL DONE IN ITS FOCUS AND WHAT IT WAS FOCUSING ON WHICH IS MOBILE SOURCES. THIS ORDINANCE IS MUCH MORE BROAD. IT APPLIES TO BOTH MOBILE AND STATIONARY SOURCES AND ONCE AGAIN TO THE SHERIFF'S EXCELLENT POINT. THE DISCRETION OF THE THE THE ENFORCING OFFICER COMES TREMENDOUSLY INTO PLAY WHICH IT SHOULD.

IN THESE SITUATIONS BECAUSE A NOISE THAT'S OBNOXIOUS IN ONE AREA IN ONE CONTEXT IS NOT GOING TO BE OBNOXIOUS AND AN UNSEEMLY IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT SUCH AS CONSTRUCTION SITE VERSUS GOLF COURSE SO AS TO HAVE A. YES, IT'S POSSIBLE.

BUT THIS ORDINANCE I THINK IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO FOCUSES BECAUSE IT'S MORE GENERAL.

>> YEAH AND I AGREE ARE ALSO CAUSE US TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME SEEKING OUT AND ENUMERATING EXCEPTIONS TO ALL OF THESE THINGS WHEN ONE CONSIDERS DECIBEL LEVEL AND SOURCE I'M SORRY DECIBEL LEVEL WITHOUT SAUCE JUST THE PRESENCE OF LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS OR EXCESSIVE NOISE. RIGHT SHERIFF? YEAH.

SORRY MISS HOWARD. YEAH SHERIFF. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS I GET ALL THESE QUESTIONS OFF THE FLOOR. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF'S COMMENTS AND I AGREE IT'S IT'S SO SUBJECTIVE. EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT AND ALSO WHEN YOU START MEASURED MEASURING DECIBELS DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT MACHINES THAT MEASURE MORE ACCURATELY THAN OTHERS FOR DECIBELS AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE SUBJECTIVE ACCORDING TO THE OFFICER AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE PENALTY FOR NIGHTTIME.

THE MARINE CORPS AND NAVY AND THE AIR FORCE USE THAT PENALTY FOR NIGHTTIME LIKE NIGHTTIME FLYING WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR NOISE ZONES. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AND I THINK WE'RE ON A BETTER TRACK BUT GETTING THERE MAY TAKE SOME TIME. OK. MR. PESSIMIST, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED. NUMBER ONE, WHATEVER WE PASS IF IT DOES IT SUPERSEDE ANY

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NO, SIR. OK. SO WE.

WE SAID IT FOR THE COUNTY. YES, SIR. QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS ON THE TIMING IF WE DO SIX A.M. TO 10 P.M. I CAN ASSURE YOU IN THOSE AREAS WHERE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON AND THERE IS LIGHT OUT YOU WILL HAVE BUILDING GOING ON X 6 A. M. IF WE HAVE 6 A.M. ALL OF YOUR LANDSCAPED COMPANIES WILL START AT 6:00 A. M. RATHER THAN 7 A.M. WITH THE LEAF BLOWERS AND THE MOWERS AND THE TRIMMERS. SO I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE TIMES THAT WE SET FOR THOSE. WELL I THINK IN GENERAL IN RESPONSE TO THAT MR. PARSIMONY I THINK THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WILL SET THE RESTRICTION ON WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND START TO DO WORK IN THOSE AREAS IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT CAN ESTABLISH THOSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE GOOD JUDGMENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS TO TELL THEIR LANDSCAPERS WHEN THEY CAN START.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT EXCEPT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR THE MOST PART I DON'T THINK WE'RE HEARING ANY COMPLAINTS. AND THE SHERIFF CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT LANDSCAPERS STARTING TOO EARLY AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION. I SUPPOSE THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE EVEN WHEN THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE WHO VIOLATE THEM. SHERIFF, YOU HAVE MADE SOME

COMMENTS ON ON THE QUESTIONS THAT'S BEEN RAISED. >> LARRY, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANY HOMEOWNERS OR ANY BUT IN THE CAMP.

>> ONLY ABOUT ABOUT LANDSCAPERS OR CONSTRUCTION A STARTING WORK BEFORE 7 A.M. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD RULE OR MOST BD THAT THEY DON'T ALLOW UNTIL 7:00 A.M. AND THEY NORMALLY TELL YOU TO SHUT IT DOWN 7 P.M.. SO THOSE THINGS ARE PRETTY REGULATED. SO I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT .

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THOUGH THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT NOISE THAT IT IS LOUD, OBNOXIOUS AND UNNECESSARY EXCESSIVE. I THINK IT HAS THERE HAS TO BE A REASONABLE CUT OF TIME AND THAT'S WHY I WENT BACK TO 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT 10:00 AT NIGHT. IF WE'RE GOING TO USE DECIBEL METERS AND DECIBELS AS AN ENFORCEMENT TOO AND WE STARTED ADDING OR ALLOWING A CERTAIN BBA IT DURING A DAY OR IN COMMERCE VERSUS A READING AT NIGHT. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT AND I WISH I HAD A BETTER ANSWER RIGHT NOW. WHAT DOES VBA SHOULD BE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE AND ONE OF THESE IS FROM THE HEARING HELP FOUNDATION RESEARCH CENTER AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE DECIBEL LEVELS OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE WORLD. QUICKLY THIS LET ME SHARE THAT FROM ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY VBA TO ONE SIXTY FIVE IS FIRECRACKERS AND SHOTGUN BLAST SHOTGUNS.

ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY DPA IS A JET TAKING OFF. SO IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND BEFORE AND YOU'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOUND OF FREEDOM BEFORE THEN YOU'VE LISTENED TO OUR JETS FROM THE AIR STATION THAT'S ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA ON WHAT 140 RANGE IS. AND IF YOU EVER BEEN AROUND AN AMBULANCE OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE OR FIRE TRUCK, WATCH OUT. I'M SURE YOU HAVE THAT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DPA AND THAT'S AT A HUNDRED FEET. SO ONE HUNDRED FEET.

HUNDRED AND TWENTY VBA SIREN FROM AN AMBULANCE OR A FIRETRUCK OR POLICE CAR A JACKHAMMER WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO EITHER A JACKHAMMER LARRY I KNOW YOU'D GONE TO A ROCK CONCERT SOMETIME. SO THAT'S 100 THAT'S 110 DPA BUT ON A SUBWAY PLATFORMS AT NINETY FIVE OKATIE HEAVY CITY TRAFFIC A SCHOOL GET CAFETERIA WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT'S AT EIGHTY FIVE AND THAT'S KIND OF THE RANGES FOR THOSE NOISES BUT I THINK I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THOSE VBA NUMBERS IN ORDER FOR US TO BE

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>> OK. COULD YOU COULD YOU YOURSELF PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER? THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK WE'LL SOLVE THE PROBLEM TODAY AND WE DON'T NEED TO BEAT IT TO DEATH DECIBEL LEVELS. IT OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. I'M NOT CONCERNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. IN FACT I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE CONSIDERING THE RURAL NATURE OF MOST OF THE COUNTY AND THE FACT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTEN NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS AFTER MIDNIGHT.

SO MOVING IT BACK FROM ELEVEN O'CLOCK TO 10:00 IS PROBABLY NOT A BAD CHOICE FROM SEVEN TO SIX I DON'T CONSIDER A BAD CHOICE. WELL WE CAN CERTAINLY AS WE CONSIDER DECIBEL LEVELS WE COULD CONSIDER THAT GOING FORWARD REMOVING THE SOURCE OF THE NOISE I THINK WAS IMPORTANT AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE TO SEE THAT STAND.

BUT SHERIFF, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN RELY UPON YOUR DEPARTMENT TO REACH A CONCLUSION SOMETIME SOON WITH REGARD TO THE LEVELS THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT YOUR OFFICERS CAN ENFORCE AND WHAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVE IN COURT WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE THROUGH YOUR BODY CAMS, YOUR AUTO CART, YOUR DASHBOARD CAMS AND YOUR DECIBEL METERS. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS TOPIC OUT WHAT YOUR YOUR ESTIMATE IS OF THE COST THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO DECIDE THE DECIBEL LEVEL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND THIS OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY TO GET YOU THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED SO THAT THIS NEW ORDINANCE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON CAN BE ENFORCED. SO IF YOU COULD PUT YOUR MICROPHONE BACK ON AND GIVE ME AN AS WELL AS I I APPRECIATE IT, LARRY.

I'VE GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAFF IT MYSELF. WE'RE GOING TO FIND A DECIMAL NUMBER THAT FITS DEEPER COUNTY . THANK YOU FOR PRETTY CONSIDERATION ALL THAT AND WE'LL FIND ONE THAT FITS IT ONE THAT'S ENFORCEABLE.

IT'S SAYING TO THE COST OF THE METERS SOMETHING THAT AT THIS POINT MY INTEREST IN THOSE METERS IS TO FIND ONE THAT'S RELIABLE. IT HAS SOME SCIENTIFIC ALIGNMENT TO ITS USE AND ALSO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF DEPUTIES THAT NEED TO HAVE THEM.

AND RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT NOT THE ENTIRE STAFF. I'M LOOKING AT TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE THAT WE'LL BE ANSWERING THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE AT ANY GIVEN TIME THAT NEED TO HAVE THE INSTRUMENTS THEY NEED TO EFFECTIVELY MAKE THE CASE IF ONE NEEDS TO BE MADE AND I CAN I CAN GET YOU A ROUND NUMBER ON THAT BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE WITH TWO HUNDRED FORTY FIVE PROBABLY AROUND THE FIFTY THOUSAND NO ORDER FOR ME TO

OUTFIT ALL ALL OF THOSE THAT WOULD BE USING DAILY. >> OK I'M GOING TO TO SEND THAT OVER TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR NEXT MEETING FOR SOME CONSIDERATION SO IF YOU COULD THAT'LL BE NEXT MONDAY SHERIFF IF YOU COULD HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE TWO HUNDRED FORTY FIVE PEOPLE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE MUCH THE WAY THEY WOULD HAVE A SIDEARM THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME ARGUMENTS MADE THAT IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT MANY OF THEM FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS PROGRAM.

SO I'M JUST PUTTING YOU ON NOTICE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF LET'S SAY ROUGHLY TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY UNITS THAT YOU THINK YOU NEED AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SEND THAT TO FINANCE BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE AND THERE'S 250 ARMED AT THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS WE'RE GONNA NEED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THESE ARE GOING TO COST BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT WE CAN PRESENT THAT FINANCE MR. HAVE A ASSURED OUR ROOM ON THE AGENDA

FOR THAT ON MONDAY WE'VE GOT A VERY FULL AGENDA ON MONDAY. >> I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T JUST WRAP THIS INTO THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. I MEAN WE'RE ALMOST THERE ANYWAY. WELL, NEXT YEAR IS SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE WITH THREE READINGS IN FEBRUARY, THAT LEAVES A BIT OF A GAP.

>> SO SOONER OR LATER SOONER THAN LATER WE HAVE TO GET THIS ON A FINANCE TRACK.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU CAN FIND ROOM FOR THIS PRESENTATION FOR US TO START CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST BECAUSE THERE'S NO SENSE HAVING AN ORDINANCE IF THERE'S

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YES, I WOULD SAY IS THERE ANY ROOM IN THE SHERIFF'S UNDER SEAL?

>> OH, GO AHEAD, MR. SHAWN. YEAH, I DO. SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS THERE ANY ROOM IN THE SHERIFF'S KAREN BUDGET TO FACILITATE SOME IF NOT ALL OF THAT EXPENSE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, I WOULD SAY MAYBE MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE IT THE JANUARY MEETING WHICH WOULD GIVE US TIME BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA PASS THE ORDINANCE BY THEN WE'RE ANYWAY. YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF TIME.

YEAH THAT WOULD BE THAT MAKES SENSE AND IT WOULD ALSO CONCERN IT AND CONSIDERING THE HOLIDAYS COMING AND EVERYBODY'S LEAVE SCHEDULES IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO PUT THE DECIBEL LEVEL TOGETHER AND THE. AND THE SATISFACTORY EXAMINATION OF EQUIPMENT WITH REGARD TO WHICH ONE WOULD STAND THE TEST OF CALIBRATION AND VALIDATION BEFORE A MAGISTRATE SO THAT WOULD BE OK. WHEN IS THE MEETING? IN JANUARY.

>> I REALLY WISH I HADN'T ASKED ME. >> OK.

SARAH KNOWS SARAH KNOWS ALL THINGS. SHE'LL LET US KNOW IT DOESN'T.

NOW WE FIND AND THEN THE SHERIFF THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME EXTRA TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL OF PRESENTATION WITH REGARD TO THE EQUIPMENT AND THE COST AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO BEAT THIS TO DEATH ANY MORE TODAY AND WE WON'T MOVE THIS ALONG TO COUNCIL ON MONDAY FOR A READING BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS JUST YET.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE IN PLACE AT THE MOMENT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WILL DISCOURAGE LOUD EXCESSIVE AND OBNOXIOUS NOISES BECAUSE IT HAS NO TEETH BUT IT'S THERE AND IF WE REALLY NEED TO USE IT I SUPPOSE WE COULD. BUT GOING FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SUFFICIENT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WILL ALLOW THE SHERIFF TO OPERATE AND FOR EVIDENCE TO BE CONSIDERED BY EITHER A JUDGE OR JURY WITH REGARD TO CONVICTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO VIOLATE THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. SO MY SUGGESTION.

CHARLIE, GO AHEAD. SHERIFF. LET LET ME HELP THIS THING.

MOVE ALONG BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE I MEAN THIS IS BETTER DISCUSSION AND NOISE OR DISCUSSION NOW FOR A YEAR. AND OFTEN TIMES WE FIND OURSELVES BOGGED DOWN IN QUICKSAND AND CAN'T MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR STOPPING IN GENERAL BUT LET ME WORRY ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT WAY PRESENT GOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT. YEAH, YOU'VE GOT THE SENATE FINANCE. LET ME FIND THE FUNDING. I'LL FIND FUNDING WITH MY CURRENT BUDGET OR I'LL GET SOME FEDERAL GRANT MONEY OR SOME STATE GRANT MONEY TO TRY TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT. I WILL HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER NEXT WEEK.

YOU'RE MEETING AS WHEN NEXT WEEK? MONDAY 14TH.

I'LL HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER FOR YOU ONLY TO 40 ON WHAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ENFORCEMENT THE

DECIMAL METER READING AMOUNT FOR DAYTIME NIGHTTIME. >> THAT WAY YOU OFTEN HAVE FIRST READING AND WE CAN MOVE THIS THING DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET IT DONE.

SO OUR ABOUT FUNDING ASPECT AND I'LL HAVE THE BBA READINGS THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR

ENFORCEMENT TO BY MONDAY. >> OK, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE MEMBERS OF THIS

COMMITTEE IF THAT'S SATISFACTORY TO THEM. >> MR. HIRSCHHORN, YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK FINANCIAL PIERCE BUT. BUT IF THE SHERIFF COMES BACK WITH THOSE DEA NUMBERS TO US BEFORE THE MEETING ON MONDAY, I CAN SEND THEM OUT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND FIND OUT IF THEY AGREE THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD WHEN THE FIRST READING AND MR. TAYLOR, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST INSERT THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS IN AND MAKE THE CHANGE ON 6 AND 10 O'CLOCK WITHOUT OBJECTION FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THEN WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD AND I GUESS I CAN DO THAT THROUGH A POLE THROUGH EMAIL AND TELEPHONE CONVERSATIONS TO MOVE IT FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE WILL PUT IT ON FOR FIRST READING AND WE CAN YOU KNOW, MOVE THIS ALONG AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROPER ORDINANCE THAT IS ENFORCEABLE AND THAT THE FUNDS ARE THERE TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. SO THANKS, SHERIFF.

APPRECIATE IT. MR. TAYLOR, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH REGARD TO THE INSERTION OF THAT LANGUAGE? OH, ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR.

MR. GREENAWAY, YOU HAVE ANY OBSERVATIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS? JUST ONE I JUST FOR THE COMMITTEE'S CONSIDERATION TYPICALLY THE FULL COUNT.

SO DOES NOT LIKE TO GIVE FIRST READINGS TO ORDINANCES OR AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE NOT HAD AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION OR ACTION BY THE COMMITTEE. SO YOU MIGHT JUST NOT LIKE IT.

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>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S WHY I SAID I WILL GET IT.

I WILL GET ACTION BY THE FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BY BY PULLING THEM ONCE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. I WILL CONTACT EVEANYONE WHO'S E RAISES AN OBJECTION TO THAT

GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOW. >> OK, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'M ASKING IF THERE ARE ANY ANYBODY RAISING AN OBJECTION TO THAT BECAUSE WHAT I INTEND TO DO IS GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE SHERIFF AND THEN CONTACT EVERYBODY BEFORE THE WEEKEND WITH THOSE NUMBERS TO SEE IF THERE'S OBJECTIONS TO THOSE NEW NUMBERS AND IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS AND WE WON'T GO FORWARD IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS THEN I THINK WE CAN

PUT IT TOGETHER WITH MR. TERRILL. >> THIS INSERTION OF THAT LANGUAGE AND HAVE IT READY FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ON ON MONDAY.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT CAN'T BE USED. IT'S TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE THIS ALONG TO ANYBODY OBJECT TO THAT PLAN?

>> NO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN . BUT ALSO AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, SHERIFF TANNER WANTED TO HAVE SOME SPECIFICITY IN THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE SAYING IT'S LOUD, OBNOXIOUS AND UNNECESSARY NOISE. RIGHT.

I'VE MADE THAT CHANGE TO TO MATCH THE TEXT. OK.

GREAT. THANKS. OK.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL EVERYBODY FOR THIS. AND I THINK WE CAN CLOSE THIS MATTER OUT. IS THAT A LESS IS MORE COMMENTS? THANK YOU, SHERIFF. I APPRECIATE YOU AS ALWAYS. YOUR INPUT.

JUDGE MCCULLOUGH. OH, SORRY, JESSICA YELLIN. ONE ISSUE I THINK WHAT NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR YOU TO REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE HAS PRESENTED MOVED FORWARD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SHERIFF WILL PRESENT A DECIBEL LEVELS AS DISCUSSED BEFORE THE MEETING ON MONDAY.

THAT WAY YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION COMING FORWARD FROM YOUR COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL.

>> SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS.

THANK YOU, MR. CAFFERTY FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I WILL BE HAPPY TO SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THAT HEARING? NO DISCUSSION. I WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD WITHOUT EXCEPTION IS ANY TAKE EXCEPTION TO THIS MOTION? OH GOOD.

THEN WE'RE ALL SET. THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY. YOU'VE SAVED ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. I STILL WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE BY TELEPHONE TO INFORM YOU OR BY EMAIL TO INFORM YOU OF WHAT THE SHERIFF'S REPORT IS TO ME WITH REGARD TO THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT HE HAS INDICATED HE CAN ENFORCE AND

THAT HE WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO PRESENT EVIDENCE ON A COURT. >> OK.

GREAT. LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO THE NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF. ONCE AGAIN. OK.

[10. STATUS OF THE DISTANCE LEARNING GRANTS]

THANK EVERYONE FOR HANGING IN THERE. THIS IS GOING TO BE IT SEEMS TO BE A LONG DAY. THIS IS THE STATUS ON THE DISTANCE LEARNING GRANT AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS. THE COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND PROBABLY ARE IN THE PROCESS IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN SENT OUT HAVE HAVE.

WE'LL BE WAITING TO GO OUT. THEY MAY BE OUT ALREADY. MR. ATKINSON WILL TELL US.

BUT THIS IS A NEW INITIATIVE THAT WE BEGAN BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE DISCOVERED.

ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR WERE HAVING WITH REGARD TO OBTAINING DISTANCE LEARNING AND A LOT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS STEPPING FORWARD TO ASSIST PEOPLE WHO HAD NO EQUIPMENT, HAD NO ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR HAD NO ADULT SUPERVISION TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDIES WITH A MALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN SPECIALLY SUFFERING WITH REGARD TO READING SKILLS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN PARTICULARLY SUFFERING WITH MATH SKILLS. SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE STEPPED UP TO HELP AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T HAVE THE BUDGETS TO DO THIS. SO WE'VE MANAGED TO CARVE OUT SOME MONEY FROM OUR RESERVE FUND AND THAT MONEY HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS AGREED TO HELP US BY VETTING APPLICATIONS FROM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE NO ONE THAT THEY HAVE LEGITIMATE DISTANCE LEARNING PROGRAMS. AND MR. ATKINSON IS GOING TO TALK TO US TODAY ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS MONEY AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FILE AN APPLICATION FOR GRANT.

ATKINSON. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

GREAT PROGRAMS FUND AGREEMENT IN THE M.O. YOU WITH THE COAST COMMUNITY FOUNDATION THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. CCF HAS RECEIVED THE FIRST HALF OF THE GRANT FUNDS AND THE NON ENDOWED FUND HAS BEEN CREATED . THIS DCF HAS ESTABLISHED THE GRANTS APPLICATION AND THE SELECTION PROCESS AND THEY ARE FINALIZING THEIR MARKETING MATERIALS.

NOW AS OF E-MAILS ON FRIDAY THEY WERE CLOSE TO COMPLETING THOSE.

I THINK THAT WILL GO OUT PROBABLY THIS WEEK MAYBE FIRST AND NEXT WEEK.

SO WE'RE REAL CLOSE. THE MARKETING ANNOUNCEMENTS AND FLYERS WILL BE TARGETED TO ALL

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>> THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET WORSE NOT ONLY IN OUR COUNTY BUT STATEWIDE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND THAT IF THERE ARE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL NOW THAT THAT MAY BE INTERFERED WITH AND THEY WILL HAVE TO GO TO A HYBRID OR A DISTANCE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THESE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTY WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THIS TYPE OF INSTRUCTION AND THAT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE DESPERATE FOR FUNDING TO HELP THEM. SO WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD THING HERE APPROVING THIS PROJECT AND IT'S A NEW PROJECT AND I'M SURE THAT IT WILL HAVE SOME BUMPS ALONG THE ROAD. BUT I THINK ONCE THE GRANT APPLICATIONS COME IN WE'LL PROBABLY BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY WE RECEIVE. AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE HAVE ESTABLISHED ANY LIMITS. MR. ATKINSON, ON THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT AVAILABLE TO THE ORGANIZATIONS OR ARE THEY SIMPLY GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED AND THEN DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY A COMMITTEE AS TO HOW

MUCH WILL BE AWARDED? >> SURE, I'LL GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA REAL QUICK.

>> SO THEY HAVE TO BE A FARMER ONCE THEY MUST OPERATE SERVICES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SERVED BLUEPRINT COUNTY YOUTH. THEY MUST BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE WRITING THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND OUTLINE HOW THE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT.

>> NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY THAT FACILITATES THE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND CHURCHES DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PROGRAM. WE WANT THEM TO BE ELIGIBLE SO THAT THEY CAN START THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY MUST BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE POLICY THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE REGARDING SCREENINGS AND BACKGROUND OF VOLUNTEERS AND

STAFF. >> WE CERTAINLY WANT TO PROTECT THE YOUTH DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM AT RISK. THEY AGREE TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ONCE THE FUNDS EXPENSES AND FOR SIX MONTHS THEY'LL TELL US HOW THEY'VE SPENT THE MONEY AND THE GRANT AWARD WILL NOT EXCEED 10 PERCENT OF THE ORGANIZATION'S BUDGET OR TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICHEVER

IS LESS. >> OK, GOOD. >> AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE AS SEED MONEY OR START MONEY AND THAT THAT WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS VITAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE SHY ABOUT SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDS IF I FIND THAT WE'VE HAD AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REPORT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR ATKINSON? MR. GLOVER YES. MR. JACKSON TWO QUESTIONS. TWO CONCERNS RATHER A LOT OF CHURCHES IN MY COMMUNITY ARE FIVE OR ONE C. SO IS THERE ANY PROVISION ALLOWING FOR CHURCHES EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT FIVE OR 1 C TO BE PART OF THIS? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PARDON IS A PART OF THE PROCESSING THAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH. SO I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FIRST.

NO, THEY WERE NOT PART OF THIS PROGRAM. >> THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IT'S SAY THIS PROGRAM IS TAILOR AND WAS CRAFTED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CCF TO SPECIFICALLY TARGET AREAS AND GROUPS THAT ARE NOT RECEIVING FUNDING OR ASSISTANCE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO IT'S A SEPARATE PROGRAM.

BACK TO THE FIVE I'M GOING TO STAND UP AND MAKE CLEAR WHERE THEY ARE PART OF A NETWORKING WITHIN BOB AND WHAT WE ARE DOING TO HELP DOWN THIS TO ME THAT INFORM ABOUT WHAT IS

HAPPENING. >> OH IS SO I CAN ANSWER THAT MR. ATKINSON.

YEAH. I AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, MR. GLOVER WE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SUPERINTEND SCHOOLS.

AND HE MADE AN APPEARANCE AT ONE OF OUR WEBEX MEETINGS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM.

HE WAS QUITE SURPRISED AS I MENTIONED AT THAT POINT TO HAVE RECEIVED THIS OFFER OF ASSISTANCE BUT WAS VERY GRATIFIED TO HAVE IT BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD. SO HE WAS DELIGHTED THAT WE MADE THE OFFER AND HE ENCOURAGED US TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS AND TO DO THE BEST WE COULD TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS DISTANCE LEARNING BECAUSE

[00:55:02]

THAT WAS I GUESS PRETTY MUCH LEFT TO THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM.

SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU WITH REGARD TO YOUR CHURCHES PARTICIPATES BUT IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN FIND FOR THEM TWO PARTICIPATE I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO

INVESTIGATE IT YES OR NO DRAFT THE FINAL ONE C 3. >> SO BASED ON A NUMBER OF FUND AND INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM THE CCF THEY HAVE TO DISBURSE FUNDS TO A NONPROFIT SO MOST CHURCHES THAT I KNOW OF ARE A FATHER ONE C 3 THEY'RE NOT A FOR PROFIT ENTITY.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT A FATHER ONE C 3 THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDS THEN I MEAN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH ANOTHER CONCERN. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THIS EFFORT? GOING FORWARD?

>> WE JUST GOTTA DISPERSE. WHAT IS THIS WITHOUT THE NO? >> SO THERE IS A FOLLOW UP.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE A WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF FIRST OF ALL BEFORE THEY GET THE FUNDING THEY HAVE TO LAY OUT THEIR PROGRAM AND TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE FUNDS. AND THEN SIX MONTHS AFTER THEY RECEIVED THE FUNDS, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US A FOLLOW UP REPORT TELLING US HOW THEY HAVE SPENT THE FUNDS.

NOW WHEN YOU MENTIONED HOW DO WE GAGE THE SUCCESS FIRST? I THINK IT'S GONNA BE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING REACHED.

THAT'S THE FIRST TEST. LONG TERM HOW MUCH IT'S AFFECTING THE READING ABILITIES AND WHAT THE POSITIVE GOOD IS IS ON THE ACADEMIC LEVEL. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. I KNOW. YEAH, THAT IS WHY I THINK THE

SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. >> THANK YOU.

>> WELL, THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE EVALUATE THE SUCCESS OF THE ORGANIZED ASIANS WHO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANT PROGRAM WHERE WE DISBURSED ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. AND I THINK THE MODEL THAT MR. ATKINSON IS WORKING FROM IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE THEY USED IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANTS FOR PEOPLE TO DESCRIBE HOW THEY MEASURE THEIR SUCCESS. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN I DON'T THINK GET READING SCORES DELIVERED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET MATH SKILLS SCORES DELIVERED. I THINK WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS PROVIDE ADULT SUPERVISION ,PROVIDE INTERNET ACCESS AND THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ARE PARTICIPATING HERE WHO MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN HOPE AND PRAY AND WORK HARD TO ENSURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES WITH REGARD TO MEASURING I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, HOW THE SCHOOLS COULD HELP US.

BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF EDUCATION ONCE HE'S OUT OF QUARANTINE AND ASK HIM IF HE COULD PARTICIPATE WITH US IN A WAY THAT COULD MEASURE THIS WHEN THE KIDS COME BACK TO SCHOOL TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE READING AND MATH LEVELS ARE. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. >> I THINK FURTHER ON THIS TOPIC, OK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ATKINSON.

[11. UPDATE ON STATUS OF THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE BUILDING]

GOOD WORK. APPRECIATE IT. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE. COLONEL FOOTSTOOL WITH US.

HE IS WITH US BUT I'M NOT. PHIL, CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT OR DO WE NEED.

>> I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE WOW YOU TALK ABOUT UPDATE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER, OK? LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GO, JARED.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST HERE FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

HIS INTEREST HERE FROM PUBLIC FACILITIES AND HIS INTEREST HERE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I THINK THAT EVENTUALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE THIS PROJECT WHICH WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE ONE OF ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT ONES WE'RE ENGAGED IN ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER IMPORTANT ONES MAY EVENTUALLY MAKE ITS WAY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WHERE THE CHAIRS OF ALL OF THOSE COMMITTEES WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING IN REGARD TO THE UTILIZATION OF THE COURTHOUSE. COULD YOU COULD GIVE US JUST A BRIEF UPDATE WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH REGARD TO MR. FLYNN WELLINGS COMMITTEE? WELL, JUST HEARD SEAN'S COMMITTEE JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND THAT THAT WOULD SATISFY ME.

>> SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN YOU KNOW,

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WELL, THAT'S GOOD NEWS . I THOUGHT THE FAX SYSTEM WAS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE

EXPENSIVE THAN IT IS. >> IT HAS AN OVERALL COST. PULL IT UP REAL QUICK.

I DON'T HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME BUT AFTER SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YEAH BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT SYSTEM. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COST THE REPLACEMENT AT THE MOMENT WE DO OUR I SAY THAT IS THE LEAD ITEM TOO.

>> AS FAR. SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK OUT IN THAT.

OKAY. >> SO WE'RE MOVING WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

I GUESS IT WILL BE COMING UP AGAIN AT PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THEN AGAIN FINANCE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS TILL WE GET IT DONE .

AND I THINK THE CHAIRMAN HAS AGREED THAT IT MAY BE IT MAY CONSIDER MOVING IT TO CONSIDERATION BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO COORDINATE OR THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT .

I APPRECIATE IT, MR. FARRELL. WELL, KATE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FAIR WITH REGARD TO THE OLD COURTHOUSE, THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE? OKAY.

THEN WE CAN MOVE ALONG TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RE APPOINTMENTS AND APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS INVOLVING A GREAT MANY PEOPLE, SOME OF WHOM MAY BE HERE. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME AND TALK

[12. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF WAYNE BLANKENSHIP, JOHN B. SENO AND DONNIE PHILLIPS TO THE SHELDON FIRE DISTRICT BOARD.]

>> I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

IT ALWAYS TAKES A LOT MORE TIME THAN YOU THINK IT WILL WHEN YOU VOLUNTEER FOR THESE THINGS AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR CONSIDERATION HERE. WITH REGARD TO THOSE REAPPOINTMENT TO THE SHELDON FIRE DISTRICT BOARD, DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS, OBJECTIONS OR ENDORSEMENTS WITH REGARD TO THOSE SELECTIONS THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE MOVED TO THE FULL

COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION? >> YES, THEY DO. OK.

HEARING NO OBJECTIONS OR ENDORSEMENTS OR COMMENTS. I'LL HOLD THAT AND WE'LL VOTE

[13. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF TRACEY ROBINSON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD.]

NO. >> OK. WELL, I WILL THANK HER AGAIN EVEN IN HER ABSENCE FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE. AND WE'LL HOLD THAT VOTE.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ENDORSEMENTS OF THAT SELECTION? I TOTALLY ENDORSE IT.

[14. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF GEOFFREY BRUNNING AND GEORGE RAFFERTY TO THE DAUFUSKIE ISLAND FIRE DISTRICT.]

THE NEXT YEAR'S CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JEFFREY BRUNING AND GEORGE RAFFERTY TO THE FUNKY ISLAND FIRE DISTRICT. ANY OF THOSE GENTLEMEN AVAILABLE?

>> YES, I AM JEFF. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR APPEARING HERE TODAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT. AND WE DO WISH TO EXTEND OUR SINCERE THANKS TO YOU FOR AGREEING TO ACCEPT A REAPPOINTMENT TO THIS TO THIS BOARD AND FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO IN THIS DIFFICULT YEAR . OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT.

AND LARRY, I'D LIKE TO. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLY ENDORSE MR. BERNIE AND ALSO MR. RAFFERTY.

>> THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THE FUNKY AND WE NEED TO KEEP HIM AS LONG AS WE CAN AND THAT THEY'VE DONE A SUPERB JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LAWSON.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. YES. THANK YOU, MR. NELSON.

THE NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION. OH, SORRY. MOVE.

MR. MR. >> MR. RAFFERTY.

IS HE CURRENTLY A MEMBER OR IS THE A EMPLOYMENT? >> HE IS.

HE TOOK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER'S TERM AND SO HE

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[15. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF RONALD CAMPBELL, WILL McCULLOUGH, AND MIKE MANESIOTIS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.]

RONALD CAMPBELL WELL MCCULLOUGH AND MIKE MINUS C. OTIS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

AND I SEE THAT MR. NANCY OTIS IS WITH US TONIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THAT IS MR..

MR. CAMPBELL I MISSED A CALL ON IT. NO.

WELL, MR. JESSE OTIS, WOULD YOU ACCEPT OUR THANKS FOR JOINING THIS BOARD? AND WOULD YOU PLEASE CONVEY OUR THANKS TO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TONIGHT WHO ARE NOT PRESENT? WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE COMMITMENT YOU'RE MAKING. TO THIS IMPORTANT WORK.

THANK YOU. WILL ANYBODY HAVE ENDORSEMENTS, COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS HEARING

[16. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF THOMAS PEEPLES, HERBERT BURNES, GARY BRIGHT, AND MADISON CHISUM TO THE BURTON FIRE DISTRICT COMMISSION.]

NONE. >> I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16 E. REAPPOINTMENT OF TOM PEOPLES HERB BURNS, GARY BRIGHT AND MADISON SCHISM TO THE BURTON FIRE DISTRICT COMMISSION. ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ON BOARD IN THEIR ABSENCE? I WILL THANK THEM FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE ON THE BURTON FIRED DISTRICT

[17. CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF DR.SOPHIA ALSTON FOR LCOG AS THE TCL REPRESENTATIVE]

SOPHIA ALSTON FOR ELSIE G AS THE T.C. L. REPRESENTATIVE THEY SAID IS DR. ALSTON ON BOARD TONIGHT? NO. WELL, THANKS TO HER AS WELL.

ANY COMMENTS, OBJECTIONS OR ENDORSEMENTS? NONE.

VERY NONE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ALL OF THOSE NAMES AND PRESENT THEM TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY OBJECTIONS THAT WERE MADE BY ANYONE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THESE FORWARD TO

THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. >> SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MAY I HAVE A SECOND SECOND ,MR. CHAIRMAN?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD MOVE THESE ALONG WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS? HEARING NONE. THIS MOTION CARRIES AND WE'LL GO FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL . THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

EXTREMITIES. QUICKLY, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK SARA AND OUR STAFF FOR INCLUDING THE THE ATTENDANCE IN THE PACKAGE. THAT'S ALL.

[18. CITIZEN COMMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED IN WRITING AT PO DRAWER 1228, BEAUFORT SC 29901 OR BY WAY OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FORM AVAILABLE ONLINE AT WWW.BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV]

COMMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE? >> NO, SIR, I DID NOT RECEIVE

ANY. >> AND I'LL I'LL GIVE TIFFANIE THE CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BACKUP MATERIALS BECAUSE SHE HANDLES ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS STUFF SAID YEAH, THERE WERE THERE WERE MANY PAGES OF BACKUP HERE TODAY AND WE LISTEN.

>> WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND BRENNAN AND TIFFANY DO THERE AND WE CONGRATULATE YOU FREQUENTLY IN PUBLIC AND IN PRIVATE. AND IT'S ALWAYS TO ME A VERY IMPRESSIVE THING TO WATCH AND SEE. AND THE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE YOU TOOK OVER THIS POSITION ARE REALLY REMARKABLE CONSIDERING WHAT I SAW WHEN I ARRIVED IN WHATEVER THE HECK THAT WAS 20 19 AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO OUR THANKS GO TO YOU AND TO YOUR STAFF AS ALWAYS. SO IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR US TO CONSIDER HERE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING? DO WE HAVE TO LOG IN AND LOG BACK IN, SIR? OKAY. SO OKAY.

>> OKAY. MORE AUTHORITY. GIVE EVERYBODY TIME SHOULD SIX MINUTES. THAT'LL DO IT. OKAY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THIS MATTER AT THIS MEETING IS

ADJOURNED. >> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.