Nov 20, 2020 Ad Hoc Bluffton Growth Committee

[Call to Order]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE BLUFFTON GROWTH COMMITTEE TO ORDER THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL NEED THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA

[Approval of Agenda]

MEDIA NEWS . THANK YOU, SIR. >> UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MUST THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, ANY KIND OF STEP ON THE AGENDA? SURE. THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PER MISS CUSHING.

[Approval of the September 24, 2020 Committee Minutes]

MEETING. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE MINUTES?

>> I DID JUST SEE ONE TYPO. ROBIN IT WAS LET ME PULL IT UP REFLECTS I CAN TELL YOU THINK IT WAS ON THE SECOND PAGE AT THE VERY TOP IN DEC SAYS DEBT INSTEAD OF DEATH.

SO WITH THAT CORRECTION, MR. MYERS MOVE THEN WE WILL APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 24TH COMMITTEE

MEETING. CORRECTIONS WITH THAT ONE TYPO. >> OK.

[Discussion on the Realtor Association Surveys]

>> OK, SO NOW ITEM IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION'S SURVEYS.

WE HAD COMPILED SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION. WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEIR PRESIDENT.

I BELIEVE AS HER TITLE AND I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION SURROUNDING THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE INFORMATION BEING POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE FROM OTHER ENTITIES AND THAT IT WOULD BE MORE FINITE COMING FROM THOSE ENTITIES AS OPPOSED TO OPINIONS FROM THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION.

SO I WANTED TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT OPEN UP TO MISS CRUTCHFIELD AND COLONEL GEIER TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND SEE IF YOU WANTED TO MAYBE AMEND THIS SURVEY PRIOR TO IT

GOING OUT TO THE MEMBERSHIP. >> YES, SIR. RACHEL, MY COMMENTS ARE YES.

WE'RE GONNA GO TALK TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW THEY KNOW AFTER DEVELOPERS COME IN THEY DON'T KNOW THE MARKET. REALTORS KNOW THE MARKET AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FROM THEM IS WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHAT KIND? WHO'S WHO IS MOVING IN? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT'S CONTACTING YOU AND LOOKING FOR A HOME? WHAT ARE THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS? YEAH, THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY DOESN'T KNOW THAT. THEY DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL SOMEBODY REGISTERS OR YOU KNOW ,FILLS OUT FORMS THAT THEY'RE THEY WANT THEIR TRASH PICKED UP AND THEY DON'T KNOW THE MARKET.

THE REALTORS KNOW THE MARKET. AND THAT'S WHY NOW. >> YOU KNOW I KNOW IT'S IT'S ANECDOTAL. AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE DATA BUT IF WE COULD GET TOGETHER WITH A GROUP OF THEM AND JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM, WHAT DO YOU SEE? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. WE'LL GO BACK AND WE TALKED TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WILL GET THEIR FIGURES BUT THOSE FIGURES ARE GOING TO SAY THERE'S A P D FOR X NUMBER A LOT OF S AND OK, WHAT WHAT KIND OF WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THERE, YOU KNOW THEY DON'T THEY DON'T KNOW THAT, MARTIN.

THEY REACT TO THE MARKET. REALTORS HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MARKET.

SO THAT'S YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE

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DON'T WANT TO BE HELD TO IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YEAH.

SO I HAD YOUR SUGGESTION OF MEETING IN PERSON AND HAVING A CONVERSATION SURROUNDING THESE TOPICS AND THESE QUESTIONS WAS GOING TO BE MY MY BE MY A WAS GOING TO BE THAT WE PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE TOP OF THIS THAT WOULD ALLOW TO BE DISTRIBUTED AND WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT THIS IS THEIR PERSONAL OPINIONS NOT REPRESENT HATING, NOT REPRESENTING NECESSARILY THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION AND THIS IS THEIR FEEDBACK.

MAYBE WE COULD DO BOTH BUT I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GIVE US AN OPTION AND SEE WHICH ONE WE WANTED TO PURSUE. I KNOW THAT IF WE DO A MEETING OR A CONVERSATION WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND OF LIMITED IN WHAT OUR VIEWPOINTS COMING OUT OF THAT MEETING AND THE NARRATIVE THAT WE BRING FORWARD AND WHAT WE RECALL RECOLLECT FROM THAT MEETING. SO I THINK THIS GIVES US SOME SOME MORE HARD THAN TO FORWARD WITH. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO OF COURSE YOU SHOULD BE NON ATTRIBUTION, RIGHT? WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHO'S CONTACTING THEM. YEAH.

WHAT ARE THEY HEARING? WHAT'S THE RUMOR ON THE STREET? IT'S NOT HARD BUT WE TAKE THAT.

AND THEN MATCH THAT UP WITH HARD DATA FROM THE CITY AND COUNTY PLANNING GROUP AND WE'LL HAVE A I THINK A BETTER PICTURE THAT WE CAN WORK FROM. OK.

MR. MARSHALL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON YOUR PREFERENCE FOR EITHER ONE OR I COULD APPROACH THEM AND ASK THEM WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES IF THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PUT A DISCLAIMER IF THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE A MEETING I CAN I'M PRETTY OPEN TO. HOWEVER WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION AS LONG AS IT JUST HAPPENS SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

>> I THINK AS LONG AS THEY ARE FILLING OUT THE SURVEY AS INDIVIDUAL REALTORS AND THERE'S NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION COMING BACK TO US REALLY. SO THEY CAN THEY CAN SPEAK FREELY LIKE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO REPRESENT THEIR COMPANY OR THIS REALTORS ASSOCIATION OR WHATEVER. I THINK THERE ARE QUESTIONS IN THERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

INDIVIDUAL REALTORS ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. >> SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

YES. IT'S JUST THEIR OPINION. WE CAN GET HARD DATA LIKE YOU SAID FROM THE COUNTIES. BUT I THINK THERE'S GOOD QUESTIONS IN THERE.

AND THEN MAYBE PERHAPS AFTER WE GET ALL THE RESPONSES THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR MEETING WITH REALTORS ASSOCIATION AND GIVE THEM THE FEEDBACK AND YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE GATHERED FROM THE SURVEY. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT FROM TALKING TO THE TOWN HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. HERE'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING TO THEM MAY BE THE SAME THING AND MAYBE DIFFERENT. NO. SO A DISCLAIMER AT THE FRONT THAT'S THAT'S OK. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ANSWERS TO SOME OF THESE.

>> YEAH, I DIDN'T GET A REALLY GOOD POINT, CAROL, ABOUT GETTING GETTING THE DATA POINTS FROM THE INDIVIDUAL REALTORS. NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION AND LOOKING AT DISCLAIMERS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ATTRIBUTED TO THE ASSOCIATION AND THEN AFTERWARDS FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM WITH THOSE THAT DATA THAT KIND OF THAT CATCH ALL CONVERSATIONS.

HERE'S WHAT WE GLEANED AND HERE'S KIND OF WHAT WE ARE GATHERING.

IS THIS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING? SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE IN-PERSON MEETING OR THE SYNOPSIS IF YOU WILL GATHER THE DATA. I'VE GOT A NEIGHBOR DOWN A STREET WITH HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT ARE ON THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS NORTH OF THE BROAD. AND I WENT AND JUST ASKED THEM ,YOU KNOW, JUST TELL ME ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE MARKET HERE AND WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE IS

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FOCUS ON FAMILY AND PEOPLE AND FIRMS THAT FOCUS ON HIGH END. >> AND SO YOU GOT TO GET ACROSS SECTION TO BE ABLE TO GET A TOTAL PICTURE. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE THE BETTER THE DATA WE WOULD GET FROM THEM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FIRMS REALLY JUST FOCUS ON ANY FOCUS. ONE AREA THERE IS THERE'S A REALTOR IN THIS UP HERE THAT REALLY JUST FOCUSES AT HARBOR AND FRIPP DOESN'T DOESN'T MESS AROUND WITH ANYTHING ELSE. AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT ARE HERE IN BEAUFORT AND THERE ARE SOME OUT IN THE END UP IN THE RURAL AREAS THAT DEAL WITH RURAL PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE TO GET ACROSS FERTILIZATION. I THINK I'VE PARTICIPATED.

SO WE DON'T GET A SKEWED VIEW EVERYTHING. >> THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNT I DID WANT TO ASK IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARTICIPANTS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATION LIKE A TARGET THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK THEM FOR? GOOD QUESTION TO ASK THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION HOW MANY MEMBERS DO THEY HAVE?

>> I THINK THERE'S A GREAT DEAL . I ALSO LIKE YOUR MENTIONING THE THERE ARE SOME THAT FOCUS ON THE HILTON HEAD OR JUST SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE BE REACHING OUT TO THOSE IN BLUFFTON. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE JUST IN THE BLUFFTON AREA BUT I WOULD ASSUME YOU KNOW A BIT WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN OR THEIR PLANS TO

SEND THAT TO ALL ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS. >> I THINK IT WAS THE INDICATION THAT I RECEIVED WAS THOSE THAT ARE IN FOCUS IN THE BLUFFTON MARKET.

>> IT WOULDN'T MAKE THEM NECESSARILY SEND TO THAT HILLMAN MARKET WAS THEIR UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THAT INFORMATION I'M TRYING TO GATHER.

>> OK, SO THEN JUST TO RECAP SO I MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

I WILL TRY TO ADD A DISCLAIMER TO THE TOP OF THE SURVEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ASSOCIATION IS GOOD WITH THAT DISCLAIMER MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION THAT'S GATHERED AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH AN IN-PERSON MEETING AFTER THE TIME PERIOD HAS LAPSED FOR GATHERING THE INFORMATION AND DEC ALSO MAKE SURE THAT I REFERENCE A GOOD CROSS-SECTION OF REALTORS JUST IN CASE SOME ARE ONLY FOCUSED BERKELEY HALL OR SOMETHING. OK, GREAT. WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU ROBIN FOR PULLING UP THAT SURVEY. I APPRECIATE THAT.

HEY, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION ON THAT ITEM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS UPDATE ON

[Update on Impact Fees]

>> GOOD EVENING. SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME TIME ON THE IMPACT FEE TOPIC BETWEEN THE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE SOUTHERN SERVICE AREA THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND THAT IS TOWN OF HILTON HEAD TOWN OF BLUFFTON TOWN, A CITY OF HARDY VILLE. AND SO I PROVIDED A AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD ON OUR LAST BOARD MEETING. HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME. THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED AND WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN PARTICULAR AND DISCOVERED A LENGTHY DOCUMENT THAT EXISTED THAT WE HADN'T PREVIOUSLY KNOWN ABOUT. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY BRING THAT FORWARD TO LET RECORD BE AWARE OF THAT. AND IT PROVIDES AND I'LL REFERENCE THAT NEAR THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. BUT SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF AN OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BUT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENTS AND AS OF LATE WE WERE CONTACTED BY THE TOWN OF SELECTMAN WHO LOST MY CONTROL, PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION A LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN EARLY IN AUGUST FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO THE

COUNTY. >> SO IN THAT THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED THAT THAT RELATED TO SCHOOL IMPACT FEES. AND SO I WAS FORWARDED IN

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IT WOULD RESIDENCES ARE THOSE THAT GENERATE THE STUDENT NUMBERS AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DOESN'T DIRECTLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON STUDENTS. IT COULD HAVE AN INDIRECT IMPACT. BUT THERE IS NO DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THE PRODUCTION OF STUDENTS COMING OUT OF HOMES THAT WOULD GO ENTERING INTO OUR SCHOOLS. SO THAT'S THE REASON IMPACT FEES ARE NOT IMPOSED ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THE SECOND ITEM WAS RELATING TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.

THERE WAS A REQUEST TO CONSIDER IN THE ORIGINAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT

DRAFT DRAFTED BY THE COUNTY LEGAL DEPARTMENT. >> THERE WAS MENTION OF A 1 PERCENT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT COULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE FEES THAT WERE IMPOSED BEFORE THOSE FUNDS WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BEHALF.

THERE WAS MENTION OF WOULD WE CONSIDER A 5 PERCENT ADMINISTRATIVE WHEN CALCULATING THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THAT AND AND JUST SOME ROUGH NUMBERS.

>> I BELIEVE OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD WE ARE PROJECTED TO RECEIVE IF THIS MOVES THROUGH COUNCIL AND ALL APPROVALS ARE MADE UPWARDS OF EIGHTY NINE OR NINETY MILLION DOLLARS OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD SO WE COULD BE RECEIVING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN IMPACT FEES THAT ARE SPECIFIC DESIGNATED FOR THESE PROJECTS.

SO IF YOU TAKE 5 PERCENT OF 5 MILLION DOLLARS AS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE THAT IS TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR SO THAT CONSIDERING THERE AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER TO AT THE TOWN OR EACH MUNICIPALITY TO OVERSEE THOSE FUNDS TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WHAT A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE WOULD COST.

SO WE RECOMMENDED TO HOLD TRUE AT THE 1 PERCENT COST AND WE'LL STILL BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ON THAT FEE. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER COUNTY FEES AS WELL WHICH THERE WILL ALSO BE FEES ADMINISTRATIVE FEES POTENTIALLY DEDUCTED FROM THEIRS AS WELL. SO I RECKON RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED THAT WE HOLD TRUE AT THE 1 PERCENT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. IN OUR LETTER TO THE TOWN THE LAST THIRD AND FINAL TOPIC ON THAT I MENTIONED IN THE LETTER AND WHICH IS UP ON THE SCREEN HERE NOW WAS THAT THE COUNTY AT A TOWN MENTIONED THE PROJECT LIST AND I WASN'T IT HADN'T

BEEN CLEAR TO ME. >> WHAT THE PROJECT LIST WAS SO I INQUIRED BACK TO TISCHLER BICE OUR CONSULTANT AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LENGTHY DOCUMENT THAT WAS SUPPORTED THE DECEMBER 20 19 POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS A SECTION IN THAT DOCUMENT THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE PLANNED CAPACITY PROJECTS. THESE CAPACITY PROJECTS THAT WERE PULLED BY OUR CONSULTANT OUT OF THE DISTRICT'S 10 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO THIS IS SO THIS IS THE LISTING THAT WAS PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF THE STUDY.

THE STUDY THE DOCUMENT I RECEIVED WAS DATED JULY 20 20 I BELIEVE.

THESE WERE PROVIDED A LITTLE PREVIOUS TO THAT. SO I DID INDICATE THAT THERE

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THEY WERE ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS. IF YOU SUBTRACT THOSE THAT ARE COMPLETED THERE STILL REMAINS ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS.

SO EIGHTY NINE MILLION DOLLARS OF IMPACT FEES WOULD MAKE A HUGE DENT IN THAT.

IT WOULD COVER 63 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT IF IF AND WHEN HOPEFULLY WE ACHIEVE THAT TO BE PASSED. AND SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL SAW THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE OUTLINED AND THERE ARE SINCE THIS PROJECT LIST IS IN THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND IN THE IMPACT FEE STUDY PLAN THESE WILL BE REFERENCED AND WE WILL NEED TO ADHERE TO THESE PROJECTS WHEN THOSE PROJECTS ARE PASSED AND THERE ARE TIMELINES FOR SPENDING IMPACT FEES SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEGUN. SO WE CAN BE IN ARCHITECTURAL STAGE OR EARLY ON IN A PROJECT BUT THE IMPACT FEE THERE IS A TIMELINE THAT IS REQUIRED TO SPEND THE FUNDS. SO I JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT YOU ALL NEEDED TO DO YOU KNOW, HAVE INFORMATION ON AS YOU WORK THROUGH YOUR THE WORK THE COMMITTEE AND HAD INFORMATION AND MAYBE DISCUSSING WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS OR OTHERS ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES AND JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU HAD THAT KNOWLEDGE TO AMEND THE DOCUMENT AS WELL. I HAVEN'T MADE MY WAY THROUGH THAT FORTY SIX PAGE DOCUMENT BUT IT DOES HAVE WHAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD. WAS THIS STATE LAW IS IT THE VERY LAST APPENDIX OF THAT DOCUMENT? SO WHAT I'M GOING TO BE DOING AS FAR AS MY NEXT STEPS WILL BE CONTINUE READING THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT MAKING SURE THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS ARE COMPLYING. BOTH ARE MATCHING COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW, WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEY TO ON ANY POINTS OR QUESTIONS I MAY HAVE.

AND THEN DR. RODRIGUES AND I HAVE DISCUSSED CONNECTING WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD OFFICIALS AND THE CITY OF HARDY VILLE OFFICIALS AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNTY COUNCIL ERIC GREENWAY AND TOM COVENEY ARE AND I BELIEVE PAUL SOMERVILLE ARE ON A COMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH THE IMPACT FEE MATTER.

>> AND SO WE WILL BE RECONNECTING WITH THEM SOMETIME IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE SO THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE MEETING.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE.

THANK TASK. THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT AND INFORMATION.

I THINK IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO COME TO THE FULL BOARD AS WELL. SO POTENTIALLY THIS MIGHT NEED TO GO ONTO A FUTURE AGENDA FOR THE FULL BOARD. I WANTED TO SEE IF ANY OF OUR MEMBERS FROM CAROL CRUTCHFIELD OR COLONEL HAD ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I ASKED ANY OF MY.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS CONCERNING THE IMPACT THE MONEY THAT WE FOUND.

WHERE DID THAT NOT COME FROM? THE BOSTON AREA TO. >> IT WAS IN I BELIEVE IT WAS GENERATED FROM THE BLUFFTON AREA IN THE NOT MID 1990S AND THE FACILITIES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED IN THE AND THAT BOND REFERENDUM IN THAT TIMEFRAME THE DEBT HAS ALREADY

BEEN REPAID. >> SO WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED AND I AM BRINGING ACTUALLY FORWARD IN MY RESPONSE TO THE FORENSIC AUDIT IS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED TWO SPECIFIC BOND ISSUES THAT ARE OUR OLDEST BOND ISSUES AND WE ARE APPLYING THOSE THAT THAT THREE MILLION DOLLARS TWO POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS TO TWO PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS.

THIS COMING MARCH NEXT. GOVERNOR, THERE WAS AN EARLY PAYOFF ON THAT THOSE FUNDS.

>> WELL, IT WON'T BE AN EARLY PAYOFF. WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AN EARLY PAYOFF BUT WE WILL USE THE IMPACT FEE FUNDS FOR THOSE IN THE OTHER DEBT SERVICE FUNDS FOR THE REMAINDER. SO IT'S A TIMELY PAYMENT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO ALLOCATE THE TWO OLDEST PAYMENTS TO THE THAT FOR ONE FUND NUMBER AND THE REMAINDER WILL BE IN THE

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AND DO WE KNOW WHY THOSE IMPACT FEE STOPPED? >> I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET THAT RECOLLECTION FROM THERE. I HAD TO DO WITH STATE LAW. I BELIEVE SOME SOME ACT OR LAW WAS REVOKED OR RESCINDED IN SOME WAY SO WE NO LONGER WERE ABLE TO COLLECT THEM.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK IN TO MY EMAILS FROM OUR BOND COUNSEL AND SHE DID DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. IT WAS RESCINDED OR ENDED IN SOME WAY. AND SO WE WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT THOSE FEES. THANK YOU. SURE.

HAROLD, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DID NOT COME IN.

I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ON FOR A WHILE SPEAKING. I'M GOOD AT SO I HAD JUST A

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> ONE IS ABOUT THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES QUESTION THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ASKED IS THAT KNOW YOU SAID YOU CONSULTED WITH COUNSEL ON THAT QUESTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IS THAT BECAUSE THE STATUTE REQUIRES A DIRECT CONNECTION FOR IMPACT

FEES? >> YES, IT REQUIRES A DIRECT CONNECTION.

THEY IS REFERRED TO I BELIEVE IN THE POWER POINT. THAT WAS DONE IN DECEMBER AND THIS AND THEN THE DOCUMENT IS NEXUS. SO THERE MUST BE NEXUS BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE SCHOOL, THE BUILDING, THE NEED FOR THE SCHOOL FACILITY.

YOU'VE GOT IT. OK. THE NEXUS WAS THE WORD THAT I WAS USED TO HEARING. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE CONNECTION.

PERFECT. LOOK. AND THEN ALSO ON THAT PROJECT LIST THAT YOU SHOWED AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID IT COVERED 60 PERCENT 63 PERCENT OF THE COST OF THOSE PROJECTS. THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE USEFUL AND LOOKING AT FUNDS AND DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN BE FUNDED FROM IS LOOKING AT OUR DEBT MATURITY INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE IMPACT FEE USAGE LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING YOU HAVE TO USE IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD TRY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF CHART OR GRAPH THAT SHOWS THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE I SEE THAT THEY HAVE ANTICIPATED DATES ON THEM OR YEARS OF WHEN THEY WOULD BE STARTED OR COMPLETED. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT YEAR REPRESENTS FOR SURE BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MIRROR AND FIND OUT WHAT THE AVAILABLE FUNDING WOULD BE, WHAT THAT MIGHT BE MATURING AT THOSE POINTS IN TIME AND HOW MUCH IMPACT WE SHOULD HAVE COLLECTED BY THAT POINT IN TIME SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT PERCENTAGE IT OBVIOUSLY OVER THE FULL 10 YEARS THE IMPACT THESE THAT WOULD BE SIXTY THREE PERCENT.

BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE EBBS AND FLOWS IN THAT BASED ON THE SCALE OF THE PROJECTS.

SO I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED TASK BUT I THINK IT'S A NECESSARY ONE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE DOLLARS TIGHT. AND I WOULD I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD WANT TO IN THAT IN THOSE ASSUMPTIONS TO INCLUDE AN ASSUMPTION OF A PHASE 2

REFERENDUM AS WELL. >> YEAH. AND I DON'T RECALL WHAT WAS REMAINING ON I ASSUME THAT THIS PROJECT THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE CAME ALSO FROM THE COMMUNITY PROJECT COMMITTEE THAT WAS TASKED WITH FINE WITH ASSIGNING OR LOOKING AT WHAT THE WANTS WERE FOR A PROJECT MADE IN SOME OF THESE COME FROM THERE AS WELL BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY USED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BOOK AS A GUIDE TOO.

IS THAT ACCURATE? ROBERT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

IN ALL HONESTY I THINK THIS LIST MAY HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE 10 YEAR PLAN PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE THAT SAID EVERYTHING ON HERE WAS CONSIDERED BY THEM.

A YOU KNOW WE HAVE FOUND THERE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS AT HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL.

OF COURSE. IN THE END THEY WENT WITH A COMPLETE RENOVATION OF HILTON HIGH SCHOOL. HEY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE MOBILE CLASSROOMS, OF COURSE.

SO MOBILE CLASSROOMS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS

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WAS THERE A NEW SCHOOL? WAS THERE. I'M NOT SURE WE WENT AS FAR AS A NEW SCHOOL ROOM ADDITION BECAUSE THAT'S A FURTHER TIME PERIOD OUT AND THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THAT MAKES SENSE. SO MOST OF THEM YES, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM THEY'RE LIKE MOBILE CLASSROOMS WOULD NOT. AND THAT'S NOT REALLY A CAPITAL YOU THAT'S MORE IT IS A CAPITAL BUT IT'S A AT A SHORT TERM FIX A LONG TERM FIX. THEY WERE LOOKING AT LONG TERM FIXES AND THEN THAT THAT SECOND NEW SCHOOL WAS NOT ON THEIR LIST YET BECAUSE THAT'S FURTHER LOOKING FURTHER OUT THAN THEY WERE LOOKING. WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION, TANYA, WOULD BE THIS LIST IS WHAT THE IMPACT FEES ARE LIMITED TO.

IS THAT ACCURATE? I BELIEVE SO SINCE THIS IS WHAT WAS IN THE STUDY.

>> SO I WOULD NEED TO PROBABLY CONSULT WITH SARA ROBERTS TO VERIFY AH IS THIS IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO EDIT THIS LIST? IS THIS SET IN STONE? IS THIS THE PLAN? AND WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THIS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT IS MY QUESTION.

ROBERT AND I DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION

FOR US TO RESEARCH. YEAH. >> WHAT I REMEMBER THE CONSULTANT SAYING AS WELL AS THE MONEY COULD ONLY BE SPENT ON PROJECTS THAT INCREASED CLASSROOM CAPACITY. SO THAT'S WHY THEY COULD BE SPENT FOR MOBILES EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK OF THEM IN THAT LONG TERM CAPITAL MONEY.

BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN PURCHASING LAND THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS A FUTURE BUILDING BUT IN FACT IT ENDED AT I THINK THE MORE RECENT PROJECTION SINCE THE CRC HAVE SHOWN THE NEED FOR A

SECOND SCHOOL AND WE HAVE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS WELL I GUESS COME BACK. OK, SO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE NEEDS ARE BASED ON OUR PROJECTS . THE CRC BASED EVERYTHING ON OH I'VE GOT THE TURN.

WHAT'S THE GUY'S NAME GIVEN THEY'VE MCKIBBON PROJECTIONS. SO NOTE THEY WEREN'T PUSHING AS MUCH FOR THAT NEW SCHOOL BECAUSE THE MCKIBBIN REPORT SAID WE BLUFFTON WAS NOT

GROWING AND WE DIDN'T NEED IT. >> SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE USAGE BASED THIS. THIS LIST OF PROJECTS AS WELL AS LOOK AT THAT COMMUNITY LIST AND SEE WHAT THE OVERLAP WAS AND THAT LIKELY WILL NEED TO GO TO A FULL BOARD DISCUSSION WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE REFERENDUMS IN THE FUTURE. I THINK IT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHAT'S BEEN CHECKED OFF, WHAT'S STILL PENDING, WHAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY PAID FOR BECAUSE IT IT'S POSSIBLY RESTRICTED USAGE SO THAT WHENEVER YOU GET THE RESPONSES ON THOSE QUESTIONS WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

RIGHT. WE'LL DO ANY OTHER PESSIMISTIC NO.

OKAY. SO WE'VE COMPLETED THE UPDATE ON IMPACT FEES AND WE ARE

[Discussion of Bluffton Cohort Plan]

PROVIDED THIS IS WHAT JUST FIRST OF ALL I NEEDED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DATA IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE FORTY FIVE DAY REPORT FOR YET YOU FOR THIS

YEAR. >> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU YEAH.

FILED. YEAH. AND SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CURRENT YEAR AND IT THIS IS BASED OFF LAST YEAR'S NUMBER. DO YOU HAVE THE 45 DAY DATA

NOW. >> I DO HAVE THAT DATA NOW. >> SO.

SO WE AND I'M WORKING ON THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD WE COULD PUT THAT TODAY IS ONE

OF THOSE NUMBERS. >> YES. >> FOR A FEATURE DISCUSSION.

SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION. >> SECOND QUESTION AND THE BUILDING CAPACITY ON THIS.

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>> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY DID LOOK AT THEM. NO, I CAN'T.

NO. THAT IT DID NOT. BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS WHEN WE STARTED THIS THEY WERE NOT ONLINE YET. AND THEY WON'T REALLY BE.

YEAH, WELL I REALLY NEED TO UPDATE THAT SINCE JANUARY WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO GO. RIGHT ROBERT? YES, SIR.

YEAH, WELL LEVERAGE IS BEING USED RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ANOTHER 400 STUDENTS OVER YOU GET DIVIDED BETWEEN MIDDLE AND ELEMENTARY AND THEN MAY RIVER WILL ADD ANOTHER 400 STUDENT CAPACITY. RIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHAT I SEE FROM THIS AND OH BY THE WAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IS THE MCKIBBIN REPORT IS BASED ON THE PREVIOUS CENSUS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEDAY I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CURRENT CENSUS INFORMATION AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP EXPLAIN WHY THE MCKIBBIN REPORT WHAT THEY ARE PROJECTING AND WHAT WE SEE ARE SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE HE BASED IT ON THE DATA THAT HE HAD IN THE CENSUS WAS GOOD DATA OBVIOUSLY. BUT IT WAS OLD DATA AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEW DATA.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED A ANOTHER SCHOOL IN PRETTY QUICK ORDER AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO WAIT UNTIL THIS REFERENDUM IS FINISHED AND WHAT 20 FOR I DON'T THINK WE CAN

WAIT. >> AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MINI REFERENDUM.

BUT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL AT MAE RIVER HIGH SCHOOL K THROUGH 8 OR I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED 900 MORE SPACES BY 2020 FOR WELL WE CAN'T START THAT ON 20 TO 24 WHEN THE NEXT THIS CURRENT REFERENDUM IS COMPLETED BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE REALLY STRONG DATA TO GO AND PROVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO GET SOMETHING GOING.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT IS WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING THIS COMING YEAR TALKING CALENDAR YEAR TO BE LOOKING AT DOING THE DESIGN WORK ON THAT SCHOOL SO THAT BY THE NEXT MAJOR ELECTION IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW WE COULD PUT A MINI REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT AND HAVE ALL THAT GOOD HARD DATA TO PROVE WHY WE NEED IT NOW.

YOU KNOW, I I JUST DON'T SEE ANY WAY THE NUMBERS MERGER WE'RE GONNA BE OVERLOADED AND THAT'S THAT'S MY VIEW. THAT'S WHY PUTTING THIS BY COHORT IS REALLY SHOWED ME WHERE THE DELTA IS BETWEEN OUR CAPACITY AND OUR ANTICIPATED STUDENT GROWTH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT I AGREE COMPLETELY. A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THAT IS I'M GOING TO GO BACK. THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SOLUTION IS

TO GET THESE IMPACT FEES PAST. >> IF WE COULD GET THESE IMPACT FEES FAST, THAT'S YOUR SOURCE

REVENUE TO SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU FORESEE. >> AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE YES. SO I'LL JUST STOP RIGHT THERE. NO, NO, NOT IF WE CONTINUE TO GET THIS DEBT AND YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS REALLY PRELIMINARY. WE STILL NEED TO TALK TO THE REALTORS. WE STILL NEED TO TALK TO THE PLANNERS COUNTY AND THE CITY TO GET TO EXPLAIN. SO THESE NUMBERS TO THEM AND SAY, OK, DO YOU GUYS AGREE WITH THIS? DO YOU THINK THIS IS THIS REASONABLE AND.

AND IF WE GET I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONCURRENCE BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS TO THE GROWTH FIGURES. WE NEED TO HAVE THE UPDATED CENSUS DATA BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME THE MCKIBBIN DATA.

KNOW WE WE HAVE TO HAVE A VERY STRONG CASE TO WHY THE MCKIBBIN DATA WAS A SNAPSHOT.

AND IT'S PROBABLY NO LONGER VALID BALLOT DATA BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE

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SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT ONCE WE HAVE ALL THAT. AND I HOPE WE CAN GET ALL THAT BY SPRING. IS THAT WE CAN GO IN AND USE SOME 8 PERCENT MONEY TO DO THE DESIGN WORK SO WE CAN HAVE A SHOVEL SHOVEL READY PROJECT READY TO GO.

PERHAPS IN TWO YEARS THE NEXT ELECTION IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE .

SO THAT'S MY THOUGHT. RACHEL, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> YEAH I AGREE THAT THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE DATA POINTS ARE GOING TO BE WHAT MAKES OR BREAKS YOU KNOW, SELLING ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE DESIGN WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND YOU MENTIONED 8 PERCENT FUNDING GENERALLY FOR THAT. MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE IMPACT THESE SAY THAT GETS PASSED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR WHEN THE FINAL VOTE WILL OCCUR FOR THAT AND MAYBE CHINA CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THE

ANTICIPATED POSSIBLE OUTCOME IS. >> BUT I'M WONDERING THE IMPACT THESE COULD BE USED FOR DESIGN WORK OR IF IT'S ONLY LIMITED ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

>> I'M SURE THAT CAN BE USED. SURE THEY CAN BE USED TO DESIGN WORK AS PART OF THE COST OF A BUILDING. YOU GOT TO DO THE DESIGN. THE PROBLEM WITH THINKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES IS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START AND HOW THAT MONEY'S GOING TO FLOW.

IT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO GET THIS APPROVED AND STARTED AND THEN IT'S GOT TO BE COLLECTED AND IT JUST WON'T COME IN. IT'S PROBABLY COME IN DRIPS AND DRABS AS WE SELL LOTS.

SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> I BELIEVE THAT IT CAN BE USED WITH A IMPACT FEE REVENUE.

AS FOR I CAN'T BEGIN TO GUESS HOW QUICKLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT PASSED.

IT DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO READINGS OF COUNCIL AND HAVE SOME DELIBERATIONS AND DELIBERATION SO IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE WE CAN GET IT INTO A SECOND READING. I WOULD GUESS ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAYS COMING UP ONE.

ONE THING I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AND I'M GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WITH THE EARNINGS IS THAT IN THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY IT INDICATED THAT THE WHEN THE MUNICIPALITIES COLLECTED THEM THAT THEY WOULD BE TRANSFERRED THE FUNDS WOULD BE TRANSFERRED BY MUNICIPALITIES TO THE COUNTY BY NOVEMBER 1ST EACH YEAR. AND SO THAT SOUNDED LIKE ONCE A YEAR TO ME. BUT BY NOVEMBER 1 IT COULD COME ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

SO I WOULD NEED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE FUNDS TRANSFERRED TO US FOR USE THEM ? SO I WOULD WANT THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND SO I WOULD I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THE TIMELINESS OF THOSE REVENUES. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO GET THEM MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.

>> DEFINITELY. >> OK. >> YES.

IT ALL KIND OF GOES TO A TIMELINE AND SOME TYPE OF ANTICIPATED TIMELINE I THINK. WE NEED TO TRY TO COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM HERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHETHER IT'S A POSSIBLE MINI REFERENDUM AND OBVIOUSLY REFERENDUMS TAKE YEARS TO PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DONE PROPERLY. SO IF THERE'S BEYOND THE CENSUS DATA FORTY FIVE DAY NUMBERS WHAT OTHER I'M TRYING TO GET A TIMELINE BASICALLY A ROUGH DRAFT OF ONE MAYBE AN IMPACT FEES BEING APPROVED. WHAT OTHER. AND I THINK I'D NEED A TONIC.

YOU YOU JUST SHOWED US UPDATED DEBT SCHEDULE RECENTLY AT ONE OF OUR.

YES. I THINK THAT'S SOME DOGS I COULD POSSIBLY PULL THAT THIS DATA TAKES A WHILE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE TO USE. RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UP THERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE THAT I'VE SEEN FOR WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE POSTING IT. WHAT THEY DO IS ESTIMATES EVERY YEAR.

SO YOU CAN GO ON THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY THROUGH THE CENSUS AND LOOK AT POPULATION ESTIMATES. SO SO THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE. BUT WHEN THE ACTUAL 20 20

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>> I'VE BEEN TOLD THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT RE REDISTRICTING BASED ON THE CENSUS.

RIGHT. I MEAN OF THIS COMING SUMMER. >> RIGHT.

SO THAT I SUSPECT THAT'S ABOUT WHEN IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. YEAH.

THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE NUMBERS. >> THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE

NUMBERS BEFORE THEY CAN BEFORE THEY CAN REDISTRICT. >> CORRECT.

YES. AND JUST SO I KNOW ABOUT TIMEFRAME WISE WHEN WE DID THE LAST REFERENDUM AND THERE WAS DESIGN WORK DONE ABOUT HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO DESIGN WORK

. >> I ALWAYS SAY THAT YOU NEED A GOOD SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS ON THE DESIGN SIDE. SO SIX MONTHS AT LEAST BEFORE CONSTRUCTION IT EIGHT MONTHS GET ALL THE PERMITS DONE AND EVERYTHING WELL AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET A DESIGNER

ON BOARD TO SAY TRIM THEIR FLAG. >> SO CALL IT A YEAR.

I WAS GOING TO ADD THE OTHER PIECE OF DATA THAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

>> I MEAN I KNOW YOU'RE SERVING THE REALTORS BUT FROM THE TOWN OF BLUFFS, BLUFFTON HOME SALES YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING OF ARE OUR SCHOOLS IN THE INNER ENVIRONMENT AND HOW SALES AND HOW THOSE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING THERE ARE IN FROM WHAT I'M HEARING BELIEVE HOW SALES ARE

CONTINUING. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. >> I DID TOUCH BASE WITH HEATHER COLIN, THE TOWN'S DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND GROWTH AND YES, SHE HAD REPORTED TO THIS COMMITTEE BACK THIS SUMMER AND HAD ANTICIPATED HAVING NEW DATA AVAILABLE IN OCTOBER AND NOW I THINK THEY DELAYED HER REPORTING OF THAT TO THE TOWN FIRST UNTIL SOMETIME IN DECEMBER. SO WE PROBABLY WON'T GET OUR HANDS ON IT TO DISCUSS IT UNTIL JANUARY. BUT THAT'S HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA THIS EXACTLY WHAT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. YES.

GREAT. >> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH HER AND FINDING OUT ABOUT THAT SITE CALLED DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.

SO PROBABLY JANUARY. OK. SO I'LL KIND OF DO A ROUGH SKETCH OF WHAT I THINK BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS HERE AND THE INFORMATION I HAVE HERE AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO THE COMMITTEE AND GIVE THAT TO Y'ALL VIA EMAIL SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY TIMELINE AND HAVING A PLAN IN PLACE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE 45 DAY NUMBERS I ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD CHANGE THIS SLIGHTLY. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WE USE, OK? YEAH. IF WE COULD GET THE NUMBERS FOR THE 20, 20, 21 AND THE UPDATED BUILDING CAPACITY PROGRAM CAPACITY NUMBERS BASED ON THE RIVER RIDGE AND MAY RIVER

PROJECT BEING COMPLETED THAT WOULD HELP AS WELL. >> THIS KIND OF FLOWS NICELY TO

[Discussion of Future Agenda Topics]

ITEM H ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE TOPICS. >> SO LET'S REVISIT THIS AGAIN IF WE CAN AT THE NEXT MEETING. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION AND I'LL HAVE SOME TYPE OF ROUGH DRAFT UP A A TIMELINE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CONTRIBUTIONS OR INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT TO SEND TO ME FOR THAT. GREAT.

OR ANY INPUT? ANY OTHER AGENDA TOPICS I ASSUME THE TOWN UPDATE WOULD BE ON OUR JANUARY AGENDA. AND I ALSO NEED TO DISCUSS THE THE DATE FOR NEXT MEETING ROBIN. THE NEXT DATE IS DECEMBER. 17TH LARRY.

I WAS. WE WE CAN DO IT THE 17TH. >> WHAT TIME YOU WANT TO DO IT?

>> I THINK WE NORMALLY MEET UP FOR THIS MEETING US SWITCHED AROUND BECAUSE OF OCTOBER.

SO 4:00 P.M. ON THE 17TH IS I BELIEVE WHEN WE'RE REGULARLY SCHEDULED TO MEET.

IS THAT ACCURATE? NO, WE WILL READILY BE SCHEDULED TO MEET ON THE 24TH.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE IT A WEEK AHEAD SINCE THE 24TH WOULD NOT

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SO IF EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH THE 17TH, DOES ANYONE HAVE CONFLICT WITH THE 17TH?

>> GOOD. MISS CRUTCHFIELD, DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? YEAH, THAT'S FINE. SO I'LL PUT IT DOWN THEN THE 70S THOUGH AND PRAGUE AT 4

O'CLOCK ON THE 17TH. >> YES MA'AM. >> OK, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE TOPIC THAT WOULD BE BRINGING BACK THE COHORT GRAPH WITH UPDATED NUMBERS.

CORRECT? YES, I MUST. TANYA GETS ANY INFORMATION ON THOSE QUESTIONS ON THAT. THE IMPACT FEES AND IF IT DIDN'T COME TO ONE OF OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETINGS I BELIEVE WE HAVE MEETING ON THE 8TH.

SO YEAH, IF IT'S COMING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT. I DON'T THINK GREAT.

THE ONE QUESTION I'M ASSUMING THAT COME JANUARY THIS COMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE ON AS SET UP IS THAT IT IS AT A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION. IT USUALLY ESSENCE IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. AND YES BECAUSE YOU NEITHER ONE OF YOU WOULD BE A NEW MEMBER.

NOW MORE MEMBERS COULD BE INVITED TO ATTEND. OF THE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS BUT YES, YOU TWO WOULD STILL BE AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE I KIND OF LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE KIND OF HAVE SOME CONTINUITY. GO FORWARD ON THIS AND I'D HATE TO SEE US START ALL OVER WITH

FOLKS AND EVERYTHING SO ADDING PEOPLE WOULD BE GREAT. >> YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT AS LONG AS RACHEL STAYS AS A CHAIR I'M HAPPY.

>> WELL, AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM.

IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MOVED

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