Nov 18, 2020 Board of Education - Academics Committee

[Call to Order]

[Pledge of Allegiance]

[Approval of Agenda]

[Approval of the October 21, 2020 Committee Meeting Minutes]

[Continuation of PE 1.9]

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WELL. YEAH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE WERE ACCURATE

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SO THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY ANY REQUEST. >> DEFINITELY.

AND ALSO MAY I ASK WHOEVER IS ON THE IPHONE COULD YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF?

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ATTENDING THE MEETING BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO ALL IS IN ATTENDANCE. SO IF YOU ARE JOINING US BY PHONE, WE OBSERVE AS AN EYEFUL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. OK, GO AHEAD, MISS ANDERSON. THANK YOU.

UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION AND IT WAS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS YOURS, TRICIA. SO ARE ALL THESE COUNSELORS FULL TIME BECAUSE I WAS THINKING WELL MAYBE SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, GO THERE FOR COUNSELORS. MAYBE TWO OF THEM ARE PART TIME .

YOU KNOW, MAKE ONE POSITION OR ALL THESE FULL TIME COURSES IN THE DISTRICT FOR A TIME.

WE HAVE NO STAFF COUNSELORS IN THE DISTRICT. HOWEVER, AS OF RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE COUNSELOR THAT'S ASSIGNED TO WRITE TO US. BUT THAT COUNSELOR IS FILLING IN AT HILTON HIGH SCHOOL. WE HAD A SCHOOL COUNSELOR TO RESIGN AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR BEGAN BECAUSE THERE ARE NO KIDS AT RIGHT CHOICE. WE PUT HER TO BE AT HIGH SCHOOL

. >> BUT THE SAME THING THAT TRICIA NOTICED AND MASS DIDN'T

SEEM RIGHT. >> BUT ALL THE FOUR TIME I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL.

>> DO THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE THE CAREER DEVELOPMENT FACILITATORS OR NOT?

THEY DO NOT. >> THE LIKE DOESN'T IS ALLOWED TO BE A CAREER DEVELOPMENT.

FACILITATORS CANNOT COUNSEL COUNSELORS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SCHOOL COUNSELORS.

>> OK, GREAT. >> HELP ME. >> ONE OF THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT WELL-BRED MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE WE COULD GO DOWN NEAR THE BOTTOM FOR THAT WELL-BRED MIDDLE SCHOOL. YES, THERE ARE FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS AT WELL-BRED MIDDLE SCHOOL. THERE IS ONE COUNSELOR THERE AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH AND A TOTAL OF THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT STUDENTS WITH ONE COUNSELOR.

>> THE NEXT QUESTION WAS MEETING ABOUT BLUFFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

>> IF WE COULD GO BACK UP TO BLUFFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT THERE JUST RIGHT THERE, ROBIN.

THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY THREE STUDENTS AND THERE ARE TWO COUNSELORS THERE AT BLUFFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL . IT'S A QUESTION.

YES. I DON'T KNOW. I'M LOOKING I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY SCHOOLS ARE NOT WHO HAVE BEEN THERE. THE STATE RECOMMENDS.

STATION COME IN THERE AND THERE IS NO PRECISE. THERE'S NO SCHOOL.

THERE ARE EVEN 300 ONE MILLION QUALIFICATION 300 OR LESS. >> SO OH MORE THAN 300 MIDDLE HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS WILL BRANCHES 358. THAT'S A BIT HIGH END BUT IT'S

KEEPING THE STUDENTS OVER THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. >> AND WE WANT AND I WOULD TELL YOU WORKING WITH H.R. ARE THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANOTHER SCHOOL COUNSELOR THERE BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR WELL, I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY I WOULD SAY IF

WE'RE GOING TO. >> WE HAVE. I WILL I WOULD SAY YES.

WELL IT'S OVER ONE OR TWO STUDENTS APPROXIMATELY 75 PERCENT OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE AS

WE CAN SEE ON THIS THIS THIS ONE AS WELL. >> BUT YOU KNOW, THIS YEAH THAT'S THAT'S FINE TO KNOW AND I UNDERSTAND WHY BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE MY NEXT POINT WOULD BE WHAT IS THAT NATIONAL? NO.

I MEAN NO I'M I SEE CONSTANTLY WE MEASURE OURSELVES WITH STATE STANDARDS.

THE STATE TRADITIONALLY HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHAT IS ACADEMIC PRACTICE GOOD ACADEMIC PRESS PRACTICE. NATURALLY THOUGH WE WOULDN'T BE SO LOW IN OUR NATIONAL SCORES.

SO WHAT'S THE NATIONAL RATIO THAT YOU HAVE THAT ON AND OR ARE I WANT THE NATIONAL STANDARD RECOMMENDATION FOR THE AMERICAN SCHOOL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATION IS TWO HUNDRED AND

FIFTY TO ONE. >> OK, SO THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ILLUMINATE THAT NUMBER A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. WELL IT'S 368 10 AND A SEPARATE SET THIS SET.

SO I'VE I'M JUST TAKING A LONGER TIME LONGER LINE OF TIME .

WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING DRAWING CLOSER TO THEIR NATIONAL NORM DOWN FURTHER AWAY FROM IT PARTICULARLY THESE TIMES SQUARE, THE CONSTELLATION OF GUIDANCE.

THIS IS SO, SO MUCH SO IMPORTANT THIS TIME. >> I THINK I AGREE, MR. KAPLAN

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THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE REVISE OUTMODED LAWS AND REGULATIONS REGARDING STUDENT THE RATIO AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL.

AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST AND REALISTIC AND WE'RE WELL AWARE 800 TO 1 AND WE CAN SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE FOR ELEMENTARY. AND THE QUESTION HAVE KIND OF COUNSELOR THIS CAME UP AT THE STATE LEVEL EFFECTIVELY SERVICE THAT MANY STUDENTS ONE SCHOOL COUNSELOR OR YOU KNOW THIS IS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WAS HISTORY THAT THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS DON'T NEED A COUNSELOR. SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE TREND OF THOUGHT THAT IS CHANGED SO MUCH. AND THOSE STUDENTS THE STUDENTS NEED NOW TO TELL THE STATES THE ALWAYS LAGGING BEHIND, YOU KNOW, IS LAGGING BEHIND WHERE THE WORLD IS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENTS DISTRICT OUT OF THE CAR OF THE

SON OF . THANK YOU, DR. STRATOS. >> MY QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED HOW MANY STATES ARE COMPLYING TO THE NATIONAL STANDARD AND IS THAT NATIONAL STANDARD FOR ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR ASPIES ACROSS THE BOARD TO

50 TO 1? >> SO THE QUESTION THEN IS HOW MANY? AND MAYBE IT'S TOO BROAD OF A QUESTION HOW MANY STATES ARE ALIGNED TO THAT NATIONAL PRACTICE? AND I WOULD BE TO ABOUT THE STRATEGY.

I WOULD BE ON SOUTH CAROLINA. I MEAN I COULD FIND THAT OUT BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I MY MY DEFINITELY CONSOLES ME YOURSELF. YOUR LINE IS THAT THE NATIONAL STANDARD AS WE KNOW IS IS LOWER BECAUSE IT IS RESEARCH BASED. THOSE NUMBERS AS MR. CAMPBELL MENTIONED WITH THE NEED THAT HAS BROADENED FOR STUDENTS IN REGARDS TO SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELFARE AND PROVIDING THOSE STRATEGIES INTERVENTIONS THAT SOMETIMES DISRUPT LEARNING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND I WOULD TELL YOU AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL UNLIKE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE STILL HAVE THOSE CHALLENGES, IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES EARLY BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THEM EARLIER EARLIER WHILE THEY ARE AT ELEMENTARY LEVEL, WHETHER THAT'S ACADEMIC BEHAVIOR ATTENDANCE, WHATEVER THOSE BARRIERS MAY BE, WE KNOW THEY WILL IMPACT THE LEARNING AT EVERY LEVEL THEIR CHILD

CONTINUES ON TO WITH THAT RECOGNITION. >> VERY.

I ALSO KNOW THAT BETWEEN MTF FOR BEHAVIORAL ACADEMICS AND THE INTEGRATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS BEHAVIOR MANAGEMENT SPECIALISTS INTERVENTIONS AT OUR SCHOOLS SITES I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME WORK IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE GET FUNDING TO A LEVEL THAT LET THAT HELPS TO DECREASE THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DO SEE SOME ELEMENTARY I HAVE TWO COUNSELORS ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT AT THE 800 THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW TO IMPROVE OUR INTEGRATION OF SERVICES WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND I THINK WE STARTED THAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH MRS. CLINTON AND LOOKING AT A BROADER CAST OF NET PANORAMA TRAINING AND ACL INTEGRATION INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND TO CONTRIBUTE WHAT YOU MENTIONED DOCTORS STRATUS MRS. SMITH AND THEN I WORK REAL CLOSE TOGETHER IN REGARDS TO THE SOCIAL WORKERS, THE BEHAVIORS MANAGEMENT SPECIALTIES A LOT OF OUR TRAINING IS JOINT TRAINING AND DEFINITELY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PANORAMA I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THE DISTRICT DID THIS SUMMER AND IT WAS A REQUEST FROM ALL PARTIES CONCERNED TO HAVE A UNIFIED SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL TOOL.

>> WELL WE CAN SUPPORT STUDENTS, IDENTIFY THE NEED AND ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS WITHOUT RESEARCH BASED STRATEGIES AND PENTAGRAM. IS THAT TOOL THAT THAT DEFINITELY ANSWERS THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN AT THE SCHOOL WAS SUSPENDED THE TRADITIONAL FORMAT IN MARCH AND AGAIN THE BEHAVIOR OF SPECIALISTS AS A MATTER OF FACT WE JUST WENT IN AND I'M MEETING TOMORROW THE SAME SUBJECT US TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN EVEN WORK CLOSER TO ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE WITH OUR STUDENTS AND QUESTIONING WAS JUST TO DRIVE TO BRING THAT AWARENESS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL LAYERS RECOGNIZING THE PERSONNEL SHIFT AND THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSE WITH THEM AS THIS WENT THROUGH HISTORY WITH THEM BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN FUNDING FOR SOME INITIATIVES TO HELP OUR KIDS AND AS AS A MATTER OF RECORD ALSO WHAT CAME UP LAST MONTH ON PAGE 15 ROBIN IS A LIST OF OUR STUDENTS THAT RTI PLANS HAVE HAVE BEEN INITIATED ON THIS

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SCHOOL YEAR. >> THE DATA WAS NOT UP TO DATE. WE HAVE LAST SCHOOL YEAR DATA BUT WE ALSO HERE AS OF NOVEMBER 4 WE HAVE ONE THOUSAND AND SIXTY THREE STUDENTS IN RTI PLANS. THERE ARE THE SCHOOLS LISTED THERE IN FRONT OF US AND ONE OF THE INDICATORS WHERE ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS USED TO INITIATE RTI PLAN IS DEFINITELY NEAR THAT FIRST PROGRESS REPORT IN THE AT THE END OF THAT FIRST MARKING PERIOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE WANT TO IDENTIFY DEFINITELY SEE WHERE THERE'S A PATTERN WHERE A STUDENT INTERVENTION WHETHER IT'S ACADEMIC CLASSROOM LEVEL OR WE NEED TO PUT RTI TEAM IN PLACE THAT INCLUDE ALL TEACHERS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT GRADES ACROSS THE BOARD IN PRINCIPALS WEEKLY DATA MEETINGS TO MONITOR STUDENTS. YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL WORKERS ARE INVOLVED WITH ATTENDANCE SO THAT THOSE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD REFLECT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN ENRICHED OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE RTI AND THAT IS BETTER PENDING OR BEING INITIATED ON THOSE

STUDENTS. >> AND AS I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPALS I GOT UP THE FOLLOWING ONE THIS MORNING AND I ASKED WHY WAS THE NUMBER ZERO IN THE CASE?

>> AND THIS PRINCIPAL SHARED WITH YEAH, WE MET WITH THE RTI TEAM ON YESTERDAY WHEN THE PROCESS OF INITIATING RTI PLANS ON THOSE STUDENTS AND IT HAS BEEN A PATTERN WHERE WE GREATEST CHALLENGE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS STUDENTS AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE NEAR THE END OF THE MARKET PERIOD OR NEAR THE END OF THE SEMESTER BECAUSE WITH THOSE STUDENTS AS WE ARE WHERE THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO EARN CREDITS THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO MEET SOUTH CAROLINA GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS.

MISS ANDERSON, CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION PLEASE? YES.

OK. SO DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS OF RTI PLANS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN INITIATED THIS SCHOOL YEAR OR ARE THESE THE TOTAL NUMBER

OF PLANS THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE AT THESE SCHOOLS? >> BOTH THOSE ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER PLANS THAT EXIST IN THESE SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED. SOME OF THEM ARE CARRY OVER FROM NEXT MAGNET IF THEY WERE TWO OR THREE AND THE ISSUES WERE NOT RESOLVED, THEY ARE CARRYOVER FROM LAST YEAR ALSO AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEW PLANS BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE CARRY OVER. HOWEVER, AT THE END OF THE MARKING PERIOD TEAMS GOT TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY THOSE STUDENTS WHO WERE STRUGGLING IN THE AREAS THAT I MENTIONED TO INITIATE A PLAN. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PLANS ARE CARRY ON OVER TWO OR TWO

AND TWO OR THREE FROM LAST YEAR . >> SO I HAVE TO ASK YOU IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHAT DOES THIS DATA TELL YOU THIS DAY AND AND TO GIVE YOU MY PROFESSIONAL

OPINION. >> I KNOW THE SCHOOL YEAR ENDED EARLY WHEREAS THE FACE TO FACE INSTRUCTIONAL FORMAT THAT WAS A CONCERN WHEN I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATORS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO CARRY OUT THE SCHOOL YEAR UP UNTIL MARCH. I REALLY WILL BE CONCERNED TO SEE THESE NUMBERS DIMINISHED BY THE END OF THE FIRST SEMESTER OR DECEMBER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INDICATOR BECAUSE IF THOSE THOSE STUDENTS THAT WERE CARRYOVER TIER 2 AND 3, THESE NUMBERS SHOULD DEFINITELY DECREASE AND I WOULD TELL YOU THEY DID DECREASE FROM THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR NOT WHEN I TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATORS WHERE THEY ADDRESSED THEM IMMEDIATELY WHEN SCHOOL RETURNED. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A GREAT CONCERN AND I WOULD TELL THE INSTRUCTIONAL FORMAT FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN VIRTUAL AND HYBRID IT HAS IMPACTED LEARNING FOR SOME STUDENTS. SOME STUDENTS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE INSTRUCTIONAL FORMAT WHETHER HYBRID OR VIRTUAL.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU ALSO THERE ARE CHALLENGES FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO WERE ALREADY STRUGGLING AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING INSTRUCTION IN OUR VIRTUAL FORMAT.

BUT I WATCH AS I SHARED WITH THE PRINCIPAL EARLIER THIS MORNING AND HE SAID, JERRY, I HAVE A TEAM OF 15 MEMBERS AND WE ARE WORKING ON INTEGRATION AND WE'RE USING AND I WOULD SAY THE SCHOOLS JUST GOT THEIR TUTORING MONEY. AND HE SAID I HAVE HAD 15 PEOPLE TO WORK WITH MY STUDENTS AND I THINK IF ADOPTED STRATEGIES IF I'M CORRECT IN

TUTORING MONEY WAS DISTRIBUTED WITHIN THE LAST MONTH RICK. >> IT WAS DISTRIBUTED WITHIN THE LAST MONTH AND I WAS JUST DOING A COMPARISON ON SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS REGARDING THEM OTHER SOME OTHER DATA. BUT YES, THE TUTORING MONEY IS AVAILABLE AS WELL AS WE HAVE PROJECT ENGAGE THAT WE HAVE IN A BIND TO PUT A CRITERIA. I BELIEVE YOU WERE PART OF THAT MEETING WITH MRS. SWINTON. AND I'M BRETT FRITZ. EXCUSE ME I APOLOGIZE.

QUALIFIERS FOR SCHOOLS AND STUDENTS WHICH IS DUE TO STATE TO HELP GET IT.

I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT COACH THAT THE STATE IS ACTUALLY PAID ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR STIPEND FOR STUDENT AND WE'VE BEEN ALLOCATED FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN AVAILABLE SLOTS FOR OUR

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I REDUCE I HAD I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THIS, TRICIA. I HAVE MY ELECTRONIC HAND

RAISED IF YOU WANT TO JUST DO THIS TO BELOW I'M SORRY GUYS. >> YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATIVE. ABSOLUTELY. OK, SO LOW THE QUESTION AND THEN MEL, YOU ARE MEL, YOU CAN GO FIRST. MAYBE WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. NO, GO AHEAD. OK.

SO MY MY QUESTION IS I'M CONCERNED OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE LOW NUMBERS

OF KIDS IN RTI. >> I THINK THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN HAVE THAT.

DO YOU THAT LOW NUMBER OF KIDS STRUGGLING THAT NEED IT THAT NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT PARTICULARLY HILTON HEAD ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL. ALSO WHEN I BUT THEN I LOOK AT THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL FOR CREATIVE ARTS WHICH LOW IN TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY TOGETHER THEY ONLY HAVE NINE PLANS.

SO I GUESS I COULD ASSUME THAT BY THE TIME THOSE THOSE ARE EARLY IN THE GRADES WITH THOSE PLANS, BY THE TIME THEY EXIT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS LEAVING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITH PLANS. THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN FROM MY EXPERIENCE ONCE STUDENTS ARE ON AN RTI PLAN. IT TAKES MORE THAN A YEAR TO GET THEM OFF.

BUT SO THAT'S I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS THERE IS THERE PRESSURE ON SCHOOLS TO EXIT

KIDS FROM RTI BEFORE THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL? >> I WILL SAY THERE IS NOT BECAUSE THE RTI PLAN FOLLOW THE STUDENT RIGHT. THE STUDENT IS HAVING CHALLENGES. WE DON'T WANT THE EXIT. THE STUDENT TO EXIT THE PLAN NOT UNTIL HE OR SHE IS SUCCESSFUL. IT IS A DISSERVICE IF THAT OCCURS. AND I HAVE GONE TO THE SCHOOLS WITH COMMON BILLETED BROOKE ROWE AND WE'VE DONE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TEACHERS AND THE ADMINISTRATORS AND ADVANCE RTI . I'VE NEVER HAD A PERCEPTION THAT WAS THE CASE AT ANY SCHOOL THAT I'VE GONE TO. AND AS WE KNOW THE RTI PLANT IS INITIATIVE RATED BY THAT CLASSROOM TEACHER IN REGARDS TO ACADEMICS AND WE HAVE RTI COORDINATOR AT EACH SCHOOL WITHIN OUR DISTRICT WHO MONITOR THOSE PLANES.

>> CAPTAIN, MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF SIMILAR. WE FOLLOWING THE NUMBERS FROM ONE CLUSTER LEVEL TO ANOTHER CLUSTER LEVEL FROM THE ELEMENTARY TO THE MIDDLE

SCHOOLS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. >> FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE BECAUSE I HAD THOSE HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS ARE INCONCEIVABLE. I MEAN WE WENT THAT GREAT FROM ELEMENTARY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL YOU KNOW, OUTPUT. SO I MEAN I'M SORRY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THOSE

NUMBERS. >> THOSE NUMBERS MAKE A DRAMATIC DROP SO FAR FOR US FROM THE FROM THE ELEMENTARY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL IF YOU COMBINE THE CLUSTER NUMBERS AND THEN FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HIGH SCHOOL. WOW.

WHERE DID THEY GO? >> MR. CAMPBELL? I TOTALLY AGREE.

AND I AS I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, WE GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND CONDUCT TRAINING.

ONE OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES AND WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION YOU HAPPY HERE MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL THE STUDENTS NEED AS MUCH ASSISTANCE. AND I'VE DONE ALL MY YEARS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AS MUCH AS THOSE STUDENTS IN FIRST GRADE. IN REGARD TO THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, WHEN A CHILD WHEN AN RTI PLAN STARTED ON A STUDENT IT NEVER GOES AWAY AND YOU REACH A SCHOOL CAN GO BACK AND GO TO A PLAY AND SEE IF A CHILD HAD A PLAN FOR FIRST LET'S SAY 3RD GRADE AT BROAD RIVER. AND IF THAT CHILD MOVES OR PARENTS RELOCATE TO THE BEAUFORT MIDDLE SCHOOL AREA, I STILL WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT PLAY OUT REGARDLESS OF THE SCHOOL LEVEL. THE PLAN NEVER GOES AWAY.

AND SO THE SCHOOL CAN SEE THE PLAN, THE HISTORICAL DATA AND ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE IN REGARDS

TO A STUDENT PLAN AT ANY GIVEN TIME IT NEVER GOES AWAY. >> BUT LOOK FOR MOST THAT PUT JERRY. YES, THAT THAT IS A CHILD. JOHN BROWN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE THIRD GRADER WILL BE ADMITTED WILL BRANCH ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE HAS BEEN

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HAVING TROUBLE WITH HIS INTERNET. >> SO HE MIGHT CUT IN AND OUT A LITTLE BIT. INTERNET TALKING IN THIS AMAZING ANDREW.

HERE WE GO. NOW WE MISSED A GREAT PART OF THAT BECAUSE YOU YOU WERE

NOT TRANSLATE THAT STATIC, RIGHT? >> YEAH, WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THESE CHILDREN CHILDREN WITH FACES AND NAMES, WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM WHEN ALL OF THAT DATA IS MINIMIZED BY THE TIME THEY GET THE RISE SCHOOL UP THE WE ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT KIND OF PROGRESS WITH THESE NAMES FOR THESE CHILDREN.

>> AND I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER AND THIS IS ME JUST TALKING AND I LOOK AT THE DATA DOES DOES THAT CHILD THAT NEED A SYSTEM? DOES IT GO AWAY AND IS MIRACULOUS BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE HAPPENED AT THE HEIGHT THAT TOWN SO HAPPENED THE NIGHT OF 10TH 11TH GRADE? NO, IT DOES NOT. DOES THAT ARE THE OCCASIONS WHERE A STUDENT DEFINITELY WHETHER THEY WHERE THEIR PLANS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED. OF COURSE.

BUT THE THE THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT STILL NEED THAT ASSISTANCE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

AND I SAY THAT I'M WORKING AT HIGH SCHOOLS. THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WE'RE GOING TO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS AND I KNOW CARMEN AND BROOKE IS PREPARING TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND HAVE TRAINING WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE TEACHERS. BUT IT HAS TO BE IT HAS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH EVERYONE AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S A BEST SERVICE OTHERWISE WHEN THAT RTI PLAN IS NOT RTI PROGRAM IS NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM

FROM CLASSROOM TO ADMINISTRATOR . >> THAT'S JUST GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO HEAR BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THESE KIDS. FOR THESE STUDENTS, SOMEBODY OVER SAY HEY, WHAT HAPPENED? HE'S NOT DOING ALL GREAT LOOKING AT OUR GRADUATION NUMBERS, I LOOKED AT THOSE TOO WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE CHILDREN ARE DOING ALL THAT GREAT, DOES NOT NEED ASSISTANCE BECAUSE OUR OUR GOOD STUDENTS ARE DOING ALL THAT GREAT.

SO LET'S LET'S LET'S LOOK AT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, FROM A SYSTEMIC STANDPOINT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, STRATOS AND VIEWING THESE NUMBERS AND WE KNOW WE BE INCOME SHARES REPORT AS WELL BECAUSE A SIMILAR TREND.

>> YES. SO FLIP FROM LAST YEAR WITH THAT RECOGNITION.

>> AS WE PUT IN THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING A HEARING OFFICER, THEIR JOB IS ACTUALLY A COORDINATOR OF STUDENT RESOURCES AND PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS NOW MONITORING THE EMPTY ASSESS A BEHAVIOR OR THE MTF SAYS YOU KNOW, INCLUDING ATTENDANCE AND THAT THEN THAT IS MET MEREDITH MACK. SHE'S NOT ABLE TO JOIN US TODAY SUBJECT TO AN EYE SURGERY BUT THAT IS ONE OF HER RESPONSIBILITIES NOW PUT THAT COUNTERPOINT IN. SO AS THESE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE SEEING THIS TREND OF DEATH NUMBERS NOT SHIFTING FROM YEAR TO YEAR DO NOT PUT IN AN APPLICATION.

ALSO NOW AND CHILDREN ALL OF A SUDDEN NEED TO BE IN AN ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM AND WE ARE RECOGNIZING AND MONITORING THAT . THE MTA SAYS HER BEHAVIOR IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED. THE OTHER THING WE'VE PUT IN PLACE IS MONTHLY MONITORING OF ATTENDANCE AND SENDING THOSE REPORTS TO SCHOOLS TO PRINCIPALS SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE MONITORING IT LEVEL AND SENDING IT OUT TO THE SCHOOL.

SO RIGHT. AND WE'RE MONITORING AND ASKING YOU QUESTIONS.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THAT CONSCIOUS LEVEL TO SAY HEY, YOU NEED TO DO BECAUSE IT IS EVIDENT BY WELL BRANCH REALLY COLLEGE THAT WE CAN DO THIS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SHOULD BE EXECUTING A LEVEL OF MTA SAYS FOR ALL OUR KIDS ESPECIALLY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GRADUATION.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY MODELS AT OUR LEVEL SO THAT WE JUST DON'T

HAVE THIS CONTINUATION OF CERTAIN BEHAVIOR. >> AND MR. CAN'T YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH THE GRADUATION NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE BEEN LOOKING AT CERTAIN TRENDS. WE MAY HAVE HAD SOME SLIGHT AT SOME SCHOOLS AS WELL.

GRADUATION IS A RELATIONSHIP. I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT BIGGER TO SAY IT AS A CORRELATE BUT I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTARY. WOULD YOU JUST PUT BOTH WITH THAT AS WELL WHICH WE HAVE PUT A FEW PIECES IN PLACE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU DR. STRATOS. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING VERY OPEN ABOUT THIS.

WHEN I SAW THESE NUMBERS I WAS DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THEY ARE A REPLICATE OF LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S VERY DISCOURAGING WHEN EMPTY SS ALSO KNOWN AS RTI IS BEING TOUTED AS OUR ANSWER TO THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP. AND IT'S BEING TALLIED AS THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE

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I DO WONDER IS THIS INFORMATION SHARED WITH OUR PRINCIPALS? DO THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS CHART SO THEY YOU KNOW, ARE DOING SOME SELF ANALYSIS TO SAY OH WOW, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING, MRS. HAPPY. BUT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, WE DID SEND OUT ACTUALLY FROM OUR DIVISION WORK AND I IS GOING TO GIVE CONFIRMATION WE HAVE WE ARE NOW SENDING DISINFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOLS WITH YOU KNOW, SAYING HEY, AND THAT'S WHY JERRY IS ABLE TO GIVE RESPONSE BACK TO WHAT SOME SCHOOLS ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A PUT

IN PLACE. WE ARE NOT BEING SHY. >> I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND I ALSO HEARD MR. HENDERSON SAY, YOU KNOW, THE RTI PROCESS PROCESS STARTS WITH THE TEACHER. WELL, YES, THAT IS VERY TRUE AS WELL AS EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE KIDS STARTS WITH THE TEACHER.

BUT BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT TEACHERS OFTENTIMES DON'T PUT THE DATA IN BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER DEMANDS. IF EVERY SCHOOL HAS AN RTI COORDINATOR, THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE SEEING. I TOTALLY AGREE, MRS. FRIEDRICHS IN A ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT I SPOKE WITH WAS VERY CANDID AND AND I'M GOING TO BE EQUALLY AS CANDID AND I AND I SHARED WITH THIS IT WAS A HIGH SCHOOL AS AND WE HAVE HAD ISSUES AND RTI HAVE NOT BEEN EMBRACED AND IMPLEMENTED AS IT CHEERED.

AND WE'VE CONDUCTED TRAINING AND THAT WAS THE INDIVIDUAL I SPOKE WITH SAID I AM THE NEW TO AD COORDINATOR HERE. AND I SHARED WITH HER THAT I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH HER AND AS AND BECAUSE IT IS IT IS OBVIOUS WHERE THE TRANCE LIE. AGAIN, NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

THE NUMBERS ARE CONSISTENT WITH LAST AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. WELL, I THINK ALSO WE NOTED LAST YEAR TO SOME OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SUPPORTERS OF POINT AND SO YOU KNOW, RTI HAS BEEN IN THIS DISTRICT FOR A DOZEN YEARS AND NOW IT'S UNDER A NEW NAME OF EMPTY SS ST..

>> SO IT'S A LITTLE DISCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW AND TO SEE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT OUR ONE BIG INITIATIVE TO HELP WITH THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP, TO HELP WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT LIVING UP TO THEIR POTENTIAL. I MEAN IT'S IT'S OBVIOUS WHERE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET THIS PROGRAM WHICH EVERYONE TOUTS AS THE WAY TO DO IT. TRYING TO GET IT TO BE MORE

EFFECTIVE. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING THAT I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT ON THE SENTIMENT ON THESE THESE LADIES ON TOP OF LOW BALL BUT IT ALSO ILLUSTRATES A LOT OF DISCONNECT IN TERMS OF OUR CULTURE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING. YES.

I MEAN THOSE NUMBERS ARE TO KIND OF TELL ME THAT HEY, THERE IS NO ASSISTANT YOU FACE THAT YOU'RE ON YOUR WRONG. AND THAT'S A TREND TO YOU KNOW, TO LEAVE IN SOMEWHAT OF PROCESS SO. OK. YOU KNOW, ELEVATING SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS, SOME OF SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WHEREAS YOU YOU JUST MISSED THEM BY THE TIME IN HIGH SCHOOL AND NOW AS THE DROPOUT RATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT IT'S CLEARLY A CULTURE THAT WE NEED TO TO EXAMINE MAN JUST NOW IT'S NOT HAPPENING AT THE LEVEL THOSE HIGH THOSE NUMBERS ARE SHOWING THOSE SHIFTS ARE SHOWING THAT WE LEADERS AT HILTON HEAD AT ALL AND THEY DROP BLUFFED THEM FURTHER TIME. THEY START OUT TO EDDIE.

AND SO I MEAN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THOSE WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

YEAH. SO I WILL SAY IN ADDITION TO RTI BEFORE A STUDENT PLAYS A PREDATORS INITIATIVE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER DEFINITELY WITH THE TOURING FUND WE DO HAVE BEFORE SCHOOL AFTER SCHOOL AND THAT IS WHEN THOSE STUDENTS HAVE PLANS THAT IS NOTATED IN THE PLAN. BUT FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE TIER 1 THAT A PLAN HAS NOT BEEN INITIATED. WE DO HAVE BEFORE SCHOOL AFTER SCHOOL AND IS GOING ON NOW A VIRTUAL FORMAT. AND I WOULD I KNOW POINTS TO THAT WELL BRANCH NO.

BUT IS PHYSICAL WEAR ON AND THEY HAVE SATURDAY SCHOOL. WHEN I WAS IN OUR BRANCH.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS CONTINUED OVER THE YEARS. AND AS I MENTIONED TO THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH IN THE LAST WEEK, IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT THAT THE PROBLEM BE EMBRACED AND CONDUCTED WITH FIDELITY. OTHERWISE WE FACE THE CHALLENGES WE DO WITH THOSE STUDENTS WHO STRUGGLE AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY WHETHER THAT'S COLLEGE WORKFORCE OR THE MILITARY. AND WE NEED TO DIMINISH THOSE BARRIERS AS WE SEE THEM AND THE

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DEPARTMENT. >> SO TO SAY ONE WILL COME AT IT, YOU KNOW, TERMS OF EMPTY IS THAT YOU EITHER LEAVE AND LEAVE TWO OR THREE OR YOU DON'T LEAVE TO THREE.

YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SO IF WE'RE DOING GOOD THEN WE DON'T NEED TWO OR THREE.

THIS THIS INTERVENTION MODEL IS NOT SUFFICE FOR LAST YEAR AGAIN AND KATHY, YOU WANT IT? YES, I AM JUST YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT EVERY SECONDARY ADMINISTRATOR, EVERY SECONDARY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FAILURES QUARTERLY AND ANYBODY WHO'S FAILED IS NOT MAKING IT IN TIER ONE RIGHT WHEN THEY SHOULD BE ELEVATED TO TIER 2. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE KIND HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE. YOU'VE SEEN IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE WOULD WAIT A WHOLE QUARTER. BUT IF THAT'S HAPPENING THEN CERTAINLY AT THE END OF THAT QUARTER SOME ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE NOT KIND OF STATED FIRMLY THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR KIDS THAT FAILED AND THEY ARE NOW IN A LEVEL TO AND WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THEM AND THIS ROBOT. IT CANNOT WAIT TO THE END OF THE MARKET PERIOD.

THAT'S GENERALLY WHEN YOU INITIATE THE PACKAGE. HOWEVER, DATA REVIEW MEETING SHOULD BE HAPPENING EVERY WEEK. WHEN WHEN WHEN A DATA TEAM GETS TOGETHER AND REVIEW DATA FOR THE PAST WEEK, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ATTENDANCE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT ACADEMICS.

IS THIS STUDENT FALLING OFF? OK, TEACHER, TELL ME WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PUT ACTIVITIES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THAT STUDENTS? THAT'S WHY DATUM. ANY ANY AS WE KNOW WITH EDUCATION DATA DRIVES ANY DRIVES EVERYTHING REGARDING TO A STUDENT INDIVIDUALLY AND ALSO THE SUCCESS OF A SCHOOL AS A WHOLE. THAT'S WHY THE DATA TEAM MEETINGS ARE SO ESSENTIAL. NOT ONCE EVERY OTHER WEEK IS IMPORTANT EVERY WEEK BECAUSE STUDENTS LIVES ARE IMPACTED EVERY WEEK WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING AT HOME OR AT SCHOOL SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE CHALLENGES IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY ESCALATE TO SOMETHING

MAJOR DOCTOR STRATEGIES. >> ONE QUESTION A FEW COMMENTS. GENERALLY AT THE SCHOOLS SITE THE MTA SAYS COORDINATE IS ALLOCATED BY THE RESPONSIBILITIES BY THE PRINCIPAL. CORRECT. MRS. HENDERSON, YOU DROPPED THE POLICY TO BE AN ADMINISTRATOR ALREADY HAS TO BE CERTIFIED ADMINISTRATOR.

>> SO YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM BUT THE COORDINATORS SHOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATOR.

>> RIGHT. BUT THE CONTACT SHOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATOR WHERE THE COUNSELORS RIGHT. OR MEMBERS OF THE TEAM FOR SUPPORT.

CORRECT. HOUSE SOCIAL WORKER'S BEHAVIOR MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST.

>> SO MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TRY TO PULL FOCUS? FOR EXAMPLE, I PROVIDE I DO MONITOR THE DISTRICT DISTRIBUTION OF ATTENDANCE AND GRADE DISTRIBUTION BY SCHOOL AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER ITEMS. MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE MAYBE DO SOME TYPE OF MEETING AND GET DR. CAMPBELL INVOLVED SHOWING THIS PAGE AS WELL AS LAST YEAR PAGE AND THEN LOOKING AT REALLY DEFINING THE ELIGIBILITY OF EMPTY ASSESS. RIGHT. AND REALLY ASKING NOT POINTING FINGERS BUT ASKING FIRST YOU KNOW WHAT ACTIONS ARE YOU TAKING? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? NOW WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER? BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE A SCOPE BY WHICH SHOULD BE BETTER. SO CAN WE MAYBE LOOK PULLING THESE CONTACTS IN FOR MEETINGS ONCE WE GET THROUGH A FEW A FEW OF THE SLIDES OF YOU KNOW X JAN FOURTH IN SCHOOLS WE SETTLE AGAIN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JERRY.

I REALLY DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PUSHING TO THE SCHOOLS YOU KNOW THE ADAPTIVE FEEDBACK STRATEGY REPORT THAT WE'RE PUTTING DATA TOGETHER AT LENGTH TO GO TO SCHOOL VISITATIONS FROM THE DISTRICT LEVEL BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SCHOOLS PRESENT INFORMATION TO US FIRST AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE PRESENTING TO US AND THEN WORK TOGETHER THAT FEEDBACK GOING BACK OF WHAT YOU SEE. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET YOUR MINDSET IN YOUR . YOUR REVIEW.

DID YOU PRESENT YOUR MP ASSESS INFORMATION AND GOD. AND I WILL PROBABLY SAY THERE MAY BE SOME SCHOOLS THAT AREN'T. AND THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE VERY HIGH ON THIS TAP TABLE WE'LL BE SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH US.

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RIGHT FROM OUR ARABISM GO FORWARD. WHAT DO YOU THINK, JERRY? I TOTALLY AGREE. I HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND IT CANNOT JUST BE LEFT UP TO THE TEACHER OR THE RPI CALLED NO. AND I WILL SAY THIS AND I'VE OBSERVED AND I'VE TALKED TO MRS. DIXON ON MANY OCCASIONS WHEN I TALK ABOUT A WEEKLY DATA MEETING I CAN TELL YOU ON MONDAY MORNING AFTER STUDENTS ARE SETTLED IN CLASS SHE CONDUCTS HER WEEKLY BAY MEETING. WELL, BRANCH HAS APPROXIMATELY 450 STUDENTS. THAT TELLS ME THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE HAVING CHALLENGES THAT 61 STUDENT THEY ARE THEY'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED. RESTART SHOWS THAT APPROXIMATELY 10 PERCENT OF YOUR STUDENTS SHOULD HAVE AN RTI PLAN.

THAT TELLS ME A WELL BRANCH IS DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. YES.

>■> YES.&-PSO MISSANDERSON, BE&E STUDENTS ALSO. SO IT DOESN'T END BECAUSE THE

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SCHOOL AND THE NEED TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT

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>> SO AS TO THEIR COMP TIME GOES ON TO THE NEXT YEAR IS WHAT YOU MEAN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING DOING THE SUMMERTIME. YES WOULD HAVE TO BE.

YES. DOCTOR'S ROOMS SAY DIVIDES WE WORK AND I RECOGNIZED THAT WE WOULD PUT IN PLACE THIS ACT THIS YEAR AS A MEANS OF COMPENSATING PRIMARY TWO COUNSELORS AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AT A MINIMUM.

>> SECONDARY COUNSELORS NEED 10 EXTRA DAYS TO OPERATE BEYOND COMPETING SCHEDULES.

YOU HAVE NEW REGISTRATIONS HAPPENING AS WELL SIMULTANEOUS .

AND THOSE CHILDREN NEED TO BE SKEPTICAL. SO IT BECOMES RATHER CHALLENGING. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WE ARE PUSHING FORWARD BACK TO THAT AS WE GET INTO BUDGETING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION NOT TO CHANGE THEIR CONTRACTED BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY HAS AN IMPACT ON SOME STATUS BUT BEING ABLE TO GIVE THEM DAY EXTRA DUTY DAYS OR A STIPEND SO WE DON'T CHANGE THEIR H.R. STATUS SO THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE NEEDS OF THE SCHOOLS ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSIENT CHILDREN, FAMILIES MOVING IN AND OUT. OK. THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATION. BOTH OF YOU. >> I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS.

I KNOW THAT PARTICULARLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THE COUNSELORS HAVE TO DO ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY REALLY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SCHEDULING PROCESS UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE IS THEY'RE TAKING RIBAUT SCHEDULING PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERY CHILD IS SCHEDULED AS A SCHEDULE THAT WORKS AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY HOLES IN IT AND HAS ALL THE CLASSES THEY NEED. THOSE ARE THE KEY POINTS MY EXPERIENCE WITH COMP TIME IS EDUCATORS OFTEN DON'T EVER COLLECT ON CAMERA TIME AND IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MESSY EVEN TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU KNOW YOU TELL YOU OK OK I'VE GIVEN YOU'VE GOT FIVE COMP DAYS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN THEY WANT TO TAKE HIM YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR CALENDAR VILLAIN. OK. NOW EVEN ON A FRIDAY YOU CAN'T TAKE IT ON A MONDAY. AND SO THOSE TYPE ISSUES CROP UP.

I WAS THE SMALLEST FOR, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING GIVING EXTENDED DAYS WITH COMPENSATION.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU FOUND A WAY TO DO IT THAT THERE'S A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE PERHAPS. I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK THAT'S I SEE THE NEED

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BRINGING THEM BACK AND NOT GIVING THEM FULL COMPENSATION. >> SO DID THIS REALLY IS WHAT I WAS I WAS ALLUDING TO AT THAT TIME WHEN WE WERE WHERE WE WERE APPROVING THE CALIBER AND SO DID THIS. THIS IS EXACTLY THIS WAS WHAT I WAS A LITTLE I WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST THIS WAS NOT HEALTHY FOR US TO DO YOUR STAFF MEMBERS BECAUSE A TIME COULD BE LIKE YOU SLACK OFF A GUY. MRS. RABINOWITZ, THAT WAS CAPTAIN JUST SAID THAT WE COULD BE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TEACHERS COMP TIME AND THEY MEAN WHAT THEY'VE COME TIMES TO BE ON A MONDAY TO FRIDAY AND IT COMES TIME FOR THE BURDEN PRINCIPAL MIGHT NOT BE GETTING ON MONDAY OR FRIDAY OR THEY MAY SIMILARLY TRACK OF IT BECAUSE WHO'S TO SAY HOW WE REALLY KNOW WHICH DAYS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE

BUILDING AND THE TIME THAT THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING FOR. >> SO SO SO THAT THIS DISPARATE THIS HAS A LOT OF GRAY AREA ALL ALONG WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF TRACKING IT.

SO THIS IS ONE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO MAKE MAKE NOTES AND I

GIVE IT A COUPLE. >> THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

IF I UNDERSTOOD DR. STRATOS CORRECTLY THAT ADDITIONAL HOURS AND COMPENSATION WAS NOT GOING TO BE REFLECTED IN AN H.R. CHANGE RIGHT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART RIGHT HERE AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING LEAD HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR TO GO FROM TO TEND TO 40 THAT'S 30 EXTRA DAYS BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE CODIFIED IN THEIR CONTRACT OR I MEAN CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT AND I'M SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING? IRONICALLY THOSE THOSE THE COUNSELORS HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE LEAD COUNSEL, THEY HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO THEIR CONTRACT THAT SAID THEY AGENDA ADDITIONAL DAYS IS

AN EXTRA DAYS. >> IS OK. SO IT JUST BE AN ADDENDUM BUT

WOULD NOT TAKE THEM OUT OF DAY. >> MARY, WHAT WAS THE WHAT? SO IS.

SO IT COULD BE THAT THAT THEY TRIED TO GET CLASSIFIED EITHER AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE BY DUTY DAYS VERSUS ADDENDUM TO CONTRACT GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL DAYS TO PERFORM TO DO DUTIES TO KEEP THE OPERATIONS OF THE SCHOOL VERSUS CHANGING THE CLASSIFICATION OF WHO YOU ARE BASED ON. GOT IT. THEN YOU HAD TO LET'S SAY TO AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE NOW YOU SHIP EVERYTHING RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE. SECOND QUESTION I JUST DON'T RECALL OUR COUNSELOR CERTIFIED OR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES THIRD OF BEST CERTIFIED THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE PRAXIS OR PROFESSIONAL

SCHOOL COUNSELOR. >> SO THEY ARE CERTIFIED EMPLOYEES.

>> OK, SO I HAVE A QUESTION OF YOU FINISH. >> YES, SIR, I AM YOU OUT BY THE BOARD? GOOD POINT. SAM OF COURSE.

SO WHAT ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE CLASSES WITH TEACHER ASSISTANTS POSSIBLY COMING IN AND WORKING TO HELP OUT? HOW WOULD WE HOW WOULD WE KNOW HOW THEY DO THE DAYS WHERE THE GREEN SLIPS OR HOW THAT WORK? MR. SMITH, I THINK THE QUESTION SINCE P E HAS TO DO WITH GUIDANCE COUNSELORS, I DON'T THINK THE GUIDANCE HAVE ANY ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS P.E. . OK.

YEAH. SO I'M THINKING THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN

ADDRESS AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT WASN'T PART OF THIS NOW. >> BUT BOB, I THOUGHT THE GUYS COUNSELORS DO HAVE ASSISTANCE IN A SOME OF THEM. THEY HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT RIGHT AT THE FRONT DESK PERSON. RIGHT.

GOOD. YEAH. SO THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS PARKED AT THE FRONT. YES. RIGHT.

I'M NOT A COMING WITH THEM. I'M SORRY, MISS HENDERSON, FINISH PLEASE.

NO WAY. >> BUT THE GUIDANCE CLERK IS NOT INVOLVED WITH THE DAY TO DAY COUNSELING OF A STUDENT. AND AS I MENTIONED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, JUST LIKE THE FS IN OUR DISTRICT, THEY'RE CERTIFIED. BUT THE LAW STIPULATES THEY CANNOT CANCEL A STUDENT REGARDING ACADEMIC. THEY CAN COUNSEL THEM ON COLLEGE AND CAREER WHERE IT IS SET UP COLLEGE CAMPUS TOURS BRING IN COLLEGE REPRESENTATIVES. BUT IS IT STRICTLY OUTLINE GUIDELINES? WHO CAN COUNSEL A STUDENT IN REGARDS TO THEIR ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE? BECAUSE THE SCHOOL SCHOOL COUNCIL HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE AND PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL COUNSELING SO THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. SO WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE THE

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>> YEAH, I JUST UNDERSTOOD. BUT THE POINT THAT I'M BRINGING IS WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLINICAL WORK ALL IT COMES TO THAT THEY'RE BACKING UP OR WE'LL GET IT DONE THAT I'M SURE THAT THEY CALL THE COLLEGE ASSISTANCE SINCE AT THAT TIME IT WASN'T WHEN THEY GO IN TO THE BAR TO CATCH UP ON THEIR PAPERWORK SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE SUITS, CLASSES AND ALL THOSE STUFF TOGETHER. I'M SURE THAT THEY CALL THOSE THE CITIZEN AND AT THAT TIME BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEEING ASSISTANTS BEING CALLED IN AS EARLY AS THE SAME TIME AS GUIDANCE COUNSELORS GETTING COMMENT COMING IN THE BACK YOUR BACK ABOUT THIS WHEN I WAS IN THE SCHOOL I DO REMEMBER THE ASSISTANCE COMING IN EARLY AND HELPING OUT.

GOOD POINT. THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT POINT AND I WOULD TELL YOU BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AND WELL-BEING TO REALLY CHIMES IN WITH DR. JOHN ALPERT CANCELED THAT WITH WELL-BRED OPEN IN 2010 ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ARE NOW PUT ON THE 100 90 DAY CONTRACT WITH THE TEACHERS, NINE DAY CONTRACT WITH THE TEACHERS.

SO THEY'RE NOT IF ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUILDING DOING THE SUMMERTIME ANYMORE THAT OCCURRED IN 2010 THAT MR. SMITH OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IN PRACTICE IT'S DIFFERENT? YEAH. AND I'M SUGGESTING IN PRACTICE IT IS DIFFERENT. JUST AS WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.

>> YES, MA'AM. HE'S SUGGESTING THAT THAT WAS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR IT AGAIN. RIGHT. RIGHT.

OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT EXACTLY, MR. SMITH.

AND IN THIS UNDERSTAND I GUESS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH THE BUILDING PRINCIPALS THAT IF THE EXPECTATION THAT THE GUIDANCE CLERKS ARE COMING IN TO HELP WITH THIS ADDED WORKLOAD THEN THEY SHOULD DARN WELL MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPENSATED.

TO DR. GUA JUST POINT. WE DON'T WANT ANYONE WORKING FOR THE DISTRICT THAT'S WORKING AND NOT BEING COMPENSATED. SO MR. SMITH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> YES, MA'AM, EXACTLY. YES, MA'AM. THAT IS WHY I'M SAYING.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. YES.

WELL, OK. I MISS ROBAN. I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE MISS WALTON ASSURED US THAT ANYBODY WHO WAS COMING IN EXTRA REGARDLESS WHAT TYPE OF CONTRACT THEY WERE ON WERE BEING COMPENSATED. THAT THERE WAS A PROCESS FOR THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, STILL SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.

>> I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET MISS WALTON ON THE LINE. GUESS WHO GAVE HIM CONFIRMATION REGARDING ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT DUTY DAYS IN THEIR CONTRACT GOES TO SCHOOL SITE BY JANUARY A SCHOOL WILL KEEP SOMEONE WHO IS OF A CLASS PERSONNEL ON CAMPUS IF THERE IS PERSONNEL ON CAMPUS SERVICING FAMILIES AND CHILDREN BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMEONE ANSWERING THE PHONE THEY NORMALLY WILL DO A MULTI MULTI CROSSOVER. I COULD SAY OF THEIR DUTIES, YOU KNOW, ASSESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GUIDED SUITE AS WELL AS MAINTAINING OF WHAT'S THE NEEDS WITHIN THE BUILDING OF PARENTS COMING AND ANSWERING PHONES.

AND I WISH YOU KNOW WITH THE BOARD ALSO THE DATA SPECIALIST WORK AROUND.

AND WHEN I WAS AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL AFTER THE SCHOOL COUNSELORS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT LEFT FOR THE SUMMER, THE DATA SPECIALIST WOULD ASSIST ME WITH DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE CONDUCTED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND

THE GUIDANCE DEPARTMENT. OK. >> SO THE PRACTICE YEAH.

>> MR. SMITH, I THINK THAT I KNOW THIS POINT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART AND IT SHOULD BE THAT ANYBODY THAT'S WORKING IS NOT COMPENSATED. I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE IT IF YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE THAT HAS NOT RECEIVED COMPENSATION THAT YOU WOULD URGE THEM I GUESS TO GO TO THEIR PRINCIPAL AND BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT ALL THOSE THAT ARE WORKING TO BE

COMPENSATED. >> YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

NO SENSE IN. YES. AND I'M I'M SURE WE WILL AS A BOARD COLLECTIVELY I'M SURE THAT WE WILL KEEP AN EYE. KEEP AN EYE ON THIS MOVING FORWARD. BUT THANKS I DO I DO SHARE WHAT YOU WHAT.

WE'VE NEVER PUT SOME FOCUS FROM EFFORTS ON THIS TODAY. THANK YOU, BRIAN AND I APPRECIATE WHEN I WAS NOT THINKING YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK OF ASSISTANCE AND SO I THINK ABOUT OUR FABULOUS SPECIAL ED ASSISTANT AND SHADOWS AND EVERYTHING AND TO THANK YOU FOR

REMINDING ME OF THE GUIDANCE CLERKS WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> YES.

SO OK. THANK YOU, MISS HENDERSON. WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THIS? AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE FOR TODAY.

YOU'VE GOT ME THE THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS I EMAILED HAD ROBIN SHARE WITH YOU ALL

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YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TO OUR HINDU SCHOOL CELEBRATION AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDED AND WE HAVE DEFINITELY EVOLVED OVER THE LAST SIX TO A COHESIVE GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS AND AND WE ARE STILL EVOLVING. BUT WE THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT THAT HAS PROVIDED AND I'M SURE PROBABLY ALL OF YOU CAN NAME A SCHOOL COUNSELOR THAT MAY HAVE HAD WE'VE EVEN HAD ONE TO BE RECOGNIZED STATE SCHOOL COUNSELOR OF THE YEAR AND THAT WAS A MET BAYLOR AT H.E. MCCRACKEN TWO YEARS AGO IN 2018 SHE WAS SOUTH CAROLINA MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELOR HERE AND WE WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WILL BE COMPETING AT THE STATE LEVEL THIS YEAR ALSO WONDERFUL WONDERFUL.

>> WELL, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE OUR GUIDANCE COUNSELORS.

YOU KNOW, IN TIMES OF GREAT SADNESS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN WE LOSE A STUDENT OR A STAFF MEMBER, YOUR TEAM IS AT THE READY. SO IT IS IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. AS FAR AS THIS PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONAL COUNSELOR IS AN ADDITIONAL TIME FOR COUNSELORS TO BE SPENT. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT DR.

STRATOS IS GOING TO PRESENT DURING BUDGET TIME OR WHAT IS YOUR HOPE AND INTENTION FOR THIS DOC? IS THAT YOU WON'T ANSWER THAT. IF WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING WE ACTUALLY SPOKE ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING I ALREADY MADE MENTION TO CHINA REGARDING

THE NUMBER ONE ITEM THERE IN THE SCHOOL ACCOUNTS. >> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT LEFT THE MIDDLE? THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP. THE RATIO OF SERVICES BEING PROVIDED THERE. I DID SHARE THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LISTING THAT MRS. HENDERSON DID, IT ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A FAIR PRIORITY. SHE PRIORITIZE BY THE NEED. SO I'VE ALREADY PUT FORWARD TO MISS TIED THAT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS BUDGET. I KNOW. OK.

AND I MEAN THAT ADDED, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE I SHARE WITH JERRY THAT'S WHY SHE DID MAKE MENTION THAT WE ALL ALSO WANT TO BUILD THE CAPACITY OF MY LINGUAL PERSONNEL TO SERVICE OUR STUDENTS. SO SHE IS WORKING AT THAT AT BUILDING CAPACITY GETTING BILINGUAL PERSONNEL TO GO INTO THE COUNSELOR PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SO WE DO HAVE A NEED AS WELL AS FOR THE CREATIVE DEVELOPMENT FACILITATORS AND EVEN THE CITATION IN THIS DOCUMENT WITH REGARD TO THE STATE BOARD OF HAVING A CBS OKATIE MILLION.

ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT POPULATION MET BUT OUR FIRST STEPS AS WE DO BUDGETING IS TO MEET THE NEEDS HERE OF OUR COUNSELORS AND SHE HEARD NUMBERS OF VERY TRUE AND REFLECTIVE OF THE CURRENT POPULATION AT THE SCHOOLS. RIGHT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, THE 70 SCHOOLS MAY HAVE HAD A HIGHER POPULATION BUT THEY'RE STILL NOT MEETING AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM TO MEET SOME NEEDS AT OKAY. SO IT IS IT IS YOUR INTENT THEN TO BRING THIS FORWARD WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS DURING BUDGET TIME? YES IT IS.

OK. ALL RIGHT. TEAM IS OR ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US TODAY?

>> NO. >> OK. THEN WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE AS

FAR AS BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO THE WHOLE SCHOOL BOARD? >> WELL, I MOVE THAT WE BRING PERFORMANCE EXPECTATION P E 1 9 GUIDANCE SERVICES FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL SET

IN MOTION. >> OK, DISCUSSION KATHY, MAY I ASK YOU IN YOUR MOTION YOU JUST SAID YOU SAID FOR APPROVAL. YES. SHOULD ACCEPT AND ACCEPT IT AS ACCEPTANCE. SORRY. THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD.

YEAH. YEAH. >> OK.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR.

I I GET UNANIMOUS TO BRING TO THE FULL BOARD WHERE ACCEPTANCE.

THANK YOU. MISUNDERSTAND GREATLY. APPRECIATE IT.

DR. STRATOS, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING QUICK THAT WOULD BE AT THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP. THIS IS HENDERSON BEING ABLE COMPLETE HER PLANNING.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

[Discussion of 21-22 school calendar]

. >> AND MARY, I KNOW THAT YOUR INTENT HERE WAS JUST TO HAVE A

DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S WHY THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS IN THE AND OR DOCS.

SO IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND LEAD THE DISCUSSION. SO I WANTED AS TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR ACADEMIC SCHOOL YEAR GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE STUDENT CONTACT IS JUNE 17TH IS THE LAST DAY FOR STUDENTS LAST DAY FOR OUR TEACHERS IS JUNE 20 FOR.

I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THE SUMMER AS WELL. PLUS SUMMER SCHOOL. SO I WANTED TO GET A FEEL FROM THE BOARD AT WHAT WE MAY LOOK AT FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE START DATE OF SCHOOL FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR SO WE CAN START ON THE DESIGN AND RECOGNIZE THAT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS IF THERE IS ANY SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR US TO MAINTAIN AS WE DID LAST YEAR SMALL GROUP REMEDIATION STUDENTS AND STARTING SUMMER SCHOOL IMMEDIATELY.

SO AS OUR TEACHERS COMPLETE ON THE 24TH THE 25TH WILL BE A SUMMER SCHOOL DAY.

>> SO I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CONVERSATION FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD OF WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT

WHEN IS THE FIRST CONTACT DAY FOR TEACHERS AND STUDENTS. >> WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS TEACHERS AS ALL THE 16 STUDENTS ON AUGUST 20 30 VS. AUGUST 9TH RESPECTIVELY FOR TEACHERS AND AUGUST 16TH FOR STUDENTS WERE OPEN FOR CONVERSATIONS THEN I COULD START DEVELOPING A DRAFT AND MAYBE GET SOME INPUT ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT OUR DESIGN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND KEEPING THE SAME TYPE OF MODEL DAYS OFF. WE HAD THIS YEAR.

ANYTHING UNIQUE THAT YOU MAY BE CONSIDERING? >> SO MARY, IF YOU WOULD WOULD YOU JUST SAY SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUNE 25TH AS BEING THE BEGINNING OF SUMMER SCHOOL IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OUR SCHOOLS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY I BELIEVE UP 20 DAYS IS WHAT WE'VE GENERALLY DONE AND BE BEING ABLE TO OPERATE ON A FOUR DAY WEEK BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A IF WE GO INTO A FIVE DAY WEEK OR HAVE THE SUMMER SCHOOL JUST OPERATE AT A FIVE DAY WEEK, WE COMPROMISE THINGS ARE CUSTODIANS AND JUST A WHOLE OTHER LIST OF ITEMS THAT MAY

THROW US OFF FINANCIALLY. >> SO JUNE 25TH IS A FRIDAY I BELIEVE? YES, MA'AM. SO STARTING SUMMER SCHOOL FRIDAY ON A FRIDAY REGISTRATION AND IF YOU'RE HERE AS BODY YOU'RE GOING TO CLASS. OK.

YOUR VIRTUAL YOUR VIRTUAL AND THAT WOULD LAST FOR HOW LONG? TWENTY DAYS AND THAT TAKES US TO JULY. I WANTED TO SAY JULY THE WEEK OF JULY 26.

>> TWENTY NINTH. >> YEAH I'M LOOKING AT TWENTY. TWENTY DAYS WOULD BE WHAT FRIDAY THE TWENTY THIRD WOULD BE THEIR 20TH DAY. IS THAT RIGHT ON.

>> YES I AM. WE'RE GOING FOUR DAYS A WEEK NOT.

>> IT'S A WEEK. >> FIT WHICH TAKES US THROUGH THE WEEK OF THE TWENTY SIX AND THE TWENTY NINE. THANK YOU. CLEAN THAT UP.

THIS IS QUESTION MARY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

OK. ALL RIGHT. >> SO SO SUMMER SCHOOL ENDING JULY TWENTY NINTH IS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING. YES MA'AM.

OK NOW YOU'RE SUGGESTING ONES THAT BEGIN. WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE

BEGINNING. >> TWO POTENTIAL DATES START DATES EITHER TEACHERS REPORTING

ON THE 9TH OF AUGUST, OK. >> BASICALLY ONLY GIVES TWO WEEKS OFF FOR SOME OF OUR EDUCATORS WHO'VE WORKED WITH A SUMMER OR LOOKING AT A START DATE OF AUGUST 16TH WHICH GIVES THREE WEEKS AND STUDENTS REPORTING ON THE TWENTY THIRD WHICH WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING.

>> THANK YOU MRS. DISCUSSION BARRY, WHAT GUIDANCE ARE WE HAVING FROM THE STATE?

>> NOTHING AT THIS TIME. NOTHING. SO THE DOCTRINE THAT WE CAN'T START BEFORE THE THIRD MONDAY IS STILL IN PLACE, CORRECT? YES.

SO IS WE'D HAVE TO ASK FOR A WAIVER NOW. ONE, TWO, THREE.

WE'RE CLEAN. CONTACT 1 2. OH SORRY.

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THIS IS ROW BY DR. GRANT. >> SO AS TO TOUCH UPON SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED. SO I THINK PROBABLY TRICIA NOTICED THE SAME THING JUNE 25TH AS A FRIDAY. YOU KNOW, SO THE TEACHERS ARE FINISHING THE SCHOOL YEAR 20 21 SCHOOL YEAR ON THE 24TH. NO, THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH SUMMER SCHOOL ARE BACK AT

IT THE NEXT DAY. THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO ME. >> I WOULD HAVE THEM.

THIS IS JUST ME TALKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M NOT EDUCATOR.

I WOULD HAVE HAD HAVE THE 25TH OFF SO THAT HAVE YOU KNOW, A THREE DAY WEEKEND THERE AND THEN YOU HAD TO ADD AN EXTRA DAY TO FINISH AT THE END OF JULY.

WHAT ABOUT HAVING THE LAST WEEK OF JULY BEING FIVE DAYS BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING THE THAT THAT LAST WEEK IN JUNE OF SCHOOL AND THE OVERLAP TO SUMMER SCHOOL BEING A FULL WEEK THAT'S FIVE

DAYS. >> YES, IT IS. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE NOW THE

FIRST IT'S GOOD. GOOD POINT. >> YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY IT'S IT'S A IT'S A GOOD POINT.

I'VE DRAWN THIS OUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES SO YES. AND HAVING NO.

THREE TO PULL WE CAN GET THAT THAT 20TH DAY ON JULY 30TH 30TH .

ONLY ONE WEEK IS FIVE DAYS THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE LAST BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AT

LEAST A WEEK OR TWO. >> THE TEACHERS ARE AGAIN FORTUNATELY TO BEFORE THEY HAVE TO REPORT BACK AND IT GIVES THEM THAT REFERENCE AND B TO HAVE THE LATER START DATE

OF THE 16TH. >> BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD A THE WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR WAS

PUSHED BACK BY THE CORONA VIRUS AS WE KNOW. >> SO OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY SHORT SUMMER. AND I ONLY REACHED OUT TO FOUR PRINCIPALS IN CONVERSATION ON REGARDING THIS. I DID. YOU KNOW WHAT? ONE HIGH SCHOOL ACTUALLY TWO HIGH SCHOOL CORRECTED FIVE PRINCIPALS, TWO HIGH SCHOOL, ONE ELEMENTARY, ONE MIDDLE JUST GETTING THE FEEDBACK ON THE FEEL AND THEY DID LIKE HAVING THE REMEDIATION THAT WE DID THIS YEAR FROM K THROUGH EIGHT. THAT WAS A UNIFIED THUMBS UP

FROM THEM. >> GRASSO SEEMED LIKE SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATION AND I WOULD I WOULD CONCUR THAT MY THOUGHT TOO ABOUT GIVING THE TEACHERS AT THAT LONG WEEKEND AND STARTING FRESH AGAIN, YOU KNOW ON THAT MONDAY AND THEN HAVING THOSE TWO WEEKS OFF AS YOU

INDICATED BY STARTING ON THE 16TH INSTEAD OF THE NIGHT. >> I THINK THAT THAT PROBABLY MIGHT BE THE THE BETTER. WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK KATHY AMALIA?

I THINK WE HAVE TO. EASY GOING. >> YES.

I MEAN WITH LEAD ON HER REALLY ANSWERS RIGHT NOW WITH THE COVE IT SETS THE NATION AND ALL THAT STUFF GOING. RIGHT. YEAH.

AS A STARTING POINT FOR PLANNING AND STABILIZING HER AND I THINK WE HAVE TO EASE BACK INTO STARTING STUDENTS ON THAT THIRD MONDAY. I THINK WITH THIS THE WAY THAT OUR YEAR WAS STARTED EXTENDED LATER IN THE SUMMER. WE CAN'T DO IT ALL IN ONE YEAR I DON'T THINK. YEAH. YES.

MAY I ASK BECAUSE THIS YEAR I HAVE TO SHARE I MEAN SEPARATE FROM COVID BUT WE DID HAVE SOME VETERANS DAY ON THE CALENDAR. IS THAT AN ITEM OF CONSIDERATION AS WELL?

YES. THANK YOU. >> WE'RE BRINGS WAS A CONSIDERATION YOU MEAN AS THE SCHOOLS DO KNOWN AS A HOLIDAY HOLIDAY.

>> YEAH. >> SO WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION I GUESS WE HAD ELECTION DAY BECAUSE IT WAS A PRESIDENT A DAY EXCUSE ME NEXT YEAR NOT A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

>> IS THAT SOMETHING? SHOULD WE HAVE A I I COULD DECIDED TO BE A HALF DAY.

I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT ON ELECTION DAY AS WELL.

WELL, I THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER THE SCHOOLS OR POLLING PLACES OR NOT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE LIKE PRITCHARD, YOUR ELEMENTARY IS A POLLING PLACE.

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>> SO THERE'S A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE POLLING PLACES.

I MEAN OUR MIDDLE TO SEE HOW AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAYS OUT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT ALLOWS SCHOOL THAT OUR POLLING PLACES ON ELECTION DAY IN MY AREA. ALL AT ALL TIMES.

AND I COULD YOUR I MEAN WORKING ON ELECTIONS I HAVE NO EXIT POLLING PLACES WITH NOBODY

GOING TO THE POLLS. >> RIGHT. >> MR. CAMPBELL, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, YOUR POINT WELL TAKEN AND IN MANY YEARS PAST THE SCHOOLS HAVE WORKED OUT WHERE THERE IS AN OUTSIDE ENTRANCE AND THEY YOU SKILL CONTINUES ON AND THEY JUST BLOCK OFF A CERTAIN PART OF IT HALLWAY OR A GYMNASIUM OR SOMETHING. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER MOVE A HALF A DAY TO FRIDAY OR IS OR A MONDAY TO TWO, YOU KNOW, THAN THAN SAY A HALF A DAY ON A TUESDAY BECAUSE OF ELECTION DAY. ROBYN, IN THE PAST WHEN THERE IS A NONPRESIDENTIAL STAFF IT BECOMES PROFESSIONAL DAY. SO STUDENTS AREN'T IN SCHOOL BUT IT BECOMES A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT DAY AND AS YOU SAY THEY'RE UP THERE SEPARATE ENTRANCES FOR THE POLLING. YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADULT WHAT STUDENT CONTACT.

OK. >> SO THIS WOULD BE STUDENTS WOULD BE ABSENT.

BUT IT WOULD BE IS A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT DAY SOMETIMES FOR TEACH FIRST STAFF MAYBE MARY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU YOU WOULD JUST PULL THE PRINCIPALS ON AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER, CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM. YES. NOVEMBER 2ND AND THEN THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY IS NOVEMBER 11TH WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP.

YES. AS A NO SCHOOL DAY. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF IN

NOVEMBER GETS SHORTENED. >> IT'S GOING TO BE IN A SHORT MONTH BECAUSE OF THE THANKSGIVING BREAK. SO YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU FIND

OUT A PDA PD DAY OR A SCHOOL DAY, WHATEVER. >> YES.

I'LL WORK WITH IT BOTH WAYS. I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT REGARDING SO THAT WE COULD START DRAFTING AND SHARE THAT WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND THEN BRING IT FORWARD TO ACADEMIC COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME SOONER THAN WE THINK AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN DOES A SEMESTER END? THAT'S THE NEXT RIGHT?

YES. >> AND WE WERE LUCKY THIS YEAR WITH THE DESIGN WITH PUSHING

BACK TO SEPTEMBER 8. >> IT PROVIDED OPPORTUNITY FOR ENOUGH INSTRUCTIONAL TIME TO BE TO ADDRESS SEMESTER EXAMS SO THE STUDENTS WOULD RETURN ON THE 4TH AND ALMOST GO TO SCHOOL THROUGH THE WHOLE MONTH AS THE SEMESTER ENDS IN FEBRUARY. SO IT DOES LINE FOR, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING AND PUTTING OUR KIDS BACK ON TRACK VS. YOU KNOW, OTHER MODELS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG AND BIG DISCUSSION. THE QUESTION IS DO YOU HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO VISIT THAT WE HAVE TO BEAR SPLIT 90 90 OR LOOK AT THIS AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE THE SPLIT THAT IT GIVES US. THE BREAK HAPPENS AT THE END OF WINTER BREAK AND THE NEW SEMESTER STARTS ON THE NEW YEAR.

WOULD YOU LIKE? I'LL BRING FORWARD TWO CALENDARS FOR REVIEW.

>> I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THE DATA ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TEST RESULTS AND THAT KIND OF THING AND THE DATA DOESN'T SEEM TO INDICATE ANY YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT REALLY THINK THE 90 DAYS IS THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE IT EVENS THE SEMESTERS BUT THERE'S NO DATA THAT SHOWS US THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS IN FIRST SEMESTER DO WORSE THAN THE KIDS THE SECOND SEMESTER THE DAD IS ACTUALLY THE F ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE. SO WE PRESENT THAT LAST YEAR AT JUST ABOUT THIS TIME.

SO YES. AND THIS YEAR'S DATA REALLY WON'T BE IT WON'T BE YOU WHILE.

YEAH. WON'T BE RELIABLE BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER FACTORS.

MEL IS GETTING READY TO SAY SOMETHING. >> WELL I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING YOU REBECCA SAME BALL GAME. WELL, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS I MEAN FROM A ROPE FROM A TEACHER STUDENT STANDPOINT, HOW DID THIS YEAR WORK?

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SO I THINK WE WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. THEIR INPUT IS GOING TO BE VERY

IMPORTANT THIS YEAR. >> RIGHT. GOOD POINT.

MARY, I THINK THE BIGGEST INPUT ON OUR CHANNEL AND PAC A PLAN CHILDREN ARE A STATE INTERNET FEDERAL ENROLLMENT AS WELL. MR. CAMPBELL'S DRIVING THE BUS TOWARDS OUR STUDENTS.

HIS ACADEMIC SCHOOL YEAR WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO WORK WITH PCL AND USC BAY FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A TRUNCATED BURKE COURSES. MOST OF COURSE IS A VIRTUAL ANYWAY. SO THEY'LL BE ON 10 WEEK CYCLE INSTEAD OF A 12 WEEK CYCLE THAT'S EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE DAYS THAT THEY'RE HAVING INSTRUCTIONAL CONTACT.

WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT NEXT YEAR. SO MR. CAMPBELL IS FIGURING THAT TYPE OF KANWAL THERE HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT. WHAT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR CHILDREN BOTH AT THE LOCAL UNIVERSITY, COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY WHERE RATHER GENEROUS GENEROUS TO SHARE WITH US. ALL RIGHT.

>> MY COMMENT TO THAT IS NO, THERE'S NO. FEEL FREE TO ASK FOR MORE.

I DO UNDERSTAND. YES, SIR. >> YOU DON'T GET MORE RIGHT? RIGHT. EXACTLY. EXACTLY.

YOU DON'T ASK FOR MAL MAL, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? WE MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU SAID. I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL LOCAL COLLEGES THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US IN TERMS OF CREATING OPTIMUM OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS.

SO LET'S NOT BE AFRAID TO ASK FOR FOUR MORE OR MORE OF THE SAME AND TERMS OR DEALING WITH A GET A FLEX IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO I THINK WITH THE WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, PANDEMIC

DAY WE ALL LEARNING THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SHIFTS. >> ROBIN IS DOING TIME REMINDER WE START. AGENDA SETTING IT FOR SO. OK WELL ME CAN YES.

>> THANK YOU ROBIN. SO MARY YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF THE SKELETON FRAMEWORK.

PERFECT. I GOT WHAT I NEEDED TO RECEIVE. I APPRECIATE IT.

[Discussion of additional meeting to review updated ARs]

OKAY, GREAT. >> SO THE LAST ON OUR AGENDA IS WENDY HAS SAID THAT THERE ARE MANY AREAS THAT NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND WE HAD A QUICK DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION ABOUT MAYBE POSSIBLY NEEDING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE ACADEMIC COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THOSE EIGHT HOURS SO WENDY, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT YOU'RE THINKING?

YES, THANK YOU. >> AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE MEETING WILL TAKE TOO LONG.

THESE ARE KERRI HELPERS FROM LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE MEETING BEFORE EVERYTHING STARTED WITH COBURN AND BACK TO SCHOOL. BUT DR. WHITE AND I HAVE MADE THE REVISIONS THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT TO THE SS 16 DISCIPLINE OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE AND YOU ALL HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN MADE AND THAT I S THIRTY THREE WHICH WAS ADULT COMMUNITY EDUCATION.

THOSE REVISIONS WERE MADE AND THEN SS 3 WAS ASSIGNMENT TO STUDENTS TO SCHOOLS THAT NEVER

FINISHED IT. >> SO THOSE REVISIONS ARE ALL MADE FOR FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL AND THEN NO. SS TWENTY FIVE WHICH IS DRUG AND ALCOHOL USE BY STUDENTS. WE WANTED TO GO FOR THAT WITH YOU AGAIN THEN ON I AS 50 A FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENT WE MADE A MINOR REVISION TO THAT A BAR AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS THE I.S. 60 THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE WANTED TO REVIEW WITH YOU IS THAT WE USED TO HAVE SIXTY POINT ONE AND AS AN IRS SIXTY POINT ONE AND THEN AN IRS SIXTY POINT TWO.

AND SO WHAT WE DID FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING IT CLEAR CLEARER AND NOT TO HAVE SO MANY HOURS WE COMBINE THOSE PROCEDURES INTO THE TO THIS A R SO IT READS A LOT BETTER.

AND DR. BILLY AND DR. CAMPBELL AND KIKI AND THEIR STRATEGIES EVERYONE WORKED REALLY HARD TO

[01:35:07]

YOU DID ABOUT ACADEMIC FREEDOM. WE NEED TO REVIEW NOT ONLY THE ACADEMIC FREEDOM BUT THOSE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THAT DR. SCHNEIDER'S MENTIONED TO YOU AND YOUR MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THEY MIGHT BE CALLED SS BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH ACADEMICS. SO KNOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT AS THE SS AND ALSO IN OPERATIONS AS WELL. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COMMUNICATING

TOGETHER AND WORKING TOGETHER. >> SO WENDY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SIX.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU HAVE SIX THAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK ONE TWO. YES. THAT'S RIGHT.

YES. OKAY. YEAH.

AND SO THEY ARE READY TO BE PUT INTO BORDER OPS SO WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO TO READ THEM. YES. I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO READ I WANT TO DO IT ONE MORE TIME REAL QUIETLY TO MAKE SURE THINGS STAND RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING WHICH I AM DOING A BIT SO I'LL WORK ON THOSE AND SENDING THOSE OUT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEE THEM AND YOU KNOW, MR. CAMPBELL HAD SAID THIS A LONG TIME AGO WAS A PRETTY GOOD SUGGESTION. I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY IF THERE'S ONE WITH ALL THE EDITS AND THEN ANOTHER ONE LIKE THAT INCORPORATES ALL THE EDITS YOU CAN READ IT BETTER LIKE ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW WITH THIS 60 BECAUSE IT COMBINES TWO OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS. IF YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE I LIKE READING THIS IS I THINK A CLUE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL IT'S ALL JUMBLED UP AND I DON'T WANT IT

TO BE CONFUSING. >> IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD, RIGHT? I THINK PROBABLY HAVING THEM BOTH IN THERE WOULD BE GOOD. THE CLEAN COPY OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXACTLY AS YOU WANT IT TO BE APPROVED BUT ALSO THE EDITED ONE SO WE CAN IF WE HAVE A QUESTION WE CAN SEE GOT CHANGED. OK. SO WENDY, WHAT DATE ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS MEETING ON ON THE CALENDAR? WELL MISFIT CHURCH I JUST WANTED TO WORK AROUND YOUR SCHEDULE IF WE COULD DO IT IN

THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF DECEMBER. >> THAT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW MAYBE DO YOU THINK MAYBE AFTER THE BOARD MEETING ON THE 8TH I GET. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BETTER TO MEET ON THE MONDAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING OR IF YOU WANT TO WE MEET THE WEEK BEFORE.

I DO KNOW WE HAVE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. I THINK IT'S DECEMBER 2ND FOR THE POLICY. WE HAVE THAT AND THEN WE HAVE A NEW BOARD.

BAM! DECEMBER 10TH. WOULD THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY?

YEAH. >> DECEMBER 10TH IS TENTATIVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK A FINANCE COMMITTEE. SO IF YOU DO IT EARLY YOU WOULD BE FINE.

>> BUT WE COULD MEET LIKE WE DID TODAY AT 2. IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU ALL FINE.

>> KATHY I THINK SO. WOULD YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING WHERE 6 7 DO YOU THINK THAT? I MEAN ROBERT NEEDS TIME TO SET UP THAT WHICH IS WHY I'M HURRYING NOW BECAUSE I KNOW ROBERT HAS TO GET READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO I'M OLDER WITH SIX OF THEM. I MEAN WELL THIS MEETING IN ADVANCE THAT'S KEY.

RIGHT. RIGHT. I'M SEEING THOSE AND SOME OF THEM I'M SURE NOW YOU'RE SAYING YEAH. YOU'VE SEEN THESE BEFORE AND THEY'RE MOSTLY PRETTY SHORT EXCEPT FOR THE MEN BRAG I A 60 THAT THE SS 16 DISCIPLINE OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES BUT WE HAD ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE ORIGINAL ONE.

>> YEAH. AND THE ORIGINAL ONE AND YOU KNOW DR. WHITE IS JUST OUTSTANDING AND WITH HER WORK IT READS IT'S IT'S IT'S VERY WELL DONE THANKS TO YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE TEAM AS WELL. SO THAT WON'T TAKE. I DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE THAT,

MA'AM. >> EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT.

SO WENDY AND TEAM DECEMBER 10TH AT 2 O'CLOCK. >> YES.

THANK YOU. DOES THAT WORK? YES, IT WORKS GREAT.

WONDERFUL. OKAY. AND THEN THAT WILL BE THOSE SIX HOURS THAT YOU JUST NOTED. YES. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OH, THANK YOU, WENDY. APPRECIATE IT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT. ROBIN, THANK YOU.

I HOPE WE'VE LEFT YOU ENOUGH. DR. STRATOS IS THE NEXT ACADEMIC COMMITTEE BEYOND THE SPECIAL CALL 1. I JUST WANT TO KEEP A CALENDAR TOGETHER.

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I DO APOLOGIZE. >> NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M LOOKING AT PROBABLY DECEMBER 16TH AT TWO. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE OUR REGULAR THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. MEL AND KATHY

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