Nov 16, 2020 Public Facilities Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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ME TO SAY RIGHT LET'S GIVE ALLEGIANCE I'D APPRECIATE IT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

>> I ASSUME A NOTIFICATION THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

>> IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, I DO. THANK YOU.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> AT THIS TIME IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CHANGES? >> MISS YORK APPROVED A MOTION

THAT WE APPROVED THE AGENDA. >> THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION ? DON'T MOVE. GERMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. RODMAN. I APPRECIATE YOUR SECOND. WE'LL DO THIS.

WE'LL HANDLE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. THE AGENDA IT'S APPROVED.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 19, 2020]

MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS WITHOUT OBJECTION. MOTION STANDS APPROVED.

[6. AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN EASEMENT TO BJWSA ENCUMBERING PROPERTY OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY AT 88 SHANKLIN ROAD, SOUTH CAROLINA]

YES, SIR. >> THIS ISN'T IT FOR FOR JASPER TO PROVIDE THAT SEWER SERVICES TO THE UNITS ON ROAD. SIR, YOU MUST BUILD IT OUT WITHIN AN HOUR I'LL TAKE LANE ROAD. THIS IS JUST A NORMAL PART OF CONSTRUCTION RIBAUT THEM ACCESS ALL THE UTILITIES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN AND LADY IS ALASTAIR GO THROUGH THIS CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MR. DAWSON.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL BE GLAD TO SECOND THAT ASSIGNMENT AS THE SECOND.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS? OK, WE'LL HANDLE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS MOTION HEARING? NO OBJECTIONS. THE MATTER IS APPROVED. THIS NOW MOVES ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL RIGHT HERE AT YES THAT GREAT READS. THANK.

[7. UPDATE/CHANGES OF CONVENIENCE CENTER OPERATIONS AND DECAL SYSTEM]

ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, CERTAINLY, KYRA. >> SHE'S ON LINE ARE DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE. AND SHE CAN GIVE US A GOOD UPDATE OF WHERE WE STAND WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AS WELL AS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED AND ALREADY DISTRIBUTION. >> WE'RE REVIEWING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. BEFORE WE GET TO THE UPDATE, SOME CONVENIENCE CENTERS THERE WAS TWO ITEMS THAT I YOU DON'T MIND ME GIVING A PLUG TO WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 18TH 60 BEFORE COUNTY STAFF ARE GONNA HAVE A LITTER CLEANUP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

WE HOPE TO TOUCH EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT. WE'RE KIND OF DOWNSIZING THIS FALL BECAUSE OF . BUT I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT DECEMBER 12TH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR RECYCLING AT 140 SHANKLIN AND NINE BENTONVILLE ROAD SO RESIDENTS CAN BRING THEIR ELECTRONICS. IT'S SATURDAY FROM 9 TO 3. THANK YOU, MIKE.

NOW TO A CONVENIENT CENTERS. WE'VE HAD A REAL SUCCESSFUL TRANSITION WELL FOR THE NEW HOURS AND FOR THE OPERATING DATES WE DID HAVE OUR FIRST DELAY SINCE THE LAST PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE PRINTER WAS A DELIGHT TWO WEEKS WITH THE ACTUAL DETAILS. SO INSTEAD OF RECEIVING THEM ON OCTOBER 20 3RD WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 5TH. WE'VE STUFFED THOUSANDS ENVELOPES AND THE FIRST DETAILS WENT TO RECORDS MANAGEMENT FOR MAILING. ON NOVEMBER 13TH EACH DAY WE'RE SENDING OUT LOTS OF FIFTEEN HUNDRED AND TWO THOUSAND. WE'VE RECEIVED 15000 APPLICATIONS OF THAT 15000 TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE WERE ONLINE AND

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>> SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHEN ALL THE LIGHT GOES OUT IT DOES HAVE THE DETAIL.

IT'S A THREE BY THREE DETAIL THEIR THERE'S INSTRUCTIONS ON WHERE TO PUT IT ON YOUR CAR AND

THERE'S ALSO A TIPS BROCHURE. >> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HEAVIER YOUR WRAP CARDS.

IT'S GOT 10 TIPS FOR ALL RESIDENTS TO USE THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND ON THE BACK IT HAS OURS IT HAS LOCATIONS THAT HAVE A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION THAT I THINK PEOPLE WILL KEEP HANDY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO HELP WITH THE ONLINE REGISTRATION FORM. OBVIOUSLY THAT IF TAKEN IT DOWN FROM A COUPLE OF TIMES TO MAKE IT EASIER TO YOU. AND WE ARE STILL PROCESSING THE POST CARDS THAT RE RECEIVING DAILY FROM THE CENTERS THERE HAVE BEEN UPDATED PRESS REAL TESTS FOR INFORMATION TO MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND WE ARE SOMETIMES NOW SLOWED DOWN WITH A LOT OF CALLS AND EMAILS FROM PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW WHERE MY DETAIL BUT WE ARE ISSUING THOSE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE INDIVIDUALS OF PLACE POSSIBLE ALWAYS WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE DON'T NEED THEM UNTIL JAY REFERS SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO PANIC. IT'S AND DOWNLOADING TO THE DEBT AT A BASE BANK.

MY OTHER CONCERN AT INSTALLATION ACCESS ROAD WE ARE STILL ABLE TO STORE THAT CENTER ON JANUARY 1ST AND WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF DETAILS START ON THE SITE.

SAME FOR ALL THE CENTERS. SO ON TO AVOID CONFUSION WITH ANYBODY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO KIND OF REMIND IF WE DON'T START AT HILTON HEAD ON JANUARY 1ST THIS WAS AN UNBUDGETED ITEM SO WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ASK FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF CINDY? I ASSUME Y'ALL FILLED OUT YOUR APPLICATION FOR THE THING ONLINE? IT TOOK ABOUT A MINUTE AND HALF. IT WAS SO EASY AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY TO TAKE JUST THAT EXTRA TWO OR THREE MINUTES AND FILL IT OUT AT THE COUNTY WEB SITE BEAUFORT COUNTY SC DOT ORG AND IT'S IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT DONE.

JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. HOW MANY? I MEAN THE APPLICANT SAID YOU RECEIVED THUS FAR RIGHT AT FIFTEEN THOUSAND FIFTEEN

THOUSAND. >> OK. THAT REMINISCED ABOUT WHAT 10

PERCENT? >> WELL IF WE TAKE OUR WHOLE POPULATION REST IT'S FROM THE FROM THE TEXT DATABASE IT WAS LIKE NINETY TWO THOUSAND AND FROM OUR PRIVATE CALLERS THEY'RE TELLING US THAT THEY YOU BROKE UP 30 COULD YOU REPEAT THAT THE.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? >> I SAID ARE OUR TAX BASE IS ABOUT 90.

I SAID OUR TAX BASE WAS ABOUT NINETY TWO THOUSAND RESIDENCES .

OUR HAULERS THAT PROVIDE CURBSIDE SERVICE WE REPORT MONTHLY AND I'M SEEING THAT THEY USUALLY TAKE ABOUT FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND CUSTOMERS. SO I MENTIS THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND APPLICATIONS AND OF THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FIFTEEN THOUSAND.

>> THANK YOU, SANDY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN, HAVE YOU HAD?

>> YEAH. GO AHEAD. CINDY, ARE YOU ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR UPDATES AND THE PRESENTATION IS THERE UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> YES. MA'AM, I DO HAVE ONE I HAVE A CONCERN THAT IS BEING SHARED BY A LOT OF THE CITIZENS OUT IN THE LOT OUT IN THE SHELDON DALE BAKER STATE AREA PARTICULARLY WITH THE DAYS OF OPERATION THE DAYS OF OPERATION WE WERE OPEN THE BIGGEST DATE ALL CENTERS OPEN THREE DAYS AND SO AS TO SHELDON AND THEY ON ALTERNATING DAYS WHICH WHICH IS GOOD.

AND SO THE THREE DAYS OF OPERATION IS THIS CAR PALATABLE? HOWEVER, I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF PLANT COMPLAINTS AND AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BE

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SO THURSDAY FROM THURSDAY YOU GOT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY BEFORE I CAN TOP MY GARBAGE OFF THAT'S FOUR DAYS THAT I'LL BE HOLDING MY GARBAGE AT THE HOUSE AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS THAT I'VE SHE HAD THIS THIS COMPLAINT WITH ME.

SO THAT'S FOUR DAYS THEN THAT THEY'RE HOLDING THESE GARBAGE AT THE HOUSE AND AND DOING THAT TIMEFRAME OF PREPARING OR WAITING FOR MONDAY TO DUMP THE GARBAGE AGAIN.

YOU'VE GOT THE SMALL WORMS IN MAGGOTS AND THESE MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THEY DON'T HAVE TRASH BINS TO HOLD THEIR GARBAGE IN AND THAT FOUR DAY TIMEFRAME. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT YOU CONSIDER LIMITING THE THREE DAYS OF OPERATION TO THREE DAYS VISIT.

>> ALSO REVEREND ONLY ALLOWED IN TWO VISITS PER WEEK. DID YOU CHANGE THAT TO THREE VISIT PER WEEK SO THAT WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE CENTER ON EACH DAY THAT IS OPEN NOW? THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEM.

IT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THEN THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN YOU GOT HIM COME IN, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE MUTED. YOUR MUTED.

BRIAN, THANKS. I JUST. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA IGNORE YOU. BUT I THINK MICHAEL HAD SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION REGARDING

THAT SAME SCENARIO. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

COUNCILMAN ALSO NOT SHARE YOUR YOUR EXACT CONCERNS. I'VE HAD PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY NOT JUST MY DISTRICT BUT ALL ACROSS COUNTY. EXPRESS THOSE SAME FEELINGS, TONY. I SPOKE WITH LEGAL IN AND PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERED I GUESS BRIAN WOULD GO THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN FORWARDED ON. BUT ANYWAY, THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH IN MY AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE TWO VISITS PER WEEK RESTRICTION ON COUNTY RESIDENTS. I SEE ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS A MUTINY IF WE START RESTRICTING PEOPLE TO FOR THE ABILITY TO DUMP OFF TRASH. NOT ONLY IS IT UNHEALTHY AND IT STINKS BUT MAGGOTS YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING LITERALLY SEE TRASH PILED UP OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITIES THAT ARE OPEN. IT'S AN A IT'S AN INEVITABLE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF LIMITING PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN ONLY GO TWO DAYS. SO I HAD THAT AMENDMENT. BRIAN, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A

COPY OF IT. >> YEAH, BUT IT'S BURIED IN MY EMAIL.

YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ IT? I DIDN'T PULL IT OUT BUT I THOUGHT YOU HAD IT. SO THAT'S IT. I WANT TO MAYBE LEGALIZE IT BUT ANYWAY IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE THE SOLID WASTE ORDINANCE WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS 20 20 DASH THAT WOULD ELIMINATE STRIKE AND DELETE THE WORDS TO DENISE PER WEEK FROM THE

DOCUMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL GET TO YOU IN SECONDS TOO. UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO STU, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE ON MUTE.

>> WELL, I'LL SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN. AND WHO WAS THAT DUE TO? OK. THANK YOU. YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT.

YEAH, I NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD THE LOGIC OF THE TO BEGIN WITH AND I THINK WE'RE WELL BEYOND

THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO JUST DELETE IT ANYWAY. >> BUT WE DO IT IF PEOPLE GENERALLY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT IN TOTAL IN THE COURSE OF A WEEK AND I THINK IT'S A BURDEN ON THE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. I. I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING STU AND MICHAEL GERALD AND MY THOUGHT WAS THE SAME THING THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH IN YOUR EMOTION WON'T INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH.

IT'LL BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT GOES TO OUR FACILITY.

SO BEFORE THIS GETS TO COUNTY COUNCIL I'D APPRECIATE IT STAFF WOULD HAVE TOGETHER THE NUMBERS

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IN OTHER WORDS, HOW IS IT GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING? IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE HOURS OF OPERATION. WE'RE STILL GOING TO THREE TO A WEEK FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER FACILITIES. IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF TRASH. THE AMOUNT OF TRASH IS GOING TO BE THE SAME. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW OFTEN IT'S GOING TO ARRIVE AT THE CONVENIENT CENTER AND MORE EVEN DISTRIBUTION. ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HOW ARE WE GOING, PAUL? GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE ON MUTE. THANK YOU. >> HOW THERE'S CONCERN HERE WHEN REMIND EVERYONE THAT THEIR CONCERN HERE IS NOT THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL IS TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT COMPLAINING ABOUT EXACTLY THE SAME THING THE TWO DAYS IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO TAKE THEIR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE TO CONVENIENCE CENTER.

I HAVE NEVER HAD AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXTRA DAY? I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY SUGGEST EVEN SUGGEST GOING BEYOND THIRD DAY.

I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY REASON WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. BUT ANYWAY.

BUT THE CONCERN IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAULERS WHO HAVE BEEN PLAYING MUSICAL CONVENIENCE CENTERS GO FROM ONE TO THE OTHER TO THE OTHER TO THE OTHER.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF THIS TWO DAYS OR WHATEVER WE END UP WITH TWO DAYS THREE DAYS OR WHATEVER THERE IS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THEY CAN MAKE TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT CONVENIENCE CENTERS AROUND THE COUNTY WITHIN A GIVEN WEEK. SO THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE AIMING AT. WE'RE NOT ABLE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING OUR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE. AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANY REAL LEGITIMATE REASON WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO GO MORE THAN THREE DAYS. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE GERALD GAVE AND I'VE HAD NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS CONSTITUENTS CALL ME ABOUT THAT ABOUT THE TWO DAYS AND AND NOT CERTAINLY SUPPORT A THREE DAY BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT TO GO BEYOND THAT.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL. >> I WOULD ONLY SAY I THINK WE'RE NOT ALLOWING COMMERCIAL FOLKS TO DISPOSE OF THEIR GARBAGE IN THE CONVENIENT CENTER ANY WAY AND THE DECALS SYSTEM OBVIOUSLY IS DESIGNED TO KEEP NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL HAULERS OR COMMERCIAL ENTITIES LIKE CONTRACTORS OUT BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO DON'T RESIDE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IN MY DISTRICT. I HAVE A LOT OF AND I'M NOT STEREOTYPING. I'M JUST GOING ABOUT WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC SHOW ME A LOT OF CATHOLICS WHO TRADITIONALLY HAVE LARGE FAMILIES, OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AT LEAST HERE THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAS SAID THEY GO THEY THEY WHATEVER THEY HAVE ENOUGH TRASH THAT THEIR FAMILY MAKES THAT THEY COULD GO EVERY OTHER DAY TO KEEP IT OUT OF THE HOUSE, OUT OF THE GARAGE, OUT OF THE SERVICE YARD. YEAH.

MR. SOMERVILLE IS RIGHT. MR. RODNEY WAS RIGHT. IT IS GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.

I THINK JUST PUTTING A LIMIT ON JOHN Q. PUBLIC IS I JUST THINK THAT WE JUST DON'T NEED TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS. I MYSELF GO THREE DAYS A WEEK ALREADY A FAMILY OF FIVE.

LORD KNOWS I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS. >> THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS MOTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON AN HOUR BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT AND I'LL HAVE THE CLOSING COMMENTS DO GO AHEAD. YEAH CHAIRMAN, IF THIS DOES PASS YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER TAKING IT FORWARD AS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OTHERWISE WE'LL BE THAT WILL BE OUT TO ANOTHER MONTH THROUGH THE JANUARY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE

AS MANY MEETINGS. >> THANK YOU. YEAH, I SEE THAT BRIAN.

A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT CHRIS HERB, SEAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WONDER IF WE COULDN'T HEAR FROM MR. WILHELM. JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION. ARE YOU WITH US HERE, DAVE? YEAH, YOU ARE.

I AM. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE BUT WELL, OBVIOUSLY DO WHAT THE WELL OF COUNSEL IS CINDY SAID 60S SOME PERCENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE BEFORE COUNTY HAVE CURTAILED COLLECTION.

I HAVE CURBSIDE COLLECTION THAT LIMITS US TO ONE WEEK PICKUP AND SEEMS TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY

ELSE BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY DEFER TO WISH COUNCIL EXPERT DAVE. >> THE DIFFERENCE IS I THINK THAT I MIGHT CURBSIDE ONE DAY A WEEK. YOU PUT YOUR TRASH IN A BIN.

AND IT STAYS CLOSED IN THE GARAGE OR IN THE SERVICE YARD YOU WHEEL IT OUT TO THE STREET

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SO I'M GONNA I I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS AND I'M GONNA ASK THAT STAFF EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE. I ALSO WOULD ASK THAT THAT STAFF EVALUATE THAT THE TIMELINE AND THAT THEY NEED THAT THIS GO INTO EFFECT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ORDINANCE.

SO WHETHER OR NOT THIS CAN BE PHRASED AS AN EMERGENCY OR INTERMEDIARY STEP SOMEHOW SO THEY LIKE WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THREE RATINGS AND A PUBLIC HEARING TO DO IT IN A LEGITIMATE KIND WAY . BUT IN THE MEANTIME, STAFF EVALUATION OF THE IMPACT OF THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE AND STAFFING EVALUATION OF POTENTIAL EMERGENCY CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DAVE WILL HAVE TO

CHIP? THANK YOU. >> I'LL I'LL GET THAT.

I THINK DAVE HAS SOMEBODY ONCE ASKED ME ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID .

GO AHEAD, DAVE. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN CLOVER, YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE USING THE CENTER'S 100 PERCENT CORRECT COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE THE CENTERS. HOWEVER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF SMALL CONTRACTORS LIVE IN D4 COUNTY. THEY'RE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO GET A DETAIL SO ANYBODY THAT COMES BEING A CENTER NOW THAT SHOWS A DETAIL IF THERE'S NO LIMITS ON HOW MANY TIMES THEY COME TO THE CENTER, WE ESSENTIALLY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE WILL STILL BE COMING SHOWING A D. YOU ARE CORRECT.

THIS WILL HELP ELIMINATE THE OUT OF COUNTY BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST MISUSE OF THE CENTERS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS WITH COMMERCIAL AND CONTRACTORS AND IF EVERY ONE OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES GET A DETAIL THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO COME TO THE CENTERS.

THANK YOU, PAUL. YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO IT AS WELL. IN GENERAL ME.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. THANK YOU.

I THINK DAVE COVERED IT PRETTY MUCH BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND MIKE MIKE IS CORRECT THAT WE DON'T ALLOW CONTRACTORS CONTRACTORS PRESENT OR NOT.

THE PROBLEM IT'S THE SMALL GUYS THAT DON'T HAVE CONTRACTOR WRITTEN ON THE SIDE OF THEIR TRUCK OR THEIR TRAILER. THEY COME AND SAY HEY, YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN DOING LITTLE WORK ON MY BEDROOM AND I'M GONNA A TRAILER LOAD AND A PICKUP TRUCK LOAD HERE AND THEN THEY GO BACK AND REFILL AND THEN THEY GO TO ANOTHER CONVENIENCE CENTER GO BACK AND REFILL AND THIS IS IT.

THIS IS A VERY GROUP WE'RE TRYING TO SLOW DOWN. SO EXTENDING THIS TO WAY BEYOND TWO DAYS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE.

OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO WE WANT TO PROTECT THEM. BUT WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR ANYBODY TO AN OFF HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE? I MEAN I WAS QUITE FRANKLY I WAS SURPRISED PEOPLE MEANT WHAT WENT MORE THAN TWICE. BUT I NOW ACCEPT THAT PEOPLE DO THAT DO THAT. BUT I I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME THAT ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT AND I'VE NOT HAD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING. HE SAID THIRD DAY, THIRD DAY WORKS FINE, USE THREE DAYS AND WE CAN DO IT. BUT YOU GO BEYOND THAT AND YOU'RE ALL YOU'RE DOING IS ATTRACTING THESE THESE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AS SUCH AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME. I DON'T OFFER AN AMENDMENT IF I

CAN TO MAKE THAT UNLIMITED TO THREE WEDDINGS. >> THANK YOU.

THERE'S AN OFFER OF AN AMENDMENT, A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

>> SECONDLY, THE ORIGINAL SECOND FACTOR I THINK THREE SOLVES THE PROBLEM IF IT'S

COUNTY RANKS. >> MICHAEL, DO YOU AGREE YOU CHANGE YOUR MOTION? OK, SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WITHOUT VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT IS AMENDED BY REQUEST OF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND THE SECOND TO INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE WORDS TO UNLIMITED.

CHANGE IT TO THREE VISITS PER WEEK. IS THAT CORRECT?

MICHAEL, THANK YOU. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THANK YOU, MR. COVID .

THANK YOU, MR. RODMAN. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MR. HARVEY

SHINE? >> WELL, LET ME GET A QUESTION TOO, OK? OK, GO AHEAD, YORK. I'LL GO. GO AFTER CHRIS.

OK, I'LL MAKE SURE I GET YOU THEN, CHRIS. I HAD I CALLED ON YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO SECOND THIS AMENDMENT.

I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET STAFF'S ASSESSMENT BEFORE YOU KNOW WHEN THIS GOES TO COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. >> BECAUSE IT HAS A FINANCIAL IMPACT AND I DO AGREE WITH THAT. AND BY THE WAY, THE THE MOTION IS AMENDED.

THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT FOR A VOTE SINCE THE MAKE OR THE MOTION AND THE SECOND AGREED

WITH IT. YORK EUROPE. >> THANK CHIMA I ASKED.

I THOUGHT THAT THE THAT THE STAFF WAS GOING TO MONITOR THE DAYS THAT A PERSON ACTUALLY USE

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I THINK I HAVE TO SAY YORK THAT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

>> I'M I'M IMPRESSED. YEAH. GO PAST ME AND I'LL GET YOU I'LL GET YOU IN A SECOND. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HOPE TO FIND OUT EVALUATING THE DATA IS WHO WHO MIGHT BE ATTEMPTING TO ABUSE THE SYSTEM AND WE'LL FIND OUT VERY QUICKLY THAT ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE MAY VERY WELL BE LIMITING THAT TO 3 PER DAY PER WEEK IF IF IF SOMEBODY IS APPROACHING THE CENTER MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM MONDAY, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY WE'LL KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT IF THAT THAT'S LIKELY TO NOT BE RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE BUT IT MIGHT BE AN ATTEMPT TO TO DROP OFF COMMERCIAL TRASH. SO THIS WILL ALL BE EVALUATED AND YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT BY THE END OF OR BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR OR EVEN THE END OF NEXT YEAR AT THE LATEST WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH DATA THAT WE CAN AND HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM SUFFICIENTLY THAT WE WON'T EVEN NEED TO BE DOING THIS KIND OF THING THAT IT WILL BE JUST THE FATE OF THIS IS THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE AND BE OUR THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER ANYTIME THEY HAVE STINKY TRASH AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMERCIAL WILL KNOW NOT TO GO THERE ANYMORE.

SO LET'S SEE. JOE PASHMAN, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

>> YES. I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE IS GARBAGE.

I THINK THE ISSUE THIS CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS 10 1 1 THING THAT WAS JUST SAID BY DAVE WAS WE'RE ISSUING DECALS TO POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL ENTITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A DETAIL WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO GET INTO THE COMMERCIAL.

I MEAN TO GET INTO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER WE NEED ANOTHER INTERMEDIATE STEP IN THERE. YES, I KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

THERE IS A LANDSCAPE COMPANY OR A SMALL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. HE HAS A PICKUP TRUCK.

HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY IDENTIFICATION ON IT. HE DOESN'T HAVE COMMERCIAL PLATES AND HE'S GOING TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER, THE INTERMEDIATE STEP MAY BE CAN WE COORDINATE A BUSINESS LICENSE WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND EXCLUDE THEM FROM OBTAINING A DECALS TOUGH TO DO. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE BUT I'M SURE OUR STAFF WILL LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP.

BUT DON'T FORGET WE DON'T GET ALL THE BUSINESS LICENSE INFORMATION THAT MUNICIPALITIES CARRY A MAJORITY OF THAT. YOU KNOW IT'S ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY ONE OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE I KNOW IS HOW COME WE'RE NOT PUTTING ALL THIS INTO THE TAX BILL MAILING? WHY DON'T WHY DON'T WE HAVE A FACT SHEET ABOUT ABOUT HOW WE WANT CONVENIENT CENTERS USED, WHAT THE OPERATION IS, HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND HAVE THAT ADDED TO THE TAX BILL MAILINGS THAT GO OUT TO EVERYBODY I APPRECIATED OF STAFF. ERIC, IF YOU WOULD EVALUATE THAT POTENTIAL SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN PUT ALL THESE COMMERCIAL DOLLARS ON NOTICE THAT WE DON'T WANT THEIR TRASH.

THEY SHOULD BRING IT STRAIGHT TO GRILL SOMEONE. >> SOMEONE ON STAFF HAS ALREADY SUGGESTED THAT TO US AND WE'RE CURRENTLY EVALUATING NOW SOUTH AFRICA THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE MOTION. OKAY.

SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL? >> OK THEN WITHOUT OBJECTION FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE TO THREE DAYS PER WEEK TO COUNTY COUNCIL AT THAT POINT WILL RECEIVE SOME EVALUATION FROM STAFF BOTH ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF IT AND THE

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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION WILL BE APPROVED. THE MOTION IS APPROVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNTY COUNCIL.

WE'LL SEE IT THEN AT THE NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING I SOON MAY BE THE ONE IN DECEMBER PROBABLY THE ONE IN DECEMBER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. JARED, WHAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED BUT IF WE DO IT IN DECEMBER AS AN EMERGENCY

CHANGED THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY SUFFICE. >> NEXT WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT

[8. PRIORITY FUNDING REQUEST]

HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU WANT US TO GO ABOUT THIS? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THE SENATOR HAD ASKED THAT A POLITICAL MEETING THAT REALLY PULLED TOGETHER WHAT MIGHT BE SOME POTENTIAL ASK FOR GRANTS. SO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS, THE NON-RECURRING WHICH ORIGINALLY WAS AT ONE POINT EIGHT BILLION WAS DEFERRED. AND SO THE SEQUENCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS THAT WHEN THE LEGISLATURE GOES BACK THEY WILL TAKE UP THE ACTUAL F Y TWENTY ONE BUDGET.

>> SO WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THAT YEAR BUT THEY'LL TAKE UP THE F Y TWENTY ONE AND FINALIZE THAT AND THEN BEFORE THEY TAKE UP THE F Y TWENTY TWO WHICH I ASSUME IS PROBABLY STILL BEING JANUARY THEY WILL TAKE UP ON RECURRING FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT THE ESTIMATE FROM THE BUDGET BOARD IS THAT THERE'S ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS IT'S AVAILABLE THEY WON'T NECESSARILY MIGHT HOLD SOME OF THAT BACK IN RESERVE BEYOND THE STATUTORY RESERVES THAT THEY HAVE BUT IT'S A FAIRLY SIZABLE NUMBER WHEN HE AND THE SENATOR MADE THE REQUEST TO SPECIFIC WE MENTIONED THREE ITEMS THAT WERE ON HIS RADAR NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.

>> ONE WOULD BE THE WHAT BECAME THE ACADEMIC BUILDING THAT BECAME THE CONVOCATION BUILDING FOR USC B THE SECOND ONE WAS THE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER FOR T.C. L AND THE THIRD BEING THE THE TERMINAL ADDITION AT THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT AND IS HIS THOUGHT WAS IF WE START TO FEED SOME OF THAT TO HIM HE COULD START IT THROUGH THE INTERNAL COMMITTEE AT THE SENATE COMMITTEE FINANCE COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY COULD START TO WORK ON IT AND UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN MAYBE IT GETS INCLUDED IN ANY OF THAT. I HAD TO SURFACE THAT I HAD LET THE MUNICIPALITIES KNOW THAT THAT HE HAD ASKED FOR THAT JOE HAS CONVENED A MEETING I BELIEVE TOMORROW WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE THE COUNTY TRYING TO GO OFF AND LEAVE ANYTHING FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES WOULD BE FREE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DIRECT REQUEST SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS AS WE PULL THIS TOGETHER IS THAT WE PERHAPS DO IT IN TWO STEPS. ONE IS THE THREE THAT THE SENATOR SUGGESTED PERHAPS WE CONFIRMED OURSELVES THAT THOSE ARE FAIRLY REASONABLE AND THEN SECONDLY PASS THOSE ALONG TO THEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME MAKE SURE THAT THIS THAT WE'RE OVERLOOKING ANYTHING WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PRIORITY FOR SOMETHING THAT CAN CATCH UP ON CATCH UP ON THE FLY AND WE COULD IF WE NEEDED TO VOTE ON IT COUNCIL WE COULD DO THAT AT THE DECEMBER MEETING SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW AND I GUESS MY THOUGHT WOULD BE PERHAPS UNLESS SOMEBODY DISAGREES THAT WE CAN AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE THREE ITEMS THAT'S ON HIS RADAR ARE ONES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND AT THE SAME TIME I SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE OVERLOOKING WE PASS THOSE ALONG AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY BE REVISITING THE FBI TWENTY TO ABOUT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW MAYBE EARLIER THE CHAIRMAN THANKS STU. THAT WAS THE USCCB CONVOCATION CENTER CCL REGIONAL DESK AND THE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER AND THE ADDITIONS FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT WHICH BY THE WAY HAS I GUESS IT'S ON THE AGENDA LOOK AT LATER THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF IF MONEY THAT COMES WITH THAT ALREADY CHECK TO CHECK OUT I'LL BE RIGHT I'LL BE RIGHT WITH YOU DO.

>> I WANT TO VERIFY THAT YOU GOT MY EMAIL ON THE ON THE MATTER THAT I HAD PROPOSED A

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YEAH IS THAT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND YOU'RE NOT ON MY SCREEN FLYER MCCALLUM.

HEY, LARRY. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, LARRY.

I WONDER IF WE COULD ADD TO THAT THE CONSIDERATION FOR THAT NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK BECAUSE IT APPEARS IN THE LAST GO ROUND WITH FARMER THEY DIDN'T GET ANY FUNDING AT ALL.

>> I THINK THEY CAN PROBABLY APPLY FOR THE DECEMBER 30 FIRST APPLICATIONS FOR A TAX H TAX BUT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS AND MAYBE WE COULD SPONSOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING MONEY FROM OTHER PLACES BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT IT'S QUITE ENOUGH FOR

THEM. >> AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS ARE WE ONLY TALKING HERE ABOUT CAPITAL EXPENSES OR WHAT ABOUT INVESTMENTS IN PEOPLE YOU THINK WE COULD GET A GRANT TO FOR CCL TO PERHAPS PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR H FAC ELECTRICAL TRAINING AND PLUMBING TRAINING FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT AND MAYBE ALSO QUALIFIED TO SERVE IN THOSE POSITIONS IF THEY RECEIVE ADEQUATE TRAINING BUT PERHAPS COULDN'T PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES VERSUS JUST FOR

THINGS AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE THEIR WORD IS NON-RECURRING. >> SOMEBODY MAY KNOW BETTER.

I DO. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S LIMITED CAPITAL WELL NON-RECURRING COULD BE JUST A GRANT SYSTEM TO GET PEOPLE ENROLLED IN THESE PROGRAMS AND THEN YOU KNOW, TURN THEM OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AS AS TRAINED APPRENTICES TO WORK IN IN THIS

BUSINESS. >> MIKE CULVER, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OF THAT SORELY, SORELY NEEDED. >> SO COULD YOU SAY.

>> I MEAN A.L.. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE. DO THEY PROVIDE TRAINING AND PLUMBING ELECTRIC AND H FACT ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO MAYBE WE CAN HELP PEOPLE OUT IN THESE DIRE STRAITS THAT WE'RE IN HERE AND GET PEOPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED THROUGH APTITUDE TESTS TO WHO WOULD EXCEL IN THOSE AREAS BUT CAN'T AFFORD IT.

AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THEM SOME KIND OF SCHOLARSHIP GRANTS. THEY CAN TCO AND BE TRAINED IN

THIS WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU, LARRY.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT AND I THINK MAYBE WE CAN ADD TO THE LIST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS. YES.

IF BRIAN IF YOU AND LARRY WILL SEND ME IN WRITING THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT SO I CAN ADD THEM TO THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING TOMORROW MORNING WITH THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES SO THAT I HAVE A COMPLETE LIST WHEN I MEET WITH SENATOR DAVIS THAT WE CAN APPRISE HIM OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER BRIGHT IDEAS AND HOW TO SPEND MONEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9. NEW ARTHUR HORNE OFFICE BUILDING UPDATE]

SO WHAT I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON IN A DELAY IN THE COMPLETION OF THE NEW ARTHUR HORNE BUILDING, WE HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. BY THE PANDEMIC IN THAT OUR ELEVATOR MANUFACTURERS SCHINDLER ELEVATOR HAS BEEN SEVERELY IMPACTED IN OUR PRODUCTION SCHEDULE OF OUR ELEVATOR ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR THE NEW ARTHUR HORNE

BUILDING WAS A COMPLETION IN MARCH. >> WE WOULD PLACE THE ORDER FOR THE ELEVATOR IN SEPTEMBER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

INSTALLATION WOULD HAVE BEEN JANUARY CERTIFICATION OF THE ELEVATOR AND LOBBY FINISHES IN FEBRUARY BRINGING A PROJECT COMPLETION IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.

IN SEPTEMBER OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR AIKEN'S CONSTRUCTION WAS NOTIFIED BY SCHINDLER THAT DUE TO COVE THAT OUR SLOT FOR MANUFACTURING IS NOW FEBRUARY BASED ON THIS THE REVISED WORKFLOW WOULD BE MANUFACTURING COMPLETE BY THE END OF APRIL INSTALLATION IN MAY.

CERTIFICATION AND LOBBY FINISHES IN JUNE AND PROJECT COMPLETION IN JULY.

SO WE'VE GONE FROM A MARCH COMPLETION TO A JULY COMPLETION.

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WE GOT SOME NEWS ON SEPTEMBER 25TH THAT THE CONDITION WAS GETTING WORSE, THAT WE WEREN'T EVEN GUARANTEED SLOT AND THAT THEY WERE BOOKED 24/7 NOW THROUGH JULY THAT HAS CHANGED IN THAT SCHINDLER ELEVATOR HAS NOW VISITED OUR SITE WHICH IS WHICH IS POSITIVE.

THEY INSPECTED THE SHAFT. EVERYTHING WENT WELL AND AT LEAST THEY'RE TALKING TO US NOW ABOUT GETTING US A GUARANTEED SLOT FOR MANUFACTURING OF THE ELEVATOR.

WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH OTHER ELEVATOR MANUFACTURERS THE TWO PRIMARY ONES OTIS ELEVATOR AND THYSSEN KRUPP THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SIMILAR DELAYS OF SIMILAR TIMEFRAMES.

SO I WILL WE'LL WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHAT WE FIND OUT AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE NEWS IS POSITIVE IN THAT THEY HAVE VISITED THE SITE AND

THEY'RE AT LEAST TALKING TO US NOW. >> THANK YOU, MISS ATHERTON.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ANDRE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR UPDATE. YOU'RE WELCOME. UP NEXT IS THE BROADER FISHING

[10. BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER LONG-RANGE PLANNING FOR REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT]

>> YEAH. AS YOU SEE THERE IS A THERE'S A LIST OF THE WELL I GUESS LET ME SET THE STAGE FOR ANDREA. THE BASICALLY THE FISHING PIER HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 2015 AND WE'VE EXPENDED SEVERAL THOUSAND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ALREADY TO MAINTAIN HERE.

BUT THERE'S A GRADUATED COST OF MAINTENANCE AS THIS YEAR CONTINUES TO SURVIVE.

SO THAT'S WHAT ANDREW IS GOING TO EXPLAIN AND WHAT WE WOULD ASK FROM COMMITTEE IS TO HELP GUIDE DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD. ALSO ANDREA WILL EXPLAIN.

THERE IS NO SET FUNDING SOURCE FOR ANY OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AS SHE'S DESCRIBE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS SO FAR HAVE BEEN BASED ON A AND H TAX APPLICATIONS WHICH IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE FOR THIS TYPE OF EXPENDITURE. SO I GUESS WITH THAT, ANDREA,

IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE WHERE WE ARE. >> OK.

THANK YOU. I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HISTORY AND STRUCTURE DESCRIPTION MAYBE IS IN ORDER HERE. BRADBURY FISHING PIER AS AS MOST OF YOU KNOW WAS THE FORMER SC DOTY BRIDGE IN 2004. IT CAME TO THE COUNTY AND WE CONVERTED IT TO A FISHING PIER AND THE BRIDGE WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1955.

SO THE FISHING HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS SIXTY FIVE YEARS OLD AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE. THE PIER IS EIGHTEEN HUNDRED FOOT LONG APPROXIMATELY. IT IS A GREAT RECREATIONAL FISHING FACILITY AT ABOUT 7 HUNDRED FOOT FROM LAND GOING OUT TOWARDS THE CHANNEL. THE REASON IS THERE IS A MUD FLAP AT THE FIRST FIVE SIX FEET . WE'RE GOING TO CALL SPAN 1 THE SPAN THAT'S IN THE CHANNEL. AND AS YOU HEAD TOWARDS LAND IT GOES TO SPAN 32.

SO THAT'LL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVE AS GERARD SAID IN 2015 FUNDED THROUGH OR SINCE 2015 EXCUSE ME FUNDED THROUGH ADHD TAX. WE HAVE SPENT SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PROVIDE INSPECTIONS BOTH ABOVE AND BELOW THE WATER REHABILITATION AND PRESERVATION IN TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN. WE DID A MAJOR REHAB PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF 400 SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS NOW THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE 670 SEVEN THAT I JUST MENTIONED. AND WHAT WE DID IS WE REHABBED THE WORST SECTION WHICH IS FROM SPAN 1 TO SPAN 10. OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES SENSE FROM THE CHANNEL GOING IN TOWARDS THE LAND. IT MAKES SENSE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST DETERIORATED SECTION OF PIER IN 2019 AND ORDINANCE WAS ESTABLISHED FOR CONTINUING YEARLY INSPECTIONS FROM 2019 THROUGH 2020. SO FIVE YEARS AT TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN 2019 20. THE INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETE. BRENNA AND PROBABLY BEST IF YOU GO RIGHT TO THE LAST PAGE OF ITEM TEN AND IT'S THE MATRIX.

>> IT'S THE ALTERNATES ANALYSIS MATRIX. I WON'T SPEAK TO THAT QUITE YET BUT THAT'LL BE THE GIST OF EXPLAINING ALL OF THE ALTERNATE SHOW.

AND BASED ON THE INSPECTIONS THAT WERE DONE IN 2019 AND 2020 SPANS 1 THROUGH 10 WHICH WE

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THE OCTOBER THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IS AN ENGINEER OPINION WITH WITH GENERAL REALIZED FEASIBLE APPROACHES FOR OUR BUDGETING AND LONG RANGE PLANNING.

THE SINGLE GOAL THAT WE HAD THEM LOOK AT WAS TO PROVIDE RECREATIONAL FISHING PIER.

THEY CAME UP WITH ALTERNATE A THROUGH F. SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATE COST ANALYSIS MATRIX I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS WE GO THROUGH THAT ALTERNATE A IS TO DO NOTHING EXCEPT INSPECT THE STRUCTURE FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AT TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR. NOW THAT MEANS OUR GOAL OF PROVIDING A SAFE FISHING PIER BUT THE SERVICE LIFE IS FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AT THAT POINT. WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN SPANS 1 THROUGH 10 AND THEN BY YEAR 8 TO 12 WE WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THE ENTIRE FISHING PIER ALTERNATE NUMBER B OR ALTERNATE B COMPLETE THE PRESERVATION PROJECT.

SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT FIRST OF ALL SPAN 1 THROUGH 10 WILL LAST ABOUT 7 YEARS.

WE WOULD CONTINUE WITH THE REHAB SPANS ELEVEN TO 32 WHICH IS THE TWO THIRDS GOING TOWARDS THE LAND THAT REHAB WOULD COST US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS. WE SPENT FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND ON THE FIRST THIRD AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING A MILLION DOLLARS AND THE LAST TWO THIRDS BUT AT THAT POINT WE'D HAVE TO DEMO SPANS 1 TO 10 AT YEAR 7.

THAT DEMOLITION COSTS ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO DEMO JUST ONE THIRD WE WOULD HAVE TO DEMO SPANS ELEVEN TO THIRTY TWO YEARS TWELVE AND TWENTY RESPECTIVELY.

SO WHAT THAT COMES UP AS IS WE'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS IN REHABBING THE TWO THIRDS OF THE PIER THAT WE DIDN'T REHAB BUT WE'RE SPENDING ANOTHER FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DEMO WITHIN THE FACILITY IN YEARS SEVEN TWELVE AND TWENTY AGAIN. NOT A NOT A GREAT OPTION ALTERNATE C IS THE COMBINATION OF DEMOLITION AND REHAB WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD DEMOLISH THE WORST SECTIONS WHICH CHANGES A LITTLE BIT SPANS ONE TO 18.

THAT IS THE MOST DETERIORATED AND GRANTED WE ONLY WORKED ON 1 THROUGH 10 IN THE FIRST YEAR WE

WOULD REHABILITATE SPANS 19 TO 32. >> THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ALTERNATE ALTHOUGH IT DOES HAVE A 20 YEAR ANTICIPATED SERVICE LIFE WE HAVE NOW REDUCED THE LENGTH OF THE FISHING PIER TO SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET WHICH DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF A PIER BEING LEAST 700 FEET TO ALLOW REASONABLY GOOD RECREATIONAL FISHING AT ALL TIDE LEVELS AT SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET. YOU'RE GONNA BE LIMITED TO REASONABLE FISHING AT HIGH OR NEAR HIGH TIDES. OMO ALTERNATE D IS REALLY I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER IT AN ALTERNATE. IT'S JUST THE OPTION

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AS I EXPLAINED EACH THIRD OF A SECTION IS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO DEMOLISH ALTERNATE E KIND OF STANDS ON ITS OWN TWO AND IT'LL HELP US GET TO THE HYBRID WHICH IS ULTIMATE F

ALTERNATE E IS A COMPLETE REBUILD. >> A COMPLETE REBUILD WOULD BE A PIER THAT IS 900 FOOT LONG SO HALF THE LENGTH OF THE EXISTING PIER HOWEVER WE WOULD HAVE AN A LA AN ENLARGED PIER HEAD SO IT WOULD GIVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR FISHING AS IT IS NOW. SO THAT'S ALTERNATE E ALTERNATE F IS A HYBRID AND ALTERNATE F THE WAY THAT GOES IS YEAR 0 THROUGH 7. WE WOULD CONTINUE TO INSPECT THE STRUCTURE ABOVE AND BELOW WATER FOR SEVEN YEARS. WE HAVE TO DO THAT JUST FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE THE STRUCTURE IS SAFE BOTH FOR INDUSTRIAL AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND AMBULANCE IN YEAR ONE WE WOULD DESIGN AND PERMIT THE NEW STRUCTURE WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT ANOTHER NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN YEAR FIVE TO SEVEN WE WOULD BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE ON A LITTLE DIFFERENT LAYOUT THAN THE OLD ONE. THE OLD ONE IS STILL STANDING THAT WOULD BE SIX MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IN YEARS TEN THROUGH TWELVE WE COULD BEGIN DEMOLISH SHAKING THE OLD PIER. SO YOU'VE GOT A 50 YEAR SERVICE LIFE HERE AND OVER THE TWELVE YEARS YOU HAVE SPENT ELEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SIX POINT SEVENTY FIVE FOR THE NEW BUILD FOUR AND A HALF MILLION FOR THE DEMO AND A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CONTINUE WITH INSPECTIONS AND GET A DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF THE NEW FISHING PIER. I'M SORRY IT'S IT'S I'M SORRY IT'S IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING AND WE'VE BEEN KIND OF LIVING THIS FOR THE PAST MONTH OR SO SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO ASK.

>> BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM ON MY BACK.

>> YEAH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JEREMY MICHAEL, BRIAN GO AHEAD, GERALD. YEAH.

>> ANDRE OF THE THE HYBRID EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE, HOW HOW LONG WOULD THAT HOW LONG WOULD THAT PROJECT BE HOW LONG WOULD THAT PEER BE NOT THE PIER ON THE HYBRID WHICH IS ALSO THAT APPLE WOULD STILL BE THE 900 FOOT LONG BY 15 FOOT WIDE WITH AN ENLARGED PURE HEAD IT'D BE THE SAME AS E BUT IT'S IT'S A HYBRID BECAUSE DEMOLISHING THE OLD ONE.

>> OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD. ANDREA, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. LET ME ASK YOU COMPARING ALTERNATIVE E TO ALTERNATIVE S IT SEEMS LIKE THE END RESULT IS THE SAME OUR LR 900 FOOT LONG. I BELIEVE BOTH WILL HAVE A ENLARGED PEER HEAD IF I'M SEEING THAT RIGHT. THE DIFFERENCE IS TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE HE IS QUICKER AND ALSO ABOUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS CHEAPER.

DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? >> WELL IT'S E AND F ARE D E AND F YOU REALLY? WELL YOU PROBABLY CAN'T TAKE ON YOU KNOW BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO CLOSE ROD RIVER FISHING PIER AND THEN AT ANOTHER POINT WE NEED TO DEMOLISH SO THE POINT AT WHICH IT BECOMES UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND AMBULANCES TO GET OUT THERE.

WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PIER AT THE POINT IT BECOMES UNSAFE FOR BOATS OR PEOPLE IN THE BROAD RIVER. THEN WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE PIER.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS ARE TWO DIFFERENT TIMELINES. SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO

TOGETHER. >> SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT F LOOKS LIKE IT'S APPROXIMATELY ELEVEN HALF MILLION BUCKS OUT OUT OF POCKET.

E SIX AND SIX POINT SEVEN FIVE THE OLD BRIDGE STILL STANDS YOUR DEMOLITION COST IS FOUR POINT FIVE TO TEAR DOWN THE OLD ONE THAT'S STILL CHEAPER OR RIGHT.

AND I GUESS F IN DOLLARS. THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT WE'RE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT WE'RE MISSING THAT IS IN F IS NOT IN YOUR E IS THAT WOW WE ARE WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND THE PERMITTING AND WE'RE KEEPING THE FISHING PIER OPEN FROM YEARS ZERO TO SEVEN WE

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>> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE HENDERSON? WELL PERMITTING THE DESIGN PERMITTING IS GONNA TAKE A YEAR AND THAT'S NOT THE DESIGN PART OF IT.

>> IT'S THE PERMITTING PART OF IT WOULD TAKE A YEAR A YEAR TO POSSIBLY 18 19 MONTHS, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH.

SO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY A YEAR. >> OKAY.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS SOME KIND OF A DIRECTION TO GIVE STAFF TO. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A FINAL VOTE. WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE AUTHORIZATION.

WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZING FUNDS EXPENSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT TO GIVE THEM A DIRECTION OF WHAT WE THINK IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER.

IT'S IN MY DISTRICT SO OBVIOUSLY I HAVE AN OPINION. STU, DID YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND JUST JUST TO COMMENT ON IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESTROY THE BRIDGE. WE GOT A USEFUL LIFE.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME TO SOME EXTENT WE'VE GOT TO COMPARE OUR ALTERNATIVES AGAINST THAT EVENTUAL EVENTUALITY. THE SECOND ONE IS IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT OWNING OLD BRIDGES IS A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE THING. ONE OF THE PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE ON TO 78 IS THAT THE DEAL HE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE OR WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE THE FOUR EXISTING BRIDGES TO EITHER HILTON HEAD OR TO TO THE COUNTY.

SO I THINK THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE THROWING AROUND HERE SAYS WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ACCEPTING OLD BRIDGES BECAUSE THEY GET EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO DEMOLISH.

IT'S IT'S ALMOST MIND BOGGLING THAT IT COST THAT MUCH. BUT THE NUMBERS WE JUST PRESENTED ARE NOT OUT OF LINE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD HEARD FROM HILTON HEAD BRIDGES,

RIGHT? >> ABSOLUTELY. IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION, THAT'S FOR DARN SURE. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE THAT PIER AND I SEE PEOPLE THERE EVERY TIME I'VE GONE TO THAT LANDING AND I'M THERE AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH THERE'S ALWAYS A DOZEN PEOPLE ON THAT PIER THAT'S ALWAYS BUSY AND SO YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE NEED TO KEEP THIS IN OUR PORTFOLIO PROVIDES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR CITIZENS. SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE A FAVORABLE LONG TERM SOLUTION THAT WOULD BRING IN THE 50 YEAR WINDOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO I'M YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE HYBRID F. IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST SOLUTION. IT'S EXPENSIVE BUT IT IS REALLY THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND I GET I GET PEOPLE FROM BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BRIDE WHO FISH THERE BECAUSE IF YOU GET A AN OUTGOING TIDE GET E PILINGS FOR THAT FOR THE OTHER BRIDGE AND FISH LIKE CONGREGATE AROUND THERE. GO AHEAD.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT GO AFTER TO GO. GO AHEAD.

DO YEAH. I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN IT.

WELL THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT IT HAD TO BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR AN AMBULANCE TO RUN OUT THERE.

I WONDER IF THAT IS CREATING AN ARTIFICIAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE COULD LIVE WITH WITHOUT HAVING AN AMBULANCE BE ABLE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY OUT THERE AND JUST NOT THEY DON'T NEED AN ANSWER NOW BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU, YORK.

YOU HAD YES, SIR. YES, I APPRECIATE IT. >> I AGREE WITH YOU AS THE CHAIRMAN AND I DO SUPPORT THE IF SCENARIO. IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID THAT I'M I CAN REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. THERE ARE A LOT OF VISITORS FROM THE SURROUNDING COUNTY THAT ALSO SUPPORT USE THAT FACILITY.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT ATTRACTION FOR BEFORE COUNTY AND YOU GOT ALL THE GREAT FISHING THAT IS HAPPENING HERE. I WOULD SUPPORT THE LONG TERM RESULTS.

THANK YOU. SO IS THERE ANY YEAH I'M GONNA SAY THAT MY INCLINATION IS TO

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AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SOURCE OF FUNDING I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO SEND TO MR. PARSIMONY TONIGHT ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STATE FUNDING AND I THINK THAT PARTIALLY SERVICES SHOULD CERTAINLY PLAY A PART IN WHATEVER WE DO WHATEVER ANSWER. BUT AS FAR AS ANY PART OF COUNTY THAT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED, I THINK THAT THE 3 PERCENT MONEY IS PROBABLY OUR BEST APPROACH.

BECAUSE I'D HATE TO SEE ANY KIND OF REQUIREMENT FOR LICENSING OR A PER USE CHARGE.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD EVER PAY FOR ITSELF. I THINK IT REALLY IS A PROBABLY A BAD IDEA. SO I'M GONNA RECOMMEND ITEM F IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD DIRECT ME OR REQUEST THAT I CHANGE THAT TO SOMETHING ELSE? THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL VOTE OF THE OF THE COMMITTEE BUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IS IT. KURT DO YOU THINK FOR FOR A MOTION WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE COMMITTEE AND I'M PROPOSING AT LEAST WITH THE STATED RECOMMENDATION OF MR. GLOVER AS WELL THAT ITEM F R APPROACH F IS THE WAY WE WANT TO GO. THAT'S THE HYBRID APPROPRIATE MOTION.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE MOTION TO COMMERCIAL THE MOTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. >> I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT IS

YOUR MOTION IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION SECOND SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MR. HERBERT SEAN.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION STAFF WOULD BE DIRECTED TO PURSUE ITEM F?

AND BRIAN, IF FUNDING. GO AHEAD. >> JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, ANDREA. I MEAN, ANDREW, IS THIS A CONCRETE LIKE YOU BUT WE SEE NOW OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'D SEE LIKE AS A BOARDWALK THAT YOU SEE IN MYRTLE BEACH OR AMELIA ISLAND OR PLACES LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS SITUATED?

>> PROBABLY THE SUBSTRUCTURE WOULD BE CONCRETE AND THEN THE DECK EITHER CONCRETE OR SOME TYPE OF ARTIFICIAL MATERIAL SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FOR A 50 YEAR LIFESPAN.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE STRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE NOW.

GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT EXPLAINS THE EXPENSE.

THANK YOU. >> THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY OBJECTIONS? DO WE NEED TO HAVE A VOICE VOTE? DO THIS TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T STUDIED THE ALTERNATIVES BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT THE PROPOSAL IS RF AND DO FUNDED OUT OF A LOCAL TAX IS THAT THE PROPOSAL?

>> YES. AS AS AS IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO ADD THIS TO MY LIST TOO AND I'M SENDING TO IT TO JOE TONIGHT SO THAT THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM HE CAN ASK FOR STATE APPROVAL AND I THINK EVEN ABSENT APPROVAL FOR THIS SPECIAL GRANT OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO PURSUE GRANTS THROUGH PARKS AND PLEASE YOUR SERVICE TO THE STATE PARKS AND THESE ARE SERVICES BARMAN AND PARKS DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE EVEN ASK EL COG IF THEY HAVE ANY GRANT THEY CAN IDENTIFY ANY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. WE'LL FIND THE MONEY FOLKS.

THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS GEM THAT BRINGS SO MANY PEOPLE FOR COUNTY MY EXCHANGE CLUB AND I'M WEARING MY EXCHANGE CLUB SHIRT TODAY WE'RE IN CHARGE OF CLEANING THE PIER THAT THE BOAT LANDING AND SO WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I'M TELLING YOU THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THERE ON A GOOD SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

SO ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NO. THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE US BEFORE WE SPEND ANY MONEY ANYWAY. THANKS.

CORRECT. >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY. WHEN THERE IS A DESIGN AND PLANNING AND ALL THOSE THINGS AGAINST JUST FINDING FINDING THE MONEY FOR BEFORE WE START POURING ANY CONCRETE. WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL BE FORWARDED I GUESS IT JUST STAYS

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>> THANK YOU. THIS MATTER HAS BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THE NET RESULT IS THE VERY EMBARKATION AND WE HAVE SAFETY

[11. DAUFUSKIE ISLAND FERRY EMBARKATION DISCUSSION]

>> THANK YOU, DAVE. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. AND FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE STARTING THE FIRST CARRY. JUST REAL QUICK EDITORIAL COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE COMPROMISE THE DETAIL SYSTEM.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I THINK THAT KEEPS US MOVING FORWARD AND CLICK.

WE'LL BE OUT TO COLLECT DATA AND COME BACK TO YOU TO FURTHER REFINE THE SYSTEM.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. >> JAMES, BEFORE YOU START TALKING, CAN I JUST TELL THE CHAIRMAN SOME OF THOSE REMARKS YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE

DETAILED AND LENGTHY COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. >> THEY REALLY GOT REALLY DRILLED DOWN DEEP. SO I THOUGHT YOU MAY WANT TO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM JUST TAKE

A LOOK AT IT AS PART OF THIS. THAT'S NOTHING. >> YEAH.

WE ALSO HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MATTER AS WELL.

OK. I'LL JUST GIVE A VERY BRIEF HIGHLIGHT.

>> THE AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY GIVES THE BACKGROUND THE NARRATIVE.

WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE FUSCA ISLAND FERRY HAS BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THE BUCKINGHAM LANDING SINCE JANUARY 2017. SO IT'S ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

IT IS LOCATED IN A PRESERVATION DISTRICT. IT'S A NONCONFORMING USE WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR OPTIONS FOR CONTINUING THE USE FERRY AND BRAND IF YOU CAN TURN TO THE

OPTION SHEET. >> I THINK IT'S AFTER THE IRS FORM.

THE FIRST OPTION IS TO CONTINUE THE CURRENT OPERATION OF THIS IS THE OPTION THAT'S PREFERRED BY THE FIRST GATLIN RESIDENTS. THE TRUSTEE OR THE BUCKINGHAM LANDING IS A NICE FACILITY THAT MEETS ALL THEIR NEEDS. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. AND AS I SAID, IT IS A NONCONFORMING USE OPTION TO BUILD A TEMPORARY EMBARKATION AT THE S.S. HAGUE LANDING. THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS BUT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL COST WITH THAT AND IT DOES NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE FIRST GOWAN RESIDENTS. I THINK THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON ON THE MEETING THAT WILL SPEAK TO THAT. OPTION THREE I PUT DOWN JUST DIDN'T MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AT THE CURRENT LOCATION TO THE FIRST TOWN RESIDENTS ONLY.

THIS WOULD NOT ALLEVIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS BUT IT WOULD KEEP THE FIRST GOWN RESIDENTS USING THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE FOURTH OPTION.

>> I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICKLY AS TO ISSUE A NEW RFP FOR FERRY SERVICES.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS.

IT EXPIRES JUNE 30TH OF 2021 WITH AND WE'RE AT THE END OF THE POSSIBLE EXTENSION.

SO WE'RE GOING HAVE TO BE ISSUING AN RFP AT SOME POINT EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WHAT THIS OPTION FOR DOES IS BASICALLY ACCELERATE THE SCHEDULE WHICH WOULD DIRECT US TO ISSUE AN RFP IMMEDIATELY COME BACK TO COUNCIL HOPEFULLY EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WITH POSSIBLY A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE. SO BE GLAD TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF NEEDED.

>> BUT WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE TO I BELIEVE THEY'RE BOTH THE FUSCA ISLAND RESIDENTS MAYBE NOT LEE AND YOU'RE THERE, CORRECT? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE TWO MINUTES

AND GIVE US YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS? >> LEANN, YOU'RE ON YOU'RE ON MUTE. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SERIOUS BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE MOST SALIENT.

>> THANK YOU, LEE. AND YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. I DO.

>> I YES, I DO. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ADVANCE SCALE IN COUNCIL AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT FERRY SERVICE FOR SKI KNOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SAFETY SECURITY AND JUST ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE LOCATION BUCKING HIM LANDING THAT THE THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE FACED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS IS THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AND I THINK THE FERRY SERVICE PROVIDER HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT. THEY HAVE LOCATED AN OFF SITE PARKING WITH A WITH A BUS SERVICE TO BRING VISITORS OVER WHICH ALLOWS THE RESIDENTS TO PARK AT BUCKINGHAM LANDING. WE FEEL THAT IT'S A SAFE, SAFE SPOT.

IT'S A SECURE SPOT. IT HAS A PUBLIC RESTROOM. IT HAS AIR CONDITIONING FOR HOT

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THANK YOU. MS. ROBINSON, I THINK YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AS WELL, CORRECT? YES.

>> YES. AND AND THEY ALONE WE TRIED TO GET THE VOLUME TOGETHER SIDE.

>> YES. AS A NATIVE WHO LIVED ON THE FIRST DAY BORN AND RAISED OH MY LIFE BACK AND FORTH AND HAVING THIS FERRY SERVICE REALLY HAS BEEN A MILESTONE FOR US HERE AND AT THE BUCKINGHAM LANDING AS WE MENTIONED, WE DO FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THERE.

I UNDERSTAND THE FOLKS ACROSS THE ROAD DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LIKE SHE SAID THIS BATHROOM, THE SHELTER, THE SAFE, THE CARS AT ONE POINT WHICH THE CAKE HAS . MS. ROBINSON, WE'VE LOST YOU.

MAYBE IT'S ME. IT'S BEEN LOST. OH, I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. NOW IT'S CONVENIENT FOR US IF WE TRIED TO GET MOVED TO THE NEXT AREA WHICH IS THE ISLAND IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ISSUES. WE HAVE ALSO ELDER PEOPLE HERE WHERE THE DOCKING SITUATION IS IS CONVENIENT FOR THEM. IT'S A SHORT RUN AND WE HAVE THE SHELTER WHICH IS ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKES COMING AND GOING SO EASY.

I AS WELL ASKING PLEASE TO LESS CONTINUE TO STAY THERE. I KNOW EVENTUALLY THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO MOVE TO THE OTHER LOCATION BUT WITHOUT THE FACILITIES SAFETY AND A LOT PEOPLE IS NOT SURE YOU FADED OUT YOU FADED OUT AGAIN AND I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS FROM THAT WERE MAILED IN AND I'M GOING TO READ THOSE IN CASE THEY IMPACT OUR OUR THOUGHTS ON THIS MATTER FROM STEVE HILL, THE FIRST GAY ISLAND COUNCIL. I'LL TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT AS BEST I CAN.

I'VE LOST IT. MAN, THAT'S A LONG STATEMENT. STEVE.

IN FACT, IT'S SO BIG IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT. LET'S SEE.

IT'S THE FIRST GUY ON COUNCIL BASICALLY WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT WE STAY WHERE WE ARE NOW UNTIL A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION . THEY WERE PROMISED SOME THINGS THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED. LET'S SEE PROMISE CARS PARK ON COUNTY PROPERTY ON THE FLY RIVER BRIDGE WOULD BE REMOVED. STILL THEY'RE LEAVING THE FERRY AND BIKING IS NOT AN OPTION.

I THINK I'M CONFUSING THE TWO TWO OF THEM HERE BECAUSE I CAN'T QUITE GET THIS.

THEY'RE BOILING. I CAN GET IT. PULL IT UP.

HE BEGGAR. >> YEAH, I GOT IT NOW. I THINK I FIGURED DO IT.

THIS COMMUNIST FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING AGAIN THIS IS STEVE HILL USING OMINOUSLY APPROVED BY THE FIRST GAMBLING COUNCIL THE COUNCIL APPRECIATES COUNTY'S EFFORTS TO

PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE FAIRYLAND. >> SUCH A LANDING WITH SUFFICIENT FACILITIES, PARKING ACCOMMODATION WOULD SERVE AS A FITTING GATEWAY TO THE FSB WHILE PROMOTING ITS ECONOMIC POTENTIAL FOR ALL. BEFORE COUNTY TO ADDRESS THE INTERIM NEEDS AND MOVE THE FERRY LANDING PROGRAM'S CURRENT LOCATION AT BUCKINGHAM LANDING WE'VE LEARNED THE COUNTY'S INTENTION TO BUILD TEMPORARY FERRY EMBARKED ASIAN S.S. HAIG ON PINK. THE ISLAND HAD AN UP TO REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND LIKED TO SHARE IMPORTANT COMMUNITY PRIORITIES. SAFETY OBVIOUSLY SECURITY ACCESS ARE VERY IMPORTANT WHILE KEEPING OUR EYES ON THE FINAL PERMANENT FERRY SOLUTION TO FACE DOWN COUNCIL IS MOST EAGER AND WILLING TO WORK WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS TO PRODUCE A SAFE AND SECURE OPERATION FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT IS AMANDA DUBOS.

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THIS THIS IS ANOTHER THIS IS A VERY LONG ONE. SO LONG IT EXTENDS BEYOND MY SCREEN. PLEASE ABIDE BY YOUR OWN CODE . BASICALLY I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT MOVEMENT OF THE FERRY IS ON SCHEDULE AND COMPLETED BY THE END OF NOVEMBER.

WE WERE TOLD PERMITTING PERMITTING WAS ALREADY IN PROCESS.

NEIGHBORHOOD OF BUCKINGHAM LANDING IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ALL THIS SEE?

>> THEY WOULD AGREE TO FULL TIME RESIDENTS SOLON NOW DOES THE SAME THING.

>> MUST BE RELOCATED. LET'S SEE. AS A 40.

THIS IS FROM MIKE MCDONALD AS A FORTY ONE YEAR RESIDENT. BUTTON HIM LANDING.

I'VE SEEN SO MANY CHANGES MY COMPUTER COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESTAURANT WHICH NOW SERVES AS THE EMBARKATION POINT. NOW WE ARE FACED WITH A GREATER DILEMMA WITH THE CONSTANT ONSLAUGHT OF TOURISTS AND SHUTTLES RACING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE FERRY OPERATION IS A NONCONFORMING SPIRE YOUR OWN ADMISSIONS FOR NOW. OPTION 3 AND MAYBE EVEN OPTION FORKS ARE THE BEST IDEAS TO DATE UNTIL A PERMANENT SOLUTION CAN BE FOUND. PERSONALLY I DO NOT MIND THE FERRY SERVICE BUT THE CONSTANT FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS DANGEROUS, DANGEROUS AND ANNOYING.

THERE ARE AT LEAST TEN SMALL CHILDREN WHO LIVE AT THE END OF BIG OAK STREET ACROSS FROM THE EMBARKATION PARKING LOT. ALSO I AND MANY OTHERS BELIEVE THAT PARKING LOT SHOULD BE SCREENED WITH LANDSCAPING. HOPEFULLY SOMETHING GOOD WILL COME OF THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU FOR OPENING THIS FORUM. PLEASE KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN SO WE CAN WORK ON THIS. LET'S SEE NUMBER 10 RONALD BROOM AS A RESIDENT BUCKINGHAM LEANING ON CONCERNED THAT WE ARE STILL TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE OF RELOCATING THE FERRY SERVICE ATTENDED A MEETING ON FEBRUARY 19TH 2020.

THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS OF THE FORCE GETTING COUNCIL SERVICE SEAN AND MARK LAWSON TO DISCUSS THE FERRY RELOCATION. WE DISCUSS THE ISSUES RELATING TO MOVING THE OPERATION HAIG AND WHAT ACTIONS WOULD BE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THEM WITH THE PLANNED RELOCATION BEING EARLY 2021? I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNTY LEADERSHIP AND STAFF NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE THAT MEETING THAT THE PROCESS WAS UNDER WAY TO MOVE THE OPERATION.

I'VE HEARD COUNTY LEADERSHIP ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS REFERRING TO THIS ISSUE AS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. IT IS CONCERNING THAT AFTER THREE YEARS IT IS STILL AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS COMMITMENT TO THE FORCE GOWN RESIDENTS TRANSPORTATION. WHAT STARTED AS A TEMPORARY SITE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS HAS BECOME A FOR PROFIT MARINA. KNOWING THAT YOUR COUNTY IS IN VIOLATION OF THE BUCKINGHAM FERRY PRESERVATION DISTRICT, I EXPECT THE COUNTY TO MOVE THE OPERATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

AGAIN. >> THAT WAS RONALD BROOM AND THEN FROM FRAN AND BILL BOLEN.

WE DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK AT THE VIRTUAL MEETING. WE WOULD LIKE, HOWEVER, TO HAVE OUR COMMENTS DISTRIBUTED IN SOME WAY TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE FIRST DOWN FERRY CONTINUES TO BE A NUISANCE AND HAZARD TO OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT CONTINUES TO OPERATE AS A MAJOR COMMERCIAL OPERATION VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY'S BUCKINGHAM LANDY LANDING COMMUNITY SERVICE PLAN. HAVING BEEN TOLD THAT THE OPERATION WOULD MOVE TO PAINT THE ISLAND THIS MONTH, WE ARE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE MATTER SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A BRICK WALL. IF THE ISLAND IS REALLY NOT VIABLE, PLEASE CHOOSE AN ALTERNATIVE AND MOVE FORWARD TO GET IT OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. MAINTAINING SAFETY AND PEACE ON THE STREETS WHERE WE LIVE IS BOTH OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOURS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOLKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M SURE THOUGH WE ARE THEIRS AND THEY'LL BE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE FOLKS AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD GO.

AT THIS POINT GO AHEAD. DO YOU KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVEN'T SEEN WHERE THE REMOTE LOT IS OR WHETHER HOW WELL IT'S WORKING. BUT THERE WAS A MENTION THAT THAT PORTION OF IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL AND I GUESS IN MY MIND IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER ALL THE TRAFFIC COULD WORK OUT OF THE REMOTE SO WOULD ONLY BE A BUS GOING OVER AT THE TIME OF THE FERRY RUNS. SO I WISH I WAS MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS BUT IT

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DOES SEEM LIKE IT MIGHT BE AN OPTION. >> THANK YOU.

MICHAEL CATHCART THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. FÉLIX, IF IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US. WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE TWO BUILDINGS AT THE BUCKINGHAM LANDING THAT THE KENNEDY OWNS? WHAT ARE THEY BEING USED FOR RIGHT NOW OR ARE THERE PLANS OUT THERE FOR THEM TO BE USED? WELL, THE PLANS AT THE MOMENT THAT I'M AWARE OF THERE IS A SMALL FRUIT STAND THAT THEY ARE TO BE DEMOLISHED.

YOU TELL ME THAT AT THE BASE OF AT THE ENTRANCE ONTO BUCKINGHAM PLANTATION, YOU KNOW, DOWN AT THE THE TWO ROUND BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THE THE RESTAURANT THERE THERE IS

NOT A TERM USED FOR THOSE BUILDINGS YET. >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CREECH IS EVALUATING AND THE MASTER FACILITY STUDY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS BUT THERE ISN'T AN ARMY LONG TERM YET SAYING THAT BUILDING OR BUILDINGS REALLY CAN'T BE USED BECAUSE THERE IS NOWHERE FOR ANYBODY TO USE IT TO PARK WITH ALL OF THE

OVERFLOW AND REGULAR PARKING IS FAIR. >> NOT LIKE THE AS THE FERRY IN

BERKELEY. >> OK. ALL RIGHT.

>> THANKS. THANKS. MARK, I GOT A QUESTION.

>> THE QUESTION THIS WAY I MAKE A COMMENT THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING THAT I'LL TALK TO WITH THE FUSTY ISLAND FOLKS IS AS THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND A PLACE TO GO THAT WILL BE SAFE THAT THEY CAN HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING AND THAT HAPPEN. SO I GUESS I DO HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE PEOPLE AT BUCKINGHAM LANDING AND I THINK THE FERRY OPERATOR HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. HOWEVER, THERE'S MORE THAT CAN BE DONE TO TRY TO LIMIT SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC AND TO TRY TO KEEP IT TO A MINIMUM.

HOWEVER, I TRULY THINK THAT THE MOVE TEMPORARY TO MOVE TO PINKNEY ISLAND DOES BRING UP THE LOBBY ISSUES THAT THOSE FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHICH ARE THE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES OF A STORM COMING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF JULY WITH 100 DEGREES OUTSIDE OR OR WIND AND RAIN AND JANUARY WITH THERE'S NO COVERING THERE. AND THEN ALSO JUST THE IN AND OUT OF THE ISLAND. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I MEAN WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH WINDOW HARBOR ABOUT PULLING IN AND OUT OF THERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A SPOT THAT PEOPLE GO FASTER AND IT'S IT'S MORE OF A STRAITS BUT THERE. SO I THINK IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF SOMEHOW THE THE THE LIFE AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF A DIVORCE PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RESILIENT. THEY'VE ALWAYS ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES. THEY'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE FOR THEM.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THANKFUL. SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO TRY TO MOVE IN THIS TO GET SOMETHING AND MOVE IT FORWARD. AND AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND BOTH SIDES NEED TO HAVE PATIENCE. BOTH SIDES NEED TO GIVE TO MAKE

THIS WORK UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THAT PERMANENT STRUCTURE. >> THANK YOU.

SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO TALK. CHRIS, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? GO AHEAD. I DO NOW. WELL, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST WE'VE NEVER SEEN THIS . DAVID AND GERARD I WOULD SAY IF NEVER WORKED OVERTIME ON ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND DONE A GREAT JOB AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE COME UP WITH COUNTLESS SOLUTIONS ALONG THE WAY WHICH I AM THANKFUL FOR.

I THINK AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER HERE IS THE FERRY'S BEEN IN BUCKY HAND LANDING FOR FOUR YEARS NOW WHICH I WOULD SAY IS AT THE OUTER LIMITS OF TEMPORARY FOR SHORE NUMBER

ONE. >> NUMBER TWO, HAVING THE FERRY THERE IS NOT ILLEGAL USE OF THAT PROPERTY. I MEAN IT'S VERY CLEARLY SPELLED OUT IN ZONING AND IN THE PRESERVATION DISTRICT DOCUMENTS. IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR.

I THINK WE'VE OPENED OURSELVES UP TO LITIGATION AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE BUT FIRST I'M TIRED OF SEEING THE COUNTY GET SUED. SO THERE'S THAT PIECE.

NOW THE OTHER PIECE IS I THINK THAT THERE ARE ADEQUATE AT LEAST IN MY OPINION MITIGATION FACTORS THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE IF WE MOVE THIS OVER TO C.C. HAIG'S YOU THINK DAVE AND GERARD ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK ON THE BATHROOM SITUATION, MORE WILLING TO WORK ON THE STRUCTURE SITUATION? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD AVOID A WHOLE LOT OF HEADACHE BY MOVING THIS THING TO TWO TEMPORARY FACILITIES. AND ALSO MITIGATE A LOT OF THE LIABILITY THAT WE HAVE. AND I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OPTIONS AS FAR AS HOW WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE. THERE'S CONCERNS IN A CLEVER WAY.

IT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW AS CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER COUNCILMAN.

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I'VE BEEN SUPPORTING THE CCC PROJECT OR THE PLACE FOR THE FERRY TO BE BUT I DON'T SUPPORT IT WITHOUT THE AMENITIES TO HELP IN INCLEMENT WEATHER AND I.

DAVE IS USING THE WORD TEMPORARY FACILITIES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A TEMPORARY FACILITY IS BUT WE CAN'T MOVE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE WITHOUT AT LEAST ADDRESSING THE COMFORT OF A FACILITY. SO I DO SUPPORT THE S.S. HAIG SITE.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ADEQUATE FOR THE FOR THE WELL THE RESIDENTS OF THE FIRST AS WELL AS THE TOURISTS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROMOTING TOURISM SO WE WE WE SHOULD DO ALL WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL.

IN THE MEANTIME, I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER WE CAN SUPPORT THE FERRY SERVICES BY HAVING MORE GIVE THEM MORE SUPPORT IN THE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE FROM ONE PARKING LOT TO THE NEXT. AND IN SUCH A TEMPORARY MEASURE UNTIL WE CAN GET THE FACILITY

AT THE S.S. HAIDER. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAVE. WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE TEMPORARY FACILITIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AT CCH? SURE. IT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL DESIRES THAT THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED WAS A WAS A PAVILION, A COVERED PAVILION.

NO SIDE, NO AIR CONDITIONED, NO CANDIDATE, NO CONDITION SPACE BUT JUST A COVERED PAVILION WITH SEATS AND BENCHES FOR CUSTOMERS TO WAIT IN SIMILAR WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.

THEY THE WAITING AREA NOW AT BUCKINGHAM IS A COVERED AREAS A VERY LARGE CARBON AREA BUT AS A COVERED AREA WITH NO SIGNS. AND WE'D HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF TEMPORARY RESTROOM FACILITY. THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO SEWER AND WATER AT C.C. HAGUE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME TYPE OF PORTABLE SYSTEM AT THE CURRENT LOCATION.

THEY HAVE A AIR CONDITION RESTROOM. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE USING. THE FRONT PART OF THAT BUILDING IS IS THE RESTAURANT FACILITY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE USING. SO WE WE COULD MAKE IT AS COMFORTABLE AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF COST. AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS JUST A TEMPORARY FACILITY. THE LONG TERM SOLUTION. I THINK JERRY CAN TALK ON THIS MORE. I THINK THE LONG TERM SOLUTION IS PROBABLY YEARS AWAY SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, OTHER THINGS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO A FACILITY THAT WILL BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, 2 THREE YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS JUST MORE OF A AS I SAID JUST A

COVERED PAVILION AND SOME TYPE OF PORTABLE RESTROOMS. >> THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE MORE ACCURATE? ALL RIGHT. FOLKS.

DID SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION FOR OPTION 1, 2 OR 3 AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT AND SAY THAT'S THAT ADVICE. AND BRIAN GIVEN BY THE COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD. ARE YOU TAKING NO FOR OFF THE TABLE? WOOPS. DIDN'T SAY IT.

YEP. GET TO MOVE THAT SCREEN DOWN. I REASON I ASK THAT.

OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS PICK IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW WE GET TWO PARTIES BUCKINGHAM AND THE FUNKY WITH EXCELLENT ARGUMENTS TOTALLY AND RESPECT THEM BOTH.

MAYBE TO SOLVE THIS TO GO TO OPTION FOR WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK WOULD BE THE CHANCE

OF SUCCESS TO FINDING A NEW LOCATION USING AN RFP PROCESS? >> WOULD YOU PUT THOSE FOUR

OPTIONS UP ON THE BOARD AGAIN PLEASE? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, CHRIS. WE FOUND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN DAVE AND ASHLEY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR HAVE GONE THROUGH AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH AS FAR AS LOCATIONS TO POTENTIALLY MOVE THE EMBARKATION TO THAT WE'RE NOT CCMA AND IT FEELS LIKE.

AND DAVE CRAIG KAREN BUT IT FEELS LIKE THAT I MEAN THAT GOT US NOWHERE.

THAT GOT US THIS EASY. HEY, YES. WE ACTUALLY THINK IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO PRESENTED I HAVE THE DRAWING IN FRONT OF ME 10 ALTERNATE LOCATIONS AND IT BASICALLY COMES BACK TO C.C. HAGUE IS THE PERMANENT USE WHEN THAT PROPERTY WAS GIVEN AND FISH AND WILDLIFE IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE DEED THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE THE BEST KIND OF FAIRY EMBARKATION. SO I THINK ULTIMATELY LONG TERM THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

HOWEVER, IN THE SHORT TERM AS COUNCILMAN COVERT SAID, IF WE ISSUE AN RFP NOW THERE MAY BE OTHER VENDORS AND A QUICK SEARCH I FOUND THREE, FOUR OR FIVE OTHER VENDORS THAT PROVIDE

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AND IF WE WRITE THAT THE RFP THERE MIGHT BE VENDORS OUT THERE THAT COULD PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ON PROPERTY THAT ISN'T COUNTY PROPERTY SET. THAT'S WHY I PUT THAT DOWN THERE AS AN OPTION. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO IMMEDIATE OPTION FOR TUITION R.P. WITH YOU KNOW WITH WITH YOUR DIRECTION AND JARED'S DIRECTION WE CAN START WORKING ON IT TOMORROW HOPEFULLY HAVE RESPONSES BACK EARLY NEXT YEAR

AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE. >> YOU KNOW, I LIKED THAT IDEA GAVE BUT I'M WORRIED THAT THIS SITUATION JUST KEEPS FESTERING AND YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A REAL PROBLEM AND WE'VE PROMISED WE'D DISCUSSED AND GAVE DIRECTION LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME.

IF IT'S STILL HAVE A RESOLUTION AND YOU KNOW I'M WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD ON AT LEAST THE TEMPORARY SOLUTION OF THE S.S. HAGUE. HAS ANYBODY DISCUSSED WITH OUR CURRENT OPERATOR THE POSSIBILITY OF TWO STOPS ON THIS FERRY RUN? THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE AT THE BUCKINGHAM FERRY FOR A DEFENSE GOWN.

RESIDENTS AND THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO TO THE FUNKY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I GET THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP TO OUR TWO HOURS CONTRACTOR IF HE WERE LIMITED ONLY TO THE FIRST GUY ON RESIDENCE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO FULFILL HIS END OF THE CONTRACT IF WE LIMIT HIS ABILITY TO TRANSPORT OTHER PEOPLE. AND SO YOU KNOW, IF WE WOULD IF WE LIMIT JUST BUGGING HIM VERY TO FACE DOWN RESIDENTS BUT ALLOW HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP AT C.C. HAGUE FOR OTHERS I DON'T KNOW. HAS ANYBODY DISCUSSED ANY OPTION LIKE THAT WITH HIM?

>> YES, I DID. I THINK IT'S A THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ESSENTIALLY SOME STOP ISLAND RESIDENTS WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO USE BUCKINGHAM AND THE TOURISTS DAY USERS WOULD BE AT S.S. HAGUE NUMBER ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ALLEVIATES THE CONCERNS OF THE BUCKINGHAM RESIDENTS. WE CAN CERTAINLY APPROACH THEM.

AND NUMBER TWO, THE FERRY OPERATOR SAID THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT.

I'VE ASKED HIM FOR THAT. I ALSO HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT YET.

THE THIRD FACTOR IS IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE FERRY TRIP TIME BECAUSE I'D BE MAKING AN ADDITIONAL STOP. SO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK. I IF IT'S GOING TO COST ANY MORE. I KNOW IT'S COSTING A LOT TO RIDE WHEN YOU HAD GAIN AT YEAH

. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ART OF CUTE FOR ANOTHER REASON I THINK AT THE TIME WE MOVED THE FERRY OUT TO WHERE IT IS NOW IT WAS RIGHT AFTER MATTHEW IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY BUT THE MARINA AT ON BROAD RIVER HAD BEEN DESTROYED AND WAS IN BANKRUPTCY AND I BELIEVE SOMEBODY OWNS THAT NOW SO THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT EMERGE FROM AN RF RFP. MAYBE I'M SAYING SOME OF THE DATA ALREADY BLOCKED TALKED ABOUT BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF AN RFP LETS EVERYBODY EVER FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.

SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I'M MR. CHAIRMAN TOO FOR OPTION FOR A NEW RFP FOR FERRY

SERVICES AS WRITTEN IN OUR DOCUMENTS. >> IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I'LL SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR..

I MEAN ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS? I KNOW IT DOESN'T SATISFY EVERYBODY. GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT PLAN B IS. IT FEELS LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS PATH BEFORE.

IT FEELS LIKE WE JUST KEEP KICKING THE CAN. WHAT'S WHAT'S PLAN B IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T COME UP WITH ANY GOOD OPTIONS AND THEN HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE? BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORD WE'RE PUSHING LONGTIME HERE. YEAH.

FOR ME PLAYING NUMBER THREES TO AT LEAST TEMPORARILY MOVE THE THING TO C.C. HAGAN BUILT A TEMPORARY FACILITY. WHILE IT'S NOT OPTIMAL FOR THE FIRST GOWN RESIDENTS IT GETS

OUT OF A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT READ OPTION I'M SORRY. >> OPTION TWO I THINK IF I CAN IF I CAN JUMP IN I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH OF THESE CONCURRENTLY. THE PERMITTING PROCESS WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE OF VETTING PROCESS WE'RE RECEIVING COMMENTS SO WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PERMITTING AND APPROVALS FOR THE TEMPORARY.

SO THAT WILL CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT. THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

AND WE RECEIVED THAT DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.

[01:35:02]

SO YES. ARE THERE ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT? I'M TRYING TO MOVE ALONG, JOE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY IN AN HOUR AND A HALF.

SO JOHN, SINCE SINCE MARK LAWSON AND CHRIS HER VERSION ARE THE TWO COUNCILMEN THAT ARE MOST INVOLVED IN THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHICH THEIR PREFERENCES WOULD BE GROWTH

COMING UP FIRST. >> MARK, YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I'M YOUR FIRST.

OH, OF COURSE I CAN. THANKS, MARK. I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE CONCURRENTLY DOING OPTION TWO AND OPTION OR THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE GETTING CONSISTENT UPDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND I MEAN ON MY TOWN, DAVE AND JERRY, ANYTHING THEY ALREADY KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS THING FORWARD SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AS FAST AS QUICK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. THANKS, MARK. I AM ACTUALLY FOR OPTION 1.

HOWEVER I AM ALSO FOR OPTION FOUR FOR US TO BECAUSE THIS COULD TAKE SOME TIME FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER THAT THAT OUR FIELD TAKES SOME TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND YOU'LL HOPEFULLY SOMEONE DOES COME BACK WITH A WITH A GREAT OPTION IN THE RFP.

HOWEVER, I WOULD NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MOVING FOLKS IN A TEMPORARY FACILITY WITH WITH NO CONCRETE NO PERMANENT PLAN AT THE END WHICH CHRIS MENTIONED WE SEEM TO BE DOING THIS FOR A WHILE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN THE SAFETY OF THE FUSTY THE ISLAND FOLKS IS MOST IMPORTANT THAT THAT HAPPENS. AND AGAIN, IF IT COMES BACK TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS INCREASE, YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE THAT SAYS A CELL LEARNS FROM YOU. IS IT WHERE'S THE MONEY GONNA COME FROM? HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS IF WE DO TEMPORARY AND THEN DO A BIGGER PERMANENT ONE? SO THAT'S THE THING RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL MONEY IF WE START TO MOVE WE'RE AT A MINIMUM OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THERE. WE TRIED TO DRESS THE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS OR OR HANDICAPPED PARKING OUR SIDEWALKS ON AIR CONDITIONING.

ALL THOSE THINGS ARE JUST GOING ADD TO THE COST AND IT AGAIN COMES BACK TO WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION MARK.

>> THE OPERATING FROM WRONG BUT WE'VE GOT SOME GRANT MONEY AND THEN SOME TAX MONEY.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE GRANT MONEY FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PERMANENT EMBARKATION AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MUCH THAT IS. JARED, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW I'LL TOP YOUR HEAD BUT IT WAS

EITHER NINETY THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND. >> I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW BUT THERE IS SOME GRANT MONEY THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT BUT IT WAS FOR THE PERMANENT WHICH I THINK WE CAN ALSO USE FOR THE TEMPORARY THINGS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURSUE AN RFP?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I JUST LIKE TO REITERATE TO THESE CHAIRMAN MIKE I'LL BE RIGHT WITH YOU, PAUL. YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO HER BABY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. YOU COULD SEE YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. PAUL SOMERVILLE, YOU'RE UP THERE.

>> THANK YOU. I SIGNAL VERY WEAK. NOT ME YOU'RE NOT BUT I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING WITH TO PICK BECAUSE PUTTING THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD AT OF TIME WITH SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS AND TEMPORARY MAKESHIFT QUARTERS PORTA POTTIES. I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO I'D BE I'D FAVOR FOUR BUT ONE IN FOUR BUT CERTAINLY NOT I WOULDN'T GO FOR 2 4 SO I WAS GONNA COME TO A VOTE VERSUS ONE TO FOUR VERSUS 2 TO 4 I THINK I'D RATHER GET A VOTE ON IT

BECAUSE I CAN'T SUPPORT TO THIS CHAIRMAN. >> I THINK MY MOTION ONLY SAID FOR THAT'S CORRECT AND STAFF IT PREVIOUSLY HAD DIRECTION TO PURSUE OPTION NUMBER TWO TO AT LEAST PENNANT DOWN AND GIVE US CONCRETE INFORMATION ABOUT THE COST AND THE PERMITTING AND IN MOVING FORWARD I BELIEVE SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO RECEIVING MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME OR AT LEAST AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION AT THIS TIME IS THERE ANYBODY WHO OBJECTED TO ITEM

NUMBER FOUR? >> SO THE MOTION IS FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO STAFF IS ARE

THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? >> WITHOUT OBJECTION, STAFF THAT MOTION IS APPROVED.

PLEASE MOVE FORWARD SO AS SAYING IN RFP THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[12. HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT (HXD) – TERMINAL EXPANSION]

UPDATE ON THE HILTON HEAD? AIRPORT TERMINAL EXPANSION? >> THIS IS JOHN.

>> THIS IS REAL QUICK BREAK AWAY WHERE WE ARE OVER. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS AGAIN AND I WANT TO SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SEE I PUT A FEW FLYERS TOGETHER JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW WITH THE TERMINAL I CAN SEE

[01:40:08]

THE POWERPOINT THAT'S UP NOW. >> YOU CAN STILL SEE. YEP.

OKAY, GREAT. TO STEP THROUGH THIS. FIRST OF ALL, SEE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> SO A FEW DATA POINTS JUST TO LOOK DESERVE.

REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. BACK IN 2017 WE STARTED OUR PROJECTS.

WE SAW 54000 PASSENGERS THROUGH THE AIRPORT A YEAR LATER. WE HAD SIX MONTHS PURELY TURBOPROP SERVICE AND SIX MONTHS OF JET SERVICE. WE'RE STILL ONE AIRLINE, THREE FLIGHTS A DAY. WE WENT UP TO SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND NINETY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY NINETEEN. WE ADDED THOSE ADDITIONAL FLIGHTS AND ADDITIONAL AIRLINES WENT FROM ONE AIRLINE TO THREE AIRLINES AN HOUR PASSES ONE UP TO OVER TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY

THREE THOUSAND ALL THAT TIME. >> WE'RE WORKING ON THE EXACT SAME FACILITY AS FAR AS THE BILLING GOES AT THIS TERMINAL. SO WE DEFINITELY NEED UPGRADE EXPAND THAT TERMINAL.

IN 2020 WE ADDED MORE CITIES. NOW NOT EVERY ONE OF THOSE RECEIVED ALL THEIR FLIGHTS AND SOME OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THE COBURN WAS ALL BECAUSE OF COBY AND WE DON'T HAVE OUR FINAL NUMBERS YET. OBVIOUSLY THIS YEAR. BUT THINGS ARE DEFINITELY ON THE UPSWING. YOU KNOW, EVEN GIVEN KIND OF A 19 AND THEN THIS IS IMPORTANT TO YOU BECAUSE WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT AND JUST GIVEN A TIP OF THE HAT TO WHAT COUNCILMAN RON BROUGHT UP EARLIER WITH THE PRIORITY FUNDING INITIATIVES AND THE LIST THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER TO SPEAK ABOUT WITH SENATOR DAVIS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PROJECTS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS THIS ONE IS HUGE. YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH FROM 2007 TO 2019 AN ECONOMIC IMPACT THEN OF COURSE OUR FOLKS UP AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND COLUMBIA TO SEE THAT THAT ITEM MATTER THIS SOUTH CAROLINA TAX REVENUE THEY LIKE TO SEE RIBAUT WENT FROM SIX POINT EIGHT MILLION OVER 17 MILLION. SO THAT THAT'S A RECURRING SO WHEN WE SAW THE GROWTH REALLY SEVERAL YEARS WE STARTED WORKING ON THE ENTRANCE PROPERTY YOU KIND OF FURTHER TO

THE MASS. >> A QUICK QUESTION WHEN YOU SAY EMPLOYMENT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT NUMBER THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER ADDING THAT'S INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYMENT. THEREFORE THE YEAR OF THAT IS EMPLOYMENT INFLUENCED BY THE

AIRPORT. >> SO WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THE CONTRACT ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S PRIMARY SECONDARY AND TERTIARY JOBS THAT ARE CREATED .

SO I'M NOT WRITING THREE FITNESS REPORTS EVERY WEEK. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OK.

THIS IS WHAT THE NEW ENTRANTS LOOKS LIKE. WE JUST FINISHED THIS.

WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THIS. YOU SAW THE OLD ONE AND NOW YOU'VE SEEN THE NEW ONE.

YOU SHOULD BE TAKING A GIANT LEAP IN THE SECOND PICTURE THERE SHOWS THE SCULPTURE PART OF THAT INTEREST WHICH WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF AND PARTNERED WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THEY'RE THERE COUNCIL BE THE ARTS EXHIBITION THAT HAPPENS ON THE ISLAND.

SO A GREAT ADDITION. THEY'RE GREAT IMPROVEMENT. >> AND SO A LITTLE BIT FARTHER INTO THE CAMPUS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. WE DESIGN THE TERMINAL, THE NEW BUILDING WILL HAVE AN EXPANSION OF WHAT'S THERE AND RENOVATION OR EXPANSION FROM WHAT THERE AND A RENOVATION OF WHAT IS THERE. AND THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE 60 PERCENT OF DESIGN WHICH IS WHERE THE PROJECT IS NOW TO SEE A FULL LANE OF DROP OFF FULLY COVERED THERE IS A LOOK FROM THE SKY WITH THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME MATERIAL VIEWS TO LOOK AT. THIS WOULD BE THE NEW BOARDING GATE AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT YOU A NICE TOURIST DESTINATION AIRPORT AND THEN THIS IS A LOOK DOWN TOWARDS WHERE BAGGAGE CLAIM WOULD BE.

WE GOT NEW BAGGAGE BELT DEVICE . AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RENTAL CAR FACILITIES DOWN HERE AS WELL. A LOT MORE ROOM, A LOT MORE SPACE AND CERTAINLY EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

THAT'S A SNEAK WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE MILESTONES WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING THE METALS NOW ARE THE ARCHITECT TEAM IS MAKING US MOST OF THE TIME HELPING THAT ISLAND AND THEN IN FEBRUARY TOWARD THE END OF FEBRUARY THEY'LL HAVE A 90 PERCENT DESIGN COMPLETE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IN

MARCH. >> SO WE'LL BEGIN THE BID PROCESS THE PROCESS AT THAT POINT PROBABLY 90 TO 120 DAYS DEPENDING ON WHERE HOW THAT ALL PLAYS OUT, WHAT IT IS IT IS

[01:45:02]

>> WE DO HAVE FAA FUNDING WHICH COUNCILMAN ROBIN ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE PHASED FUNDING. WE'VE RECEIVED 10 MILLION SO FAR AND THEN THE OTHER 10 MILLION TO BE PHASED AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND THEN BETWEEN THE LOCAL AIRPORT CONTRIBUTION TO THE PROJECT AND SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS, THERE IS ANOTHER TWO POINT TWO MILLION. SO IF YOU'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE MATH WITH ME, WE'RE LOOKING AT FIFTEEN POINT THREE MILLION THAT IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE TERMINAL. AS I SHOWED YOU HERE. SO THAT GOES TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT LIST THERE. COUNCILMAN RODMAN IS WORKING ON WITH CHAIRMAN PARSIMONY TO SPEAK WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN GET TOGETHER WITH SENATOR DAVIS ON . SO THAT COMPLETES MY BRIEFING HERE AND I'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? GO AHEAD. YEAH, JUST JUST REAL QUICK.

>> I KNOW WE'RE TIGHT ON TIME. YOU KNOW, WITH THE WITH THE VIRUS PIECE, THIS HAS DRIVEN AN ACCELERATION OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE AND WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE.

LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE NOT LARGE BUT SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF PICKING UP THEIR BUSINESSES AND MOVING HERE AND ALL THE AIRPORT I THINK PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THAT. I THINK IT'S ALSO ENDED UP DRIVING THE HIGH END OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET WHICH COMES BACK TO ALL OF US IN IN HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES.

SO IT'S A WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND. >> YEAH, IT SEEMS IT SEEMS YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT STATEMENT AND YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY TO DO THAT FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW FOR MOVE MOVE TO HELP IT HAD MOVED TO BEAUFORT, MOVED TO BLUFFTON AND TAKE IT TAKE A PLANE UP TO NEW YORK CITY ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RAMBLED. I APPRECIATE YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE PROCESS WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE CAN EXPECT? THANK YOU AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

[13. BLUFFTON PARKWAY 5B UPDATE]

THANKS. >> MOVING ON TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY 5 B UPDATE JARRETT.

YES, THERE IS SOME OUTRAGE FROM THIS. QUICK UPDATE.

SO IN SEPTEMBER THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BLUFFTON BEE AND IN PARTICULAR THE INTERSECTION REALIGNMENT WEST OF BLACKWATER PARKWAY. SO STAFF IS WORKING TO PUT OUT AN E FOR THIS DESIGN WORK.

JUST AN UPDATE ABOUT WHAT'S INVOLVED IS ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE A MINOR CHANGE TO A MINOR CHANGE TO JUST REALIGN THE INTERSTATE AND IT DOES IMPACT THE OTHER INTERSECT EXISTING INTERSECTIONS ALONG. WALTER AND ALSO PROVIDES SOME COMPONENTS WHERE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR ACCESS TO DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. SO TWO THOUSAND EIGHT ARE TWO THOUSAND SIX IS WHEN THIS PRACTICE SHOWED UP TWO THOUSAND EIGHT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED WE SAID IS THAT FOR FEDERAL FUNDING WHICH IS GREAT.

AND 70 PERCENT PLANTS WERE COMPLETED AT THAT TIME IT WAS SHELVED AND THEN LATER IN 2013 IT WAS REINTRODUCED TO REALIGN THE INTERSECTION AND IN A DIFFERENT GEOMETRY FROM WHAT IT WAS. SO THAT POINT THE PLANS WERE UPDATED AND WE HAD ANOTHER SET OF 70 PERCENT PLANS COMPLETED. BUT AT THAT TIME THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS NOT UPDATED. SO AS WE'RE STRUCTURE IN THIS ARE A FEW THERE IS A COMPONENT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IN THERE TO UPDATE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR MODIFY IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ENGINEERING WISE AS WELL AS SINCE IT TAKES THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS ALONG WALTER AMBUSHED AND PARKWAY. WHAT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED? WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON THE OVERALL BLUFFTON PARKWAY AS WELL AS ABOVE WALTER PARKWAY AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC CORRIDOR STUDY.

BUT DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS OR DO WE SEPARATE SEPARATE THOSE TWO FUNCTIONS? SO LONG STORY SHORT TO SAY WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE AN R AND PUT OUT TO DATE IN DECEMBER BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. THANK YOU, MR. COVID .

YOU UP? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE NEED

[01:50:04]

THIS IS A VERY, VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT AND WHEN YOU USE THE WORD FIVE B UPDATE THAT BEGINS TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY UPSET. I BELIEVE THAT THE PRIMARY FOCUS AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING JARED IS HARD TO HEAR YOU.

THE PRIMARY FOCUS I BELIEVE SHOULD BE ON MR. RODMAN AND MYSELF.

I HAVE TALKED WITH A LAND OWNER ABOUT RELOCATION OF THE PARK OF BOOK WITH THE PARKWAY TEA IF YOU WILL BLUFFTON PARKWAY BUCHWALD BOOK WALTER TO ACCOMMODATE BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL FOR THEIR NEW FACILITY, THEIR HEALING PAD AND MORE PARKING THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE EXTENT REALLY OF THIS CONVERSATION. THE FULL FIVE B RELOCATION WHICH GOES FOR I BELIEVE IT'S TWO MILES SOMETHING I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? JARED? >> IT IS.

IT IS. AND THE FACT THAT YES, THAT BORDER PAKISTAN IS THE INTERSECTION ITSELF SQUARELY WHERE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT BECAUSE IT LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE SEGMENT TWO AND A HALF MILES SEGMENT. IF WE CALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT UPDATE AS PART OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, THEN AT A LATER DATE IT IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY POTENTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING WHICH IS NOT IMPORTANT FOR THIS SEGMENT.

BUT IT ALSO IF WE DON'T DO IT IT PUTS THE FUTURE SEGMENT WHATEVER IT COULD OR COULD BE OF THAT IN JEOPARDY OR OTHER FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WITH.

AS YOU MENTIONED TRYING TO THREAD THE NEEDLE, RIGHT. >> OK.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT WE NEED TO TREAD VERY LIGHTLY BECAUSE OF PAST SITUATIONS. THOSE THAT PHRASING IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ALONG WITH THE NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTOR. THAT'S PART OF THAT WHOLE SCHEME REALLY IN MY OPINION NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE FROM THIS THIS INTERSECTION WHICH NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT.

I THINK IT'S FIFTEEN HUNDRED FEET GIVE OR TAKE AS COMPLETELY SEPARATE OBJECT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST WANT TO AS I LEAVE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WIDELY KNOWN THAT THERE ARE TWO SITUATIONS THERE.

ONE IS PLAUSIBLE BY THE COMMUNITY. ONE IS NOT YET PALATABLE YET AND THEY ARE RIGHT HERE ON AGENDAS AND FUTURE AGENDAS SAFETY BRIEFING.

>> MIKE, DO I HOLD YOUR HAND UP ? I'VE GOT YOU, PAUL.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I MAY NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT BUT I I VIEW THIS TO TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS. AND WE OUGHT TO PUT FIVE B IN THE IN THE BACKGROUND AND JUST FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION. AGAIN, I MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL BUT THE HISTORY OF THIS WAS THAT IT WAS IN A REFERENDUM THE WHOLE FIVE B WE RAN OUT OF MONEY AND IT WAS THE LAST PRIORITY.

SO IT WAS SET ASIDE. IT IS CONTROVERSIAL. MY CASE IS TALKED ABOUT THEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CAME FORWARD AND PAID ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO A REALIGNMENT THAT INCLUDED WHAT WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT AT THE INTERSECTION.

AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO JUST FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION TO ME MAKES SENSE.

AND I GUESS THE REAL QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DEVELOP IT INCLUDING THE HOSPITAL, ARE THEY GOOD TO GO OR DO WE HAVE DO THEY HAVE TO HOLD UP AT SOME POINT IN TIME UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING BESIDES THE QUESTION AND MAYBE A QUESTION THE MEDIA TALKING WITH THE HOSPITAL WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE HOSPITAL TO THEIR STATUS AND THEIR PLANNED PROGRESSION BUT WE CERTAINLY AIM TO HAVE THAT COORDINATION THE GOING BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, THE LARGER PROPERTY AT LARGE PRIVATELY WHERE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT EVER MOVES FORWARD OR NOT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LARGE FUNDING SOURCE TO MAKE THAT PROBLEM JUST AS WE'RE TALKING OUT OF HILTON HEAD AIRPORT AND SAN DIEGO WHICH IS TYPICALLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN LOCAL FUNDS. SO I'M I'M VERY HESITANT MOVING FORWARD IN A RAPID MANNER TO

[01:55:02]

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE FIVE BE USING THE TERM FIVE B AS IS IS RAY. RAY IS WAVING A RED FLAG IN FRONT OF THE BULLET. I THINK EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN ON COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT WAS A VERY INFLAMMATORY TERM AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FIVE B HERE.

ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AN INTERSECTION. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF THREE MILLION DOLLAR INTERSECTION, MY QUESTION IS WHO BENEFITS FROM WHY ARE WE DOING WHO'S THE BENEFICIARY? BECAUSE BUILDING THIS WHAT WAS FIVE B IS NOT IN THE CARDS AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT'S IT WAS 30 MILLION DOLLARS 10 YEARS AGO.

GOD KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD COST TODAY, NOT WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THIS INTERSECTION CHANGE FOR TWO AND A HALF TO THREE MILLION . BECAUSE IF YOU THINK IT'S BEAUFORT HOSPITAL I THINK YOU BETTER THINK AGAIN. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR RUSSELL BAXLEY BUT AS I RECALL HE SAID HE SAID THEY DON'T NEED THAT. SO FOR BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL SO AGAIN I CAN'T I CAN'T QUOTE HIM BECAUSE I'M NOT HIM BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. BUT WHO'S WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS INTERSECTION? I DON'T GET THAT. THAT'S A REAL GOOD QUESTION, PAUL, MAYBE MICHAEL COVERED HAS

AN ANSWER. >> YEAH, I DO. I DID SPEAK TO MR. BAXLEY AND THE ANSWER WAS THE HOSPITAL BENEFITS BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOSPITAL AND SPECIFICALLY THE PAD AT THIS. I THINK HE RETURNED REFER TO IT AS A MICRO A MICRO HOSPITAL. IT SOUNDS BIGGER THAN A MICRO HOSPITAL BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE HELICOPTER ACCESS, EGRESS AND INGRESS THAT THAT CAME OUT OF HIS CONVERSATION WITH HIM

DIRECTLY. >> THANK YOU. STU, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO

ADD TO THAT? >> I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THE TWO FIVE THE WAY ON THE HORIZON. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN HOLD AN UP OR DOWN ON THIS INTERSECTION BY THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING FIVE B THAT MAY OR MAY NEVER HAPPEN AND COST A LOT OF MONEY.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET ON WITH THE INTERSECTION AS QUICK AS WE CAN.

ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. >> THANKS. I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I'M SENSITIVE TO JARED. IT'S CONCERN THAT WE LOSE ALL OPPORTUNITY FOR FEDERAL FUNDING IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IN THIS PROJECT AN UPDATE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO SAY IT? JARED? OK. I KNOW I KNOW THAT IN THAT AND IN HORIZON OF SAY 10 TO 15 YEARS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE STOMACH TO DO FIVE B BUT IN 15 YEARS THAT MIGHT BECOME SOMETHING ON THE HORIZON FOR US TO LOSE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR A PROJECT THAT THAT MIGHT BENEFIT US IN 15 20 YEARS. I THINK WE NEED TO PRESERVE OUR OUR CARDS AND GO AHEAD AND REDO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AS NECESSARY. ANY MOMENT CHAIRMAN WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT TEAM THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2008. A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN WAS PRIOR SINCE THAT THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

SO WHEN WE RELOCATE THE SIGNAL THERE IS AN IMPACT TO PROPERTIES THAT WEREN'T THERE DURING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS. SO I HAVE ACCESS TO THEM.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR WHETHER WE DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR NOT. BUT IT'S PART OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

THANK YOU. AND ONE MORE ONE, STEPHEN PAUL CONCERNING WHO BENEFITS?

>> I BELIEVE SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT THIS IS THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE SPECIFIC REQUEST OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. AM I CORRECT THERE.

THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT. IT'S THE OVERALL PLAN OF WHAT TUCSON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL WANTS TO DO TO ACCOUNT FOR THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY.

THIS KIND OF HOSPITAL IS BEING SET UP FOR SPECIFICITY. IT'S NOT LONG TERM CARE.

>> IT IS SHORT TERM CARE AND THAT'S THE NEW WAVE OF THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY AND THAT'S WHY THEY THEY NEED TO DO THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OR WANT TO DO THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA

. >> THANK YOU. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC ACTION REQUIRED AT THIS TIME OF OUR COMMITTEE AND SO THIS WAS AN UPDATE AND I APPRECIATE THE INPUT. JARED, AS THE SITUATION EVOLVES AND YOU NEED SPECIFIC DIRECTION ,PLEASE LET US KNOW. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE CURRENTLY .

[02:00:01]

GO AHEAD, STU. >> YEAH. GOOD.

MR. DE RIBAUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF WE COULD GET SOME KIND OF A WRITTEN ASSESSMENT ABOUT WHY WE CAN'T BREAK THIS INTO TWO PROJECTS. ONE SETTING FIVE BE AS FAR AWAY AS WE WANT TO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES.

AND SECONDLY, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO JUST GET ON WITH THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE PEOPLE SUPPORTED AND IN FACT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON I BELIEVE MAY ASSAULT SOCCER 7 SUPPORTING

LEAVERS LETTER SOMETIMES. SOME MONTHS BACK. >> CORRECT.

CORRECT. THANK YOU, CHRIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> I GOT A REALLY DUMB QUESTION BUT A REALLY CURIOUS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED BEFORE MEMORIAL FACILITY AND THE NEW CANCER FACILITY? AS FAR AS THE SERVICES THAT

THEY OFFER OR ARE GOING TO OFFER, I CAN ANSWER THAT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN CAN LEARN NEW PLACE BUCK. WALTER IS AN ONCOLOGIST. IT DOES OTHER STUFF BUT IT IS MAINLY IN ONCOLOGY CENTER. THEY ARE ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN THIS AREA THAT HAS A LINEAR ACCELERATOR I GUESS IN CANCER TREATMENT THAT IS THE ONE OF THE BIG TIME WAYS OF TREATING IT. BUT THAT'S AN ONCOLOGY CENTER WHEREAS BEFORE MEMORIAL THIS IS GONNA BE AS MR. CHAIRMAN SAID, THIS IS A SHORT TERM SPECIFICALLY EMERGENCY AND TRAUMA. NO LONG TERM CARE SHORT TERM. SAME DAY THAT KIND OF STUFF.

>> GOT IT. COOL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE LUFKIN PARKWAY? INTERSECTION? WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THE FIVE B FIVE B DESIGNATED FROM IT.

IN FURTHER COMMUNICATION ON THIS MATTER. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. SURE. AND ITEM 14 IS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE JUST TO ADD THE CONVERSATION SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SKIP PASS ITEM

[15. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM GRANER AND KIM CORLEY TO THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING BOARD.]

SO THE SOLID WASTE IN RECYCLING BOARD. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO

APPROVE WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> THANKS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THANKS MR. GLOVER. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OBJECTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS MATTER WILL BE APPROVED.

ANY OBJECTION? THE MOTION IS APPROVED. I AM MOVING NOW TO

[16. CONSIDERATION OF THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JOHN GLOVER TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]

>> THANK YOU MR. GLOVER. >> THEIR SECOND CIRCUS ACT. I SECOND MR. COBURN GOT YOU

FIRST. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THIS MATTER BEHIND

THEM WITHOUT YOU KNOWING THIS? >> THIS IS THIS IS A COMMENT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE PAST WE USED TO GET ON WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL RENEWAL OF REAPPOINTMENT, OK.

A WE SHOULD GET THE HISTORY OF ATTENDANCE. COULD WE COULD WE JUST MAKE THEIR ATTACHMENT A PART OF THIS AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THE REST OF OUR, YOU KNOW, REAL

POOR REAPPOINTMENT? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, MR. GLOVER.

I APPRECIATE HAVING APPRECIATE YOU BRING IT THAT I'VE DROPPED THE BALL AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL GET DONE IN THE FUTURE. I APPRECIATE IT. IN THE MEANTIME, THIS MATTER WILL BE HANDLED WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MR. GLOVER WITHOUT OBJECTIONS MATTER IS APPROVED.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER MATTERS TO BRING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[17. CITIZEN COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED IN WRITING AT PO DRAWER 1228, BEAUFORT SC 29901 OR BY WAY OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FORM AVAILABLE ONLINE AT WWW.BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV.]

WAIT A MINUTE. THERE WAS ONE. THE LAST ONE WAS FROM.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND FROM MR. DARROW ALDRIDGE. HE SAID DUMP THE DECALS AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE 15 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. BY OUR RULES ARE THERE ANY OTHER MATTERS TO BRING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.